Went into a gentleman’s club. Ordered a beer and told the barmaid to send a girl over I was interested in. I wanted to buy her a drink and talk to her. Once seated, a short, fat, old hog sat next to me. I asked the barmaid, what happened to the girl I wanted? She said two Japanese men walked in behind me. She went with them. So, they did the bait and switch on me. The hog rubbed my arm and leg several times. It repulsed me. I will not go in that place ever again.
After 27 years in Thailand I returned to the UK 10 months ago glad I did I've no interest ever going back there l can't see it ever being like pre covid to many years closed down with no help from the government now the Chinese are moving in buying up everything cheap large wholesale markets in Bangkok now totally run by Chinese Time to forget Thailand and move on
I was in Pattaya a few weeks ago and I have to agree. There are a lot of ladies about, some are 40+, and lots of overweighters, probably due to the pandemic and fast food chains. There are still babes in Walking Street but you are looking at 5000 long time. That’s if they give you the time of day.
Mongers have to drop your standards. There is still enjoyment to be had with a reasonable 35-40 year freelancer. The beauties are 5k plus, which is chicken feed for Asian businessmen on short trips.
I'm a lot younger so maybe it's different for me, but freelancer quality and girls in general outside bars in Pattaya seems high to me. I stopped going to bars. It's a waste of money.
i live in Thailand and an old git but just my opition the older girls are better ( not to old ) than the young girls. the young ones just say get on with it and want your money quick
35 to 41 is best age range. Still plenty of hot gals of that age around for LT at good prices. The under 30 s don't interest me at all. Better to be with women who actually enjoy companionship and sex.
Great vlog I've been out in Thailand years and have definitely seen the change in attitude of bar girls Just one small thing do you remember when you first entered any bar you were greeted by a girl giving you a wet sweat towel Now its hard for them to leave there mobile
As an expat living here in Pattaya - here is my advice. Go to a bar/s. Enjoy yourself. Find yourself a girl that you like. Buy her a couple of ladydrinks and get her Line or Messenger off her. Then hookup with her before she starts work or after. This way you avoid the ridiculous barfine prices, you can negotiate a good deal with the girl and have them in your rotation if you choose to do so.
Hey there intothefire. Yeh but can also backfire if she is a damaged type bar girl constantly ringing or telling a sad story or just being an annoying pain for cash..A bit of a hit & miss that can be.
@@kenr2181 Absolutely mate. There is no 100% fool proof method. Always let them know you are a butterfly. This way, they will most likely not break your balls wanting a relationship etc.....
@@kenr2181 All good. You just got to weigh up what you want, how long you are going for and what you want from your trip here in Pattaya. One of my biggest mistakes was barfining girls at bars close to my condo. It's like trying to dodge bullets each time I walk down Soi Buakhao. Another tip right there!!!
@@badhabitz69 Yep thanks for the tip. A good reminder actually. Been visiting Thailand since 2005, maybe 20 trips. but as a visitor only. So always looking to learn what I can to reduce drama & problems on vacation.
I had noticed just viewing online bar, club and street vlogs the quality of Ladies had long since dropped. I guess now the initial excitement will be in the search? The long term problem for Thailand now is if drink, food and hotel prices increase above normal, there will be little reason or attraction for many of the regular and traditional holiday makers to visit?
I agree - it is 100% all about economy. I travelled to Poland in 1990 and the scene was great, but already 10 years later the economy had grown and all girls have found other avenues or married well off Polish men, that did not exist in the early 90's. Exactly the same happened in Ukraine and Russia - great scene in early 2000, but since 2010-15 that has all gone. We can't blame the girls if they prefer to a decent Thai man to marry, and to me seems like there are a lot more of them than 10 years ago.Then there are also more job opportunities that pays reasonably, which was not the case 10-20 years ago. It is evolution and there is nothing much we can do about it, except for some of us who got to live through some of the good times, to be happy about it. And be happy for the girls of course...
I also think younger generations of men are without shame. I used to work in the medical profession and I had several coworkers without any prodding tell me they married working girls. One even had four kids and he adopted them all and even brought her parents to the states as well. The best looking ones don't have to work; they can find fools online to pay their bills or even marry them if they choose.
Been going to Pattaya for 20 years and the quality of bar girls has been in steady decline. The last time I was there, late 2019, it seemed to really take a leg down and there were many obviously older and larger women working the bars, nothing really caught my eye...Heading out again this Dec and I expect the quality to be similar or worse...I think most have gone online now, work when they want and they keep all the money.
@@ronniesmith2499 52 years...6ft 5 and 95 kgs with a 6 pack..I don't drink alcohol its all a lie, and i don't need to rate myself .how about you whilst were here...
@@dcm699 I’d say I’m a strong 6 and a half , with a big pocket and being a Londoner living in Rio de Janeiro living the dream. With women you probably don’t even know exist . That’s not me being rude , people to scared to go to South America. Blows all these women away Thai vs brazilain it’s a miss match . In Pattaya now spreading my dads ashes . So I’d say I’m enjoying life . Where you right now ? Or been in your 52 years ? Hope your happy !
@@ronniesmith2499 I hear Sth America is well worth a visit. I met a lovely Columbian whilst in New York in1995. My Plumber just came back (Columbia or Argentina i think he said) and yes he said better that Thailand. Me in Aust..Happy? well soso, I think the west has had its day really...all the best mate.
Good morning from PP. Yes, very true Ed, the bars are similar here. Lots of ladies here both young and old. The younger ones dont seem as intrested. They work mainly for lady drinks rather than go with a customer. A lot dont want long time fun. And the price has gone up a lot. Seventy,all night and that doesnt include bar fine or lady drinks. The older ones are obviously more clued up and appreciate the customer rather than sit on their phone.
It's mainly about the cost. Twenty years ago you could get something hot for £20 due to the weak baht. Now it's £60, and there simply isn't the same demand at that price
You are right on Easy Ed, there are a few bar owners who have showcased their girls on their vlogs and whew!, they wouldn't get a shilling from me. Just trying to find a girl who hasn't plastered her body with tattoos is difficult to find. That with the Pound dropping like a rock will make it tough for you travelers to score a nice pretty pastry. You're looking good Ed, keep up the good work!!
You make me laugh man !! I went too pattaya in 86 there was 200O marines and things where very loose when they left .. the girls chased us down the street .. it was a unbelievable experience .. sounds like they might be the same girls .. still there !! Ha ha ha .. enjoy your videos .. thanks 🙏
From a quick Google search the birthrate hypothesis seems not true. Personally, I agree with the second hypothesis. Many bars owners have been saying that the girls went back home and have been slow to return. I imagine that there is not only one reason that they were slow to return. One being, as tourists have been also slow to return, there was less demand? Many were also still scared of the Rona. Now the tourist numbers are increasing, all bars are heavily advertising for staff. Even those who were making bank on OF for the past two years have slowly been returning back to the bars.
The birthrate has fallen from 2.11 in 1990 to 1.51 in 2019. Replacement rate is 2.1 so the population is in decline. While the population is declining, I don’t think it’s the main driver of fewer girls in the bars. Probably more to do with what you said regarding “dating” apps and other platforms like OF. Also, we are just coming out of this mess from the last 2.5 years. It’ll probably take another year or so before things start to fill up again.
Just got back from Pattaya. There were beautiful girls literally everywhere. On chatting to them, they are of the opinion that the standard of old grey mongers has dropped significantly. So, sort yourselves out lads. It’s a two way street don’t you know 😉
Make the most of it Eddie, I’m just happy that all the restrictions have ended. I think there will be plenty of life there soon, we all just need to be prepared to pay more for everything. Even flights are far more expensive now, nothing will be like it was pre pandemic. Enjoy your trip, I hope to book mine soon.
hallo eddy , I find girls now online. first on Thai friendly and then later switch to line. Those girls say also, they don't want to go work in bars. When they work freelance, they can sit in their room, find customers and they don't have to sit in the bar all day and drink. If you want to find hot Thai girls, that's the way now and they're cheaper than in the bars . It's very safe because they have an online profile and have to check in with reception in your hotel anyway. It's easy and there are a lot of them to choose out. Next time when you're in Asia, you should really look into that.
I second what you say about TF no middle men like the bars taking a cut via the BF & LD, One can have a lot of fun with a bottle of JW whisky with coca cola and a TF companion... My Tip is always video chat before inviting them to your room, that way you always know what you are getting... Their profile pics could just be well out of date
@@jimmydempsey6857 you have to get the line id from the Person you wanne ad and in the line app is the Symbol to ad a person give in id and then ad then Shows.Up.In your contacts. and you can chat,videolink or telf
I was there in July. It is still brilliant fun in Pattaya. 1000THB for short time on Soi 6 or Soi Chaiyapoon plus 500THB bar fine. Each bar has at least one good looking woman. BUT Walking St is a rip off, 3000 - 4000 THB short time and 1500THB bar fine. Overall I don't know what people are complaining about when there's 1% of the action of Pattaya in their home towns on a Saturday night.
Money is tight for many people. Thailand was once an inexpensive place to holiday, not anymore. That is why some people complain. Obviously you are not affected by the current cost of living increases so go enjoy yourself while you can.
I'm 53yrs old, the only action I get on a Saturday night here in Australia, is video chatting with my ex thai girlfriend in her small Northern town. I send her some food money, but nothing like being there. I dream of escaping woke Australia, to retire in Asia.
@@rickman2267 yes. Me also. 53. I m going to Pattaya for 10 days soon just to see what it is like now. Have not been since February 2020. If it's still ok and I can find sone good value I 'll go back for a month in March 2023. This may be my last trip there however.
I'll be in Nana this Saturday and Sunday night. I'm hoping it will be somewhat busier than it was when I was last there during April. Pretty much after the Novotel on Soi 4 it was like a morgue. The usual bars had plenty of girls working in them, but you're right. There were very few hotties! Majority were average lookswise, but still friendly enough.
You can't even compare the scene today with how it was in the 80's 90's and up until about 2010. The girls are fewer, older, fatter and have hard attitudes about getting the cash from you and leaving your room ASAP. I had many great times over the years from 1986 onwards, now if I ever go to a bar I feel relieved that given the state of the women in the bar I'll save at least 5000 baht, avoid an unpleasant experience and get a good night's sleep. Most of these women are more interested in the Koreans or Japanese than old white men anyway. My go-to place for the last couple of decades was Laos which was great if you were prepared to dig around, very beautiful girls, young and not a tatt to be seen. That scene is also now on the decline as the Japanese cottoned on to it about five years ago. Oh well, I saw the best in Thailand and elsewhere and I should be grateful for that. Issan girls have much better opportunities now and nearly all go to university, who can blame them for not wanting to end up as a hooker?
@@gogadev To give you some idea as to what the value and fun factor was back in the 80s & 90s on a scale of 1 to 10, ten being the best, 80s & 90s was a 10 compared to now I would say is only a 2... Now maybe my age has got something to do with it as I am still only interested in rumpty bumpty partners in their 20s, but not as many of them are not as interested in me unless I can show a much bigger wallet of 1000 baht notes. Back then 100 baht notes was all that one needed
You have hit the nail on the head. Thailand has changed. I have had 35 yrs experience of living in and visiting Thailand and I really miss Thailand of the years gone by. Just before the Pandemic I discovered Colombia where costs were so much cheaper for much the same thing that was available in Thailand and the Colombian currency has devalued against the £ by about 30% over the past 3 yrs. Colombia is not the same as Thailand.... but also Thailand is not the same as it once was...For what I like, Colombia offers far better value
@@JazzFunkNobby1964 Def worth a 2 week visit, but you need to research on the internet before going to know where and how to find rumpty bumpty.... Its readily available and very cheap but in a different way to how it is served in Thailand
#John .Mitch Colombia is not comparable to Thailand. If you've been there you should know that there are other issues which you don't have to deal with when vacationing in Thailand. Just because you get more bang for the buck (pound) doesn't make it a more valuable vacation.
@@vinced5741 One can easily side step those other issues with common sense. I have avoided them and had a very good time... like I said in my post Colombia is not the same as Thailand, but then ~I only went to Thailand for rumpty bumpty which in my experience is no where near as good as it once was and is now far better in Colombia
Hi Eddie yep was there in June did notice a change in bar girls a bit older like you say i opted more for the soapy massage girls loved it a lot and not to expensive.Still great value all in and cant wait to go back cheers mate looking forward to your travel vlogs.
I've been to the Philippines, which was great but decided to go somewhere else cause of restrictions still being in place over there (however just this week seems to be lifted). Going to Pattaya in December for the first time. I'll have fun regardless of bar girls. Let's see what happens. Don't forget there is a whole new batch of girls who will take their chance coming high-season.
Just spoke to my Cambodian 'Street 136' bargirl friend last night who confirmed all the pretty young birds in her bar are getting US$100 minimum per night (+20 barfine) and they are barfined virtually every night. Mainly Chinese customers. Mamma and Pappa back on the farm must be overjoyed ! They are earning more than most average jobs in the Western world.
I have been to Thailand 3 times 2007, 2009, 2011. Everytime I went there less and less young cuties. My good friend who lives there said it is demographics, The rice farmers are not having 5 or 6 kids, maybe 2 or 3. The game is online now, Freelancers. Eddie the Philippines is still pumping them out, good Catholics, lol
The middle class has also been growing so they don't "need" the farang as much as they used to. There's also easier access to education and income as you mentioned with (freelancers)
ed just come to Kampot its the new ex pat bar hopping place and you have Vietnam 40 mins to the right and 2 hrs Thailand to the east, lots of expats Thailand and Vietnam moving here now 60 bars in 300 meter radius
Only fans is where they are at. No need to work 12 hours in a bar getting mauled when they can work from their apartment in front of a camera and watch the money roll in.
May need a change of T-shirt....pique collar may help to stop the spider leg look? The quality of girls in general is going down in towns and bars here...the new world Ed is looming large!
I was there in July. Pattaya. It was pretty good for me...However these days i prefer a nice massage or a short trip at an upstairs room at the bar..Wink! Wink!..😉🏝.. Not that into taking a guest to my room anymore. Maybe customers are changing the way they do thing also?
The quality of women and the amount of tourists was on a steady decline before the pandemic the low seasons were getting longer each year it’s still a good place for a holiday though and you can still find nice looking women you have to shop about though
Ed ; good to see you well and all i have to add is nightlife in thailand wont be the same !!! times change and girls change with it !!! it might not be a shock for newcomers but for those who been coming here for the last 35-40 years we see them; ciertainly the old days were the glory days and they re gone for good. I still go but not as much as i used to and now just for very short times/ oh well , b othing last forever , cheers!!!
'The good old days'! Forget it! It's all history! These days, tats, Botox, silicon, and fat arses! They all need to work however! Just keep away from the 'herd' and move away to other parts of Thailand. The darlings are still around --just just have to 'up your game a bit'!
I take your point mr steady, I’ve been going scince 2008 and seen a slow decline overall..but diamonds can still be found and there are still 100s of bars I’ve been watching a lot of the “walking” type blogs done in the evening and there is still talent around treetown etc I’d be interested to know if quality is any different in the GCs as I’ve never really tried them..something I aim to change on future trips 👍🍺👍
In the late 80s and 90s was a good time for the bar scene. The prices were lower and the girls were less professional. What started the rot or BG inflation amongst other factors was the two week tourist. They'd show up for a short term holiday and throw their money around pay over the odds and push up prices. The BGs became more demanding prices went up and the GF experience started to go out of the window. I always advised ppl to hit the road and head up to IIsaan. There is always and has always been plenty of action at a fraction of the cost, but no ppl just want to go to Pattaya! Another trick is to learn Thai especially for the BG purposes. This will take you a long way and help a lot. But please don't be that annoying farang that sits on the next table and rattles off badly pronounced broken Thai phrases 10 notches too loud in order to try and impress me! Thank you!
@@gogadev Udon Thani in the red light area.. Yes, only tiny compared to Pattaya, but a bit cheaper and you should be able to find someone nice. Also great to experience this rural part of Thailand. Then pop up to Nong Khai. Stunning by the Mekong river and a few girly bars up there also. Enough to keep your bed warm.
Iv'e been chatting with friends that have been to Pattaya recently (plus one lives there) and he said it's fairly bleak regarding pricing and finding quality girls. Lots of bars open and all trying to hire quality girls.....this is the problem. Girls are going from bar to bar trying to get the highest wages and moving on when they find something better....it's led to a bidding war (higher bar-fines). Hearing about some crazy prices, 3000 bar-fines in the gogo's on the weekend, plus 3000 short-time add in a few lady drink. Good news is a good time can still be had, go online and use TF, or go down soi 6. You just have to compare photos of the girls there now on soi six to the photos pre-covid and you will see the quality is way down.
I first went to Phuket in 2010 then went back in 2019, basicly all of patong bars had closed and just walking street was left, Ive never been a fan of walking street so many Eastern block people working and holidaying there now I think the price of alot of things there went up about 140% over 9 years.
I've just got home a week ago and yes your right Ed. I've been going since 98 and seen the decline for awhile even before c-19. The numbers and quality are nothing like they use to be ( except for ladyboys they increased if that's your thing ). I'm comfortable with the older set there is still some good looking ones about and for the most part they will give you a much better experience in all ways. I left the trophy girls to the newbies long ago.
@@seans7228 That is a far point Covid has taken an upward spike with all people starting to come back. Some of the night clubs are shoulder to shoulder perfect for catching covid.
Most of the bargirls in Pattaya are past their best, i wouldn't go with them if it was free. There are a few nice ones. Pattaya really has had it's day.
I looked at air fares to Thailand next month, most come in at around £800 to £1000! And with things still up in the air in Thailand regarding costs and lack of entertainment, i think it's best to leave the place well alone for another year........
Went to khosan Rd on 3 rd of this month . all cannabis bars now every where also popped to nana plaza didn't stay there was quite a few African girls looking for business to ny surprise some very pretty light skinned but felt quite different bit more edgy more young people in the bars etc
I live in Chiang Rai and a couple of times a year head down to the coast. Hua Hin has been my favourite spot for a couple of years now and it has really picked up in the last year or so, with many new bars opening and a good choice of young ladies. And it will only get better.
@@domi9577 I like living in Chiang Rai, it doesn't have the level of tourism that there is on the coast and it's not nearly as expensive. Going to the coast every few months is like having a holiday (I'm retired!) and I enjoy something different every so often.
Thailand is my favourite destination, ladies was main reason I went there first...but soooo much more than just bars to Thailand...Thailand ladies deserve all they can get...reduce the time spent in expensive bars/ladies,, hire a bike, walk most of the time....get fit, you might even get a discount with the ladies...
I did say that online streaming from the bars that the bar owners would regret it in the long run as mugs was sending ridiculous money to them over the stream the girls have thought why work in bars just go back to the village and do only fans from there
Purely a subjective matter. One man's stunner is another man's fugly. If we all liked the same girls there would be fighting in the bars. I've been twice this year to Pattaya and more recently Udon which is nearer to where I live and I've found more than enough to satisfy my taste. If you want what some people describe as the 9s or 10s just go the GG bars but be prepared to pay up big baht for the pleasure.
The reason why attractive Thailand women are not working at bars anymore is because of OnlyFans and the large amount of simps sending them money through dating apps and majority of attractive Thai women stay a few month build a roster of foreigners also sending money . This then makes it so attractive Thailand Bar Women tell the bars to pay them more if they want her to stay so this then makes the bar prices to go up. So eventually the quality of the bar women will go lower and the bar will end up closing down in the future. I don’t see men paying more than 50$ or more dollars in Thailand for lower quality women when they can just go to South America or other parts of Asia.💯🤷🏻♂️
"Dating" apps have made more girls to lean towards freelancing. Same if not better pay and they can work when the want to. Make their own hours. Also having the stigma of being a working girl. Young women care more of what other think of them. That's why you are seeing more and more older women. Becuase they care less of the stigma
I was in Pattaya about 2months ago and it was very hard to find a looker most are very average or covered in tattoos. In the past there used to be stunning girls in Pattaya but not anymore there are still some around but you have to look hard to find them.
You need to visit one of the Gentlemens Clubs - many of them all over Pattaya- around 1,000 - 1,500 short time plus around 400 baht for the room upstairs and that includes bar fine. Check out Daz’s channel at Everything Pattaya - he has shown many Gentlemens Clubs on his channel and always lets you know the prices, where most other Pattaya vloggers dont 😊🙏🇬🇧
5 of the 8 Air Bases the US used in the Vietnam war were in Isaan. There is an interesting article with plenty of photos you will find if you put in BANGKOK EYES MIDNIGHT HOUR UDORN IN THE 60’s & 70’s.
Hey Ed, great vid as always, I know your an experienced traveler, however, some advice, get rid of the 'Daddy long legs spiders' that have made home under your T-Shirt, there are so many there now bud, they are trying to escape, they will scare off any young bar girl. 😁🤣
Hello Ed. The real pretty girls do not need to work in bars anymore now days the are on social media with many Farangs sending them money. I live in Pattaya been here many years now i go out in the bars i find it all so boring maybe i have been here to long lol.
I arrived in Pattaya 8 november after 3 years with social media and the internet the girls have caught up with the western world it's a granny's everywhere it's not for me the standards now has drop only in walking street in hot ago bars were you get younger girls from 20 to 28 but you pay up to 1500 bar fine plus 5 thousand baht a night if you want quality in Pattaya you pay the asking price
Thailand moves towards first-world status - 7 years ago, while I was trailing my ladyboy around, I traveled from Ao Nang to Udon Thani (far south to far north) of Thailand. What struck me the most was just how middle-class urban Thailand had become (even then). Young people, especially, are educated often to university level and grow up in comfortable, middle-class suburbs. Thailand didn't stay locked in the 70s or 80s - like most rapidly-developing nations in SE Asia, it shot forward, elevated its economy, living standards, GDP, and - most importantly in this context - the aspirations and expectations of its people. The old, romtaticised notion of Thailand is rapidly disappearing (all but gone, really). Naturally, the vast majority of ordinary middle-class Thais don't like the seediness, the bar girls, the reputation certain places have for sex tourism, etc. Who would? Look how here in the UK prostitution (and that is what we're discussing here) was all but eliminated from public view. I can (just) remember when a walk through Old Compton Street (Soho, London) might have revealed the visible presence of prostitution. These days - not at all. All heavily regulated bars, buzzing gay scene (but corporatised). And there is one other thing, Eddie. We all got older. I think back to my last sojourn to SE Asia (Saigon, Vietnam). I was 56 then. In my head I was 30. Of course, I had a great time with a very pleasant young man (29), and - as usual - lost myself in that familiar dream-state of self-indulgence and delusion that SE Asia induces in so many Westerners. But now I look back at that (as so often before) and wonder what did that good-looking young Vietnamese man see in me (nearly twice his age)..? It was all a ridiculous - albeit beautiful - fiction. That's the lure and the folly of SE Asia.
It was all a ridiculous - albeit beautiful - fiction. That's the lure and the folly of SE Asia. Exactly. So well put. Some people realise that and enjoy it as far as they can for what it is and others stay stuck in a fantasy land where they are Brad Pitt.
The starving girls are being shortchanged by bar owners with strict rules even to talk to a girl required two drinks 400 b+ .No incentive to go to some of the empty bars that are overcharging .I paid £100+ for a dumpling ! That is ridiculous . Get it cheaper in UK .
Great to see you are losing weight my friend, through dieting with the right foods and not being hungry is the most effective way maybe think about SM light when you get here half the calories and just as strong as Leo etc...keep up the good work....
My first trip was in 1997. It was paradise, hot ladies everywhere. More a** than you could shake a stick at. It's been about 10 years since my last trip. I noticed that at least for BKK, there seemed to be fewer lookers than before. You really had to shop around. The average annual income per capita is about $4k, up about 10 times from the 80's. The girls can still make a lot more working the bars. I also found that the birth rate has gone from 6 in the 80's and 90's, to 1 or 2 currently. That's means a lot fewer girls in the pool. Everything changes.
We were out about here last night .. went everywhere Soi 6, LK ... Walking and there's plenty of hot ones of all ages... so many places that actually had so many girls and hardly any customers... I saw a post the other day from some bloke saying was struggling to hook up °!!. I was amazed to read this... there's everything available for everyone...
Went into a gentleman’s club. Ordered a beer and told the barmaid to send a girl over I was interested in. I wanted to buy her a drink and talk to her. Once seated, a short, fat, old hog sat next to me. I asked the barmaid, what happened to the girl I wanted? She said two Japanese men walked in behind me. She went with them. So, they did the bait and switch on me. The hog rubbed my arm and leg several times. It repulsed me. I will not go in that place ever again.
Older Thai women are still preferable to women the same age here in the UK.
The quality of bar girls have gone right down hill in pattaya, how the bloody hell they charge is a joke 😳
After 27 years in Thailand I returned to the UK 10 months ago glad I did I've no interest ever going back there l can't see it ever being like pre covid to many years closed down with no help from the government now the Chinese are moving in buying up everything cheap large wholesale markets in Bangkok now totally run by Chinese Time to forget Thailand and move on
I was in Pattaya a few weeks ago and I have to agree. There are a lot of ladies about, some are 40+, and lots of overweighters, probably due to the pandemic and fast food chains. There are still babes in Walking Street but you are looking at 5000 long time. That’s if they give you the time of day.
re. hope so for 5 grand(s) ... W.K.Patya is overconsuming itself (!)
Mongers have to drop your standards. There is still enjoyment to be had with a reasonable 35-40 year freelancer.
The beauties are 5k plus, which is chicken feed for Asian businessmen on short trips.
@@macadaweg3219 Ther'll always be fresh meat popping up in Patts. 😆😂🤣
and all the alchohol they sweallow daily from costuemrs.. plus they dont want to move their bodies..
@@macadaweg3219 no.
Hi Eddie, I wonder how the girls rate the punters? Rough, dead rough or completely unf***able?
I'm a lot younger so maybe it's different for me, but freelancer quality and girls in general outside bars in Pattaya seems high to me. I stopped going to bars. It's a waste of money.
Age makes a hell of a difference. Others will say only money matters. Good that you have found your path.
Definitely better bang for buck outside the bars.
Its not prime beef anymore more like a stew with dumplings
Well said!
i live in Thailand and an old git but just my opition the older girls are better ( not to old ) than the young girls. the young ones just say get on with it and want your money quick
I like the MILFS, too. Usually less drama than the younger ladies.
35 to 41 is best age range. Still plenty of hot gals of that age around for LT at good prices. The under 30 s don't interest me at all. Better to be with women who actually enjoy companionship and sex.
Great vlog I've been out in Thailand years and have definitely seen the change in attitude of bar girls Just one small thing do you remember when you first entered any bar you were greeted by a girl giving you a wet sweat towel Now its hard for them to leave there mobile
The girls have gone back to the villages and sent their mum’s back to replace them…..
As an expat living here in Pattaya - here is my advice. Go to a bar/s. Enjoy yourself. Find yourself a girl that you like. Buy her a couple of ladydrinks and get her Line or Messenger off her. Then hookup with her before she starts work or after. This way you avoid the ridiculous barfine prices, you can negotiate a good deal with the girl and have them in your rotation if you choose to do so.
Hey there intothefire. Yeh but can also backfire if she is a damaged type bar girl constantly ringing or telling a sad story or just being an annoying pain for cash..A bit of a hit & miss that can be.
@@kenr2181 Absolutely mate. There is no 100% fool proof method. Always let them know you are a butterfly. This way, they will most likely not break your balls wanting a relationship etc.....
@@badhabitz69 That makes sense, good advice 👌 Cheers for that👍
@@kenr2181 All good. You just got to weigh up what you want, how long you are going for and what you want from your trip here in Pattaya. One of my biggest mistakes was barfining girls at bars close to my condo. It's like trying to dodge bullets each time I walk down Soi Buakhao. Another tip right there!!!
@@badhabitz69 Yep thanks for the tip. A good reminder actually. Been visiting Thailand since 2005, maybe 20 trips. but as a visitor only. So always looking to learn what I can to reduce drama & problems on vacation.
I've just retired and started at the gym. 20 minutes on the treadmill does me in. Oh well you give me inspiration. Love your videos.
I had noticed just viewing online bar, club and street vlogs the quality of Ladies had long since dropped.
I guess now the initial excitement will be in the search?
The long term problem for Thailand now is if drink, food and hotel prices increase above normal, there will be little reason or attraction for many of the regular and traditional holiday makers to visit?
Alcoholic drink prices in the bars are already near Western prices and have been for years.
I agree - it is 100% all about economy. I travelled to Poland in 1990 and the scene was great, but already 10 years later the economy had grown and all girls have found other avenues or married well off Polish men, that did not exist in the early 90's. Exactly the same happened in Ukraine and Russia - great scene in early 2000, but since 2010-15 that has all gone. We can't blame the girls if they prefer to a decent Thai man to marry, and to me seems like there are a lot more of them than 10 years ago.Then there are also more job opportunities that pays reasonably, which was not the case 10-20 years ago. It is evolution and there is nothing much we can do about it, except for some of us who got to live through some of the good times, to be happy about it. And be happy for the girls of course...
Price of air fares to Thailand is out of control
I also think younger generations of men are without shame. I used to work in the medical profession and I had several coworkers without any prodding tell me they married working girls. One even had four kids and he adopted them all and even brought her parents to the states as well. The best looking ones don't have to work; they can find fools online to pay their bills or even marry them if they choose.
Been going to Pattaya for 20 years and the quality of bar girls has been in steady decline. The last time I was there, late 2019, it seemed to really take a leg down and there were many obviously older and larger women working the bars, nothing really caught my eye...Heading out again this Dec and I expect the quality to be similar or worse...I think most have gone online now, work when they want and they keep all the money.
Quality has steadily declined since the arrival of the smart phone. The difference in quality is like night and day.
Amd how old are you ??? And what do you give yourself outta 10 . Then look at it again
@@ronniesmith2499 52 years...6ft 5 and 95 kgs with a 6 pack..I don't drink alcohol its all a lie, and i don't need to rate myself .how about you whilst were here...
@@dcm699 I’d say I’m a strong 6 and a half , with a big pocket and being a Londoner living in Rio de Janeiro living the dream. With women you probably don’t even know exist . That’s not me being rude , people to scared to go to South America. Blows all these women away Thai vs brazilain it’s a miss match . In Pattaya now spreading my dads ashes . So I’d say I’m enjoying life . Where you right now ? Or been in your 52 years ? Hope your happy !
@@ronniesmith2499 I hear Sth America is well worth a visit. I met a lovely Columbian whilst in New York in1995. My Plumber just came back (Columbia or Argentina i think he said) and yes he said better that Thailand. Me in Aust..Happy? well soso, I think the west has had its day really...all the best mate.
That beard on the back of your neck needs a trim.
Good morning from PP.
Yes, very true Ed, the bars are similar here. Lots of ladies here both young and old. The younger ones dont seem as intrested. They work mainly for lady drinks rather than go with a customer. A lot dont want long time fun. And the price has gone up a lot. Seventy,all night and that doesnt include bar fine or lady drinks. The older ones are obviously more clued up and appreciate the customer rather than sit on their phone.
Chinese have ruined Cambodia.
The times they are a changin, as Dylan sang! Thanks for your info, Steve.
It's mainly about the cost. Twenty years ago you could get something hot for £20 due to the weak baht. Now it's £60, and there simply isn't the same demand at that price
You are right on Easy Ed, there are a few bar owners who have showcased their girls on their vlogs and whew!, they wouldn't get a shilling from me. Just trying to find a girl who hasn't plastered her body with tattoos is difficult to find. That with the Pound dropping like a rock will make it tough for you travelers to score a nice pretty pastry. You're looking good Ed, keep up the good work!!
You make me laugh man !! I went too pattaya in 86 there was 200O marines and things where very loose when they left .. the girls chased us down the street .. it was a unbelievable experience .. sounds like they might be the same girls .. still there !! Ha ha ha .. enjoy your videos .. thanks 🙏
Might aswel go get one straight from village
From a quick Google search the birthrate hypothesis seems not true. Personally, I agree with the second hypothesis. Many bars owners have been saying that the girls went back home and have been slow to return. I imagine that there is not only one reason that they were slow to return. One being, as tourists have been also slow to return, there was less demand? Many were also still scared of the Rona. Now the tourist numbers are increasing, all bars are heavily advertising for staff. Even those who were making bank on OF for the past two years have slowly been returning back to the bars.
The birthrate has fallen from 2.11 in 1990 to 1.51 in 2019. Replacement rate is 2.1 so the population is in decline. While the population is declining, I don’t think it’s the main driver of fewer girls in the bars. Probably more to do with what you said regarding “dating” apps and other platforms like OF. Also, we are just coming out of this mess from the last 2.5 years. It’ll probably take another year or so before things start to fill up again.
Alot of them got knocked up but this time decided to stay with their Thai BF
Thailand birth rate plummeted from 5.6 Kids per woman in 1970 to 2.1 Kids in 1990 & is currently 1.5.
Love these videos. Listening to them is now helping direct me what to expect & where to go on my next overseas vacation.
Thanks, mate.
Just got back from Pattaya. There were beautiful girls literally everywhere. On chatting to them, they are of the opinion that the standard of old grey mongers has dropped significantly. So, sort yourselves out lads. It’s a two way street don’t you know 😉
I've also just got back from pattaya, and yes there was beautiful girls everywhere, and your spot on about the standard of the tourists.
Well said 👏
well my bird for a couple of weeks was 42 but im 65 so enjoy
Glad you had your fun, mate.
The girls might have gone downhill, but so have I! Still plenty of fun to be had.
Hahahaaaa, the best coment, hugs from Serbian brother in Miami.
Make the most of it Eddie, I’m just happy that all the restrictions have ended. I think there will be plenty of life there soon, we all just need to be prepared to pay more for everything. Even flights are far more expensive now, nothing will be like it was pre pandemic. Enjoy your trip, I hope to book mine soon.
hallo eddy , I find girls now online. first on Thai friendly and then later switch to line. Those girls say also, they don't want to go work in bars. When they work freelance, they can sit in their room, find customers and they don't have to sit in the bar all day and drink. If you want to find hot Thai girls, that's the way now and they're cheaper than in the bars . It's very safe because they have an online profile and have to check in with reception in your hotel anyway. It's easy and there are a lot of them to choose out. Next time when you're in Asia, you should really look into that.
I second what you say about TF no middle men like the bars taking a cut via the BF & LD, One can have a lot of fun with a bottle of JW whisky with coca cola and a TF companion... My Tip is always video chat before inviting them to your room, that way you always know what you are getting... Their profile pics could just be well out of date
@@JohnMitch that's way you go to line so you get them live
@@rudolfjacobs5793 How do l get my line set up Rudolph ? my grandson put the app up for me, is it something to do with getting a password. 👍
@@jimmydempsey6857 you have to get the line id from the Person you wanne ad and in the line app is the Symbol to ad a person give in id and then ad then Shows.Up.In your contacts. and you can chat,videolink or telf
Is it cheaper when u ring or connect with them ? so there's no password involved then......cheers Rudy 👍
I was there in July. It is still brilliant fun in Pattaya. 1000THB for short time on Soi 6 or Soi Chaiyapoon plus 500THB bar fine. Each bar has at least one good looking woman. BUT Walking St is a rip off, 3000 - 4000 THB short time and 1500THB bar fine.
Overall I don't know what people are complaining about when there's 1% of the action of Pattaya in their home towns on a Saturday night.
Money is tight for many people. Thailand was once an inexpensive place to holiday, not anymore. That is why some people complain. Obviously you are not affected by the current cost of living increases so go enjoy yourself while you can.
I'm 53yrs old, the only action I get on a Saturday night here in Australia, is video chatting with my ex thai girlfriend in her small Northern town. I send her some food money, but nothing like being there. I dream of escaping woke Australia, to retire in Asia.
@@rickman2267 yes. Me also. 53. I m going to Pattaya for 10 days soon just to see what it is like now. Have not been since February 2020. If it's still ok and I can find sone good value I 'll go back for a month in March 2023. This may be my last trip there however.
Cold worn out trollops sounds like the customers to me 😁
Lol
I'll be in Nana this Saturday and Sunday night. I'm hoping it will be somewhat busier than it was when I was last there during April. Pretty much after the Novotel on Soi 4 it was like a morgue. The usual bars had plenty of girls working in them, but you're right. There were very few hotties! Majority were average lookswise, but still friendly enough.
is that all you think about in thailand they might be some gils but theres a lot of perverts as well
Bangers is not the same vibe as before fun has gone unfortunately
You can't even compare the scene today with how it was in the 80's 90's and up until about 2010. The girls are fewer, older, fatter and have hard attitudes about getting the cash from you and leaving your room ASAP. I had many great times over the years from 1986 onwards, now if I ever go to a bar I feel relieved that given the state of the women in the bar I'll save at least 5000 baht, avoid an unpleasant experience and get a good night's sleep. Most of these women are more interested in the Koreans or Japanese than old white men anyway. My go-to place for the last couple of decades was Laos which was great if you were prepared to dig around, very beautiful girls, young and not a tatt to be seen. That scene is also now on the decline as the Japanese cottoned on to it about five years ago. Oh well, I saw the best in Thailand and elsewhere and I should be grateful for that. Issan girls have much better opportunities now and nearly all go to university, who can blame them for not wanting to end up as a hooker?
I think you and I are in the same boat My experience s of Thailand began in the mid 1980's too and I concur exactly with what you say
@@JohnMitch Im not that old, but you guys are lucky that you lived in a very good era of Thailand, which I doubt well ever return.
@@gogadev To give you some idea as to what the value and fun factor was back in the 80s & 90s on a scale of 1 to 10, ten being the best, 80s & 90s was a 10 compared to now I would say is only a 2... Now maybe my age has got something to do with it as I am still only interested in rumpty bumpty partners in their 20s, but not as many of them are not as interested in me unless I can show a much bigger wallet of 1000 baht notes. Back then 100 baht notes was all that one needed
Yep that's were the cash is
You have hit the nail on the head. Thailand has changed. I have had 35 yrs experience of living in and visiting Thailand and I really miss Thailand of the years gone by. Just before the Pandemic I discovered Colombia where costs were so much cheaper for much the same thing that was available in Thailand and the Colombian currency has devalued against the £ by about 30% over the past 3 yrs. Colombia is not the same as Thailand.... but also Thailand is not the same as it once was...For what I like, Colombia offers far better value
Is it worth a two week visit or do you need to be living there?
Thanks for your info, John
@@JazzFunkNobby1964 Def worth a 2 week visit, but you need to research on the internet before going to know where and how to find rumpty bumpty.... Its readily available and very cheap but in a different way to how it is served in Thailand
#John .Mitch Colombia is not comparable to Thailand. If you've been there you should know that there are other issues which you don't have to deal with when vacationing in Thailand. Just because you get more bang for the buck (pound) doesn't make it a more valuable vacation.
@@vinced5741 One can easily side step those other issues with common sense. I have avoided them and had a very good time... like I said in my post Colombia is not the same as Thailand, but then ~I only went to Thailand for rumpty bumpty which in my experience is no where near as good as it once was and is now far better in Colombia
Hi Eddie yep was there in June did notice a change in bar girls a bit older like you say i opted more for the soapy massage girls loved it a lot and not to expensive.Still great value all in and cant wait to go back cheers mate looking forward to your travel vlogs.
Thanks for the info
I've been to the Philippines, which was great but decided to go somewhere else cause of restrictions still being in place over there (however just this week seems to be lifted). Going to Pattaya in December for the first time. I'll have fun regardless of bar girls. Let's see what happens. Don't forget there is a whole new batch of girls who will take their chance coming high-season.
Where are the Cherry girls in Manila or some good spots? What about Visaya like Cebu? How many P for a bar girl now?
Just spoke to my Cambodian 'Street 136' bargirl friend last night who confirmed all the pretty young birds in her bar are getting US$100 minimum per night (+20 barfine) and they are barfined virtually every night. Mainly Chinese customers.
Mamma and Pappa back on the farm must be overjoyed ! They are earning more than most average jobs in the Western world.
Thanks for your info.
The Chinese are still locked down ?.
@@alistairnewton8898 they can travel with quarantine. 1 week.
I have been to Thailand 3 times 2007, 2009, 2011. Everytime I went there less and less young cuties. My good friend who lives there said it is demographics, The rice farmers are not having 5 or 6 kids, maybe 2 or 3. The game is online now, Freelancers. Eddie the Philippines is still pumping them out, good Catholics, lol
The middle class has also been growing so they don't "need" the farang as much as they used to. There's also easier access to education and income as you mentioned with (freelancers)
Lovely video. You made me laugh when you talked about "tired old ladies" in the bars 😁
ed just come to Kampot its the new ex pat bar hopping place and you have Vietnam 40 mins to the right and 2 hrs Thailand to the east, lots of expats Thailand and Vietnam moving here now
60 bars in 300 meter radius
Are the flights still astronomicaly high I can’t see anything direct under 1400 on netflights thanks eddy
top video mate to the point and on the button
Thanks, Brian.
Only fans is where they are at. No need to work 12 hours in a bar getting mauled when they can work from their apartment in front of a camera and watch the money roll in.
Obviously Eddie you are God’s gift too women....😢
May need a change of T-shirt....pique collar may help to stop the spider leg look?
The quality of girls in general is going down in towns and bars here...the new world Ed is looming large!
I was there in July. Pattaya. It was pretty good for me...However these days i prefer a nice massage or a short trip at an upstairs room at the bar..Wink! Wink!..😉🏝..
Not that into taking a guest to my room anymore.
Maybe customers are changing the way they do thing also?
The quality of women and the amount of tourists was on a steady decline before the pandemic the low seasons were getting longer each year it’s still a good place for a holiday though and you can still find nice looking women you have to shop about though
Bars in the 80s much better than todays
Ed ; good to see you well and all i have to add is nightlife in thailand wont be the same !!! times change and girls change with it !!! it might not be a shock for newcomers but for those who been coming here for the last 35-40 years we see them; ciertainly the old days were the glory days and they re gone for good. I still go but not as much as i used to and now just for very short times/ oh well , b
othing last forever , cheers!!!
I am not sure why people say there are not enough girls because most bars have many girls sitting around and few customers.
'The good old days'! Forget it! It's all history! These days, tats, Botox, silicon, and fat arses! They all need to work however! Just keep away from the 'herd' and move away to other parts of Thailand. The darlings are still around --just just have to 'up your game a bit'!
Perfect I love those old shanks!
I take your point mr steady, I’ve been going scince 2008 and seen a slow decline overall..but diamonds can still be found and there are still 100s of bars
I’ve been watching a lot of the “walking” type blogs done in the evening and there is still talent around treetown etc
I’d be interested to know if quality is any different in the GCs as I’ve never really tried them..something I aim to change on future trips 👍🍺👍
In the late 80s and 90s was a good time for the bar scene. The prices were lower and the girls were less professional. What started the rot or BG inflation amongst other factors was the two week tourist. They'd show up for a short term holiday and throw their money around pay over the odds and push up prices. The BGs became more demanding prices went up and the GF experience started to go out of the window.
I always advised ppl to hit the road and head up to IIsaan. There is always and has always been plenty of action at a fraction of the cost, but no ppl just want to go to Pattaya!
Another trick is to learn Thai especially for the BG purposes. This will take you a long way and help a lot. But please don't be that annoying farang that sits on the next table and rattles off badly pronounced broken Thai phrases 10 notches too loud in order to try and impress me!
Thank you!
You can't be that smart if you're advising people to head off to Isaan on their two week holiday.
Are you talking about Udan Thani, Issan?
Definitely not a 'fraction of the cost' in Isaan, but yes, it is a bit cheaper for FAR less variety.
@@macadaweg3219 So where in isaan? Ive seen some videos, and looks a bit deserted. Any Particular place you recommend in Isaan?
@@gogadev Udon Thani in the red light area.. Yes, only tiny compared to Pattaya, but a bit cheaper and you should be able to find someone nice. Also great to experience this rural part of Thailand.
Then pop up to Nong Khai. Stunning by the Mekong river and a few girly bars up there also. Enough to keep your bed warm.
Thanks for the update steady skinny Eddie
Iv'e been chatting with friends that have been to Pattaya recently (plus one lives there) and he said it's fairly bleak regarding pricing and finding quality girls. Lots of bars open and all trying to hire quality girls.....this is the problem. Girls are going from bar to bar trying to get the highest wages and moving on when they find something better....it's led to a bidding war (higher bar-fines). Hearing about some crazy prices, 3000 bar-fines in the gogo's on the weekend, plus 3000 short-time add in a few lady drink. Good news is a good time can still be had, go online and use TF, or go down soi 6. You just have to compare photos of the girls there now on soi six to the photos pre-covid and you will see the quality is way down.
Thanks for your info, Jack
What’s tf?
@@008overrated ThaiFriendly app - meant to be just for dating, but a lot of freelancers use it too.
@@user-lb4tt8ve8m Thanks. ..Why didn’t he bloody just say that.
I first went to Phuket in 2010 then went back in 2019, basicly all of patong bars had closed and just walking street was left, Ive never been a fan of walking street so many Eastern block people working and holidaying there now I think the price of alot of things there went up about 140% over 9 years.
Nice vid Steady. Where will you be at Christmas?
Hopefully in Cambodia
@@STEADY599 me too maybe, either Cambodia for Christmas and then Pattaya, or it might be the other way around
I've just got home a week ago and yes your right Ed. I've been going since 98 and seen the decline for awhile even before c-19. The numbers and quality are nothing like they use to be ( except for ladyboys they increased if that's your thing ).
I'm comfortable with the older set there is still some good looking ones about and for the most part they will give you a much better experience in all ways.
I left the trophy girls to the newbies long ago.
They are not coming back to service the "post-Covid" travel resurgence?
@@seans7228 That is a far point Covid has taken an upward spike with all people starting to come back. Some of the night clubs are shoulder to shoulder perfect for catching covid.
I prefer the older gals in the 35 to 40 age bracket. Always enjoy with them and good experiences. They look after men better.
Absolutely!!!!! I just returned from Jomtien and Pattaya the girls were scares and scary 😂😂 they were mostly 4 and 5 in the looks department
I concur, I was in Pattaya last month & some of the bar girls were as old as the hills & over weight.
Was there in July/August, soi 6 probably had the young pretty ones.
But the choice overall in Pattaya was fine for me, I had no complaints
The car hire company hasn't updated its fleet, plenty of vauxhall cavaliers but not too many new bmw's available to hire nowadays
I honestly believe Cambodia will be a much better place in the future
Agreed 👍
Most of the bargirls in Pattaya are past their best, i wouldn't go with them if it was free. There are a few nice ones. Pattaya really has had it's day.
I looked at air fares to Thailand next month, most come in at around £800 to £1000! And with things still up in the air in Thailand regarding costs and lack of entertainment, i think it's best to leave the place well alone for another year........
Good for you on the exercise Eddie. Keep going better health is worth it in its own right
Went to khosan Rd on 3 rd of this month . all cannabis bars now every where also popped to nana plaza didn't stay there was quite a few African girls looking for business to ny surprise some very pretty light skinned but felt quite different bit more edgy more young people in the bars etc
I live in Chiang Rai and a couple of times a year head down to the coast. Hua Hin has been my favourite spot for a couple of years now and it has really picked up in the last year or so, with many new bars opening and a good choice of young ladies. And it will only get better.
Good advice from someone there.
Why not live in Hua Hin?
@@domi9577 I like living in Chiang Rai, it doesn't have the level of tourism that there is on the coast and it's not nearly as expensive. Going to the coast every few months is like having a holiday (I'm retired!) and I enjoy something different every so often.
@@stevenshaw6766 I'm retired too but chose Phuket. Nowhere in Thailand is "expensive" compared to the west. The tropics is all about the sea
I'll be hitting Bangkok mid November hope to bump into you in my travels, been a long 2yr wait✌
Hope to see you there, Tintin
Hi Eddie i live in essan most of the girls now are working in the big cities here i live close to ubon ratchatani there are many girls there in bars
The reason is instagram only fans, seeking arrangements.
Thailand is my favourite destination, ladies was main reason I went there first...but soooo much more than just bars to Thailand...Thailand ladies deserve all they can get...reduce the time spent in expensive bars/ladies,, hire a bike, walk most of the time....get fit, you might even get a discount with the ladies...
I did say that online streaming from the bars that the bar owners would regret it in the long run as mugs was sending ridiculous money to them over the stream the girls have thought why work in bars just go back to the village and do only fans from there
Purely a subjective matter.
One man's stunner is another man's fugly.
If we all liked the same girls there would be fighting in the bars.
I've been twice this year to Pattaya and more recently Udon which is nearer to where I live and I've found more than enough to satisfy my taste.
If you want what some people describe as the 9s or 10s just go the GG bars but be prepared to pay up big baht for the pleasure.
The reason why attractive Thailand women are not working at bars anymore is because of OnlyFans and the large amount of simps sending them money through dating apps and majority of attractive Thai women stay a few month build a roster of foreigners also sending money . This then makes it so attractive Thailand Bar Women tell the bars to pay them more if they want her to stay so this then makes the bar prices to go up. So eventually the quality of the bar women will go lower and the bar will end up closing down in the future. I don’t see men paying more than 50$ or more dollars in Thailand for lower quality women when they can just go to South America or other parts of Asia.💯🤷🏻♂️
"Dating" apps have made more girls to lean towards freelancing. Same if not better pay and they can work when the want to. Make their own hours. Also having the stigma of being a working girl. Young women care more of what other think of them. That's why you are seeing more and more older women. Becuase they care less of the stigma
dont look at the mantle piece when you are poking the fire take a viagra and a few beers close your eyes and think of England
I was in Pattaya about 2months ago and it was very hard to find a looker most are very average or covered in tattoos.
In the past there used to be stunning girls in Pattaya but not anymore there are still some around but you have to look hard to find them.
Keep the walk , looking good Eddie . Have a great weekend 😘
Thankyou, Jeannette.
I’ll be out there before Xmas so I’ll find out wat there like from last time in 2020 all the best
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Its all theses silly people sending money to a few scatty tattooed girls dancing on a live stream they don't go work in bars to much
Will be out there in 7 weeks. My first trip was 11 years ago and I noticed a decline over time but it will still be a lot of fun I am sure.
Was quoted 500 baht bar fine and. 2500 short time , 1 hour in Tree Town last week . 🤨🇹🇭
You need to visit one of the Gentlemens Clubs - many of them all over Pattaya- around 1,000 - 1,500 short time plus around 400 baht for the room upstairs
and that includes bar fine. Check out Daz’s channel at Everything Pattaya - he has shown many Gentlemens Clubs on his channel and always lets you know the
prices, where most other Pattaya vloggers dont 😊🙏🇬🇧
They just throw a number at you hoping you'll accept it.
Are you sure you're handsome?
@@jonoda894 Very true negotiation is key.
@@jonoda894 Yes and some of you silly f☆☆☆ers will .
5 of the 8 Air Bases the US used in the Vietnam war were in Isaan. There is an interesting article with plenty of photos you will find if you put in BANGKOK EYES MIDNIGHT HOUR UDORN IN THE 60’s & 70’s.
Thanks for your info, mate.
all stuck in there phones mate
Hey Ed, great vid as always, I know your an experienced traveler, however, some advice, get rid of the 'Daddy long legs spiders' that have made home under your T-Shirt, there are so many there now bud, they are trying to escape, they will scare off any young bar girl. 😁🤣
A great man once said "it only takes a second to score a goal"
Hello Ed.
The real pretty girls do not need to work in bars anymore now days the are on social media with many Farangs sending them money.
I live in Pattaya been here many years now i go out in the bars i find it all so boring maybe i have been here to long lol.
I arrived in Pattaya 8 november after 3 years with social media and the internet the girls have caught up with the western world it's a granny's everywhere it's not for me the standards now has drop only in walking street in hot ago bars were you get younger girls from 20 to 28 but you pay up to 1500 bar fine plus 5 thousand baht a night if you want quality in Pattaya you pay the asking price
Great stuff Eddy keep it up mate
Thanks, will do!
Thailand moves towards first-world status - 7 years ago, while I was trailing my ladyboy around, I traveled from Ao Nang to Udon Thani (far south to far north) of Thailand. What struck me the most was just how middle-class urban Thailand had become (even then). Young people, especially, are educated often to university level and grow up in comfortable, middle-class suburbs. Thailand didn't stay locked in the 70s or 80s - like most rapidly-developing nations in SE Asia, it shot forward, elevated its economy, living standards, GDP, and - most importantly in this context - the aspirations and expectations of its people.
The old, romtaticised notion of Thailand is rapidly disappearing (all but gone, really). Naturally, the vast majority of ordinary middle-class Thais don't like the seediness, the bar girls, the reputation certain places have for sex tourism, etc. Who would? Look how here in the UK prostitution (and that is what we're discussing here) was all but eliminated from public view. I can (just) remember when a walk through Old Compton Street (Soho, London) might have revealed the visible presence of prostitution. These days - not at all. All heavily regulated bars, buzzing gay scene (but corporatised).
And there is one other thing, Eddie. We all got older. I think back to my last sojourn to SE Asia (Saigon, Vietnam). I was 56 then. In my head I was 30. Of course, I had a great time with a very pleasant young man (29), and - as usual - lost myself in that familiar dream-state of self-indulgence and delusion that SE Asia induces in so many Westerners. But now I look back at that (as so often before) and wonder what did that good-looking young Vietnamese man see in me (nearly twice his age)..?
It was all a ridiculous - albeit beautiful - fiction. That's the lure and the folly of SE Asia.
It was all a ridiculous - albeit beautiful - fiction. That's the lure and the folly of SE Asia.
Exactly. So well put. Some people realise that and enjoy it as far as they can for what it is and others stay stuck in a fantasy land where they are Brad Pitt.
40 yr old Thai babe vs 40 yr English granny , thai babe gets my vote all day cheers Eddie , enjoy your travels 👍🍺
Well you make a very good point
..and that is exactly why we will keep coming back :-))
Come on......what's up with a 25 st English granny ?🤣😂😆 ugh !
They are getting on TikTok getting free money no need to work in the bars when you can get paid from a phone 📱. My opinion
Eddie are you gonna be in Pattaya end of year? Would like to meet for a beer or 5.
The starving girls are being shortchanged by bar owners with strict rules even to talk to a girl required two drinks 400 b+ .No incentive to go to some of the empty bars that are overcharging .I paid £100+ for a dumpling ! That is ridiculous . Get it cheaper in UK .
Great to see you are losing weight my friend, through dieting with the right foods and not being hungry is the most effective way maybe think about SM light when you get here half the calories and just as strong as Leo etc...keep up the good work....
My first trip was in 1997. It was paradise, hot ladies everywhere. More a** than you could shake a stick at. It's been about 10 years since my last trip. I noticed that at least for BKK, there seemed to be fewer lookers than before. You really had to shop around.
The average annual income per capita is about $4k, up about 10 times from the 80's. The girls can still make a lot more working the bars. I also found that the birth rate has gone from 6 in the 80's and 90's, to 1 or 2 currently. That's means a lot fewer girls in the pool. Everything changes.
A fresh wave of "Fahrm Guurlz" is another great shirt.
We were out about here last night .. went everywhere Soi 6, LK ... Walking and there's plenty of hot ones of all ages... so many places that actually had so many girls and hardly any customers... I saw a post the other day from some bloke saying was struggling to hook up °!!. I was amazed to read this... there's everything available for everyone...
Proud of you Ed. i need to do the same, heading to Bangkok in December, a new non stop from Canada, looking forward to the travel.