Officer Tells Me that He Doesn't Have a Name
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- Опубліковано 2 лис 2013
- This is my first video I've made for citizen journalism. Please give me feedback in the comments section, tell me what you thought I could have done better.
Lieutenant Wright with the Buncombe County Sheriff's Department did not want to give me his name.
My general purpose (not just with this video) is to bring awareness that citizens are watching public servants and to help obtain a more transparent government through accountability.
The second officer was very polite and respectful and I was glad to see that.
I was glad as well to see at least some form of good police work in this video.
Since when did public property become "his" property?
Since the idiot with the Camera agreed to it but not rebutting it.. I guess
But Officers are payed to lie and intimidate you with lies. It's up to you if you want to get afraid and believe them.
DumpinMyGun
That doesn't make sense, because the cop claimed ownership of the property before the man with the camera could ever possibility rebuttal it.
Do you have any videos where you can show the whole world how to be unafraid of a group of armed cops out side of one of their facilities?
DumpinMyGun The problem with, " But Officers are payed to lie and intimidate you with lies. It's up to you if you want to get afraid and believe them." Is that they could make up a bullshit reason, that gets thrown out of court just to give you some hassle too. I sure as hell wouldn't want to be arrested for no reason and then sit a night in jail to have the case dismissed.
Alejandro Campos
2:18
The Man had many opportunities to rebut it. He chose to make the repeated claim, "You can tell me your name a badge number." So the so Called Officer's statement stands. It's his property according to their CON-verse-action. (Conversation). Could it be that the Officer knows more about the law and played the game better? Hope this helps my friend.
Maxim of Law:
"An unrebutted statement stands as truth in the matter."
Well since he is the commander of the facility you can understand him taking some sort of ownership just like a store manager taking ownership of his store.
the two cops are polite and awesome. cheers to them!
"Well you're standing on county property"
"Which is public property"
".....yes"
Dude just file a complaint, what a waste of resources
+Joshua LoCicero gotta agree---this is nonsense and waste of everybody's time----come on find something else to tape!
hard to file a complaint against somebody with no name
+Zelinkondorf but not impossible.
If a cop tells me he doesn't have a name, I don't think he'll want the name I plan on giving him...
hahaha, ...No name, No number, No accountability, No PR skills, No brain, No hair, No education, No personality, No weight loss program, No sense of humour, ...No nadz & No fkn clue. Way to go officer Numpty, ..you fit right in. lol
Jester Cohort They are pure Ignorant.
mark rigsby , ..that's for fkn sure ;)
Comment of the decade! hahahahaa....no hair lmfao!
Lol
His name is tyrannical
Wow. Hope you filed a complaint on that asshole. Cops are REQUIRED to give their badge number if asked for.
Depends. In some places they are required to do so by law, in other places it is only department policy that they do so, in others they have zero obligation to do so.
apburner1 Name one place where they don't have to identify themselves? They are public servants and HAVE to give you the information you request.
btsororos Yeah, complain to members of the same gang? How far will that get you?
Should he not prove that he is a cop before he can order citizens around?
Yes.
If an officer does not identify himself as an officer by giving his name and ID number/badge number you have NO obligation to recognize his authority.
It's sicking how poorly trained cops are these days. Maybe they've always been this poorly trained.
***** Despite your misguided aggression and terrible grammar "son", I actually agree with you. With one exception. This kind of behavior has always been rampant. People simply didn't have any way to prove it. It was their word against the cops.
I refuse to believe they weren't always like this. Now we got cameras that fit in our hands. Those are our weapons to use against them
Kid recording was out looking for trouble. You know he would have a fit if a police officer was on his property.
That court house is public property. That makes it as much his as yours and mine, so yes there was an officer on his property.
hey dummy public property is every ones property
dlhubby chubby Tell that to the kid recording if the police were to come on his property. Psh.
EDM - Love You just did it again! What is with these commenters to be raping your brain like that???
***** You have to be a child with your thought process. The city did not buy the property or pay taxes on it. The "kid" had to buy his and pays yearly for the use of the land. Which is crazy if you think about it. When you buy a home you buy the land with it. Why does the city think they can charge you a tax on something you bought??
Do you have a brain in your head??????
Should have stood your ground and resisted personal intimidation. If he arrests you, you can sue him and he will lose.
Name and County are now posted in the description.
The only thing he was trying to hide was the simmering conflict waging just beneath the surface. While on the one hand his [clearly] enormous ego was sufficiently humiliated that he was actually seeing flashing visions of himself snapping at any moment and absolutely destroying you in the process. However, this was counter balanced by his deeper fear-- that being the exposure of his quite remedial intellect and complete inability to think either critically or calmly under any kind of pressure-- especially the kind of pressure which bluntly confronts him with "education" and so in summing up I would wager a bet that he got that job through a respected relative and his application is full of contrived walter mitty ramblings- a bit like this one in fact. And on that bombshell... Goodnight! :)
Unfortunately, there is no chance of this demonstration being protected by the 1st Amendment in court, the second you said you were recording for 'personal reasons'. You could either remain silent or state that you intend to share the video with the public which would lend to the idea that this is a journalistic recording and therefore would be protected by the 1st Amendment.
OneScorpio Really? Can't people record their public officials in a public setting regardless of the motivation? This varies state by state with audio as some can claim wiretapping... Can an amateur photographer not take a bunch of pictures that would be suitable for some men in blue stroke calendar? That amateur photographer is only allowed to take photos of public employees if they're in the employ of a media outlet. I think that's specious.
muteuser I didn't say that they couldn't do it, I just said that it isn't protected behavior. Most demonstrations like this are to exercise the First Amendment and 'personal use' of video/audio recording isn't protected.
Jamel Wooten Please clarify the difference between the two, I don't follow. It seems as though it is something that would be protected regardless of a person's motivation. Can't recording yourself be a part of that first amendment? You're capturing your voice, your view and information, is a recording not protected speech?
omg people... you don't get it, it doesn't matter if the guy was just there to argue, they are doing it to test how much cops think they are more important than the law.. which was proven. think of it as a fire drill, its just a test for us citizens to see how they act.
That cop is simply horrible at his job
why because he didn't know who owned the sidewalk? He was polite and even offered to get a sheriff supervisor for the guy.
***** The one who wouldn't identify himself.
GoranKeoki but why the hell was this guy recording for the sole purpose of starting shit? He had no business there, and he is wasting these cops time.
We can't all be good! Show respect anyway!
Credit where credit is due, the officers who responded were cordial and respectful. The second officer even said "They seem to think that's there's..." about the sidewalk. As much as we should expose bullies like the Sheriff's deputy, we should also recognize good officers like the two that responded. They didn't even ask about recording or anything, they respected his rights. Even if they don't agree with what someone is doing, they should respect our rights to do it. Too many cops, like Deputy Curly, want to show everyone how big their peckers are.
Amen, the two cops who showed up from the city were very professional, however they just pulled up and parked in the middle of the road. They could have parked legally. Just saying.
Outstanding camera work. You handled the situation with the first cop, and his clones perfect. He was rude, evasive, and without your camera probably would have tazed you and alleged you assaulted.
The responding officers..wow, they must be new or rare because those two were great.
2:48 cowards. Whole staff should be fired
Can you imagine what is happening inside if they are this afraid of filing outside
You could look up property records, his name should be there listed as owner.
I will say I have a lot of respect for how the city 'Peace Officer' handled himself. Refreshing to se a police officer say, "I don't Know" instead of making up stuff, seemingly to enforce their authority (they don't have).
"You can get off my property" wow. just wow.
LeakedNation|Gaming|Tutorials
His job is to worry about a law abiding citizen who did nothing wrong at all, outside of a facility where he works? Yeah seems legit.
So video recording someone implies they may be a rapist? Wow.
***** No, it implies that LeakedNation|Gaming|Tutorials is an idiot and replying to those kinds of people is a waste of time.
Manny Foxgiven he told the guy he was breaking the law ???? Ooppsss that’s not true anyway glad this didn’t get out oh hand. The officer involved got fired
The 2 PEACE OFFICERS at the end made this clip all the more worthwhile.
"You can get off my property."
Your property?! Who the fuck are you the Queen of France?
I do believe France has a president.
***** They beheaded the queen of France some time back =/
Benjamin Mosley You mean that spoiled bitch back during the revolution?
*****
I was referring to Marie Antoinette.
Dumbass
"You can get off my property"
Yeah what a piece of arrogant shit Lieutenant Wright is. He should be demoted!
Demoted? He should be fired, given a bad reference and be forced to get a job in Mcdonalds.
92JMFL Mcdonalds is too easy.....he should be forced to work with me.......I'd make him cry like the bitch he is.
92JMFL I hope they fire him but he will probably get a promotion because he avoided giving his name in the end.
The next time a cop says leave my property, or get off my street, remind him that actually the property, and the streets actually belong to the people. We pay for them with our tax dollars. Also ask for a supervisor, or someone higher than him.
5:04 "To be honest with you, I don't know" - much respect to him, a lot of police don't like stating they don't know.
Aprime
Yea especially whenever they're ashamed to not know
Police have gotten way out of hand. My county property! How in the hell does that happen?
At least the city's police appeared as thought they were actually trying to help, I was half expecting them to start harassing you for filming and escalate the situation.
WOW! There really ARE good cops! (the city cop, not the county cop)
"This is county property!"
"Yes, which is public property."
"Shit, he knows."
This "Cop" is an excellent example of what's wrong with law enforcement today. "You can get off MY property or you will be arrested". Yikes!
"You need to get off MY property.."
I think anyone, whether in uniform or not, has the right to ask why they are being videotaped by random strangers. It is just creepy.
On another note, that bald cop should go back to training. He doesn't know the limits of his own job.
1c3yb0wtwins oh yeah the guy doesn't have to say why, but he shouldn't act so offended just because he was asked a question.
But yes, overall, as I mentioned, the cop doesn't know the limits of his own job. Basically, they were both in the wrong in this video.
Eric AMBM
Well said. I agree.
If a random stranger asks for you to stop and you don't it's against the law, if a public servant (paramedic, doctor, fireman, police, etc.) ask you to stop it is entirely your decision whether or not you want to stop filming and they can't do shit about it
***** true, so there is a bit of a legal double standard. He still can ask though.
***** not in the united states. in the US of A you can legally film ANYONE IN PUBLIC. there is absolutely no expectation of privacy. however.... that being said making money off of people you film is an entirely different story. If you film someone on the street and then monotize your video without their permision you are using their likeness and can become actionable. as in law suit.
That's funny.... suddenly it turned from "County property" to "my property"
As for the distinction that there is a difference between county and city property, that confuses me a little as I live in Australia, and we get confused easily lol.
As far as I understand the matter here, I believe that so called " public property" if it's in the within the built up area of a city or town, then it's Council land, and if it's outside city limits then it's owned by the State Gubbermint.
Ultimately, all land in Australia is owned by "THE CROWN" which should not be confused with the stolen jewellery that QE2 wears for ceremonial floggings of peasants, it actually is " THE CROWN CORPORATION" .
However, I believe that the same principle applies here as well. The police have the power to give you a "move on" order, which was designed to be able to calm down aggressive people who were in the middle of, or about to create a public order nuisance, affray, disturbance or something of that order.
By the way, I think you handle yourself brilliantly.... well done.
"Is there a law that says I have to leave public property?"
"Yes there does."
My name is Officer Puller......Peter Puller.
lol, so by his logic, you can be arrested for going to the police station. "my property", lol.
The other cops that came were complete bros.
Oh yea, that's OFFICER WALRUS!!!🤣
what happen to America? how is that allowed?
The cops really have no obligation to give there name or badge number.
lol. yes they do.
No they dont - I challenge you to prove it. Show me a law ( not department policy which is not legally binding) which states the cops have to show ID.
It's a very common myth that people claim cops have to show ID on demand -- but I have yet to see anyone show me any law which states that is the case
Unless the cops are arresting or detaining someone they dont have to show ID.
Of course if you disagree with me I challenge you to show me the law which states they need to show ID on demand.
badpanda84 yes he does, no he doesn't, yes he does, no he doesn't. What is this, 5th grade? Holy shit, grow-up!
Faustino Raquiza At the end of the day nobody has be able to prove ( but showing me a law) which states cops have to show ID.
My challenge still stands -- if you believe cops have to show ID -- prove it.
badpanda84 On the flipside the guy filming does not have to produce ID or give his name either. He's done nothing wrong. Stalemate.
you didn't offer him a donut first...BIG MISTAKE
The CORRUPTION needs to end !!
Respect mah authoritah!
Can you post the number to the sheriff so i can call please.
Just go to the county page but i'm assuming they already had some complaints..
He must have worked at Leon valley PD at sometime. Officer no name ! LLLLLLLLLLAAAAAAAWWWWWWSSSSSUUUUUIIIITTTT
Question. How is county property, not public property?
I think law enforcement is starting to SLOWLY get the message that citizens are tired of them being able to operate without impunity. Many citizens, who would never have thought of filming "cops" have now begun to do so. It is because they have seen videos of disgraceful behavior, and want to do something about it. I find it funny and ironic that it is directly related to the behavior of law enforcement that don't want to be filmed, that is making more videos. They are the product of the very thing they fight against. Well done!
MUH County Property
First security guard doesn’t have a clue. “Get off MY property “ says it all 😶🌫️
'' Without identifying yourself I do not consider your order a lawful one '' !
I'm all for on duty cops being required to give name and badge numbers on request. I'm going to advocate here (a little bit) for an understanding. It seems in this circumstance you have Sheriffs getting off work and walking out of the building. Getting into their personal cars - and you're putting that on UA-cam. A spouse may be picking them up, kids could be in the car, they don't know you or trust you with that. This is a detention facility, so emotions run high, guards get set up and blackmailed, families get threatened, and posting the images and names of the people that work inside can put them at risk. Say you record a Deputy getting in his car and show the plate, and later his wife or 16 year old kid is in the car and someone confronts them?
With that said, Lieutenant Wright was out of line, he should have explained (on camera) his alarm at your filming his officers coming to and leaving work. If he had, I expect he'd have accomplished his goal, mitigating any danger to his Deputies and the facility. I'm putting this on him as you were pretty cool through out, and he seemed mostly interested in impressing his staff by swinging his balls at you.
How would you have responded if he has explained his concerns, then offered - "You know I can't give impromptu interviews, we all have jobs to do inside at the moment, but I can give you the card of the media liaison and request that you can come back, be invited inside and interview me all you like. Can we do that?"
I'm betting your video would have been a lot more pro-Sheriff. Am I wrong?
Bet he has a name w/ a .45 in his face.
That nigga will let you call him whatever you want when the burner comes out.
***** lol u guy's r dumb thinkin ur hard talkin bout guns in coppa's faces. yeah they piss us off n some of them are dumb but they r just normal people with families and doin there job. time to grow up and stop bein a stupid little chav
^ The irony.
Wow you're so cool. I bet you could shoot that .45 really well based on all the training you do on COD
Ouch, a COD putdown.
If he doesn't have a name, he doesn't have authority.
" My property" What a power trippin' trickbag !!!
Officer got fired in case anyone was wondering what happened. I live in this town. Huge embarrassment for the sheriff. It was a quick termination
Which officer? Duncecap.
Damn dude... If you would have known the reason for the name and badge number it would have shut him down... You need a name and badge number so you KNOW he is a cop. It is so they can identify themselves as part of the county. Any person can dress up like law enforcement; but if you are actually ENFORCING the law, you have to identify yourself as a cop with your name and badge number. That way, any discrepancies you may have with that person can be called in to the county, and they can tell you whether or not the person is a cop.
That officer was out of line, for not giving the citizen his name and number. He should have kept his calm and handled the situation better.
awesome Vid man, I loved the questions you asked. it showed courtesy to every officer you have encountered. and the two local officers handled themselves professionally and showed you respect.
Great job still getting is name also.
Also, have you posted this to PINAC yet?
i hate how all the other officers are complacent in the blatant violation. but glad 2 good cops showed up - woulda sucked if it had been his buddies that showed up and shot u ..... fight the good fight my brother
He just stands there waiting for cops starting an argument with him.
Local cops performed citizens contact in a an excellent professional manner...well done! Sheriff officers looked like a street gang.
Only 8 % of cops have a batchlors degree... Meaming they probably only have about 4-10 hours of education reguarding law via their accademy training. Seriously if you take a crimminal law class in comunity college you have more knowlege about laws than 92% of cops..
it's a bachelor's degree not a bactchelors degree
54% are High School Dropouts.
What most assholes don't get is that police officers are people too. The law may state that he has to give a name, but if a creep with a camera randomly asks you your name and ID without saying why he wants it and refuses to leave, I fully understand the police officer not wanting to give out his infos. Now it's just about shitting on anything related to law enforcement to appear as the tough guy.
What YOU don't understand is that cops swear an OATH to uphold the Law and our Constitution. Not the laws that apply only to the public or ones the don't feel like complying with, but ALL of them. If you look up this particular Departments website, I'm sure you'll see a bunch of crap about their integrity. Integrity is doing the right things at all times, not when you feel like. So what if the guy recording is a jerk, ( which I disagree ) the cops should be able to take it. If not, they should get another job.
Lets all post videos of correctional facilities, prison guards and their names online, for FREEDOOOM!
*****
What part made no sense? Me paraphrasing what hes dong or him doing it?
I wasnt disputing his rights, this is totally what founding fathers had in mind. He really should post building blueprint here too since its a public bulding and its publicly available. Its too bad he only got one name though, now people can only look up his address instead of the whole security team...
it doesnt matter if its a creep or not it is the law for an officer to give you his/her name upon request
uh... no. police officers are not civilians. they are public servants. it's not about shitting on the law, it's about police accountability. when police try to bully you into doing something by telling you it's the law,and if you don't do it they'll arrest you or get violent with you, generally we tend to take that as face value, but a lot of the time, they are lying unlawfully. It's about the principle. We pay taxes to have them protect us. Not so that they can detain us and bully us. In fact I'm tired of this bullshit.
The cop who responded fro the other agency seemed like he was actually a nice person.
On several occasions I've had police refuse to identify themselves to me, yet they all asked me for I.d. in response with the added threat of noncompliance and refusing to obey the orders of an officer of the law. I finally called internal affairs, which informed me that all police officers must identify themselves and that I am not required to identify myself unless I have commited a crime or I'm part of a criminal investigation; but, that I never have to show I.d. (not required by U.S. law). I was told that I can verbally give my name, date of birth and current address... or, they can fingerprint me (if I've commited a crime) if I choose not to give them any information.
Nice video... You did well.
99% of the time I side with the citizens on videos like this, and I agree that the police are out of line. However, this is one of those examples where the person filming is just meddling with police and ultimately trying to get a reaction out of them. The point of these videos is documenting the abuse of power, not starting unnecessary conflicts with the police.
Although I agree he seems to be just trying to stir up trouble, how hard would it be to handle this professionally? Either ignore him until he does something which he probably won't or answer his request as you are required to. This cop/public employee by not giving his name gives the camera man something to hold onto.
What a Great example of a Good Cop and a Bad Cop in one video.
The bald cop owns the county property wow he’s special..
this is why british police are nice because WE DON'T FUCKING DO THIS SHIT
What do the British do when you walk into restricted areas and refuse to leave when asked to? Make you some tea?
legisnuntius we beat the fuck out them and then make some tea
You do though, there are videos all over youtube of British police doing the exact same thing.
Monsta Munch no there isn't theres maybe 1 or 2 but we don't stand outside a police station filming the police coming out
You sound like a fool, you said you guys don't do it. Then admit to one or two videos of the same exact thing. #logic
Guys, I want everyone who sees this comment to give me their full name , phone number and address ok? Well why wouldnt you give it me ? DO YOU HAVE SOMETHING TO HIDE????
Seriously this vid is a fucking joke, The officer was very polite, you were on private property.
He wouldnt tell you the information because he felt threatened by your presence with a camera and didn't want to give you his personal information, as you wouldnt tell him why you're filming (he thougt you are some psycho who would come to his home and try and kill his family)
You provoked him, he didnt provoke you, if you would of been well mannered and a bit HUMAN the officer would have no problem in telling you the required information, instead you set him up by being rude, ignorant and threatening, to get a response which would make us think he is the bad guy.
You do know that he is a fellow human being just like all of us and you are after the wrong people? These people are not at the high end of the pyramid, they are merely soldier just doing what they are told to put a meal on their families table.
Very very misleading video.
Police name and badge number is required by law upon request of a citizen. They swore an oath to uphold the law and so they must comply.
Next time a police officer tries to pull you over, refuse to give ID, see how that turns out, he may be a psycho in uniform wanting to kill your family. You'll not be able to walk away from it.
The man was just standing there filming nothing, the police officers initiated the conversation, there was no provoking involved. The cameraman was very well mannered, he simply must a lawful request and was refused.
Once he puts on that uniform he is no longer a fellow human being like all of us, he is a servant to the rest of us. Police are the ones enforcing the bullshit, so yes they are responsible. Sure, the government tries to enact bogus acts and statues and what not, but it is at the police officers discretion to enforce them.
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Eloozionist Did the Police officer pull this guy over? No. The guy is harassing the officer. This guy provoked the Officer and the guy was on Private property, the officer advised him where the Public side walk was nicely, but this guy kept harassing him WHILST STILL TRESPASSING. So good luck if this goes to court, the guy is TRESPASSING.
Second of all;You said: "Once he puts on that uniform he is no longer a fellow human being like all of us" Please can you advise me as to which species does the officer transform into when he puts the uniform on? As you say "he is no longer a fellow HUMAN BEING" What is he then? This is probably the stupidest statement I have ever seen on the internet lmfao.
Mod Mark 1. Police officer initiated the conversation, so if anyone provoked it, it was him. It would have went a lot smoother had the police officer complied with the laws.
2. Yes, that's right, he is no longer a FELLOW human being, he becomes a servant to the rest of us. That's makes the rest of us ABOVE him. You're emphasizing the wrong words.
Eloozionist No.
The guy filming initiated the provocation by trespassing and filming on private property.
Please don't ever become a lawyer, you would lose every case if this is how you see things.
Also, no matter if he is a Civil Servant, he is still a FELLOW HUMAN BEING with Human rights. Nothing can change this.
I would just like to say those people that are saying that the person who recorded this video of the officer, even though he was being polite you are forgetting is an officer of the law therefore accountable for his actions. Therefor you have to abide by the law the lost its ears to give his number when a complaint is been made. You said he didn't give his number because he felt threatened. With six, maybe 7 large offices behind him. Really? If the person recording this film had the equivalent number why would you feel threatened? This fella deserves a medal for making the ploice and people of authority accountable. Mate i will buy you a pint if i see you, you are a genuine star. Carry on doing what you are doing and encourage other people to do what you are doing. Obviously do not break the law but let officers and people of authority know that they are accountable if they do something wrong. You are a good man.
"County property " isn't public property, it all belongs to one gatekeeper!!!.
This cop is a prime example of why police all over America are not only mistrusted but despised by the people that they continue to harass.. This cop was really scary as his demeanor was very aggressive before he asked the first question. As far as his authority to do what he did I believe he was acting outside the law and without identifying himself would be acting outside the law at any time about any issue and anybody would be within their right to bust his chops and send him home crying to his mama.. There is little else one can do accept sue to have dickweeds like him stripped of their "costume" his badge and thereby his paycheck.. Dickweeds like him should not be allowed to continue in a job that places great responsibility on them considering that he packs a gun and in this particular incident certainly showed his quick temper, his misuse of authority, his willingness to lie and to break the very laws he has sworn to(and paid to) uphold..
his ass should be fired he is suppose to know the law.
"Names are for friends... so I don't need one"
Little BOY without a JOB 😂
Lol the officers that responded to the call were cool. xD
When he said he had no name, you should've said "Well that's fine; I have many names, so it evens out."
etherraichu What the fuck are you talking about? Was that supposed to be funny?
+1stIParkMyCar you sir, have anger issues.
+Darren R mind your business. Lol
***** since when is commenting on youtube a business?
***** you were trying to be exterme and angry for the trolling effect. but you failed. what a pathetic human being. hah.
Youknow they sent the two most professional officers they could muster up.
I was waiting to you will respect my authori -tie!!
isnt it illegal not a policeofficer to tell his name when he is told to do it??????
not necessarily illegal but we do have the autority to ask and it should be told if asked lol if tht made sense
MENDEZ HECTOR
are you high? lol ! jaja
+skoteinos patrinos 420 blazin
There's nothing illegal about it but most police departments have it as their policy to do so
no sadly no law department policy and seeing how law enforcement agencies can't even manage to get corrupt pieces of shit piggy fucks to not break the law so fallowing policy long shot at best
the cop was wrong period the camera guy was wrong too as far as I know schools hospitals and jails are usually off limits to pics because of privacy of the patient, students, prisoners and because they usually are not in positions to give consent, yes I know they are public places but because of patient, minor, and judicial rights it is what it is besides say you catch a prisoner and because of the video he claims he cant get a job, now he can sue you frivolous maybe but they would be in their right
Actually the cop wasn't wrong. You are granted a limited license for entering government property on official business. You can see where the guard asked the camera guy if he had official business at 0:59. He asked him a series of questions about his business and at 1:40 revoked his license to conduct official business on county property. At that moment, the camera guy was required by law to immediately leave the property. He could not legally remain and ask for the names of the people who were revoking his license. By not leaving immediately, he committed the crime of criminal trespass. If you invite someone over to your house and then ask them to leave and they refuse, the same exact law protects you as well. The officers in this video did not arrest him when they had probable cause to do so. He has no lawsuit against them, he should thank them for ignoring his crimes.
legisnuntius I meant not giving his name and badge number
That's a policy, not a law. He can try to complain to the sheriff and then the sheriff has the option but not the requirement to reprimand. The sheriff could also develop a policy whereby officers never give their name and badge number. Now if he had been arrested, it would be discoverable evidence. What this guy can do is engage in political speech with like minded individuals and attempt to elect a different sheriff who would enforce a policy of giving names and badge numbers. That is the extent of his recourse.
legisnuntius so you agree with me that he's in the wrong, its not about whether he can be reprimanded or not,. Nice to see this jerk set the example to his subordinates who cant help but snicker in the background, he never id himself for all we know he could be a R.O. dispatcher or M.E. on a power trip. besides say he was to do something that was unlawful what is the guy supposed to do? complain against the "bald guy" trust me i've gone through this scenario with credentialed news crews and I did it by the book as to not make myself or the organization I represented look bad. this is one of the reasons vets cant transition to civilian life to quote Rambo "there wouldn't be no trouble except for that king shit cop" yes the photog was an ass but because the "officer" automatically is the one who will control the outcome he should behave according to the law and policy or for those of you who are religious "do on to others..."
Interacting became business as for a lawsuit I don't know where you got that from lets review again 1 photog is wrong like I said before jails schools and hospitals don't let you record on site 2 site staff are allowed to throw you out but three (which seems to be the issue here) he is asking for the name of the guy a public servant no less who is throwing him out for his name and we get "i dont have a name" thàt is the only issue here everything else is irrelevant he 1 makes it look like he's doing wrong 2 makes his department look bad 3 is setting a bad example for his subordinates 4 is going to end up wasting someones time high up because the photog is going to whine about it until the cows come home I don't know what if any public interaction class this guy took but if it can be percieved as wrong doing then you must do your best to avoid it period no ifs or buts then when the munis arrived instead of approaching and saying I'm Lt. Etc here and this guy da da da. He stays on his turf hiding up there like a jackass makes them walk up there wasting.their time as unlike him (a CO) the munis actually have streets to patrol he knew he was wrong not legally but proffessionaly and in these days when no one likes the police no department needs this every member is PR and that's that if you can't see it then I can't help you maybe someday you will understand when you get a ticket and the cop says I don't need to tell you what where or when all you need to know is you broke VC etc.... it was never about legality its about Proffesional integrity and Standards
Wouldve made him arrest me... then I would've had his name as the arresting office for the lawsuit I'd file
When I travel from my current home back to my home town, Asheville is one of the cities that I go through. Glad to know that the city police are reasonable, but the sheriffs department seems like something I don't want any business with, ever. Thank you for this video.
Nothing better to do with your life? Sad little person. Out for an argument. End of story
QQ.
City property, County property, and State property IS public property. You should have told him to get off YOUR property.
" I don't answer questions..." End of discussion.
What a rude cop the first one. Thinks he is above the law. They here to protect and serve.
ur asking for trouble
Said the Nazi to the Jew.
wut
how?
? what you make no sense
this guy is asking for trouble i agree with you.
Did you get done for wasting police time?
I would have made a citizens arrest for impersonating a sheriff!
This would be a good story for one of those HallMark movies. The Cop with No Name. Poor little cop. He probably got beat up in school his whole life. Little fat pugie feller and he did'nt have a name. Bless his little heart. All he wanted to do was to grow up and be a man some day.But it's so hard to make it in a man's world without a name. So he had to hide behind a badge the rest of his miserable life to keep from gettin the living shit beat out of his rude ass. Tragic story.
how could you have done better? DON'T make videos just to stir up shit ! ABSOLUTELY no purpose to this.
the purpose of this video is to show what kind of people the cops are, first class idiots
dlhubby chubby
the guy recording looked like a first class douche bag to me, doesn't he have anything better to do than to annoy cops in the fucking middle of the night
*****
Are you ***** ?
What kind of business do you have telling another person what he can or cannot do ?
it is he's right to do anything he wants and consider it better then the rest of the things he could be doing -_-
he can ask an officer whenever he wants what's he's name and badge number and the officer by law needs to give it to him.
Exactly like when an officer tell's you to put your hands on your head while you have an illigal gun on you , YOU HAVE TO PUT THEM UP MANNN !
if a citizern or anybody for that matter asks a public worker he's name and badge number the officer , NEED TO GIVE IT TO HIM MANNN!
im gonna report your comment as abuse , you are abusing me by raping my mind with you nasty filthy opinions :(
EDM - Love
Do the world a favor and don't ever have kids, please
*****
Here is some advice .
Never take a person seriously when istead of shuting up or writing something meaningfull he insults you by telling you something that doesn't have shit to do with anything .
telling me that i dont need to have children because you assume i am moranic and idiotic is the same as telling a handicaped human being with retardetion to not have anymore kids because he does not live up to the standards of the average human being.
YOU SIR ARE DISGUASTING :)
I understand the point of documenting unprofessional police behaviour and misuse of power, BUT when you actively hunt for it you are actually part of a setup. Waiting around outside a police station filming is a suspicious thing to be doing and is going to provoke the police. It's obvious you're going to call police attention and it's obvious what type of reaction you're going to get when you then refuse to answer their questions. In this way it isn't the same as if you were simply sitting around on that sidewalk and were then harassed by police. These kinds of films may show certain aspects of police behaviour which are unprofessional, but the way it was instigated by you filming is not right either.
He wasn't hunting or instigating, nor are 85% of the film makers I've seen who do this sort of thing. Cops don't like being filmed. They have a massive problem with being filmed. Quite literally, as it's been shown in many videos, people can stand a half a block or more away from the police, and still end up getting harassed. The lieutenant is an asshole on a power trip.
isn't that what the pigs do, to actively hunt for it?
Right or wrong is irrelevant. He's not a public servant. I'm not saying he is but he gets to "hunt" for police attention and they are supposed to attend to him professionally and lawfully. Asking him to answer a question is fine but when he doesn't, that's not supposed to provoke harassment. The articulation of one's rights is NOT the same thing as suspicious, as defined by the courts. This cop doesn't LIKE it, which is a different matter, having to do with his egos and insecurities and is something that has no place in a person who has the power to shoot and arrest you. Not giving his ID number is his passive way of asserting dominance and shows his utter contempt for his real position and the responsibilities in entails.
the copps patrol the streets. there looking for trouble too.
@@avedolla It's called "doing their job".
Those city cops were pretty cool .
HE SAID TO GET OFF HIS PROPERTY SO HE MUST BE A MULTI ZILLIONAIR
TO OWN SO MUCH PROPERTY!