Congrats on your repairs, well done. Sometimes you can turn disaster into a win and you have certainly done that, a clean bum will add some speed for your voyage. Fair winds and Bon Voyage
Getting humped on the seas is bad enough withouth beeing responsible,so i'am glad u were on tge winning side and that boat is better then before and in the water where it belongs. Great job,man. I have to change my cutlass as well, but i dont have a skeg, ut's gona be a b.....! Stay safe and sail on👍
Getting humped on the seas is bad enough withouth beeing responsible,so i'am glad u were on tge winning side and that boat is better then before and in the water where it belongs. Great job,man. I have to change my cutlass as well, but i dont have a skeg, ut's gona be a b.....! Stay safe and sail on👍
When you were removing the tape after finishing the antifouling where did that huge boat come from how did it get on the hard it looked miles to big and heavy for the travel lift.....🤔 .. A friend of mine went to buy some propspeed recently from the marine store they had to call for a ambulance he fainted when they told him how much it cost ......it will be interesting to see if it's worth the money.... ..
The yard in Townsville has 2 travel lifts, the bigger one can lift 180t and that boat was right on its limit. $239 for the Proposed SMALL kit which was enough for both my props and shafts. Doesn't seem worth a heart attack to me.
Another good video Vern Glad the boat is fixed and looking good. Fortunately, the damage wasn't as bad as your 1st thought. Looking forward to knowing your new crew over the next couple videos. Stay safe catch you later
Just want to say hello Marie . I miss seeing you onboard sailing ⛵. Hope all is well with you and the baby 🤰 Can't wait to see the three of you together again ❤
Hello @@J0EYbagaDONUTS !Thank you 😊 Pregnancy is a bit more a complicated adventure than what I was expecting but the baby and me are doing well. We can’t wait too to start the sailing adventure as a small family 😊
Looking at the damage and knowing it was more a side swipe than anything I thought the damage wouldn't be too much work. Thats why I love epoxy/glass anyone can do it. As for the who is at fault % wise, if our authorities deemed it's 90/10 then it's 90/10, done deal. Anyway you were under sail alone, they were under power alone and we know who must give way. Positive outcome, got to do the antifouling, cutlass bearings, propspeed and fixed the board and other stuff, so now it's off you go. Albeit with a new sense of awareness ;)
That pretty much sums it up nicely!. As I said in the video, I would have been happy to accept more of the blame but who am I to argue with the professionals. Some people on facebook seem to think they are better qualified to make these decisions but we all know what these FB warriors are.
Crazy to think that just a few more seconds of delay on your reaction before the collision could have meant a much more extensive damage, and legally you would not have such a clear case maybe. You would need to sit around waiting for insurance and stuff, and end up releasing a YT drama episode. Haha, that’ll be the day! Such a solid guy, and no crocs... praise the Lord 😊
oh yeah, a head-on collision would have meant both front beams broken and then forestays loose and masts down on both boats. would have been a disaster.
A good luck is all one needs, you're lucky, really lucky, My monohull was knocked over on the RPAYC Newport slipway by an unsecured boat beside me, This was while I was antifouling it was closed if I had been on the opposite side of the boat painting, I would have been squashed. The total rebuild took 18 months to rebuild it from the top of the mast to the bottom of the keel. The mast had hit the club wall when my boat toppled over. This meant it had to be removed, all the paint removed as well to check for cracks and replace damaged spreaders and wire rigging with new Dyneema rigging, I could go On and on - All I'm saying is thank your lucky stars you got off lightly. It could have been very bad quickly, you only lost a week's hard work I'm impressed with your repairs, good to know all is well. Great tutorial on prop speed, however boat owners in Sydney are not allowed to buy it or apply it costs You need to hire a pro applicator I was quoted $500 that is for one prop. You are right land of QZ when it comes to boats, money evaporates for little return or value. Hang in there. good to note you had a lucky break with a great outcome. I had backed into those slip lifts, I would never do it in a following wind of 25 knots SV Skoiern IV
Wow, sounds like a nightmare, guess you got a brand newish boat after all that though. How do you mean "not allowed" to apply propspeed? Is this from the hardstand owners? Anyone can buy the product online
@@SailingLearningByDoing Hi Vernon, I slipped Skoiern at the RPAYC last month. I must love risk? The truth of the matter is there are now fewer places to slip one's boat in Pittwater with a lift. Since my accident rules changed, you can no longer work on you boat. Unless you are a club member, in the case of the RPAYC . To apply Prop speed that was the quote given, I had no idea I could buy Propspeed online, thanks. Even if I could, purchase it, I would not be allowed to apply it. Yes, my boat my money their rules!
Hello hello, thanks to ask the updates. The heat was not a problem at all but I had many others. The baby and me are healthy but there are some complications who are keeping me in bed for few months now. We are keeping this a bit private as it is already a bit hard to live far a part but in general, we are good.
WoW! Chaos, weird havn to reverse in. Who was panning the camera while you running around on deck? (I'm asking for Marie). Anti-foul was looking very ordinary, how long since last done? Naughty boy not using drop sheets, make a mess of the slab, i.e. 16:00, they get the shits, start charging more, etc. @10:25 that's what Marie said. Use something like Bitwarden for passwords, has a great generator feature. See-ya in Darwin (if not b4) for more repairs b4 the big crossing. His looking a bit scruffy atm isn't he Marie? a head only a mother sould love
End of the day a good result for all, your back in the water and back to the mad dash, let’s hope you have a great trip incident free from here on. Cheers
Ha ha ha, haulout there is always late. Once I waited 2 hand a half hours. But the last time was only 30 min. But always quite busy. I was amazed they hauled you out with that wind. I was worried for you. Well done with the daggerboards. The day before was a beautiful day. Glad you are fairly well on track.
I moved from Germany to Indonesia and I was shocked, that I couldnt find any harbours where I can leave a sailing boat. You`ve been there? Do you know any harbours close to Yogyakarta, or if not, how to find a harbour, when Indonesia basically doesnt use websites? :D
There is no pleasure sailing culture in Indonesia so the only marinas are built for foreigners. There are maybe 10 marinas in the whole country and none of them up to the standard most from the western world would expect. Its an amazing country to explore by boat though so it is what it is. I've spent 5 years exploring Indo by sailboat and have just arrived back with my new boat for another year or two. Love it
With you haul out I don't know if you asked the boatyard, but it would have been nice if a couple of the guys from the boatyard jumped aboard to give you a hand.
Gday Vernon - it's been a couple of days with me wondering whether I should write this, but here goes. Lock Crowther often used the same daggerboard design for many designs. He used a cedar blank with minimal reinforcing, often just a few layers of sheathing cloth. It is not a design style that is used much nowadays. When I broke my cedar board on my Crowther Twiggy I wrapped it in glass like you did, but I don't think the job you did is a long term fix. Once the cedar is broken it can only be used as a high load core, which it can still function as, but the skins have to now take almost all the load, not the cedar. In your video you showed how you were going to scoop out the cedar to lay in some new glass - you mentioned Jeff Cruze, so I thought, "All good, everything will be good now". But I was totally surprised to see that chopped strand mat and cloth were used to reinforce the board. Choppy is truly awful stuff that has absolutely no place in any high load structure, and then the fabric was put over it. To me it looked like about 300gm fabric. The choppy will almost have no strength in tension for the loads on the board. The fabric has half of its plies running the wrong way. The other half are crimped, weaving up and down around the other threads, so they are not that strong. So I reckon you have the equivalent of about one layer of 300gm uni holding your board together. My 38ft cat is lighter than yours and I have about 8 layers of proper uni, on each side of a full intact cedar core. I think you should be very wary of your fix, it is pretty dodgy engineering. Have a chat with someone who makes modern composite boats and get stuck into when to use unis and fabrics. I would never have suggested using choppy (throw that stuff in the bin) on your cat. Fabric is fine for sheathing but for load bearing, you need to have some uni and some biaxial or double bias on board. Have a chat again with Jeff Cruze or someone else. I would worry heaps about the board breaking down in the case now, it is very much weaker than how Lock designed it, or how someone who knows composites would strengthen it. My advice would be to only put it half down until you gets somewhere nice and then rip all of the filler and glass off and get some serious layers of 400gm uni staggered on the sides of the break. The engineering is not that hard - you just work out the strength of the cedar blank and ensure the unis can carry the same load - it would take about 15 minutes with a composites book. Cheers Phil
Thanks for the long comment. I agree with you on many points. Some, not so much. If your cedar core has 8 layers of Uni then I would say thats way over engineered. Mine had bugger all glass on and lasted 30 years fine. I couldnt find any Uni in Townsville and wasn't going to put off my trip north just on account of that. I'm in Lombok now, 2500nm sailed and the board is working great. Only had 3 legs upwind using the boards fully down but still... I see the daggerboards like a rear spoiler on a car, it adds some performance but is not vital to the car actually driving. If the board breaks at some stage, no biggie, I'll fix it. After gluing the 2 pieces together I rested it on 2 bits of wood, one at each end and stood with my 100kgs right on the crack. Adding the layers of glass, (even if not the correct ones) will only have added a to more strength. Perfection is to be strived for practicality is more realistic.
@@SailingLearningByDoing Gday Vernon - glad you made it to Lombok. My current board needs the uni because it is a NACA 0009 section and it was designed for the uni. It isn't over engineered. The unis are staggered around the maximum stress point. Lock's boards were 0012 sections and are thicker than mine. I owned one on my Twiggy, and I broke it and fixed it, and made a new one too. Your board uses just the strength of the cedar, or it used to. Now it needs the strength of strong glass rather than the cedar only. I stand by my comments about unis and your glassing, your laminate won't be very strong at all and the fix will be a weak point. I would suggest you grab some nice unis and double bias and put it in your spares kit. I carry plenty of cedar and boatbuilding foam (I store the foam and cedar under the bunks) and carry about 10 litres of epoxy and filler and glue mix. That means I can fix almost any nasty problem needing some material. I would recommend anyone on a composite multi do the same if they do their own work.
Well done and safe travels to you . Wish we caught up with you at Horseshoe Bay , thinking you may have been a little preoccupied 😅Anyhoos she come up sweet and now you can be a master of the seas . Stay safe , healthy and happy .🐾⚓️
Great vlog ... can see you put a lot into it.... can also see that you are a very authentic dude....well done on the whole accident saga cheers
Thanks mate, try to keep it real
Congrats on your repairs, well done. Sometimes you can turn disaster into a win and you have certainly done that, a clean bum will add some speed for your voyage. Fair winds and Bon Voyage
Yep, worked out much better than I anticipated
Everything's looking tickety boo! Great episode. 👏🎬
Getting humped on the seas is bad enough withouth beeing responsible,so i'am glad u were on tge winning side and that boat is better then before and in the water where it belongs. Great job,man. I have to change my cutlass as well, but i dont have a skeg, ut's gona be a b.....! Stay safe and sail on👍
Great job as always . Seems like things could have been a lot worse than it turned out to be . 👍
Too right, I was expecting way worse.
Brilliant, and a lot of hard work well done.
Many thanks!
Getting humped on the seas is bad enough withouth beeing responsible,so i'am glad u were on tge winning side and that boat is better then before and in the water where it belongs. Great job,man. I have to change my cutlass as well, but i dont have a skeg, ut's gona be a b.....! Stay safe and sail on👍
Thanks mate, good luck
When you were removing the tape after finishing the antifouling where did that huge boat come from how did it get on the hard it looked miles to big and heavy for the travel lift.....🤔 .. A friend of mine went to buy some propspeed recently from the marine store they had to call for a ambulance he fainted when they told him how much it cost ......it will be interesting to see if it's worth the money.... ..
The yard in Townsville has 2 travel lifts, the bigger one can lift 180t and that boat was right on its limit. $239 for the Proposed SMALL kit which was enough for both my props and shafts. Doesn't seem worth a heart attack to me.
Another good video Vern Glad the boat is fixed and looking good. Fortunately, the damage wasn't as bad as your 1st thought. Looking forward to knowing your new crew over the next couple videos. Stay safe catch you later
Thanks 👍
Once again, I really like this video lover ! Great job, good informations and explanations ! Proud of you ! ❤
Thanks Babe
Just want to say hello Marie . I miss seeing you onboard sailing ⛵. Hope all is well with you and the baby 🤰 Can't wait to see the three of you together again ❤
Hello @@J0EYbagaDONUTS !Thank you 😊 Pregnancy is a bit more a complicated adventure than what I was expecting but the baby and me are doing well. We can’t wait too to start the sailing adventure as a small family 😊
Looking at the damage and knowing it was more a side swipe than anything I thought the damage wouldn't be too much work. Thats why I love epoxy/glass anyone can do it. As for the who is at fault % wise, if our authorities deemed it's 90/10 then it's 90/10, done deal. Anyway you were under sail alone, they were under power alone and we know who must give way. Positive outcome, got to do the antifouling, cutlass bearings, propspeed and fixed the board and other stuff, so now it's off you go. Albeit with a new sense of awareness ;)
That pretty much sums it up nicely!. As I said in the video, I would have been happy to accept more of the blame but who am I to argue with the professionals. Some people on facebook seem to think they are better qualified to make these decisions but we all know what these FB warriors are.
👍👍👍👍👍👍👍
Crazy to think that just a few more seconds of delay on your reaction before the collision could have meant a much more extensive damage, and legally you would not have such a clear case maybe. You would need to sit around waiting for insurance and stuff, and end up releasing a YT drama episode. Haha, that’ll be the day! Such a solid guy, and no crocs... praise the Lord 😊
oh yeah, a head-on collision would have meant both front beams broken and then forestays loose and masts down on both boats. would have been a disaster.
That's what I was thinking...Looked bad but the boat took the impact in the best place. Praise the Lord indeed, and I am...😂😂😂
Bad week . Push it aside. Your are goal oriented. Cheers duff
Easy forgotten when the next weeks of sailing involve 30kts downwind.
Good job ĺooks like you were lucky to find john
A good luck is all one needs, you're lucky, really lucky,
My monohull was knocked over on the RPAYC Newport slipway by an unsecured boat beside me, This was while I was antifouling it was closed if I had been on the opposite side of the boat painting, I would have been squashed. The total rebuild took 18 months to rebuild it from the top of the mast to the bottom of the keel. The mast had hit the club wall when my boat toppled over. This meant it had to be removed, all the paint removed as well to check for cracks and replace damaged spreaders and wire rigging with new Dyneema rigging, I could go On and on - All I'm saying is thank your lucky stars you got off lightly. It could have been very bad quickly, you only lost a week's hard work I'm impressed with your repairs, good to know all is well. Great tutorial on prop speed, however boat owners in Sydney are not allowed to buy it or apply it costs You need to hire a pro applicator I was quoted $500 that is for one prop. You are right land of QZ when it comes to boats, money evaporates for little return or value. Hang in there. good to note you had a lucky break with a great outcome. I had backed into those slip lifts, I would never do it in a following wind of 25 knots SV Skoiern IV
Wow, sounds like a nightmare, guess you got a brand newish boat after all that though. How do you mean "not allowed" to apply propspeed? Is this from the hardstand owners? Anyone can buy the product online
@@SailingLearningByDoing Hi Vernon, I slipped Skoiern at the RPAYC last month. I must love risk? The truth of the matter is there are now fewer places to slip one's boat in Pittwater with a lift. Since my accident rules changed, you can no longer work on you boat. Unless you are a club member, in the case of the RPAYC . To apply Prop speed that was the quote given, I had no idea I could buy Propspeed online, thanks. Even if I could, purchase it, I would not be allowed to apply it. Yes, my boat my money their rules!
Vern...have I missed something ? You dont seem to give any updates on Marie and her progress....how's she doing ? Been really hot here in France. 😘😘😘
Hello hello, thanks to ask the updates. The heat was not a problem at all but I had many others. The baby and me are healthy but there are some complications who are keeping me in bed for few months now. We are keeping this a bit private as it is already a bit hard to live far a part but in general, we are good.
WoW! Chaos, weird havn to reverse in. Who was panning the camera while you running around on deck? (I'm asking for Marie). Anti-foul was looking very ordinary, how long since last done?
Naughty boy not using drop sheets, make a mess of the slab, i.e. 16:00, they get the shits, start charging more, etc. @10:25 that's what Marie said.
Use something like Bitwarden for passwords, has a great generator feature.
See-ya in Darwin (if not b4) for more repairs b4 the big crossing.
His looking a bit scruffy atm isn't he Marie? a head only a mother sould love
I set up an Insta360 camera at the mast and with that I could chose the angles afterwards, pan around etc. great little camera.
Great work mate
Thanks 👍
Glad the hull is fine was worried that would be a lot of work. Great repair on the dagger board Looks as good as new.
Thanks 👍
@@SailingLearningByDoing No probs mate at least you said thanks instead of that heart, words are worth more.
Next crew member needs to be a hair dresser...
Haha ! Vern and his wild hair 😂
Yeah that would be a pretty handy skill to have
A job for you Marie 😊
Great to see that the damage was so much less than you had expected. Bloody good news
Yep, that what I thought.
Have you guys still got plans to head to NZ at all?
With the boat, not in the near future.
Nice episode, Vernon!
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End of the day a good result for all, your back in the water and back to the mad dash, let’s hope you have a great trip incident free from here on. Cheers
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How good
very good
Ha ha ha, haulout there is always late. Once I waited 2 hand a half hours. But the last time was only 30 min.
But always quite busy.
I was amazed they hauled you out with that wind. I was worried for you.
Well done with the daggerboards.
The day before was a beautiful day.
Glad you are fairly well on track.
It was pretty sketchy. I think they know that until I'm lifted in thier slings its all my responsibility.
I moved from Germany to Indonesia and I was shocked, that I couldnt find any harbours where I can leave a sailing boat. You`ve been there? Do you know any harbours close to Yogyakarta, or if not, how to find a harbour, when Indonesia basically doesnt use websites? :D
There is no pleasure sailing culture in Indonesia so the only marinas are built for foreigners. There are maybe 10 marinas in the whole country and none of them up to the standard most from the western world would expect. Its an amazing country to explore by boat though so it is what it is. I've spent 5 years exploring Indo by sailboat and have just arrived back with my new boat for another year or two. Love it
With you haul out I don't know if you asked the boatyard, but it would have been nice if a couple of the guys from the boatyard jumped aboard to give you a hand.
Yeah I did ask but there were no spare people around. Was a bit hectic
Hey there, glad it all came together... 😂 impressed with how well that old strap worked. Wish I could have been there when you headed off.
Thanks again Peter.
Gday Vernon - it's been a couple of days with me wondering whether I should write this, but here goes. Lock Crowther often used the same daggerboard design for many designs. He used a cedar blank with minimal reinforcing, often just a few layers of sheathing cloth. It is not a design style that is used much nowadays. When I broke my cedar board on my Crowther Twiggy I wrapped it in glass like you did, but I don't think the job you did is a long term fix.
Once the cedar is broken it can only be used as a high load core, which it can still function as, but the skins have to now take almost all the load, not the cedar. In your video you showed how you were going to scoop out the cedar to lay in some new glass - you mentioned Jeff Cruze, so I thought, "All good, everything will be good now". But I was totally surprised to see that chopped strand mat and cloth were used to reinforce the board. Choppy is truly awful stuff that has absolutely no place in any high load structure, and then the fabric was put over it. To me it looked like about 300gm fabric.
The choppy will almost have no strength in tension for the loads on the board. The fabric has half of its plies running the wrong way. The other half are crimped, weaving up and down around the other threads, so they are not that strong. So I reckon you have the equivalent of about one layer of 300gm uni holding your board together.
My 38ft cat is lighter than yours and I have about 8 layers of proper uni, on each side of a full intact cedar core. I think you should be very wary of your fix, it is pretty dodgy engineering.
Have a chat with someone who makes modern composite boats and get stuck into when to use unis and fabrics. I would never have suggested using choppy (throw that stuff in the bin) on your cat. Fabric is fine for sheathing but for load bearing, you need to have some uni and some biaxial or double bias on board. Have a chat again with Jeff Cruze or someone else. I would worry heaps about the board breaking down in the case now, it is very much weaker than how Lock designed it, or how someone who knows composites would strengthen it. My advice would be to only put it half down until you gets somewhere nice and then rip all of the filler and glass off and get some serious layers of 400gm uni staggered on the sides of the break. The engineering is not that hard - you just work out the strength of the cedar blank and ensure the unis can carry the same load - it would take about 15 minutes with a composites book.
Cheers
Phil
Thanks for the long comment. I agree with you on many points. Some, not so much. If your cedar core has 8 layers of Uni then I would say thats way over engineered. Mine had bugger all glass on and lasted 30 years fine.
I couldnt find any Uni in Townsville and wasn't going to put off my trip north just on account of that. I'm in Lombok now, 2500nm sailed and the board is working great. Only had 3 legs upwind using the boards fully down but still...
I see the daggerboards like a rear spoiler on a car, it adds some performance but is not vital to the car actually driving. If the board breaks at some stage, no biggie, I'll fix it.
After gluing the 2 pieces together I rested it on 2 bits of wood, one at each end and stood with my 100kgs right on the crack. Adding the layers of glass, (even if not the correct ones) will only have added a to more strength. Perfection is to be strived for practicality is more realistic.
@@SailingLearningByDoing Gday Vernon - glad you made it to Lombok. My current board needs the uni because it is a NACA 0009 section and it was designed for the uni. It isn't over engineered. The unis are staggered around the maximum stress point. Lock's boards were 0012 sections and are thicker than mine. I owned one on my Twiggy, and I broke it and fixed it, and made a new one too. Your board uses just the strength of the cedar, or it used to. Now it needs the strength of strong glass rather than the cedar only. I stand by my comments about unis and your glassing, your laminate won't be very strong at all and the fix will be a weak point. I would suggest you grab some nice unis and double bias and put it in your spares kit. I carry plenty of cedar and boatbuilding foam (I store the foam and cedar under the bunks) and carry about 10 litres of epoxy and filler and glue mix. That means I can fix almost any nasty problem needing some material. I would recommend anyone on a composite multi do the same if they do their own work.
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Looks almost new now, what damage 😊
Exactly, better than new actually
@VernonDeckLearningByDoing wouldn't expect anything less. Have you been taking lessons from Roscoe from life on the hulls 😆
Well done and safe travels to you . Wish we caught up with you at Horseshoe Bay , thinking you may have been a little preoccupied 😅Anyhoos she come up sweet and now you can be a master of the seas . Stay safe , healthy and happy .🐾⚓️
Thanks guys, all good now and ripping our way north. happy sailing
So Vernon, are you going to refund the good folks that damaged your boat???? 😇😇😇😎🥸 - Just asking , you don't have to
Hell no! The stress factor charged by the hour