I think his biggest mistake was to try to manipulate his children according to his own theory but he didn't respect them as human beings who have their own uniqueness. When you try to control someone, it shows and even if that person doesn't realize it now, he will later and will grow to despise you and everything you've taught him. I believe the old golden rule about treating others as you want to be treated applies to raising a child. You don't want to be too harsh or too cold towards them because you wouldn't want to be treated like that as a kid or even as an adult. Raise them with love and let them live however they want with as few rules as possible. Even if they make mistakes now, they will learn on their own eventually.
on the other hand without experiments like these maybe human psychological experimentation without modern standards of ethics would have never been established
I do like that mostly but my child's school said he is obsurd, aggressive, non focused, and have behavorial issues how can I check those things in him kindly guide much worried about him. He is 5 and just joined school for the first time and spent only 3 weeks there
Watson was right that you can nurture a child into a lifepath, but its through love, hugs, laughter, encouragement and demonstration. A child learns most by observing the behaviour and results of their parents. If they see love and partnership, they are more likely to grow up in a loving partnership. If they see intelligence bonded with thoughtfulness, they will become successful but also caring. He was applying physiological conditioning when he should have been applying mental/emotional conditioning.
I disagree. Genetics play a much bigger role than we realize. You may be able to nudge a kid into any path through love, but we are all genetically predisposed to become what are genetics decided. I had great parents. Both were psychologists and raised me to the best of current beliefs. They let me figure things out on my own, hugged me and let me feel my feelings, made sure I had just enough that all my needs were met and didn’t become spoiled. And yet I struggled with depression and anxiety for my entire teen to adult life. It runs in my family and yes I have been able to overcome it somewhat but it’s genetically who I am.
@@Saurabhgupta23671 Yep, so what? His mistakes won't vanish away because of that. Actually, all of the bad things he did to his children are the things that none of us should do as parents.
I hope you cover the importance of holding/safe-touch/cuddles in raising children to feel more secure and self confident, as well as being more mentally stable in general
The fact that this information is free and in this much detail! I pay tuition and my PowerPoints have this information and isn’t even explained as well !!
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@Claim Your Free Stuff Not sure if this is sarcasm or not. Either way...he didn't raise them. Their mother raised them and she can tell you all about it. Trump had no interest in childrearing since his own father had no interest in childrearing. Most men back then didn't have anything to do with their children unless to discipline them.
He suggested don't touch or care for your children....he applied his methods to his 4 children. Things didnt turn out as planned. Well, duh. This is messed up all over.
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I know many parents who probably bought this book… But honestly, HOW someone reads “it’s great to let your child cry alone before sleeping” and “be distant to your child” and think “I found the key for perfect parenting! That’s how supposed to be!”???
The fact that this guy had some golden medal or some huge prize due to his efforts even though the kid albert died after 6 years from getting experimented on and most likely because he couldn't live with damage sustained makes this whole story so dark
my parents definitely bought his book, they must have read and reread it every freaking day. Hence, I had a horrific, cold, dark childhood. Happiness was not allowed. Emotions not allowed. There was no loving interaction whatsoever. All of the above led to a very difficult adulthood… Kids need, love, attention, healthy happy interaction with their parents. They all need to feel they belong mentally emotionally and physically to someone, somewhere! Geez, I didn’t think we needed psychological research on how to raise human beings, and nurture them in a loving manner! And humanity has progressed?
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It seems like Watson expected his hypothesis to just work out without considering any dangerous alternatives. He must have recognized his arrogance as he grew older. It should've been apparent from his Albert experiment that when the child is left alone, their negative feelings and memories intensify from reinforcement.
Watson's biggest mistake was that he tried to manipulate the behaviour of his children's but in a negative way expecting positive changes but too much of something only reults in the opposite. Too much of harshness towards children's can either turn them against you or them being emotionally weak and feel unwanted and hence resulting in mental health problems(mostly teens commit suicide when they feel they are good at nothing and their existence doesn't matters).Likewise, too much love would also sometimes destroy them and make them disobedient and undisciplined. Hence,parents should treat children's with love , patience, affection along with showing some strickness to make them feel that they cannot get away with anything wrong they do. So that they fear doing the wrong and choose the right path. And when the children's make mistakes instead of shouting at them parent's should make them sit calmly and try to understand them and also make them understand.Its like you need to understand your child in order to make him/her understand. Nothing goes the way you want by force.
His hypothesis was right. You can technically turn someone into anything you want. However, it is only possible inside a lab. In the real world, many other variables arise such as peer pressure, etc. that are completely out of your control.
Not necessarily wrong, but maybe incomplete and partial. There are many other factor influencing human behaviour, not only consequences of pervious similar behaviour
@@xr9381 he was right about behavior that can be learned but he was wrong about using his theory to manipulate and control children. Children need parental love. I think its is because of his theory that boomers seem emotionally distant.
What he lacked was balance, thanos said: perfectly balanced as all things should be, but tipping the balance every now and then is also part of balance, you play with child to balance leaving him alone, you share joy you share pain, so child learns the joy and pain are part of life and become mature, its growth of mental being corresponding to what he feels inside to what is he made to feel outside, artificial environment nurtures the child, but the environment needs to be balanced so it averages out in middle i.e balance, i.e. state of equilibrium, not agitated but not too calm, there has to be some energy running inside, life energy to live, joys of life, passion, not a robotic response to everything - depression
I assume the writers of Spouts know that Behaviorism refers solely to bottom-up ways of encoding experience within the nervous system. But these bottom-up mechanisms, while intellectually satisfying as simple, linear causal mechanisms which might more completely explain very simple organisms, fail to recognize that increasingly, through the evolution of the cortex in mammals and the adaptive flexibility necessary to essentially "program each individual de novo" as we are not born with a rich assortment of behavioral strategies like simpler organisms, there are top-down processes (cognitive behavioral) which essentially reorganize bottom-up encoding according to higher level meaning. Just like a reflex can be suppressed if we do not wish to flinch if we attend to suppressing that reflex, our higher level intentions can over-write the lower level encoding. Furthermore, the attachment system is a critical influence which essentially takes into consideration the caregiver's relative "investment" in our well-being to determine the level of influence they should have in shaping our behaviors. Thus, a consistent healthy, supportive emotional responsiveness to the child strengthens the possibility that the caregiver's strategies for effectively engaging the environment will be mimicked (ie adopted) by the child. It was the lack of healthy attachment which Watson himself suffered during his development which contributed to his failure to register the importance of these influences within his own experiments. Watson's first subject even before his own children was inhumanely tortured and abused by Watson's experiments to disastrous consequences.
This is sad. Any "scientist" who thinks they understand a chaotic complex system should be slapped hard. It's very revealing that psychologists, biologists... never talk about chaos theory and game theory.
Distancing isn’t always healthy. Yes a child should be left to figure out things on their own sometimes. But affection like hugs and kisses shows care is also extremely important. There has to be a balance in my opinion. I think the reason his children became so depressed was because they weren’t shown enough love and affection. Of course not all cases of depression or drinking is cases but that, but in these kids cases I do believe that may have been the case. But I’m not a psychologist or a parent, so don’t take my word for it. I’m just going of how my own parents raised me.
Can you imagine if little Albert got invited to a birthday party at Chuck E Cheese later on in life? What kind of damage did this "psychologist" do to tiny little Albert's tiny little psyche? It's funny that a pioneer of one of the pillars of psychology happens to be a psychopath.
*Behaviorism leads to addiction in neurodiverse people because they are taught not to think but merely to respond to outer stimuli and they get baited into developing habits by a reward scheme.*
I think the anecdotal evidence of the story is that either part of his theory was flawed, or he was flawed in the way that he applied it. He may have TRIED to apply his theory perfectly, but perhaps through raising his children he let features and stimuli slip in that altered the expected result. From the generation of children-raising that he encouraged, it is generally now seen that raising your children to his recommendation will create human with certain behavioural problems, such as not being able to reach out for help when needed. I think those that say he was wrong for trying to "control" others is only half-right. We want to be able to raise our children successfully, so wanting to learn the theory behind the process is only natural.
I'd say that his work was necessary for guy's like Skinner to come after him and develop neo-behaviourism, where the most important stuff such as Operant conditioning, the Three levels of causality, Functional Analysis and etc, were developed, Behaviourism still suffers a lot of criticism to this day due to the lack of knowledge at that time, but for that I'd recommend reading "About behaviourism" by skinner himself where he points out most judgmenets that psychologists had about classic behaviourism and where that was later studied in neo-behaviourism, unfortunately Watson's children ended up paying the price as well as himself, but I'd say that he never truly had any bad intentions, just not enough knowledge at that time to use it as Psychotherapy, nonetheless Pavlov and Watson were definitely Pioneers in their studies in what is nowadays known as Classical or Methodological Behaviourism.
well yes watson experiments show what not to do and many examples helping in psychotherapy and child psychology indirectly but in the end he and his children pay the price alongside of the baby albert. i just feel bad man
I think his hypothesis is somewhat correct, I do believe that he could condition children to be whatever he wanted them to be. However, the way he did it is the reason the experiment went wrong in my opinion. His book on how to raise children was not an opinion because it was just blatantly wrong. Multiple people have done this many parents of young musicians push their children from a young age to pursue music whether they enjoy it or not I think is random and doesn't have anything to do with genetics but rather their experiences with it. For example: Little Jimmy has been forced since was able to, to play the piano. Day in day out all his parents would let him do was play and practice piano. Now there's a choice here. If Jimmy's parents were positive in the way they made him play the piano then he would more then likely enjoy it and continue to do it. However, if his parents negatively forced him to play the piano even though he might not have wanted to and scalded him for failing, he will go on to hate the piano and not enjoy playing it even though he might become an incredibly skilled pianist he will still have loved or hated the instrument depending on how his parents and/or the people around him acted in terms of the hobby. It, I believe, is the same with acting. If a child is put into the spotlight in a film and is the main character. depending on his/her experience with the fame dictates whether they will want to act further down the line. If it is good and their experience is positive. Congratulations you've just made your son/daughter an actor maybe forever. If they have a bad experience with it then congratulations you've created someone who will become traumatized by their failure and will most likely not follow your suggestions. Conclusion: John B. Watson, was likely correct in his hypothesis but due to the way he raised his children it never worked and I believe it is completely possible to raise a child to be what you want them to be, some of the time. Sometimes for one reason or another child just may not want to be a doctor or an artist or a lawyer etc, but may prefer a different course. You then forcing them into your preferred lifeline is going to cause issues and there is no point as later on if they develop a mental illness because of your persistence and neglect it will be your fault and they will never be the doctor, lawyer or artist you want them to be.
As a person who works with children and helps them, I do agree that you can shape a child's behaviour regardless of what background they have come from. however, shaping a child's future yourself! without allowing the children to grow and choose their professions alongside no hugging and kissing your children is something that is beyond wrong
In a sense he inadvertently found a way to still “shape” people, like his kids, to behave a certain way even though the behavior had tragic consequences
My eyes where steadily gorwing during this video to the point it felt like they were ready to pop off their sockets. What in the name of things people were thinking back then?
The question is... “What in the hell are they thinking now?” Suicide rates have now risen to WWII era numbers for teens and young adults. Something that we’re doing NOW has gone very wrong.
Well, it's easy looking back with future knowledge and better research and ask what people born half a century before you were even here were thinking. What's not as easy is figuring out how human psychology works when barely anything has been extensively studied. Knowledge accumulates, but there are going to be lots of failed theories and experiments along the way... tl;dr Gotta start somewhere.
As sad as that situation is, i believe whole heartedly that at the time he genuinely believed he was doing the right thing by his kids. The fact that he rejected his own work in his old age speaks volumes to this. But honestly, it really sucks that he believed that therapy is useless because those kids could have used some.
Watson already said "A child's future is determined by their environment and upbringing". He was already so close, yet totally went the other way. What a shame.
Dr. Spock taught the exact opposite as Watson, yet he had similar outcomes with his offspring. Neither of these extremes are good for kids... they need a balance of the two to grow up healthy.
Watson was right but not fully. The environment the child grew up in shapes who they are now. But Watson didn’t know which environment shapes which kinds of behavior. The environment he put his children through was neglect which lead to them having issues later on in life. But if he had given them a balanced environment and exposed them to the certain subjects at a young age he could have made them develop an interest in things like medicine which could lead to them being a doctor. Watson just didn’t know which environment to give his children.
There was also a scientist who raised her 3 daughters and made them a world champion at chess, by teaching them chess since the childhood at age 3 or 4. That's a good upbringing, while showing love to their children depends on the upbringing of their own and there understanding.
I think this happened to his childrens because of the way he raised them. I mean who can grow up happily with parents who assume the fact they're not showing any affection while the rest of the world isn't doing the same ? And I think he developped this whole theory because, deep inside, he was still tormented by his own childhood. The dark "legacy" (but I prefer to speak about ahistory) of depression and negativity in his family musn't have helped. Since they grew up surrounded by it, his childrens must have been way more exposed and vulnerable than any other regular child. I don't think genetic has anything to do in this story tho. Peoples tend to reproduce what they see. And it's more often true in the case of family habits
I can't stand hearing "Give me a dozen children and I can make literally superman", it's so arrogant and a completely false statement. Watson just took inspiration from Pavlov and thought that humans are as easy to manipulate as dogs. I don't fault him completely, as psychological science at his time was still just an infant, but still, his "theory" has negative repercussions to this day. Goes to show that we should be more thoughtfull of what we deem to be the truth,
Children learn social and behavioral development can start before 3 years old. We should encourage and show children how to love and care for their family and friends to learn about behavior.
A happy child is a child with a compassionate and loving family. Not kissing your child is also the same as not telling them you love them. Poor children
he was right in part, which is that a human being's behaviour is due to the environment around him/her, to a great extent. However, training an infant in purpose like training an animal in circus is definitely wrong
i don't know much about this guy, but i think he was confined to some basic scientific principles and knowledge at that time, personally, i think humans' minds, or brains, are way more sophisticated than what he thought
I believe his biggest error was disdaining his children as unique human beings and instead trying to control them in accordance with his own theories. Even if the target of your control attempts is unaware of it now, he or she will eventually and will come to hate you and everything you've taught them. I think parenting is similar to the old adage, "Treat others how you want to be treated." Because you wouldn't want to be treated that way as a child or even as an adult, you shouldn't be too harsh or cold with them. Give them a loving upbringing, and allow them to follow as few restrictions as possible.
This is a very dualistic issue, between giving too much affection or not giving it at all. We need to establish a middle ground, which means that the child is not needy to seek attention, nor spoiled, so that he is arrogant, believing that he can do anything. Watson thought about it, I believe.
He argued that you can condition a child to be anything, but apparently not if their skin is too dark. See his chapter in History of Psychology in Autobiography from 1936
Despite, i agree that nurture has dominant impact on person. But,wht watson did is not form of nurture,but neglect. No wonder his children became too messed up. Remember,just try to balance negative and positive reinforcement,so they will develop better as person.
This feels like the beginning of an [every?] evil villian's origin story. He did not seem to have any empathy for other humans beings and treated them as products, not people. I'm saddened by how his children missed out on an intimate connection with their Dad and did not live a life of joy, love or hopefulness. I wonder what it would have been like had Watson has his childhood trauma addressed and his needs and feelings validated. How different his life , his wife's life, and his children's lives would have been.
This is what over thinking does. What.. Don't touch your kids? If you are not sure how to deal with humans observe animals and learn from them. They don't need school to know how to raise their children. They are doing incredibly well.
His theory was incomplete. He obviously should not have tested that neglect concept on his children. The insight around programming is accurate. But programming can occur as a result of what a parent does to his/her child and what a parent does not do to his/her child. Take a look at the research on Neuro-Darwinism - my paraphrase of it .... basically posits that early childhood environment impacts which neural connections in the brain are made. While the child is preverbal, it has an innate ability to pick up information from its environment and make neural connections. By age two the connections that have been repeatedly reinforced the most become prioritized. Those connections not made are basically pruned out.
Sir plz answer to my question, where do you find these kind of stuff or which books are best to have a knowledge that you are uploading in videos, because i am ambitious about brain development studies Plz sir
You can't give to others what you never received. To love you must have been loved or else how would you know how amazing it feels. Nonetheless how to do so. In my opinion we are a product of our enviorment whether good or bad. Sometimes bad memories can be used as fuel to better self however someone has to believe in you and see that potential in you. All it takes is 1 person to give you all the nurturing possible from the beginning and watch it grow.
Humans are animals and are no exception to biological laws. As with all organism the environment lays the foundation for the genotype to expres it's potential phenotype.
If you are denying that the genotype is the basis of behavior (ethology) you are denying evolution. Because if there is no genetic variance that effect behavior between individuals within a species population, there could be no selection pressure that led to evolution of behavior.
Can anyone who are satisfied with their parenting guide me i am totally freaked out right now as i have faced that kind of parenting myself and now i am observing same flaws in my 5 year child as well also he is not coping up in schools as i have been told by his schools kindly share some authentic source for changing myself as i have alot of things in my mind right now which i want to correct them
I believe its a both theorys cause you become and posibilty to pick up the habits you see during your up coming. I also believe we can help our children to become wise healthy human beings.
Best video ever! personality does not exist. Only physical traits and sexual orientation are "traits". All the rest is learned and is used depending on where we are and what we want to protect/achieve/defend/make peole believe/escape from, etc...I only recently realized I loved burgers because they were served all the time at my uncle's, I am organized because my dad taught me that, I trust people cause I was never bullied or raped, I teach languages cause doing other jobs didn't make ends meet and I learned to be a teacher.... I wasn't BORN with any of that.
well its proven now that opposite is best. mothers know best. love and affection makes kids thrive. ignoring kids make them sick mentally and physically. men don't have maternal instinct. literally biology telling mothers what their children need. no you don't ignore your child when they're crying-that's common sense. its sad how men tell mothers to disassociate from their children and mothers doubt themselves. mothers and fathers need to be stronger. support your child.
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that became dark real quick
That's the best part
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@OTTO 😁😂🤣 it is. Y do people put these types of pictures as profile
especially with the happy background song this vid is fkn distrubing
Yess
I think his biggest mistake was to try to manipulate his children according to his own theory but he didn't respect them as human beings who have their own uniqueness. When you try to control someone, it shows and even if that person doesn't realize it now, he will later and will grow to despise you and everything you've taught him. I believe the old golden rule about treating others as you want to be treated applies to raising a child. You don't want to be too harsh or too cold towards them because you wouldn't want to be treated like that as a kid or even as an adult. Raise them with love and let them live however they want with as few rules as possible. Even if they make mistakes now, they will learn on their own eventually.
Just Random,
OMFG your writing S.A or what?
I think you got a lot going on in your head. No offence.
Yes, the very idea of controlling others is very problematic. Thanks, Just Random, for the intelligent comment!
@Lord Farquaad well said
@@SammyJoeLouis Sounds like bad parenting, lmfaoo
on the other hand without experiments like these maybe human psychological experimentation without modern standards of ethics would have never been established
It seems my parents bought his book
That's dark but funny, are you okay? XD
Same
Omg, guyz she is not replying!!!
😂😂
One therapy session at a time...
You have to show affection to your kids and give hugs so they'll grow
emotionally mature.
Exactly.
....yes all parents shud hug & kiss their kids regardless of their age..
Children need support don't need be to much or less ...
I do like that mostly but my child's school said he is obsurd, aggressive, non focused, and have behavorial issues how can I check those things in him kindly guide much worried about him. He is 5 and just joined school for the first time and spent only 3 weeks there
Watson was right that you can nurture a child into a lifepath, but its through love, hugs, laughter, encouragement and demonstration. A child learns most by observing the behaviour and results of their parents. If they see love and partnership, they are more likely to grow up in a loving partnership. If they see intelligence bonded with thoughtfulness, they will become successful but also caring. He was applying physiological conditioning when he should have been applying mental/emotional conditioning.
Thanks for sharing your thoughts
I disagree.
Genetics play a much bigger role than we realize. You may be able to nudge a kid into any path through love, but we are all genetically predisposed to become what are genetics decided.
I had great parents. Both were psychologists and raised me to the best of current beliefs. They let me figure things out on my own, hugged me and let me feel my feelings, made sure I had just enough that all my needs were met and didn’t become spoiled. And yet I struggled with depression and anxiety for my entire teen to adult life. It runs in my family and yes I have been able to overcome it somewhat but it’s genetically who I am.
His failure is one of the reason on why you have this knowledge
@@Saurabhgupta23671 Yep, so what? His mistakes won't vanish away because of that. Actually, all of the bad things he did to his children are the things that none of us should do as parents.
I hope you cover the importance of holding/safe-touch/cuddles in raising children to feel more secure and self confident, as well as being more mentally stable in general
The fact that this information is free and in this much detail! I pay tuition and my PowerPoints have this information and isn’t even explained as well !!
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@@sprouts I think she is taking for free and won't pay nothing
A man who can't raise his family can't tell world what to do
no one himself,
Amen brother🗽
Actually no one can tell the world what to do, but fundamented advice is always welcome
True
But the government can!
@Claim Your Free Stuff Not sure if this is sarcasm or not. Either way...he didn't raise them. Their mother raised them and she can tell you all about it. Trump had no interest in childrearing since his own father had no interest in childrearing. Most men back then didn't have anything to do with their children unless to discipline them.
Just watch animals, they Play and nurture their offsprings.
Yeah, human intelligence is a double edged sword and sabotaging ourselves in many ways unknowingly.
Exactly, you see how animals get over their babies in the wild.
Unfortunately the only positive thing that came out of his life was burning his research papers.
Exactly
Parental love is very much necessary for emotional growth of any child 👶🏿
Being a teacher, I can see that children are happier when motivated 😃📚✍🏼
He suggested don't touch or care for your children....he applied his methods to his 4 children. Things didnt turn out as planned.
Well, duh. This is messed up all over.
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I know many parents who probably bought this book… But honestly, HOW someone reads “it’s great to let your child cry alone before sleeping” and “be distant to your child” and think “I found the key for perfect parenting! That’s how supposed to be!”???
The fact that this guy had some golden medal or some huge prize due to his efforts even though the kid albert died after 6 years from getting experimented on and most likely because he couldn't live with damage sustained makes this whole story so dark
my parents definitely bought his book, they must have read and reread it every freaking day. Hence, I had a horrific, cold, dark childhood. Happiness was not allowed. Emotions not allowed. There was no loving interaction whatsoever. All of the above led to a very difficult adulthood… Kids need, love, attention, healthy happy interaction with their parents. They all need to feel they belong mentally emotionally and physically to someone, somewhere! Geez, I didn’t think we needed psychological research on how to raise human beings, and nurture them in a loving manner! And humanity has progressed?
OMG I knew as soon as it started talking about the book he wrote that things could not have went well for his children. I also bet his wife HATED him!
His second wife was the grad student who helped him with the little Albert experiment :III
Wow, what a great video. So much detail!
I've been trying to study psychology but haven't found many good sources...until now!
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It seems like Watson expected his hypothesis to just work out without considering any dangerous alternatives. He must have recognized his arrogance as he grew older. It should've been apparent from his Albert experiment that when the child is left alone, their negative feelings and memories intensify from reinforcement.
Watson's biggest mistake was that he tried to manipulate the behaviour of his children's but in a negative way expecting positive changes but too much of something only reults in the opposite. Too much of harshness towards children's can either turn them against you or them being emotionally weak and feel unwanted and hence resulting in mental health problems(mostly teens commit suicide when they feel they are good at nothing and their existence doesn't matters).Likewise, too much love would also sometimes destroy them and make them disobedient and undisciplined. Hence,parents should treat children's with love , patience, affection along with showing some strickness to make them feel that they cannot get away with anything wrong they do. So that they fear doing the wrong and choose the right path. And when the children's make mistakes instead of shouting at them parent's should make them sit calmly and try to understand them and also make them understand.Its like you need to understand your child in order to make him/her understand. Nothing goes the way you want by force.
Thanks
His hypothesis was right. You can technically turn someone into anything you want. However, it is only possible inside a lab. In the real world, many other variables arise such as peer pressure, etc. that are completely out of your control.
It can be done, however, once the person becomes aware that they're being manipulated, it can have negative consequences.
Oh
sadly we learned from his own children that his theory is wrong :(
You summarised it so well.
Not necessarily wrong, but maybe incomplete and partial. There are many other factor influencing human behaviour, not only consequences of pervious similar behaviour
I also believe this is interpreted onesidedly
@@xr9381 he was right about behavior that can be learned but he was wrong about using his theory to manipulate and control children. Children need parental love. I think its is because of his theory that boomers seem emotionally distant.
I can't believe I am still learning about this shit in my degree.
I think the lesson is you should trust your natural intuition more than your reasoning.
What he lacked was balance, thanos said: perfectly balanced as all things should be, but tipping the balance every now and then is also part of balance, you play with child to balance leaving him alone, you share joy you share pain, so child learns the joy and pain are part of life and become mature, its growth of mental being corresponding to what he feels inside to what is he made to feel outside, artificial environment nurtures the child, but the environment needs to be balanced so it averages out in middle i.e balance, i.e. state of equilibrium, not agitated but not too calm, there has to be some energy running inside, life energy to live, joys of life, passion, not a robotic response to everything - depression
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oh gosh I havent learnt about that twist in psychology class:D
I assume the writers of Spouts know that Behaviorism refers solely to bottom-up ways of encoding experience within the nervous system. But these bottom-up mechanisms, while intellectually satisfying as simple, linear causal mechanisms which might more completely explain very simple organisms, fail to recognize that increasingly, through the evolution of the cortex in mammals and the adaptive flexibility necessary to essentially "program each individual de novo" as we are not born with a rich assortment of behavioral strategies like simpler organisms, there are top-down processes (cognitive behavioral) which essentially reorganize bottom-up encoding according to higher level meaning. Just like a reflex can be suppressed if we do not wish to flinch if we attend to suppressing that reflex, our higher level intentions can over-write the lower level encoding. Furthermore, the attachment system is a critical influence which essentially takes into consideration the caregiver's relative "investment" in our well-being to determine the level of influence they should have in shaping our behaviors. Thus, a consistent healthy, supportive emotional responsiveness to the child strengthens the possibility that the caregiver's strategies for effectively engaging the environment will be mimicked (ie adopted) by the child. It was the lack of healthy attachment which Watson himself suffered during his development which contributed to his failure to register the importance of these influences within his own experiments. Watson's first subject even before his own children was inhumanely tortured and abused by Watson's experiments to disastrous consequences.
This is sad. Any "scientist" who thinks they understand a chaotic complex system should be slapped hard.
It's very revealing that psychologists, biologists... never talk about chaos theory and game theory.
Did you just say Game Theory?
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Distancing isn’t always healthy. Yes a child should be left to figure out things on their own sometimes. But affection like hugs and kisses shows care is also extremely important. There has to be a balance in my opinion. I think the reason his children became so depressed was because they weren’t shown enough love and affection. Of course not all cases of depression or drinking is cases but that, but in these kids cases I do believe that may have been the case. But I’m not a psychologist or a parent, so don’t take my word for it. I’m just going of how my own parents raised me.
Can you imagine if little Albert got invited to a birthday party at Chuck E Cheese later on in life? What kind of damage did this "psychologist" do to tiny little Albert's tiny little psyche? It's funny that a pioneer of one of the pillars of psychology happens to be a psychopath.
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Sounds like at the end of Watsons life, he experienced despair, like in Eriksons theory of psychosocial development
The best part of this is learning what not to do and not to experiment with other people's lives, including your own children. His children suffered.
I'm surprised by how lightly he explained the story of his kids along with a light music
*Behaviorism leads to addiction in neurodiverse people because they are taught not to think but merely to respond to outer stimuli and they get baited into developing habits by a reward scheme.*
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I think the anecdotal evidence of the story is that either part of his theory was flawed, or he was flawed in the way that he applied it. He may have TRIED to apply his theory perfectly, but perhaps through raising his children he let features and stimuli slip in that altered the expected result. From the generation of children-raising that he encouraged, it is generally now seen that raising your children to his recommendation will create human with certain behavioural problems, such as not being able to reach out for help when needed. I think those that say he was wrong for trying to "control" others is only half-right. We want to be able to raise our children successfully, so wanting to learn the theory behind the process is only natural.
I'd say that his work was necessary for guy's like Skinner to come after him and develop neo-behaviourism, where the most important stuff such as Operant conditioning, the Three levels of causality, Functional Analysis and etc, were developed, Behaviourism still suffers a lot of criticism to this day due to the lack of knowledge at that time, but for that I'd recommend reading "About behaviourism" by skinner himself where he points out most judgmenets that psychologists had about classic behaviourism and where that was later studied in neo-behaviourism, unfortunately Watson's children ended up paying the price as well as himself, but I'd say that he never truly had any bad intentions, just not enough knowledge at that time to use it as Psychotherapy, nonetheless Pavlov and Watson were definitely Pioneers in their studies in what is nowadays known as Classical or Methodological Behaviourism.
well yes watson experiments show what not to do and many examples helping in psychotherapy and child psychology indirectly but in the end he and his children pay the price alongside of the baby albert. i just feel bad man
I think his hypothesis is somewhat correct, I do believe that he could condition children to be whatever he wanted them to be. However, the way he did it is the reason the experiment went wrong in my opinion. His book on how to raise children was not an opinion because it was just blatantly wrong. Multiple people have done this many parents of young musicians push their children from a young age to pursue music whether they enjoy it or not I think is random and doesn't have anything to do with genetics but rather their experiences with it. For example:
Little Jimmy has been forced since was able to, to play the piano. Day in day out all his parents would let him do was play and practice piano. Now there's a choice here. If Jimmy's parents were positive in the way they made him play the piano then he would more then likely enjoy it and continue to do it. However, if his parents negatively forced him to play the piano even though he might not have wanted to and scalded him for failing, he will go on to hate the piano and not enjoy playing it even though he might become an incredibly skilled pianist he will still have loved or hated the instrument depending on how his parents and/or the people around him acted in terms of the hobby.
It, I believe, is the same with acting. If a child is put into the spotlight in a film and is the main character. depending on his/her experience with the fame dictates whether they will want to act further down the line. If it is good and their experience is positive. Congratulations you've just made your son/daughter an actor maybe forever. If they have a bad experience with it then congratulations you've created someone who will become traumatized by their failure and will most likely not follow your suggestions.
Conclusion: John B. Watson, was likely correct in his hypothesis but due to the way he raised his children it never worked and I believe it is completely possible to raise a child to be what you want them to be, some of the time. Sometimes for one reason or another child just may not want to be a doctor or an artist or a lawyer etc, but may prefer a different course. You then forcing them into your preferred lifeline is going to cause issues and there is no point as later on if they develop a mental illness because of your persistence and neglect it will be your fault and they will never be the doctor, lawyer or artist you want them to be.
Hello YamiKaze, thank you for the insightful comment :) Its great to see that our community keeps the discussion going!
Albert was scared of the noise struck everytime he went near the rat and not the rat..
As a person who works with children and helps them, I do agree that you can shape a child's behaviour regardless of what background they have come from. however, shaping a child's future yourself! without allowing the children to grow and choose their professions alongside no hugging and kissing your children is something that is beyond wrong
Narrator: "Watson's children lived miserables lives, falling into addictions and dying early."
Background music: stroll in the park
In a sense he inadvertently found a way to still “shape” people, like his kids, to behave a certain way even though the behavior had tragic consequences
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My eyes where steadily gorwing during this video to the point it felt like they were ready to pop off their sockets. What in the name of things people were thinking back then?
You are funny! Do you write a lot ? And yes, they were nuts back then.
The question is... “What in the hell are they thinking now?” Suicide rates have now risen to WWII era numbers for teens and young adults. Something that we’re doing NOW has gone very wrong.
Well, it's easy looking back with future knowledge and better research and ask what people born half a century before you were even here were thinking.
What's not as easy is figuring out how human psychology works when barely anything has been extensively studied. Knowledge accumulates, but there are going to be lots of failed theories and experiments along the way...
tl;dr Gotta start somewhere.
As sad as that situation is, i believe whole heartedly that at the time he genuinely believed he was doing the right thing by his kids. The fact that he rejected his own work in his old age speaks volumes to this. But honestly, it really sucks that he believed that therapy is useless because those kids could have used some.
What a monster. He treated all his readers as his test subjects. He damaged all those families that believed his nonsense.
Watson already said "A child's future is determined by their environment and upbringing". He was already so close, yet totally went the other way. What a shame.
Dr. Spock taught the exact opposite as Watson, yet he had similar outcomes with his offspring. Neither of these extremes are good for kids... they need a balance of the two to grow up healthy.
Watson was right but not fully. The environment the child grew up in shapes who they are now. But Watson didn’t know which environment shapes which kinds of behavior. The environment he put his children through was neglect which lead to them having issues later on in life. But if he had given them a balanced environment and exposed them to the certain subjects at a young age he could have made them develop an interest in things like medicine which could lead to them being a doctor. Watson just didn’t know which environment to give his children.
Hi StaryVerse, thanks for the insightful comment! :)
There was also a scientist who raised her 3 daughters and made them a world champion at chess, by teaching them chess since the childhood at age 3 or 4. That's a good upbringing, while showing love to their children depends on the upbringing of their own and there understanding.
I think this happened to his childrens because of the way he raised them. I mean who can grow up happily with parents who assume the fact they're not showing any affection while the rest of the world isn't doing the same ?
And I think he developped this whole theory because, deep inside, he was still tormented by his own childhood. The dark "legacy" (but I prefer to speak about ahistory) of depression and negativity in his family musn't have helped. Since they grew up surrounded by it, his childrens must have been way more exposed and vulnerable than any other regular child.
I don't think genetic has anything to do in this story tho. Peoples tend to reproduce what they see. And it's more often true in the case of family habits
Thank you online assignment for linking the wrong video and forcing me to spend 30 minutes searching for this video.
I can't stand hearing "Give me a dozen children and I can make literally superman", it's so arrogant and a completely false statement. Watson just took inspiration from Pavlov and thought that humans are as easy to manipulate as dogs. I don't fault him completely, as psychological science at his time was still just an infant, but still, his "theory" has negative repercussions to this day. Goes to show that we should be more thoughtfull of what we deem to be the truth,
Children learn social and behavioral development can start before 3 years old. We should encourage and show children how to love and care for their family and friends to learn about behavior.
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A happy child is a child with a compassionate and loving family. Not kissing your child is also the same as not telling them you love them. Poor children
he was right in part, which is that a human being's behaviour is due to the environment around him/her, to a great extent. However, training an infant in purpose like training an animal in circus is definitely wrong
i don't know much about this guy, but i think he was confined to some basic scientific principles and knowledge at that time, personally, i think humans' minds, or brains, are way more sophisticated than what he thought
this video was explained so well and was so interesting to watch!
My teacher showed this to me ❤️❤️ very good work
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Great video
Love the voice of the man
The important role of parents affect a lot their children. The children inherit a lot of characters of their parents.
That experiment with Baby Albert. He has damaged a child forever... 😲😨
Life is a Chaos
Don't try to control it
Just flow with it
Be in the present moment by giving it full attention
I believe his biggest error was disdaining his children as unique human beings and instead trying to control them in accordance with his own theories. Even if the target of your control attempts is unaware of it now, he or she will eventually and will come to hate you and everything you've taught them. I think parenting is similar to the old adage, "Treat others how you want to be treated." Because you wouldn't want to be treated that way as a child or even as an adult, you shouldn't be too harsh or cold with them. Give them a loving upbringing, and allow them to follow as few restrictions as possible.
This is a very dualistic issue, between giving too much affection or not giving it at all. We need to establish a middle ground, which means that the child is not needy to seek attention, nor spoiled, so that he is arrogant, believing that he can do anything. Watson thought about it, I believe.
He argued that you can condition a child to be anything, but apparently not if their skin is too dark. See his chapter in History of Psychology in Autobiography from 1936
tf ..didn't know that..
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Despite, i agree that nurture has dominant impact on person. But,wht watson did is not form of nurture,but neglect. No wonder his children became too messed up. Remember,just try to balance negative and positive reinforcement,so they will develop better as person.
This feels like the beginning of an [every?] evil villian's origin story. He did not seem to have any empathy for other humans beings and treated them as products, not people. I'm saddened by how his children missed out on an intimate connection with their Dad and did not live a life of joy, love or hopefulness. I wonder what it would have been like had Watson has his childhood trauma addressed and his needs and feelings validated. How different his life , his wife's life, and his children's lives would have been.
This is what over thinking does. What.. Don't touch your kids?
If you are not sure how to deal with humans observe animals and learn from them. They don't need school to know how to raise their children. They are doing incredibly well.
The accurate title should be Watson's dark theory.
Isn't it explains Newton's third law ???
For every action there is equal and opposite reaction !
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His theory was incomplete. He obviously should not have tested that neglect concept on his children. The insight around programming is accurate. But programming can occur as a result of what a parent does to his/her child and what a parent does not do to his/her child. Take a look at the research on Neuro-Darwinism - my paraphrase of it .... basically posits that early childhood environment impacts which neural connections in the brain are made. While the child is preverbal, it has an innate ability to pick up information from its environment and make neural connections. By age two the connections that have been repeatedly reinforced the most become prioritized. Those connections not made are basically pruned out.
It can be genetic as well as up bringing. If understood properly , up bringing can make a lot of difference.
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You can't give to others what you never received. To love you must have been loved or else how would you know how amazing it feels. Nonetheless how to do so. In my opinion we are a product of our enviorment whether good or bad. Sometimes bad memories can be used as fuel to better self however someone has to believe in you and see that potential in you. All it takes is 1 person to give you all the nurturing possible from the beginning and watch it grow.
; ) Spoil some one rotten today.
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Unfortunately, Watson's theory has made a comeback with this generation.
Thank you sir
What is the theory before behaviourism? The one that he denied with this experiment and made him move on to behaviourism!! Important
great video. thanks.
Humans are animals and are no exception to biological laws. As with all organism the environment lays the foundation for the genotype to expres it's potential phenotype.
If you are denying that the genotype is the basis of behavior (ethology) you are denying evolution. Because if there is no genetic variance that effect behavior between individuals within a species population, there could be no selection pressure that led to evolution of behavior.
Every child has a natural longing to express itself. No human intervention is required to test the theory to the extreme.
Can anyone who are satisfied with their parenting guide me i am totally freaked out right now as i have faced that kind of parenting myself and now i am observing same flaws in my 5 year child as well also he is not coping up in schools as i have been told by his schools kindly share some authentic source for changing myself as i have alot of things in my mind right now which i want to correct them
I'm starting to believe he had 4 children to use them experimental
I believe its a both theorys cause you become and posibilty to pick up the habits you see during your up coming. I also believe we can help our children to become wise healthy human beings.
Best video ever! personality does not exist. Only physical traits and sexual orientation are "traits". All the rest is learned and is used depending on where we are and what we want to protect/achieve/defend/make peole believe/escape from, etc...I only recently realized I loved burgers because they were served all the time at my uncle's, I am organized because my dad taught me that, I trust people cause I was never bullied or raped, I teach languages cause doing other jobs didn't make ends meet and I learned to be a teacher.... I wasn't BORN with any of that.
Sir... I like your answer sir...
Sir please define personality sir... So that I can relate it with your answer sir
Does personality means the traits with which we are born with....
If so, Sir... I have learned that aggression, shyness are also being inherited .
What do you think sir... Are they learned or inherited
Somehow I thought that John Watson is the Watson from sherlock Holmes story
It appears that i wasnt the only one who thought that
How many kids had ruined childhoods because of this guy dang
well its proven now that opposite is best. mothers know best. love and affection makes kids thrive. ignoring kids make them sick mentally and physically. men don't have maternal instinct. literally biology telling mothers what their children need. no you don't ignore your child when they're crying-that's common sense. its sad how men tell mothers to disassociate from their children and mothers doubt themselves.
mothers and fathers need to be stronger. support your child.
To be honest, I’m not interested in psychiatry, but I LOVE your stylised rats! You perfectly reflected their cuteness! Enormous respect for fellow artists!
bro it became dark psychology real quick 😭