My favorite part of this debate is when can ham says to Bill Nye "you too can be saved" and Bill Nye just stares at him and instead of rejecting him he just says thank you and moves on and that was just a real human moment.
@@B1rdTheW0rdI can go ahead and tell you coming from a person who holds similar beliefs as nye, he couldn’t care less what religious people say. If you think he gives two craps about prayers you’re sadly mistaken bc he doesn’t care.
Because it’s kind of like a cheat. It’s kind of like two kids playing and one of them yells “I have a shield!”. It’s like a trump card with no basis in reality. He doesn’t really need an argument because he can just answer “because god” as if it answers a question without any evidence.
@@andrewmorse2181 Morality varies based on the person. Reality is not a word that does not pertain to people of your particular belief system. It’s not reality if you can’t explain or justify any of your claims. Purpose is subjective.
Matter and energy cannot be created nor destroyed, therefore no matter nor energy would’ve existed to do the causing. Consequently, whatever did cause the universe to exist, would need to be immaterial and exist beyond time and space! Genesis 1: 1 God creates time space and matter! Entropy is somewhat opposite of evolution and why did this come into the universe if everything’s getting better. Genesis 2:17 says death came into the universe through the first sin! First two chapters of the Bible not the 500th chapter or the thousandth chapter; explain what evolutionists have not explained;, The first two laws of thermodynamics! DNA does not auto encrypt, it did not write itself the code writer is outside of the code. 3300 billion lines of computer code in 1 humans DNA, would fill the Grand Canyon 50 times of Books, let alone plant and animal DNA and it did not write itself! One person‘s DNA could stretch to the sun and back 61 times! Psalm 139:16 “in my members you have written many books“. John 21:25 “I suppose everything Jesus did the world will not have enough room for the Books, telling of it“ Job 38:35 “were you there when I created the lightnings and they say ‘here we are!”’ This is God talking to Job! 3300 years later, James Maxwell discovers that light rays and electricity are two forms of the same thing! The Bible Predicted telecommunications
Which is exactly why I avoid these sorts of conversations. It really seems to me, when anything like this comes up, the participants NEVER listen to each other and consider their ideas AT ALL. Instead, they’re coming up with their rebuttal and just waiting (or not waiting and interrupting) for their turn to speak. For this reason, when I know I’m going to have a difficult conversation with my family or significant other, I ask them to listen to what I have to say, and to NOT RESPOND for at least 12-24 hours. The idea is to actually give another person’s idea the time of day and the consideration it deserves.
There was obvious tension and disagreement and even contempt for each other’s beliefs, but there were no raised voices, and everyone was allowed to talk.
But thats circular reasoning because he's saying that trees only grow 1 ring per year and therefore cannot grow more rings per year because that would mean it grows faster than it does, assuming that 1 ring per year is undeniable truth.
@@aeronblitz9347 if we observe trees always grow 1 ring per year at all times, we can *induce* tress grow 1 ring per year. We make regular inductions all the time, and if you want to be a cynic, all inductions arent good enough, since one case that proves these wrong causes the whole induction to fail. Personally, im not a cynic. If, for the hundreds of years we've been here, something always acts the same way, there is no reason to believe it would be any different in the past.
@@tonymaurice4157 no Abiogenesis haven't been proven completely, even though organic molecules have shown to start organizing by themselves without a wizard. But evolution has been proven and that alone disproves your Yahweh or Allah or whatever you worship.
@LVB🦅 You're just assuming it will be proven.. It's plagued with massive problems and the chemistry is highly manipulated.. You have no clue what you're talking about, Just another youtube atheist that has wishful thinking for your origin of life disaster!
@MEGA1FILM or is it so scary to you that you have spent years being close minded, and hearing someone use actual evidence to prove a point that you resort to petty verbal assault? Show with evidence that Bill is wrong in his claims. ... I'm waiting. Do more research. Read more than one book. Don't be afraid of change. It's gonna be okay. When you finally start thinking for yourself instead of blindly following these theist hacks you'll feel free. You'll discover a whole world of knowledge that has been hidden from you. Try to be open minded. Bill Nye is not the spokes person for science. He is just one person trying to help open eyes to the wonderful world of scientific research and discovery. It is amazing over here, come join us. :)
@@MEGA1FILM Dude Nye is the one that said evidence could sway his opinion. Ham is the one that said he would never change his beliefs no matter what evidence tells him. Who's really the one that can't fathom they could be wrong?
maybe what you heard was your parents DISAGREEING. in the old days, christians did not disagree. they just killed people for not agreeing with them. ken ham does not tend to mention those events but they are well documented and went on for well over 1500 years, beginning in the middle east, then to asia minor, then to europe and eventually to the occupied/colonized americas and asia where missionaries got cultural footholds. none of those "spreads" were by peaceful means. they began as military pursuits to increase controlled territory.
Ken literally talked about his legacy and leaving something for his kids in one part and then consistently asks Bill why anything matters if you just die and then your done.
@@jacrich699 Ham believes in god that’s why he wants to pass on legacy but Bill is saying that their is no god, which means we’re just here for no higher purpose. So then what’s the point of anything. What’s the point in even trying to make right in the world if it’s all pointless is what he’s getting at. It’s a rational question to point out his error in rational thinking. The comment makes no sense because they have two completely different views and he’s simply pointing out how illogical that we just go nowhere when we die.
Matter and energy cannot be created nor destroyed, therefore no matter nor energy would’ve existed to do the causing. Consequently, whatever did cause the universe to exist, would need to be immaterial and exist beyond time and space! Genesis 1: 1 God creates time space and matter! Entropy is somewhat opposite of evolution and why did this come into the universe if everything’s getting better. Genesis 2:17 says death came into the universe through the first sin! First two chapters of the Bible not the 500th chapter or the thousandth chapter; explain what evolutionists have not explained;, The first two laws of thermodynamics! DNA does not auto encrypt, it did not write itself the code writer is outside of the code. 3300 billion lines of computer code in 1 humans DNA, would fill the Grand Canyon 50 times of Books, let alone plant and animal DNA and it did not write itself! One person‘s DNA could stretch to the sun and back 61 times! Psalm 139:16 “in my members you have written many books“. John 21:25 “I suppose everything Jesus did the world will not have enough room for the Books, telling of it“ Job 38:35 “were you there when I created the lightnings and they say ‘here we are!”’ This is God talking to Job! 3300 years later, James Maxwell discovers that light rays and electricity are two forms of the same thing! The Bible Predicted telecommunications
@Savannah Stuart yes it does, their is no basis for what is moral or immoral, it makes it all relative with no higher truth, which we all know is bs 😂 plus your moral standards come from religion lol and your purpose is self made if there is no god, which means your making purpose literally to give meaning to your meaningless life. But with god everything has meaning.
@@reubenfreer3230 What a sad outlook, to derive all your morals and all your worth exclusively from religion. But only from the correct one... which of course is the one you subscribe to :) And of course only from one particular translation usually... and of course only the one correct denomination. What a great coincidence that people always stumble upon the correct faith, that's usually the one dominant in their community. Funny how that works.
It is very good to teach and preach the Bible. However, I wish someone would give Bill a good serious argument without ever going to the Bible. Real science versus make believe science. The Bible just makes him put his fingers in his ears and scream LA LA LA LA
@@michaelszczys8316That means (this person) would be appealing to a human authority, therefore dismissing God all together. To say another way such a person would be placing authority over God.
and science PRESUMES that current notions of causation could be ultimately discredited or outright disproven. in which case it would be necessary to further examine other related conclusions as they were subject to revision. the idea is that science SEEKS this ongoing re-evaluation. religion is notorious for violently rejecting it.
Science is man’s interpretation of the evidence and it has been wrong many, many times! What Bill accuses Ken as “miracles” to explain things science calls “mutations”. There is no evidence we came from bacteria. Science cannot prove that like Bill says.
Science always changes. The Ptolemaic understanding of the cosmos went for 1,500 years and then changed. It is said science is not a dogma. New information comes to light old 'facts' get revised. It is the very strength of science.
@@thatskasher This is where you fail, because you equate the weakness of man, to the attributes of God. God is power, a power we haven't yet discovered, nor may never will, but a power beyond sky people ability. Beyond the ability of absolutely nothing, coming into existence all on its own, with no volition or reason.
@@m.zacharias8952 so what hypothesis are you talking about? Big bang, evolution, carbon dating? I suggest studying Karl Popper to find the true definition of science. Since when mere opinions are regarded as hard sciences, Bill like many scientist-wannabe atheists are no more than clowns. Conspiring agendas based on opinions and forcing their atheistic beliefs on the most impressionable minds of children in colleges is not science but propaganda, can't you see; societies, communities, and families are being destroyed in the name of spreading genes. They do worship a god, its name is Darwin.
@@ITGOES80808 Evolution is fake. Species adaptation is real. It is way too hard for a species to turn into a new species by random chance even over millions of years.
Nye: You start with a belief. I start with evidence. Ham: Where is your proof that life arose from natural causes? Nye: We haven’t proven it. Ham: Then that’s a belief. Nye: You don’t understand science. Me: 😂
Bill Nye made a mistake my letting Ken continually steamroll over him every time he would try to make a point. Ken keeps making up some divide in science called observational science and historical science which has been directly refuted on numerous times. Because he wants to continue decieving people with this and we know this. I shouldn't bother even trying to convince him but maybe I can get to some of his followers. Its not just evolution that refutes the bible, its mountains of evidence in every major field of study. Its why despite what ken ham says, droves of people are leaving the faith the more they understand science. Our knowledge of evolution is litterally the foundation for our knowledge of biology. This is why we have vaccines for viruses that used to kill many people each year. Science did that. Not praying to god. Viruses arent technically alive so they dont technically undergo evolution in the common sense, but the same mechanics apply. Mutations in the DNA of the virus cause changes in the virus. Thats why we need to renew our shots every so often because the virus chsnges enough to where our body doesnt recognise it anymore. Surely anyone looking can accept this right? The same things happen with bacteria which are alive. The reason antibiotic resistant superbacteria exist is because when people dont take their full prescription of a certain antibiotic, and just stop when they feel better, they leave alive the bacteria that were more resistant to that antibiotic Which lets them proliferate and now you have stronger bacteria that are more resistant to a particular drug. Now you have evidence of evolution by natural selection. Because life changes. Ive also seen ken ham make up some arbitrary divide between evolution called micro and macro evolution. Evolution is just evolution. Change is just change. The only difference is time span. Many small changes compiled atop generations leads to more differences between the parent and daughter generations. And yet he continues to put some invisible limit on how much change can occur. Dont you see thats ridiculous?
Bill nye like every other scientist starts with a question. Which is then turned into an experiment to answer the question. If this, then this, because this. His belief system is built by evidence from experiments. Whereas Kens belief system is built off "the bible told me so" which every Christian somehow conciders a 2000 year old book written by numerous people that never actually contains any timeless wisdom other that obvious ones like killing is bad. Duh killing is bad. No-one needs god to say that. The fact that god chose a book of words to communicate to people rather than a mass transmission of understanding is prove against itself alone. Written words are flawed being they're so up for interpretation. Just think about how Catholics, jews, Baptists, Mormons and jehovah witnesses all read the same book and yet if you were to put them in a conference room they would argue calling eachother wrong and claiming to have knowledge of the one true god. Words are limited in their ability to communicate, and an omniscient being could surely think of a better way. Even I can. If I had a message I wanted to convey to people, like god to the world of sinners, I would use my powers to share my understanding, my feelings, my rationale and my emotions directly to the people so they know my thought process directly. This will allow them to directly understand my entire rationale on any particular subject. Rather than a book that can be so wildly interpreted.
@alexanderdenney6255 Ken Ham really did steamroll Bill Nye didn’t he? It just shows that atheists and agnostics have a blind faith. I mean Ken Ham is more fit to be the science guy since he actually has a degree in Biology.
This is a classic strawman. Ken appeals to the evidence of creation within our dimension (DNA, Sociology, "Natural" Laws, etc.) as a foundation for his belief in a creator (Law of Causality). Bill Nye is proudly making a claim that there is no God (atheism), which is not the same as humbly saying "I don't know" (agnosticism).
Ken is saying that he starts with a belief in the Bible and God can do anything he wants to. Bill is trying to say he starts with the evidence, but in reality he is probably simply starting with his belief in evolution.
Actually I never heard Ken say that there is no proof. If you assume that God exists, the whole universe becomes proof of his existence. I just wonder why Bill hates God enough to want to argue him out of existence. Maybe he views the world through the lens of a bad personal experience. My heart goes out to him, but he needs to think differently.
His “when you die your done” question can be one simple answer: I don’t want future people to endure suffering based on my selfish choices in this life. Period.
Nobody, not one person anywhere on this earth, is now or ever will suffer from climate change, especially if you believe in what Nye is preaching. If you do, you MUST believe that people will evolve to be able to thrive in whatever climate the world throws at them. If the oceans rise, people and animals will adapt and reorganize themselves. Science tells is that has ALWAYS been the case, but it will no longer be the case going forward. It’s a moronic argument.
But why does suffering matter? Who cares if it doesn’t matter in the end? If we have no purpose, then why not let everyone suffer? According to the belief in nothing, it doesn’t matter. We’d all end up in non existence anyway, no matter what.
@@lordzanthartehallen8963 and empathy came out of a void of nothingness? Out of tiny little particle fluctuations? Empathy is only from God. The Bible says we are made in His likeness. We are like God to a certain point, as in we are capable of having some of the same attributes. For example, empathy. So without God, we have no emotion.
I watched this debate live as an early teenager with my family. I liked reading Creation magazine as a kid, (I was even featured in one of their cartoons once after my mother contacted them telling them that all I would read was their magazines. I believe it was a picture of me -- a generic teenage looking boy, sitting in a beanbag with headphones on, reading creation magazine, and I was saying something like, "Hey mum! Creation Magazine is the most educational thing you've ever invested in!") because it was full of interesting science, albeit with an agenda appended. Having never heard science be presented by anyone other than people affiliated with Answers in Genisis, I was struck with how open-minded and factual Bill Nye was. It is no coincidence that now, years later, I have left the church behind me, and am studying to be a physicist. Thank you Bill Nye, I'm sure I'm not the only one whose mind was changed that day.
Bill Nye is literally the Bob Vila of scientists, meaning he's got as much credibility as Bob Vila was as carpenter. Bob Vila was just tv carpenter and not a real carpenter. In fact he was so bad at hammering a single nail that they had to do multiple takes for him to get it right. In fact the tv show "Home Improvement" staring Tim Allen was a complete parody on Bob Vila from the home improvement show"This Old House".
Congratulations to both gentlemen for being gentle men! Regarding Bill, I noticed he was kind of pleased with the thought that after death he is not quite done, but he seemed a bit worried a while later when he heard about second death... 😳
Ham asks a question, Nye answers. Nye asks a question, Ham avoids/ignores the question and asks his own question to redirect/misdirect the conversation. Bill Nye was so patient in his responses and tolerant of Ham constantly interrupting him. Think about it guys, what reason would someone have in avoiding simple, logical, practical questions? Because that person doesn't have a reasonable answer. Plain and simple.
I understand that you are brainwashed and ignorant, just saying the word "evidence" isn't evidence. The fact is that there is not a single person on earth that can explain how life developed from nonlife.
He’s trying to ask Nye specific questions that lead him back to the Bible. He’s witnessing. Nye’s questions are mostly irrelevant to eternal salvation.
The only scientists that disagree with the theory of evolution are people who base of a book of unverified nonsense they will say the demonstrations of evolution done IN THE LAB are not a change in kind and will then refuse to answer what a kind even is, so in this regard they are incompetent
@@bilbothegamerandtraveler2634 It is the assumption that only scientists that support Ken's arguments are the incompetent ones. And it is, "There ARE no incompetent scientists?"
@@bilbothegamerandtraveler2634 That's right. If you're incompetent, you will get the wrong answer, and be quickly exposed by your fellows. That's how peer-review works.
He is very snarky and bitter. This should be easy to see. I would describe his as respectful. He is very condescending whereas Ken is consistently trying to invite him to be open to his perspective. “Betraying your intellect… it’s frustrating.” Says Bill.
@@BobbyChastainKen’s perspective is insane and childish . He dosent care for actual Evidence like bill and is only saying “ well my book says this and I’m crazy enough to believe It” . Anyone can believe what they want but bill as a scientist knows that what Ken is saying is crazy and it’s disgusting how these people put this mythical garbage in kids heads
@@gweilospur5877 Bill said "well of course, there's a few of us that seem like lizards." Directly insulting Ken, and Ken ignores it and continues on in his attempt to have a rational discussion. Start at 0:30
"How can Ken point to the girl and say to Bill 'Is she an animal'" The mechanism is fairly complex so it is probably something best left to your doctoral thesis in neurology. Or just go with the answer, Yes, she is a mammal.
@marsmars9130 Good point. Strange how we live in a time where we supposedly can't know a girl is a girl, but the science on where we came from and how is so settled that we can't possibly believe it required actual intelligence to create everything we see, hear, touch, taste, feel and experience. Hmmm...
Nye - if we can’t explain something we work at it until we can. Hamm - if I don’t know something, therefore god. Nye is logical. Hamm is hopeful. Nye attacks ideas/hypotheses until it is shaped into something you can’t disprove. Hamm is trying to confirm his ideas with the end result in mind.
Lol. I grew up in the church and have met many believers in my walk of faith. That’s not true at all. Majority of Christians don’t make any money off of it.
Use your own eyes. No country has ever built an all wood ship the size of the Ark. What you can see is a poured concrete foundation, beam on post framing, bolted and articulated steel gussets, etc. The structure was built like a barn/building and decorated to look like a ship.
yep and the back side of it, is supported by a modern hotel, including a stairwell made of steel-reinforced concrete. Naturally the PR images do not show you that, but the sat view on google maps/earth will absolutely show it. It is a sham.
@@jesse1441 no, the state of kentucky required it to be enforced by materials NOT KNOWN IN 5000 BC, just to be safe enough for people to be inside it. Otherwise it would have collapsed under its own weight and still could, except Kentucky is not especially known for earthquakes. Remember, this "ship" supposedly sailed for at least a month in less-than-calm waters and supposedly survived violent storms. I really doubt that is accurate.
@@sixxfinga1864not a scientist. Amongst those who boast the nomen of scientist, we all maintain scholarly work and credentials. He does not publish. Sure, you can say he studied science and makes science work as an engineer, but he does not conduct research or engage in the scientific process beyond the point of theory.
Ah yes, the science that uses evidence rather than fairytales is so stupid lol. I don’t like looking at facts, I’d rather believe in stuff that’s impossible to prove. There’s no reason to believe the earth is 6000 years old, but I believe it!!
For over a millennia, people have turned to supernatural phenomena to explain the world around them. People praised the sun, moon, and stars as gods. Protestant Christians believed that other worlds and the sun rotated around Earth, which was a very self-centered view. In a time where religion was heavily present, people came up with a new way to think of the world. A way of questioning things through rigorous testing and proof. This was the scientific method. Galileo, the inventor of one of the first telescopes, was one of the first to challenge these beliefs. He proved that the Earth and other planets were the ones actually rotating around the sun, not the other way around. This man was way ahead of time, so far that the people of his time could not understand. As a result, he was punished; confined to his house until he died. The more we learn about the world through a logical and objective lens, the less we are inclined to blindly follow set traditions. Science in not a tradition or a religion. Its a way of thinking; method/test. Its used to prove things, explore questions, explain phenomena. Religion has failed that test. We have even gone to the moon. There is no existence of a moon god. Another problem is that what we know in science is factual. There are a lot of things we don't know and we aren't afraid to admit it. You can challenge the ideas in science, and if proven right, you will be awarded a Nobel Prize and your name will forever be embedded in history. If you want another reason to prove science's validity, then look around. The cars you drive, the houses you live in, phones, etc. I'm currently in mechanical engineering technologies and we learn about statics, strength of materials, and materials science. These are vital topics in civil engineering as well and especially in building houses/bridges. We study and analyze the forces and stresses that may be on certain structures, which are invisible entities. We don't see forces, we don't see gravity, but we have made a system that works. It has worked time and time again. You living in a safe home is the result of this. Everything around you that has been synthetically produced was the result of science. Even medicine.
@@official2mt37 And who put that quantum state there? , If there was something, something or someone made it. If there was nothing, and then something appears, someone made it.
The second law of thermodynamics holds that entropy increases; that is, systems over time become more disordered. Therefore, both evolutionary theory and the second law of thermodynamics cannot both be correct. … just a thought
ONLY in a closed environment.....that wonderful energy generator the Sun makes earth an open environment......please dont ape the incompetent creationist pseudo scientists.
You have to take into account closed systems vs open systems. Plus, don't you worry, disorder is coming. The sun will burn out. The universe will expand infinitely into nothingness. There's no contradiction
@@BrianBadondeBo Except there is because everything is supposed to degrade over time, yet we have evolutionists claiming that somehow creatures can invent new genetic information via luck and random chance and improve over time.
@@CityChristina Knowledge and information is only valuable if it is true. Although you make up the zombie masses, the truth is not on your side. After your futility is finally realized, those "silly Christians" will live on in the truth.
There’s no real point, scientifically speaking. If you want to kill someone it doesn’t “scientifically” matter. But you know it’s “wrong” because it harms the species by ending a life, and by having people cast you out of society as a murderer. In prehistoric times that would mean you may not survive on your own. The point is to survive. It just is. Did you take biology in high school?
That lady with kid recording in the beginning cracks me up. Recorded them on her phone watching them thru her phone and then once she was done recording she didn't look at them once with her own eyes. Only thru a screen. Do people actually live in the moment anymore?
When my nephew was 4, he had no idea who Jesus was. He says to me "uncle, I have a message for you.", I said"from who?"... he pointed up and said "Jesus loves you and wants you to stop fighting him.". It knocked me of my feet and threw me back. I quit drugs right there and went back to God. I am now a Good fearing man and try to do everything his way because my way of life was terrible and miserable.
Im supposed to trust the testimony of someone who was so addicted to drugs that the his life was miserable and terrible? Sounds like you traded one quick and easy fix for another lol😂
When I was in college Josh McDowell spoke on the main mall of the campus. The crowd was orderly, asked questions some politely disagreed with him, and all were respectful. Now, 40 years later, the students would all but stone a mall preacher at the same university. Jesus is coming soon.
LOL. And Nye immediately tried to recover by committing the argumentum ad populum fallacy. THIS is why it is critical to recognize logical fallacies and understand how they are used to manipulate people into believing lies.
When I see this video, I can see how God’s “WARNING” to “…not eat of the fruit from the tree…” put doubt into man to question God’s word came to be. Bill is like that ship floundering in a storm. He can’t even stand fast on ‘his’ understanding of what’s going on around him. It just proves that knowledge does not make you wise…
Yup, thus says Matthew 10:14 "And whoever will not receive you nor hear your words, when you depart from that house or city, shake off the dust from your feet." When Jesus went to his home town He even decided He could do no good there and decided to leave since the people had already formed an opinion of Him as a poor carpenter's son. "Now He could do no mighty work there, except that He laid His hands on a few sick people and healed them. And He marveled because of their unbelief. Then He went about the villages in a circuit, teaching." Mark 6:5-6
@@Artandstuff49 yo FR dude if some man made water into wine, and the earth is just as god made it meaning it is the same as it is when the wine was made from water, why can't we make wine from pure water now? its just humans trying to understand something with a more simple made up explanation which is out of laziness
ah yes, because all of history shows us that believers of god are so tolerant to non believers of god. thats why the crusades happened, it was just tolerance. thats why atheists got burned alive at the stake, it was just tolerance.
Nye's point is that it CAN be proven. He is simply proposing an interesting possibility, not an idea he is devoted to. It can be proven with the scientific method, but if the evidence doesn't end up supporting it, that's fine. Compare that to Ken Ham. Ham is uninterested in proving anything because his mind is made up. The only evidence Ken Ham is interested in is that which supports his presupposed conclusion.
@@Rainb0wDElta technically they could say God can be proven too in theory, so theory isn't good enough he needs to do the experiment right in front of them.
@@onbored9627 The point you're missing is that Nye is not asserting that the Mars hypothesis is true. You're correct in that what he said does nothing to prove anything, but he wasn't trying to. His words were, "We have a *method* by which we can prove it."
@@SpeakMakeGive How is it a lie? The scientific method has proven many hypotheses to be accurate. I don't know if the Mars theory will be supported or not, but it can be accepted or dismissed given good scientific practices.
"What makes you think we're not related *to bananas?"* I'm sorry, but that was the last sentence I'd assume from a scientist when explaining existence. Edit: He didn't mean we're family but the sentence just made me die. Related ≠family
@@ilovecheese9791 how in the world can u say with a straight face that a human being with flesh and a brain, was created using the same system as a banana. Similar circumstances produce similar outcomes. It makes no sense for your banana germ/dna/whatever to be remotely close to human.
01:38 I can answer that with a bit more clarity, being a chemistry guy myself. The "information process" that he's talking about is essentially bonds and valence, which is dictated by the number of protons and electrons within a specific element itself. Because each element has it's own mass and 'pull' each of these elements desires completion. Carbon, for example, is a very flexible element as it can maintain a tetrahedral arrangement of bonds or very specific 'strained' bonds. This natural requirement for completion or stability is what led to these elements reacting with one another. The rest turns into a situation of 'how' things can bond and considering the primordial crucible that was the universe as it started, plenty of reactions occurred. Later, more complex elements gained better form and function based on those previous connections and also became more complex. Properties like this can easily be seen when you have something like oil and water. That same oil and water interaction is how the first lipid membranes ultimately became cellular organisms.
No, the "information" that Ken is talking about is encoded in the DNA of every living cell. There had to be a source of information for the very first DNA molecule to form. Science has ZERO explanation for this.
None of this is anywhere near convincing enough to warrant DNA coding itself. I’m a programmer so I understand in order to have a code, you must first have an interpreter to understand the code.
OHHH I love their debate and it was so calm and friendly debate! I hope their would be FRIENDSHIP that will develop between Ken Ham and Bill Nye so Bill Nye could be saved.
Adam and eve are impossible to take seriously, and he doesn't state it as fact, but, it does remain possible that early martian fragments landed on earth with microbes spawned life on earth is what he said. Still wating for proof of a talking snake
@Nick T. amazing, someone as aducated as Bill, would believe that he is related to a banana. That's what happens when God gives someone over to a depraved mind because they refuse to aknowladge their Creator God.
@@Jeremiah17910 all life is related. That includes humans and bananas. The great thing about science is that unlike religion, it doesn't insist that you keep your mind small in order for your amazement to be big
I see all these comments about how Ken Ham answered Bill's questions with questions. My dad was working with Answers in Genesis before the Creation Museum, I volunteered for this ministry a lot in middle school and high school while they were building it so I got to see a lot of the exhibits and material before the general public, trust me, I had questions and doubts too, and that's as a CHRISTIAN! I met Ken Ham and several of the speakers on many occasions and they did the same thing when I asked questions, it's not evading the answer, it's getting you to think about your belief and your evidence, answer the question yourself based on your belief. This is also a tactic I use with my kids lol. Yes, I have an answer, I am most likely right, but I want to see how they come to their conclusions and their facts, sometimes they have a point and it opens the topic for discussion and reasoning. This is all Ken Ham is doing, opening a discussion. Science and creationism need each other to come to facts. As a parent and wife and overall human being, I am flawed, make mistakes, come to wrong conclusions...but so does my husband, so do my kids. This debate isn't about right and wrong, it's about 2 worldviews and 2 beliefs. It's no secret that Bill Nye is an Atheist and Ken Ham is a Christian. OF COURSE they aren't going to agree on how the earth came to be. But if I have learned anything from the years I spent around a creationist point of view and secular point of view is to ask questions and do my own research. Ken Ham teaches worldview and how important that is in what you believe. I wish Bill didn't cut him off when he was explaining it because it would explain to a lot of people on here why we believe what we believe and why Bill believes what he believes. We all look at the world through glasses and it alters our perception on everything. As Bill said himself, science and facts are always changing. He believes in just the changing science, and I believe in God AND the science. You can say you got the corn from the store, but if you don't know the farmer who planted it, how will you really know where that corn came from or how it came to be? Obviously you plant it...but where did the seed come from? You pick it....ok, who picked it? In the analogy, God is the farmer, He has the answers. That's why as Christians, we have a steadfast belief. God gave us the answer thousands of years ago in His Word. Creation began with Him.
When science changes, that is because the evidence has forced the older idea out. When an idea is disproven it is dumped. For good. Disproven; Young Earth. Globes Al flood. Special creation of kinds. Ken misleads when he holds those ideas up a as having merit.
He gets frustrated because his entire life in science and education in undermined by people who don't wanna have to do any real research, and in fact are pedaling misinformation to reaffirm others in their belief systems. There are human structures older than they say the Earth has been around. You can believe that based on faith, but don't expect people who look at real evidence to support your faith.
I love how Bill is trying to be as calm as he can while answering questions truthfully, while Ken just word-salads all over the place, not allowing Bill to answer because it clearly destroys his beliefs.
That's a strawman. Ken is saying that their is an eternal dimension where our souls go when we die. Therefore, the Christian worldview provides an ontology for our actions making them purposeful. Atheism on the other hand cannot logically claim that we have a purpose if our existence is ultimately futile. The initiative of atheism contradicts its logical outcome, creating a paradox.
@kevinmiller6443 Yes but you just restated what I interpreted as the same thing. Let me ask you, if the eternal promise of God's love and invitation to be with him was not there would life be worth living?
What's there to judge? Both sides are a worldview neither of which can be proven scientifically but one side derides the other as unscientific because more people are on "his side".
Do you want to know? Or is this your big "gotcha!" you use on atheists? Because if you want to know, there are papers that study morality and it's *evolution* in group species vs solitary species. And you have moral behaviour in all sorts of species that live in groups, because morality benefits the group (and the better the group, the better the individuals in it). BTW, there are individuals who have no issues (guilt) when they break the moral law. They are called sociopaths. In a god given morality framework, why didn't god give those people the moral law? Because in an evolutionary sense, this is easily explained by defects that always appear...
According to Biblical chronology, the flood would have happened around 4,350 years ago. There are artifacts from the early dynastic period of Egypt that are 5,000 years old.
If you die and nothing comes after, then why live? Because I am human who creates a meaning in my life, and going to leave my meaning to my child, or to my peers. my afterlife is the memory of me on this world. Inspire, Create, and Evolve.
Exactly. Ken had a very selfish way of thinking I would argue. He only cared for himself and the individual in that argument. Many things we do in our life period is for the future generation to experience and to use in their time of life. To experience everything that life can make you experience (ex: love) - which is just wonderful, right? To have that privilege and to GIVE that privilege to our children (next generation) is a great gift (depends I would say) and probably literally one in a life time. Would you agree?
@@patricklindkvist4067 I am a Christian, but I like to critically think about if there was no heaven and hell, honestly I would just keep moving on and leave something for other generations. I agree with you! Humans compassion for other humans is what truly matters, and what keeps us moving forward.
@@lilnavajo6030oh boy, that’s not even close to being true. You don’t have to be 100% correct or wrong. You can have pieces of stuff correct, while some of it being wrong. If you can’t understand something as simple as that, you have no business arguing on this video
@nastynate8856 if albuquerque was a left turn, and you go right, your wrong. If you say 9+9=19, your wrong. There is right or wrong, or your both right, or your both wrong. You can't both be right. Idk how u don't understand that lol
@@sascha... I'm 25 and I read both from evolutionist and creationist. I side with creationist. If you open up your heart you will know there is God. To me, your standard for truth is set at the lowest bar.
@@daviddavenport9350 Yeah and the processes that can be proven using the scientific method in a lab are only true for the present not for the distant past. Therefore any conjecture of processes of the past are just unprovable hypotheses and not provable or unprovable.🤔
@@daviddavenport9350 A circular argument goes, if A is true then B is true if B is true then A is true. How do we A is true? B is true. How do we know B is true? A is true. This is a type of logical fallacy. Neither A nor B prove anything. The existence of Nye doesn't prove his beliefs.
I was blessed to be able to go to the Ark Encounter a few years ago with some of my family. It's a very amazing experience. It is a TON of walking. If you want to look at and read everything you can easily spend the whole day just walking through it and looking at all the information shared. It's also neat that they have models of many animals inside. Also, there is a mini zoo outside of the ark with a few pretty awesome creatures. For those who may have mobility issues, or chronic pain who couldn't handle walking and standing all day, i thought it was So nice that they rent small scooters out.
bill: there is a perfectly logical process that made us (nowdays known as molecular evolution) ken: something go bloo bloo blaza in seven days and we are here
At times Bill looked a little hot under the collar but I also think he adjusted and they got along really well while disagreeing. Quite nice to see. No hatred, just human beings trying to understand each other.
My favorite part of this debate is when can ham says to Bill Nye "you too can be saved" and Bill Nye just stares at him and instead of rejecting him he just says thank you and moves on and that was just a real human moment.
That was awesome!😂
... Canned Ham ? ...🍖
Yeah that was awesome. That’s a seed planted. Praise the Lord. Praying others will water and God will bring the increase.
@@B1rdTheW0rdI can go ahead and tell you coming from a person who holds similar beliefs as nye, he couldn’t care less what religious people say. If you think he gives two craps about prayers you’re sadly mistaken bc he doesn’t care.
Bill Nye is a smug dolt. He's promoted that trendy "gender spectrum" foolishness. He has no credibility in my eyes.
Anyone else notice that Bill seems to cringe anytime God is mentioned?
Because it’s kind of like a cheat. It’s kind of like two kids playing and one of them yells “I have a shield!”. It’s like a trump card with no basis in reality.
He doesn’t really need an argument because he can just answer “because god” as if it answers a question without any evidence.
@@henrylivingstone2971 the cheat is avoiding accountability by just excusing all absent a creator
@@Noseqquiero
Avoiding accountability for what?
@@henrylivingstone2971 Morality. Reality. Purpose.
@@andrewmorse2181
Morality varies based on the person.
Reality is not a word that does not pertain to people of your particular belief system. It’s not reality if you can’t explain or justify any of your claims.
Purpose is subjective.
I appreciate that when talking to the public they each gave eachother a chance to talk without the other interrupting
At least for the most part 😂
Matter and energy cannot be created nor destroyed, therefore no matter nor energy would’ve existed to do the causing. Consequently, whatever did cause the universe to exist, would need to be immaterial and exist beyond time and space! Genesis 1: 1 God creates time space and matter!
Entropy is somewhat opposite of evolution and why did this come into the universe if everything’s getting better. Genesis 2:17 says death came into the universe through the first sin!
First two chapters of the Bible not the 500th chapter or the thousandth chapter; explain what evolutionists have not explained;, The first two laws of thermodynamics!
DNA does not auto encrypt, it did not write itself the code writer is outside of the code. 3300 billion lines of computer code in 1 humans DNA, would fill the Grand Canyon 50 times of Books, let alone plant and animal DNA and it did not write itself! One person‘s DNA could stretch to the sun and back 61 times! Psalm 139:16 “in my members you have written many books“.
John 21:25 “I suppose everything Jesus did the world will not have enough room for the Books, telling of it“
Job 38:35 “were you there when I created the lightnings and they say ‘here we are!”’ This is God talking to Job!
3300 years later, James Maxwell discovers that light rays and electricity are two forms of the same thing!
The Bible Predicted telecommunications
not really. bro kept saying “but what happens when they’re gone” 🤣
I thought that at any second, bill nye was gonna sucker punch him.
This is sarcasm right?
"give me an explanation" he starts to explain "no no no" doesn't let him finish a thought
Which is exactly why I avoid these sorts of conversations. It really seems to me, when anything like this comes up, the participants NEVER listen to each other and consider their ideas AT ALL. Instead, they’re coming up with their rebuttal and just waiting (or not waiting and interrupting) for their turn to speak.
For this reason, when I know I’m going to have a difficult conversation with my family or significant other, I ask them to listen to what I have to say, and to NOT RESPOND for at least 12-24 hours. The idea is to actually give another person’s idea the time of day and the consideration it deserves.
@@DanielBabare I just solve this problem by only debatig people I know are open minded enough to actually think about the others opinion xD
There was obvious tension and disagreement and even contempt for each other’s beliefs, but there were no raised voices, and everyone was allowed to talk.
On an unrelated note I'd pay for a wrestling match between them after that
Bill doesn't have beliefs.
Bill has knowledge based on science
@@lucieudem Exactly, and science is based on evidence.
And Ken Ham has zero evidence.
Just baseless belief.
Bill insulted him tho
“Im glad he learned the fundamentals of architecture” 😭🤣
😭😭😭😭😭😭😭
Ken Ham boasts that his scientist built a building 😂 What more brilliant thing could you say to that?
He's such a good actor that you might think he's a science guy or something 🤔
He said this when i read this😂😂😂😂
“I’ve never seen a tree grow faster than trees grow.” 😂 legendary
But thats circular reasoning because he's saying that trees only grow 1 ring per year and therefore cannot grow more rings per year because that would mean it grows faster than it does, assuming that 1 ring per year is undeniable truth.
@@aeronblitz9347 if we observe trees always grow 1 ring per year at all times, we can *induce* tress grow 1 ring per year.
We make regular inductions all the time, and if you want to be a cynic, all inductions arent good enough, since one case that proves these wrong causes the whole induction to fail.
Personally, im not a cynic. If, for the hundreds of years we've been here, something always acts the same way, there is no reason to believe it would be any different in the past.
Abiogenesis has no proof
@@tonymaurice4157 no Abiogenesis haven't been proven completely, even though organic molecules have shown to start organizing by themselves without a wizard. But evolution has been proven and that alone disproves your Yahweh or Allah or whatever you worship.
@LVB🦅 You're just assuming it will be proven.. It's plagued with massive problems and the chemistry is highly manipulated.. You have no clue what you're talking about, Just another youtube atheist that has wishful thinking for your origin of life disaster!
“I mean there’s a few of us”, seems like lizards had me dying
Props to both men for having a respectful disagreement about what they think and why they think it. Let people make up their own minds.
Billsh is not anywhere near respectful. He can't fathom that anything he vomits could be wrong..
@MEGA1FILM or is it so scary to you that you have spent years being close minded, and hearing someone use actual evidence to prove a point that you resort to petty verbal assault? Show with evidence that Bill is wrong in his claims. ... I'm waiting. Do more research. Read more than one book. Don't be afraid of change. It's gonna be okay. When you finally start thinking for yourself instead of blindly following these theist hacks you'll feel free. You'll discover a whole world of knowledge that has been hidden from you. Try to be open minded. Bill Nye is not the spokes person for science. He is just one person trying to help open eyes to the wonderful world of scientific research and discovery. It is amazing over here, come join us. :)
@Savannah Stuart It’s backed-up by pseudoscience, assumptions and great leaps of faith to believe in what Bill Nye believes.
@@MEGA1FILMneither can theists fathom that what they believe could be wrong.
@@MEGA1FILM Dude Nye is the one that said evidence could sway his opinion. Ham is the one that said he would never change his beliefs no matter what evidence tells him. Who's really the one that can't fathom they could be wrong?
I find this incredibly entertaining and frustrating all at the same time. 😂
It was like seeing a epic nerd level rap battle
I agree
its only frustrating if you have no faith in God
@@USNVA-yn6cphow so?
Ditto dooode! 🤘💖🥁
I've never seen Bill want to hit someone so bad!😂
Ken asked questions like he dropped the mic, “so we’re related to plants?”
Bill: yes? Lol
hahahahahahahaha
I wish he had hit him... hard. That would be a fun lawsuit to watch. Oh, well. :)
Would have been nice to see him try. He would lose. He is a fool.
You need to understand this, God's creating everything was a MIRACLE.
Am I the only getting flashbacks of listening to my parents fight ?
maybe what you heard was your parents DISAGREEING.
in the old days, christians did not disagree. they just killed people for not agreeing with them.
ken ham does not tend to mention those events but they are well documented and went on for well over 1500 years,
beginning in the middle east, then to asia minor, then to europe and eventually to the occupied/colonized americas and
asia where missionaries got cultural footholds.
none of those "spreads" were by peaceful means. they began as military pursuits to increase controlled territory.
Tell more pls
Your parents fight very politely
Ken literally talked about his legacy and leaving something for his kids in one part and then consistently asks Bill why anything matters if you just die and then your done.
I don’t you understand the point he’s getting at
@@jacrich699 Ham believes in god that’s why he wants to pass on legacy but Bill is saying that their is no god, which means we’re just here for no higher purpose. So then what’s the point of anything. What’s the point in even trying to make right in the world if it’s all pointless is what he’s getting at. It’s a rational question to point out his error in rational thinking. The comment makes no sense because they have two completely different views and he’s simply pointing out how illogical that we just go nowhere when we die.
Matter and energy cannot be created nor destroyed, therefore no matter nor energy would’ve existed to do the causing. Consequently, whatever did cause the universe to exist, would need to be immaterial and exist beyond time and space! Genesis 1: 1 God creates time space and matter!
Entropy is somewhat opposite of evolution and why did this come into the universe if everything’s getting better. Genesis 2:17 says death came into the universe through the first sin!
First two chapters of the Bible not the 500th chapter or the thousandth chapter; explain what evolutionists have not explained;, The first two laws of thermodynamics!
DNA does not auto encrypt, it did not write itself the code writer is outside of the code. 3300 billion lines of computer code in 1 humans DNA, would fill the Grand Canyon 50 times of Books, let alone plant and animal DNA and it did not write itself! One person‘s DNA could stretch to the sun and back 61 times! Psalm 139:16 “in my members you have written many books“.
John 21:25 “I suppose everything Jesus did the world will not have enough room for the Books, telling of it“
Job 38:35 “were you there when I created the lightnings and they say ‘here we are!”’ This is God talking to Job!
3300 years later, James Maxwell discovers that light rays and electricity are two forms of the same thing!
The Bible Predicted telecommunications
@Savannah Stuart yes it does, their is no basis for what is moral or immoral, it makes it all relative with no higher truth, which we all know is bs 😂 plus your moral standards come from religion lol and your purpose is self made if there is no god, which means your making purpose literally to give meaning to your meaningless life. But with god everything has meaning.
@@reubenfreer3230 What a sad outlook, to derive all your morals and all your worth exclusively from religion. But only from the correct one... which of course is the one you subscribe to :) And of course only from one particular translation usually... and of course only the one correct denomination. What a great coincidence that people always stumble upon the correct faith, that's usually the one dominant in their community. Funny how that works.
Are we not gonna talk abt how he said "there are a few of us that act like lizards" ?!?!?!
He just admitted to being a lizard person
a lot of christians act like pigs though
that was the first thing i caught, hmm
I mean there are.
@@calebhumphrey8220huh?
It hurts my heart to listen to people with hard hearts and closed minds. Pearls to swine.
It also hurts cos this guy's my childhood :(
Ken ham should've used ray comfort approach..the law to show him how guilty we are ..like Paul said the law is a school master to bring us to christ
It is very good to teach and preach the Bible. However,
I wish someone would give Bill a good serious argument without ever going to the Bible. Real science versus make believe science.
The Bible just makes him put his fingers in his ears and scream LA LA LA LA
@@michaelszczys8316That means (this person) would be appealing to a human authority, therefore dismissing God all together. To say another way such a person would be placing authority over God.
@@darinb.3273 beside the whole point
Science changes? No Sir, science doesn't change at all; our understanding of science changes. Science is knowledge of the truth of our environment
and science PRESUMES that current notions of causation could be ultimately discredited or outright disproven. in which case it would be necessary to further examine other related conclusions as they were subject to revision.
the idea is that science SEEKS this ongoing re-evaluation.
religion is notorious for violently rejecting it.
Science is man’s interpretation of the evidence and it has been wrong many, many times! What Bill accuses Ken as “miracles” to explain things science calls “mutations”. There is no evidence we came from bacteria. Science cannot prove that like Bill says.
Science always changes. The Ptolemaic understanding of the cosmos went for 1,500 years and then changed. It is said science is not a dogma. New information comes to light old 'facts' get revised. It is the very strength of science.
Science literally changes all the time, as does our understanding of it.
Religion is notorious for eagerly supporting it. Pop-history tells you otherwise, but pop-history is factually incorrect.
I've found, that when people tell you they are something specific, (like being open-minded) that they are often not what they claim.
well believing we are descended from Martians is pretty open minded if you ask me especially since science has yet to tell us that
@@satores1918 wait so a sky person just poofed everything into existence is more believable ?
@@satores1918 no one thinks that but okay
@@thatskasher This is where you fail, because you equate the weakness of man, to the attributes of God. God is power, a power we haven't yet discovered, nor may never will, but a power beyond sky people ability. Beyond the ability of absolutely nothing, coming into existence all on its own, with no volition or reason.
@@WilliamCooper-l6f & whats your reasoning for coming to this conclusion? A book ?
"i have evidence" "i can't prove it"
@@m.zacharias8952 so what hypothesis are you talking about? Big bang, evolution, carbon dating? I suggest studying Karl Popper to find the true definition of science. Since when mere opinions are regarded as hard sciences, Bill like many scientist-wannabe atheists are no more than clowns. Conspiring agendas based on opinions and forcing their atheistic beliefs on the most impressionable minds of children in colleges is not science but propaganda, can't you see; societies, communities, and families are being destroyed in the name of spreading genes. They do worship a god, its name is Darwin.
He could’ve referenced evolution, that’s more than enough proof, but that’s his decision
@@ITGOES80808 There is no proof of evolution.
@@ITGOES80808 Evolution is fake. Species adaptation is real. It is way too hard for a species to turn into a new species by random chance even over millions of years.
@@ITGOES80808 Evolution proves what? That animals adapt?
They were both pretty civil.
Uhhhhh no Ken interrupted bill every second
Nye: You start with a belief. I start with evidence.
Ham: Where is your proof that life arose from natural causes?
Nye: We haven’t proven it.
Ham: Then that’s a belief.
Nye: You don’t understand science.
Me: 😂
Bill Nye made a mistake my letting Ken continually steamroll over him every time he would try to make a point. Ken keeps making up some divide in science called observational science and historical science which has been directly refuted on numerous times. Because he wants to continue decieving people with this and we know this. I shouldn't bother even trying to convince him but maybe I can get to some of his followers. Its not just evolution that refutes the bible, its mountains of evidence in every major field of study. Its why despite what ken ham says, droves of people are leaving the faith the more they understand science. Our knowledge of evolution is litterally the foundation for our knowledge of biology. This is why we have vaccines for viruses that used to kill many people each year. Science did that. Not praying to god.
Viruses arent technically alive so they dont technically undergo evolution in the common sense, but the same mechanics apply. Mutations in the DNA of the virus cause changes in the virus. Thats why we need to renew our shots every so often because the virus chsnges enough to where our body doesnt recognise it anymore. Surely anyone looking can accept this right?
The same things happen with bacteria which are alive. The reason antibiotic resistant superbacteria exist is because when people dont take their full prescription of a certain antibiotic, and just stop when they feel better, they leave alive the bacteria that were more resistant to that antibiotic Which lets them proliferate and now you have stronger bacteria that are more resistant to a particular drug. Now you have evidence of evolution by natural selection. Because life changes.
Ive also seen ken ham make up some arbitrary divide between evolution called micro and macro evolution. Evolution is just evolution. Change is just change. The only difference is time span. Many small changes compiled atop generations leads to more differences between the parent and daughter generations. And yet he continues to put some invisible limit on how much change can occur. Dont you see thats ridiculous?
Bill nye like every other scientist starts with a question. Which is then turned into an experiment to answer the question. If this, then this, because this. His belief system is built by evidence from experiments. Whereas Kens belief system is built off "the bible told me so" which every Christian somehow conciders a 2000 year old book written by numerous people that never actually contains any timeless wisdom other that obvious ones like killing is bad. Duh killing is bad. No-one needs god to say that. The fact that god chose a book of words to communicate to people rather than a mass transmission of understanding is prove against itself alone. Written words are flawed being they're so up for interpretation. Just think about how Catholics, jews, Baptists, Mormons and jehovah witnesses all read the same book and yet if you were to put them in a conference room they would argue calling eachother wrong and claiming to have knowledge of the one true god.
Words are limited in their ability to communicate, and an omniscient being could surely think of a better way. Even I can.
If I had a message I wanted to convey to people, like god to the world of sinners, I would use my powers to share my understanding, my feelings, my rationale and my emotions directly to the people so they know my thought process directly. This will allow them to directly understand my entire rationale on any particular subject. Rather than a book that can be so wildly interpreted.
@@alexanderdenney6255you have more faith in your religion, than what I have in the Bible 😂😂😂😂
@alexanderdenney6255 Ken Ham really did steamroll Bill Nye didn’t he? It just shows that atheists and agnostics have a blind faith. I mean Ken Ham is more fit to be the science guy since he actually has a degree in Biology.
@@michaelsears6702 and he actually uses science instead of head cannons
Ken is saying If there’s no proof it’s has to be God. Bill is saying we don’t know, that’s why it’s important to find a way to discover that.
This is a classic strawman. Ken appeals to the evidence of creation within our dimension (DNA, Sociology, "Natural" Laws, etc.) as a foundation for his belief in a creator (Law of Causality). Bill Nye is proudly making a claim that there is no God (atheism), which is not the same as humbly saying "I don't know" (agnosticism).
Bill is saying if there's no proof it can't be God.
The issue with that logic is that it makes no sense. Do you have to prove that a statement makes sense?
Ken is saying that he starts with a belief in the Bible and God can do anything he wants to. Bill is trying to say he starts with the evidence, but in reality he is probably simply starting with his belief in evolution.
Actually I never heard Ken say that there is no proof. If you assume that God exists, the whole universe becomes proof of his existence. I just wonder why Bill hates God enough to want to argue him out of existence. Maybe he views the world through the lens of a bad personal experience. My heart goes out to him, but he needs to think differently.
Some folks will always prefer unintelligent design.
They prefer reality
@@middlegroundlogic
LoL.... Funny.... "Reality".
@@my1vice Yeah....talking snakes and donkeys
@@middlegroundlogic
The reality is you know nothing about what you mock and dismiss.
That’s an oxymoron design is always from intelligence! :)
His “when you die your done” question can be one simple answer: I don’t want future people to endure suffering based on my selfish choices in this life. Period.
Nobody, not one person anywhere on this earth, is now or ever will suffer from climate change, especially if you believe in what Nye is preaching. If you do, you MUST believe that people will evolve to be able to thrive in whatever climate the world throws at them. If the oceans rise, people and animals will adapt and reorganize themselves. Science tells is that has ALWAYS been the case, but it will no longer be the case going forward. It’s a moronic argument.
Life is suffering my man
But why does suffering matter? Who cares if it doesn’t matter in the end? If we have no purpose, then why not let everyone suffer? According to the belief in nothing, it doesn’t matter. We’d all end up in non existence anyway, no matter what.
@@skuekyempathy man, treat people like you treat yourself, plain and simple
@@lordzanthartehallen8963 and empathy came out of a void of nothingness? Out of tiny little particle fluctuations? Empathy is only from God. The Bible says we are made in His likeness. We are like God to a certain point, as in we are capable of having some of the same attributes. For example, empathy. So without God, we have no emotion.
I watched this debate live as an early teenager with my family. I liked reading Creation magazine as a kid, (I was even featured in one of their cartoons once after my mother contacted them telling them that all I would read was their magazines. I believe it was a picture of me -- a generic teenage looking boy, sitting in a beanbag with headphones on, reading creation magazine, and I was saying something like, "Hey mum! Creation Magazine is the most educational thing you've ever invested in!") because it was full of interesting science, albeit with an agenda appended. Having never heard science be presented by anyone other than people affiliated with Answers in Genisis, I was struck with how open-minded and factual Bill Nye was. It is no coincidence that now, years later, I have left the church behind me, and am studying to be a physicist. Thank you Bill Nye, I'm sure I'm not the only one whose mind was changed that day.
So basically you’re regressing in life 🥱
On a other episode of "things that never happened"
Honestly it’s sad that u went from the truth to a lie
Beautiful ❤️ I'm glad you got there!
@@vtgrokz he died 3 days ago
"your scientists and your staff, respectfully, are completely incompetent."
Bill Nye channeling Ricky Bobby...
Bill Nye has made me want to be born again
hahah
Why, was the first time not exciting enough?
Bill Nye is literally the Bob Vila of scientists, meaning he's got as much credibility as Bob Vila was as carpenter. Bob Vila was just tv carpenter and not a real carpenter. In fact he was so bad at hammering a single nail that they had to do multiple takes for him to get it right. In fact the tv show "Home Improvement" staring Tim Allen was a complete parody on Bob Vila from the home improvement show"This Old House".
@@fullnelson3028 Oh I'm *sooo* scared.
You only get born once, just like everybody else on the planet.
When did it get HEATED?!
I like the way nye says, as a scientist, '' we don't know '' -- whereas ham never admits not knowing because '' the bible says ''...
Ken is more humble
@@alistair6914so wrong lol
@@alistair6914 You completely missed my point, you are really stupid !
@@alistair6914 bro did you watch the video💀 he interrupted bill every second he got
@@alistair6914Yikes. That is such a lie. Wheres the humbleness at all.
Congratulations to both gentlemen for being gentle men!
Regarding Bill, I noticed he was kind of pleased with the thought that after death he is not quite done, but he seemed a bit worried a while later when he heard about second death... 😳
The earliest Hebrews thought that when you are dead, you're dead.....my father believed that as well!
@@daviddavenport9350 see 1 Samuel 28 to learn what ancient Hebrews believed and experienced about the dead.
That's right people like Bill want to have life after death but does not want to belive in the creator and giver of life.
Which is exactly the way those ideas are crafted to make you feel as to indoctrinate and control you.
@@natedogg4651 those are not crafted ideas but rather revealed realities.
Ham asks a question, Nye answers.
Nye asks a question, Ham avoids/ignores the question and asks his own question to redirect/misdirect the conversation.
Bill Nye was so patient in his responses and tolerant of Ham constantly interrupting him.
Think about it guys, what reason would someone have in avoiding simple, logical, practical questions? Because that person doesn't have a reasonable answer. Plain and simple.
I understand that you are brainwashed and ignorant, just saying the word "evidence" isn't evidence. The fact is that there is not a single person on earth that can explain how life developed from nonlife.
He’s trying to ask Nye specific questions that lead him back to the Bible. He’s witnessing. Nye’s questions are mostly irrelevant to eternal salvation.
"Trust the science."
"Well, there are lots of scientists that would disagree with you."
"Well, they're incompetent."
Great argument.....
The only scientists that disagree with the theory of evolution are people who base of a book of unverified nonsense they will say the demonstrations of evolution done IN THE LAB are not a change in kind and will then refuse to answer what a kind even is, so in this regard they are incompetent
@@stevebozWhat exactly does that say?
There is no incompetent scientists?
@@bilbothegamerandtraveler2634 It is the assumption that only scientists that support Ken's arguments are the incompetent ones.
And it is, "There ARE no incompetent scientists?"
@@bilbothegamerandtraveler2634 That's right. If you're incompetent, you will get the wrong answer, and be quickly exposed by your fellows. That's how peer-review works.
Watched the entire walk through and never saw Bill get “mad.” On the contrary he was nothing but respectful.
He is very snarky and bitter. This should be easy to see. I would describe his as respectful. He is very condescending whereas Ken is consistently trying to invite him to be open to his perspective. “Betraying your intellect… it’s frustrating.” Says Bill.
@@BobbyChastainyou’re ignorant.
So Bill calling anyone who disagrees with him incompetent is respectful?
@@BobbyChastainKen’s perspective is insane and childish . He dosent care for actual Evidence like bill and is only saying “ well my book says this and I’m crazy enough to believe It” . Anyone can believe what they want but bill as a scientist knows that what Ken is saying is crazy and it’s disgusting how these people put this mythical garbage in kids heads
Did anybody notice in the beginning he said we're all animals and some of us are "lizards"
No, he said mammals. Lizards aren’t mammals.
You might be autistic, he was joking
@@gweilospur5877 Bill said "well of course, there's a few of us that seem like lizards." Directly insulting Ken, and Ken ignores it and continues on in his attempt to have a rational discussion. Start at 0:30
@@GG-fb9yr There is nothing rational in the mind of anybody who believes the universe is 6000 years old.
@GH-fb9yr yeah, it really does show who the mature one of the two.
How can Ken point to the girl and say to Bill 'Is she an animal'🤣🤣🤣
"How can Ken point to the girl and say to Bill 'Is she an animal'"
The mechanism is fairly complex so it is probably something best left to your doctoral thesis in neurology. Or just go with the answer, Yes, she is a mammal.
Bill would say you cant say its a girl
@marsmars9130 Good point. Strange how we live in a time where we supposedly can't know a girl is a girl, but the science on where we came from and how is so settled that we can't possibly believe it required actual intelligence to create everything we see, hear, touch, taste, feel and experience. Hmmm...
I don't but why does Bill believes gender is fluid and GMO don't exist?
@@marsmars9130 LOL and in 1 sentence Ken is now unarguably the most rational person in the debate.
Nye - if we can’t explain something we work at it until we can. Hamm - if I don’t know something, therefore god. Nye is logical. Hamm is hopeful. Nye attacks ideas/hypotheses until it is shaped into something you can’t disprove. Hamm is trying to confirm his ideas with the end result in mind.
Yesss dude the whole time he was trying to steer the argument in his favor interrupting every chance he got
I wish Ken would listen a bit more
Or think
I wish bill had any good points 🫠
I wish Bill would listen more
LISTENING is not the mark of a preacher.
@@lilnavajo6030 he did tho. He doesn't believe I'm the fantasy book
My evidence-based belief is: People who promote a religion often benefit from it financially.
Lol. I grew up in the church and have met many believers in my walk of faith. That’s not true at all. Majority of Christians don’t make any money off of it.
May be true for some but not for many
12:16 Aron Ra just in the back minding his business 😂
It was too I'd say....?
@@RedRebel8l0
Use your own eyes. No country has ever built an all wood ship the size of the Ark. What you can see is a poured concrete foundation, beam on post framing, bolted and articulated steel gussets, etc. The structure was built like a barn/building and decorated to look like a ship.
Not sure what you getting at? This structure was built to the required codes and standards and designed to be a display of Noah’s Ark.
yep and the back side of it, is supported by a modern hotel, including a stairwell made of steel-reinforced concrete.
Naturally the PR images do not show you that, but the sat view on google maps/earth will absolutely show it.
It is a sham.
@@jesse1441
no, the state of kentucky required it to be enforced by materials NOT KNOWN IN 5000 BC, just to be safe enough for people to be inside it.
Otherwise it would have collapsed under its own weight and still could, except Kentucky is not especially known for earthquakes.
Remember, this "ship" supposedly sailed for at least a month in less-than-calm waters and supposedly survived violent storms.
I really doubt that is accurate.
My favourite part was when Ken Ham said "It's Hammin time" and hammed all over the floor
Technically bill nye isn’t a scientist he is an engineer. But he has clearly studied other sciences a lot
He definitely carried most of science class for sure
Look up what a chemical engineer is
@@sixxfinga1864not a scientist. Amongst those who boast the nomen of scientist, we all maintain scholarly work and credentials. He does not publish. Sure, you can say he studied science and makes science work as an engineer, but he does not conduct research or engage in the scientific process beyond the point of theory.
@@Yohanyothan he has a credible understanding of the subject matter
@@sixxfinga1864 which makes him a student or teacher even, but nothing more. Scientists contribute to the knowledge base.
We gotta get these two guys into the Octagon!!! That’s where they can settle this!
💀💀
And this is the “science” we are told to trust…
Yet wars were started because of religion
@@lukeives2801 yet number of people killed by atheism Is far far surpasses the number of people killed in all religion wars at all times combined.
Who's side r u on
Ah yes, the science that uses evidence rather than fairytales is so stupid lol. I don’t like looking at facts, I’d rather believe in stuff that’s impossible to prove. There’s no reason to believe the earth is 6000 years old, but I believe it!!
For over a millennia, people have turned to supernatural phenomena to explain the world around them. People praised the sun, moon, and stars as gods. Protestant Christians believed that other worlds and the sun rotated around Earth, which was a very self-centered view. In a time where religion was heavily present, people came up with a new way to think of the world. A way of questioning things through rigorous testing and proof. This was the scientific method. Galileo, the inventor of one of the first telescopes, was one of the first to challenge these beliefs. He proved that the Earth and other planets were the ones actually rotating around the sun, not the other way around. This man was way ahead of time, so far that the people of his time could not understand. As a result, he was punished; confined to his house until he died. The more we learn about the world through a logical and objective lens, the less we are inclined to blindly follow set traditions. Science in not a tradition or a religion. Its a way of thinking; method/test. Its used to prove things, explore questions, explain phenomena. Religion has failed that test. We have even gone to the moon. There is no existence of a moon god. Another problem is that what we know in science is factual. There are a lot of things we don't know and we aren't afraid to admit it. You can challenge the ideas in science, and if proven right, you will be awarded a Nobel Prize and your name will forever be embedded in history. If you want another reason to prove science's validity, then look around. The cars you drive, the houses you live in, phones, etc. I'm currently in mechanical engineering technologies and we learn about statics, strength of materials, and materials science. These are vital topics in civil engineering as well and especially in building houses/bridges. We study and analyze the forces and stresses that may be on certain structures, which are invisible entities. We don't see forces, we don't see gravity, but we have made a system that works. It has worked time and time again. You living in a safe home is the result of this. Everything around you that has been synthetically produced was the result of science. Even medicine.
I love how they cut out the parts where bill gives the best evidence 💀
@jacobstravail? What are the simple questions?
No life after death but there is life after nothing?
Well said!
"We are such stuff as dreams are made of; and our little lives are rounded by a sleep".......need I state the author's name for you?
Excellent point!
except there wasn't nothing, nobody ever said there was nothing apart from your magic book, there was a quantum state
@@official2mt37 And who put that quantum state there? , If there was something, something or someone made it. If there was nothing, and then something appears, someone made it.
That sweet little girl brought tears to my eyes.
Poor child :(
I know I feel so bad for her
The conversation around the 5-6 min mark made me think of Ecclesiastes.
Bill Nye’s patience is off the scale
The second law of thermodynamics holds that entropy increases; that is, systems over time become more disordered. Therefore, both evolutionary theory and the second law of thermodynamics cannot both be correct.
… just a thought
ONLY in a closed environment.....that wonderful energy generator the Sun makes earth an open environment......please dont ape the incompetent creationist pseudo scientists.
What's science got to do with it. There's more on his side so he is right.🤗
You have to take into account closed systems vs open systems. Plus, don't you worry, disorder is coming. The sun will burn out. The universe will expand infinitely into nothingness. There's no contradiction
@@BrianBadondeBo Except there is because everything is supposed to degrade over time, yet we have evolutionists claiming that somehow creatures can invent new genetic information via luck and random chance and improve over time.
@@lawrencecigary2134 Not really. Bill didnt show a lot science but a lot of faith in his beliefs.
Lol this is an angry yet civil discussion at the same time.
Bill just gets completely indignant and parts of this. He contradicts himself at times. 🤣
He's just not a good debater. There were moments I wished I was there to answer Ken Ham.
Because we are tired of dealing with you silly Christians in a world full of knowledge and information.
@@CityChristina Knowledge and information is only valuable if it is true. Although you make up the zombie masses, the truth is not on your side. After your futility is finally realized, those "silly Christians" will live on in the truth.
@@CityChristina Calm.
@@kevinmiller6443source: some poor scribe when the average IQ is comparable to the current IQ of the dumbest fucker from highschool that you knew
God it must be so frustrating to argue with Ken ham
The way he interrupts, and veers the conversation elsewhere in response to every sentence spoken is exhausting.
God doesn't argue with Mr Ken Ham, nor vice versa. Start there. Rethink your first statement.
@@AceOfSpades-rv8jo Bruh what 🤨?
@@jaysonmeyers6819 God doesn't argue their point, the Trinity is omnipotent,
I was also implying Mr Hamm doesn't argue with God
Why does anything matter ultimately... That's an excellent question ♥️
It is but that's not up to us. We make it matter for ourselves. Science is only concerned with how things work and not making us feel good.
There’s no real point, scientifically speaking. If you want to kill someone it doesn’t “scientifically” matter. But you know it’s “wrong” because it harms the species by ending a life, and by having people cast you out of society as a murderer. In prehistoric times that would mean you may not survive on your own. The point is to survive. It just is. Did you take biology in high school?
@@junodonatus4906We dont have to feel good
That lady with kid recording in the beginning cracks me up. Recorded them on her phone watching them thru her phone and then once she was done recording she didn't look at them once with her own eyes. Only thru a screen. Do people actually live in the moment anymore?
16:49 my favorite part 😂
When my nephew was 4, he had no idea who Jesus was. He says to me "uncle, I have a message for you.", I said"from who?"... he pointed up and said "Jesus loves you and wants you to stop fighting him.".
It knocked me of my feet and threw me back. I quit drugs right there and went back to God. I am now a Good fearing man and try to do everything his way because my way of life was terrible and miserable.
Incredible testimony! ❤
All glory to God!
so when did your nephew become an atheist.
I have a prehistoric skull. The Peking man skull. Im living proof of human evolution.
Im supposed to trust the testimony of someone who was so addicted to drugs that the his life was miserable and terrible? Sounds like you traded one quick and easy fix for another lol😂
19:30 I went to college too 😂 I love that answer
When I was in college Josh McDowell spoke on the main mall of the campus. The crowd was orderly, asked questions some politely disagreed with him, and all were respectful. Now, 40 years later, the students would all but stone a mall preacher at the same university.
Jesus is coming soon.
He got him there 😂
LOL. And Nye immediately tried to recover by committing the argumentum ad populum fallacy. THIS is why it is critical to recognize logical fallacies and understand how they are used to manipulate people into believing lies.
He obviously didn’t pay attention in science lectures🌝
When I see this video, I can see how God’s “WARNING” to “…not eat of the fruit from the tree…” put doubt into man to question God’s word came to be.
Bill is like that ship floundering in a storm. He can’t even stand fast on ‘his’ understanding of what’s going on around him. It just proves that knowledge does not make you wise…
One thing I learned in Christ is not to argue with stubbornness, let God treat with him.
The proper way to say express the last part is woudl be "... let God *deal with him". 👍
Yup, thus says Matthew 10:14
"And whoever will not receive you nor hear your words, when you depart from that house or city, shake off the dust from your feet."
When Jesus went to his home town He even decided He could do no good there and decided to leave since the people had already formed an opinion of Him as a poor carpenter's son.
"Now He could do no mighty work there, except that He laid His hands on a few sick people and healed them. And He marveled because of their unbelief. Then He went about the villages in a circuit, teaching." Mark 6:5-6
Ken ham was the stubborn one… y’all will blame anyone who goes against your confirmation bias 💀
Don't let any contradictory info in 😂
@@Artandstuff49 yo FR dude if some man made water into wine, and the earth is just as god made it meaning it is the same as it is when the wine was made from water, why can't we make wine from pure water now? its just humans trying to understand something with a more simple made up explanation which is out of laziness
I love how the non believers down talk and spew hatred to people and the believers love and respect others..shows God exists more than speaking.
ah yes, because all of history shows us that believers of god are so tolerant to non believers of god. thats why the crusades happened, it was just tolerance. thats why atheists got burned alive at the stake, it was just tolerance.
'i can prove that'
'prove it'
' I can't prove it currently '
Nye's point is that it CAN be proven. He is simply proposing an interesting possibility, not an idea he is devoted to. It can be proven with the scientific method, but if the evidence doesn't end up supporting it, that's fine. Compare that to Ken Ham. Ham is uninterested in proving anything because his mind is made up. The only evidence Ken Ham is interested in is that which supports his presupposed conclusion.
@@Rainb0wDElta technically they could say God can be proven too in theory, so theory isn't good enough he needs to do the experiment right in front of them.
@@onbored9627 The point you're missing is that Nye is not asserting that the Mars hypothesis is true. You're correct in that what he said does nothing to prove anything, but he wasn't trying to. His words were, "We have a *method* by which we can prove it."
@@Rainb0wDElta but he doesn't though, he's lying.
@@SpeakMakeGive How is it a lie? The scientific method has proven many hypotheses to be accurate. I don't know if the Mars theory will be supported or not, but it can be accepted or dismissed given good scientific practices.
"What makes you think we're not related *to bananas?"*
I'm sorry, but that was the last sentence I'd assume from a scientist when explaining existence.
Edit: He didn't mean we're family but the sentence just made me die.
Related ≠family
Ok turns he isn't a scientist, but anyone who actually believes that we are any way related to a flipping BERRY is 🤪
@@nottavegan7311 but we are 🤨 and how isn’t he a scientist
@@ilovecheese9791 how in the world can u say with a straight face that a human being with flesh and a brain, was created using the same system as a banana. Similar circumstances produce similar outcomes. It makes no sense for your banana germ/dna/whatever to be remotely close to human.
@@ilovecheese9791 also bill Nye has no scientific credentials
But we are related to bananas. We share 60 percent of identical DNA to them
It's like both halves of my brain all the time.
Same dude
Thankfully, as I’ve grown older, I’ve been able to discern the truth myself.
Bill Nye the angry guy
Umm he seems perfectly calm to me. Though he seems a little frustrated trying to debate him
01:38
I can answer that with a bit more clarity, being a chemistry guy myself. The "information process" that he's talking about is essentially bonds and valence, which is dictated by the number of protons and electrons within a specific element itself. Because each element has it's own mass and 'pull' each of these elements desires completion. Carbon, for example, is a very flexible element as it can maintain a tetrahedral arrangement of bonds or very specific 'strained' bonds. This natural requirement for completion or stability is what led to these elements reacting with one another.
The rest turns into a situation of 'how' things can bond and considering the primordial crucible that was the universe as it started, plenty of reactions occurred. Later, more complex elements gained better form and function based on those previous connections and also became more complex. Properties like this can easily be seen when you have something like oil and water.
That same oil and water interaction is how the first lipid membranes ultimately became cellular organisms.
No, the "information" that Ken is talking about is encoded in the DNA of every living cell. There had to be a source of information for the very first DNA molecule to form. Science has ZERO explanation for this.
What created the elements?
Why is it that you can do two different carbon tests on same sample and get different ages ?
@@donaldhall2576
The amount of electrons and neutrons can vary, but once the protons change it changes the element.
None of this is anywhere near convincing enough to warrant DNA coding itself. I’m a programmer so I understand in order to have a code, you must first have an interpreter to understand the code.
OHHH I love their debate and it was so calm and friendly debate! I hope their would be FRIENDSHIP that will develop between Ken Ham and Bill Nye so Bill Nye could be saved.
Sadly, I don't expect Bill to set his ego aside to allow that. But I pray I'm wrong.
@@sespiderYour entire religion is an appeal to your ego.
Bill said “ Adam and Eve were hard to believe but he legitimately believes we are from Mars”?
And we’re related to bananas.
Adam and eve are impossible to take seriously, and he doesn't state it as fact, but, it does remain possible that early martian fragments landed on earth with microbes spawned life on earth is what he said. Still wating for proof of a talking snake
@@nickt.7305 IKR!
@Nick T. amazing, someone as aducated as Bill, would believe that he is related to a banana. That's what happens when God gives someone over to a depraved mind because they refuse to aknowladge their Creator God.
@@Jeremiah17910 all life is related. That includes humans and bananas. The great thing about science is that unlike religion, it doesn't insist that you keep your mind small in order for your amazement to be big
Need to see more of Mr ham speaking up for Christian’ ppl and speaking up for the Bible and all what GOD stands for THANK YOU 🙏🏻 MR HAM
I love how the guy on the right keeps asking Bill questions and he keeps interrupting Bill's answers.
This isn't a debate Bill you the GOAT
Nope
@@purelyrandom1230 how so
It’s belief makes knowing vs knowing makes believing.
I see all these comments about how Ken Ham answered Bill's questions with questions. My dad was working with Answers in Genesis before the Creation Museum, I volunteered for this ministry a lot in middle school and high school while they were building it so I got to see a lot of the exhibits and material before the general public, trust me, I had questions and doubts too, and that's as a CHRISTIAN! I met Ken Ham and several of the speakers on many occasions and they did the same thing when I asked questions, it's not evading the answer, it's getting you to think about your belief and your evidence, answer the question yourself based on your belief. This is also a tactic I use with my kids lol. Yes, I have an answer, I am most likely right, but I want to see how they come to their conclusions and their facts, sometimes they have a point and it opens the topic for discussion and reasoning. This is all Ken Ham is doing, opening a discussion. Science and creationism need each other to come to facts. As a parent and wife and overall human being, I am flawed, make mistakes, come to wrong conclusions...but so does my husband, so do my kids. This debate isn't about right and wrong, it's about 2 worldviews and 2 beliefs. It's no secret that Bill Nye is an Atheist and Ken Ham is a Christian. OF COURSE they aren't going to agree on how the earth came to be. But if I have learned anything from the years I spent around a creationist point of view and secular point of view is to ask questions and do my own research. Ken Ham teaches worldview and how important that is in what you believe. I wish Bill didn't cut him off when he was explaining it because it would explain to a lot of people on here why we believe what we believe and why Bill believes what he believes. We all look at the world through glasses and it alters our perception on everything. As Bill said himself, science and facts are always changing. He believes in just the changing science, and I believe in God AND the science. You can say you got the corn from the store, but if you don't know the farmer who planted it, how will you really know where that corn came from or how it came to be? Obviously you plant it...but where did the seed come from? You pick it....ok, who picked it? In the analogy, God is the farmer, He has the answers. That's why as Christians, we have a steadfast belief. God gave us the answer thousands of years ago in His Word. Creation began with Him.
When science changes, that is because the evidence has forced the older idea out. When an idea is disproven it is dumped.
For good.
Disproven;
Young Earth.
Globes Al flood.
Special creation of kinds.
Ken misleads when he holds those ideas up a as having merit.
He gets frustrated because his entire life in science and education in undermined by people who don't wanna have to do any real research, and in fact are pedaling misinformation to reaffirm others in their belief systems. There are human structures older than they say the Earth has been around. You can believe that based on faith, but don't expect people who look at real evidence to support your faith.
yh, very unfortunate to see many ppl in the comments somehow thinking the other side was destroying nye
There are human structures who some believe to be older than they are saying the Earth is. That does not mean they are actually that old.
I love how Bill is trying to be as calm as he can while answering questions truthfully, while Ken just word-salads all over the place, not allowing Bill to answer because it clearly destroys his beliefs.
@@cmwgfo2024Science man with no knowledge on science itself. Just a script
@@cmwgfo2024 I know more science than Bill Nye
@@DinnyDonbas The world awaits your next syllable with great excitement !!!!!!!!
@@fentonpeter1582 yeah gimme a script and I can make a show better than Nye. That’s all he did
@@DinnyDonbasI doubt it.
It seems like Kent is saying that if nothing last forever then why care about it? What a bummer way to approach life.
That's a strawman. Ken is saying that their is an eternal dimension where our souls go when we die. Therefore, the Christian worldview provides an ontology for our actions making them purposeful. Atheism on the other hand cannot logically claim that we have a purpose if our existence is ultimately futile. The initiative of atheism contradicts its logical outcome, creating a paradox.
@kevinmiller6443 Yes but you just restated what I interpreted as the same thing. Let me ask you, if the eternal promise of God's love and invitation to be with him was not there would life be worth living?
I love Bill Nye, and the honesty, and knowledge he exudes.
The difference here is someone with a closed mind, and someone with an open mind. Which is which?
Closed mind? Tell me what you know about science.
@@car823 That would depend on which of the sciences you are referring to? Formal, Natural, or the Humanities?
@@rev941 Natural.
I suggest making sure to look at both sides with sincerity before making a judgement
What's there to judge? Both sides are a worldview neither of which can be proven scientifically but one side derides the other as unscientific because more people are on "his side".
Evolution is a BELIEF system, creation is before you. Creation requires no faith or belief, just acceptance of the evidence in front of your face
Ken should have asked why do we follow the moral law and feel guilty when we break it?
Do you want to know? Or is this your big "gotcha!" you use on atheists? Because if you want to know, there are papers that study morality and it's *evolution* in group species vs solitary species. And you have moral behaviour in all sorts of species that live in groups, because morality benefits the group (and the better the group, the better the individuals in it).
BTW, there are individuals who have no issues (guilt) when they break the moral law. They are called sociopaths. In a god given morality framework, why didn't god give those people the moral law? Because in an evolutionary sense, this is easily explained by defects that always appear...
cuz its human nature
According to Biblical chronology, the flood would have happened around 4,350 years ago. There are artifacts from the early dynastic period of Egypt that are 5,000 years old.
And how are the ages of those objects established? Is it a method with absolutely no potential for variance? I seriously doubt it.
Debating against Ken is literally like talking to a Ham.
If you die and nothing comes after, then why live? Because I am human who creates a meaning in my life, and going to leave my meaning to my child, or to my peers. my afterlife is the memory of me on this world. Inspire, Create, and Evolve.
Exactly. Ken had a very selfish way of thinking I would argue. He only cared for himself and the individual in that argument. Many things we do in our life period is for the future generation to experience and to use in their time of life. To experience everything that life can make you experience (ex: love) - which is just wonderful, right? To have that privilege and to GIVE that privilege to our children (next generation) is a great gift (depends I would say) and probably literally one in a life time. Would you agree?
@@patricklindkvist4067 I am a Christian, but I like to critically think about if there was no heaven and hell, honestly I would just keep moving on and leave something for other generations. I agree with you! Humans compassion for other humans is what truly matters, and what keeps us moving forward.
Bill Nye sends a birthday card to his bananna.
😂
and this hamburger man thinks god exists
Relatively speaking!!🤣🤣
LOL
Banana.
Climate change is real...Hence...we no longer have 4 seasons..and Im PISSED about it.
“…being wrong by less than a percent is not the same as being wrong by 100%” 💯
Tf that even mean
@bayarea3850 I know, right? your either 100% right or 100% wrong lol
@@lilnavajo6030 you live in a world of black and white, eh?
@@lilnavajo6030oh boy, that’s not even close to being true. You don’t have to be 100% correct or wrong. You can have pieces of stuff correct, while some of it being wrong. If you can’t understand something as simple as that, you have no business arguing on this video
@nastynate8856 if albuquerque was a left turn, and you go right, your wrong. If you say 9+9=19, your wrong. There is right or wrong, or your both right, or your both wrong. You can't both be right. Idk how u don't understand that lol
They say heated... Well I see a son of God Almighty through Jesus Christ dedicated to defend, with love, the sweet Gospel that the Lord has provided.
Good to see Aaron Raw was allowed in 😆 and didn't burst into flames .
You should listen to Aron. He debunks all this young earth trash.
No he doesn’t, he would like to think he does but he doesn’t. To me he just confirms God is real
@michaelsears6702 your standard for what is true to you is a very low bar . Age and knowledge could fix that.
@@sascha... I'm 25 and I read both from evolutionist and creationist. I side with creationist. If you open up your heart you will know there is God. To me, your standard for truth is set at the lowest bar.
Bill needs to talk with Cliff Knechtle. That would open his eyes up.
"Here we are." His answer is a completely circular argument and therefore a logical fallacy.
But that is all we know for sure.....we are here at present.....
@@daviddavenport9350 Yeah and the processes that can be proven using the scientific method in a lab are only true for the present not for the distant past. Therefore any conjecture of processes of the past are just unprovable hypotheses and not provable or unprovable.🤔
@@daviddavenport9350 A circular argument goes, if A is true then B is true if B is true then A is true. How do we A is true? B is true. How do we know B is true? A is true.
This is a type of logical fallacy. Neither A nor B prove anything. The existence of Nye doesn't prove his beliefs.
"My beliefs are based on evidence..."
yeah some people believe things that are true and others believe things that are untrue
I’ve watched this more than once and I just noticed that Aaron Ra was there.
I'll bet he was talking about eukaryotes.
I was blessed to be able to go to the Ark Encounter a few years ago with some of my family.
It's a very amazing experience. It is a TON of walking. If you want to look at and read everything you can easily spend the whole day just walking through it and looking at all the information shared.
It's also neat that they have models of many animals inside.
Also, there is a mini zoo outside of the ark with a few pretty awesome creatures.
For those who may have mobility issues, or chronic pain who couldn't handle walking and standing all day, i thought it was So nice that they rent small scooters out.
Ken Ham should have said if we are decendants of martians, then where did martians come from?
Yes! What makes you think we are not related to bananas? Unreal. Claiming to be wise they became fools
We are related to bananas. We have 60 percent of our DNA in common
We are made of 70% water. We're not related to the ocean.
Did you take biology in school? Or did you skip class to smoke weed
It’s a fact, read your science book you ignorant person.
Bill is like: boi if you don't shut yo-
Bill might be frustrated because Ken needs simple answers.
bill:
there is a perfectly logical process that made us
(nowdays known as molecular evolution)
ken:
something go bloo bloo blaza in seven days and we are here
The thumbnail says Nye “gets angry.” That is the most measured docile example of anger I have ever seen.
This is the first respectful debate I've seen between the two sides.
At times Bill looked a little hot under the collar but I also think he adjusted and they got along really well while disagreeing. Quite nice to see. No hatred, just human beings trying to understand each other.
Oh it wasn’t respectful at all, Ken ham interrupted every two seconds
Leave the little girl out of it. Seriously guys.