The Walking Dead Creator Robert Kirkman Not 100% Sold On Zombie Variants
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Yes do a differences video. I love your guys' thoughts and opinions. The tone and banter make your videos really fun to watch.
They wouldn't have been so surprised by the whisperes if they were getting used to the variants in earlier seasons.
this is precisely it, it would take away how special the whisperers saga begun.
Yup I 100% agree and we also wouldn’t have gotten the awesome scene where Aaron and Lydia still have ptsd from the whisperers and think they are still attacking them when those variants show up at the end of season 11
There was a Variant Walker in season 1 episode 2 "Guts" a Walker used a brick/rock to break through the glass doors at the store they were in when Andrea was talking to Rick about the Mermaid necklace. Teddy bear girl in episode1 at the gas station was also a Variant, she picked up the teddy bear and ran at Rick. Morgan's wife can also be a Variant because she knows how to open doors by turning the door knob, most Walkers would just pound on the door or slam there body into it.
Yes they did but in season 1 Frank Darabont was the showrunner and they hadn't quite established all the exact rules of what the Walkers can and cannot do. They weren't variants they just weren't established yet then in season 2 all that went away
Please do a series on the differences of both comic and show just keep bringing us twd videos as you guys are the best youtubers for the walking dead
I agree
I also agree that you're the best
“let’s just close this “😂😂😭 i was dying laughing when josh showed that page
Josh with the “that’s what she said” joke 😂
I died 🤣🤣
Definitely want that video series! I'm very curious about what you guys liked and disliked about what they changed because you have different opinion and outlook on the series as a whole then alot of the youtubers I've seen cover it!
Would love to see more videos with your opinions comparing differences between the comics and the show. I’ve never read the comics and love hearing about it! Keep up the good work!! ❤️
I love the show but the comicniw so much better in so many ways. Knowing about the source material really made watching the show and seeing how they remixed everything really special! Except for season 8. Yucky adaptation
@@nizzleprizzle9783 that’s so cool! I will definitely have to get the comics sometime!
I would love that kind of videos from you guys!
love ur content guys perfect time for a vid just finished making lunch 🔥
There were already kinda "variants" in 2010. Watch those zombies from season 1 and 2 and they walk fast/run, climb, and can use some objects. He should've put his foot down then
Yea, that was definitely just the standard “dumb” zombies not being created as the standard yet. By the season 1 and 2 rules, the zombies were all unpredictable and would behave however the writers wanted them to for that scene. They retconed that into being “variants” 10 years later but that was never the plan from the start.
YES! I like how you guys break down the TV show, I want more comparisons to the graphic novels. What Ifs, which worked better, etc.
I’ve been saying for years that the idea of ‘variant’ Walkers is goofy and feels like a last-ditch effort due to them running out of compelling storylines. The unfortunate truth is that they should’ve ended the franchise already. They have no concern anymore for maintaining a tight narrative, and are just trying to squeeze whatever remaining cash they can out of the franchise.
They’ve basically just copied resident evil zombies they even have the jumpsuits on and black eyes
At this point since they’re going down the comic book route with the ones who live, they should just reunite Rick with Carol and the old group for a good moment then have rick killed off similarly like in the comics he becomes a martyr. The community drives because of Rick bam story ended………..But
Money might stop that and we’ll watch Rick fight aliens next
@@lui8418 I would partially disagree due to the fact that I wasn’t satisfied with Rick’s ending in the comics either.
@@TheModernPioneer I can’t disagree with you in your opinion there are two reasons why I go with this
1. It stops the current writers from further butchering The Walking Dead tv series for the sake of getting paid also It brings a shock factor for people to find out after years of not watching The Walking Dead that Rick is dead probably be a very big episode that will break the Internet.
2. Ricks death meant something in the comics people united to make ricks dream a reality and so they did, and it made sense. It showed the people that death is unpredictable and he can even take out the main character unpredictably in the TV series by season nine Rick is presumed to be dead and yet nobody Unites to make Carl’s dream a reality they just go on about their own thing and end up leaving it just made no sense. I felt like lazy writing but hopefully for my sake and the ones who live they kill off Ricky similarly to how he did in the comics.
If you don’t like the franchise anymore then just don’t watch it, why do you care if there’s still millions of people who love the franchise? Variant walkers aren’t goofy at all, it’s actually pretty close to what happens to deadly viruses and pathogens in real life. As they get spread around farther and have survived longer, they also adapt to their surroundings and host availability to further their cause of infecting any living hosts. Sounds like you just don’t like the show anymore personally which means just don’t watch anymore instead of trying to speak for an entire fan base of millions of people. Not even the nocbro guys agree with you they like variants
I really missed you guys talking about the comics. Reading the comics really brings me back to my early days of secondary school (middle school) when I got into it thanks to my old art teacher. I would LOVE to hear your guys' opinions on the differences between the comic and the show.
For me, I think the earlier changed really worked, like the addition of Daryl and Merle, and the CDC, but the further it went on the less it worked in my mind.
The space spore concept was first hinted in George Romero's "Night of the Living Dead". I thought the variant concept revived the audience, in which the dead was starting to get predictable. This was first explored in Romero's "Land of the Dead" and "Day of the Dead". I liked the variants of "Daryl Dixon" and I can see how they could appear in "The Ones Who Live" in the future, if Carol rescues Daryl and returns to the Commonwealth, followed by the French scientist government and an army of variants. The CRM is not dead, either. There is Portland and if "World Beyond" is still pertinent to the story, there could be a connection to France, to Albany, to NYC where Negan is at, via the port city in Maine. It could work if the writers work harder to connect all the spinoffs. I think fans want to see Judith, Father Gabriel, Princess, Aaron, Ezekiel, Eugene and Mercer again.
I just hope they don't go too far like resident evil zombies 🤦🏾
Yessss pls make a video about the show and comic differences would be awesome
I understand focusing on survival and the characters but I think we're to a point in the story where they've done just about all they can with that. We already love the characters now give us some cool action and things we haven't seen before so personally I'm all for the variants. It's something fresh, exciting, and adds that level of fear back into the show.
7:00 Robert actually wrote a comic recently called Rick Grimes 2000 that is about the aliens that caused the zombies
would love a video covering the comic/show differences!!
Technically in Day of the Dead. Romero's 3rd film. (The movies that Kirkman loved) There is a zombie that was smarter and pulling a trigger and aiming the gun ...So I guess that would be considered a variant. But it really doesn't mean Kirkman ever wanted that. So anyways. Great video guys.
To his credit, I wasn't a fan initially but they have done fairly well, so I'm cool with it now.
Well to be fair i was not sold on how Kirkman ended the whisperer arc in favor of shoehorning the commonwealth arc which is subpar in both the comics and show, he shouldn't be surprised that the showrunners and or AMC started using ideas that weren't from the comics since they are planning on milking it as long as possible. Varients can 100% work despite them not being present for the majority of the series but we need the writing around them to be significantly better which I'm not sure they're capable of, it's like they don't know how to have a new threat without killing them a few episodes later or teasing them constantly or underutilizing them. The ones who live had ZERO varients WHY? That alone could've elevated the last 2 episodes.
I just don't care for Variants , not really what Robert Kirkman's Story is about!
@@karengoldenthal2889then don’t watch the show !
Definitely want the video if differences between comics & show.
I wish the variants had been scattered throughout all of the seasons gradually becoming more prevalent to keep the level of fear/jeopardy building.
And it should’ve been linked into World Beyond are their testing on Walkers & also the French angle even if just briefly
They didn't throw the variants in guys !!.
All the way back in SEASON 1 of the original show there were hints of their existence.
Walker Jenny Jones (Morgan's undead wife) MIRACULOUSLY remembers how to TURN a doorknob !?.
In episode 2 "Guts" we actually SEE some zombies PICKING UP objects.
As much as people like to deny it, their appearance was teased YEARS ago !!.
Different show runner in first 2 seasons
@@DukeJimbob
And different showrunners in season 3, 9, 10 & 11. Not sure what your point is ??.
It's still one and the same show with Robert Kirkman being Scott Gimple's councilman.
@@schlock159 not sure how to spell it out any simpler, they changed show runners in season 3 and that’s when they changed the Walkers behavior and then they changed show runners again in season 9 and changed their behavior again. Do you understand yet??!
Yes they did but in season 1 Frank Darabont was the showrunner and they hadn't quite established all the exact rules of what the Walkers can and cannot do. They weren't variants they just weren't established yet then in season 2 all that went away
@@DukeJimbobI left a similar comment below but it is true they were not variants. The exact rules for the Walkers weren't quite set in stone in season 1. Greg nicotero even verified it in Talking Dead saying I wish I could say we hinted at them back then but it's just not the case
One difference being lizzie replacing the twin boys in a way how one of the boys was messed up and the group was talking about what should be done and Carl takes it into his own hands
Im collecting all the covers from The Walking Dead Deluxe . Just picked up issue 89. Its sooo expensive and crazy but I cant stop. 🤪
If they had gave Andrea a Carol type arc the the Andrea character could've been saved.
I think they just wrote Andrea really bad!
I wasn't too upset with Carl's death 🙉🙊🙈
Missed u guys ❤
Ok what about the last episode where the zombies were climbing at the commonwealth and Neagan was like wtf
Kirkman said deluxe isn’t getting any collected additions
It would be awesome to talk about the difference in the comics and show their is a lot to know about the different deaths and different directions the comic and show went
Plus the variants would have posed a threat to the whispers so it would be after that
I couldn't believe that the "show runner" had so much say in who dies ... Carl ... very bad idea to kill him off ... he should've lived. Kirkman should have that say. It's his story.
Yes make more content on what was really bad for the show !!!
Variants are fresh and will make the walking dead series more interesting going forward, the slow zombies just aren't much a threat and they only kill people by magically sneaking up on people which is lame
Yes I want that video Jerell!!!!!
Let's remember that in Season 1 the walkers also picked up rocks and climbed fences and steps. Morgan's wife climbed the steps to the house, tried to look through the peep hole and turned the doorknob. The walker at the department store used a brick to get in, then one later climbed the fence trying to get to Glen & Rick as they ran to the van covered in walker guts lastly they climbed the stairs to the rooftop where Merle was. It's like Season 11 brought them back for throwbacks to Season 1.
Yes they did but in season 1 Frank Darabont was the showrunner and they hadn't quite established all the exact rules of what the Walkers can and cannot do. They weren't variants they just weren't established yet then in season 2 all that went away
@@Father_Daniel definitely a missed opportunity because that would have kept the show interesting and fresh when it started to be not so interesting.
Not sure if this was intentional, or a goof, but in season three, a walker literally bends a piece of metal in Woodbury so he can get through
Andrea did get ploughed by the Governor
Also zombies using tools is pretty lame. That takes away from the terror of the whisperers in my opinion. Thats what made the whisperers so creepy, to see a zombie...holding a fuckin knife, then you realize it's not a zombie! Climbing and shit is pretty cool, and if they run that's awesome, but don't have them bend over and pick up a fuckin rock. That's the first thing I noticed in season 1 back in the day that I was like "oh this is stupid now" when the zombie was hitting the window with a rock. I was able to overlook it and still like the show though
i had 2 twd channels on my UA-cam tv, i just noticed them the other day, one is the walking dead channel and the other is the walking dead universe channel
Loving Black Summer like we do, just makes us want more runners! TWD should have either introduced variants earlier or not at all. 🎉
19:00 that channel is also on samsung tvs
Please do interview with vampire 🦇 on AMC it's so good.
Andrea was also with T-Dog. Rick and Shane was walking through the woods and they caught them fooling around they had their clothes hanging off a tree branch. S2: E5 Chupavabra
Pluto TV marathons almost all of the Walking Dead universe.
I think it would be cool to see you guys re-watch & react to the walking dead episodes and compare them to the comic books
A big missed opportunity to me is Robert Kirkman not giving Rick and Andrea kids in the comic books
He regrets not putting Rick and Michonne together in the comics so that's that💀
@@Iletyoulive who said that?
@@thewonderingwolf6509 Robert kirkman
@@Iletyoulive i haven't heard that
@@thewonderingwolf6509 well now you have
Wheres the best place to buy the comics
Ebay now cause comic book stores will be wanting ridiculous prices if they have them
@DukeJimbob ah right, thank you
Variants are much more interesting than the boring ones we've had since season 3-8. Shit if it had been a variant that bit Carl, I might've seen that death in a better light.
Facts Carl should not of gotten taken down by a measly shambling walker
yes i and an endrea video please lot shes gone so long I don't even know how to spell her name anymore.
I think the show gets way too much hate for being different from the comic but news flash kirkman didn’t have to pay several actors and actresses and various other obstacles that goes into running a show totally different he can’t write characters anyway he wants totally different bringing it to life it’s a reason almost every adaptation is different from source materials
Um the Daryl Dixon spin off?
More talk please
I'm not so sure I care what Kirkman thinks about anything at this point. The way he abandoned the comic project and just wrote a crappy ending to get it over with.
Ever notice that’s all TWDU does is TEASE stuff? It’s very fucking annoying. They hype everything up, build it up, say or show that it’s coming, then it either doesn’t come, it’s underwhelming af, or it’s not done well. Every. Single. Time.
So does no one remember that the only reason we have variants is because we started hearing about COVID variants in 2021. TWD producers must have thought then - he guys remember those variants in Season 1 that we ignored for years. Let’s bring them back
We have variants because virus variants became popular knowledge with COVID
I get why yall don’t post a lot but it’s sucks man
The issue with TWD is that it took a long time for it to evolve, the plot was pretty much the same for many seasons.