Bill Nye Tours the Ark Encounter with Ken Ham
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- Опубліковано 12 бер 2017
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For the first time ever, watch the uncut two-hour “walking debate” as Bill Nye “the Science Guy” tours the full-size Ark Encounter with Ken Ham. This is the historic July 8, 2016, meeting; a unique discussion on creation, evolution, climate change, the origin of life on earth, and more!
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This is the most awkward walk and talk in the history of mankind. Truly a walk to remember.
For sure!
Hahahaha
What I don't understand is when Ken ask Bill what does it all mean if when we die there's nothing, Bill continuously states that it's for the people in the future that we hope to pass down information or find a new energy source for them. And when Ken ask Bill when those people are dead, why does it all matters, he still just speaks of passing down information to people the future. It seems to me that if you have two brain cells you can figure out that Ken is speaking of when every and all humans are dead. Yet bill keeps responding with the same answer of people of the future and handing down information to them. I don't know if he's doing this on purpose, or if he really doesn't grasp what Ken is trying to ask him. As a scientist, bill should be really interested in the evidence of the Bible
@@jonmancill6824 I don't feel like the meaning of life and evidence are the same thing. Atheism doesn't provide any meaning to life, but that isn't inherently evidence against it. Science and morality are two separate concepts.
@@jonmancill6824 With respect, I didn't see the "Why does it all matters?" as obfuscation from Nye. He answers the question, EVERY time, as to what every living being is here to do: reproduce. That's all. From amoebas to zebras. Pass along your DNA. Bill's point is that, as one of the species on this little speck of cosmic dust, if we don't get our act together, we, as one of the zillions of beings on this planet, will become extinct, leaving a world conducive to bacteria and cockroaches. As a practicing Christian and a fervent environmentalist, I preach that God created a world for ALL life. We, as humans were given stewardship over His creation. Our task...our mission, is to NOT F...FOWL it up.
This was absolutely excruciating to watch. 10/10.
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@@carolefrench899 Wha-
"You're confusing ice with snow" had me rofl
i didn't catch that, but why is it funny? Snow is made of ice, but ice is not snow, so there could be confusion.
@@worldwithouttime the guys whole "proof" was an example of compacted snow which he was confusing with compacted ice. So his "proof"was flawed and no one in his community knew it or cared to know it
Yeah and then Ken is affirmed by the young lady who confirms his theory in the ice layers and to which she then asks bill how do you get your estimation from the layers and he goes on about “don’t take my word for it, but trust me!”
Snow is 90% air, and when it compacts it traps lots of stuff within it and preserves it, that's how we know for instance the composition of the atmosphere x years ago.
You can always tell when someone has never encountered the supernatural or the miraculous, lol. They have no clue, yet they are so smug. Kinda sad, really.
1:00:00 "Btw, we hired lots of contractors. It's possible Noah also hired contractors".
I remember that verse...
Noah marched all the animals, 2 by 2, onto the ark... except for the contractors. He let them drown in the flood so he wouldn't have to pay them.
key word was "possible" we can't know for sure since it isn't in the Bible. Everything starts from faith--either in man or in God.
Are you saying it is impossible for Noah to have hired people to help him construct the Ark? What a bizarre and pedantic point to get hung up on.
He might've, even if the contractors thought that Noah was just crazy
@@guidadiehl9176 I wanna know which contractors noah hired to make a wooden boat scarily close to the size of the titanic 😂😂
Over the years, I built many houses for people I didn't always agree with and sometimes did not even like. I didn't care what they were about to do with their house, as long as they paid me. I'm sure it was the same back then.
The way this was posted by the museum makes it so much more funny
I really like that they were the ones to post it, its kinda a mess with the constant talking over each other but it shows the spirit of what it was meant to be originally
ham thought he won.
@@radioman970 he did win
@@CMIYGL266 Just like his concrete boat he didn't float either.
@@CMIYGL266 uhm no
I love that bill refuses point blank to call most things crazy
Yeah it's pretty crazy
He says “unsettling” and “deeply disturbing” 💀
Because he’s not on tv with a bunch of people that agree with him
@@POOPGOD999 “extraordinary”
@@strangebrew1231 Exactly!
These two are so entertaining together. It's like watching the family debate at the function😂
😂😂 you can feel the tension the entire time
Modern science destroys your brain and your morals. I would love to explain why if you spare a minute.
“You weren’t there!” Good argument Ken 😂
Modern science destroys your brain and your morals. I would love to explain why if you spare a minute.
I also wasn't there when my parents made me, how do i know i am real 😭
@FieryRed_BE That's an oversimplified argument though. We weren't there all those years ago to interpret the data of the universe back then so we have to make assumptions based on present day observations
straw man
@@slavecrusher6245still can’t prove how the earth is 4.6 billion years old 😂.
Ken: I’ll pray for you Bill.
Bill: I’ll think for you Ken.
Wow so true, I used to have Ham's mindset when I was a believer.
Bill: "I'll think for you, Ken- because of the big bang."
Ken: "So you believe the scientific impossibility that everything came from nothing?" "I'll pray for you, Bill."
Does the evolutionist believe that in millions of years to come will his ancestors be apes??? Poor man in Gods eyes he is a fool
@@isiahromero1353 You would not have been pulled from the faith in Jesus if you had been born again through Him Isiah... Matthew 7:(21-23 in particular) is evident. I don't know you but what you said does say that you were not a believer no?
Praying for you
Notice how any criticism of Ham’s beliefs are a “personal attack” but any criticism of Nye’s are “reasonable skepticism”
You liar! Nye continually inferred "because I'm right and your not as smart as me."
Nyes only answer to everything was "well I'm right , that's all there is to it."
@@thebuff7271 pretty accurate though, nice summary of what happened when Nye conversed with the clown here ha
@@ce1834Like you?
well I mean, he is@@thebuff7271
@@ce1834Nye was the clown here.
I got the impression that Ken Ham was doubting his own arguments multiple times and just told himself, “No, I can’t- that can’t be right.” He would then continue his own argument, but with a little less confidence. But as he spoke, he would regain that confidence, only to have Bill reset his confidence level the next time he spoke.
I’m a former creationist myself. I know how it feels to make these arguments, hear yourself, doubt it, shush those doubts, and press on. You rinse and repeat until you wake up and come to the realization it’s all incorrect. Then, you look back at who you were and barely recognize yourself.
I respectfully hate the argument of what’s the purpose of living if there’s nothing after. If there’s nothing after then this truly is your only chance at experiencing life itself, meaning this is your one chance to do anything at all. You shouldn’t live to die you should be grateful that you’re here and take advantage that you can experience life
The point is that nothing matters. You can do anything without lasting consequence. Morals in a society mean nothing because the society wont exist long anyway. What is the point of living a happy life, or a sad life. What is the point of learning or going to school, or even watching this debate? It's like playing a video game for a hundred hours and then deleting the save file. What was the point of even doing it in the first place. What morals do we have against slavery or murder or causing anyone else pain, they wont ever remember it when they are dead. There are vast impacts in the ideology of nothing after we die.
@@wayvire6126 you see now you’re going into personal reasoning, it’s not up to me to define to you why you should live your life. If you decide to live your life because you find comfort in that there’s something after for you that’s great, however I don’t necessarily find it healthy to live and do things for the soul reason just to die. I could switch the question right back to you. What’s the point of you doing anything here if there’s something waiting for you. I understand following a moral code but why waste time doing anything else because when you go you’re life will be better. Do you see why having this argument is pointless? Again I’m not knocking your beliefs. If believing in a god makes you do the right things for you that’s fantastic. But please don’t downplay or belittle me because I choose not to believe what you do by posing a question that you yourself can’t even answer.
@@k1ngf3lon92 Sorry, I am not trying to belittle you or your way of life. I'm fine with you living your life your way (lawfully of course). It just doesn't make sense to me. To me, your perspective is "living just to die." To live in the moment because tomorrow will never come, the whole "eat, drink and be merry, for tomorrow we die."
The fact that I have eternity ahead of me makes me think more about how i live in the present. I am not living to die, because our bodies will be resurrected again. I am living for the future. Every action has a consequence in my life. Every good deed will benefit others not just until they die. And every bad deed will make it harder for me to achieve lasting happiness. We will all be judged at the end by our actions and intentions. and then we will be sorted accordingly, the good with the good and the bad with the bad. and then life will continue.
Every piece of knowledge I gain now I know will benefit me forever. If life after death didn't exist, I have no vested interest in gaining knowledge. Besides, the teachings of Christ are desirable for any thriving civilization. Regardless of whether you believe in God, the lessons that Jesus taught can only do good for society.
@@wayvire6126 right so we’ll agree to disagree then
In the book of proverbs it talks about this
Also didn’t appreciate Bill getting hanged up on by Ken and all the attendees at the exhibit, he handled it pretty well. These people are demanding answers to every possible question and they detailed and full explanations when no single human person could provide that on the spot for so many topics, nobody can be specialized in every department. Serious props to Bill Nye for keeping his cool.
He actually was a perfect person to do this. Bill knows just enough about everything science to keep afloat here.
so glad to see that bill wasn’t come corporations spokesperson that just ran a science show. what a smart man
Bill doesn't let Ken answer, impatient.
He asked for it by being disrespectful to their beliefs, and calling them disturbing.
@@AG-lz2ggit is disturbing how people can completely disregard extreme amounts of evidence because a 6000 year old book that’s been translated hundreds of times told them otherwise
I respect how Bill actually visited this.
Ken gets nervous when Bill is calmly answering questions and his visitors are listening.
Thank you for your comment. I think it's pretty obvious that Ken, based on his behavior, is very uncomfortable with some of the questions posed to him.
I love how Bill is like "let them decide for themselves" and Ken is like "don't sway peoples belief" HAHA
He’s scared that Bill’s going to ruin his clientele
Not really. Ken was very comfortable and truly believed the Bible.
@MrCrispypata Hey, I understand why you feel that way, and I don't want to insult anyone for their beliefs. Having said that, I think you can believe in the Bible and not buy into the creationist science. Many Christians believe in the Bible and do subscribe to this version of scientific history.
"Every one of us is, in the cosmic perspective, precious. If a human disagrees with you, let him live. In a hundred billion galaxies, you will not find another,"
I respect Mr Nye more for being patience and calm with a group of people who have a different views.
The universe does not care
He wasn't very patient or kind and seemed to me he was being extremely disrespectful.
Why couldn't he just take the tour of the Ark, withholding opinion at least until the end of the tour?
Surprised me to be honest.
The part that was the most frustrating was when he was asking Mr. Nye that, if when we die that's it, it's over for each of us, why does he care what happens? I felt like this was an excellent example of "I don't know how to explain to you that we should care about other people."
@@BuggJohnson000 why should we care?
@@jennececonner1512 That wasn’t the purpose of the tour, it was to have them televise “dunking” on eachother without the moderated forum of the debate.
You can already tell that this debate is going to be completely lost on Ken within the first 8 minutes. Because rather than immediately coming up with a good response, he spins Bill’s point about an Ice Age 4,000 years ago as “attacking our beliefs”
Isn't that what Ken Hamm does to us mainstream science folk? Doesn't he attack our beliefs non stop?
People who follow Christ and people who follow science both do the exact same thing: both put faith in what others have said is true based on what they have seen. There is no difference whatsoever. The wise thing to do would be to TEST both sides, wouldnt it?
Two people witness an elephant turn into a goat:
Witness 1: "I saw an elephant turn into a goat before my very eyes! Proof of evolution!"
Witness 2: "I saw an elephant turn into a goat before my very eyes! Proof of devolution!"
Do you just blindly believe one and not the other?
@@TheJCFan no, I take what Mr Hm calls "Observational science" and apply it to both modern science and Christian based science. The difference is finding more things accurate about modern science then correlations in the bible.
Also, I like how he says " I wasn't there, I don't know how good of a shipwright Noah was, and I can't assume that." Yet he assumes Noah was alive. He assumes Matthew, Mark, Luke, and John actually wrote those books. I think he beat himself more then Bill defeated him in all honesty.
@@TheJCFan Science provides for the ability to test. Religion dose not. Evolution is process that we see through snapshots. The number of people I've met who regurgitate the "people did not evolve from fish" rhetoric is insane, they have no understanding of the fundamentals of how evolution works. Evolution is a process that we observe through snapshots in archeology, geology, and other disciplines, much like looking through a video's individual frames. Each frame (fossil) is a single view, and there is data missing between each frame, but when played together you can see the progression.
@@TheJCFan You're missing some CRUCIAL factors when it comes to science, in order for any observed findings to be accepted, they must be 1. statistically significant (meaning not statistically likely of occurring by random chance) and 2. replicable. It's not a blind following, since peer review and replications reinforce findings.
Ken's biggest argument is "You weren't there to see it" and "Do you agree that you could be wrong?". Our great grandparents could have been the creators of all literature and historical writings including the bible because we weren't there to see it being written. And seeing as how creationist believe that our ways of dating and figuring out the age of something today doesn't work for the past we have no way to prove anything is older than our great grandparents.
Good job you’re finally realizing nobody knows anything for sure
What he is trying to say (at least I think) is that in order to prove something from the past to be true you need clear eye witness or first hand accounts, such as the Bible for example. It is illogical to believe these “discoveries” from modern scientists when their discoveries have the chance to be proven false as Bill himself stated.
@@V8ER88who knows that they are speaking absolute truth? Then what about other religions? What about religion like Buddhism and hinduism which move exactly in line with science unlike bible, they even predict correct age of earth around 4 billion years, how do we know that the apostles were real people? Were you there to see them? Were you there when they were preaching? If today I write a fictional story and gather 500 people to take part with me then will I be god after 1000 years? How do you know that my friends can not write stuff about me? All we got to do is to make a story and live it like visiting places mentioned in story and do somethings can"t those 1000 year old people just gather together when they are doing nothing and write this up? Were you there? I mean jesus is claimed to be a real person, but have you ever thought that people who lived before jesus like alexandar the great was very much more likely a real person than this jesus, this is literally sad to see, it hurts me so bad, that this ken is teaching lies, I have no problem with whatever people believe but he is straight up manipulating young people,spreading false information about climate change and age of earth just to satisfy his ego and preach his world view. It's sad to see this happening
@@Icebearishungry Well the reason I believe Christianity over other religions is for many reasons. To start, Christianity is the most unique of all religions. Other religions state that good works and works righteousness are what get you into heaven while the Bible states that accepting God and living with him will get you into heaven. Furthermore, Christianity is the only religion that offers a personal relationship with God which is in the form of Jesus. Another thing, the events of the Bible are rooted in history. Almost all historians agree that Jesus was a real person and preached the gospel. This all happened during the tyranny of the Romans. The Romans persecuted and murdered people for even being associated with Jesus. They also would punish people for just writing or talking about the gospel. Why would the apostles go through all of the trouble and danger of writing the Bible to just lie? What benefit does that serve them.
@@Icebearishungry So after all I wrote that’s all you got? Could you at least explain?
This is like watching Einstein explain the theory of general relativity to a room full of first graders.
Still a theory? When can we get something that is fact…Science and Religion both have their holes.
@@marcusdaniels8983 the difference is that science has been proved time and time again, religion is 100% theory
@@marcusdaniels8983 gravity is just a theory. germs are just a theory. you aren’t smart you’re just explaining that you have a fundamental lack of understanding of basic concepts in science.
@@marcusdaniels8983 The term “theory” doesn’t mean what you think it means as it relates to science. “A scientific theory is an explanation of an aspect of the natural world and universe that has been repeatedly tested and corroborated in accordance with the scientific method, using accepted protocols of observation, measurement, and evaluation of results.” Scientific theories are based only on facts. I hope this helps!
@@UnoDosThree First yes a scientific theory is based on evidence but the big bang is not a theory it is a hypothesis.
Posting this entirely unedited and retaining it on your channel nearly a decade later... is, to be polite, *brave*. Misguided and foolhardy, but incredibly brave.
As an atheist and a nihilist, I would like to personally thank you for both this and the original debate. It's been a pleasure to show at first to my friends and family and then eventually to their children.
Listen, I started to hate on Ham and then stopped. Trying to find a creationist willing to debate an ACTUAL scientist is rare. So, while I think he’s a nutter, I have to give him props for this. And to post it fairly unedited.
@kristinakingsley2115 Somewhat posted... if you go to the channel, the video is not actually listed. The only way to find it is to know about it amd actually search for it.
So, despite all his claims, he still hides it from the majority of his viewers.
@kristinakingsley2115 Bill Nye is not an "actual scientist." Bill Nye is a supposed mechanical engineer, a "science commentator. " I don't think science commentator = actual scientist😂 honorary degrees don't really count😮
@earlwright9715 when compares to creationists, my neighbors chicken is a scientist.
Not really sure what your point is here, but I really hope it's not some sort of deluded gotcha moment... would be funny if you thought it was though.
What good does destroying the brains of children do by teaching them about science? Modern science is a ploy used to destroy the moral development of children, just like relegion!
8:46 The irony of arguing that it’s impossible to know what has occurred because we weren’t there and then continuing to use the Bible for the foundation of every argument is outstanding.
This is exactly what I was thinking! How can you say "you weren't there, so you don't know" but then say "I wasn't there, but I know" in the same breath
@Job Maryland historic writing is historic writing. But when you start being able to poke holes in it due to scientific evidence in tends to become less reliable.
“Are we animals?” “Yeah we’re mammals, of course there are a few of us that seem like lizards” LOL BILL IS SO FUNNY I CANT
Bill Nye got absolutely dismantled in this video, comment on that fact.
@@nate2748 How exactly did he get decimated?
No, we are actually “humans”, made in the image of our God, & Creator
@@BettyJackson-nrus94 So you’re not an animal then? Despite how the Bible says man are but beasts and only out vanity prevents us from admitting it. (Ecclesiastes 3:19 For that which befalleth the sons of men befalleth beasts; even one thing befalleth them: as the one dieth, so dieth the other; yea, they have all one breath; so that a man hath no preeminence above a beast: for all is vanity.) Or does that not count? The biblical God was made in the image of man not the other way around, hence why he’s so flawed.
@@anthonylonlieano848 ,
If you read the scriptures before that one, God was praising the man who listened to Him, with delight as he was teaching. In your scriptures you pointed out, I see woe to the people who think they are their own god. They are no better than the beast they eat. They will not enter The Kingdom of Heaven!
My favourite part is @48:30 when the girl thinks we don't live to 300 because of pollution, Bill is like nah, she's like where's your evidence? He's like "skeletons". Her reaction is truly priceless.
I didn't see any change in her reaction, same look throughout, she blinked a bit cause it didn't register with her thoughts. And at no point does she ask or "where is your evidence?" She responded to *Bill's* offering of evidence by asking "What evidence?" There is a distinction between the two questions, The first suggests an interest in actually hearing evidence, the second is a reaction to hearing evidence that is contrary to your worldview.
She seemed polite and curious to hear Bill's answers. It's counter-productive (and just mean spirited) to laugh at someone asking genuine questions or posing hypotheticals, even if the answers seem obvious to others.
And then Ken right away tried to get the attention from Bill, so the girl wouldn't hear about evidence. Seems like doesn't like evidence too much.
"Did you want to walk through the ark, or did you just want to come up here and attack our beliefs?" Ken admitting these aren't scientific facts but religious beliefs. 8:00
Just like what bill nay believes is not fact.
@@amelialarison4286 Oh it is fact. Whether or not Bill "believes" it is inconsequential -- it remains true either way. What Ken 'believes' requires something called faith, which is defined as a "belief absent evidence". Gotta pray to your little invisible friend for that one. 😉
@hybridmoments82 which is what bill nay has in holding his beliefs, a whole lot of faith. 😉 good luck getting an answer from bill when you pray to him.
@@amelialarison4286I can assure you he’s not gonna let to bill because that would be a ridiculous thing to do and a waste of time. He knows that he doesn’t need to pray to anyone for decline intervention because that isn’t a thing. You can’t pull religious arguments on an atheist because we don’t believe it anyway
@@zoharphilbrick4583 believe something or not, your beliefs don’t change reality.
“ I’ve never seen a tree grow faster than trees grow “💀💀💀💀
That was so funny xD
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I actually respect you a lot for posting the full uncut video. Even though you got cut down. I'd encourage you to seriously consider the points he made in this interview.
I think it’s funny how Aron RA just happens to be chilling in the ark at 52:41
I am so glad you commented this. I was wondering if anyone else caught that, hahaha.
Good eye!
This mf is an easter egg in all these debates I swear 😭 He showed up in the questions section of the James Tour vs. Dave Farina debate
The best part about this video is hearing Ken Ham say that radiometric dating is an interpretation that could be false while standing in front of a cage with a bunch of Apatausaurus in an ark that Noah "might have built by hiring contractors".
I'm impressed by mister Nye's ability to keep his cool.
Me too considering everything is built on a theory and lies
I do think that he did do well with that. And I think that he does not know how to accurately debate he knows how to talk over people until they listen to him, and he knows how when he disagrees with someone, he stops listening to them and then assumes that they are liars and wrong, because they have a different worldview.
@@imaliveandhere absolutely correct you hit it right on the head hundred percent. Makes me wonder if Bill Nye even believes what he's talking about maybe he does but there are no answers only questions and theories and that bothers them oh, he was very agitated and demeaning in the light of the truth that dr.ham was giving
@@imaliveandhere I wouldn’t say that, he was very open to admiting when he didn’t know things but I don’t think either of them know how to debate I belive bill did better at it then ken though
You're joking right? Who walks into somebody else's place and starts automatically condemning things without having any due respect and having a logical debate and rebuttal?
This guy is worse than Sheldon Cooper on Big bang theory. He has no manners and actually I caught him in a couple of inconsistencies. And it seems every time the other guy had a good point, he changed the subject.
This is INSANE. “Why would any of this matter, if when we die, we’re done?”
Whether you’re dead or not, people will exist after you. What a selfish way to think of things.
As you say, the idea that what we do during life only matters because we're somehow rackign up heaven brownie points or hell demerits is insane. It's like saying, you only care for your kids/husband/wife/parents/brother/sister whatever because it means you get rewarded in heaven for it. Or punished in hell if you don't. If anything, an eternal afterlife would render 80 years or so on earth utterly irrelevant, with less meaning than the first second aftre you're born
Ken said that? Wow,
DUDE honestly. That parte was so annoying. Such a selfish way to think
@@knockylegs We all know his point, it's the classic "without god, what point is there".. Only assholes make that argument... Especially False Christian assholes... See here's the thing about actual faith, if you actually believe in god, then your belief is impossible to threaten. There is no risk, no danger. Only false christians are threatened and use threats of damnation to enforce a belief in god..
If god is all loving you have nothing to worry about, if god is not all loving, then he's not worth worshipping.. Assholes who believe in a non all loving god, are basically just heretics, they use god's name to force their personal wishes on others... all while not actually believing in god... It's why there is no such thing as a christian conservative
Religious people think they will have a second chance while assuming they are chosen.
The worst part of Ham’s argument is that it discredits so many bright scientists out there who’ve spent their entire lives researching in their respective field. It’s a slap in the face to all those academic phds out there.
But what paid for his jacket? His shirt? His glasses? … he can’t stop now… it’s his means to make money.
And the worst part about pictures from space of the earth is that it discredits all those flat earthers who've spent their whole lives in their studies. Just because you've put a lot of effort into it doesn't mean that you're infallible. Ken Ham's stance is that nothing that Bill or any man can provide in the way of evidence can irrefutably prove or disprove the age of the earth. Sure, we believe in the Bible and God, but we're up front about the fact that we're unreasonable about it. Nothing in the natural world can prove an unnatural God. What Bill is claiming is that DNA can sprout from unliving matter, matter can sprout from absolutely nothing, and there can be life without God, while providing no evidence for it.
There are literally MILLIONS of scientists who no longer believe in that and now believe in God.
The Bible talks about people like you. Watch:
2 Timothy 4:3-4
For a time is coming when people will no longer listen to sound and wholesome teaching. They will follow their own desires and will look for teachers who will tell them whatever their itching ears want to hear. They will reject the truth and chase after myths.
Only fools say in their hearts, “There is no God.” They are corrupt, and their actions are evil; not one of them does good!
-From the Bible. Psalm 14:1
@@JG-np2be First, I'll need some evidence about your MILLIONS of scientists who now believe in God for whatever reason. Also I must say that the book of Harry Potter talks about people who live under staircases and are abused by their family. Now let me ask you this, just because Harry Potter was realistically abused in parts of the story by his muggle family, does that mean that wizards exist? Just because a story caters to a certain audience, and just because some parts of it are true, does not make the whole thing true. This would be a textbook example of the fallacy of composition.
I'm only an hour through. this absolutely made my mind go insane with how much Ken wants a peaceful argument but won't let Bill literally finish a sentence. he is constantly interupting, absolutely excruciatingly painful to watch. Like dang, maybe he could answer your question if you let him explain it, and if you were actually open minded to currently understandable theories. This dude literally cannot see things based on evidence, or accept that our understanding of things may change. Ken is truly *the god* of the gaps.
ken used like 2 arguments, and just tried to squeeze every last drop of anger from Bill so that he could look like he was the one who was calm, and just trying to ask a question. Made me sooo mad
I've never seen bill nye so angry
I personally think he was pretty chill for the circumstances.I would have been freaking out
Like he said, talking with creationists is frustrating
Nye gets very frustrated and rude when he is incorrect on things
@@Cisco-1944 He was not incorrect. He’s the only sane person.
@@jimbob4456 He was %100 dodging questions, straw manning and appealing to authority.
Pretty much every one of the fallacies of argument were made, by Nye and disrespectfully on top.
Only a fool argues that way. He should have listened more and spoke less. Then he might have made better points. He's a fairly intelligent fellow... but that doesn't make one correct... nor wise.
Ken: "Hundreds and hundreds and hundreds of species have gone extinct"
Bill: "considerably more than that"
Ken: "thousands probably"
Bill "millions"
Ken: "well i don't know about millions"
Bill: "we do so"
This interaction KILLED ME. Bill Nye is the best!! ❤❤
There is no evidence for that. The Bible has better evidence
@@josiahgoshert5023man wrote book 💀
@@vinytrungnguyen1734 yes that was breathed through by the Holy Spirit
The Bible talks about people like you. Watch:
2 Timothy 4:3-4
For a time is coming when people will no longer listen to sound and wholesome teaching. They will follow their own desires and will look for teachers who will tell them whatever their itching ears want to hear. They will reject the truth and chase after myths.
Only fools say in their hearts, “There is no God.” They are corrupt, and their actions are evil; not one of them does good!
-From the Bible. Psalm 14:1
@@JG-np2be ✨no✨
The bit where Nye is taking selfies with the kids and Ham is just lurking in the background had me dying. Then other people felt bad for him and started giving him pity selfies and handshakes because Nye was getting all the attention
Dude that was almost as embarrassing as the way bill made Ken look stupid the entire time
@@jackwhite8238 Bill made Ken look stupid? I'm pretty sure it's the other way around.
@kaiser9488 I completely agree. All these comments here seem to be more inclined towards Bill when Ken also had amazing evidence and claims. This is the result of common schools where everyone is forced to go to, they always try to go the more secular route unfortunately. Glad to see there is someone out there with same beliefs as me
@@icydragonrider8085 Yep glad to be on the same boat. I've seen videos about this where there's more people with Ken in the comments. I mean Bill is a more popular figure so it makes sense, but Bill's issue (which people don't like ignoring) is that he backs into a corner basically, and when asked "Why does it matter?" he can't really produce a response because nihilism gives no purpose.
@@kaiser9488 the “why does it matter” question is ridiculous to me.
why would you watch a movie if it’s just gonna end? maybe because it’s fun to watch it while it lasts, and the fact that it will end eventually makes it even more worthy of enjoying.
As a Christian I am significantly underwhelmed by Ken Ham’s performance, he was rude and made lazy arguments, I’d admit completely that Nye won this debate.
As an atheist, Ken does more for us than he ever did for Christianity.
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U seem confused. What matters in a debate is the strength and validity of ur arguments not if u appear rude or not. I agree that Kens arguments were lazy but in my opinion they were sufficient in showing the flaws in Bills worldview
@@hunterwashere6242 good thing your opinion, like the claims Ken routinely makes but never provides evidence for, do not win debates.
When you watch the end of their big debate, it's very clear which one of them is open-minded, and which one is a zealot. They were both asked: "What would it take to change your views?"
Bill's answer: "Show me evidence that I'm wrong, and I'll change my mind! :D"
Ken's answer: "Nothing could change my views."
A fool will interpret Bill's answer as a sign of weakness, and Ken's answer as a display of strength. But the wise will be able to plainly see which of these two men actually care about science and the pursuit of knowledge.
Alternatively
Bill is better at manipulation.
If you don't see Bill as a Zealot for his own cause than IDK what will convince you
@timsans1170 you clearly don't even know what the word zealot means. If you did you would know that Ken is, by definition, being a zealot, whereas Bill is not. A zealot is uncompromising, Bill is not uncompromising, he simply requests evidence, as any sane person should in this case; accepting as truth things that are based in, what is at its' core, a story book.
@@raynekarkados7609 I ,personally, would say that there is evidence. Bill just refuses to accept it. Bill is also going around trying to convince children to desert Christianity and study evolution. Which I don’t understand if there is no purpose to life but to experience it.
@@timsans1170 yea his cause to spend his life doing science
@Rayne Karkados show me evidence of evolution. You must show me a monkey turn in to a human instantly and not billions of years.
I love how flabbergasted Bill Nye gets every time he saw a dinosaurs on the ark. The poster in the workshop and then walks upon a pen of dinosaurs on the ark😂
where does he talk about dinosaurs please i need to know
There were dinosaurs on the Ark. There's STILL bendy tissues found in fossils, apparently 65 million years old🤡 scientists have the answer sitting right in front of them, but they want to believe man's beliefs more than GOD
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I’m only 30 minutes in and I can barely take it lol I’m so glad somebody timestampped that so I could see it.
@@matthew6427 oh man, it's so funny. Ham is in his element there. He knows he got his people around him and Nye is giving him and his ideas publicity, and at no cost I assume.
Ham, "prove it to me right here and now!"
It's gonna be fantastic when this country gets a presidential candidate dismissing germ theory or the equivalent, and their stunned interlocutor is trying to engage in reasoned conversation like Nye.
This is hillareous! The looks that Nye gives him whenever he answers is great.
Modern science destroys your brain and your morals. I would love to explain why if you spare a minute.
Ken Ham is certainly living in a cartoon world.
funny that the childrens-book arks are too cartoonish for Ken
Modern science destroys your brain and your morals. I would love to explain why if you spare a minute.
But believing that all life comes from non life or that humans came from monkeys or fish isn’t? You live in a clown world if you believe that
@@cobrakaiser3028 Realism, outways fantasy.
@@colinjones5100 exactly. Jesus is the way the truth and the life. Believing we get everything out of nothing. Is fantasy.
That tree ring line really blew the guy in greens mind 🤣🤣
Its SO FUNNY but scary at the same time😄
Maybe you should do your own research and you will find that Bill Nye is wrong on the facts about the tree rings as he is with every other subject they discussed. He just doesn't know the facts . He thinks Every Authentic Scientist can not believe in a Spiritual Power. He needs to Educate himself by Studying Spiritual Science. 🫠
that facts, that guy is a raging atheist now
I didn't understand that debate topic. It's comparing animated growth to inanimate growth. They are not comparable.
@@wayvire6126bill was using the Bible’s age of how far back it dates the world to say that there are trees older than the Bible itself says the world is. We can determine how old a tree is by it’s rings through out its trunk and how big it is. He basically said the world existed before the Bible says it does and we have evidence to prove so
"You talk a lot." Says the man who won't let Bill get a concise sentence in without arguing and interrupting
In a nutshell:
Bill Nye: There's evidence that x is not true
Ken Ham: You were not there to see it
Right, but he trusts everything in the bible is 100% facts... Written by men that didn't know where the sun goes at night.
The Bible talks about people like you. Watch:
2 Timothy 4:3-4
For a time is coming when people will no longer listen to sound and wholesome teaching. They will follow their own desires and will look for teachers who will tell them whatever their itching ears want to hear. They will reject the truth and chase after myths.
Only fools say in their hearts, “There is no God.” They are corrupt, and their actions are evil; not one of them does good!
-From the Bible. Psalm 14:1
@@JG-np2be My dear friend. I am a believer myself and I value nothing more, denn the true and honest word of God.
I just don’t appreciate the way argue.
1. Don’t judge to quickly and don’t condemn!
2. Arguing on the Internet is all almost never fruitful
@@joelediger1728 well then those scripture weren't meant for you.
@@JG-np2be The Bible says people who don't believe in the Bible are wrong? That's solid.
the guy in the green shirt was definitely having an existential crisis
Also, I think it's hilarious that around the 90-minute mark, the entire debate devolves into why we wear clothes
Because Ken keeps trying the 'scattergun' approach to debate.
When Bill provides an answer that Ken doesn't have the scientific literacy to respond to, he quickly switches to the next topic (in this case - why we wear clothes) in the desperate hope that something will stick and 'gotchya' Bill to then 'win' the debate with his silver bullet gotchya.
Because it explains it in the Bible.
@@spadeku it literally states in the bible that God gave humans clothes
@@spadeku,Go Read The 1st 3 Chapters Of Genesis..Man Sinned,Therefore Was Given Clothes To Cover Our Being Ashamed That We Went Against Gods Words
@@PafMedic We wear clothes to protect our bodies and to stay warm. It is how we evolved. Has nothing to do with some magical fruit that was irresponsibly left in the middle of the garden by some crazy deity.
“ it looks like a modern Amish work shop “
“Well it not an amish workshop”
“That’s what it looks like “
Is so funny 😂 I have no idea how bill stayed so calm through this.
Then ken says well it was built by Amish contractors 😂
Have fun on Judgement Day🤟
I have a back and forth like this in my family. I am just happy bill can do what I don't have the patience for
@Skylar Fun on on Judgement Day. That really would be a miracle.
@@skylar323 have fun waiting for judgement day, which will never come, until you die and cease to exist completely
Ken loves Bill. He just wants to be friends and for Bill to love his awesome little museum.
.. You can tell they are best freinds 😂 ..
That’s such a cute way to put it
they should of ended this with a shot of them holding hands and skipping into the silhouetted sunset
Museum that cost millions of dollars but there are still homeless Americans. How Christian of him.
“You’re confusing ice and snow” 😂😭
In 2023 I'm hoping to reach the heights of Bill Nye's patience
He had none. Ken showed much more. While Nye believes in what man tells him...Ken believes every man to be a liar but God to be true. Why are you here....in this place right now? Ask and search!!! Truly
@@daniellerandall3215 How do you know god is real?
@@daniellerandall3215 Ken had zero patience. It was if Nye was talking to a child. Constantly interrupting him, ignoring his points, making inflammatory statements-I’d kill myself if I had to be subjected to a conversation with that guy. The guy is every debater’s worst nightmare because he’s completely close minded and instead of listening to what the other party has to say and responding accordingly and DIRECTLY, he waits for them to finish so he can launch into something absolutely irrelevant to what was said and ignores other peoples points. That’s your guys’ spokesperson? Shame.
@@daniellerandall3215 The guy would rather listen to the voices in his head than actual evidence we can see and touch and hear. And I’m here right now because I went into the search bar and typed “bill nye debate”, not because of some miracle
@@latteknowsbest6365 so you believe we're all just random chance of molecules in motion that has no higher meaning or purpose in this life except to just die?
Bill has people circling him and trying to argue God. All he was trying to say was that the science in this museum makes no scientific sense. I applaud him for standing against this many people in his face.
It's amazing to me how much young earth creationists just try to argue for the existence of God and act like therefore it follows that young earth creationism is real. It's like they think the claim "there are zebras who dance around in tuxedos while singing a medley of Frank Sinatra songs" is proven if you just show that "zebras exist."
@@Trip_Fontaine What's more fascinating to me is how all of them would say, "I do know, God created it." And they don't realize the irony of it. You don't actually know, you're just believing and repeating what you were told and taking it as fact without any real evidence to prove otherwise. These people always go to the "if you can't give an answer then God is the answer" which is simply a cop-out because they don't have a real answer either. None of us will ever know all the answers, but we will never stop learning. It's religious people like them that refuse to listen to science because they were told not to, that creationism is the only answer. If science can't explain something immediately for them then it's always God, and then they never try to learn afterwards. All it is in reality is indoctrination.
@@breanainn27 All of that is strawman.
regarding their discussion about the point of life if there is nothing after at 30:00, me personally it just makes me appreciate life more. This is all I'm going to get so embrace it and enjoy it. Live in the moment and try to be happy.
I love how Christian try to stump you with the line "Well what does it all matter if nothing happens after you die?" Guess what? People are going to live on after you die, bro. That's literally how you got here. Be good to your friends, be good to the environment. Guide the youth, help the needy, build and create. Help us make a better world for our children, free of unnecessary pain and suffering. Very simple. You don't need a sky daddy to teach you what's obvious.
Very well said
Indeed. well said.
Perfectly said! Thank you!
Why is that obvious?
Silly how it's so obvious and it's thing people know, yet look at what happens when you throw God out. To make your point you are literally borrowing from the theistic view. All those people you mentioned would also have no meaning in your world view ultimately and what you are asking people is simply your opinion . Your worldview is so fragile and empty you have to borrow from theism. Goofy
I personally enjoy Ken Ham continuously using the “but you weren’t there you didn’t see it happen” as a defence HAHAHAH 😂😂 the irony is hilarious
It was funny yes, but the point is he is willing to admit that his worldview is built on faith, however, Bill Nye isn't willing to admit that for his own worldview.
@@prayerjoseph9776 That’s because Nye’s worldview isn’t built on faith. It’s built on evidence.
@@habe1717 Evidence (predictions) that are presented with assumptions based on faith, for example, he assumes the rate of change of these objects in the present, was the same as their rate of change in the distant past. There is absolutely no way to verify this. Infact we have reason to believe that this is not so.
The past is different from the present, the present is different from the future.
We can have records of the past but they can only go so far back.
I saw it happened, nobody can prove me wrong therefore it happened.
@@prayerjoseph9776 Scientists are not making assumptions.
The layers in ice cores are the result of seasonal differences affecting snowfall and how it packs into ice. These differences in the snow/ice are actually visible to your eye. Essentially, you can see when it was summer(or winter) in the ice. Summers are always 1 year apart so this gives you a very simple method of counting years in ice(This works up until a certain point)
Alternatively, you can measure how much of a particular radioactive isotope is left in ice at a particular point. Since radioactive isotopes decay at a fixed rate, you can use math to figure out when these radioactive particles were deposited into the ice by fresh snow.
There are many other methods too and they can all be corroborated by the presence of specific features in the ice. Black ash layers in an ice core from known volcanic eruptions, or the presence of Tritium from nuclear weapons testing, among several other things, are markers with known dates that allow scientists to check the accuracy and effectiveness of their dating methods.
There are no "assumptions based on faith" here. This is real math and data collection at work.
"why would you take a book's word for it when you can discover it for yourself?"
-Bill Nye
This gave me goose bumps. Outstanding! This is how you shape young minds by getting them to discover it instead allowing someone to dictate what they want you to think.
So inspiring!
Are you being sarcastic?
@@CMIYGL266 "Are you being sarcastic?" One of the theist's current "go-to" replies. This is gettin old. Try planning your argument next time then come back with your A game. I know you can do it!
@@radioman970 it was a genuine question. Calm down.
@@CMIYGL266 I think I answered. Don't like my answer? Buzz off.
except no one is saying you can't discover it for yourself, I thought science is about the pursuit of truth, why are scientists afraid of alternative viewpoints?
Its quite scary to see all thode people visiting this museum that are practically glued to ken hams lips whenever he speaks and look dismissive/disgusted whenever bill nye speaks.
This was so fun to listen to while high 😂 When they was talking about clothes it was the best 😂😂
You can see the difference in the level of respect Bill gives to curious people with good questions verses Ken who kept trying to push the same bad points.
the part with the little smiling little girl in the black hat and blue top were cringe worthy. I hope she will one day learn to question everything. For now...she "believes Mr. Ham". :(
You clearly didn't watch the same video I did. Bill kept interrupting Ken and wouldn't give him a chance to talk many times. He only came back to the same points because Bill kept skirting around them. Granted, Ken wasn't a strong debator, but Bill was an absolute jerk!
@@wayvire6126 it doesn't matter that Nye was a jerk. What matters is that who actually knows the facts and who doesn't. One is using scientific fact and the other is using some old book. (and as far as labeling him "jerk" I disagree with the assessment. I think Nye was much more concerned with introducing young people to the concept of thinking for themselves and I could tell that Ham was genuinely concerned about that happening since in his mind children much be indoctrinated to believe what he does, unproven tales. However, BOTH were interrupting each other)
@@sr.squaksalot4305 Closed minded is believing something without questioning it because you were born into the religion of your parents. If you were properly questioning the belief in a Noah's Ark you would see the glaring flaws in it. He has dinosaurs in a wooden cage, not accounting for all the insects (there are 5,000,000 species!!), how animals indigenous to certain regions got back there, what did the tigers eat?, (a biggie here) the entire worlds populous is the result of incest?... (even bigger) there is evidence that disputes all this. But if you want to discuss anything in your book give it a try. But it's not closed minded to question what solid science works against. Good luck!
You only see it that way if you are heavily biased in your faith against god
Ken is definitely the type of guy to dump his sewage in the river because "Why should I care? When i'm dead, i'm dead.".
I thought the other one was the naturalist? In naturalism, nothing is relevant after death because there is no personhood remaining. Even if you love somebody now and wish to plan for their future, you may be dead before them and you'll never know if your plan mattered, and you'll all certainly be dead eventually at which point nothing that happened prior matters to any of you. Thus, "Eat, drink and be merry for tomorrow you may die," is a common theme for non-theists who see no point to stewardship of any kind, forgetting that even the enjoyment won't matter as it is nothing but a memory that will also die. It's all too bad.
How? You understand that he is doing what is called an internal critique of Bill's position. He isn't asserting that he believes what he's saying in that moment, he is assuming the position that Bill holds and asking questions from that presumption. He is proving that Bill has no reason or value to live from his worldview, and yet he is making moral claims about good and bad and what happens to our children or to the earth.
@@ObnyrThe enjoyment matters to me now and my impact on the world will affect humanities trajectory which will affect the amount of experienced joy as well as its suffering. There is also the hope of both biological immortality as well as the thought of transferring our consciousness to a computer which would allow us to speed up our subjective experience of time with a slight energy increase. Meaning so long as we could collect enough entropy at such point we could live for quadrillions of years worth of subjective experience.
@@Obnyr Hedonism in decision-making for yourself doesn't preclude awareness of, generosity toward and a sense of responsibility for the world beyond yourself both corporeally and temporally. Why does enjoying myself while I can have to mean doing so in an inconsiderate and unsustainable way?
@@Obnyr There are those of us who, fully aware that we will die and be gone, find intrinsic value in taking care of our fellow beings and world, and we desire to leave every place better than we found it, even if we will never visit it in the future. I find that to be a much more virtuous reason for behaving well than doing good in the foolish hope that one will walk on streets of gold and live eternally, or worse yet, out of fear of the consequence of hell.
It was Jesus, by the way, that allegedly taught followers to give no thought for tomorrow, make no plans for the future, save no money, etc.
Around the 1/3 he started asking what is the point of living if we are all going to die. There was still an hour and half left.
“the one way to not find it is to not look”. That Nye quote is inspiring
bill: *starts to explain how rocks can be used to discover the age of the earth and says that there is no label on them*
ken: "they don't have labels on them though so how do you know"
like huh i'm so baffled that people actually have such deep beliefs in their religion that they can't acknowledge factual evidence to be true and real.
Ken’s point was that there is no way to tell how much of a specific mineral is in a rock when it is first formed. Many assumptions have to be made before you even do the tests.
People who are religious have trouble telling reality from fiction and its been studied..they cannot think passed bible stories and its sad
Yet you believe you evolved from a rock 🤷♀️
@@MelissaHuntOakleyPhotography a rock is infinitely more tangible and real than a magical made up man in the sky that 'spoke everything into existence' you are limiting your own knowledge of the world because you're afraid of having no purpose in life
@@michaelpearson4373 that's fine, but in science there's this thing called a "margin of error". Even with assumptions and the largest margin of error it's more likely that the research conclusions are correct. That is why there is a concensus among scientists on any given topic in the community
ken started having an existential crisis 30 minutes in
The very fact that this youtube clip exists is due to the process called science. All our medical care is based on scientific understanding.
Their cell phones, television, google, satellite connection is based it. Likewise, evolution theory.
Evolution theory suggests that rocks produced the first life forms. Then those rocks became monkeys then humans. You've gotta have lots of faith for that. I'd rather believe in God.
I would love to visit this!
40:20 I respect Bill Nye so much for saying that he admits that things he say can be wrong. Because too many people are afraid that what they used to believe was true was actually wrong all along.
That's just how science works. There is nothing to be afraid about when mentioning such a thing.
No it's not good to say this is the truth then say I could be wrong no it's the truth or not
@@coltkramer9301 what you just wrote makes no sense ://
@@coltkramer9301 Huh? Have you never been wrong about anything? I don't think there's anything wrong with admitting that you're wrong and that you don't know everything.
@@mikesprigg5495 It might be how science works, but it's not how scientific results work.
Bill: *makes a good point*
Ken: “Are you here to attack my beliefs or walk through this ark?”
Bill: Let's continue on.
Ken: But I'm not done attacking you!
😂
For 2 hours followed by dude saying you can purchase a dvd version of it… Isn’t greed a sin? Hmm… lol
Ham was complaining about being attacked, but Nye was questioned not only by Hamm but by all of the audience who were quite hostile, and never complained about it.
@@Dorkfish0127 Isn't that considered an ad hominem fallacy? You're discounting the truth of the man's words simply because you think he shouldn't have said he was being attacked.
Ken Ham: makes a good point
Bill: says he's skeptical or ignores Ken
Bill has an unwavering and stone cold manner. Kinda cool tbh.
It makes me kinda proud to of been so happy to watch him in school. He’s awesome.
@@nicholegallo1090 Btw did you see Aron Ra at 52:41?
"This is like explaining gravity to a chicken."
Horribly insulting...to chickens.
chickens know to keep their eggs from falling
The fact that bill is SURROUNDED and CROWDED by people with a different believe than him, and he still holds his own. I love this man.
He’s surrounded by people who have nothing better to ask than “do you have a soul” they aren’t going to do anything
Especially when he had to say he hasn't observed stars form people. He want's us to prove we were created but he ADMITTEDLY can't prove the big bang. If he proved any of his claims in this video, show us with a time stamp.
@@mbp7060 22:22 Bill explains how the earth is older than 6000 years old by (in great detail) explaining the process of dating ice. Although he is interrupted a lot, he encourages people to research for themselves this hypothesis.
(edit) Again, at 1:08:20 Bill describes pottassium-argon dating, its method and discoveries that are proven by science which disproves the possibility of Noah's Ark fostering certain species of animals. Bill then says that there is more information about this process at the National History Museum.
You definetely have not been listening to Bill by saying he didnt prove any of this claims, thats all he did the whole time and he admitted when he didnt know because it wasnt known yet beacuse science is limited by the technology of today. I encourage you to research the scientific method and ask yourself if religion would be accepted under it. This method is the basis for all scientific discoveries, without it, we'd still think the Earth is flat.
@@Tweckyy First things first, Ken interrupted Nye *almost* every time Nye tried to go off topic. Notice how Ken allows Nye to speak as long as Nye didn't try to change the topic (which Nye often attempted).
Start there and give me a time stamp that proves me wrong.
@@Tweckyy ...next, what did Nye prove? I saw him getting tongued tied when he had to admit his idea of evolution was based not on absolute proof, and therefore a belief. Just like creationists.
Again, give me a time stamp that proves me wrong. Where did he give details on when the earth was form?
This is why it’s so important to teach science within school especially biology.
You mean like sexes?
@@salvagemonster3612 Explain what you mean by sexes? Because I don't want to misinterpret your comment.
@@euphoria1876 he’s a hog trying to get a gotcha moment by bringing up trans people
too bad these people would never do that since it exploits their beliefs. They don't want child questioning the religion, all bout brain washing and having control
Did you listen to the video? Did anyone in the comment section even listen to the video? Cmon guys use some better thinking skills, and analyze things fairly. Go to 14:00 and you’ll see that both men have different ways in which they interpret evidence based on what they believe. You’ve got to be very foolish to think that scientific evidence concerning the past is ever interpreted in any other way.
Would love to see Ken Ham, Bill Nye, and Graham Hancock debate each other! Because the look at archeology and anthropology seem to show a world wide water catastrophe. I want to see Bill Nye try to dispel that. It would be a great conversation!
_Because the look at archeology and anthropology seem to show a world wide water catastrophe_
There's zero archaelogical evidence for a worldwide flood.
Bill nay is only about speculation, he wouldnt want to hear about actual proof. Haha
Just stumbled upon this and wish to acknowledge how brave Bill Nye was to challenge these people on their home ground. Interesting that Mr. Ham hails from the one of the most secular countries on earth, yet is a relative unknown here.....
Kem Ham is Australian. He was a science teacher there.
it’s quite funny watching ken get flustered whenever bill starts making good points loudly haha
That’s because the mass hypnosis he has on a group of idiots was slipping. People were being subjected to ACTUAL evidence and he got scared
Kind of like how when Ken makes a good point and Bill say "I refuse to believe that ".
@@TGarmon84 yeah because it’s all fake. Tell me why we have countless religions. Only the Old Testament is right? What about everyone else religion? Science is a universal tool that all religions/people can use to find answers. Bibles have no answers because the people who made the Bible are people like you and me. It’s believed that multiple people built the Old Testament/Bible because of the different times while making the Bible with different writers. It all goes back on you can’t believe something that you know is true. The whole Adam and Eve sin stuff now that’s dumb. Your all powerful god decided that one of the two people he created messed up so now creatures eat each other wack. They eat each other because they are hungry. Why can we drink alcohol? Because back in the day we would eat the fruit that fell from trees that sat for a long time. How do you make wine. Just sayin religious is all belief wars get started constantly because of it. Nothing good comes from religion. All it is is a way to try and live a life. Walk a path and try to be like Jesus but it’s just live the best life you can and be the best person you can be. Which the only people that follows those views are the followers. I’m not saying that living that way is bad but I can write a motivational book and you follow they ways I write and the path you’ll live a good life same to you you write the book. There is nothing that has come from religions that are proof in what they say. Energy and life from the universe is possible we see it every day. A soul is your energy your essence. All it is is life force and energy. You see these things all around. We all come from the universe we are made up of cells 13+ billion years old. We are made from things that before the beginning of this universe. We are all earthlings are body’s are built in a way to live on this planet coming from microbes on asteroids or different planets. We didn’t come from some crazy being that decided oh you lived a bad life now you live all eternity in hell. Like let’s say you live to be 100 years old. 100 out of a million is so small that it doesn’t even make a dent. So average human life span is 30-70 years and within that time you believe that the wrongs you’ve made in this such small amount of time should last you an eternity of pain. I’ve never seen Jesus pull up and save us from ours sins you see what’s going on in todays time. The amount of times a savior was needed and did not show. The amount of time people prayed for help and was not heard. Your god is all and mighty and made the earth in 6-7 days and decided to nothing after that? What he move away decided he failed off rip so start up new somewhere else. To me it sounds like your gods a quitter who doesn’t care for his people. People born with disabilities what that just a bad joke from god that that person had to live with that for the rest of their life cuz they live bad in the past or sum. We are all the same we are all alive. Religion separates brings no one together. Only people in that group/religion become closer not the outside. But when let go of all the insanity and realize we are atoms and molecules living together simultaneously is great. You have a whole ecosystem in your body living and thriving. You are your own planet. You give life to more life. If anyone was god it would be everything alive and dead. If everything is formed from the same thing that can only mean we are one we are the universe time is relative to you and your own gravitational pull. All god would be is a loop. Like going out far enough and coming back to the place you start. Life making life countless of other universes outside of the one. If you only believe in one universe because that’s all you can see even though we know it’s expanding and becoming bigger and stretching from a center point means there’s a start. If we started why couldn’t another start. In the whole scale of things in this universe that’s tragically sad we believe in a fairy tale over actual evidence and hypothesis. A book made sooo long ago we might never know the actual authors. I can make a book too shoot in todays time you could have an AI make a Bible then go around speaking this is the truth and once you have followers you have a religion. You can believe the things that are true and revolve around proof or follow an idea someone wrote down that can never be proven until Jesus or god or anyone comes down and shows us proof. If you have to base your whole thing on faith and belief with no evidence supporting your claim is outrageous. Fun fact look at where the Bible is made and you find out they take ideas from the country above and below and put them together. He say she say stuff that’s all I hear. Only people that follow the Bible are people who need a higher power to believe in. It’s like king and queen and civilians are less even though they are the exact same as you and me and want to keep the power. Sorry but religion is a scam. It only works if you believe same as Santa. It’s all fairy tail Mumbo jumbo like anyone can make it up. We see it all the time and people getting used example don’t drink the kool aid. These people cult leader killed his own people. Cult religion is the same thing it’s all belief as a group.
Bill would not need to get loud and aggressive if he actually had a point.
I'm still waiting for Bill nye to make any point. Bill believes aliens created people and DNA, but Ken believes that a creature outside our demention and our science, created people and DNA. I have read Walt Browns book. He actually shows the science, behind the hydroplate theory that is far more scientific that anything Bill nye says. My father was an environmental science and a chemist. He explained to me that man made climate change isn't based on science, but on grant renewal syndrome. That means scientists find what they are payed to find, because if they don't they don't get the next grant. There is the bases for climate change and evolution. Science is repeatable and observable. We have observed many things that disprove evolution and climate change. I have watched Bill Nye the engineer/actor for decades. He is an idiot. When you refuse to look at all sides of an issue, then you become brain washed
We know historically that macro evolution was never based on science, but on racism and eugenics. We know that Darwins book,"On the Origin of Species by Means of Natural Selection, or the Preservation of Favoured Races in the Struggle for Life", was a best seller, because it justified racism and slavery, not because it was scientific. Heckle was called out for faking drawings. They proved in that neanderthals were fully human, they have found blood vessels that are still soft on dinosaurs bones and the dating methods that are based on circular reasoning and theory sometimes will date the same animal millions of years apart. Not to mention all the faked fossils and incomplete fossils and fossils that are several different creatures slapped together to make a whole other creature.
I love how Ken keeps saying there is no labels written on those rocks that were found. It's hillarious. He should have a label on his forehead that says evidence
The label dosent have a number of Years on it😵💫
Totally agree
You can ask him how old he is you can't ask a rock how old it is because rocks don't have mouths.
@@davidandthatotherguy1369 not the point dude 😄
@@joelcarter2535 What was the point?
I feel so sorry for these young adults. Some will never be allowed to think for themselves. Or have any other view other than what they're told. This was 6 years ago now. I really hope that some of them were able to escape, this crazy belief system.
Seriously best comment
Modern science is no less dogmatic than religion. Possibly more so. No one dare even question the dogmas of evolution or global warming, for example, lest they lose their job. Most people simply believe what the mainstream scientific narrative tells them to, absent any real critical analysis.
Also, true Christianity sets you free and fosters critical reasoning. Many Christians are more knowledgeable in the secular sciences than those that attack religion. I would also note throughout history, Christianity has promoted and fostered science and in fact enabled it to prosper.
Lastly, there are countless reasons to believe the Holy Bible as being true and accurate. It's not just because you're told to believe it. It's arrogance to think you know more than believers. Or that you somehow have knowledge of the origin of existence that you can rule out the theory of an intelligent designer. You prove that modern science is itself a religion.
I remember Ken Ham being our hero as a kid in that cult. Some of us have escaped.
Same. The public school system spouting billions of years as fact and not the belief that it is. There is nothing substantial to teach it as fact and the kids learning it aren't being taught to think for themselves. I feel sorry for those young adults, too.
What an incredibly patronising comment - indicating, ironically, a blinkered and prejudiced worldview.
I love how Bill just ignores the majority of Ken's inane interruptions.
Gotta give AiG props for keeping this up despite Ken getting destroyed for the entirety and the sentiment of the comment section
I was thinking the same thing. Started the video with who seemed to be Ken and then he proceeds to get destroyed by Bill, props to the channel for keeping it up.
Bill does no such thing. He just keeps dodging questions and interrupts during key points. It's pretty much a debate over axioms. Bills' only proof is "here we are." That's not evidence lol
I don’t like Bill nye at all but you’re right. The kids in the crowd are more curious than ken is
It's always the wrong people who are mighty loud. I can't believe Bill Nye had the patience for this
Love the fact that aron ra was there checking out the spectacle that is the arc encounter.
I can't believe I watched the whole thing...well I hope Bill reached at least one open mind. One general observation I have is that Ken mentioned an afterlife and life purpose numerous times in the discussion. I suspect it is fear of dying that is a major reason so many otherwise intelligent people can be duped into their absurd worldviews. I would add to Bill's response that it is not only perpetuating and advancing our species that drives our purpose in life, it is also fully appreciating the limited life we are given, that the search for knowledge and truth enriches us through the awe and joy of discovery. That is equally important IMHO.
'You're confusing ice with snow". Pretty much sums it up.
I applaud AIG for posting this unedited, with the comments on. Though I think the creationist argument is beyond losing this argument, I’m glad to see no cherrypicking or malicious editing. Also shout out the the girl with a million questions for Bill. Keep questioning.
How is the creationist argument “beyond losing”?
@@quinntenstevenson4469 being scientifically falsified on almost, if not every claim.
I do have to agree with you on that. I’m impressed they actually posted all of this.
@@NeutralMjolkHotel like wat name one claim
@@johnnysalas1192 The age of the earth
In 2000 years or so, after a couple of world wars and apocalypses, someone finds an old book. Another 2000 year pass and they still wait on Frodo...
I wish Nye had answered Ham’s question “Why does it matter if when we die we just disappear and nothing happens?” a little differently… whether we can mind meaning in life is irrelevant to which beliefs about the natural world we hold. If your mother or father dies, your discomfort isn’t not a justifiable basis on which you might believe “well, they didn’t actually die… they’re still here with me”
There is an an absolute mass of evidence out there that we have a soul, and therefore a part of us moves on after death. Most of us have experienced some kind of supernatural moment in our lives. Definitely more to life than meets the eye. 😊✌🏻
How did Bill Nye not have an aneurysm? 😮
😂😂😂😂😂😂
bc ken was making valid points , bill literally said “i’m not going to give you an answer about tree rings ?” if he can’t even confidently respond about tree rings can’t u see his foundation of knowledge is atleast shaky ? all
i’m saying is based on the conversation i’d think someone would consider more possibilities
@@JD-ij8bz true, but i think while considering possibilities of others gods we should also keep open minds abt science as well
He keeps saying Bill wasn't there to witness things form in the past so he can't know for sure but is standing in a museum about events he believes in but wasn't there to witness. 😂😂
Yeah he also talks about historical science as well to explain what he believes in.
"bUt tHe bIbLe sAyS iTs tRuE" - Ken Ham
@@gaven1181 Old, sure. Most accurate? What makes you say that?
@@rickerlife9113 I believe a lack of critical thinking and wilful ignorance is where he derives his claims
@@gaven1181 think again cookie, do you really think that the story of noahs ark is unique and wasn't inspired by older stories? I'll give you a hint: it comes from Mesopotamia.
Both Nye and Ham are very funny to watch but you can tell they're the real deal. Like when they started talking about decay rates 😂
I still think it’d be more interesting to see these two guys box in a ring. They’re the same age, weight, height, and reach. Using their hands… That’ll really settle the debate.
bill nye is the real deal, thats not a clip on bow tie
bill nye isnt a scientist lol
@@Omachronic8326
i only see one real deal 😬
@@igotwect3174Yep, thats Jimmy in the background!!
The entire time I've been watching the Boom Operators... thats some real hard job doing that for 2 hrs.
I liked the girl asking him the questions she seemed genuinely really invested in what Bill was saying
No, she is trying to trip him up. He cant go through the entire science of why these things work the way they do because you need to get heavily into very difficult subjects like quantum mechanics. We can infer things based on research done by multiple people that make these things verifiably true. A good example is there is enough verifiable evidence and research done by scientist with peer reviewed research to verifiably prove the earth it round. I do not need to do my own experiment to prove it. I can reliably trust the past research that states it as so. You can do the same with many of these are more advanced concepts.
And she still failed.
yes and her reaction to Nye s answer why people did not live for centuries.You can see that this answer made sense to her and her expression is priceless.
My favorite part about that bit is how you can tell Ken is REALLY, REALLY uncomfortable with that exchange. He knows Bill is slowly breaking through her shell of ignorance. He can see the cracks, and he desperately wants to seal those cracks, so he pushes him away from the crowd in order to minimize the damage.
@@LauncherSpiderMk7 picture once again worth a thousand words..christianity vs.modern youth
Even when the young people are asking questions in order to debunk bills statements hes still finds a way to take time out to teach them something. He'll forever be loved by me I swear....❤
Indeed.
he cant be forever loved by you because when youre dead youre dead, so your love for him is blink and then its over for your love, yourself and him.
He's just there to make sure the wool stays pulled over your eyes and to keep pretending that the establishment is right when they don't know what they're talking about. Christians have the real science, that's what's crazy about all this. Go watch a Dr Tour lecture and get some insight into how little the macro evolutionists know and can prove. Next to nothing.
Have fun on Judgement Day 🤟
@@skylar323 but what about googling...
William Lane Craig & Joshua Swamidass • Was there a historical Adam & Eve?
how do you fit that in to your judgement day?
This should have been a pay per view or at least a Netflix original
I'm indifferent to religion, but utterly respect the debate. Appreciate both parties, enjoyed the content!
Would you respect a guy in a debate if he said Santa Claus is invisible and lives in the sky and then he went in to build a 100M giant sleigh to show kids that’s where all the toys come from ?
Something tells me you're not the sharpest tool in the shed, amirite?
Same brother.
"I'm not gonna let you influence these young people's way of thinking" *proceeds to influence young people's way of thinking*
Oh, yeah, it's weird how he is so hypocritical and cherrypicky about his data. Like, he's going on at one point about how, basically, if you didn't see it, it didn't happen, and then proceeds to say everything in the Bible happened, even though he didn't see it.
@@annicooley6089 very true
@@annicooley6089 That's cause everything that's in the Bible did happen, Bill is just making crap up.
@@annicooley6089 Ham was leading to the point that the Bible is a document recorded from those who did see the beginning of the Heavens and the Earth… they were there at the beginning.
@kymdickman8910 but why does that override the records that say the pyramids were built more than 6000 years ago
A tree ring signifies a period of growth. The distance between the rings signifies the period of that growth. Growth is often seasonally associated and is annual.
Generally tree rings are formed annually
If a tree forms multiple rings in a year, the distance between the rings will be different than the usual rings formed annually
One of my favorite writers once said, " No amount of evidence will ever convince an idiot." Mark Twain.
Bro walked in and disproved his whole exhibit
2:43 Bill saw the flash and was the only one not suprised by the thunder lol
He’s evolved!
no hr difny
Bill has so much patients here. This further proves these people really do live in their own fantasy land bubble.
Woah! Is that AronRa at 52:40?
Nice catch. A wild AronRa
Mr. Nye has more patience than me.... You notice how he keeps telling people, to go find their own evidence and prove him wrong....
Which makes his world view vastly superior and promotes a growth mindset.