This Obscure Move Makes Jamie the Best Counter-Attacker in Street Fighter 6
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- Опубліковано 11 вер 2024
- I go over the secret move that should make your opponent scared to pressure or interrupt you.
So the saying goes - Jamie is bottom tier because he lack damage and needs to sacrifice pressure for drinks. But Capcom gave him this move - the Hermit’s Elbow - that has flown under the radar for too long now. I believe proper usage of this move, along with anti-airing with down + double kicks, makes him at least mid-tier.
My secret art - the Hermit’s Elbow.
When you’re done with this, go watch the sequel to this video, The Secret Art - Part II, to learn how to use this move offensively:
• The Secret Art of the ...
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I literally never use elbow. Thank you for slapping me awake with your facts and knowledge, I will grind this
Glad to help my dude! I actually found even more use cases for the move just now and made a Part II sequel to this video. Here’s how to use it for active pressure: ua-cam.com/video/2p5N6JN07RQ/v-deo.htmlsi=0ZD3zrXFtWrdz0o9
I swear, every time I accidently input hermits elbow, it always ends well for me, and for some reason, it took me watching this watching to realize that I should use it more
The move is literally called a counter in its description in the move list. I feel so stupid for not realizing that I should be looking to use it for exactly that sotuation.
Haha better late than never! I actually found even more use cases for the move just now and made a Part II sequel to this video. Here’s how to use it for active pressure: ua-cam.com/video/2p5N6JN07RQ/v-deo.htmlsi=0ZD3zrXFtWrdz0o9
Duuuude Ive never used this move once intentionally in a real match. Jamie has so much to learn hes a deep character. Thank you for the tips man
Glad to help my man!
Tbh hermit's elbow is kinda nutty, especially if you do jump attack into grab alot. It's a good way to be a strike throw mixup for your own offense.
Yeah man glad to help! I actually found even more use cases for the move just now and made a Part II sequel to this video. Here’s how to use it for active pressure: ua-cam.com/video/2p5N6JN07RQ/v-deo.htmlsi=0ZD3zrXFtWrdz0o9
I was thining about the defensive utility of 4hp, being able to use it against block strings and setups, great to see it on a video with examples. Thanks.
Yeah man glad to help! I actually found even more use cases for the move just now and made a Part II sequel to this video. Here’s how to use it for active pressure: ua-cam.com/video/2p5N6JN07RQ/v-deo.htmlsi=0ZD3zrXFtWrdz0o9
Had literally 0 idea this existed. Gonna be my new go to abare option now
Helpful and succinct, perfect video! The Jamie army can't be stopped!
Yeah man glad to help! I actually found even more use cases for the move just now and made a Part II sequel to this video. Here’s how to use it for active pressure: ua-cam.com/video/2p5N6JN07RQ/v-deo.htmlsi=0ZD3zrXFtWrdz0o9
Ngl this the best Jamie video I’ve seen I’ve been struggling with hole sooooo much but this just made a complete difference
this is awesome! just been getting into Jamie a bit, so this will be very useful, thanks!
Glad it was helpful!
Also, I actually found even more use cases for the move just now and made a Part II sequel to this video. Here’s how to use it for active pressure: ua-cam.com/video/2p5N6JN07RQ/v-deo.htmlsi=0ZD3zrXFtWrdz0o9
Oh thanks for the hint. I’ve been trying to figure out how to use this move for a while.
It seems to bring back jamies hurtbox, great move that’s rarely used.
I knew there was some use to the elbow. Just couldn't figure it out because we would always use it in offensive situations. subbed.
Glad to help, my dude! I actually found even more use cases for the move just now and made a Part II sequel to this video. Here’s how to use it for active pressure: ua-cam.com/video/2p5N6JN07RQ/v-deo.htmlsi=0ZD3zrXFtWrdz0o9
This is why I play Marissa so I can be like "no thank you it's my turn now" 😂 great video mate, jamie doesn't get enough credit!
Holy, I've just picked up Jamie, after playing mainly Dee Jay: I see I no longer need to miss his faints in Jamie games! Thanks!
Just when I thought I was down and out, tricks like this keep me getting back in. Great advice!
Yeah man glad to help! I actually found even more use cases for the move just now and made a Part II sequel to this video. Here’s how to use it for active pressure: ua-cam.com/video/2p5N6JN07RQ/v-deo.htmlsi=0ZD3zrXFtWrdz0o9
Wait! Omg thank you! I never even thought to utilize Elbow like that. Definitely adding it to my Tech!
Glad to help, my dude! I actually found even more use cases for the move just now and made a Part II sequel to this video. Here’s how to use it for active pressure: ua-cam.com/video/2p5N6JN07RQ/v-deo.htmlsi=0ZD3zrXFtWrdz0o9
To be honest, as another Jamie main, I think his elbow uses are VERY situational. This video shows it’s used in good faith, but it makes it seem as if every Ken or Cammy player is going to do three jabs on block into whatever. That may be an optimal space for Jamie’s elbow but if the opponent mixes it up with one or two jabs, or into a long reaching normal like Ken st.hp, it’s not gonna work.
Also, the throw tech dodge isn’t guaranteed either. I checked in the lab against Ryu and Ken. DR st.hp into throw CANNOT be dodged by Jamie’s elbow if their throws are well-timed (meaning no frame delay in between the HP and the throw). The Ryu you fought against didn’t throw right away after the HP, so there was a little gap for you to use elbow.
Wow, hope more Jamie's players find this. I play chun abd i gardky ever see my opponents use this. Ive been thinking of trying jamie out though...
Awesome video and ty for showing that string after his Lvl 3, I'll practice this in the lab!
I think ive finally found a high rank jamie to learn from. I know this move had to be good, but never knew when i should use it. extremely helpful tips. thank you.
Aw thanks man, glad to help! I actually found even more use cases for the move just now and made a Part II sequel to this video. Here’s how to use it for active pressure: ua-cam.com/video/2p5N6JN07RQ/v-deo.htmlsi=0ZD3zrXFtWrdz0o9
Thank you! I've only been using the tool as a shimmy in the corner or on knockdown. Thank you for showing me another way to use this tool!
You’re very welcome! I actually found even more use cases for the move just now and made a Part II sequel to this video. Here’s how to use it for active pressure: ua-cam.com/video/2p5N6JN07RQ/v-deo.htmlsi=0ZD3zrXFtWrdz0o9
naaaaahhhh you're COOKOING bro said "but guess what?" 5 seconds into the demonstration, and then proceeded to demonstrate lol
@3:10
The little pause after Cammy hit our boy, killed me 😂
subscribed! This is godlike presentation bro! Keep it up!
Just got back into SF and started rising up from plat 2 to 4. Most games are close but I think this will help for a diamond push. Thank you!
Awesome content, I only ever properly considered 4HP as a throw bait after wakeup but I'm definitely going to try and get my Jamie to use it more
Yeah man glad to help! I actually found even more use cases for the move just now and made a Part II sequel to this video. Here’s how to use it for active pressure: ua-cam.com/video/2p5N6JN07RQ/v-deo.htmlsi=0ZD3zrXFtWrdz0o9
Holy shit... this is gonna change soo many of my gripes of getting hit by half screen moves. Thank you for the tech.
I don’t even play Jamie but I just love people finding tech for low tiers or off meta characters!
Every time I’ve accidentally used this move it’s worked out
Literal risk free backdash, jamie has so much more potential
Cool video! Love to see these kinds of developments!
Thanks man! I actually found even more use cases for the move just now and made a Part II sequel to this video. Here’s how to use it for active pressure: ua-cam.com/video/2p5N6JN07RQ/v-deo.htmlsi=0ZD3zrXFtWrdz0o9
I've only ever thought of this as an offensive tool against grabs. I was telling myself to use stLP into the target combo but this is a nice variation, plus it can cancel into SA2. This is really good stuff!
I’ve only used this move for a shimmy, thanks for sharing
This is so hype! As an Elena fan I might just switch to Jamie now
Happy to help! I actually found even more use cases for the move just now and made a Part II sequel to this video. Here’s how to use it for active pressure: ua-cam.com/video/2p5N6JN07RQ/v-deo.htmlsi=0ZD3zrXFtWrdz0o9
Great Info was about to Make Video on it and found some useful info here Big Thumbs Up!
I’ve never seen any Jamie use this
Back swing elbow! I haven't played enough to utilize this move yet, but I'm looking forward to it and thankful for showing off some applications of it already! Valentine in Skullgirls has similarly applicable normals!
Did you notice, 5mk also has a bit of a reelback on the lower part of his hitbox?
Yes 5mk is quite Godlike in neutral and in certain blockstring situations. I wished I had enough brain capacity to play multiple fighting games like that. Takes me so long to retrain fingers each time I switch character!
This is incredible. This is what I need to push through the wall I was feeling, I think.
I haven't been playing the game but damn this makes Jamie look interesting to play
Ngl your voice is relaxing. Also clever guide, thanks
Haha thanks - happy to help!
My laziness is why I never found this out before you told me thanks you get my like and sub
Doesn't Luke also have this with his 4HP, which is also cancellable on block?
Goated video. Was getting burnt out but this might get me back in
Hey man glad to breathe something new into your style!
Thank you for reminding me that Luke also has that move and I should use it
Did we forget drive reversal exists? Plus it's worth it because the opponent DRCs for 3 bars while you only need 2 bars
The HERMITS elbow is SECRET SAUCEEE
I've always known that the elbow was a sleeper hit, but I would never think to use it on defense, thank you for the advice
Yea people been sleeping on this move and if you dr with this move you can get a 50/50 grab
Ive only used this move as a bait to throws, but +5 for a near perfect space trap pre drink level 3 felt awful. Using it more defensively is something i feel terrible for not experimenting with more. Always optimg for parry and ex dp over driver reversal or the more defensive baits.
Thanks gor this
Damn I forgot about that elbow thank you!
Good vid. Would you ever try Rashid or are you sticking strictly with Jamie? I always love seeing new Rashid tech vids. He feels like such a goldmine for obscure setups.
Maybe! I’ve got a few more Jamie techs to go, so I might expand to other characters. I generally like to stick with low tiers though
@WeHoBo Isn't Rashid mid to low tier? Higher than Jamie, but still not a top tier imo.
A couple characters have a step back heavy punch lol good to know for people who dont explore their characters kits though
Great video, thank you man!
I thought you were talking about the eye poke for a second 😂
I use it all the time. It's powerful AF.
It also beats shimmies if you're not in the corner. If they hit and walk back to shimmy you, you can use elbow as an autoshimmy
Oh cool, I was under the impression that the move wasn't all that good until 3 drinks in, but I guess I need to make sure to start using it more
Yeah man glad to help! I actually found even more use cases for the move just now and made a Part II sequel to this video. Here’s how to use it for active pressure: ua-cam.com/video/2p5N6JN07RQ/v-deo.htmlsi=0ZD3zrXFtWrdz0o9
@WeHoBo yup I watched and liked that video too lol. Lots of good tips on your channel 👍
@@chiefleo6264 aww thanks man! Really encouraging since I just started making these like a couple weeks ago!
the target combo you get from level 3 is super specific in how you have to space it to get the full combo. otherwise it's not a true combo and is super unsafe on block. the length to use it about the full length of his jab (level 1 onwards) after it's been blocked, so you have to be super observant of when you can spring it on someone, and at the point you have some better, safer, and more rewarding options. They ought to tweak that weird target combo among the small buffs Jamie could use.
@@BronzeAgePepperthey need to make the second hit special cancellable at the very least. That way we can make it somewhat safe if we guess wrong.
This is so interesting, gonna send it to my friend who mains Jamie
Thanks man glad to help! I actually found even more use cases for the move just now and made a Part II sequel to this video. Here’s how to use it for active pressure: ua-cam.com/video/2p5N6JN07RQ/v-deo.htmlsi=0ZD3zrXFtWrdz0o9
You just made a subscriber out of me, great information and examples
Aww thanks man, more to come!
"DI is so slow and reactable!"
Yeah, exactly! *still getting hit by di*
Honestly, me too. I say it’s slow and reachable because every time I try to do it, I get counter-DI’d to death :/
Liked, commented, and subscribed. Thanks for the tech!
Oohooo thank YOU!
Bro just revealed victorias secret
The first time I got hit by this normal(like 5 days ago) I tought it was a rekka, never had seen it being before 😂
Create more contents like this. You're very good.
Thank you, I will! I’m still new at this so suggestions are welcome!
Aren’t I glad I clicked on this video 😂 thanks man! us Jamie means got to stick together
Jamie bros let’s goo! I actually found even more use cases for the move just now and made a Part II sequel to this video. Here’s how to use it for active pressure: ua-cam.com/video/2p5N6JN07RQ/v-deo.htmlsi=0ZD3zrXFtWrdz0o9
@@WeHoBo Yee! Thank man :)
I'm 3S, Elena had back+HK. It worked very similarly.
Nah, the algorithm coming in clutch? Nice tech, just started playing Jamie and matches on diamond are rough, i'm predicting Jamie on future patches to be top tier though 👀
Happy to help, and thanks, Algo God! I actually found even more use cases for the move just now and made a Part II sequel to this video. Here’s how to use it for active pressure: ua-cam.com/video/2p5N6JN07RQ/v-deo.htmlsi=0ZD3zrXFtWrdz0o9
Siiiiick thanks for sharing 🙇♂️
This might be a reeeeally weird request but could we get some tips on Gief counters as Jamie? Maybe it's but my skill but I find the match up to be so difficult with the lack of keep away, are there any tips you could share?
Hmmm that’s a good idea for a future video - like a match up series maybe ?
@WeHoBo Exactly! Like I love Jamie and he's definitely the most fun to play. And I mean he's definitely not as low on the tier list as some make him out to be but imo neither is Zangief. His charged HP has armor and feels safe on block (haven't checked the data info) and I mean sure his grabs are semi predictable i.e. the running bear grab. But like Jamie NEEDS to be in the opponents face and doesn't have the luxury of projectiles to zone out a Grappler. Just wondering if you have any pointers on bad match ups for Jamie
This is GREAT. I'm gonna pick Jamie back up!!!
Glad this gave you some motivation - we need more Jamie’s!
Jamie teaching us how to play Jamie
Lol I guess I’ll get a long braid!
sick video, subbed
Is there much difference between level 3, 4 drinks and this move? Also does it shimmy against throws even in the corner? This is really useful thanks.
At 4:43 he avoids the throw. As for level 3 or 4s. The 4hp has longer reach and gains extra combos for that I guess
At 3 drinks and above this move dishes backwards even further so it’s even better.
Also, I actually found even more use cases for the move just now and made a Part II sequel to this video. Here’s how to use it for active pressure: ua-cam.com/video/2p5N6JN07RQ/v-deo.htmlsi=0ZD3zrXFtWrdz0o9
You're telling me Jamie now actually has a chance to make it in this game
Yeah man, I’m gonna keep posting things I discover so stay tuned and let’s see if we can’t get Jamie to be more represented. Tired of Ken and JP every fight.
Nice vid
Dude @Brian_F I’m a huge fan of yours! I actually discovered even more use cases and made a “sequel” to this: The Secret Art of the Hermit’s Elbow - Part II
ua-cam.com/video/2p5N6JN07RQ/v-deo.html
Great video!
Thank you!
Great video dude!
Thanks man! I actually just found even more use cases for the move and made a Part II sequel to this video. Here’s how to use it for active pressure: ua-cam.com/video/2p5N6JN07RQ/v-deo.htmlsi=0ZD3zrXFtWrdz0o9
Yo I needed this ❤
Yeah man glad to help! I actually found even more use cases for the move just now and made a Part II sequel to this video. Here’s how to use it for active pressure: ua-cam.com/video/2p5N6JN07RQ/v-deo.htmlsi=0ZD3zrXFtWrdz0o9
We're so back Jamie bros
thanks for this, really useful!
You're welcome! Lemme know if there’s anything else I should cover
@@WeHoBo I was going to mention anti airs but saw you already have a video about it lol, tried out the hermit's elbow in some ranked earlier and it was doing some business for me down in plat 3 😁
I actually found even more use cases for the move just now and made a Part II sequel to this video. Here’s how to use it for active pressure: ua-cam.com/video/2p5N6JN07RQ/v-deo.htmlsi=0ZD3zrXFtWrdz0o9
this video changed my life
how much can you just ignore drinking on Jamie? It makes no sense that he losses stacks between rounds but Manon doesn’t
Bro as a Jamie main this is Golden!
Glad to help my dude! I actually found even more use cases for the move just now and made a Part II sequel to this video. Here’s how to use it for active pressure: ua-cam.com/video/2p5N6JN07RQ/v-deo.htmlsi=0ZD3zrXFtWrdz0o9
Great video and info I’ll lab this myself too, thanks!
Tekken has a lot of attacks like this 😊
It’s crazy they he is the only character that has a move like this. Seeing as how a lot of characters run pressure they way they do. Wonder if I should pick him up or if we’ll see another move like this for someone I actually like playing. Lol
I actually misspoke in the video - forgot that Luke also has a similar move. But Luke is already S-Tier so OF COURSE he’d also get this move :/
@@WeHoBo cammy may have one too. It’s like a back away kick that looks similar to m.K
Luke has a similar b. H punch too
Great insight!
Makes me want to play Jamie even more.
It makes me wonder if everyone has a similar move
Luke has a normal just like this but he can special cancel it, making it exponentially better. I like Luke but if I were to pick him just for tier list placement, that'd be just one of many reasons...but I pick Jamie instead cus I enjoy him more.
@@BronzeAgePepper yeah. I get it. I don't like Luke at all but I noticed how effective he was minutes after playing the demo. I stopped playing part V by the time he was released though.
This is the 2nd video I have seen this, there was a guy who made a video on this like a month ago... Still top Jamie players aren't using it because it's situational... Jamie just did ok at Evo...
Thanks! Jamie is my secondary
Yeah man glad to help! I actually found even more use cases for the move just now and made a Part II sequel to this video. Here’s how to use it for active pressure: ua-cam.com/video/2p5N6JN07RQ/v-deo.htmlsi=0ZD3zrXFtWrdz0o9
There are a lot of unique normals in Jamie's kit that haven't been explored
I'll be labbing this now but if you have any insight to the fwdHK follow ups or the bckHP follow ups when at higher drink levels I'm open to any suggestions
i hate that i found this video after i hit diamond, now i gotta make another video
Awesome video! Got one question though, when Ryu was burned out I noticed you kept hitting 5hp 2lp. Is this string safe to punish against burnt out opponents?
It is completely safe against burned out opponents UNLESS they have a CA/Super bar. If they don’t have at least a level 1 super, they just have to block. Anything else they do, they will be hit.
@@WeHoBo Thank you so much for the reply. I'll have to try that out for sure.
If you are late on the cr lp by even a frame, they can throw their fastest move and it will trade. I mention it since it happens to me every so often
Also, I actually found even more use cases for the move just now and made a Part II sequel to this video. Here’s how to use it for active pressure: ua-cam.com/video/2p5N6JN07RQ/v-deo.htmlsi=0ZD3zrXFtWrdz0o9
I ran into both those problems yesterday, in fact. Both the trades and getting punished by a super. Was having too much fun testing it out.
Cammy has a similar move. I think I'll try to see if it works for her too
this is awesome, thanks
Cammy has a similar backstep counter with forward roundhouse.
I never seen that punch yet. Nobody uses it. I don’t think I saw it while trying him but that was a min ago
This is the first time I've seen this move lol