If you have never heard “ Is it a Star “ by them then look up the live version from the 70’s It is hands down the most underrated incredible song they ever performed!!!
This is so sad. 50 years of making music and they end up in court. At their time of life, do they really need this nonsense? My favouite group of all time and the greatest in my opinion, the Beatles ended up suing each over all over the place but at least they had the excuse of being young idiots with the situation not being helped due to their founder, Mr Lennon, being brain addled with drugs. I hope Mr Hall and Mr Oates can come to an agreement but I doubt they will.
There also would be no Hall and Oates without Daryl. I agree with what Daryl Hall is doing, John has no right selling Daryl’s share. Why does it seem like you’re trying to make Daryl out to be the bad guy here…? Daryl is just trying to protect his own interest. I’m sure if you were in his shoes, you would want to do the same.
@@pamjarrett-s9s I think they BOTH have acted badly! Daryl for making unkind remarks about John's contribution to their music and John for trying to sell it!
I've liked Hall & Oates since I was a teenager. I saw them live at a small venue (Music Hall) in Houston in 1977. I just watched Daryl Hall's interview with Dan Rather from May '23 and it sounded like things were ok. He spoke fondly about meeting John Oates, their relationship, writing songs together, etc., but when Dan Rather asked about what happened to all the money, Daryl's whole demeanor changed. He said he always had an adversarial relationship to the music industry and compared it to organized crime. Really sad.
*** This BREAKS my Heart! The Pride of PHILLY. The Best Selling DUO Ever! [30 of their Singles CHARTING?!.] Genuine blue eyed soul. When PBS Has HALL & OATES Music & Gifts on Their Pledge Drives, That Puts Up There with "DOWNTON ABBEY" !!
The restraining order by Hall is to put a pause or stop on the sale of the publishing rights that Oates wants to do. It seems as though things didn't work during the arbitration. Oates wants to sell his share.
I've noticed very recently that many older big name songwriters are selling their catalog to a particular company. My take on this is that Oates wants to sell his half of their songs and Hall opposes this.
Their were one of my all-time favorites during my adolescence. These 2 seemed to be the least likely to have serious issues with one another, though I know it happens with some or most bandmates.
In hindsight, I’m just grateful they were able to keep it together as long as they did. This could have easily become a ‘Noel and Liam’ situation by the mid-‘80s.
In the late 70's I told my friends that Hall and Oates got heir name from what they did for a living before music. They were truck drivers and they used to deliver grains so they names the group "Haulin' Oats"
Sara Smile (live 1978). And these two need to cut it out. Hall is in his 70s and wealthy. Oates isn't hurtin' either. What I wanna know is WHY DID THEY MAKE IT PUBLIC?
I believe the reason is simple, John Oates wants to retire on his terms by selling his publishing rights. Why shouldn't he be able to? I don't blame him because he's in his 70s and $100m is good money to live the rest of his life. I'm not sure what the amount is, but I'm assuming it will be well over $100m. It all depends on their agreement/contract. I have a strong feeling Oates is not bound to a contract, otherwise why would he pursue the sale...
I think he's sick of Hall. Hall has been dissing him for years, saying they were never friends, just business partners. Oates is probably thinking "I'm too old for this stuff. I want out". Can't blame him. Why stay connected to someone that hates you?
If you've followed Hall and Oates for a long time and read/watched many of their interviews, it's very evident that Daryl Hall is an extremely difficult guy to get along with. I don't say this with any anger toward him, but it's evident he's a troubled guy.
About 5 years ago I went to a Hall & Oates concert. Hall was in BAD shape & could barely sing! Oates sounded great! So sad but Hall seems so burnt out!
Harvey looks rough. They say now that Oates wants to sell his part of the Venture to Prime Music, but Daryl says no, even tho they already partner with Prime.
Seems like 1 out maybe 3 SUPER Famous groups or duos, there is a heart breaking disagreement, & then it hurts the World because these groups are bigger than life in a way.. Fleetwood Mac,, The Eagles,, Mary Wilson & Diana Ross,, The Everly Brothers,, Blondie,, the list goes on.. We are All human.. I hope they can heal their situation.. They are a Great Duo..
My Boy's Stop The Madness 😮😕😳🧐 Listen TO Them Everyday When I Can Brings Me Back To The 1980'S From YES Sarah Smile, I Can't GO For That, FAMILY MAN, One On One AND Adult Education The List Goes On.... Get It Together Hall And Oates We Truly Love U, Guys Blessings PEACE,🎇🎸🎼🎩📸🕊️📻❣️😮😕🎇🎸🎼❣️📻📸🎧🎙️🎇❣️🎩🎼
I am sure he ( Daryl) has a huge ego. And Bill Maher talked about all the one night stand he had because he was a rockstar. He didn’t do much drugs or alcohol, but he said he certainly had a lot of women and I know he has a child a one night stand..
Probably culminates in a good bye tour with a couple of on stage smack downs leading to a charity grudge match for relevance and increase in ticket sales.
Daryl Hall wrote and sang on most of their hits and owns the rights to those songs so it is up to him to allow someone else to perform them in public or on a recording
I really was never a Hall and Oates fan, I men they have some great ear worms, but I don’t own any of their music or anything. That said, I love Live At Daryl’s House, it’s so much fun watching & I am a longtime fan of that show on UA-cam. I read in the comments that Hall is difficult to work with, but I think this is a royalties issue, Hall doesn’t want Oates playing music Hall wrote, or playing concerts under the name Hall and Oates, if Hall is not performing at said shows.
It’s obvious that Daryl Hall just can’t take the fact any longer that John Oates always was the better looking and sexier of the two. It’s all that simple.
Damn shame. These two were the gold standard for longevity without drama!!
If you have never heard “ Is it a Star “ by them then look up the live version from the 70’s It is hands down the most underrated incredible song they ever performed!!!
This is so sad. 50 years of making music and they end up in court. At their time of life, do they really need this nonsense? My favouite group of all time and the greatest in my opinion, the Beatles ended up suing each over all over the place but at least they had the excuse of being young idiots with the situation not being helped due to their founder, Mr Lennon, being brain addled with drugs. I hope Mr Hall and Mr Oates can come to an agreement but I doubt they will.
Hall and Oates!! Not Hall!! He's a pathetic piece of....
Agree!
I’m so sick of hearing about this! It breaks my heart! There would be a no Hall and Oates without John! WTH Daryl!
There also would be no Hall and Oates without Daryl. I agree with what Daryl Hall is doing, John has no right selling Daryl’s share. Why does it seem like you’re trying to make Daryl out to be the bad guy here…? Daryl is just trying to protect his own interest. I’m sure if you were in his shoes, you would want to do the same.
@@misshair I guess I misunderstood. I thought he didn’t want John using the music for his solo shows. I didn’t know John was trying to sell it.
@@pamjarrett-s9s I think they BOTH have acted badly! Daryl for making unkind remarks about John's contribution to their music and John for trying to sell it!
@@karenharris722 agree! I didn’t know John was trying to sell any of their music. It’s just sad. I love them both so much.
@@pamjarrett-s9s That is the essence of the lawsuit, Pam - plus the unauthorized song performance.
I've liked Hall & Oates since I was a teenager. I saw them live at a small venue (Music Hall) in Houston in 1977. I just watched Daryl Hall's interview with Dan Rather from May '23 and it sounded like things were ok. He spoke fondly about meeting John Oates, their relationship, writing songs together, etc., but when Dan Rather asked about what happened to all the money, Daryl's whole demeanor changed. He said he always had an adversarial relationship to the music industry and compared it to organized crime. Really sad.
*** This BREAKS my Heart! The Pride of PHILLY. The Best Selling DUO Ever! [30 of their Singles CHARTING?!.] Genuine blue eyed soul. When PBS Has HALL & OATES Music & Gifts on Their Pledge Drives, That Puts Up There with "DOWNTON ABBEY" !!
I thought for a restraining order there needs to be a threat to someone’s life? I’ve never heard of a restraining order for purely business reasons.
Different kind of restraining order.
Restraining order also prevents phone contact . Sounds like Hall has a bug up his ass.
Oates can beat up Halls. Classic domestic dispute.
…and to John’s wife and another person.
The restraining order by Hall is to put a pause or stop on the sale of the publishing rights that Oates wants to do. It seems as though things didn't work during the arbitration. Oates wants to sell his share.
This is worse than parents getting divorced. I’m laughing and crying at the same time.
I've noticed very recently that many older big name songwriters are selling their catalog to a particular company. My take on this is that Oates wants to sell his half of their songs and Hall opposes this.
I hate to see them fighting. I Can't Go For That
Their were one of my all-time favorites during my adolescence. These 2 seemed to be the least likely to have serious issues with one another, though I know it happens with some or most bandmates.
So sad, I hope a miracle happens and they find a way to make amends!
Man Eater was a favorite for me.
In hindsight, I’m just grateful they were able to keep it together as long as they did. This could have easily become a ‘Noel and Liam’ situation by the mid-‘80s.
In the late 70's I told my friends that Hall and Oates got heir name from what they did for a living before music. They were truck drivers and they used to deliver grains so they names the group "Haulin' Oats"
Everybody's high on consolation.
Just great. Next you'e gonna tell me peanut butter and jelly are breaking up. There goes my childhood..
So bizarre how 2 dudes that cranked out so many hits can't just sit back and enjoy what they have accomplished.... quite "Out Of Touch"
I see what you did there. 😅
No i wanna see them perform live one day
Sara Smile (live 1978). And these two need to cut it out. Hall is in his 70s and wealthy. Oates isn't hurtin' either. What I wanna know is WHY DID THEY MAKE IT PUBLIC?
Once it’s filed with the courts it’s public.
I believe the reason is simple, John Oates wants to retire on his terms by selling his publishing rights. Why shouldn't he be able to? I don't blame him because he's in his 70s and $100m is good money to live the rest of his life. I'm not sure what the amount is, but I'm assuming it will be well over $100m. It all depends on their agreement/contract. I have a strong feeling Oates is not bound to a contract, otherwise why would he pursue the sale...
I think he's sick of Hall. Hall has been dissing him for years, saying they were never friends, just business partners. Oates is probably thinking "I'm too old for this stuff. I want out". Can't blame him. Why stay connected to someone that hates you?
If you've followed Hall and Oates for a long time and read/watched many of their interviews, it's very evident that Daryl Hall is an extremely difficult guy to get along with. I don't say this with any anger toward him, but it's evident he's a troubled guy.
About 5 years ago I went to a Hall & Oates concert. Hall was in BAD shape & could barely sing! Oates sounded great! So sad but Hall seems so burnt out!
@@belgrathsnape3765 Just scratchin' my head here at the whole thing!
I wonder if Darrell is angry that he can't afford to let his 2nd wife shop like she wants.
Daryl...sorry
@@deedeeh5532 I didn't know he had remarried!
Harvey looks rough. They say now that Oates wants to sell his part of the Venture to Prime Music, but Daryl says no, even tho they already partner with Prime.
Harvey turned 73, in September.
Hopefully, he's due for a vacation.
I don't think the beard really suits him.
How much money do you need? You can’t take it with you. Destroying a legacy for what?
Daryl has performed their songs on "live at Daryls house" granted he has other musicians involved ( maybe that's a loophole)
Seems like 1 out maybe 3 SUPER Famous groups or duos, there is a heart breaking disagreement, & then it hurts the World because these groups are bigger than life in a way.. Fleetwood Mac,, The Eagles,, Mary Wilson & Diana Ross,, The Everly Brothers,, Blondie,, the list goes on.. We are All human.. I hope they can heal their situation.. They are a Great Duo..
John wrote “How Does It Feel to Be Back”, which I think is their best tune.
It's about selling there catalog
I heard that also.
John oats net worth is 60 million, now he wants more?
My Boy's Stop The Madness 😮😕😳🧐 Listen TO Them Everyday When I Can Brings Me Back To The 1980'S From YES Sarah Smile, I Can't GO For That, FAMILY MAN, One On One AND Adult Education The List Goes On.... Get It Together Hall And Oates We Truly Love U, Guys Blessings PEACE,🎇🎸🎼🎩📸🕊️📻❣️😮😕🎇🎸🎼❣️📻📸🎧🎙️🎇❣️🎩🎼
Hall needs to get over his huge ego
I’ve heard Daryl can be insufferable
I am sure he ( Daryl) has a huge ego. And Bill Maher talked about all the one night stand he had because he was a rockstar. He didn’t do much drugs or alcohol, but he said he certainly had a lot of women and I know he has a child a one night stand..
I believe John made tons of money as endorser of Quaker.
Sara Smile is favorite. Can’t believe Charles chose that one! Cool 😎
Out of touch for me!
Sad to hear this. I idolized these two growing up.
Gotta respect a good lawsuit now and then
They should both be suing their plastic surgeons.
😂😂😂😂😂
Unless this is a publicity stunt, rehearsed? Then they’ll come to an agreement. Hope this is staged? Cause it’s sad if it’s a real feud.
Probably culminates in a good bye tour with a couple of on stage smack downs leading to a charity grudge match for relevance and increase in ticket sales.
I'm feeling very Don King
So they rehashed everything we already know. And told us nothing new
After all this time it's sad to hear.
I CANT GO FOR THAT
The Charles Latibeaudiere & Harvey Levin show ☝️😎
Money makes people nuts
I guess he Can Go For That.
Sounds like they are Out of Touch…
😂
Pitcher catcher. Oates had the dark bushy moustache.
Daryl Hall wrote and sang on most of their hits and owns the rights to those songs so it is up to him to allow someone else to perform them in public or on a recording
I've researched this. Many if not most of Hall and Oates' hits are credited to both of them. So they each have a share.
I really was never a Hall and Oates fan, I men they have some great ear worms, but I don’t own any of their music or anything. That said, I love Live At Daryl’s House, it’s so much fun watching & I am a longtime fan of that show on UA-cam. I read in the comments that Hall is difficult to work with, but I think this is a royalties issue, Hall doesn’t want Oates playing music Hall wrote, or playing concerts under the name Hall and Oates, if Hall is not performing at said shows.
Greed. We all know who the one is that thinks he's better than everyone.
And we all know who is the one who is actually the better musician
It’s obvious that Daryl Hall just can’t take the fact any longer that John Oates always was the better looking and sexier of the two. It’s all that simple.
Hall is going to get a reality check. He's wedded to Oates. Nobody even knows his first name.
I can't go for that 🎙️
Say it isn't so !! 😢
Very sad......😢
"I don't know what Oates does
But Hall never had a hit without him."
Chris Rock
Its the truth! 😂🤣😂🤣
Hall is a jerk.........do the homework.
Its Oates who wants to sell half of Hall's life work. Daryl made +70% of the songs...
Daryl sounds very bitter
Who cares
Is John Oates, the white guy or the black guy with that group?
No black guy in Hall n Oates. You are confused.
Starts with art..then becomes art + business...then it becomes all business...barf
Hall said it was ALWAYS business and that they were never friends.
Hall and Oates are a couple of corn flakes.
😬
Piss on hall, all about money. U just lost and H and O fan
angry gay lovers...lol
Its Hall and Oates!! It's not Hall !! 😂
These beards are terrible. Enough with trying to fit in to this over extended trend Harvey.