For the price, this is the best printer and has excellent touches like the bed probe, encoder filament sensor, insulated heated bed and locking dual adjusters on the bed. Just tune Marlin input shaper and it's unbeatable !!!
Bought one at the introductory $135 price as a present for a novice. We did not even try the 250mm/s as I knew it was hype. It has been performing flawlessly at "normal" print speeds with decent prints. I agree that input shaping, etc. should now be offered standard since no additional hardware is needed. Also agree on the PEI flex sheet - that is the only upgrade I did before gifting the printer. At the introductory $135 price it was a terrific price performance value.
@@thomaspc2 Truth be told I did crank it up while printing a cal cube for several layers for grins and with a little tuning and input shaping it would be able to do functional prints well but you could do that with most 2XXmm bed size slingers. You'd either tune it for speed or for quality but not both on one printer without a lot of setup changes (including changing extruder e-steps) between prints. The real attraction is a complete Marlin-based price/performance with ABL printer that nearly works "out of the box" - I did a FW update, swapped for a metal flex PEI (I like the ones from TH3D), did the initial ABL calibration, and started printing. Then it's just the usual fine-tuning for your favorite filament(s) that you can do from your slicer. I was able to show a complete novice how to use the printer with some tuned up profiles on Cura (using Chuck Hellebuyck's as a starting point). They went home and sliced and printed their first print that same evening. No phone calls since except pics of what they printed. I give it a thumbs up, especially if you can buy this for under $200 shipped. It has become one of the printers I recommend for novices, especially if I become their "support person' which is usually the case. :)
Once again, your review is outstanding and since you used the word in the script, I want to repurpose "rare" to identify your skills. Your reviews are the "benchy" of You Tube. Congratulations. "Now for the cons"; no not about you. This printer should use a Volcano Nozzle configuration or the newer channeled versions; however, this would be but a 'patch'. As a result of your previous Elegoo Neptune 3 review, I purchased one and found it as you described. But hated the single Z axis drive which when powered off always jammed the nozzle into the bed. So, I purchased the Neptune 3 Pro as an "upgrade" and I am so very impressed with it. If you have time, for $230 USD delivered, your review would likely identify to your fans a superb entry level to intermediate level 3D printer: No Touch Auto Bed Leveling, Dual Z axis drive, Direct drive extruder, substantially upgraded menus on the magnetically mounted LCD display, LED lights. It does not try to be a 'fast' printer. Hopefully this comment is not a TLDR.
Its nice to see Sunlu getting into the game. I've been a fan of their filaments and driers ever since I started printing. I'm disappointed that this machine fails to live up to the hype of high speeds but that fact that speed is now a consideration its all good for us. Sunlu needs to do a bit more work on the slicing and hardware. In the mean time I'm watching my XC1 Carbon just rip through prints, its such a great printer I think I'll get a 2nd one
I knew it was too good to be true, a budget printer running at 250mm/s without input shaping or an accelerometer or even adequate cooling for 250mm/s is asking for trouble. But hopefully people thinking of buying this machine will see your excellent review and know what the facts are, when are you going to convince your elusive brother to appear in a video? LOL Maybe when you reach 100K subscribers?
I was expecting the machine to be running the latest version of Marlin which has Input Shaping, so at the highest speeds it should then be able to produce cleaner results. Of course, even then, to truly achieve such high speeds requires a high-flow hotend, well-tuned Linear/Pressure Advance, and very good print cooling. As the maintainer of Marlin Firmware, I can help to produce an improved version of Marlin (2.1.3 or 2.1.4) for the benefit of those who own this Sunlu machine, and perhaps Sunlu will use that as the basis for a firmware upgrade and post that update on their own website. It may not get it up to the touted speed of 250mm/s but it should at least give improved results at the highest speed it can realistically achieve. Thank you for your thorough review and including the helpful firmware upgrade advice to Sunlu. It really helps users when there is an upgrade path that actually improves the value of their hardware.
Hi Scott, this machine deserves some attention - it is a great value for novices as you don't need to buy anything else to get started except filament and a metal flex PEI. It has been printing beautifully for the novice I gifted this machine (see my comment) using Chuck H's Cura profiles. They just called me to say how well it's doing on an ambitious 23 hour print.
Thank you you have made a great review. I am at the moment looking to to buy my first 3D printer. I have just Subscribed to your channel and now checking out your reviews. You are very professional in your approach.👍
Very well done review, you expose the false advertising without killing the messenger, so nice of you. Always detailed and full of information. Good to see and hear you. Thank You very much. Can Input Shaping be added to the 10S Pro????? Dennis
You will need to re-flash firmware to your board and compile marlin from its source (or from one of the many modified versions, like TH3D Unified). Teaching Tech has a good video on this.
There are no miracles. Everything is a 250mm/s printer if you are fine with getting a blob instead of whatever you tried to print. This being said this printer seems like an ender 3 with all the upgrades you might want pre-installed out of the box. I can see this as a viable and cheaper alternative to people looking to get an ender 3. Thank you for the detailed review!
Very good review as always, thanks! Would love to see you do a roundup review of the best FDM consumer printers (say $1,500 or less) you have tested to date that are currently available for purchase. Best aspects including print quality, ease of use, reliability and full feature components (bed leveling, hot end, etc.). Thanks for all you do!
I knew it was to good to be the all perfect 3d printer at such a reachable price. You guys are great and very precise with the information you all provide. I know this isn't printed on this video but where did you get the STL file for the military tank you've printed at an angle on other videos you have done. Thank you for your in depth reviews.
Too many of these ender clones with false speed claims and cheap components. Better off focusing on the higher quality machines. Thanks for your great reviews.
Silk PLA does not like to be printed fast, even on capable printers. PETG is also more sensitive to speeds than PLA or ABS, too fast you will under extrude and possibly jam your hotend, too slow and parts will string, warp and your nozzle will ooze. In these cases your material will be the limiting factor, not so much the printer itself. I do love your reviews, but some comparisons and tests may need a little fine tuning.
My printer keeps on pausing everytime i begin a print. It will work for about 4 seconds then just stop and ive checked tbe clog detection am i doing something wrong? Tried contacting customer service and they havent responded
Excellent review, as always. Could you advise? I have 2 Ender 3's, a Pro and a Max, but I want to print TPU and other flexible filament. Can you recommend a fairly inexpensive printer for this or am I better upgrading one of the Enders to direct drive?
Love the videos, is there any high speed resin printers ? Just subbed a few weeks ago and am watching your videos but I have not found a high speed resin printer.
The Elegoo 8K resin printer is pretty fast, in fact, most Mono resin printers(2K, 4K or 8K) only require 2 seconds for each layer, that's already pretty fast.
They should have used a direct drive at least. It's not even using capricorn on the bowden so from the start it looked to me like it wasn't really going to be that great.
This week, I am testing the Neptune 3 Pro, which is a $230 machine that is almost as good as the Ender-3 S1. Please check out my video, which will be usually posted on Monday.
Please comment on the privacy clauses in the Bambu cloud service . It strkes me as being potentially invasive and is also linked to 3rd party affiliates. Cell phone tracking ,and Browser data is also collected. Should we see this as a problem ??
how can you have something that claims to go that fast and still be using a bowden type extruder + inadequate hotend setup, I get they're trying to bring in something at a low price point to inject themselves into the market but this thing just seems to fall short of what they probably intended it to be. It's one thing to go fast, but to go fast AND print good is something you're not going to get on a budget printer like this. It is nice though to see more saturation in the market, forces other bigger names to compete with pricing while also making more features standard and innovating at lower price points since not everyone can afford a Bambu Labs X1 Carbon.
Okay go buy a bamboo lab or a ankermake if you want to pay for innovation. People that understand consumerism know that existing tech naturally becomes cheaper, not new tech being used on bottom barrel priced products.
@reilly2828 I see what you mean, but that is still an ender style, but with less support. I definitely see what you mean but I was more along the lines of maybe making multifilament printers significantly cheaper, that may be a year or so out, but that is also a feature that the manufacturers can keep expensive.
@@azimuth9819 while it is true that you need to buy new innovation for manufacture's to see its benefits and iterate on it. We need to stop buying outdated printer designs so companies look for innovation that we will actually spend money on. But yea you are right multicoloured printers are very expensive so we do need to buy them so companies will produce more to lower the price.
I love how precise and technical and informative your videos are. You offer excellent reference, thank you very much. I love that 11 hours jeep!
For the price, this is the best printer and has excellent touches like the bed probe, encoder filament sensor, insulated heated bed and locking dual adjusters on the bed. Just tune Marlin input shaper and it's unbeatable !!!
Aurora so professional. She make other reviews look lacking. Her test process so informative
PETG is always a pain to print high speed. Good review.
Bought one at the introductory $135 price as a present for a novice. We did not even try the 250mm/s as I knew it was hype. It has been performing flawlessly at "normal" print speeds with decent prints. I agree that input shaping, etc. should now be offered standard since no additional hardware is needed. Also agree on the PEI flex sheet - that is the only upgrade I did before gifting the printer. At the introductory $135 price it was a terrific price performance value.
Hype is one thing. A lie is another.
I was thinking about buying one. Have you tried it at 100ms?
@@thomaspc2 Truth be told I did crank it up while printing a cal cube for several layers for grins and with a little tuning and input shaping it would be able to do functional prints well but you could do that with most 2XXmm bed size slingers. You'd either tune it for speed or for quality but not both on one printer without a lot of setup changes (including changing extruder e-steps) between prints. The real attraction is a complete Marlin-based price/performance with ABL printer that nearly works "out of the box" - I did a FW update, swapped for a metal flex PEI (I like the ones from TH3D), did the initial ABL calibration, and started printing. Then it's just the usual fine-tuning for your favorite filament(s) that you can do from your slicer. I was able to show a complete novice how to use the printer with some tuned up profiles on Cura (using Chuck Hellebuyck's as a starting point). They went home and sliced and printed their first print that same evening. No phone calls since except pics of what they printed. I give it a thumbs up, especially if you can buy this for under $200 shipped. It has become one of the printers I recommend for novices, especially if I become their "support person' which is usually the case. :)
Would really love a review of the troodon 2.0, basically a prebuild voron 2.4.
My old Artillery X1 can print at 250mm/s too. It's easy, just crank up the speed, and then also just throw the part away just as fast. 😉
Once again, your review is outstanding and since you used the word in the script, I want to repurpose "rare" to identify your skills. Your reviews are the "benchy" of You Tube. Congratulations. "Now for the cons"; no not about you. This printer should use a Volcano Nozzle configuration or the newer channeled versions; however, this would be but a 'patch'.
As a result of your previous Elegoo Neptune 3 review, I purchased one and found it as you described. But hated the single Z axis drive which when powered off always jammed the nozzle into the bed. So, I purchased the Neptune 3 Pro as an "upgrade" and I am so very impressed with it. If you have time, for $230 USD delivered, your review would likely identify to your fans a superb entry level to intermediate level 3D printer: No Touch Auto Bed Leveling, Dual Z axis drive, Direct drive extruder, substantially upgraded menus on the magnetically mounted LCD display, LED lights. It does not try to be a 'fast' printer. Hopefully this comment is not a TLDR.
Its nice to see Sunlu getting into the game. I've been a fan of their filaments and driers ever since I started printing. I'm disappointed that this machine fails to live up to the hype of high speeds but that fact that speed is now a consideration its all good for us. Sunlu needs to do a bit more work on the slicing and hardware. In the mean time I'm watching my XC1 Carbon just rip through prints, its such a great printer I think I'll get a 2nd one
Their driers are misleading. They claim 70C and they only reach about 53C.
I knew it was too good to be true, a budget printer running at 250mm/s without input shaping or an accelerometer or even adequate cooling for 250mm/s is asking for trouble.
But hopefully people thinking of buying this machine will see your excellent review and know what the facts are, when are you going to convince your elusive brother to appear in a video? LOL Maybe when you reach 100K subscribers?
I was expecting the machine to be running the latest version of Marlin which has Input Shaping, so at the highest speeds it should then be able to produce cleaner results. Of course, even then, to truly achieve such high speeds requires a high-flow hotend, well-tuned Linear/Pressure Advance, and very good print cooling. As the maintainer of Marlin Firmware, I can help to produce an improved version of Marlin (2.1.3 or 2.1.4) for the benefit of those who own this Sunlu machine, and perhaps Sunlu will use that as the basis for a firmware upgrade and post that update on their own website. It may not get it up to the touted speed of 250mm/s but it should at least give improved results at the highest speed it can realistically achieve. Thank you for your thorough review and including the helpful firmware upgrade advice to Sunlu. It really helps users when there is an upgrade path that actually improves the value of their hardware.
Hi Scott, this machine deserves some attention - it is a great value for novices as you don't need to buy anything else to get started except filament and a metal flex PEI. It has been printing beautifully for the novice I gifted this machine (see my comment) using Chuck H's Cura profiles. They just called me to say how well it's doing on an ambitious 23 hour print.
Thank you you have made a great review. I am at the moment looking to to buy my first 3D printer. I have just Subscribed to your channel and now checking out your reviews. You are very professional in your approach.👍
Very well done review, you expose the false advertising without killing the messenger, so nice of you. Always detailed and full of information. Good to see and hear you. Thank You very much. Can Input Shaping be added to the 10S Pro????? Dennis
You will need to re-flash firmware to your board and compile marlin from its source (or from one of the many modified versions, like TH3D Unified). Teaching Tech has a good video on this.
Your reviews are amazing. Top quality. Thank you so much for doing these!
There are no miracles. Everything is a 250mm/s printer if you are fine with getting a blob instead of whatever you tried to print.
This being said this printer seems like an ender 3 with all the upgrades you might want pre-installed out of the box. I can see this as a viable and cheaper alternative to people looking to get an ender 3.
Thank you for the detailed review!
Very good review as always, thanks! Would love to see you do a roundup review of the best FDM consumer printers (say $1,500 or less) you have tested to date that are currently available for purchase. Best aspects including print quality, ease of use, reliability and full feature components (bed leveling, hot end, etc.). Thanks for all you do!
I would have like to see speed tests as at 100ms and 150 ms to compare to see if its any better at those speeds than a regular ender
I hope you can make a video of an IDEX for TENLOG 3D
That machine looks identical to the MakerPI I reviewed before: ua-cam.com/video/qcCbfjejMRo/v-deo.html
Newer Subscriber but I am learning alot watching your videos! Would love to see a video of recommendations for people new to 3d printing!
ABS definitely needs cooling if it's printed correctly (i.e. in a heated chamber).
I knew it was to good to be the all perfect 3d printer at such a reachable price. You guys are great and very precise with the information you all provide. I know this isn't printed on this video but where did you get the STL file for the military tank you've printed at an angle on other videos you have done. Thank you for your in depth reviews.
Some interesting upgrades might be in order. Maybe a new hotend and cooling fan setup. What could Klipper do to this printer?
The same that could do to an ender 3!
Slowing intial layers, fixed my issue. No glue stick needed. Try er out.
please make review for SUNLU S9 Plus
Too many of these ender clones with false speed claims and cheap components. Better off focusing on the higher quality machines. Thanks for your great reviews.
Silk PLA does not like to be printed fast, even on capable printers. PETG is also more sensitive to speeds than PLA or ABS, too fast you will under extrude and possibly jam your hotend, too slow and parts will string, warp and your nozzle will ooze. In these cases your material will be the limiting factor, not so much the printer itself.
I do love your reviews, but some comparisons and tests may need a little fine tuning.
maybe review of SV06 Plus?
SV06 is scheduled for May 28.
My printer keeps on pausing everytime i begin a print. It will work for about 4 seconds then just stop and ive checked tbe clog detection am i doing something wrong? Tried contacting customer service and they havent responded
Great video as always
I want to try out this machine so bad
Excellent review, as always.
Could you advise? I have 2 Ender 3's, a Pro and a Max, but I want to print TPU and other flexible filament. Can you recommend a fairly inexpensive printer for this or am I better upgrading one of the Enders to direct drive?
You can try Eryone TPU, I can print it with a stock Ender-3 at normal speed.
@@AuroraTech thanks for the reply. Will give this a go.
Have you ever done a "This is my favorite 3d Printer at these price points $200, $400, $600, etc ..." ?
Love the videos, is there any high speed resin printers ? Just subbed a few weeks ago and am watching your videos but I have not found a high speed resin printer.
The Elegoo 8K resin printer is pretty fast, in fact, most Mono resin printers(2K, 4K or 8K) only require 2 seconds for each layer, that's already pretty fast.
They should have used a direct drive at least. It's not even using capricorn on the bowden so from the start it looked to me like it wasn't really going to be that great.
2:48, 3:28 and 5:25 is she slicing with TPU profile instead of PLA?
As long as the nozzle is 205C, bed is 60C and 100% cooling, it won't be an issue for the name of the profile.
@@AuroraTech thanks for the answer, love your videos 💖 I’ve learned many things
What can you recommend as a basis printer? I know you reviewed Ender-3 V2 Neo, and mentioned that there are better options now.
This week, I am testing the Neptune 3 Pro, which is a $230 machine that is almost as good as the Ender-3 S1. Please check out my video, which will be usually posted on Monday.
@@AuroraTech Thanks! They have a discount until Monday. I think, based on your recommendation, I'll order it now :)
Increase the extrusion
Why do companies churn out these outdated clones?
They are trying to jump on the hype around speed machines like Bambu and Anker probably.
👍@Aurora
Please comment on the privacy clauses in the Bambu cloud service . It strkes me as being potentially invasive and is also linked to 3rd party affiliates. Cell phone tracking ,and Browser data is also collected.
Should we see this as a problem ??
how can you have something that claims to go that fast and still be using a bowden type extruder + inadequate hotend setup, I get they're trying to bring in something at a low price point to inject themselves into the market but this thing just seems to fall short of what they probably intended it to be. It's one thing to go fast, but to go fast AND print good is something you're not going to get on a budget printer like this. It is nice though to see more saturation in the market, forces other bigger names to compete with pricing while also making more features standard and innovating at lower price points since not everyone can afford a Bambu Labs X1 Carbon.
So basically it can make landfill at 250mm/sec 🤣
Just because it has 250mms doesn't mean it's capable or you should
Why bother Sunlu?
Just another clone of a clone of an Ender 3. 🤦
Honestly, it’s 2023 can we get some actual advances in 3D printer design?
Okay go buy a bamboo lab or a ankermake if you want to pay for innovation. People that understand consumerism know that existing tech naturally becomes cheaper, not new tech being used on bottom barrel priced products.
@@azimuth9819 No I mean more like a Kingroon KP3S which offers some change to budged 3D printing enthusiasts.
@reilly2828 I see what you mean, but that is still an ender style, but with less support. I definitely see what you mean but I was more along the lines of maybe making multifilament printers significantly cheaper, that may be a year or so out, but that is also a feature that the manufacturers can keep expensive.
@@azimuth9819 while it is true that you need to buy new innovation for manufacture's to see its benefits and iterate on it. We need to stop buying outdated printer designs so companies look for innovation that we will actually spend money on.
But yea you are right multicoloured printers are very expensive so we do need to buy them so companies will produce more to lower the price.
An expensive paperweight!
This is what you will get if you buy a product from Sunlu, good luck trying to buy a spare part
Again a printer model nobody needs.