To all lovers of classical music! This video is not about the best interpretation of J. S. Bach or about classical music! It is about the technical background of how notes or compositions were stored on a cassette at that time and can be loaded into the Roland MC-202. The sound settings of the synthesizers and the notes of Bach are examples from the Roland company!
This is probably also a lot closer to what Roland had in mind when designing these instruments, as opposed to blowing up the world with whole new genres of dance music in the 80s.
In the 1980s my dad BUILT from scratch a 8 bit computer that used magnetic tapes to read the parameters and play classical music. He took a couple years to build it. Now we have those gadgets haha
I bought a new MC-202 in the eighties. Waaay before MIDI that was. My friend had an MC-101. With a rented TR-808 we recorded many tunes. Haven’t heard this Bach tune for over 35 years… Thanks for this video! 😊
I am almost certain Bach would have used an ATARI ST and a Multimode Expander with an orchestral expansion. Just imagine what kind of music he would have done. And just dream about what he would have made with a Hip Hop card. Great job.
This sounds great, very Giorgio Moroder / Wendy Carlos. I see also a lot of classical music snobs down there in the comments. Go listen to your well tempered clavier if you can’t appreciate this.
Thank you Doctor Nemmo! Haha... yes, you're right. I only did what ROLAND suggested to its customers as an idea (programming, instruments & sound settings). So I will pass on the negative comments to ROLAND. I hope they do it better next time. 😉
Had each of these units back in the day.. and recorded a lot of Bach and other classical works with them... all hooked up to an M-144 Portastudio.. 1 track for tape sync, and 3 tracks of 2-voices... Had dreams of being a simplified Isao Tomita... Didn't know myself when I bought my JX-3P and DX7... and ran them from an MSQ-100... all synced via the M-144... ... but as MIDI went berserk, so I retired the MC-202 and SH-101, etc... Still use my (heavily modified) DX7 as my controller keyboard though...
@@MS-Patriot2 Exactly what I'm intending to do when I retire in a few years :) Currently getting some more 'intermediate' theory into me, so I can get back to playing 'properly'... What wuth DAWs, VSTs, etc, it's so much easier to produce great music at home nowadays... but doing the production side of things well is a whole new skill set to work on...
I was just thinking, it's friday, time for Ducktronic & Audiopils, & voila here you are. That reminds me of the Commodore 64, if you missed one bleep the whole project didn't work, technology came long way since then. 👍
This data cassette’s contents is available as a wav. file & how to load from a PC, on Sunshine Jones web page under non-fiction & other data cassette releases. Great video ducktronic.
So yesterday I had this classical song in my mind which i wanted to learn on piano but didn't know the title....now i'm scrolling around UA-cam and get this video recommend with exactly the song I had in mind. What a lovely coincident♥️
With the added drum machine, it reminds me a lot of Jacques Loussier's "Switched on Bach" rendition in the early 60s. Fun fact the S.O Bach vol.4 LP with this piece was my first ever stereo LP I got as a birthday present.. 8 years before I could afford my first stereo turntable and amplifier :-) Thanks for helping me revive those long time gone memories!
Also this version of Beethoven's Moonlight Sonata he did live ua-cam.com/video/ep4-fFfEahE/v-deo.html It's fantastic (I think he's using the 101 & 303, but not it's not the internal sequencer on the 101)
danke für diese Studie , interessant und lehrreich ! es war mir unbekannt , das es eine "zweite Stimme" der Aufnahme auf der Kassette gibt. ist das bei den anderen Daten ebenso ? war auf der original Kassette hierbei ein Unterschied zwischen der A und B Seite ?
Hallo! Ich bin mir nicht mehr sicher ob alle Tracks auf einer Seite oder auf beiden Seiten verteilt waren. Und ja, alle fünf Demotracks haben eine zweite Stimme für einen zusätzlichen Syntheiszer dabei. 👍
This is not MIDI. The MC-202 can store and read tracks via a special data format. I demonstrate how to play a track from the original Roland data cassette into the MC-202. 👍
The MC-202 does not understand MIDI. The audio cassette contains digital data (1&0) in a special data format that the MC-202 understands. At that time, this method was often used to save presets of synthesizers or to load them into a device. 👍
Amazing collection of french Vintages analogs synth & drums machine ua-cam.com/video/528DtHGIbgw/v-deo.html&ab_channel=LeonardLORM ARP2600-POLYSIX-FULL ROLAND TR SERIE-PRO one-SH101-MC202-TB303-RE201 and more...
Cool, das Tool schaue ich mir mal an. Falls Du zufällig die andere Data Cassette (oder Audiofile) mit Star Wars, Popcorn usw. auftreiben kannst wäre ich Dir sehr dankbar. 🙂
Copyright always has an expiry date. In most countries, a piece of music, like any other copyrighted work, becomes non-possessory and available for use by anyone, including commercially, 70 years after the death of the composer/lyricist. From that moment on, the work automatically belongs to the "public domain". However, this removal of protection varies from country to country, and the clarifications and legal interpretations are correspondingly incredibly complex. If there are copyright problems, UA-cam will tell me on its own or even block the video.
I ALWAYS thought, that on the MC-505, the patch sounds are something like four layers of PCM data, which should be relatively easy to create on computer software. So I always wanted to try to create some PCM files from my own short samples, phrases that I’ve recorded, and then load them over the MIDI cable… I haven’t ever seen any user friendly way to enable the PCM upload into the MC-505. I need to change out the busted LCD screen and probably swap it’s battery for a new one as well, as I have not done this in over twenty years of owning the 505. Is there a way to swap out the batteries on synths without loosing everything when you do it? I guess I’ll back up everything first just to be safe, and I don’t think I feel comfortable swapping the battery out while it’s turned on, so probably it’ll need to be over a bulk dump and restore. THANKS FOR SHARING!!
Really cool- it’s interesting to see the mc 202 shine like that over the sh 101. It almost has a more “pure” tone. Still really similar, but- it’s almost like the 202 is more c64 ish than the 101.
I have a load of old files and patches for various old synths on cassette. I knew my luck wouldn't last for them so I bunged them all on Minidisc and they've never failed me yet. Can't fault that.
It runs a little fast :O Man, i hope Behringer recreates the MC-202 too and also adds the audio interface for "hardbit-rock" dumps and imports. Would be great so you don't have to rely on USB input only.
There was another data cassette i am searching for: File Number 201 - Star Wars Cantina Band File Number 202 - Popcorn File Number 203 - Modern Zodiac Someone out there?
I have also been looking for this for a very long time. I hope it is still somewhere, then I can make a video about it again. Please let me know if you ever have the files. 👍
A bit better at 75% speed but this is better patch than 90% of the synth covers out there. They always use reverb and shit, doesn’t sound good. This is way better nice work.
Unfortunately, I don't know that for sure myself and could hardly find any information about it. There is a data cassette with classical music (as in the video) and supposedly one with other songs (Star Wars, Popcorn, etc.). I don't know if they were available for purchase at the time or if they came with the MC-202. The link in the video description will take you to some information.
To all lovers of classical music!
This video is not about the best interpretation of J. S. Bach or about classical music!
It is about the technical background of how notes or compositions were stored on a cassette at that time and can be loaded into the Roland MC-202. The sound settings of the synthesizers and the notes of Bach are examples from the Roland company!
Glad to hear that Bach's old 606-patterns comes into use after all these years 😎
Haha... Yes, Bach loved the 606 and used it very often. 😜
Perfect!
he didn't have a 606 but he got the samples from emu
And Bach said let there bass/highhat/ snare!
I am willfully going to believe from here on out that Bach owned Roland gear
This is probably also a lot closer to what Roland had in mind when designing these instruments, as opposed to blowing up the world with whole new genres of dance music in the 80s.
Just look at all those hieroglyphics on the TR606. Heavy stuff.
In the 1980s my dad BUILT from scratch a 8 bit computer that used magnetic tapes to read the parameters and play classical music. He took a couple years to build it. Now we have those gadgets haha
Amazing collection of Vintages analogs synth & drums machine
ua-cam.com/video/528DtHGIbgw/v-deo.html&ab_channel=LeonardLORM
ARP2600-POLYSIX-FULL ROLAND TR SERIE-PRO one-SH101-MC202-TB303-RE201 and more...
I bought a new MC-202 in the eighties. Waaay before MIDI that was. My friend had an MC-101. With a rented TR-808 we recorded many tunes.
Haven’t heard this Bach tune for over 35 years… Thanks for this video! 😊
Very nice! Would love to hear your recordings from back then. 🙂
@@DuckTronic Me too! 😂Right after every radio broadcast the tapes were erased to save costs...
Rented? Hahhhhaaa
@@DuckTronic hey man. Missing your stuff. Happy Holidays!!!
Amazing collection of Vintages analogs synth & drums machine
ua-cam.com/video/528DtHGIbgw/v-deo.html&ab_channel=LeonardLORM
ARP2600-POLYSIX-FULL ROLAND TR SERIE-PRO one-SH101-MC202-TB303-RE201 and more...
A logical progression from acid techno tutorials to Bach lmao
This song needs some acid in it lol
Add some Mozart and make it a Mach piece...
Alphabetical order!
I am almost certain Bach would have used an ATARI ST and a Multimode Expander with an orchestral expansion. Just imagine what kind of music he would have done. And just dream about what he would have made with a Hip Hop card. Great job.
Haha.. Thanks Patrik! 👍
Super interessantes & kreatives Video! Danke & Daumen hoch!🎹🎼🎛
Awesome to see this classic Sony cassette deck again!
This sounds great, very Giorgio Moroder / Wendy Carlos.
I see also a lot of classical music snobs down there in the comments. Go listen to your well tempered clavier if you can’t appreciate this.
Thank you Doctor Nemmo! Haha... yes, you're right. I only did what ROLAND suggested to its customers as an idea (programming, instruments & sound settings).
So I will pass on the negative comments to ROLAND. I hope they do it better next time. 😉
To me it sounds almost like Klaus Wunderlich. His Beathoven even added electronic drums over a classical composition.
Nice! Switched on Bach part 2! 606 is a great addition! :)
As a huge Bach and 202 fan this pushes all the right buttons.
Had each of these units back in the day.. and recorded a lot of Bach and other classical works with them... all hooked up to an M-144 Portastudio.. 1 track for tape sync, and 3 tracks of 2-voices... Had dreams of being a simplified Isao Tomita... Didn't know myself when I bought my JX-3P and DX7... and ran them from an MSQ-100... all synced via the M-144... ... but as MIDI went berserk, so I retired the MC-202 and SH-101, etc... Still use my (heavily modified) DX7 as my controller keyboard though...
Great! 👍
Nice, you managed to achieve what I only dreamt of in the 80s, still got the old gear, all works, and now I’m retired I might just try again.
@@MS-Patriot2 Exactly what I'm intending to do when I retire in a few years :) Currently getting some more 'intermediate' theory into me, so I can get back to playing 'properly'... What wuth DAWs, VSTs, etc, it's so much easier to produce great music at home nowadays... but doing the production side of things well is a whole new skill set to work on...
@@ozboomer_au only just considering firing up Reaper again! Slow adopter here 😎
Roland Tecnology is amazing
Now our lives are complete after this. Thank you.
Subscribed.
Im speachless. Wow! Way to cross boundaries! Love it!
Amazing collection of Vintages analogs synth & drums machine
ua-cam.com/video/528DtHGIbgw/v-deo.html&ab_channel=LeonardLORM
ARP2600-POLYSIX-FULL ROLAND TR SERIE-PRO one-SH101-MC202-TB303-RE201 and more...
I was just thinking, it's friday, time for Ducktronic & Audiopils, & voila here you are.
That reminds me of the Commodore 64, if you missed one bleep the whole project didn't work, technology came long way since then. 👍
Yes, just came here from the AudioPilz video. :)
Yes, it was a bit more complicated back then than nowadays. 🙂
@@DuckTronic But especially more time consuming. 😊
Holy moly this is amazing
This data cassette’s contents is available as a wav. file & how to load from a PC, on Sunshine Jones web page under non-fiction & other data cassette releases. Great video ducktronic.
Thank you! Yes, I have the link to the Sunshine Jones website in the video description, for those who don't have the cassette.
I love you Guy! Oh so interesting! Thx
The texture on that SH-101, wow!
Back in 1700s i used to pop my head with these in the club
Wow, that sounds cool!
So cool...I remember having to do that type of data transfer for my Korg monotribe to get it to update. Haha this was beautiful btw
Nice job, and thanks for showing the old school way!
So yesterday I had this classical song in my mind which i wanted to learn on piano but didn't know the title....now i'm scrolling around UA-cam and get this video recommend with exactly the song I had in mind. What a lovely coincident♥️
ua-cam.com/video/3VQMMUpEGcI/v-deo.html
With the added drum machine, it reminds me a lot of Jacques Loussier's "Switched on Bach" rendition in the early 60s. Fun fact the S.O Bach vol.4 LP with this piece was my first ever stereo LP I got as a birthday present.. 8 years before I could afford my first stereo turntable and amplifier :-) Thanks for helping me revive those long time gone memories!
Switched on Bach was made by Wendy Carlos, not Jacques Loussier.
Hell yea
Amazing collection of Vintages analogs synth & drums machine
ua-cam.com/video/528DtHGIbgw/v-deo.html&ab_channel=LeonardLORM
ARP2600-POLYSIX-FULL ROLAND TR SERIE-PRO one-SH101-MC202-TB303-RE201 and more...
Amazing
Just amazing!
Well, I enjoyed that. Thank you for the video.
Beautiful!
jsb - would be proud of you 👍 keep rocking, cheers 🤙
Sheesh that hits HARD and sounds awesome!
Wow ! Du hast es drauf ....
Danke Carsten! Und schön, dass Du jede Woche reinschaust! 🙂
A Alesis SR16 Drum machine também utiliza esse mesmo tipo de transferência de dados. Via tape in/out.
Yes, that may be. Back then, many devices used data cassettes to store presets or programming.
I love it !!!! Great work !!!
Amazing collection of Vintages analogs synth & drums machine
ua-cam.com/video/528DtHGIbgw/v-deo.html&ab_channel=LeonardLORM
ARP2600-POLYSIX-FULL ROLAND TR SERIE-PRO one-SH101-MC202-TB303-RE201 and more...
The heart of my start✌️
How about a version with some knob/slider tweaking for squelches, filter sweeps etc?
+1
Loving it :)
There’s another great version from ceephax.
Where can I find it?
ua-cam.com/video/M2kcOCsALnw/v-deo.html
Also this version of Beethoven's Moonlight Sonata he did live ua-cam.com/video/ep4-fFfEahE/v-deo.html
It's fantastic (I think he's using the 101 & 303, but not it's not the internal sequencer on the 101)
Union Jack - Fromage Frais (1995) ua-cam.com/video/qyrISLyaR0g/v-deo.html
that's a cool cassette deck
Roland Bach 👍🏼😇
Ok bro really nice, but we want more illiterate acid. Thanks.
I was waiting for that comment... 😅 Next week there will be acid again. 👍
danke für diese Studie , interessant und lehrreich ! es war mir unbekannt , das es eine "zweite Stimme" der Aufnahme auf der Kassette gibt. ist das bei den anderen Daten ebenso ? war auf der original Kassette hierbei ein Unterschied zwischen der A und B Seite ?
Hallo! Ich bin mir nicht mehr sicher ob alle Tracks auf einer Seite oder auf beiden Seiten verteilt waren. Und ja, alle fünf Demotracks haben eine zweite Stimme für einen zusätzlichen Syntheiszer dabei. 👍
@@DuckTronic , DANKE Ihnen für die Information , schön das es Menschen wie Sie gibt
Ah, the nostalgic shriek of audio rate data transfer.
With the data crickets at the start and end.
How did you convert from midi/tablature to mc-202?
This is not MIDI. The MC-202 can store and read tracks via a special data format.
I demonstrate how to play a track from the original Roland data cassette into the MC-202. 👍
if you like this you'll also love the classic album "switched-on bach"
Bach would be proud of You
Mental video! Great stuff :)
Epic!
Magic stuff 🌈⭐️
This is really beautiful, Great Work!
I really like that 'harpsichord' sound. I wonder if my Roland SH-01A (101)can make such a sound?
It should 🙂
It's just a narrow pulse wave, any synth that allows you to manually set the pulse width of an oscillator should be able to do it!
@@gasolineandwine Thanks for this. The SH-01A allows for such an adjustment. I will have to give this a shot!
Awesome. Little fast and a bit of reverb might be a nice addition. Cool though, thanks for uploading.
Tangerine Dream!
geilo 😎🤘
I'd start the video with the last section at 5:20 and have the explanations afterwards
i didn't understand, how did you transfer it from sound to midi ?
The MC-202 does not understand MIDI. The audio cassette contains digital data (1&0) in a special data format that the MC-202 understands. At that time, this method was often used to save presets of synthesizers or to load them into a device. 👍
@@DuckTronic ty i understand now :)
this is gold
Cool . Félicitations de France ⭐⭐⭐
Amazing collection of french Vintages analogs synth & drums machine
ua-cam.com/video/528DtHGIbgw/v-deo.html&ab_channel=LeonardLORM
ARP2600-POLYSIX-FULL ROLAND TR SERIE-PRO one-SH101-MC202-TB303-RE201 and more...
Make one Ave Maria
very cold
geil..ich muss es auch ausprobieren...kann dir zb das MC202 hack tool sehr empfehlen 😃
Cool, das Tool schaue ich mir mal an. Falls Du zufällig die andere Data Cassette (oder Audiofile) mit Star Wars, Popcorn usw. auftreiben kannst wäre ich Dir sehr dankbar. 🙂
ich frage mal rum, zumindest die files sollte ich bekommen können :)
Das wäre cool. Ich habe ewig gesucht und bisher nichts gefunden. Danke Thorsten! 👍
Love Bach!
¿me pregunto si esta música tiene Copyright, o se puede usar en videos?
Copyright always has an expiry date. In most countries, a piece of music, like any other copyrighted work, becomes non-possessory and available for use by anyone, including commercially, 70 years after the death of the composer/lyricist. From that moment on, the work automatically belongs to the "public domain". However, this removal of protection varies from country to country, and the clarifications and legal interpretations are correspondingly incredibly complex. If there are copyright problems, UA-cam will tell me on its own or even block the video.
I ALWAYS thought, that on the MC-505, the patch sounds are something like four layers of
PCM data, which should be relatively easy to create on computer software. So I always wanted to try to create some PCM files from my own short samples, phrases that I’ve recorded, and then load them over the MIDI cable… I haven’t ever seen any user friendly way to enable the PCM upload into the MC-505. I need to change out the busted LCD screen and probably swap it’s battery for a new one as well, as I have not done this in over twenty years of owning the 505. Is there a way to swap out the batteries on synths without loosing everything when you do it? I guess I’ll back up everything first just to be safe, and I don’t think I feel comfortable swapping the battery out while it’s turned on, so probably it’ll need to be over a bulk dump and restore. THANKS FOR SHARING!!
Unfortunately, I don't have an MC-505 and can't help you. But the manual should tell you how to make backups.
I’m pretty sure you won’t lo data if you change the battery quick enough.
The MC505 uses samples from a ROM (read-only memory) that can't be changed
Klasse!👍👏🤗ma gut das ich die ganzen maschinen noch habe,aber leider die cassette nich😀
Die Files der Kassette gibt es in der Videobeschreibung 👍
@@DuckTronic wunderbar.ich danke dir👍
Quite soothing, a bit unexpected but still very nice :D
Some variety. 😅
*Sabre Wulf* love that tune :D
My green cheek conure was transfixed. We thank you.
😅 Thanks!
Really cool ! I found it miss just some deep chord on a pad for the background and that could done a great electro remix
The whole world is asking why you didn't twist the sliders while playing?
yes, that is what I wanted. Do a another version Ducktronic
Yes, good question... Maybe I should do an acid version of Bach. 😉
@@DuckTronic sure
@@DuckTronic yes, please do
@@DuckTronic PLEASE
This sounds like the backing to a Japanese video game and I'm in the wilderness exploring as I seek to level up my characters and acquire better gear.
Really cool- it’s interesting to see the mc 202 shine like that over the sh 101. It almost has a more “pure” tone. Still really similar, but- it’s almost like the 202 is more c64 ish than the 101.
What's a dada cassette?
sunshine-jones.com/roland-factory-data-cassettes/
Waiting for new covers from you
Thank you! Unfortunately, new videos will only come again at the beginning of next year.
waaaaaaaau it is strong :)
I have a load of old files and patches for various old synths on cassette. I knew my luck wouldn't last for them so I bunged them all on Minidisc and they've never failed me yet. Can't fault that.
Now add a 303 🙂
It runs a little fast :O Man, i hope Behringer recreates the MC-202 too and also adds the audio interface for "hardbit-rock" dumps and imports. Would be great so you don't have to rely on USB input only.
Wha wha wee wha !👌👌👊 hot 🔥
Sounds great in 1.75x speed. :D
Amazing collection of Vintages analogs synth & drums machine
ua-cam.com/video/528DtHGIbgw/v-deo.html&ab_channel=LeonardLORM
ARP2600-POLYSIX-FULL ROLAND TR SERIE-PRO one-SH101-MC202-TB303-RE201 and more...
Ххе, по звукам кассеты вспомнился ZX Spectrum.
please plug into the data bank of musik world
What’s a data cassette?
sunshine-jones.com/roland-factory-data-cassettes/
@@DuckTronic 😮 😮 😮
The voice of this guy in the intro sounds like Amir from Jake and Amir
Classical music on a 303, coming soon? 😉
Not for now, but maybe again sometime. Acid is probably more liked after all. 😅
Sunshine Jones?
😂Großartig!!!
Qué pedazo de flash
There was another data cassette i am searching for:
File Number 201 - Star Wars Cantina Band
File Number 202 - Popcorn
File Number 203 - Modern Zodiac
Someone out there?
I have also been looking for this for a very long time. I hope it is still somewhere, then I can make a video about it again. Please let me know if you ever have the files. 👍
lol, was not expecting the old school loading screech
A bit better at 75% speed but this is better patch than 90% of the synth covers out there. They always use reverb and shit, doesn’t sound good. This is way better nice work.
Why not just mention what the datacassettes were?! Did Roland used to sell songs as datacassettes: for specific devices?
Unfortunately, I don't know that for sure myself and could hardly find any information about it. There is a data cassette with classical music (as in the video) and supposedly one with other songs (Star Wars, Popcorn, etc.). I don't know if they were available for purchase at the time or if they came with the MC-202. The link in the video description will take you to some information.
Hall aus einem Quantec Gerät wäre fantastisch!
Ich muss gestehen, die habe ich noch nie getestet. Vielleicht ergibt sich ja mal eine Gelegenheit. 🙂
IN REAL TIME WAS GREAT
エモいとしか言いようがない
Ceephax - Prelude in 303 Major
The first one honestly sounded like it could belong in a 2D JRPG from the 90s
Even when you degrade and bastardise it, JSB's music is a source of eternal magic and wonder
Lol
I am only showing what ROLAND once suggested to its customers. 🤷♂️😅
Sounds like a Commadore 64!
i wish there was a synth version for every old music
They sound better when played by a professional
@@Whatismusic123 and?
There's a lot of MIDI files out there.
Do you know William Orbit?