The Floral Shoppe Vinyl Record Controversy: A Vaporwave Story
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- Опубліковано 10 бер 2018
- How did the vinyl record release of Floral Shoppe by Macintosh Plus turn the Vaporwave community upside down? Let's check it out with a complete breakdown of the Olde English Spelling Bee's Macintosh Plus' Floral Shoppe vinyl pressing from beginning to end, from hype to controversy, disappointments to happiness, and everything in between.
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One of my favorite pressings of 2017, sounds absolutely incredible and really wanted to make a video time-lining and going in depth on this entire journey of the pressing.
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A big shout out to Vektroid and Todd from Olde English Spelling Bee, Vektroid your music continues to inspire many and Todd, the vinyl sounds great. Excited to see future releases from each of them! Check out their stuff here:
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sometimes i literally forget that i ordered this record
Yerp Ian, August felt so long ago...hopefully you get it soon and it'll atleast be a surprise waiting on your door step
Have you gotten it?
Did I you get it???
@@PadChennington Still haven't recieved mine
I’m still waiting mine too :/ 2 years waiting...
You sound like a more tolerable version of Chills from Top15s.
N U M B E R 1 5 B U R G E R K I N G F O O T L E T T U C E
THELASTTHINGYOUDWANTINYOURBURGERKINGBURGERISSOMEONEELSESFOOTFUNGUSBUTASITTURNSOUTTHATMIGHTBEWHATYOUGET
YES FUKCINH YES I WAS LITTERLY JUST COMING TO COMENT ABOUT THAT LAMO
I just said that in his other video lol. They have the same monotonous voice but at least he knows when to pause unlike Chills.
that was my first thought when i heard him start talking XD
There exists a vinyl of them?
*Breathes in debts*
boi I know. my wallet from vaporwave 2017-2018 looks like a damn raisin at this point, its malnourished and shriveled.
Ordered August 6th. Still waiting for a shipping confirmation...
Vapor Memory Rip dude
Got my refund at this point
holy shit! It’s kinda sad because I ordered one on Shopify and one back in November. I just got a confirmation email yesterday that my vinyl had shipped and is expected to arrive Thursday
Same here man, ordered on day 1. However I am in Australia so I am expecting mine to be the very last one sent lol
Still waiting on this as well as Dragon Soul and Human Story 3. It's been over a year since I bought DS/HS3.
I found this at my local record store for $30. I didnt know it had such a crazy story behind it. Awesome.
local record store??? $30??? what kinda place do u live at bro?? sheesh
@@mjv2011 this record will always be on the expensive end of the spectrum.
Same lol literally just now
Same here. Though its not the pink tinted Olde English Spelling Bee version though it does feature the 3 hidden tracks from that pressing so there's that
@@gonlegos That's the normal price for a single LP now where I'm at.
I'm literally pressing keys on my keyboard right now
Lmaoooo I’m sorry brotha u right!
The whole album on UA-cam was removed...
yep...crazy stuff!
Nope
For people who haven't received their album, file a paypal claim. I ordered in August and never received my copy. The news is that OESB never even paid the pressing plant for the album forcing the pressing plant to sell off their supply to other record shops / distributors to help pay for the production. Being said, there is a chance OESB does not even have any copies of this in stock anymore and even once their PayPal funds become unfreezed, they will not be able to fulfill orders anyway. Todd, the owner of OESB is way too in his head to announce this officially because he really dropped the ball on this release and is likely to embarrassed. Especially after leading on his customers for so long. He is pretty much robbing people of their money at this point. Bandcamp banned him from selling on their website in the future.
Thanks for this. A little annoyed that this video was not about criticizing. I was totally robbed; and I’m still angry about it
"Hurricane Ear-Ma"
I remember ordering this. The bundle with Dream Castle. Sure the package arrived but instead of the stuff i ordered, i received Tanning Salon and a completely unrelated album in a black and white paper cover. If you want i can upload these pictures
I found a clear variant with a poster at a used record shop, it was for some reason sealed & put in a crate behind a full crate on the floor under all of his used records, which is crazy. I didn’t know much about records it was one of my first couple records. Very happy i have it
This was in late 2019
I wandered into all this innocently last week when I heard Floral Shoppe for the first time. Went to the itunes store to buy it (how futile that seems now), when that didn't work, I went to Bandcamp and made many frustrating, baffling attempts to buy it. Then I discovered I was only at the beginning of a long story..
can you believe it, floral shoppe was released 7 years ago!
crazzyyyy right?
I can't believe that my brother showed me it back then, but I didn't get into vaporwave until last year. =\
Vektroid is still active streaming on twitch regularly! Her latest album Seed & Synthetic Earth was released in 2017 and it's her best body of work in my opinion.
Yeah. She got majorly hit by the controversy despite not having really too much to do with it.
"Her" Uhhh, bro... I hate to tell you this but...
@@koolaidblack7697Pathetic nobody vs genre-defining artist 10/10
@@An0xymoron127More accurately, "man vs man who made successful music 10 years ago"
@@koolaidblack7697 And what are your successes, halfman?
I’m so so happy that I stumbled upon your channel. I haven’t seen another youtuber go so in depth in vaporwave and all its microgenres. I’ve been making electronic music for about three years now and watching your history lessons has been eye opening and inspiring.
When I recommended you make a video about this topic on your previous video, I didn't expect you to actually do it. Thanks for listening to your community, love ya!
No no thank you! I'll always be here for y'all
I wish they pressed Mathematics with the proper speed. Vektroid slowed down the tracks Library and Mathematics on the cassette release and I guess the master for the vinyl record was based off of that. :/
Something about this album really resonates with me. I used to walk through old junk stores and flea markets, and see mostly old forgotten 90s appliances, video games, cassette tapes, and video tapes.
There was this one store that I went to that had these weird Japanese knock off brands (some of the labels weren't even in English) and the whole store was monitored from this ancient desktop. This album is the kind of thing I'd find in that store.
This album always reminds me of the startup of like some 90's educational CD-rom disk you'd play in a computer class in elementary school...thats what sold me on it immediately!
A really messed up CD, at that! I get those vibes from Catsystemcorp’s work and HOMETM more than I do Floral Shoppe, but to each their own I guess.
15 minutes? *Y E S*
boiiii u kno
Very good video pad! Good job! Still waiting for my record but I can be patient!
Thanks DD! best of luck my dude.
Dear Chab, this is a good video. Thank you for keeping on to keep on. You are the dubstep master.
Yes
much thanks. be prepared for my next video, a 5 hour surgical breakdown of reptile by skrillex.
Why not on cassette ??????? how about THAT I don't have a 300 dollars to throw away on a record player but I do have 2 dollars to buy a cassette player m8 what the frikkking HE Kk
consumerism
What ?
Dude, you can buy vinyl record players for as little as 30 bucks. I bought mine for 60. Looks like a suitcase and I can take it places.
@@AugustDreamScape So it's one of those that will destroy your albums. sounds like a poor decision. just buy a vintage player.
loli moka there are suitcase record players in n Amazon for $30 in 27 different colors
My brother and Dad were in a record shop in Estonia and they found it, my brother was screaming lol
Great video! How do you like your RT 80? I just reviewed the 81 and I really like it. Seems like basically the same deck with some minor upgrades
Just like to say as well. Awesome video man, very well thought out and delivered. Bravo!
Thank you :)
I wish I could get this record. but now it sells on places like eBay for up to like $400. makes me sad, wish they could do a repress for like a record store day or something.
I bought one for 40$ recently
yeah there were a ton of copies at a local store near me for $35 each
My wife ordered mine for a Birthday Present, i am so glad too have this masterpiece of an lp.
You married a great woman my friend!
One of the main questions I'd like an answer to is: Has anyone outside the US received theirs yet?
As of right now I don't think anyone outside the US has? not sure though, thats what I've been seeing throughout reddit.
nopez
i hadnt recived mine yet...
Order mine on first day. Nope, still didn't get my album
Any follow up since I posted this comment?
11:14 i want an update on that user, because i discussed finding the location of OESB HQ with them. haven't heard from since. still down with finding out their location.
9 months, 4 days
Wouldn’t it be more vaporwave if it were released on cassette?
Floral shoppe was realeased on cassette
I listen to Floral Shoppe on my drive home from work during late, rainy nights.
Hope you guys get your vinyls soon!
Another well done video, Pad!
*records or *vinyl Records. Please don't say "vinyls"
SirSpicy ok, sorry D:
Say vinyls.
I believe its vinylings
Thanks!!
ooh boy this one's gonna be spicy
u better have had some milk to tame the burn
This dude sounds like behind the meme
Happy 1 year anniversary guys
what a damn journey huh? lmao...crazy stuff..
Glad to see you have a copy though. NEVER LET IT GO haha
oh roomy bb u know I got this thing on like lockdown hahaha...never gonna leave my sight.
I was fortunate to get one of the new orders long after August (January 14 this year), which may have been made available due to someone else cancelling theirs. And I am still waiting for mine.
As someone who has worked in some form of customer service, I understand the tug of war that occurs when dealing with two parties: the payer and the payee. While I can understand the emotions that can arise, I also think it’s important to solve the problem and not let the emotions get the best of either party. I am definitely not excusing Todd’s actions (or sometimes lack of action) that are questionable at best and objectionable at worst. But a business involves a process and it should be kept if anything is to get done. At the same time, one would hope one can learn from these mishaps and snags to make the whole process better for them or for others.
All that said, I hope to get the vinyl sooner rather than later =]
P.S. My concern is still dealing with bootlegs. After all, there is still that Eccojams vinyl on Bandcamp open. And sadly, OPN changed his merch store and thus took down the master cassette rip of Eccojams, which was the only guaranteed way to get it (as in you know this has the correct playback speed).
Great comment man..
"a business involves a process and it should be kept if anything is to get done"
I 100% agree here, its just all such a tricky situation. Obviously its a must to hit those dates to ship, as thats what you promised the people after taking their $$$, but the PayPal problems and everything that ensued made it troublesome, its a tough subject
And I do get the delicacies involved in that situation. Plus if this is a fire, the first priority is to put out the fire and *then* you can start talking about what had happened.
In the end, as long as the problem gets solved, that's what matters. If something is gained that will make the next go-around better, then that's an improvement all around.
The Disney cartoon Gravity Falls is getting vinyl release of its OST and the situation with it has played out eerily similar to the Floral Shoppe vinyl situation. It's been 2 years and still nothing from iam8bit beyond promo art, a few released songs and a possible shipping date...the 3rd one they've promised and yet to deliver.
Never forget the Dragon Soul vinyl pre-orders lmao
Also, don't forget those who bought Human Story 3 vinyl.
Vusan97 buying physical copies from small labels is a gamble. and from what I’ve seen, OSBE is really sketchy.
Yeah, i agree. I did buy the Floral Shoppe vinyl last week from Shopify. Because fuck it, it's "just" 23 dollars. I have blown money on much worse shit.
I don't even want to remotely approach that entire fiasco lmaooo
Love your videos!!! Good stuff!!
Thanks Pat!
Gary Wilson did "vaporwave" in 1977.
Thanks for introducing me to an awesome musician!
"Vaporwave" isn't necessarily just about the musical tropes, but more of a testament to how a community can ban together to create a musical movement completely organically without any corporate help. This doesn't happen often and definitely hasn't happened like this before (being a net centric self-grown genre). This album and other early releases are essentially proto-wave when compared to what it's become today, so this video isn't purely indicative of what vapour really is.
Jean-Jaques Perrey did "The Amazing New Electronic Pop Sound Of Jean-Jaques Perrey" in 1968. Not really related. Nor was the artist (and the album youre most likely talking of) really that relevant. Sure it sounds similar, but whats known as Vaporwave today isnt what Gary Wilson created back then.
gary wilson is so tight dude
What a well made video! Great content man, keep up the good work!
Thanks! :)
I love how in-depth your videos are. A real internet-historian!
Just to add to the pile; I ordered on August 6th, 2017 and am still waiting patiently. I’m in Canada. I don’t doubt that I’ll eventually eat my copy, it’s just a hard waiting game to play with this particular release. Great vid Pad, thanks for documenting!
Thanks Dustin for watching! And best of luck, hope you get it soon dude
Dude I love your channel. I've been writing music for 20+ years and your channel has showed me another window.
man i have been part of the community since like 2012. There were never any channels about the community with someone in it. I'm glad i found this channel!!
I just wanna my hamburger from the seventies
That would be extremely hazardous for your health my friend
True that, how are you even gonna that hamburger?
What
Mine shipped Tuesday, can't wait
Same I ordered first restock I think in same week of the release and still no luck.
Rile River 2/26, honestly I could have waited until after all the Bandcamp orders but I know some Bandcamp orders are still going out
Awesome! Enjoy the record when you get it!
Pad Chennington it just arrived, can't wait to get home 😩
I ordered in November and even though with all the negativity im still gonna wait. none the less amazing vid.
Best of luck Swanky, and thanks a plenty. Hope you get it soon!
It was an absolute treat to help out with the video! Thanks for having me on board my man.
ayy Cardy thank you my dude!
atleast it wasnt as long of a wait as SZA’s signed vinyl. over a year man..
ouch :/
Ordered it in September, and still waiting. I'm not as concerned with another delay, but lately I've been having really bad luck with recent orders, coming warped while in transit. If this happens, it means I'll have no chance of replacing it.
i feel like im getting in on the ground floor of a great YT channel. keep up the quality vids :)
thanks Shea!
I saw the G+ logo and teared up. Rip
Still waiting for my Dragon Soul tape.
:/ hope it comes soon my dude.
As someone who bought the vinyl from Shopify last week. I was very skeptical at first. Browsing through Reddit, a lot of people commented about not getting their records.
Ultimately, i just said fuck it and ordered it. This video makes me optimistic. Sure, the situation could have been handled better. Time is not a concern though. I will receive it someday.
But i feel sorry for those who pre-ordered from day one and still haven't got it. Even more, those who bought Dragon Soul and Human Story 3 records.
Thank you Pad for this video. Hopefully this will clear up some confusion around the OESB controversy.
Vusan97 could you link the Shopify page? I’m semi-interested in getting this album
Ask and you shall receive. Link: oesb-series-200.myshopify.com/collections/all
Yeah I ordered last week as well. Not expecting it anytime soon, but knowing that its coming and not having to spend hundreds of dollars on it from Discogs is worth it
Much worth it. Considering that one time a Floral Shoppe cassette was sold for 850 USD on Discogs.
Vusan97 if only they released the cassette again, too. That's the version I really want
i've had this video saved on my watch later for years and its sad to see the controversy is still going on
hey Pad! Love your videos, may I ask you where you get that wine box? Are u italian?😏
I ordered a restock on Bandcamp and one on Shopify, and got both on the same order. The shopify ones seem to be from the end of the run, as there's a a lot of pressing defects and it's super off center. But hey I still got it.
Pad - I'm curious to know your opinion on the recent takedown of the original Liza Frank 420 video, by Diana Ross' label? Do you think this is the first step to the official takeover of the industry on vaporwave?
As the genre grows larger and larger, its underground aura will slowly become more known and known. Because of this, I do think labels and artists will eventually see other artists who have grown from their work (without credit given) and try and fight back.
however, Vaporwave has always been such an interesting genre. We bathe in it's irony, notoriety, and just straight up ignorance towards contemporary and universally accepted rules in music, especially compared to way more commercialized music.
I think the video being taken down will have a reverse effect over time, it just mystifies the whole thing even more. Humans love things we can't have, we love the chase, and if a genre (if it were to) were to seemingly be "shut down" it would be so interesting to uncover, preserve and find ways to listen to. especially for people who are hearing about it now for the first time.
just my two cents :)
oooooh very cool. an interesting take, perhaps with more physical releases and more mainstream hype with the classics, the reactions that these labels take could need spark a brand new interest and vibe that we haven't seen before. if anything, it feels like a quasi proto-punk thing that could emerge. I taught a class at a university on this genre and its evolution. it's like liquid and i feel this whole thing will ooze into something more profound later on. all sparked on trolling and what Metal Gear Solid 2 predicted would happen. thank for your input!
i really love your vids dude
Thank you :)
Can i still get a pressing of this album? Floral shoppe was my introduction to vaporwave
I wouldn't hate on a small scale operation having hiccups myself, and I haven't ordered the vinyl so I'm not invested in this... BUT I don't think I've ever seen anything quite as nasty as his many angry, cursing, troll-like reddit comments. I thought people were hard on him before. Certainly he'd be forgiven by most if he apologized, explained and informed. But that shit on reddit made me genuinely baffled, and scared me out of ever wanting to buy anything from him. It wouldn't have been quite the scandal if it was just delays. The endless delays alone wouldn't have stopped me from ordering something I really want if I knew I would receive it at some point in the future. That tone though? Hell yeah. He'll never get my business. Has this guy ever been around actual people?
I feel ya my dude, understand your point of view on it and feelings towards the situation.
we are real. that's why you were scared. because most people are fake.
Do you have any information about where can I get this album sealed and brand new? Is it even possible?
I preordered two copies - one to play, one to frame. I finally got my package in January, only to find that I got a single copy.
However, I was reimbursed in full by PayPal, so the outcome was somewhat bittersweet for me. I have my one copy framed and hanging in my living room as a reminder of the journey we've all taken since August.
That's interesting, looks like you got the "good luck" treatment and the "OESB" treatment all in one package lmfao... haven't heard of that situation yet! I ordered 2, one for me and a good friend who was on vacation and I knew he would want one, and luckily got both in at the same time.
Pad Chennington For real haha. I'm almost tempted to give the Shopify link a shot because hey, I'd still be getting 2 for the price of 1.
Great video today, very informative and its nice to refresh my memory on all the happenings. I agree with some of the comments about Todd's presence on Reddit, i and the other mods received countless reports on him and i even had to send them an email to verify their validity lol, they confirmed it's official very hastily. Keep up the good work. - Mothmanlive
Ayy thanks as always Moth! Will do!
from "IT'S HAPPENING" to "WHAT'S HAPPENING?!" hahahaa I ordered mine on December so I'm not even anxious to get it, I shall wait! Great vid Pad, as always ♡
and thank you as always :) hopefully it gets to you soon!
Why are some florral shoppe covers printed darker than normal?
Hey Kev, so the original Floral Shoppe artwork is the lighter version and the darker, higher contrast one is the OESB version.
Thanks! I picked one up recently and was curious. Keep up the great work. I definitely look forward to more great content!
Ordered one from the Shopify store March 3rd. I know it will probably take months to get here, but am excited none the less
You'll probably be getting yours this month. He's fulfilling the MyShopify orders before the others, meaning that even those that ordered in August will get theirs after the aforementioned. =/
Nah you might get it pretty soon Ry! Shopify orders seem to (for the most part as of right now lol) be moving smoothly...
Well that's encouraging! Hope everyone gets their orders filled soon
Macintosh Plus was my ringtone for awhile and it still sends me into fight or flight mode every time I hear it lol.
I got really excited when I ran into a copy at Rough Trade East in London, completely in the wild, at a completely normal price. Mine is some black copy without any label mentioned.
What up, vaporbabe?
chillin hard waiting for the weekend wyd
I ordered mine on day 1 and received it at some point in late October/Early November if I remember correctly, honestly though, once I received it I didn't pay much attention to what was going on until months after all of the controversy. I definitely feel lucky to have received mine so fast especially since I ordered a second copy for a friend of mine. I play it every once in a while and it takes me back to some very good times, its definitely one of my favorites in my collection!
I randomly am looking at your videos on your channel and this is too lit to me that august 6th is my birthday and i happened to start being a late bloomer of vaporwave in 2017 lol weird !. My favorite genre is mallsoft ! Thinking of doing a blog post on my favorite mallsoft albums !
However I hate that you had to wait for your vinyl to arrive I don't even know how annoyed I would be waiting for mine to deliver to me I can barely deal with amazon being late especially when my mind is set up on it being here at a certain date lol.. Im looking to maybe buying vaporwave cassette tapes and maybe vinyls to as well to add to my nostalgia.
This is dope ! Keep up the dope work pad!
where did you get your vaporwave vinyl i need links !!!
Follow a bunch of artists and labels on band camp!
The floral shoppe vinyl was pressed by Olde English Spelling Bee.
does it tell you when they post something on their bandcamp?
My new favourite channel
Here today because Turntable Labs said they're making more copies of Floral Shoppe 🙏 let's hope this one goes better
I got one today, there's another press coming up in white vinyl and another in clear.
@@PumpkinPails Where can I get one?
@@gfmhd1280 keep an eye on Turntable Labs website, they've been repressing it. There was two pressings last month. If you're on Reddit subscribe to r/vaporvinyl and r/vinylreleases, they post when albums are coming up. Another option is eBay if you're willing to spend a little more.
@@PumpkinPails Thank you! will check it out.
Does anyone have a vaporwave and future funk playlist they could possibly share with me? I don't know too many artist and I don't know where I should start 😅😅
1968 ęčľűď check out my playlist vaporwave/future funk
@@daqaticus09 bro do you still have that playlist?
@@baivabjena1438 most def
@@baivabjena1438 ua-cam.com/play/PLpMMa8vHJw9hqV4jiY1FnSJqYInftDXCb.html
Still waiting patiently...Wish us all luck!
Best of luck Tania! Hope you get it soon, you're definitely going to love it. The pressing sounds killer.
It’ll always feel like HOME to us...I will always love this album...
Ordered this one 2 days ago on Red Eye Records. Fingers crossed I´m actually receiving something.
got mine 1 week after ordering, looks like I lucked out.
We're one of the luck ones :O
Great video once more Pad, judging by the thumbs-down, 70 people are still waiting for their Floral Shoppe vinyl
Just ordered mine in February and I didn't receive shit what should I do
October 2023 update. Mine still hasn’t come. I bought that with my first paycheque and ive had 4 jobs since then 😭
I feel you :/ after all of this time it seems like big chunk of people did not end up receiving their copies. there are second hand copies on eBay at least, which are unfortunately more expensive than they were at retail.
I’m having deja vu I think I dreamt that I was gonna watch this video it’s freaking me out
Still out here waiting I’m like the dog from that Japanese movie
Ordered like September 6th
Benny baby I still gotta see that movie haha I heard its pretty good...its the one with the dog at the train station right?
Anyone know where I can find an OG download of Floral Shoppe? It’s no longer available to buy on Bandcamp
check out BEER ON THE RUG :)
I’m a rock/punk/metal guy but this album really does it for me. Might be getting a copy of it but still deciding
I haven't received my copy yet. It probably is because I never bought one.
Still waiting since day one (August 6th). I've reached out to OESB several times through e-mail and social media. Nothing. It's easy to praise and say how great everything is when you've actually received a copy, but what this label is doing is just wrong, plain and simple. None of us care about excuses anymore--that time has passed.
Does anyone know when they are going to reprint it?
Found this video too late, Put in my email for an update of when they make more,
Hopefully they sell some more :(
Does anyone know what's the album on the right at 13:44?
A million miles away by Macross 82-99.
This album just showed up at my local record store. Couldn’t afford the high price tag but I felt like I was in the presence of Vaporwave god.
got 1of 2 that i ordered. Im still confused about the whole thing to this day.
6:27, anyone know wheres that sound effect from ?
I just discovered this album recently. I love it.
Is it still possible to buy the vinyl?
Has anyone in the southern region (specifically Texas) of the US received a shipping notification or their record?
TREEBUMPER54 Uber I'm in Louisiana and mine shipped
2020 and still no shipping confirmation
Hey that's pretty
Good
Also my boy Cardigan helped with this one, what a lad
oof