Jim Cornette on The 2022 Wrestling Observer Newsletter Awards

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  • Опубліковано 26 лют 2023
  • From Episode 471 of the Jim Cornette Experience
    Artwork by Travis Heckel!
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  • @keni95851
    @keni95851 Рік тому +245

    Who else was surprised that Jericho didnt get rookie of the year?

    • @keni95851
      @keni95851 Рік тому +12

      @Dodge Morningstar that's a lot of weight

    • @williammitchell4417
      @williammitchell4417 Рік тому +13

      Chris has been in wrestling even before I divorced my first ex-wife

    • @billwebber400
      @billwebber400 Рік тому +7

      I would love to drink a beer or two with all of you LMAO repeatedly👍😁😅

    • @WillowGlen-hh7vp
      @WillowGlen-hh7vp Рік тому +6

      Or the Bryan Daneilsen award

    • @Chuck_EL
      @Chuck_EL Рік тому +2

      Impact is better than Aew by far ain't no way it's that lower than Aew

  • @ModestMcMichaels
    @ModestMcMichaels Рік тому +263

    The reveal that Jericho made 8th on the most improved list and Brian’s demented laugh in response to reading that has got to be the best I’ve laughed in a long while

    • @Dwayne0630
      @Dwayne0630 Рік тому +16

      It’s more of a testament to how dreadfully awful Jericho was the previous year…
      A veteran shouldn’t even be mentioned in this category…

    • @heelgill
      @heelgill Рік тому +12

      34:38

    • @Joel_Young170
      @Joel_Young170 Рік тому +10

      Did not realise that Jericho who has been wrestling for over 30 years has got so bad that he has only improved to be ranked 8th out of 10 for the year of 2022🤣🤣🤣

    • @above.average.gaming.natio3026
      @above.average.gaming.natio3026 Рік тому +1

      the people who voted for this shit have been eating a lot of Meatloaf and green peas

    • @billwebber400
      @billwebber400 Рік тому +3

      In all seriousness, you have to think back and remember Chris Jericho is a wizard🤑😈😱

  • @adanmizura
    @adanmizura Рік тому +357

    Buckle up! This is going to be good! Need the Corny Awards asap 🔥

    • @matthewirick79
      @matthewirick79 Рік тому +5

      I second this.

    • @THectOrtiz
      @THectOrtiz Рік тому +3

      Third 👍

    • @baconbone5895
      @baconbone5895 Рік тому +5

      I fourth this.

    • @davidkelling159
      @davidkelling159 Рік тому +5

      5th, it's officially a votebang

    • @XombieLejon66
      @XombieLejon66 Рік тому +14

      What would be the categories?
      - *The "Thank you, fuck you, bye "* : wrestler you want most to be run out of the business

  • @Darekpetrelli
    @Darekpetrelli Рік тому +444

    The thing that Meltzer and a lot of people doesnt understand is that even when Roman isn't on screen, he's there. The fear of contradicting him, the desire to follow his orders etc etc. The bloodline matches were all about not wanting to piss him off. It wasn't even about winning or losing anymore. This is a plus, not a minus. if Moxley misses an episode does it have the same effect? Heck, even when it's there it doesn't have the same effect!

    • @KyleS3m3noff
      @KyleS3m3noff Рік тому +44

      Someone gets it!

    • @ChaseNada
      @ChaseNada Рік тому +46

      I like to look it as this : Both men have the creative freedom that they needed to break out.
      The big difference is one put the work in (acting lessons, changing presentation etc) to actually stand out and show the industry how good he is. Where as the other just went back to his old wrestling style (death matches, bleeding nearly every match etc) and has sat in cruise control ever since.

    • @nohbuddy1
      @nohbuddy1 Рік тому +1

      Dave had him as top draw

    • @getschwifty9531
      @getschwifty9531 Рік тому +33

      I know Moxley will be at home blading his forehead over a glass of wine as he promos to his wife about having to drink blood.

    • @RandalfElVikingo
      @RandalfElVikingo Рік тому +17

      Ambrose being in a show or not has no consequence on the overall world of wrestling. A hobo in the streets offers more than him.

  • @asurlybarber3620
    @asurlybarber3620 Рік тому +321

    Corny & Uncle Dave: the most entertaining case of friends turned enemies since Obi-Wan & Anakin.

    • @EBAGTheGreat
      @EBAGTheGreat Рік тому +11

      Damnit, you beat me to it lol

    • @z2ei
      @z2ei Рік тому +24

      Dave is the living example of the "someone is wrong on the internet" comic. You know you're too into Twitter when you search out people to argue with who aren't even mentioning you.

    • @hamankarn91
      @hamankarn91 Рік тому +14

      We need the cult of cornette awards

    • @john_blues
      @john_blues Рік тому +19

      Corny's got the high ground.

    • @gamerythings123
      @gamerythings123 Рік тому +13

      Jim has the high ground

  • @nabillahlabat5570
    @nabillahlabat5570 Рік тому +106

    Holy shit, him trying to justify moxley winning over reigns is next level nut hugging!

    • @elvispressley2365
      @elvispressley2365 Рік тому +13

      I really dislike them both but will admit that RR has been really good as a heel in his current role.

    • @Kr4ShSkeL
      @Kr4ShSkeL Рік тому +4

      it's just normal reigns barely wretled 10 tv matches in 2022, Mox had like 50

    • @scottcoval7547
      @scottcoval7547 Рік тому

      ​@@Kr4ShSkeL 50 shitty wrestling matches in one year is next level

    • @robertm.3520
      @robertm.3520 Рік тому

      Plumber Moxley and his garbage matches winning wrestler of the year is a joke. I wonder when Tony Kahn is gonna call out Dave Meltzer for his clear anti- WWE bias since hes so worried about journalistic integrity.

    • @yusufgazi7
      @yusufgazi7 Рік тому +6

      Sierra Hotel India Echo Lima Delta

  • @revelstatus2346
    @revelstatus2346 Рік тому +420

    We need the Corny Awards

    • @malikniang6760
      @malikniang6760 Рік тому +11

      AGREED!

    • @jeffreymarksworld534
      @jeffreymarksworld534 Рік тому +15

      I wonder who would've won best kidnapping this year

    • @therealmaskedheel
      @therealmaskedheel Рік тому

      @@jeffreymarksworld534 Anyone who kidnapped the 200-500k people that are forced to watch Rampage each week.

    • @jerrymcreynolds-ih2tw
      @jerrymcreynolds-ih2tw Рік тому +1

      He'll yeah

    • @frod79
      @frod79 Рік тому +14

      ​@@jeffreymarksworld534 swerve Strickland/Billy Gunn for sure 😂

  • @jesterr7133
    @jesterr7133 Рік тому +55

    Jim laughing hysterically after Brian named Orange Cassidy on the most charismatic list really cracked me up.

  • @hiphopotamus69
    @hiphopotamus69 Рік тому +41

    Bryan Danielson winning the Bryan Danielson award is objectively hilarious

    • @jwconglomerate332
      @jwconglomerate332 10 місяців тому +4

      If he were alive, Bruiser Brody probably would've been a shoe-in for the Bruiser Brody award.

    • @demonsuckafucka6828
      @demonsuckafucka6828 10 місяців тому

      Why does Danielson have an award after his name lol? Kinda goofy

    • @syko2695
      @syko2695 10 місяців тому

      ​@@demonsuckafucka6828It was supposed to be retrospective because Bryan was forceably retired and assumed to never wrestle again

    • @ousmansano21
      @ousmansano21 9 місяців тому

      @@demonsuckafucka6828it was given for the best technical wrestler and renamed after him after he retired in 2016 and he won it the most

    • @RagingCookie127
      @RagingCookie127 7 місяців тому +2

      ​@@demonsuckafucka6828The award is basically for best technical/in-ring wrestler and it was put in place after Danielson announced his retirement in WWE, they thought his career was over when they made the award, then he came back and didn't win his own award for multiple years

  • @robintst
    @robintst Рік тому +71

    "Welcome to the Observer Awards where everything's made up and the points don't matter."

    • @gamblinggod960
      @gamblinggod960 Рік тому +4

      Ha ha good one.

    • @rexsexson5349
      @rexsexson5349 Рік тому +5

      Now that's funny.

    • @Chuck_EL
      @Chuck_EL Рік тому

      ​@@rexsexson5349 my favorite was when Russo said "It's a work it's not real you're a fuckin tool ass mark if you call it real wrestling" 😂

    • @todderickson2435
      @todderickson2435 4 місяці тому +2

      You win. 😂

  • @dngn4774
    @dngn4774 Рік тому +47

    A big problem with how Meltzer framed his justification for Moxley is that with the way WWE is structured, even if someone in WWE was wrestler of the year by every other conceivable metric, WON would have to snub them because their company makes too much money with or without any individual.
    When has that ever been criteria before now? He's just admitting that he's never going to advocate for a WWE guy to win it regardless of how well they do.

    • @maxxdahl6062
      @maxxdahl6062 Рік тому +5

      Unless they ever sign the bucks or Omega.

    • @shortymccutlery8919
      @shortymccutlery8919 Рік тому +8

      Meltzer is just a professional AEW contrarian fanboy trying to convince himself and everyone AEW isn't a bunch of jobbers.

  • @Saddler1944
    @Saddler1944 Рік тому +26

    John Moxely the guy who cant sell enough tickets to fill 30% of an arena. Seems to be the greatest wrestler of all time based on the Observer readers.

    • @Chuck_EL
      @Chuck_EL Рік тому +2

      He can't sell getting barbed wire in his body, table bumps, mat bumps or any of his opponents finishers either

  • @warrensloan3467
    @warrensloan3467 Рік тому +126

    It’s bizarre when you see how seriously Dave takes his Hall of Fame and his awards, because a lot of the award winners don’t hold up to any reasonable standard aside from the herd mentality he has created, and he finally had to comment on it but is unwilling or unable to see that he’s the reason these people get it wrong.

    • @Station_AI
      @Station_AI Рік тому +3

      It's the opinions of people that read the newsletter, how can they "get it wrong"? It's subjective

    • @warrensloan3467
      @warrensloan3467 Рік тому +15

      @@Station_AI the guy who writes the newsletter said they got it wrong. And when the company that made the most money, the people running it don’t get “Best Promoter,” you can’t write it off as personal opinion.

    • @ronniejdio9411
      @ronniejdio9411 Рік тому +3

      Dave's way he counts votes changes not from year to year bit from wrestler to wrestler in the same year

    • @Station_AI
      @Station_AI Рік тому +2

      @@warrensloan3467 WWEs gonna make the most money irregardless of the quality of the booking

    • @warrensloan3467
      @warrensloan3467 Рік тому +12

      @@Station_AI That’s their goal. A promoter who books great shows at a loss isn’t going to be a promoter for long. But the person who won this year is down in both ratings and tickets sold whereas WWE is going up, and most people consider the product better than previous years. But Tony Khan wins, because they would vote for him regardless. These voters voted WWE worst promotion over NWA and CYN, it’s absurd.

  • @todd1928
    @todd1928 Рік тому +49

    The internet: Meltzer just announced his awards
    Also the internet: Oh good, when's Cornette's next podcast coming out?

  • @josephram1843
    @josephram1843 Рік тому +78

    Brian and Jim are so entertaining. They are like the modern day shoot version of Monsoon and Heenan.

  • @MatthewSaliba
    @MatthewSaliba Рік тому +95

    I love Corny's "What!?!" reaction every time Brian brings up a Japanese singles wrestler or tag team.

  • @megsley
    @megsley Рік тому +63

    so when is Dave gonna create a "wrestling journalist of the year" award? 😂

    • @djpaul8705
      @djpaul8705 Рік тому +7

      Haha. Dave has retired the award. He has too many plaques on the mantle of his beach house. In 43 years Mike Tenay had two honors while Dave swept the other 41

    • @zanon__
      @zanon__ Рік тому +3

      He'd have all the plaques buried under that bog of an office he works in.

    • @MyNameIsNotBrad
      @MyNameIsNotBrad Рік тому

      SRS would win it.

  • @Sparkledash1
    @Sparkledash1 Рік тому +24

    It's the first annual montgomery burns award for
    outstanding achievements in
    the field of
    EXCELLEEEEEEENCE

    • @bigc181
      @bigc181 Рік тому

      Awarded to....Julia!

  • @constablekennedy7705
    @constablekennedy7705 Рік тому +164

    Dave Meltzer gets 5 ⭐️ for being a MARK for himself ….

  • @jaydenbolden7184
    @jaydenbolden7184 Рік тому +54

    Shoutout Brian for defending giulia. She’s legit and not a “schoolgirl”😂

    • @mitchie2267
      @mitchie2267 Рік тому

      Because she’s not a midget

    • @elvispressley2365
      @elvispressley2365 Рік тому +6

      Giulia, that's also an Alfa Romeo...

    • @gothard5
      @gothard5 Рік тому +8

      Julia? That cheerleader girl in AEW that joined Aleister Black's group?

    • @jaydenbolden7184
      @jaydenbolden7184 Рік тому +12

      @@gothard5 no😂she’s a Japanese wrestler but she’s really talented and looks like a wrestler.

    • @briannettles669
      @briannettles669 Рік тому +8

      Giulia looks like a star and could be very successful in the WWE or AEW.

  • @tyvillianheartthrob1856
    @tyvillianheartthrob1856 Рік тому +12

    Jim Cornette singing "This Is It" from "The Bugs Bunny and Tweety Show" was epic.

  • @austinlaxton93
    @austinlaxton93 Рік тому +6

    There’s no reason Dana White, Sean Shelby, Mick Maynard & the UFC should even be mentioned anywhere on these pro wrestling lists. It doesn’t make sense including them and is kind of a slap in the face to wrestling in my opinion.

  • @GrayFox24
    @GrayFox24 Рік тому +11

    34:42 Brian Last’s laugh sounded exactly like Magic Johnson in the “Dream Team” documentary, when Magic was describing his pass during practice “HEEHEE”

  • @ScottsCollection
    @ScottsCollection Рік тому +34

    I got Pro Wrestling Illustrated from late 80s to mid 90s. A lot of the awards would go to non WWF guys... And of course WCW would acknowledge their wins on air.

    • @elvispressley2365
      @elvispressley2365 Рік тому +1

      You got their correct... something only Cornette fans do amongst the unwashed masses of "wrasslin" fans.

    • @chico1680
      @chico1680 Рік тому +4

      I remember Malenko winning WOTY in 97 when it usually went to top guys like Hogan and Flair

    • @zemm9003
      @zemm9003 Рік тому +4

      ​@@chico1680 in 97????? With Shawn Michaels, Bret Hart, The Undertaker, Austin all at their prime???????? Then we have to conclude that these awards were always trash.

    • @Smokey1419
      @Smokey1419 Рік тому +2

      @@zemm9003 HBK was getting annoying in 97, Taker was still havinh the same kind of matches, and Austin was better on the mic than in ring. I started watching wrestling in 97, and Malenko always had great matches

    • @zemm9003
      @zemm9003 Рік тому +4

      @@Smokey1419 97 was the foundation of DX and Michaels was at his peak. Bret Hart had one of the best in ring years despite losing in Montreal. Undertaker had awesome feuds with both. This was Austin's best year overall with the exception of 1998 and maybe (arguable) 1999. You marks can come up with any excuse under the sun to defend nonsense. Malenko was always a charisma vacuum and he was not as good a wrestler as his friends.

  • @BookerT69
    @BookerT69 Рік тому +30

    I’ve always liked Booker T I think he’s great in and out the ring

  • @freehat6180
    @freehat6180 Рік тому +101

    Gunther is the guy to watch under any circumstances if you enjoy Pro Wrestling. The match he had with Rey mysterio was great, the best wrestling match I'd seen in years.

    • @carloscolon3331
      @carloscolon3331 Рік тому +5

      Walter is guy that think of when it comes to wrestling good physic works smoothly with other and know how to make a match look real.

    • @darksideon
      @darksideon Рік тому +8

      What was so great about the RAW 30th anniversary show, was seeing how happy Gunther was to be in the ring with DX & Angle. He comes off like such a badass, but even he couldn't hide his smile during that segment.

    • @metalheadjake3339
      @metalheadjake3339 Рік тому +2

      GUNTHER is outstanding

    • @MrSircharles05
      @MrSircharles05 Рік тому +5

      If Cody never came back to the WWE, I could see Gunther being the one to eventually dethrone Roman Reigns.

    • @homedeezyfasheezy5662
      @homedeezyfasheezy5662 Рік тому +3

      He wrestles like bully which is sorely lacking in modern wrestling. That combined with that aura of being a stone faced hoss makes him top notch .

  • @JKimma8080
    @JKimma8080 Рік тому +56

    Having been a fan for the better part of 35 years I can honestly say I had no idea who Uncle Dave was until about ten years ago and I feel like that's a great thing.

    • @williammitchell4417
      @williammitchell4417 Рік тому +4

      I've been a fan for over 40 years, I knew about Apter when Uncle Dave was still in Grade school

    • @Dwayne0630
      @Dwayne0630 Рік тому +5

      Probably not… for a long time Meltzer gave pretty decent criticism and feedback… it’s always been biased towards Japanese and Indy promotions, but at least it felt like he was trying to be fair…
      Since 2016 with Omega and Okada, and his popularity blowing up on UA-cam and twitter he has kind of let it all go to his head, and now spews bullshit as if he is an omnipotent source of wrestling doctrine rather than just a well informed fan with a keyboard…

    • @bigron8896
      @bigron8896 Рік тому +1

      I had no idea who he was until I heard about him in these podcasts after those bootleg rocker aew boys had the Meltzer bomb or some such rubbish. Like wtf names a wrestling move after a journalist? Waiting for the Connie Chung piledriver.

    • @duckmercy11
      @duckmercy11 Рік тому +2

      @@Dwayne0630 "As if he is some omnipotent source of wrestling doctrine", you mean like Cornette?

    • @Raven34643
      @Raven34643 Рік тому +6

      ​@@duckmercy11 The difference is Cornette actually worked in the wrestling business for four decades as a manager, promoter, trainer, and booker. Dave has never been anything more than an "observer."

  • @Bjaerke
    @Bjaerke Рік тому +15

    Ngl the WON awards 2022 are one of the best comedy skits that ever happened.
    Booker of the year - a guy who books a show that constantly loses views.
    Wrestler of the year - a guy people made compilations about of him blading on camera and bc of his tremendous skill he get's cought every single time
    Worst promotion of the year - the promotion who has constantly the highest view numbers and makes the most money
    etc
    It's so hilarious.

    • @metalheadjake3339
      @metalheadjake3339 Рік тому

      WON voters are not a smart bunch but they think they are.

    • @Kr4ShSkeL
      @Kr4ShSkeL Рік тому

      WWE wins worst promotion of the year since 20 years are you stupid or new to the business ?

    • @duckmercy11
      @duckmercy11 Рік тому

      McDonalds makes the most burgers and most money but any restaurant connoisseur would rate them among the worst dining establishments quality-wise.

  • @peterlee6374
    @peterlee6374 Рік тому +7

    All these awards show is exactly the reason why wwe doesn’t listen to the hardcore fanbase
    Wwe won almost all the “worst of” awards yet was the only company to be up in ratings ticket sales revenue and profit

    • @duckmercy11
      @duckmercy11 Рік тому +2

      Stardom has tripled their ticket sales and revenue since 2018, but I agree you can't just listen to smarks when making booking decisions.

  • @jciii3334
    @jciii3334 Рік тому +13

    Jesus God!?!? Jon Moxley!!??? Are you effing kidding me!!!!

    • @elvispressley2365
      @elvispressley2365 Рік тому +1

      Here on out, he shall be referred to as merely The Plumber.

    • @jciii3334
      @jciii3334 Рік тому

      @Elvis Pressley There will be stories told to children about the Blood drinking, bone chewing "Plummer of Cincinnati:" who haunts the outlaw mud shows of the darkest regions of this country.

  • @aliwilliams9934
    @aliwilliams9934 Рік тому +7

    This shit sounds like the AEW Awards. I don’t want to hear any about bias anymore.

  • @packersfaninvegas
    @packersfaninvegas Рік тому +10

    Dave's bias is only because WWE never embraced him like the Nerds in AEW Dave's been lost credibility long time ago

  • @meharinationsportspodcast2582
    @meharinationsportspodcast2582 Рік тому +5

    33:13 - Brian's message to Dave Meltzer!!!😂😂😂
    "Dave!!! If you have 18 people voting for the Jericho appreciation society vs Black Pool combat club as feud of the year. You should take away their subscription!!!! Just eat the cost!!!
    They don't the deserve to get the newsletter anymore because there idiots!!!!"
    HUGE BURIAL!!!😂😂😂😂

  • @JohnTravolta62435
    @JohnTravolta62435 Рік тому +14

    Jim saying "Who?What?" When Brian was saying the Japanese tag teams had me dying hahahaha

  • @silvereloking6149
    @silvereloking6149 Рік тому +13

    Take Roman Reigns out and this is actually 9 worst wrestlers

    • @destino3945
      @destino3945 7 місяців тому +2

      I know this is incredibly old, but Bryan Danielson is one of the 9 worst wrestlers in the world?

    • @SpiralPoliFemboy
      @SpiralPoliFemboy 7 місяців тому

      ​@@destino3945Not one of the worst but he's bad. Always does the same shit and he did a comedy dance routine mid match with Kenny in PWG once.
      The way I see it, Roman and Danielson both suck and are very boring and predictable in ring and neither can cut a good promo.

    • @SpiralPoliFemboy
      @SpiralPoliFemboy 7 місяців тому +1

      Roman has always sucked. The rest of the list just sucks more.

  • @marqj2781
    @marqj2781 Рік тому +6

    Jim's "What!" And Brians"at ni he heee "will Kill me everytime 🤣

  • @sy8jr80
    @sy8jr80 Рік тому +12

    I have not watched one second of watching live on tv in years but man JC is must listen every week and this segment had me laughing the entire time even if i don't know what half of the wrestlers look like. PS i watched wresting from the late 80 's through the attitude era.

  • @Pupsterization122
    @Pupsterization122 Рік тому +13

    AEW / IWC marks are a joke for patting themselves on the back with these awards Lmao

    • @getschwifty9531
      @getschwifty9531 Рік тому

      So are you for giving this so much importance.

    • @dngn4774
      @dngn4774 Рік тому +2

      @@getschwifty9531 Ridicule isn't the same as outrage. Only wrestling fans can perceive people laughing in their face as being triggered.

  • @carloscjr23
    @carloscjr23 Рік тому +30

    I know I'm not the only one, we need a corny awards yesterday
    I don't care if it's just him shooting in modern wrestling for 2 hours, we need that, we want that!

    • @duckmercy11
      @duckmercy11 Рік тому

      They only shoot on modern stuff that comports to their outdated opinions. Neither of them watch MLW, NXT, NJPW, NOAH, Stardom or any other respectable product and spend time crying about how the past was better because theyre stuck in a time warp.

  • @cameronallen5043
    @cameronallen5043 Рік тому +6

    Moxley is total butt cheeks, but Rampage being in the top 3 weekly shows is very telling how garbage these awards are.

  • @Oh-ffs
    @Oh-ffs Рік тому +30

    This shows why Dave caters to the AEW fanbase, they're his observor subscribers

    • @WillowGlen-hh7vp
      @WillowGlen-hh7vp Рік тому +3

      But they are the AEW fanbase BECAUSE theyre his Observer readers. Hes the Sean Hannity of wrestling. Facts dont matter and its the only thing they read.

    • @Chuck_EL
      @Chuck_EL Рік тому +1

      ​@@WillowGlen-hh7vp Adam Blampeid is the IWC version of Dave Meltzer
      Watch some of his takes he's about as ridiculous as Dave Meltzer

  • @kylek9684
    @kylek9684 Рік тому +4

    48:14 NOOO!! the way Jim says RENEE MOXLEY GOODE this time is different lmfao it's the best one yet! ahahaa

  • @captain-brickhead8317
    @captain-brickhead8317 Рік тому +18

    Poured myself a whiskey because this one should be good! 🥃 Cheers cult of cornette!

  • @AlwaysOnDeck
    @AlwaysOnDeck Рік тому +7

    CM Punk should have won "Best Brawler."

  • @mick16wtf
    @mick16wtf Рік тому +5

    Truly wise word from Award Winning Jewish Co-host of the year on the Cornette show

  • @Matt-cr4vv
    @Matt-cr4vv Рік тому +5

    I’m glad that from the start they point out just what these awards happen to actually be, who votes on them, and how many people actually do vote on them before they dove in to the review. That is absolutely key in this before you start any review or analysis of what the results happen to be. You see so many people on social media or in a comments section go crazy with disbelief or screaming foul when these results end up being revealed because they don’t pause to consider just what these awards fully entail and how that explains why the results happen to be what they are every year. These awards are not decided by some respected independent voting base to ever be confused as some measure of objective opinions but rather are voted on by subscribers of the newsletter and even then only those who actually decide to vote to begin with.
    When reviewed in proper context the results shouldn’t be a shock at all. It really shouldn’t be a big leap to recognize that people who pay to consume Dave’s opinions of wrestling are also likely to share his tastes of wrestling and who is or isn’t good. So it’s always amusing to see people hurling accusations that Dave fixes the results to what he wants them to end up being and the like. The reality is the results largely align to what Dave’s taste happens to be because the people who vote on this pay for Dave’s opinions and thus probably share similar opinions to those he has so when the votes turn out that way it really isn’t some surprise to occur. People shouldn’t be fooling themselves into believeing these to be some objective measurement of anything more than the tastes of an audience who share tastes with Dave. But seeing AEW take them so seriously will always be funny to see - obviously they’re happy to do that because Dave and his audience like their product and naturally it leads to their consistent winning of such awards when the people who vote on it prefer their show. But they mean nothing as it relates to objectivity of any kind and people should always recognize that from the start.

  • @MilMaska
    @MilMaska Рік тому +7

    "Yea right and you saw it from where ? Oakland." - Kevin Nash

    • @duckmercy11
      @duckmercy11 Рік тому

      It's this little thing called "the internet."

  • @CadChamberlain
    @CadChamberlain Рік тому +4

    "Bank-addicted drug robbers"
    Diesel line from Cornette

  • @karlm641
    @karlm641 9 місяців тому +4

    The fact Roman Reigns isn’t the clear winner sums up what a bunch of dorks the WON audience really are…

  • @decepticonxhunter4850
    @decepticonxhunter4850 Рік тому +5

    Paul Heyman that far down the list in the Best Interview category is just criminal, especially when he's behind someone as comically stale as MJF. That guy can hype up some opponents better than they could hype themselves up.

  • @corpyhogan4433
    @corpyhogan4433 Рік тому +51

    It’s a flawed award system because they actively train their followers who to like

    • @staalhard4044
      @staalhard4044 Рік тому +2

      kinda like WWE's main event scene

    • @ChiefDede15
      @ChiefDede15 Рік тому +15

      @@staalhard4044 that’s how wrestling promotions work.

    • @frankE91210
      @frankE91210 Рік тому +2

      just like real politics

    • @djpaul8705
      @djpaul8705 Рік тому +2

      Lol. Yes. That is Dave's intention

    • @natebaxter9551
      @natebaxter9551 Рік тому +5

      ​@@ChiefDede15 he really thought he was thought provoking there.

  • @Crashj7f67h
    @Crashj7f67h Рік тому +2

    How are people voting WWE as the worst promotion, but they voted In WWE people on the best booker topic?

  • @claudewashington9196
    @claudewashington9196 Рік тому +14

    Not sure how we'll pull it off, but one of these days, you & Jim need to do a watch-a-along of a Stardom show.

  • @charliecohall9243
    @charliecohall9243 Рік тому +6

    These AEW fans are sick

  • @wildwine6400
    @wildwine6400 Рік тому +26

    Most charismatic wrestler- MJF. Won by a heel! Brilliant.

    • @staalhard4044
      @staalhard4044 Рік тому

      if you think charisma is an exclusive face characteristic maybe you should look up the definition.
      Charles Manson, Adolf Hitler, Vince McMahon, Donald Trump, Andrew Tate... All vile human beings, yet charismatic enough to get a huge following

    • @rusuyta4429
      @rusuyta4429 Рік тому +2

      So?

    • @wildwine6400
      @wildwine6400 Рік тому +6

      @@rusuyta4429 previous winners are baby faces like Hogan , Stone Cold and The Rock as face. A bad guy shouldn't be charismatic being cheered, that's bad heel work. Charisma means he liked by the fans. Thats the opposite of a heel

    • @J.D.1.
      @J.D.1. Рік тому +4

      From Google
      Charisma (noun):
      Compelling attractiveness or charm that can inspire devotion in others ...
      Yep. You nailed it. Not something good heel work should be described as.

    • @staalhard4044
      @staalhard4044 Рік тому

      How bout The Rock's heel run? Did he lose his charisma back then? Dumb zoomers.

  • @wildwine6400
    @wildwine6400 Рік тому +14

    FTR as best tag team is surprising. They've had 2 good matches all year, which is pretty much their only matches this year 😅

    • @templeos2954
      @templeos2954 Рік тому +13

      It's bullshit that it's not the Uso's who won that

    • @hdgames5689
      @hdgames5689 Рік тому +1

      FTR held belts at same time in different promotions

    • @valeriye5018
      @valeriye5018 Рік тому

      They had few matches at AEW but lots on other promotions. Both matches with Briscoes were in ROH

    • @Kr4ShSkeL
      @Kr4ShSkeL Рік тому +1

      2 ?? No you just don't watch their work. They had 3 great matches with the briscoes, they had a very good tv match with the bucks, they had a very good ppv match with Aussie Open, they were champions of 3 different companies in 3 different contries....

    • @templeos2954
      @templeos2954 Рік тому +3

      @@Kr4ShSkeL 3 different countries, 3 different companies and only about 30 smarks care. Meanwhile the entire tag division at WWE functions around the chase for the titles and usurping the Uso's.
      I think I know which are the tag team of the year personally.

  • @richardpreston7333
    @richardpreston7333 Рік тому +3

    Just want to point out that for all the times he's called Paul out on his b.s. and stretching the truth like so much bubblegum, Jim will always give Heyman props for being great on the microphone

  • @bruno-lp6ds
    @bruno-lp6ds Рік тому +16

    we really need The Corny Awards

  • @Dan-ni7qv
    @Dan-ni7qv Рік тому +2

    Chris Jericho above MJF, Punk and Danielson hahaha stop my sides lmaoooo. Smakrs are beyond parody at this point.

  • @gr7993
    @gr7993 Рік тому +22

    It tells you that demo hates Cody because he’s on none of this. He came back, was giving great promos, and had good matches with Rollins.

    • @dngn4774
      @dngn4774 Рік тому

      Cody was injured for most of 2022. His 2023 stuff has been great though.

    • @gr7993
      @gr7993 Рік тому +3

      @@dngn4774 not really. He started the year in AEW, then from Wrestlemania till Hell in a Cell he’s been there. That’s like most of the Year.

    • @dngn4774
      @dngn4774 Рік тому +2

      @@gr7993 Yeah his AEW run wasn't good towards the end. Everyone kept saying "he's such a brilliant heel/it's a work/he's not really leaving" until he did, had one feud with Rollins and was injured the rest of the year.

    • @ronniejdio9411
      @ronniejdio9411 Рік тому

      Guy can't win an award for wrestling when he wrestled 2 matches

    • @gr7993
      @gr7993 Рік тому +2

      @@ronniejdio9411 You mean the guy who won an award for wrestling one match? (Cody won an espy for best WrestleMania moment)

  • @richardchisolm8430
    @richardchisolm8430 Рік тому +7

    To be clear….Meltzer had to come out and denounce some of these award winners like the Booker of the Year….even he had to admit how ridiculous the award winners were.

    • @freddiejohnson6137
      @freddiejohnson6137 Рік тому +6

      That's because he has trained his listeners and readers over the years to hate anything WWE does regardless of it being good or not and he can't accept it is down to what he says a lot of the time.

  • @williammitchell4417
    @williammitchell4417 Рік тому +8

    And Brian Danielson wins the Brian Danielson award... Now that confirms that this is a RIB!!!

    • @Kr4ShSkeL
      @Kr4ShSkeL Рік тому +4

      award was named after him when he retired

    • @supportpatriarchyordietrying
      @supportpatriarchyordietrying Рік тому

      @@Kr4ShSkeL wasn't it the Chris Benito Award before he had his roid rage?

    • @Kr4ShSkeL
      @Kr4ShSkeL Рік тому

      @@supportpatriarchyordietrying I don't think so, it would not make much sense since he "only" won it 3 times
      Danielson won it like 10 times in a row before his retirement 😂

    • @supportpatriarchyordietrying
      @supportpatriarchyordietrying Рік тому

      @@Kr4ShSkeL but Danielson was still sucking his momma's teet when Krispin Wah won those. And when Danielson won his first one, that other guy was long DEAD! So it must have had a different name before it was named after Danielson.

    • @Kr4ShSkeL
      @Kr4ShSkeL Рік тому

      @@supportpatriarchyordietrying he won his first one in 2005 so no he was not long dead.... He was just dead
      And ofc it had another name before being named after Danielso and it still does, it's the best technical wrestler award 🤷🏻‍♂️
      But it never was named after another guy, and it's the only one to be named after someone

  • @Bigkillaward
    @Bigkillaward Рік тому

    I needed a good Jimmy upload, I wish he'd do more I'm the news like he used too, I loved those

  • @al5306
    @al5306 Рік тому +2

    The guy who openly cuts himself on camera showing you how fake all of this is won the Lou Thesz award. Dave, and his readers, are completely lost in the sauce.

  • @Brando-Lee3725
    @Brando-Lee3725 Рік тому +3

    Mike Bailey could be somebody ! He already is in my eyes . He is innovative and can wrestle . Kommander is up there with El Vikingo In the Lucha highyfling style for sure ! But if any of them hit a peak and breakout on American TV in WWE or AEW , Its Speedball Mike Bailey !

  • @legacy7ds
    @legacy7ds Рік тому +13

    Giulia is actually a good wrestler and is over. She is someone I've kept up with.

    • @eiephants
      @eiephants Рік тому +3

      I thought they were talking about Julia Hart.

  • @jonvia
    @jonvia Рік тому +1

    1:01:38 Those guys are the bookers for the UFC lol Corny sounding like an owl "WHHHHHOOOOOOO?"

  • @gouthamkrishna8522
    @gouthamkrishna8522 5 місяців тому +2

    "The ring is sacred"
    -Gunther the brawler

  • @wildwine6400
    @wildwine6400 Рік тому +6

    The Fed Bad Awards

  • @phantomdriver2010
    @phantomdriver2010 Рік тому +2

    Gunther vs Sheamus not being match of the year is the stupidest shit. That match single handedly revived Sheamus and launched gunther

  • @misterelom
    @misterelom Рік тому +2

    Having Moxley winning an award named after Lou Thesz & Ric Flair is just so wrong. It would be like giving Vince Russo an award named after Eddie Graham.
    MJF, Heyman, & Punk should've been top 3 in the promo category (MJF & Heyman numbers 1 & 2, either order).

  • @yusufgazi7
    @yusufgazi7 Рік тому +4

    Cornette and Meltzer are the Obi-Wan and Darth Vader of wrestling

  • @MilkmanC
    @MilkmanC Рік тому +3

    7:32 Does he get all his comedy from Looney Tunes? lmaoo

  • @xymoriintus
    @xymoriintus Рік тому +2

    The observer newsletter voters are the same people who would send in video questions to kayfaybe commentaries

  • @lovelywaz
    @lovelywaz Рік тому +2

    The best trick that Chris Jericho ever pulled off was to convince some clueless idiots that he matters in 2020s! 😈😈😈😈

  • @finnegancourtney
    @finnegancourtney Рік тому +3

    20:16 that might be Brian’s best moment LOLLLLL

  • @Robby_C
    @Robby_C Рік тому +3

    Its a shame that the most vocal wrestling fans today also happen to be the dumbest, nerdiest, most socially inept group of marks in the entire history of pro-wrestling. And whats worse is they have insulated themselves into bubbles and convinced each other that anybody who doesn't like the same thing is just lying to be a hater or a troll... its mind numbing.

  • @AndersonTenecela
    @AndersonTenecela Рік тому +1

    34:42 Brian Last with that cartoon style laugh 😂

  • @DeaconG1959
    @DeaconG1959 Рік тому +2

    I also agree we need the Jim Cornette Experience Awards.

  • @mike55k2007
    @mike55k2007 Рік тому +3

    This was the funniest video Jim/Brian have done in a while.

  • @ChaseNada
    @ChaseNada Рік тому +14

    Hands down....if kenny does indeed jump to WWE, expect Dave to do a full 180 on AEW.
    He will follow his boy whereever he goes.

    • @patrickwilliams6143
      @patrickwilliams6143 Рік тому +12

      Nah, he would just bury HHH for not putting Kenny over Brock, Cody and Roman in the Wrestlemania main event.

    • @ChaseNada
      @ChaseNada Рік тому +5

      @@patrickwilliams6143 Fair point 🤣

    • @elvispressley2365
      @elvispressley2365 Рік тому +3

      Every crappy newsletter would be titled, "Why Doesn't Kenny Have All The Belts, Dammit?"

    • @Kr4ShSkeL
      @Kr4ShSkeL Рік тому

      180 on aew ? why ? he literally said Khan should not have won the booker of the year maybe stop thinking he's an AEW fanboy ?

    • @ChaseNada
      @ChaseNada Рік тому +7

      @@Kr4ShSkeL Recently, and just recently, yes but ask yourself why his fanbase chose Tony for booker of the year when his booking has been a puddle of piss for a long time now.
      Dave may be criticizing AEW a lot more often than he did before but that doesn't excuse the way he indoctrinated his sheep into accepting his word without any well thought out criticism.
      And for that alone, he shouldn't be let off so lightly. The braindead mentality of his subscriber base is entirely on his head.

  • @MCB741
    @MCB741 Рік тому +1

    Haven’t watched any of the uploaded videos today but noticed there are two smaller videos uploaded. Does this above have the two videos in it or are they separate?

  • @vincentr7092
    @vincentr7092 Рік тому

    I'm listening to this on the way home from work and I am dying of laughter. Jim's and Brian's reactions are priceless. When he read "Chris Jericho for Most Improved" I almost lost it. Good stuff here guys.

  • @ElmoKnowsWhereYouLive5150
    @ElmoKnowsWhereYouLive5150 Рік тому +6

    Omega vs Ospereay was an interesting match (too many false finishes & not enough psychology for my taste) and I respect Omega's athleticism & work in Japan. Everything else people like about him befuddles me.

    • @bucketoafterbirth
      @bucketoafterbirth Рік тому +3

      Completely agree. I don't get the appeal at all, but different strokes I suppose.

    • @Chuck_EL
      @Chuck_EL Рік тому

      ​​@@bucketoafterbirth it's the "Anti Top guy" smarky wrestler fandom
      The Anti Cena smarks did it with Punk and Bryan

  • @Dx298
    @Dx298 Рік тому +5

    The award for best wrestling documentary goes to Cocaine Bear: The Tony Khan Story

  • @clifforddavidson7273
    @clifforddavidson7273 Рік тому +7

    We're not going to talk about the real controversy of these Awards? Bryan Danielson winning the Bryan Danielson award? Talk about a fix! I want a Thorough investigation done

  • @Jwjmcc
    @Jwjmcc Рік тому +3

    That lists show only one thing and that is the only people buying the observer now it’s the 900,000 aew fans

  • @tysheinin8733
    @tysheinin8733 Рік тому +5

    Thought I'd watch the clips first but nah...I gotta hear the whole review

  • @Tom_TheDon
    @Tom_TheDon Рік тому +4

    Wrestling observer newsletter is embarrassingly cringe and not worth airtime…..except for here 😂

  • @LewisCampbellTech
    @LewisCampbellTech Рік тому

    I'm dying at jim cornette doing the sponsor at the end. "Now once they have your address they may stop by.."

  • @televiper11
    @televiper11 Рік тому +2

    Awards like this really makes it sink in that pro wrestling is basically dead

  • @NoName-cz3wn
    @NoName-cz3wn Рік тому +6

    It would be hilarious if Tony turns on Meltzer a la Helwani, and in response petty ol Dave goes "oh yeah, well Jericho was the one that leaked the CM Punk stuff, painted your EVPs as villains and cost you your biggest money star and your biggest public blunder!"
    I can dream

  • @JenzKeller
    @JenzKeller Рік тому +4

    Here we go...

  • @geraldmorgan6906
    @geraldmorgan6906 Рік тому

    Jim reading the sponsor blurbs is the funniest part of the whole show.

  • @SAMCRO_89
    @SAMCRO_89 Рік тому +2

    🤣🤣 I lost it when Brian said "And at number 2 for best brawler for the Bruiser Brody Memorial award Tomohiro Ishii" and Jim went "Oh ffs the potato? the Japanese potato with arms and legs".

    • @duckmercy11
      @duckmercy11 Рік тому

      Cornette literally thinks Mike Kanelis (remember that?) and Matt Taven of all people could be top stars, that's even funnier.

  • @curtisbryant6252
    @curtisbryant6252 Рік тому +5

    “Giulia…she’s fine leave her alone”= damn right

  • @klawstecno2083
    @klawstecno2083 Рік тому +8

    The Pitch Black Match was really bad and even Dave said that, but if the same match happened on PWG for example,he would had made look like the best thing ever,just because it was on the indies.

  • @MyGodzilla10
    @MyGodzilla10 Рік тому +1

    Can't wait for for Jim and Last do the review for this next year.

  • @Oleksandr.Derkach
    @Oleksandr.Derkach Рік тому +1

    43:39 - OMG! I'm dead 🤣🤣🤣

  • @John_1077
    @John_1077 Рік тому +7

    Must cost Jericho a fortune paying for all those observer subscriptions 🤣