The extensive power testing was superb. Wish the AVR magazines would still do these, reviews are useless without them. Glad to see the 70% promise across 5 (really 7) channels holds true.
Just ordered one to replace my old flagship Denon 5700 THX ultra certified receiver.i think im gonna cry letting this one go but glad the 8015 got such grand bench test results from Gene. Thanks for making the decision easier for me. Keep up the great work, I appreciate it
I know it may sound redundant, but I would really appreciate an in depth look at the SR7015. I say this because I feel that the 7015 sits in a more friendly price range and also better represents the rest of the marantz line. The 8015 looks amazing but it’s the only one with a toroidal and all those nice features. The other three models seem more similar to each other in that sense. And to see a look into one of them may represent the rest of the line a little better then the flagship. Great video though! I appreciate all the work.
I'm with you...that's the one I'm looking at, as I'm running a power amp on five of my nine channels (5.2.4.) and don't need the receivers extra wattage (or channels). I would prefer the Marantz to the Denon 6700 (purely for aesthetics) but we shall see.
I wanted to consider the SR7015 as well, but I feel like I’m either going to go SR6015 or full hog with the SR8015. I prefer the SR7015 over the SR6015 in every way, but with the new preamp made and me being able to use amplifiers altogether, I feel like the SR7015 is more waste than good.
Gene, Thanks for all of the efforts you put into giving us real testing info and the DIY help. But, it sure would helpful to get your testing and opinions on gear that the majority of can actually buy. Sure a $3000 Marantz is the goal, but a $500 - $700 receiver-amp is more realistic. I'm sure a lot of us would help fund and be glued to your set-up, testing and review of a
Kevin, with respect, I have 3 considerations. #1 - Gene's job and value add is reviewing new products and tech for those interested in what's now available. He's sincere, thorough, and good at it. #2 - Yes, the SR8015 is ~$3k MSRP first month of launch. In reality, this receiver will be available for much less in a year, and a gently used one even less so in 2+ yrs and beyond. This excellent review will be alive for all to see beyond the product launch window. #3 - At $3k it's not -that- expensive for a product with a lifespan of 5-7 years or more. $500 a year ain't bad for the value. Incomes rise for many where $3k isn't a huge spend compared to hobbies like classic cars, or boats, and so forth. I mean, how much will you spend on smart phones and data plans in 6 years? My retirement funds fluctuate more than 3k in an afternoon. Ten years ago when my kids were younger I would have scoffed at spending $3k for audio. Today, I'm thinking it would make a wonderful Xmas present.
@@jaygrady9080 Thanks for the feedback and being nice. I also agree with your thoughts. I'm so very happy for all of the people who have been smart enough to work hard, plan ahead and develop an income stream that supports all of their desires. It's just to bad for the rest of us that don't have the smarts or guts to get tons money from others for our bank account. I work seven days a week 10 - 16 hours each day repairing industrial engines, welding machines, generators and other equipment and I am still F'ing broke. I must be broke because everyone says I am too nice and let my efforts, far too often, go for zero dollars. So, it's my own fault for not being able to easily afford $3000 on such nice new products. Honestly, I am grateful for the Denon 5.1 receiver, the 50 watt Audio Source sub woofer and the 70" Sharp TV I rescued from the recycle center over the past several years. Maybe someday some rich guy will toss out a gem of a system that I can bring back from the jaws of death as I will surely be flat broke then to. Thanks again for your insight - time to put my grease stained hands back work.
@@welderfixer You seem to be a very humble person. If you’re interested I have an Onkyo TX-RZ920 I can give you for free if you’re in the states. It’s 3 years old but runs great. Can process 11.2 channels. Plays 9 speakers with built in amp and 2 more with an external amp. Supports 4K, Dolby atmos, and THX certified. PM me if interested.
I had the SR 7015 set up a couple of days ago and am very pleased with it. I'm using it as a preamp that replaced a Rotel that was 35 years old. I went with the Marantz because it has the latest technology and am using the preamp function to go with my Rotel amps (also 35 years old and speaks to the quality of them). I'm on a fixed income now so trying to save money if I have to use the receiver mode.. When the rotel amps die I will use the full receiver function. A couple of suggestions. 1. Have a professional hook it up for you. Today's stuff is a lot more complex and there are no videos or good setup guides from Marantz. 2. I wish the remote was RF. Gene helped in making my decision to go with the Marantz.
I think the price is fair for what you get.. I'm not a Marantz fan but this looks like a very nice AVR. Great job on the review very detail and concise I was able to understand what was being described. You make it understandable which is very very good. Like a teacher.
After your SR-8012 review you had recommended the SR-7012 as a very good bargain versus performance. I bought it new on sale for $1,000. I am using 8 of the 9 amps for surrounds and Atmos with monoblocks for the front 3. The AVR has served me well. I believe the SR-8015 will be my next upgrade as it is feature rich over my current one. Thanks for confirming the specs are equal or better than advertised.
I am coming off a 7010 and it is a good difference. It rests and runs much cooler, the programming feature rocks, and of course I get to run a 7.2.4 now.
Three years later, the Cinema 30 is out and I was able to buy a new Marantz SR8015 for less than $2K! Love it. I enjoyed watching your analysis of the 8015. It does sound amazing!
@@MasterofPlay7The SR8015 is warm and sweet when listening to music but dynamically strong and sharp when watching a movie. I have a 5.1.4 and use an EMOTIVA XPA-3 Gen 3 to drive my front stage Martin Logan Motion 60XTi/50XTi. Really happy with my setup. Love the Marantz.
@@MasterofPlay7why would I want to spend $4,500? I have no reason to change. I don’t want Dirac and I only use one sub. No need for 4 sub outs. I’m not jumping in to that rabbit hole! My system sounds amazing, particularly after using Audyssey One.
Thank you Gene, as usual you have given a treasure trove of info. I appreciate the straight In depth analytical view points placed on your research & testing of equipment you review.....👍👍👍👏👏👏 Keep up the great work!
Thanks for all your reviews Gene, so much to learn. Just purchased the SR-8015 today and have some time over the next few days to set it up and listen. Hope its a step-up from the SR-7012 that's been in the rack for the last few years and have really enjoyed
Absolutely great video Gene and respect to Marantz for edging out an improvement. Now we would love to see a test with 4 Vrms with one of Marantz's Pre amp proccessors to see how the XLR out performs. Unless, I have missed it in your previous tests but more so for future products.
I hear you. Marantz make some truly beautiful gear including the SR-8015. I still haven’t found the justification to invest in upgrading to Atmos though. My basement ceiling isn’t high enough nor my listening room big enough for one thing. My Sony STR-DA5800ES is serving me well thank you.
How about being able to mix and match video and audio to the same source like watching a football game while listening to play by play from the local radio station instead of the t.v. broadcasters? How about just shooting sound like the radio to the second video source?
Can you tell me what speakers you plan to get with the 8015? I'm trying to build a home theatre....(framing up 2x4 walls currently). I want to do 4 overhead Atmos speakers 1 sub, and high quality 3 way center speaker.... thats all I know so far. What should I add to the 8015? I'm going to need a cabinet (with cooling fans). Can you recommend a good bluray/DVD player? Anything else you'd recommend for my cabinet? Whats all this talk about pre-amps?
@@jcro8926 Hello. I already had speakers from my previous system. Fronts: Paradigm Studio 100 v5 Center: Paradigm Prestige 55C Surround: Yamaha NS-777 Rear Surround: Yamaha NS-777 Top Atmos: x4 SVS Elevation Prime Sub: x2 15” Electro-Voice DL15W Sub power: Mitsubishi DA-15DC Bluray: Panasonic DB820 TV: LG C9 77” I feel I have some real nice speakers. But I’m sure there are other people with much nicer setups than me. I have around 15K in speakers I’m using from my last receiver.
That’s not entirely true. A lot of 4,000 + processors have measured very poorly for their price tag. This is a great example of it being worth its price.
How does the Denon X6700H compare since these two avr's are identical on paper. There is a $600 difference in price; a solid comparison video would be great! Thank you for all your work Gene and crew!!!
I compared the SR8012 to the X6500 in my 8012 review as follows: Marantz SR8012 Advantages over the Denon AVR-X6500H: HDAM SA2 current feedback topology between preamp and power amp 22,000uF, 81V capacitors x 2 vs 15,000uF, 73V capacitors (X-6500H) Torodial 835VA transformer vs 750VA E-Core (X-6500H) Separated symmetric construction vs single in-line (X6500H) Copper plated chassis More rigid top cover Teflon tape on oscillator circuit for better damping
Thanks Gene for excellent review. The fact is that hardware is always ahead of software and it is still missing media to benefit entirely all the bells and whistles from SR8015. At the moment the best cost/benefit relation would be Marantz NR1711 and I am pretty sure that all our community would be very happy if you reviewed it. Thanks again.
Awesome review Gene. Really appreciated the part where you analysed to what extent pre out mode and pure direct mode make a difference. I love your videos, learn so much from them, keep’em coming!
Upgraded my system recently from a Denon 3100 to the Marantz 8015. I am in absolutely blown away with the sound from the Marantz. Expensive but you get what you pay for. Also bought Panasonic Hz2000. That's me broke for the next 5 year's.😭😭. But who cares I have the best sound and picture 😁😎
Thanks for the video on the 8015 and the bench test. I have ordered one of these units and I will be using the pre outs , but I was wondering if it would be possible to have the SR8015 to power my Wides and Atmos?
So good to hear...Marantz has done it again with this receiver Good work Gene like always You are the Rock of Electronics Just one question Eco Auto , so if i am running a 5 channel external power amp and the Marantz is doing the rest of the channels ...Do you still leave it ECO AUTO ? And if you put it in pre out mode and only using a 5 channel external amp will the other channels still come on in the Marantz? Because you said it turns off the channels in the Marantz ..But i am only using 5 channel amp Do you have to have external power for all 11 channels? When you put it in pre out mode?
I was in the same boat here as well... until I looked deep into the specs. I believe Denon may allow some upgrades, if sent into them. But I’m not sure which upgrades may be available for it. I’m REALLY curious how they test compared to the SR8015, regarding clean signal and power. I’ll have to go back and see if Gene bench tested the 8500 and compare it to the SR8015.
Martin Gillespie I just spent 15 minutes on Audioholics.com and bench tests don’t seem to be in the final thoughts or review. This surprises me. Anyone else know if Gene conducted in depth bench tests like he did for the SR8012 and SR8015?
I saw in other videos, criticism of manufacturers who exaggerate“150 watt per channel” by measuring at 1% THD.. so why are we here? Overall Great video thank you. Sincerely, subscriber.
Thanks! I had to do a bit of reset after the on line upgrade on my 8015 and that was curious (factory reset?). The ECO nerf is all that and worse. The temp of the unit is the same and less than my 7010 was, which is really an eye opener. Better design as far as I can figure. I now get to run a 7.2.4 in my great room.
I went to pre amp mode because I was worried the receiver was going to burn up. Was very hot for me not pushing speakers that draw lot of power. No problem now.
Thought I had decided on the Denon AVR-X6700H but this review has thrown a wrench into my decision. Awesome analysis and great review Gene! Any chance you will be reviewing the Denon 6700H in the next month or so for comparison purposes?
no likely since I'm moving soon. 8015 if you're going to use the internal amps to power your front LCR's. If you plan on using external amplification, I'd prob go the 6700 route.
Excellent test Gene. I do have to comment that the channel numbers are getting ridiculous. I get it if you have a large HT room (but then you need highly efficient speakers or additional outboard amps). My room is 12' x 17' and I'm fine with 5.1 (Yamaha DSP-A1, circa 1998) so even with the extra two front speakers and a subwoofer, my room is full. If I stuffed the room with 11 (or 13) speakers they wouldn't fit! Then there is the massive expenditure of the extra speakers and the overlapping soundstages - too much. It has a place in many HT rooms, just not in mine. What I need is get up to date on technology and get an ATMOS receiver with the latest decoding and internet music channels for my small room....like a Denon X4700H. Two channel ATMOS, thank you 😊
Very nice! So the HDAMs are a part of the preamp? Even in the lower models that has the older HDAMs? Would be nice to see the measurements of SR7015 with a different amp design and HDAMs.
great test! On the other hand do you think that for the Marantz SR 7015 the performances will also be of quality? I just ordered it and I wouldn't be disappointed. Thank you :)
Another fantastic thorough review Gene. Thank you for all your hard work! Is there any chance you could have a Denon AVR-X6700H vs AVR-X4700H review? I’m currently building my SVS Prime surround sound system. I’d really appreciate your opinion/recommendation Thank you once again for your hard work & dedication. I hope you & your family have a very Merry Christmas
Been loving your videos forever Gene... I own and love this receiver. Recently my other Marantz SR7015 after a month of ownership, made a loud pop, and stopped working-only a blue ring. Was connected to a Belkin Pure AV conditioner, with Emotiva powering the 3 fronts. Any idea how or why this happened? Definitive D17's up front, D5c center and Mythos surrounds. No smoke, no smell, just a loud pop. Sent back and considering a Denon to replace. Thank you!!
Is Marantz build quality cheap ?? Because i found a lot of negative reviews about the old models ! And how does it compare to the Denon AVR ? Thank you .
Hopefully these HDAM improvements and SNR improvements will carry through to the AV8805 successor. Gene is the best reviewer for receivers and processors
I was hoping to make the move to separates in the next couple months but this might change my mind. Gene, thoughts on this AVR vs prepro with dirac for dedicated theater room. Would you say sound quality in a theater would be same/equal or would prepro with Dirac sound better?
The OSD GUI on both brands is virtually identical. If you are talking bout the OSD on the panel, Marantz has a bigger display when the door flap comes down.
Gui considerations are very important to me too. They should be quick and snappy, but also have some style, many are kind of cold. Skeuomorphism is the dream for me. Cool features can become a detriment if they’re unwieldy.
Gene thank you so much for doing these tests. They are in-valuable to me atm. I’m in the market for a pre/pro and was wondering if you think the Marantz 7706s pre-amp section will perform the same? I have a Monolith 7X for my bed channels and can’t do Atmos until my next house. 7706 for now then another amp later or a SR8015 now and use it’s internal amps for Atmos in next house ? Tough choice being it’s a great performer. Thanks Gene
Thanks for great testing of the amplifiers, but these machines are so much more, do you plan to do any testing of the video performance? I experienced many problems with audio sync via HDMI with the new 6700H, a sister product. I have heard from my local dealer that the HDMI handshake is problematic with this unit as well. Would love it if you would try testing the ability of the receiver to lock onto the HDMI signal and maintain the lock. I am guessing I am asking for too much :) Thanks again for the great testing and presentation.
I am currently using the Denon AVR X4000, it has the pre-amp output that can be used for 2 channels only. I am using it for the main fronts to an Emotiva LPA-1. I would like to upgrade to the newer Denon.
Dan Lee hard to go wrong with another 4000 series. The x4700h looks pretty impressive compared to any competition. I am personally trying to rationalize the cost of the SR8015 because I’ve wanted a super receiver since I bought my first decent receiver (Yamaha RX-V1000) way back in 2000. I used to drool over the RX-Z7 and RX-Z11 and the SR8015 gives me that same fizz.
Does using "Pure Direct" bypass any digitization of the RCA analog inputs on this (and the Marantz AV8805A, while we are at it)? I don't mean the multi-channel input for an old school SACD/DVD-Audio multi-channel wiring scenario, by the way, if it even still has that. I mean good old, L and R RCA analog INs. Thanks, Gene.
Hi Gene!! I have just recently moved down in Pasco. Thank God you beat Covid!! I have a question/ issue I had a new Onkyo rz830 and it just went belly up and now that there in limbo with new owners there buying my unit back. I had an Onkyo 808 and it went bad too back 3 years ago. So now I am looking for a new Reciver and looking at this beast. Just making sure I am not going to destroy my speakers. Polk s35 center /S60 (Left/Right & BiAmp) And Polk 80F/X-LS f or Atmos and rear surround (4 total) . And HTS10 subs (2). Just want to know if the Marantz8015 is it over kill or just about right. Thanks again
From what I hear and read those Onkyo's have the tendency to go belly up at some point.. their sound quality is fine.. ( I prefer Marantz though) but the quality on the Onkyo's isn't what it used to be... I don't think there is such a thing as overkill in Audio...as long as you can afford it :P Of course it is overkill to by a cheap satellite system with a small sub and expect it to sound better if you go to a receiver like the SR8015.. But if you are running a quality full range system it's always better to have more power available to you than less power. The more power and better capacitors an amplifier ( or receiver ) has, the easier it will be to control your speakers, accelerate fast from silent to loud passages, but also the other way around.. you will NOT destroy your speakers by running a more capable amp on them than what the speakers are rated for (unless you crank up the volume to maximum all the time), but you will much more easily destroy them if you use an underpowered amp to drive them.. once an amp starts clipping the regular signal turns to basically heat.. burning your speakers internals. I think that if you are willing and able to spend the money on an SR8015, it will be a great match to your system. Actually it's a great match for most of us "Audiophiles" with space concerns, as we do not all have an extra man-cave room available to us to be able to decorate that as a dedicated listening room. Most of us will have everything in the living room, where the Wife acceptance factor also becomes "a thing" :))
Hi Gene, for a fellow Canadian like myself who can get the Anthem MRX1140 $500 cheaper than Marantz versus the Marantz being cheaper in the US, would you be more likely to recommend the SR8015 or the MRX1140?
Gene your analysis is great on the amps. Have you ever reviewed a pro amp in the same method. It would be fascinating for you to compare similar prices pro vs hifi amps - specs and sound. I have an old home theater magazine that covered an install with dynaudio pro speakers and crest pro amps for Eddie Murphy cause he wanted his theater to hit 120 dB like his studio could. Any thoughts?
Your review was so great I had made up my mind to get this receiver but then got discouraged by the 11% 1 star reviews on Amazon about the HDMI 2.1 issues. Can you give any insight to this and that the 22 models addressed these issues. Or should I go with Arcam AVR21?
May I ask you a question? I have an older Marantz that I use for home theater as well as my - nice - turntable. If I buy the SR8015, would it be advisable to use it for home theater only and use my older Marantz 7010 dedicated purely to the turntable? Or use the new one for both? I care about the audio from my turntable a bit more than for my home theater. Thanks SO much for your opinion.
Hi Gene, I appreciate your sophisticated reviews. But could you pls translate some of the technical specifictions towards real life experience. Don´t loose the technical aspect, just sum it up with your personal audio experience. Thanx
Hi Gene ! That would be good to show the results of these tests not as a standalone, but in comparison mode. On the market, there is currently 3 receivers in the same range : Yamaha A8A, Denon 8500H and this Marantz SR8015 : which one is the best ?
"The retail is too! High Boss ..but as good as THX reference test yer not bad ..but a little weak on power-push at 4ohms ..which I my self run A.V.unit at .. "GREAT VID! G.D. 🤕🗺🇪🇺💜
I think the Amos 7 or 9 channel is worth the extra channels is you have the space and wall for it . Thank for the review I alway love the Marantz sound for music , over Denon ? My preference only.
Hello, help me solve it. I have a 5.1.2 installation on the Pioneer VSX-LX302, I want to change the receiver, since Pioneer often freezes when listening to music via Tidal. The choice fell on the Marantz SR8015. Is it worth it or should I throw money at Marantz AV8805 + Marantz MM8077? I want the highest quality sound possible %)
Hi Gene! Great review. I wanted to have a 5.2.4 set up.but I'm not sure if I will get Marantz SR 8015 receiver or Marantz AV 7705 pre/pro which is 11 channel only .. My question is if go with the Marantz AV 7705 and just add 2 Outlaw 7000 amplifier with 130watts x7 per channel. Do you think the Marantz 7705 pre/pro will sound better and cleaner? Thank you in advance!
He answered another guy that with a processor you don't get that heat dissipation and you get balanced outputs. But I also believe he said measurements being on par with a processor. You might wanna wait for the upcoming AV7706.
Gene, I am in the market for a new avr. Love love love your videos and reviews. I’m still feeling the sting from my Onkyo pre-pro issue hdmi board failure twice and crappy service. Really want to go with the sr8015, but than read this on Amazon. Any thoughts? Amazon Marantz Customer Support] Marantz does not own any service centers. All of them are independent contractors... [Marantz] does not have our own parts inventory. We have a separate company that handles that for us. It is a company called Encompass and if they do not have the parts needed for the repair then the unit is deemed not repairable.In truth, nothing is unrepairable. It is just that because parts that are not available would have to be made, the cost of the repair would be more prohibitive than the cost to buy a new unit. So it is not worth repairing. If United Radio told you the unit can not be repaired what they meant was that replacement parts are not available and it would cost you more to repair it than it is worth.Marantz does not have an obligation to any of its units outside of their warranty period. We still provide phone and email support as a courtesy. And it is not so much that they will not accept the unit, they just know for old units there are not likely to be parts available and they do not want you to waste your time shipping it to them if that is the case.[End of Email from Marantz]A couple of things to note here. First, Marantz doesn’t make the parts - another company makes them. There’s no contractual obligation from the parts manufacturer and Marantz to offer parts for any period of time to support their products even their reference series.Second, Marantz makes it completely obvious that the Authorized Service Centers that they direct you to are completely unaffiliated with Marantz and have no obligation to even accept certain units for repair. This is exactly what happened to me - their regional service center wouldn't even accept the unit for repair. They say that nothing is irreparable - well, obviously all my receivers are.Third, Marantz clearly states that it does not have an obligation to any of its units outside of their warranty period. Unlike car or watch manufacturers who will gladly repair your unit for a fee , Marantz’s interpretation is that they have no obligation to even offer a means or a service center to repair the unit. You’re on your own - it’s Saab time and the factory is shut down.This is very disconcerting for what are considered by many audiophile grade receivers - it would be fine if we’re talking about a $500 receiver but not okay for $3,000+ receivers.Like many of you, I was planning to upgrade to the 8015 but I can't buy it if it will not be repairable 5 years after I buy it and I definitely don’t want to squabble about the existence of parts with Marantz if something happens. If there are no parts, this receiver will be completely unusable and I'll end up with 3 of the most expensive bricks I've owned. I'm sharing my story with you to make sure that this doesn't happen to you.I know that a few of you will think that I got plenty of life out of my receiver and I did and I love the sound of the receiver but the option to repair it should rest with me, not Marantz. I was lucky I had a spare 8001 and could use that but not everyone here will be in that situation where they have a 8012 lying around and certainly spending another $3,000 to replace the same model is not something I would like any of you to have to do. And let me tell you, my back has paid the huge price dealing with the broken receiver. One service center accepted it, charged me but didn’t fix the receiver. You don’t want to hear Marantz’s response. Read less
Gene, does the SR8015 do 6 Independent/Separate Channel Atmos feeds? I've heard that companies offer 6 Channel Atmos, but not all 6 atmos channels are actually independently fed.
If you have dedicated home theatre then it’s make sense for pre amp receiver and amplifier otherwise for living room and small space you cannot go wrong with Marantz SR 8012 and 8015 best buck for money
Hi Gene, thank you for the informative video. We learn alot from them. My question is.... How do you see the AV8805? The only video I've seen is from Sparechange talking about it but haven't seen no"benchmark" videos on it. I just (upgraded?) my 8012 to the 8805 and went complete seperates. Do you ever plan on benchmarking the 8805? Thanks in advanced sir
@@Audioholics Thank you for the reply sir. Ok, so I guess I didnt do to bad selling the 8012 to get the 8805, especially if its on par with the 8015 seeing how the 8805 is about 2 - 3 years old and the 8015 just came out. Anxious to see what the 8805 replacement brings also
I don't understand why anyone gives a thumbs down. This is GREAT info and it's FREE! Gene, keep up the great job!
Bose peasants...
Either they can’t afford things in this price range or they are Yamaha employees
I agree. I never thumb anything down. If i dont like something, i probably wont watch it. I certainly wouldnt waste my time being negative. Thumbs up
I cant afford most of this stuff, but its fun to dream.
Boe Dillard- ya the lack of 2.1 support kinda sucks.
The extensive power testing was superb. Wish the AVR magazines would still do these, reviews are useless without them. Glad to see the 70% promise across 5 (really 7) channels holds true.
Well not everyone has an Audio Precision System Two at home, and even if they do they must know how to properly use it :)
Just ordered one to replace my old flagship Denon 5700 THX ultra certified receiver.i think im gonna cry letting this one go but glad the 8015 got such grand bench test results from Gene. Thanks for making the decision easier for me. Keep up the great work, I appreciate it
Thank you so much it’s so nice to see the master at work to do that kind of testing takes years to learn . Straight to the point ,
I know it may sound redundant, but I would really appreciate an in depth look at the SR7015. I say this because I feel that the 7015 sits in a more friendly price range and also better represents the rest of the marantz line. The 8015 looks amazing but it’s the only one with a toroidal and all those nice features. The other three models seem more similar to each other in that sense. And to see a look into one of them may represent the rest of the line a little better then the flagship. Great video though! I appreciate all the work.
I agree I hope the SR7015 gets an in depth review.
What's an "El" transformer?
I'm with you...that's the one I'm looking at, as I'm running a power amp on five of my nine channels (5.2.4.) and don't need the receivers extra wattage (or channels). I would prefer the Marantz to the Denon 6700 (purely for aesthetics) but we shall see.
Yes, the SR7015 is the one I'm considering as well. Would love some measurements on it.
I wanted to consider the SR7015 as well, but I feel like I’m either going to go SR6015 or full hog with the SR8015. I prefer the SR7015 over the SR6015 in every way, but with the new preamp made and me being able to use amplifiers altogether, I feel like the SR7015 is more waste than good.
Front wide is back, yeah baby!! Great review!
You always have the best reviews , I learn a lot from watching your shows , keep up the good work
Gene, Thanks for all of the efforts you put into giving us real testing info and the DIY help. But, it sure would helpful to get your testing and opinions on gear that the majority of can actually buy. Sure a $3000 Marantz is the goal, but a $500 - $700 receiver-amp is more realistic. I'm sure a lot of us would help fund and be glued to your set-up, testing and review of a
Kevin, with respect, I have 3 considerations. #1 - Gene's job and value add is reviewing new products and tech for those interested in what's now available. He's sincere, thorough, and good at it. #2 - Yes, the SR8015 is ~$3k MSRP first month of launch. In reality, this receiver will be available for much less in a year, and a gently used one even less so in 2+ yrs and beyond. This excellent review will be alive for all to see beyond the product launch window. #3 - At $3k it's not -that- expensive for a product with a lifespan of 5-7 years or more. $500 a year ain't bad for the value. Incomes rise for many where $3k isn't a huge spend compared to hobbies like classic cars, or boats, and so forth. I mean, how much will you spend on smart phones and data plans in 6 years? My retirement funds fluctuate more than 3k in an afternoon. Ten years ago when my kids were younger I would have scoffed at spending $3k for audio. Today, I'm thinking it would make a wonderful Xmas present.
@@jaygrady9080 Thanks for the feedback and being nice. I also agree with your thoughts. I'm so very happy for all of the people who have been smart enough to work hard, plan ahead and develop an income stream that supports all of their desires. It's just to bad for the rest of us that don't have the smarts or guts to get tons money from others for our bank account. I work seven days a week 10 - 16 hours each day repairing industrial engines, welding machines, generators and other equipment and I am still F'ing broke. I must be broke because everyone says I am too nice and let my efforts, far too often, go for zero dollars. So, it's my own fault for not being able to easily afford $3000 on such nice new products. Honestly, I am grateful for the Denon 5.1 receiver, the 50 watt Audio Source sub woofer and the 70" Sharp TV I rescued from the recycle center over the past several years. Maybe someday some rich guy will toss out a gem of a system that I can bring back from the jaws of death as I will surely be flat broke then to. Thanks again for your insight - time to put my grease stained hands back work.
@@welderfixer You seem to be a very humble person. If you’re interested I have an Onkyo TX-RZ920 I can give you for free if you’re in the states. It’s 3 years old but runs great. Can process 11.2 channels. Plays 9 speakers with built in amp and 2 more with an external amp. Supports 4K, Dolby atmos, and THX certified. PM me if interested.
I had the SR 7015 set up a couple of days ago and am very pleased with it. I'm using it as a preamp that replaced a Rotel that was 35 years old. I went with the Marantz because it has the latest technology and am using the preamp function to go with my Rotel amps (also 35 years old and speaks to the quality of them). I'm on a fixed income now so trying to save money if I have to use the receiver mode.. When the rotel amps die I will use the full receiver function. A couple of suggestions. 1. Have a professional hook it up for you. Today's stuff is a lot more complex and there are no videos or good setup guides from Marantz. 2. I wish the remote was RF. Gene helped in making my decision to go with the Marantz.
Really enjoy your analysis and test results very informative. I love my marantz SR8015!
I think the price is fair for what you get.. I'm not a Marantz fan but this looks like a very nice AVR. Great job on the review very detail and concise I was able to understand what was being described. You make it understandable which is very very good. Like a teacher.
After your SR-8012 review you had recommended the SR-7012 as a very good bargain versus performance. I bought it new on sale for $1,000. I am using 8 of the 9 amps for surrounds and Atmos with monoblocks for the front 3. The AVR has served me well. I believe the SR-8015 will be my next upgrade as it is feature rich over my current one. Thanks for confirming the specs are equal or better than advertised.
Is it worth to buy Gene?
I am coming off a 7010 and it is a good difference. It rests and runs much cooler, the programming feature rocks, and of course I get to run a 7.2.4 now.
Three years later, the Cinema 30 is out and I was able to buy a new Marantz SR8015 for less than $2K! Love it. I enjoyed watching your analysis of the 8015. It does sound amazing!
so how do you like it? how would you describe the sound?
@@MasterofPlay7The SR8015 is warm and sweet when listening to music but dynamically strong and sharp when watching a movie. I have a 5.1.4 and use an EMOTIVA XPA-3 Gen 3 to drive my front stage Martin Logan Motion 60XTi/50XTi. Really happy with my setup. Love the Marantz.
@@rafacq are you going to upgrade to cinema 30?
@@MasterofPlay7why would I want to spend $4,500? I have no reason to change. I don’t want Dirac and I only use one sub. No need for 4 sub outs. I’m not jumping in to that rabbit hole! My system sounds amazing, particularly after using Audyssey One.
@@rafacq do you have to pay extra for audyssey/dirac? I'm debating which one makes sense
Great video! I love your extremely unbiased approach and explanation of everything that was easy to follow. Subscribed to your channel immediately.
Thank you Gene, as usual you have given a treasure trove of info. I appreciate the straight In depth analytical view points placed on your research & testing of equipment you review.....👍👍👍👏👏👏
Keep up the great work!
Thanks for all your reviews Gene, so much to learn. Just purchased the SR-8015 today and have some time over the next few days to set it up and listen. Hope its a step-up from the SR-7012 that's been in the rack for the last few years and have really enjoyed
And whats the difference 2 years later?
Im using The new preamp mode on my sr7015, using two emotivas.
Gene, great update, please comment about the DACS as I stream music -- 95 % of the time!
Absolutely great video Gene and respect to Marantz for edging out an improvement. Now we would love to see a test with 4 Vrms with one of Marantz's Pre amp proccessors to see how the XLR out performs. Unless, I have missed it in your previous tests but more so for future products.
If only they would make some new movies worth all these extra Chanel's.
I'll stick with great 2-ch music, and 5.1 one TV/movies.
I hear you. Marantz make some truly beautiful gear including the SR-8015. I still haven’t found the justification to invest in upgrading to Atmos though. My basement ceiling isn’t high enough nor my listening room big enough for one thing. My Sony STR-DA5800ES is serving me well thank you.
Yeah, I hear you. I run 5.2 myself, but the Height Virtualization is supposed to be good.
Do you have a separate 2 channel system or do you do music and movies with 1?
@@michaelkaiser5994 Hi,
Same system but most of the effort has been put towards 2-Ch music.
How about being able to mix and match video and audio to the same source like watching a football game while listening to play by play from the local radio station instead of the t.v. broadcasters? How about just shooting sound like the radio to the second video source?
Holy sh*t Gene , your Win system tray, what a mess!! Cleanup time / hiding icons up. Love your methodical , data driven process , always
no doubt, LOL
Hope to get my 8015 any day! Big upgrade from my current Yamaha RX-Z7. Great content and info, thank you.
Can you tell me what speakers you plan to get with the 8015? I'm trying to build a home theatre....(framing up 2x4 walls currently). I want to do 4 overhead Atmos speakers 1 sub, and high quality 3 way center speaker.... thats all I know so far. What should I add to the 8015? I'm going to need a cabinet (with cooling fans). Can you recommend a good bluray/DVD player? Anything else you'd recommend for my cabinet? Whats all this talk about pre-amps?
@@jcro8926 Hello. I already had speakers from my previous system.
Fronts: Paradigm Studio 100 v5
Center: Paradigm Prestige 55C
Surround: Yamaha NS-777
Rear Surround: Yamaha NS-777
Top Atmos: x4 SVS Elevation Prime
Sub: x2 15” Electro-Voice DL15W
Sub power: Mitsubishi DA-15DC
Bluray: Panasonic DB820
TV: LG C9 77”
I feel I have some real nice speakers. But I’m sure there are other people with much nicer setups than me. I have around 15K in speakers I’m using from my last receiver.
Thanks Gene, I ordered an 8015 yesterday and cannot wait for it to arrive 👍
Can't wait to get my hands on one. Glad to hear there are benefits to adding an amp without having to resort to preamp mode.
Just purchased one and really appreciate the detailed performance results.
I want to see how the cheapest Marantz home theater receiver does on the bench test..
Of course we expect at $3,000 receiver to do well
That’s not entirely true. A lot of 4,000 + processors have measured very poorly for their price tag. This is a great example of it being worth its price.
How does the Denon X6700H compare since these two avr's are identical on paper. There is a $600 difference in price; a solid comparison video would be great! Thank you for all your work Gene and crew!!!
Agree, I'd love to see this comparison also. Thanks.
I compared the SR8012 to the X6500 in my 8012 review as follows:
Marantz SR8012 Advantages over the Denon AVR-X6500H:
HDAM SA2 current feedback topology between preamp and power amp
22,000uF, 81V capacitors x 2 vs 15,000uF, 73V capacitors (X-6500H)
Torodial 835VA transformer vs 750VA E-Core (X-6500H)
Separated symmetric construction vs single in-line (X6500H)
Copper plated chassis
More rigid top cover
Teflon tape on oscillator circuit for better damping
@@Audioholics Thank you Gene.👍
@@Audioholics a uk review stated when reviewing the 8012 save your money and Biy the Denon 6500H ?
Marantz for me! We enjoy our SR5600 & SR8500 respectively thank you!
Do you do any reviews of say an sr5015 to the 8015? i just wonder besides channels are the other upgrades significant to sound quality?
Excellent job, Gene! This is a real big help for us, consumers. Very useful. Now comes the proof of the pudding: the actually eating.....
VERY thorough and thoughtful... well done ole chap.
Gene I love you, you are a blessing to all of us.
Very good bag for the buck, will be my next receiver purchase to upgrade what I'm currently running in my HT.
Thanks Gene for excellent review.
The fact is that hardware is always ahead of software and it is still missing media to benefit entirely all the bells and whistles from SR8015.
At the moment the best cost/benefit relation would be Marantz NR1711 and I am pretty sure that all our community would be very happy if you reviewed it. Thanks again.
Awesome review Gene. Really appreciated the part where you analysed to what extent pre out mode and pure direct mode make a difference.
I love your videos, learn so much from them, keep’em coming!
I'm thinking about getting a second job for like 6 months just so I can buy one of these I'm jealous
long time since I have so excited about an AVR..Thanks Gene!
Me too ! picking mine up next week :)
Great review and glad to see it performing so well. Look forward to the denon 6700/4700 reviews down the road hopefully.
Excellent review Gene, like they used to be in the old days! Wow this receiver would make an excellent companion for my Nord NC500 amplifiers.
Very detailed and professional review Gene - Thanks
Upgraded my system recently from a Denon 3100 to the Marantz 8015.
I am in absolutely blown away with the sound from the Marantz. Expensive but you get what you pay for.
Also bought Panasonic Hz2000. That's me broke for the next 5 year's.😭😭.
But who cares I have the best sound and picture 😁😎
Gene nice evaluation, you realy know your stuff this is comming from a high educated electronic Engineer in audio, keep going thumbs up!!
Absolutely great information and video!! Thanks 👍👍
Thanks for the great info as always. I’ll double check my eco mode and insure it’s only set to Auto or off.
Very informative video as always!
Thanks!
Pretty Impressive review! Thanks!
Thanks for the video on the 8015 and the bench test. I have ordered one of these units and I will be using the pre outs , but I was wondering if it would be possible to have the SR8015 to power my Wides and Atmos?
Good review as always!
Gene,
When Marantz upgrades the 8805 to 8K, please conduct a bench test on this Processor...
Awesome! I’ll wait till the next model comes out before buying the 8015.
Excellent video. Thank you.
Getting mine tomorrow after 5 weeks on back order.😊
So good to hear...Marantz has done it again with this receiver Good work Gene like always You are the Rock of Electronics Just one question Eco Auto , so if i am running a 5 channel external power amp and the Marantz is doing the rest of the channels ...Do you still leave it ECO AUTO ? And if you put it in pre out mode and only using a 5 channel external amp will the other channels still come on in the Marantz? Because you said it turns off the channels in the Marantz ..But i am only using 5 channel amp Do you have to have external power for all 11 channels? When you put it in pre out mode?
In preamp mode you have to use external amplification for all channels.
@@Raritytuber ok thanks
I would like to see you do a comparison with the 8500H .I'm am on the shelf about witch one .
Ditto!
Same here!
I was in the same boat here as well... until I looked deep into the specs. I believe Denon may allow some upgrades, if sent into them. But I’m not sure which upgrades may be available for it. I’m REALLY curious how they test compared to the SR8015, regarding clean signal and power. I’ll have to go back and see if Gene bench tested the 8500 and compare it to the SR8015.
@@mvanalst2003 I was looking but didn't come across it ?
Martin Gillespie I just spent 15 minutes on Audioholics.com and bench tests don’t seem to be in the final thoughts or review. This surprises me. Anyone else know if Gene conducted in depth bench tests like he did for the SR8012 and SR8015?
I saw in other videos, criticism of manufacturers who exaggerate“150 watt per channel” by measuring at 1% THD.. so why are we here? Overall Great video thank you. Sincerely, subscriber.
Thank You!
Just bought one! This SR8015 will replace my 6010. At first listen, I am noticing a difference in audio. Seems to be more oomph!!
Thanks! I had to do a bit of reset after the on line upgrade on my 8015 and that was curious (factory reset?). The ECO nerf is all that and worse. The temp of the unit is the same and less than my 7010 was, which is really an eye opener. Better design as far as I can figure. I now get to run a 7.2.4 in my great room.
Beautiful! Think we’ll see a 16 channel pre pro by Marantz this year?
I went to pre amp mode because I was worried the receiver was going to burn up. Was very hot for me not pushing speakers that draw lot of power. No problem now.
Thought I had decided on the Denon AVR-X6700H but this review has thrown a wrench into my decision. Awesome analysis and great review Gene! Any chance you will be reviewing the Denon 6700H in the next month or so for comparison purposes?
no likely since I'm moving soon. 8015 if you're going to use the internal amps to power your front LCR's. If you plan on using external amplification, I'd prob go the 6700 route.
What about the SR7015?
Excellent test Gene. I do have to comment that the channel numbers are getting ridiculous. I get it if you have a large HT room (but then you need highly efficient speakers or additional outboard amps). My room is 12' x 17' and I'm fine with 5.1 (Yamaha DSP-A1, circa 1998) so even with the extra two front speakers and a subwoofer, my room is full. If I stuffed the room with 11 (or 13) speakers they wouldn't fit! Then there is the massive expenditure of the extra speakers and the overlapping soundstages - too much.
It has a place in many HT rooms, just not in mine. What I need is get up to date on technology and get an ATMOS receiver with the latest decoding and internet music channels for my small room....like a Denon X4700H. Two channel ATMOS, thank you 😊
Very nice! So the HDAMs are a part of the preamp? Even in the lower models that has the older HDAMs? Would be nice to see the measurements of SR7015 with a different amp design and HDAMs.
I'll buy it next Christmas 2021 🌲 Time To Start Saving
great test!
On the other hand do you think that for the Marantz SR 7015 the performances will also be of quality? I just ordered it and I wouldn't be disappointed.
Thank you :)
Can you please do a comparison between sr8015 and Denon Avr x8500h? Thank you so much
Another fantastic thorough review Gene. Thank you for all your hard work!
Is there any chance you could have a Denon AVR-X6700H vs AVR-X4700H review? I’m currently building my SVS Prime surround sound system. I’d really appreciate your opinion/recommendation
Thank you once again for your hard work & dedication. I hope you & your family have a very Merry Christmas
Been loving your videos forever Gene... I own and love this receiver. Recently my other Marantz SR7015 after a month of ownership, made a loud pop, and stopped working-only a blue ring. Was connected to a Belkin Pure AV conditioner, with Emotiva powering the 3 fronts. Any idea how or why this happened? Definitive D17's up front, D5c center and Mythos surrounds. No smoke, no smell, just a loud pop. Sent back and considering a Denon to replace. Thank you!!
Is Marantz build quality cheap ?? Because i found a lot of negative reviews about the old models ! And how does it compare to the Denon AVR ? Thank you .
Hopefully these HDAM improvements and SNR improvements will carry through to the AV8805 successor. Gene is the best reviewer for receivers and processors
Really would be great if Audioholics would have reviewed and tested the AV7706.
I was hoping to make the move to separates in the next couple months but this might change my mind. Gene, thoughts on this AVR vs prepro with dirac for dedicated theater room. Would you say sound quality in a theater would be same/equal or would prepro with Dirac sound better?
I believe I heard him say measurements was on par with a processor.
I like Marantz but I don't like the tiny OSD. That has always prevented me from buying one. I like the Denon OSD. Thank you.
The OSD GUI on both brands is virtually identical. If you are talking bout the OSD on the panel, Marantz has a bigger display when the door flap comes down.
Gui considerations are very important to me too. They should be quick and snappy, but also have some style, many are kind of cold. Skeuomorphism is the dream for me. Cool features can become a detriment if they’re unwieldy.
Thanks, I meant the On Screen Display.
Gene thank you so much for doing these tests. They are in-valuable to me atm. I’m in the market for a pre/pro and was wondering if you think the Marantz 7706s pre-amp section will perform the same? I have a Monolith 7X for my bed channels and can’t do Atmos until my next house. 7706 for now then another amp later or a SR8015 now and use it’s internal amps for Atmos in next house ? Tough choice being it’s a great performer. Thanks Gene
I expect the 7706 to output better.
A Marantz is anyday 👌 😍
How does this compare to the Denon avr x8500h in terms of sound quality?
Nice job! I would like to see the same test over the Denon AVR-X8500X.
Thanks for great testing of the amplifiers, but these machines are so much more, do you plan to do any testing of the video performance? I experienced many problems with audio sync via HDMI with the new 6700H, a sister product. I have heard from my local dealer that the HDMI handshake is problematic with this unit as well. Would love it if you would try testing the ability of the receiver to lock onto the HDMI signal and maintain the lock. I am guessing I am asking for too much :) Thanks again for the great testing and presentation.
yes i will try to cover that in the formal review.
I am currently using the Denon AVR X4000, it has the pre-amp output that can be used for 2 channels only. I am using it for the main fronts to an Emotiva LPA-1. I would like to upgrade to the newer Denon.
Dan Lee hard to go wrong with another 4000 series. The x4700h looks pretty impressive compared to any competition.
I am personally trying to rationalize the cost of the SR8015 because I’ve wanted a super receiver since I bought my first decent receiver (Yamaha RX-V1000) way back in 2000. I used to drool over the RX-Z7 and RX-Z11 and the SR8015 gives me that same fizz.
Does using "Pure Direct" bypass any digitization of the RCA analog inputs on this (and the Marantz AV8805A, while we are at it)? I don't mean the multi-channel input for an old school SACD/DVD-Audio multi-channel wiring scenario, by the way, if it even still has that. I mean good old, L and R RCA analog INs. Thanks, Gene.
Hi Gene!!
I have just recently moved down in Pasco. Thank God you beat Covid!!
I have a question/ issue I had a new Onkyo rz830 and it just went belly up and now that there in limbo with new owners there buying my unit back. I had an Onkyo 808 and it went bad too back 3 years ago. So now I am looking for a new Reciver and looking at this beast. Just making sure I am not going to destroy my speakers. Polk s35 center /S60 (Left/Right & BiAmp)
And Polk 80F/X-LS f or Atmos and rear surround (4 total) .
And HTS10 subs (2).
Just want to know if the Marantz8015 is it over kill or just about right.
Thanks again
From what I hear and read those Onkyo's have the tendency to go belly up at some point.. their sound quality is fine.. ( I prefer Marantz though) but the quality on the Onkyo's isn't what it used to be... I don't think there is such a thing as overkill in Audio...as long as you can afford it :P Of course it is overkill to by a cheap satellite system with a small sub and expect it to sound better if you go to a receiver like the SR8015.. But if you are running a quality full range system it's always better to have more power available to you than less power. The more power and better capacitors an amplifier ( or receiver ) has, the easier it will be to control your speakers, accelerate fast from silent to loud passages, but also the other way around.. you will NOT destroy your speakers by running a more capable amp on them than what the speakers are rated for (unless you crank up the volume to maximum all the time), but you will much more easily destroy them if you use an underpowered amp to drive them.. once an amp starts clipping the regular signal turns to basically heat.. burning your speakers internals. I think that if you are willing and able to spend the money on an SR8015, it will be a great match to your system. Actually it's a great match for most of us "Audiophiles" with space concerns, as we do not all have an extra man-cave room available to us to be able to decorate that as a dedicated listening room. Most of us will have everything in the living room, where the Wife acceptance factor also becomes "a thing" :))
great video
Hi Gene, for a fellow Canadian like myself who can get the Anthem MRX1140 $500 cheaper than Marantz versus the Marantz being cheaper in the US, would you be more likely to recommend the SR8015 or the MRX1140?
Gene your analysis is great on the amps. Have you ever reviewed a pro amp in the same method. It would be fascinating for you to compare similar prices pro vs hifi amps - specs and sound. I have an old home theater magazine that covered an install with dynaudio pro speakers and crest pro amps for Eddie Murphy cause he wanted his theater to hit 120 dB like his studio could. Any thoughts?
Your review was so great I had made up my mind to get this receiver but then got discouraged by the 11% 1 star reviews on Amazon about the HDMI 2.1 issues. Can you give any insight to this and that the 22 models addressed these issues. Or should I go with Arcam AVR21?
the hdmi 2.1 issues have been solved you no longer need the free adapter box
maeantz was giving out if you buy a new model today
May I ask you a question? I have an older Marantz that I use for home theater as well as my - nice - turntable. If I buy the SR8015, would it be advisable to use it for home theater only and use my older Marantz 7010 dedicated purely to the turntable? Or use the new one for both? I care about the audio from my turntable a bit more than for my home theater. Thanks SO much for your opinion.
Hi Gene, I appreciate your sophisticated reviews. But could you pls translate some of the technical specifictions towards real life experience. Don´t loose the technical aspect, just sum it up with your personal audio experience. Thanx
Hi Gene ! That would be good to show the results of these tests not as a standalone, but in comparison mode. On the market, there is currently 3 receivers in the same range : Yamaha A8A, Denon 8500H and this Marantz SR8015 : which one is the best ?
"The retail is too! High Boss ..but as good as THX reference test yer not bad ..but a little weak on power-push at 4ohms ..which I my self run A.V.unit at ..
"GREAT VID! G.D.
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I think the Amos 7 or 9 channel is worth the extra channels is you have the space and wall for it . Thank for the review I alway love the Marantz sound for music , over Denon ? My preference only.
Hello, help me solve it. I have a 5.1.2 installation on the Pioneer VSX-LX302, I want to change the receiver, since Pioneer often freezes when listening to music via Tidal. The choice fell on the Marantz SR8015. Is it worth it or should I throw money at Marantz AV8805 + Marantz MM8077? I want the highest quality sound possible %)
Please review the new 2020 Denon X series receivers (X4700H, X6700H, X8500H).
I'm hoping to get one soon!
Hi Gene! Great review. I wanted to have a 5.2.4 set up.but I'm not sure if I will get Marantz SR 8015 receiver or Marantz AV 7705 pre/pro which is 11 channel only .. My question is if go with the Marantz AV 7705 and just add 2 Outlaw 7000 amplifier with 130watts x7 per channel. Do you think the Marantz 7705 pre/pro will sound better and cleaner? Thank you in advance!
He answered another guy that with a processor you don't get that heat dissipation and you get balanced outputs. But I also believe he said measurements being on par with a processor. You might wanna wait for the upcoming AV7706.
Do you have power output measurement for all 11 channels driven? This is a great review thank you!
Gene, I am in the market for a new avr. Love love love your videos and reviews. I’m still feeling the sting from my Onkyo pre-pro issue hdmi board failure twice and crappy service. Really want to go with the sr8015, but than read this on Amazon. Any thoughts?
Amazon Marantz Customer Support]
Marantz does not own any service centers. All of them are independent contractors... [Marantz] does not have our own parts inventory. We have a separate company that handles that for us. It is a company called Encompass and if they do not have the parts needed for the repair then the unit is deemed not repairable.In truth, nothing is unrepairable. It is just that because parts that are not available would have to be made, the cost of the repair would be more prohibitive than the cost to buy a new unit. So it is not worth repairing. If United Radio told you the unit can not be repaired what they meant was that replacement parts are not available and it would cost you more to repair it than it is worth.Marantz does not have an obligation to any of its units outside of their warranty period. We still provide phone and email support as a courtesy. And it is not so much that they will not accept the unit, they just know for old units there are not likely to be parts available and they do not want you to waste your time shipping it to them if that is the case.[End of Email from Marantz]A couple of things to note here. First, Marantz doesn’t make the parts - another company makes them. There’s no contractual obligation from the parts manufacturer and Marantz to offer parts for any period of time to support their products even their reference series.Second, Marantz makes it completely obvious that the Authorized Service Centers that they direct you to are completely unaffiliated with Marantz and have no obligation to even accept certain units for repair. This is exactly what happened to me - their regional service center wouldn't even accept the unit for repair. They say that nothing is irreparable - well, obviously all my receivers are.Third, Marantz clearly states that it does not have an obligation to any of its units outside of their warranty period. Unlike car or watch manufacturers who will gladly repair your unit for a fee , Marantz’s interpretation is that they have no obligation to even offer a means or a service center to repair the unit. You’re on your own - it’s Saab time and the factory is shut down.This is very disconcerting for what are considered by many audiophile grade receivers - it would be fine if we’re talking about a $500 receiver but not okay for $3,000+ receivers.Like many of you, I was planning to upgrade to the 8015 but I can't buy it if it will not be repairable 5 years after I buy it and I definitely don’t want to squabble about the existence of parts with Marantz if something happens. If there are no parts, this receiver will be completely unusable and I'll end up with 3 of the most expensive bricks I've owned. I'm sharing my story with you to make sure that this doesn't happen to you.I know that a few of you will think that I got plenty of life out of my receiver and I did and I love the sound of the receiver but the option to repair it should rest with me, not Marantz. I was lucky I had a spare 8001 and could use that but not everyone here will be in that situation where they have a 8012 lying around and certainly spending another $3,000 to replace the same model is not something I would like any of you to have to do. And let me tell you, my back has paid the huge price dealing with the broken receiver. One service center accepted it, charged me but didn’t fix the receiver. You don’t want to hear Marantz’s response.
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Gene, does the SR8015 do 6 Independent/Separate Channel Atmos feeds? I've heard that companies offer 6 Channel Atmos, but not all 6 atmos channels are actually independently fed.
If you have dedicated home theatre then it’s make sense for pre amp receiver and amplifier otherwise for living room and small space you cannot go wrong with Marantz SR 8012 and 8015 best buck for money
Hi Gene, thank you for the informative video. We learn alot from them. My question is.... How do you see the AV8805? The only video I've seen is from Sparechange talking about it but haven't seen no"benchmark" videos on it. I just (upgraded?) my 8012 to the 8805 and went complete seperates. Do you ever plan on benchmarking the 8805? Thanks in advanced sir
It's a good processor, better analog front end than the AV7706 AND on par with the SR8015. Will probably bench test the 8805 replacement.
@@Audioholics Thank you for the reply sir. Ok, so I guess I didnt do to bad selling the 8012 to get the 8805, especially if its on par with the 8015 seeing how the 8805 is about 2 - 3 years old and the 8015 just came out. Anxious to see what the 8805 replacement brings also