When I worked on a vineyard, I once asked the owner how to tell a good wine, his response was "A good wine is whatever you like, it varies from person to person".
@@kilianhzh And what exactly is quality when it comes to personal taste? I tried super expensive caviar and pound for pound even more expensive truffles...they both taste like sh*t to me. Truffles had super intense taste I found to be utterly disgusting and caviar almost made me barf.
Years ago I used to be a server at Olive Garden, and when they hire you on, they make you go through a 4 or 5 days "class" where you sample various entrees, appetizers, wines, champagne, etc. We were supposed to try certain foods and then try to pair them with certain drinks. I felt pretty dumb, because everything seemed to go with anything. I just started making shit up, and the guy running the class was like "Excellent choice. Blah blah snobby jibberish blah blah." Lulz.
You can’t really go wrong with pairing any wine with any food tbh. Even wine experts will tell you that. There’s really only a few things to avoid when pairing wine with food, like not drinking a high alcohol wine with spicy food. Pretty much anything else will taste good
One thing for sure is that you guys are. These are either self-proclaimed "experts" or common folk with a false label. You absolutely will not fool an actual professional wine taster with such cheap wine.
great vid, i think some of the cheap wines are really tasty, especially these big bottles of lambrusco. id love to see that kind of test with whiskey. i like to drink some whiskey and i think it makes a difference how long its been matured (that 3y supermarket vs 8+years, tho everything over 15y doesnt differ much), but i think a lot of whiskey drinkers do it for the posh attitude thats associated with it and id like to see if they can differentiate between a good whisky and the fine notes of 4€ booze (also the face when they drink it, because cheap whiskey often tastes like sucking off an iron bar). anyway gr8 vids and greetings from germany
Most people you interviewed are not experts. People attending a public tasting are not necessarily experts, just as people watching a race are not race drivers. I'm a wine professional and I have organized many tastings were I did just this, I scrambeled some cheap bottles among moderate to high priced one. The others (wine journalists, sommeliers..) were practically never fooled and immediately said that the wine is below average. And this is not hard to find out when you taste a lot of wine. Why is cheap wine cheap? Because it is harvested rather carleless with high yields. Easy formula: You can measure how much juice you get from, let's say, one square kilometer of vineyards. If you pick only the best grapes, it will be far less than if you pick ANY grapes. Thus, the wine will be better and more intensive; cheap wine just tastes like red alcohol in comparison.
I work in the wine industry and we blind taste all the time. It can be very difficult, but honestly I've never met a "wine expert" in my life that couldn't identify a shit quality merlot. I've tasted with people that can not only pick out where the wine is from, what the grape is, the quality, but even the VINTAGE and EXACT PRODUCER occasionally. I tasted with a Som once who lifted a glass of Beaujolais to her nose blind and said "That's from Morgon in Beaujolais and I don't like Morgon." Not only could she tell it was from the town of Beaujolais, she knew which tiny commune (out of 10 communes) only by smell. I don't know where they got these "experts," but if I was hanging out with a group of industry friends and we blinded a 3 euro merlot from the supermarket, if one of them said it was a 25 euro Cab like the one guy, we would laugh them out of the building. So yeah, don't pay much attention to this video, it's not an accurate representation of experts in the field (not even close).
@frootjooce well I can’t put a video record of my entire career in the wine industry on a UA-cam comment, so... I didn’t get all this from watching Netflix man, I have a personal friend who is studying for his level 4 CMS, which is what the documentary is about, and I used to practice blinding wine every Monday night with a group of 4 guys studying for level 3. The documentary shows what these people go through to be able to do what they do. But it seems like you’ve made up your mind already that it’s all bullshit, so I doubt you’ll actually reconsider the fact that other people may be able to do something that you didn’t think they could do.
@@nathanlaney1542 yes, those are just some randos at a wine event, just because they're there it doesn't mean they're experts. And even experts in an event like this can't tell the difference after tasting so much wine in a row.
@nathanlaney1542 A very late reply, but the reason people don't believe sommeliers is because they have never, in a proper blind test, been able to differentiate an expensive bottle of wine from a cheap one; at most they can recognize wines they have tasted before (and even that is up for debate as in the same testing they will assign different scores to the same wine). Basically it's about as impressive as someone being able to differentiate between coke and Pepsi
Exactly. I work in the wine industry and we blind taste all the time. It can be very difficult, but honestly I've never met a "wine expert" in my life that couldn't identify a shit quality merlot. I've tasted with people that can not only pick out where the wine is from, what the grape is, the quality, but even the VINTAGE occasionally. I tasted with a Som once who lifted a glass of Beaujolais to her nose blind and said "That's from Morgon in Beaujolais and I don't like Morgon." Not only could she tell it was from Beaujolais, she knew which tiny commune (out of 10 communes) only by smell. I don't know where they got these "experts," but if I was hanging out with a group of industry friends and we blinded a 3 euro merlot from the supermarket, if one of them said it was a 25 euro Cab like the one guy, we would laugh them out of the building. So yeah, don't pay much attention to this video, it's not an accurate representation of experts in the field (not even close in my opinion).
I also don't think there's a difference. I can taste the difference between a 20 and 5 euro bottle of wine, but dya know what? I like 5 euro bottles of wine. Sometimes they taste nice.
As a german speaking individual I can understand 60% what they are saying without subtitles. I still cannot understand how people are full of shit when they talk about wine.
Das ist schlecht, denn ich möchte wirklich wissen, wie ein wirklich überdurchschnittlicher Wein schmeckt, ohne einen überhöhten Preis zu zahlen. Ich habe einmal für einen teuren Wein bezahlt und er hat schlechter geschmeckt als ein billiger Wein, den ich gewohnt bin.
I completely agree that people will overreact to just about anything, because it makes them feel special. Even Stradivarius violins were put to the test and most people thought the modern violins, used in the test, sounded better. Hell, diamonds have been pretty much worthless since major deposits were discovered, in Africa, in 1870. De Beers monopolized the industry in 1889 and deliberately withheld hoards of these worthless rocks, to prevent market flooding. Think about it. Even some of the cheapest tools are diamond tipped or coated. Diamonds can be reproduced in a laboratory. Has anyone reading this ever tried to sell a diamond? If you have, you'll have only gotten a tiny fraction of it's retail price. I'd like to see these guys do an episode about that. Ruin diamonds please.
@@baristabrian Or maybe not, maybe some people do know their stuff but you're misjudging them based on the inaccurate representation made by expert wannabes such as the ones in the video. This guy on this clip seems to know this stuff ua-cam.com/video/8OWkkoTgddU/v-deo.html
Each bottle is rotten fruit and poison. Just drink fresh juice. Try different combinations. Develop your own art of telling where the fruit is from by drinking juice (not fermented), instead of becoming a "sommelier" to justify alcohol consumption
Advantages of knowing your wines: -Easier for you to choose because you already know many and which ones you like; -Easier for you to pickup a new one and have some idea of what to expect; -Knowing which wine will actually go well with the food you'll eat; -Laughing at the uncultured plebes when accompanied of your other rich wine drinking buddies as the plebes try to differentiate between toilet water and a merlot. (Obviously the last one is just there for humour) If you like wine do try to find one which suits your taste and to try to choose good wines for each food. Other than that it's just either for your own sense of enjoyment or ambition so as long as you at least try to taste the wine instead of gulping it down like you do with vodka you are already making a good use of it and shouldn't be made fun of for it
smell pretty strong.. sure a wine expert XD it is true that you can have a good wine without spending lot of money (7-15) but are also true other things: -at those prices good wines come from small retailers and u hardly find them at the supermarket -not all the wine can be good at low prices (some grapes need more work and age than others) -3 euros it is a too low price! the price of the bottle, the margin of the retailer, the labour work cost, the price of some tags (docg, aoc, gU). Where u think they invested those 3 euros? in the product care? there are some wine that can be good at 5/6 euros but are sparkling and young -there is difference between drinkable wine and good wine
well wine from morocco cost in europ 0.49 euro and it tast like 40 TO 50 US dolar wine in the state and for labour we are tecnickly slaves in here we work for less than 45 CENT an hour hard work and they sell the same bottle for us for 4 euros and if u get caught with it u spend 2 month in jail yeah a muslim country that produce almost 30 PERCENT of the wine that europ consume sorry for my english
@@TheRealerArbor it's more about placebo effect give people goodish instant and see if they believe it's fresh brewed. If people believe McDonalds disguised as fancy ass food is amazing anything is possible
Wine experts?? Where are they? I see a lot of consumers - and one wine merchant... Nice try to get attention, but unfortunatelly, no validated research.
Out of all the participants you see one recently won Dutch Vinologist of the Year Award. one was a merchant, one was a wine auctioneer, and one was the ceo of a big yearly wine event in the Netherlands
The story of Two Buck Chuck, Charles Shaw in California. He hired a good mixer, went to wine competitions, blind, and won gold medals. Sold it for $2 a bottle. The wine industry HATE him. It's just grape juice. If done right it is good. regardless of who makes it.
Not Shaw, Franzia, a major wine producer. They just bought the Charles Shaw label. And there were no gold medals to be won. They won an award but so did many other wineries who paid a fee to enter the same competition. There were many award winners but nobody "won" any competition.
I think this is really interesting. For one, it proves the cheap wines in some of the budget supermarkets are pretty good. I also think it's easier to spot a cheap white wine rather than red.
Exactly lol. I work in the wine industry, and tasted with a Som once who lifted a glass of Beaujolais to her nose blind and said "That's from Morgon in Beaujolais and I don't like Morgon." Not only could she tell it was from Beaujolais, she knew which tiny commune (out of 10 communes) only by smell. I don't know where they got these "experts," but if I was hanging out with a group of industry friends and we blinded a 3 euro merlot from the supermarket, if one of them said it was a 25 euro Cab like the one guy, we would laugh them out of the building. So yeah this video is bullshit.
Proper? As in, ass clowns who are self-professed "experts?" Ha. You have drunk the Kool-Aid. Feel free to waste your money on ... [wait for it] .... EXPENSIVE wines! Expensive wine is for suckers
I know a wine sommelier who works at a Michelin-restaurant here in Copenhagen. One time we blindfolded him and made him taste a French Cabernet Sauvignon from 2005 and he nailed the region, brand and house it was produced in. And he actually said mid-2000s but guessed '07. Believe me. REAL wine experts know what they're talking about.
I work in the wine industry, and tasted with a Som once who lifted a glass of Beaujolais to her nose blind and said "That's from Morgon in Beaujolais and I don't like Morgon." Not only could she tell it was from Beaujolais, she knew which tiny commune (out of 10 communes) only by smell. I don't know where they got these "experts," but if I was hanging out with a group of industry friends and we blinded a 3 euro merlot from the supermarket, if one of them said it was a 25 euro Cab like the one guy, we would laugh them out of the building. So yeah this video is bullshit.
Wijn en eten allebei. In mijn familiekring zit ook iemand die er van overtuigd is dat smaak komt met een prijskaartje, dus als je 2 glazen voorschotelt en daarna in eens de fles laat zien is het ook eerst "oh deze is erg lekker" en daarna " ja ik dacht al wat raars te proeven"
There isn't enough time between cuts to read the subtitles. Don't @ me telling me to watch it in 0.25 speed. It's a problem with the video editing style of a new clip with more subtitles every 500ms
To me alcohol conventions are a bit cringe… I think weed conventions are a bit too, but much much less than this wine one. The wine industry seems like a history or designer industry… it’s just name brand… at weed conventions the quality of weed and all the facts and information is 100% legit… unlike wine and alcohol they look at colour and taste as a way to grade its price when it varies from batch to batch.
The original price is $80, Since it's Christmas I'll give you a $20 discount! A bottle for $60 but wait that's not all if you get 2 bottles I'll give you another 1 as a present, how's that? From $24 to $120 real quick LOLL
Give any one of those clowns a bottle of MD 20/20 strawberry kiwi with no label, tell them its a new "craft wine" that retails for $500 per bottle and they've been chosen to "review" a free bottle and they'll be shit-hammered and face down in the corner or ditch in 45 minutes. I can drink anything and a hell of a lot of it whether its wine, whiskey, beer, tequila, vodka or anything with alcohol that doesn't start with "methanol" and well into my "drinking career" I bought a bottle of that shit and downed it or most of it in pretty short order and I lost the ability to speak. I was otherwise fine and wasn't stumbling or bumbling or even "mumbling" but I couldn't put a sentence together or even three words together in the proper order to save my life. It was a unique experience and one several "friends" who witnessed it have brought up many times since as one of only a few occasions of the probably hundreds of times they drank with me where I was really "fucked up". And they grant me that I was otherwise all systems go. But the fact that I've rarely been "Speechless" in my life period, am pretty well-read and articulate and am never at a loss for words when something needs to be said and I was clearly getting my ass kicked by the English language I've been speaking since I was 2 or so and reading since I was 4, all made it that much more memorable and entertaining for them. They've also used it to point out my "strong will" when I'm not getting the results I'm working for or looking for because I wasn't about too quit TRYING TO FUCKING TALK LIKE A NORMAL HUMAN BEING until they pretty much formed a "consensus" and as a group told me to just sit down, relax and work shit out non-verbally. For the life of me I still have no idea what it was about that crap. I've literally drank a 12-pack of beer through one of those two-can "beer helmets" with the IV hose suction system in less than 30 minutes and I've drank a case and a half of beer in 6 hours which requires drinking a beer every ten minutes FOR six hours and although I WAS stumbling, bumbling and fumbling drunk after both those performances, I could still communicate that I was really fubbarred in case nobody else noticed. I think that's what I was trying to get across to to those guys after the Mad Dog. PIssed me off that I was too drunk to speak.
well wine from morocco cost in europ 0.49 euro and it tast like 40 TO 50 US dolar wine in the state and for labour we are tecnickly slaves in here we work for less than 45 CENT an hour hard work and they sell the same bottle for us for 4 euros and if u get caught with it u spend 2 month in jail yeah a muslim country that produce almost 30 PERCENT of the wine that europ consume sorry for my english
it's the same thing with bodybuilding. anorexic steroid-users who all look identical but judges pretend like there's actually a noticeable difference between them
what a joke!!!! why the fukk do they buy expensive wine if they cant tell the difference between supermatket wine andso calle high end wine? it is insane!!
I work in the wine industry and we blind taste all the time. It can be very difficult, but honestly I've never met a "wine expert" in my life that couldn't identify a shit quality merlot. I've tasted with people that can not only pick out where the wine is from, what the grape is, the quality, but even the VINTAGE occasionally. I tasted with a Som once who lifted a glass of Beaujolais to her nose blind and said "That's from Morgon in Beaujolais and I don't like Morgon." Not only could she tell it was from Beaujolais, she knew which tiny commune (out of 10 communes) only by smell. I don't know where they got these "experts," but if I was hanging out with a group of industry friends and we blinded a 3 euro merlot from the supermarket, if one of them said it was a 25 euro Cab like the one guy, we would laugh them out of the building. So yeah, don't pay much attention to this video, it's not an accurate representation of experts in the field (not even remotely close). I've seen a few videos on UA-cam where people set out to prove that experts are full of shit, but they almost never have someone who is truly qualified to blind wines like my friend above.
So in the end I believe we all learned a valuable lesson. Drink wine. Also no shit they were not all experts, having fun with the idea that wine must "be" something for you to enjoy it is just a good time. Enjoy the food, the company, the experience and forget the right and wrong of what "must be".
Drinking an expensive wine is a status only in our society. Yes there is a difference between a good and bad wine. In other words good and bad product. You may like certain type of taste and aftertaste but a lot of things about wines and other expensive alcohol such as spirits is purely for business and status. Thank fuck for having an ability to have a high level of common sense and understand this. Hope you all folks in denial or not will come to the conclusion that it's all about status if the price for the product is too high. Like a mac.
People are morons. Wine, no matter how expensive, is nothing but fermented grape juice ffs that is usually aged for no more than 2 years. Whiskey, as comparison, is aged for 10 years, sometimes longer. There is no, repeat, absolutely no reason why fermented grape juice should ever cost 80 dollars, let alone more than that.
An expert would be someone able to recognise a particular wine by it's qualities and not by looking at the bottle. The type of grape, the region, the year, the winery it came from, and also be able to explain why it tastes and smells the way it does: soil composition, wine composition, humidity of the zone it was grown, the grape's maturation, the wine's age and approximate duration of fermentation process, the type of wood barrel it was kept in, if it was well conserved or not and probably some things more. It requires memory, experience, knowledge and sensitivity of smell and taste. There aren't many that you could call an expert but those that you can call it should actually be considered grand masters of wine tasting because it's damn hard to achieve that level. And although hard to believe it there are people able to do all that. Hope that helps
these so called wine testers are too inflated and full crap. the nose and the palate mark only two senses but to truly taste the final ending flavor of any wine should require a tester to swallow an extremely small amount.
Totally agree that these "experts" aren't experts at alI. I work in the wine industry, and I hope I'm not coming off like a jerk (honestly), but you should know your comment is not correct. I've been to thousands of tastings with top level experts from all over the country, and we all spit - every single wine. There are no taste buds in the throat, and all of the phenols, sugars, acids, and alcohol can be identified through the olfactory sense and the palate. Again, hope I'm not being too much of a pretentious dick by answering like this, but swallowing a tiny amount isn't part of tasting at the top levels.
Because of something known as Terroir, which has to do with the environment that the grapes are grown in. There are a lot of factors that influence the grapes, not only the varietal of grape itself, but what is already in the ground, in the air, in the water, etc. They all impact what flavors come out - and it's not just grapes that are impacted by this. Coffee, chocolate, tea, tobacco, and other crops can be impacted as well. Swirling the glass helps to pull in oxygen to increase the "smell" which impacts the taste buds, which I'm sure you are well aware of.
Experts dont know! but, experts can probably distinguish between cheap crap wine and very expensive wine ! wine is really personal preference there is no way to really tell the difference. like anything in life!
So can real wine experts and most wine consumers. I'm no expert and I'll frequently buy a cheap and more expensive bottle of the same varietal to compare. I let my daughter try one tiny sip of each, blind. She can tell every time and she's 12. These were certainly not the only people they filmed.
The German supermarket wine is pretty good. I use it for cooking all the time. :D that's all wine is good for in my eyes. I'll never drink it. It tastes of what it is: rotten grapes. the smell alone makes me sick.
This video proved nothing....Though I do like the fact that they had the industry/punter mix. But who are the "wine experts"? Are they; -Hospo -Merchant -Winemaker -Viticulturalist? etc. Between this group, they'll dissect wines in different ways. And at the end of the day a cheap wine doesn't always dictate that it's going to be worse than anything more expensive.
When I worked on a vineyard, I once asked the owner how to tell a good wine, his response was "A good wine is whatever you like, it varies from person to person".
is that bad?
Agree!
I think it’s sad that a winemaker can not tell the difference between quality and personal taste
Because a wine maker knows the truth. It's all BS and his job is a drug manufacturer nothing more
@@kilianhzh And what exactly is quality when it comes to personal taste? I tried super expensive caviar and pound for pound even more expensive truffles...they both taste like sh*t to me. Truffles had super intense taste I found to be utterly disgusting and caviar almost made me barf.
Years ago I used to be a server at Olive Garden, and when they hire you on, they make you go through a 4 or 5 days "class" where you sample various entrees, appetizers, wines, champagne, etc. We were supposed to try certain foods and then try to pair them with certain drinks. I felt pretty dumb, because everything seemed to go with anything. I just started making shit up, and the guy running the class was like "Excellent choice. Blah blah snobby jibberish blah blah." Lulz.
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You can’t really go wrong with pairing any wine with any food tbh. Even wine experts will tell you that. There’s really only a few things to avoid when pairing wine with food, like not drinking a high alcohol wine with spicy food. Pretty much anything else will taste good
lol...idiots pay anyway....buy a cheap wine, sell it to fools in expensive resturants, love it...they deserve being robbed
Are wine experts full of crap? Let us know what you think with a reply!
One thing for sure is that you guys are. These are either self-proclaimed "experts" or common folk with a false label. You absolutely will not fool an actual professional wine taster with such cheap wine.
great vid, i think some of the cheap wines are really tasty, especially these big bottles of lambrusco. id love to see that kind of test with whiskey. i like to drink some whiskey and i think it makes a difference how long its been matured (that 3y supermarket vs 8+years, tho everything over 15y doesnt differ much), but i think a lot of whiskey drinkers do it for the posh attitude thats associated with it and id like to see if they can differentiate between a good whisky and the fine notes of 4€ booze (also the face when they drink it, because cheap whiskey often tastes like sucking off an iron bar). anyway gr8 vids and greetings from germany
LifeHunters Its interesting how universal it is, and here i am thinking American wines snobs are the only ones full of it, ha!! Good show! xD
Most people you interviewed are not experts. People attending a public tasting are not necessarily experts, just as people watching a race are not race drivers.
I'm a wine professional and I have organized many tastings were I did just this, I scrambeled some cheap bottles among moderate to high priced one. The others (wine journalists, sommeliers..) were practically never fooled and immediately said that the wine is below average. And this is not hard to find out when you taste a lot of wine. Why is cheap wine cheap? Because it is harvested rather carleless with high yields. Easy formula: You can measure how much juice you get from, let's say, one square kilometer of vineyards. If you pick only the best grapes, it will be far less than if you pick ANY grapes. Thus, the wine will be better and more intensive; cheap wine just tastes like red alcohol in comparison.
I quit when my "Sommelier" gave me a "failing" grade for "spitting". Have you tried the new "40s"?
I love that you gave them the bottle in the end. Like, it cost you almost nothing but worth $80 to them!
You are right, madames! And I have the pleasure to offer you five cases of this exquisite vine for a friendly price, 50 eur a bottle, only today!
Wine expert...translation, high dollar con artists.
I work in the wine industry and we blind taste all the time. It can be very difficult, but honestly I've never met a "wine expert" in my life that couldn't identify a shit quality merlot. I've tasted with people that can not only pick out where the wine is from, what the grape is, the quality, but even the VINTAGE and EXACT PRODUCER occasionally. I tasted with a Som once who lifted a glass of Beaujolais to her nose blind and said "That's from Morgon in Beaujolais and I don't like Morgon." Not only could she tell it was from the town of Beaujolais, she knew which tiny commune (out of 10 communes) only by smell. I don't know where they got these "experts," but if I was hanging out with a group of industry friends and we blinded a 3 euro merlot from the supermarket, if one of them said it was a 25 euro Cab like the one guy, we would laugh them out of the building. So yeah, don't pay much attention to this video, it's not an accurate representation of experts in the field (not even close).
@frootjooce Just watch the documentary Somm on Netflix if you want to understand. Or don’t, I don’t really care.
@frootjooce well I can’t put a video record of my entire career in the wine industry on a UA-cam comment, so... I didn’t get all this from watching Netflix man, I have a personal friend who is studying for his level 4 CMS, which is what the documentary is about, and I used to practice blinding wine every Monday night with a group of 4 guys studying for level 3. The documentary shows what these people go through to be able to do what they do. But it seems like you’ve made up your mind already that it’s all bullshit, so I doubt you’ll actually reconsider the fact that other people may be able to do something that you didn’t think they could do.
@@nathanlaney1542 yes, those are just some randos at a wine event, just because they're there it doesn't mean they're experts. And even experts in an event like this can't tell the difference after tasting so much wine in a row.
@nathanlaney1542 A very late reply, but the reason people don't believe sommeliers is because they have never, in a proper blind test, been able to differentiate an expensive bottle of wine from a cheap one; at most they can recognize wines they have tasted before (and even that is up for debate as in the same testing they will assign different scores to the same wine).
Basically it's about as impressive as someone being able to differentiate between coke and Pepsi
This video is dishonest, the only 'expert' said "below 10 euro" the rest were just random wine drinkers.
AlbanZap yup but those wine drinkers pretended to be experts
watch this ua-cam.com/video/5PeKcWCC-tw/v-deo.html
Exactly. I work in the wine industry and we blind taste all the time. It can be very difficult, but honestly I've never met a "wine expert" in my life that couldn't identify a shit quality merlot. I've tasted with people that can not only pick out where the wine is from, what the grape is, the quality, but even the VINTAGE occasionally. I tasted with a Som once who lifted a glass of Beaujolais to her nose blind and said "That's from Morgon in Beaujolais and I don't like Morgon." Not only could she tell it was from Beaujolais, she knew which tiny commune (out of 10 communes) only by smell. I don't know where they got these "experts," but if I was hanging out with a group of industry friends and we blinded a 3 euro merlot from the supermarket, if one of them said it was a 25 euro Cab like the one guy, we would laugh them out of the building. So yeah, don't pay much attention to this video, it's not an accurate representation of experts in the field (not even close in my opinion).
I also don't think there's a difference. I can taste the difference between a 20 and 5 euro bottle of wine, but dya know what? I like 5 euro bottles of wine. Sometimes they taste nice.
@@nathanlaney1542 The moral of the story is: most people who aren't experts don't know shit about wine. But agreed the video is a little misleading.
1:11 - Studies wine for years, sees a cup of red wine: "It's red by all means"
Well see that is what’s called a joke.
She also said, “it’s strong”
Right on Avery
As a german speaking individual I can understand 60% what they are saying without subtitles. I still cannot understand how people are full of shit when they talk about wine.
Das ist schlecht, denn ich möchte wirklich wissen, wie ein wirklich überdurchschnittlicher Wein schmeckt, ohne einen überhöhten Preis zu zahlen. Ich habe einmal für einen teuren Wein bezahlt und er hat schlechter geschmeckt als ein billiger Wein, den ich gewohnt bin.
As an English speaking individual, I didn't know until like 50 seconds in that this was not English and I don't understand 😂 but I'm kind of drunk
yeah they take themselves way too seriously don't they 🤣
I completely agree that people will overreact to just about anything, because it makes them feel special. Even Stradivarius violins were put to the test and most people thought the modern violins, used in the test, sounded better. Hell, diamonds have been pretty much worthless since major deposits were discovered, in Africa, in 1870. De Beers monopolized the industry in 1889 and deliberately withheld hoards of these worthless rocks, to prevent market flooding. Think about it. Even some of the cheapest tools are diamond tipped or coated. Diamonds can be reproduced in a laboratory. Has anyone reading this ever tried to sell a diamond? If you have, you'll have only gotten a tiny fraction of it's retail price. I'd like to see these guys do an episode about that. Ruin diamonds please.
None of those were experts, just consumers.
Consumers who trying hard to be expert
Experts? Ha. The experts are, in fact, clueless.
Expensive wine is for suckers
@@baristabrian Or maybe not, maybe some people do know their stuff but you're misjudging them based on the inaccurate representation made by expert wannabes such as the ones in the video. This guy on this clip seems to know this stuff
ua-cam.com/video/8OWkkoTgddU/v-deo.html
Love watching your videos, love the subtitles! Keep up all the random videos so much fun!!
A true expert first looks the tag of the bottle
Ive never drank Wine in my life, but I can tell you that each bottle costs something over free. How's that for expert analysis!!
Each bottle is rotten fruit and poison. Just drink fresh juice. Try different combinations.
Develop your own art of telling where the fruit is from by drinking juice (not fermented), instead of becoming a "sommelier" to justify alcohol consumption
Advantages of knowing your wines:
-Easier for you to choose because you already know many and which ones you like;
-Easier for you to pickup a new one and have some idea of what to expect;
-Knowing which wine will actually go well with the food you'll eat;
-Laughing at the uncultured plebes when accompanied of your other rich wine drinking buddies as the plebes try to differentiate between toilet water and a merlot.
(Obviously the last one is just there for humour)
If you like wine do try to find one which suits your taste and to try to choose good wines for each food. Other than that it's just either for your own sense of enjoyment or ambition so as long as you at least try to taste the wine instead of gulping it down like you do with vodka you are already making a good use of it and shouldn't be made fun of for it
smell pretty strong.. sure a wine expert XD
it is true that you can have a good wine without spending lot of money (7-15) but are also true other things:
-at those prices good wines come from small retailers and u hardly find them at the supermarket
-not all the wine can be good at low prices (some grapes need more work and age than others)
-3 euros it is a too low price! the price of the bottle, the margin of the retailer, the labour work cost, the price of some tags (docg, aoc, gU). Where u think they invested those 3 euros? in the product care? there are some wine that can be good at 5/6 euros but are sparkling and young
-there is difference between drinkable wine and good wine
well wine from morocco cost in europ 0.49 euro and it tast like 40 TO 50 US dolar wine in the state and for labour we are tecnickly slaves in here we work for less than 45 CENT an hour hard work and they sell the same bottle for us for 4 euros and if u get caught with it u spend 2 month in jail yeah a muslim country that produce almost 30 PERCENT of the wine that europ consume sorry for my english
~10€ wine are cheap so wine expert were right
Ummmm no, none of these people are wine experts. They were just the general public that bought a ticket to a food and wine tasting event.
I think you rather undercut your argument by laughing at the girl who was happy to get the free bottle.
Please do this with coffee experts next
Nah you can taste a difference between shit coffee and good coffee.
But if you dump sugar and creamer in it, you probably won't.
@@TheRealerArbor it's more about placebo effect give people goodish instant and see if they believe it's fresh brewed. If people believe McDonalds disguised as fancy ass food is amazing anything is possible
Wine experts?? Where are they?
I see a lot of consumers - and one wine merchant...
Nice try to get attention, but unfortunatelly, no validated research.
Out of all the participants you see one recently won Dutch Vinologist of the Year Award. one was a merchant, one was a wine auctioneer, and one was the ceo of a big yearly wine event in the Netherlands
Get some lotion for that burn.
so 3 experts.. and only one of them guessed correctly?
Jeroen van Mierlo what’s the matter? Are you one of those pretentious twats?
The story of Two Buck Chuck, Charles Shaw in California. He hired a good mixer, went to wine competitions, blind, and won gold medals. Sold it for $2 a bottle. The wine industry HATE him. It's just grape juice. If done right it is good. regardless of who makes it.
Not Shaw, Franzia, a major wine producer. They just bought the Charles Shaw label. And there were no gold medals to be won. They won an award but so did many other wineries who paid a fee to enter the same competition. There were many award winners but nobody "won" any competition.
This is exactly why I don't buy wine over $15. Most people can't even tell the difference between a cheap bottle and expensive bottle.
I think this is really interesting. For one, it proves the cheap wines in some of the budget supermarkets are pretty good. I also think it's easier to spot a cheap white wine rather than red.
A wine expert is not a wine expert if they don't even know the type of wine it is.
Exactly lol. I work in the wine industry, and tasted with a Som once who lifted a glass of Beaujolais to her nose blind and said "That's from Morgon in Beaujolais and I don't like Morgon." Not only could she tell it was from Beaujolais, she knew which tiny commune (out of 10 communes) only by smell. I don't know where they got these "experts," but if I was hanging out with a group of industry friends and we blinded a 3 euro merlot from the supermarket, if one of them said it was a 25 euro Cab like the one guy, we would laugh them out of the building. So yeah this video is bullshit.
Wat super origineel dit. Nog nooit eerder gedaan dit. En niet eens Sponsored by mcdonalds of Ikea.
I'd like to see this with proper sommeliers.
Those would start a war about exactly what vintage this Lafite is.
there is no such thing
Proper? As in, ass clowns who are self-professed "experts?"
Ha. You have drunk the Kool-Aid.
Feel free to waste your money on ... [wait for it] .... EXPENSIVE wines!
Expensive wine is for suckers
uups.... really.... do you have another job for them afterwards.......
@@baristabrian what people who are too broke to spend $40k on the wine accompaniment say.
Imagine going around with a "white wine" only to tell them it was your own pish!
This is why I continue to buy boxed wine and drink from red party cups on the weekends!
Take up tasting evenings well worth it on every level if you persevere I promise
i like how this video is in french which make it even more delicate
Lmao. I truly hope you're joking...?
lol "french"
I know a wine sommelier who works at a Michelin-restaurant here in Copenhagen. One time we blindfolded him and made him taste a French Cabernet Sauvignon from 2005 and he nailed the region, brand and house it was produced in. And he actually said mid-2000s but guessed '07. Believe me. REAL wine experts know what they're talking about.
I work in the wine industry, and tasted with a Som once who lifted a glass of Beaujolais to her nose blind and said "That's from Morgon in Beaujolais and I don't like Morgon." Not only could she tell it was from Beaujolais, she knew which tiny commune (out of 10 communes) only by smell. I don't know where they got these "experts," but if I was hanging out with a group of industry friends and we blinded a 3 euro merlot from the supermarket, if one of them said it was a 25 euro Cab like the one guy, we would laugh them out of the building. So yeah this video is bullshit.
wrg
Wijn en eten allebei. In mijn familiekring zit ook iemand die er van overtuigd is dat smaak komt met een prijskaartje, dus als je 2 glazen voorschotelt en daarna in eens de fles laat zien is het ook eerst "oh deze is erg lekker" en daarna " ja ik dacht al wat raars te proeven"
Im happy the expert were right, if you spend your whole life tasting wine you should gain some knowledge.
hast du jetzt nen' rot wein aus australien probierte ?
It was a Chateau Petrus 1921, from a huge bottle!
If they were wine experts they know it can be everything between 3 en 20.000 euros... Hahaha
The only thing I pay attention to when buying wine is alcohol content and price!
The wine doesn't even coat the glass! What fools!
Wine snobbery is hilarious. $5 buck chuck can be just as good as a $100 bottle
Rarely ever. I've been to tons of blind tastings and never ever have "supermarket wines" beaten actual quality wines.
A grape is a grape
@@DaveG425 you never tried a $100 bottle
@@LorenzoSignorini-u7t I literally live in wine country. I’ve tried it all.
I believe I could tell the vintage, grape, country! Certainly of reds, most whites. Any price range. Challenge!! :D
I'm so glad I found this channel you guys do some pretty cool and funny stuff
There isn't enough time between cuts to read the subtitles. Don't @ me telling me to watch it in 0.25 speed. It's a problem with the video editing style of a new clip with more subtitles every 500ms
It's just a fact that cheap wines are pretty enjoyable.
Also, they should always taste before showing the bottle
Yeah they are faking it
Clearly not a wine "experts"
To me alcohol conventions are a bit cringe… I think weed conventions are a bit too, but much much less than this wine one. The wine industry seems like a history or designer industry… it’s just name brand… at weed conventions the quality of weed and all the facts and information is 100% legit… unlike wine and alcohol they look at colour and taste as a way to grade its price when it varies from batch to batch.
The original price is $80, Since it's Christmas I'll give you a $20 discount!
A bottle for $60 but wait that's not all if you get 2 bottles I'll give you another 1 as a present, how's that?
From $24 to $120 real quick LOLL
I don’t speak Korean
Give any one of those clowns a bottle of MD 20/20 strawberry kiwi with no label, tell them its a new "craft wine" that retails for $500 per bottle and they've been chosen to "review" a free bottle and they'll be shit-hammered and face down in the corner or ditch in 45 minutes. I can drink anything and a hell of a lot of it whether its wine, whiskey, beer, tequila, vodka or anything with alcohol that doesn't start with "methanol" and well into my "drinking career" I bought a bottle of that shit and downed it or most of it in pretty short order and I lost the ability to speak. I was otherwise fine and wasn't stumbling or bumbling or even "mumbling" but I couldn't put a sentence together or even three words together in the proper order to save my life. It was a unique experience and one several "friends" who witnessed it have brought up many times since as one of only a few occasions of the probably hundreds of times they drank with me where I was really "fucked up". And they grant me that I was otherwise all systems go. But the fact that I've rarely been "Speechless" in my life period, am pretty well-read and articulate and am never at a loss for words when something needs to be said and I was clearly getting my ass kicked by the English language I've been speaking since I was 2 or so and reading since I was 4, all made it that much more memorable and entertaining for them. They've also used it to point out my "strong will" when I'm not getting the results I'm working for or looking for because I wasn't about too quit TRYING TO FUCKING TALK LIKE A NORMAL HUMAN BEING until they pretty much formed a "consensus" and as a group told me to just sit down, relax and work shit out non-verbally. For the life of me I still have no idea what it was about that crap. I've literally drank a 12-pack of beer through one of those two-can "beer helmets" with the IV hose suction system in less than 30 minutes and I've drank a case and a half of beer in 6 hours which requires drinking a beer every ten minutes FOR six hours and although I WAS stumbling, bumbling and fumbling drunk after both those performances, I could still communicate that I was really fubbarred in case nobody else noticed. I think that's what I was trying to get across to to those guys after the Mad Dog. PIssed me off that I was too drunk to speak.
Which language is that it's like German but not really ? ist das richtig oder ?
Nawras Keshreh It's Dutch!
Gerrit van Dijken Thanks for answering
Nawras Keshreh Niederländisch ist vergleichbar mit Deutsch
Nate Barry Yes it is. I'm dutch and I completely understood you. 'Nederlands is vergelijkbaar met Duits.'
well wine from morocco cost in europ 0.49 euro and it tast like 40 TO 50 US dolar wine in the state and for labour we are tecnickly slaves in here we work for less than 45 CENT an hour hard work and they sell the same bottle for us for 4 euros and if u get caught with it u spend 2 month in jail yeah a muslim country that produce almost 30 PERCENT of the wine that europ consume sorry for my english
Too short, but nice.
None of these people are wine experts. LOLOL
Roses are red
Violates are blue
The title is English
The video should be too
Captions are good enough.
oh my god I don't how they don't get drunk
Moet jij zeggen Cesar met je Moët chandon.
Haha! Dat is dus juist een champagne die ik never koop hoor amigo
Is the definition of expert the same as the definition for fraud?
Rudy Kurniawan proved that wine experts are full of shit, and took them to the cleaners for it.
Actually, it was wine experts that were able to discern the fakes and forgeries and help put Rudy behind bars.
1:13 this dude made me cry hahahahahahahaha
The only difference between a cheap wine and an expensive one is the packaging. Simply follow the dictates of your palates. Enough said!
none of this people have tasted some good wine in their whole lifes...
I drink 3 dollar wine and it's great
Prachtig werk heren ik ben een fan geworden
it's the same thing with bodybuilding. anorexic steroid-users who all look identical but judges pretend like there's actually a noticeable difference between them
what a joke!!!! why the fukk do they buy expensive wine if they cant tell the difference between supermatket wine andso calle high end wine? it is insane!!
Are there any legit wine experts? \
Just refer to: "Adam Ruins wine experts" in the search bar
I work in the wine industry and we blind taste all the time. It can be very difficult, but honestly I've never met a "wine expert" in my life that couldn't identify a shit quality merlot. I've tasted with people that can not only pick out where the wine is from, what the grape is, the quality, but even the VINTAGE occasionally. I tasted with a Som once who lifted a glass of Beaujolais to her nose blind and said "That's from Morgon in Beaujolais and I don't like Morgon." Not only could she tell it was from Beaujolais, she knew which tiny commune (out of 10 communes) only by smell. I don't know where they got these "experts," but if I was hanging out with a group of industry friends and we blinded a 3 euro merlot from the supermarket, if one of them said it was a 25 euro Cab like the one guy, we would laugh them out of the building. So yeah, don't pay much attention to this video, it's not an accurate representation of experts in the field (not even remotely close). I've seen a few videos on UA-cam where people set out to prove that experts are full of shit, but they almost never have someone who is truly qualified to blind wines like my friend above.
Haha vermakelijke video weer heren!
its pure psuedo science
What kind of English are they speaking?
Quien aquí por la cotorrisa? 😎🔥
So in the end I believe we all learned a valuable lesson. Drink wine. Also no shit they were not all experts, having fun with the idea that wine must "be" something for you to enjoy it is just a good time. Enjoy the food, the company, the experience and forget the right and wrong of what "must be".
Drinking an expensive wine is a status only in our society. Yes there is a difference between a good and bad wine. In other words good and bad product. You may like certain type of taste and aftertaste but a lot of things about wines and other expensive alcohol such as spirits is purely for business and status. Thank fuck for having an ability to have a high level of common sense and understand this. Hope you all folks in denial or not will come to the conclusion that it's all about status if the price for the product is too high. Like a mac.
Geweldig!
People are morons. Wine, no matter how expensive, is nothing but fermented grape juice ffs that is usually aged for no more than 2 years. Whiskey, as comparison, is aged for 10 years, sometimes longer. There is no, repeat, absolutely no reason why fermented grape juice should ever cost 80 dollars, let alone more than that.
cheap experts
how can you even be an expert of taste, everyone has a different taste geez
An expert would be someone able to recognise a particular wine by it's qualities and not by looking at the bottle. The type of grape, the region, the year, the winery it came from, and also be able to explain why it tastes and smells the way it does: soil composition, wine composition, humidity of the zone it was grown, the grape's maturation, the wine's age and approximate duration of fermentation process, the type of wood barrel it was kept in, if it was well conserved or not and probably some things more. It requires memory, experience, knowledge and sensitivity of smell and taste. There aren't many that you could call an expert but those that you can call it should actually be considered grand masters of wine tasting because it's damn hard to achieve that level. And although hard to believe it there are people able to do all that. Hope that helps
Sounds like German, but at the same time it does really not xD What language is this? :-o I'm confused
kakemann likmann it's Dutch
Watch "Expensive Wine Is For Suckers" on UA-cam.
so pretentious it makes my skin crawl
Lollllllllll this is good
these so called wine testers are too inflated and full crap. the nose and the palate mark only two senses but to truly taste the final ending flavor of any wine should require a tester to swallow an extremely small amount.
Totally agree that these "experts" aren't experts at alI. I work in the wine industry, and I hope I'm not coming off like a jerk (honestly), but you should know your comment is not correct. I've been to thousands of tastings with top level experts from all over the country, and we all spit - every single wine. There are no taste buds in the throat, and all of the phenols, sugars, acids, and alcohol can be identified through the olfactory sense and the palate. Again, hope I'm not being too much of a pretentious dick by answering like this, but swallowing a tiny amount isn't part of tasting at the top levels.
Is there anything on earth as obnoxiously pretentious than wine tasting
english comment
Omg its dutch
Am I the only one that drinks wine just like any other drink? Why you gotta swirl it and smell it? Lol
It helps you identify how long it was aged, how it was raised, etc..
Also if it was contaminated by the cork at all, you'll get a dampy wood smell.
So whst the hell is up with rotating the glass and also smelling it and saying it smells peppery. its wine, a fermented fruit.
Because of something known as Terroir, which has to do with the environment that the grapes are grown in. There are a lot of factors that influence the grapes, not only the varietal of grape itself, but what is already in the ground, in the air, in the water, etc. They all impact what flavors come out - and it's not just grapes that are impacted by this. Coffee, chocolate, tea, tobacco, and other crops can be impacted as well. Swirling the glass helps to pull in oxygen to increase the "smell" which impacts the taste buds, which I'm sure you are well aware of.
Experts dont know!
but, experts can probably distinguish between cheap crap wine and very expensive wine !
wine is really personal preference there is no way to really tell the difference.
like anything in life!
This doesn't seem to be an issue with whiskey. Whiskey experts usually can tell what is more expensive and what isn't on blind taste tests.
So can real wine experts and most wine consumers. I'm no expert and I'll frequently buy a cheap and more expensive bottle of the same varietal to compare. I let my daughter try one tiny sip of each, blind. She can tell every time and she's 12.
These were certainly not the only people they filmed.
Fancy drunks.
Wine expert😂
The German supermarket wine is pretty good. I use it for cooking all the time. :D that's all wine is good for in my eyes. I'll never drink it. It tastes of what it is: rotten grapes. the smell alone makes me sick.
Poor and lame reviewers, a child could've done a better job!
welll video title in english and they speak a diff languag
hot girls.
This video proved nothing....Though I do like the fact that they had the industry/punter mix. But who are the "wine experts"?
Are they;
-Hospo
-Merchant
-Winemaker
-Viticulturalist?
etc.
Between this group, they'll dissect wines in different ways. And at the end of the day a cheap wine doesn't always dictate that it's going to be worse than anything more expensive.
This language whatever it is is the most ugliest language of the entire world
As a Dutch person (language in the video) I personally think German is worse, though Dutch is a close second