@@jon9428 @Jon Thiel follows the Straussian method of communication, of not revealing much, communicating in esoteric ways to specific audiences in carefully written speeches, he does not wish to publicize himself neither reach for wide audience.
Public Accountability? CIA has Public Accountability??? Can anyone provide me with an example where the CIA was actually held publicly accountable beyond a Senate hearing where they seem to not know the answers to any of the questions?
I still don't understand why retired CIA employees are even allowed to still have security clearances. If a private employee leaves a job, that employee loses access to the company's private files, so why wouldn't it be the same for ex-CIA employees?
The security clearance doesn’t give you access to CIA files. It just tags you as someone who can be trusted. So on one hand Trump is funding private operations, and at the same time cutting off anyone who is qualified to be employed by those private organizations.
all classified information operates on a "need to know" basis. Just because you hold a security clearance doesn't mean you have any access to that Intel.
Because people who work for government contractors need security clearances to do their jobs. How do you think Lockheed or Boeing employees work on military hardware?
@@sciencecompliance235 This is the trade off to keep the Military Industry Complex tied to US interests. The alternative, which I think Bustamante is kind of soft selling, and Trump was promoting, is a world in which independent military & intelligence corps simply sell to the highest bidder. Which is another way of saying “mercenaries.” Of the two options, the former still seems less repulsive and dangerous. Somewhat.
No shortage of prospects. It's also the requirement for bomber crews, fighter pilots, cannon cockers, retirement fund managers and associated bankers, FBI, NSA, private Intelligence agencies, multinatilnal CEO's & CFO's, labor union leaders, teachers union leaders, and, of course, politicians & judges.
@@JADiaz10 both accounts can be true btw. He can’t “destroy everything this guy is saying” because what he is saying is probably true. The CIA is big bro, it’s a catch all term
I heard two things I disagreed with in the first few minutes. DCGS (in-house) products were not better than Palantir, quite the opposite actually, and Peter Thiel was never offered a cabinet position.
He strictly follows Rene Girard it’s a theory and is a trained contrarian it’s a public act. Listen carefully and make your own decision but know Peter speaks the truth and his mind so use his words wisely 😊 he is an insider billionaire
At least on other podcasts he’s been extremely blunt and levels with audience and weighs both sides. Far more refreshing to me than the psychopathic fantasy vision that other billionaires like zuck and gates try to sell that you KNOW they don’t actually believe themselves.
Lex, Please look at getting the CEO of Palantir on Alexander Karp... Incredible story behind the founding of Palantir, but also incredible story that they have been a the forefront of Big Data for 18+ years... Alex is also a very cool character with a cult following, would be a great episode.
@@kungfoochicken08 Yes, it’s a very lazy rule of thumb employed by people who think slogans on corn flakes packets are philosophy. The homeless guy at the corner also rages about the system but you would ignore him. Thiel has the basis fascistic ideas, so did Hitler, in one case the German establishment listened to the deranged nut job and in Thiels case hopefully he will fade away. In other words do some more analysis.
The gay German billionaire living in the United States who doesn't like paying US taxes...He HATES the billionaire tax...What is this clown doing in the US?
So, if 'flexible ethics' is required to function in a wider world where unethical behaviour outcompetes ethical, this creates an unvirtuous circle of incentivised unethical competition where, if everyone else is unethical, one has to flex to even more unethical tactics to remain competitive. This is perfectly in line with game theory and the ethics of capitalism, and links with how power corrupts and ends justifying means. And all by shaddowy organisations overseen by politicians supposedly giving oversight in our best interests. But how is this unvirtuous cycle of increasingly unethical behaviour in our interests?
@@roykeane1922 If you don't understand those words and how deep they run in philosophy and politics man, you're going to be a lifetime behind any part of this conversation.
@@brucekendall9873 I think he was just trying to be antagonistic and make Michelle Lewis explain and define those words so he can then try and pick her argument appart. He didn't have enough ammo to cherry-pick and misrepresent, so he asked for more inputs to play with. Narcissist tricks.
Yea let’s corporatize our intelligence agencies especially since they are so good at being intelligent and because less oversight which can really hinder an intelligence agency then they can do whatever they want.
There’s already no effective oversight. The last time anyone tried to hold them accountable was Senator Feinstein’s investigation of the CIA torture program. The CIA hacked into the computers of the Chair of the oversight committee to keep on eye on what they were doing. The whole thing is a joke. The NSA has the same shit. Hayden lied to Congress about the NSA spying on literally every single American. He still walks around uncharged. The programs have been expanded, and officials still can’t point to any cases where these bulk collection programs saved lives.
But can you effectively show accountability in secret agencies? I don’t think one can. Trump did not care about disincentives for agents.This is laughable. Trump is a moron.
"Without the public accountability that directors of CIA have"...yeah ok. These orgs are probably at the top when it comes to having power without accountability.
Morally flexible and for profit business… the last two things that should ever be associated with intelligence agencies. No way either of those end up doing is good as a country in the long run.
was not the FBI formed out of the Pinkerton’s private agency when the governmwnt decided it needed to nationalize the intelligence and private detective industry to a certain extent?
Soo intelligent that the intelligence don't know what happened to building 7. Nobody needs propaganda we need facts. We need to investigate cia,fbi and mosaad. Extream zonionst terrorists did this everybody knows. Please read the ((clean break)). And call on your congress shut down these three major domestic terrorists organization. All this to hunt down and track down Americans for political reasons. Does anybody believe this bullshit. Everybody knows no investigation will happen because of the black mail, what a joke pretending to have checks and balances. Please go read about dictatorships they are all run by lies , propaganda, and intelligence . No constitution in this banana republic
The problem is that when you take away the private industry incentive from senior officials leaving, there's no reason to enter the CIA in the first place. So many CIA employees understand this incentive. After a few decades, you get rewarded with highly paid work in private industry. That incentivizes people to join the CIA and stay in service for decades! This is how public service works. That's why Trump's decision was terrible. And if you think that everyone who enters the CIA and is competent in the CIA is completely satisfied and incentivized by the knowledge that they're doing a service to their country, then you're hopelessly naive.
@@RedTeufel not that much. CIA or Military make peanuts compared to what their civilian counterparts make. Mercenaries in Iraq easily made a few times what soldiers make.
Sociopaths are always hard to deal with though. They are enormously interesting and have an outsized effect on the world. But people often report that it's like dealing with a Velociraptor. No one wants to get eaten.
@@tkokflux6322 This comment is about Peter Theil. I talked about Sociopaths. The link is clear. Either Lex plays it extremely cool, or he doesn't have the ability to deal with a sociopath.
Thats not the point he was making. What he was saying is that the moral flexibility comes in what the person can perceive as "self defense", in order to justify their actions. There's an entire spectrum there between reactive and proactive behavior to threats (real or perceived), and each persons inflection point for when that crosses over into immoral behavior is different. Think of "killing Hitler as a baby" as an example.
@@davidoconnor1773 self-defence by definition is a response to violence. It’s not the initiation of force but a response to it. It’s pretty straightforward. No scenario would involve killing baby Hitler. That’s just what morally corrupt spooks try to convince you otherwise.
I’m done with it the chaos created by our government agencies the misinformation and the lack of transparency that has been denied on various levels of security and accountability for my immediate family and myself . The cover up was insane and has been heightened by exposure to fraudulent practices as well as fraudulent entities that claim to serve the US government. Reparations need to begin immediately and more than apology is expected plus the return of my vehicle and assets.
Thinthread was an in house NSA system that would have flagged every participant in the 9/11 terrorist attack that was taken off line 30 days prior in favor of a Contractors inferior product that failed to flag any of them. The man who made that decision went to work for the company He gave that contract to when He left. No one ever charged that man with any crime.
That Wasta isn't social capital that's spent or conserved the way Bustamante is using the term, it literally translates to connection. That's like your uncle on the police force, your brother on the hiring committee.
CIA and fbi and IRS needs to be abolished or at least lose there top secret capabilities. They do way more harm then help. No reason they should be able Todo illegal shit and not have to awsner for it. But they put fear in everyone and tells us they need Todo this.
The one thing Andrew is glossing over regarding the revoking of security clearances was the punitive nature in Trump's reasoning for revoking them. He was revoking them from those who were retired and speaking ill of him.
@@tyd8077Peter Thiel studied under Rene Girard, which already says a lot. Go watch the debate between him and Eric Schmidt where he absolutely destroys him and the Silicon Valley technocrat class. Listen to any of his keynote speeches at college graduations- he genuinely believes in real, tangible evil as a force driving the elites (like actual satanic unseen forces guiding them). He’s a complex man.
Rivage companies aren't incentivized to be innovative, nor create the best product, those things are risky, and require more sunk costs. That's why most innovations are publicly funded
Holy cow I didn't catch the resemblance. On his own channel he is filmed from a different angle. With me enthralled with his teeth. He maybe be better than Mango, but no one is better than Azrael Abyss.
So after serving 40 years in the military and making peanuts doing it, and missing every kid’s birthday, it’s wrong to take a private sector job where you’re well paid for your expertise?
@@diogenes4124 ok, so instead of joining to serve, you’d prefer only power hungry psychopaths who just want to feel powerful, knowing they’ll be dead broke, and unemployable afterwards?
@@diogenes4124 I think you shot yourself in the foot. Your asking if a smart man would a great paying job that requires no skill or achievement ? And answer to that is YES because it already happens all the time. I assure you that the Hardvard graduates all aim for great paying careers... Also, Robinson didn't comment about the reasons for serving in a position of power with low pay (like police or CIA). He simply asked WHY IT IS WRONG FOR A LOW PAID PUBLIC EMPLOYEE to EARN A HIGH PAYING JOB AFTER DECADES OF SERVICE. 🤔
Chomsky sounds like one of those menopausal neolib SSRI-moms on The View nowadays, interviewing him is elder abuse. Everything he says now may as well have come out of the WEF and CIA.
This guy is so wrong about private industry fostering ethical behavior, it's not even funny. In the long-term, it _could_ be in the company's interest to act ethically, or, and this is a big "or" here, it is in the interest of the company to seek monopoly power so that they can bend their customers over a barrel and not have to be answerable to them. This type of thinking is so sickening when we can clearly see the corruptive influence of private industry on government, and the tyranny of monopolies in our own lives.
Big words from Lex about cheating considering his admission to using Cliff Notes to get thru AP classes in high school. Perhaps he's proving his guest's point about the sliding scale of ethics
The CIA looking for morally flexible people reminds me of the guards at Aushwitz. The Schutzstaffel was undoubtably looking for the "morally flexible". Perhaps that was the reason for getting rid of the Jews, the morally inflexible.
About time someone said that executive power over intelligence organizations is a problem. I’m sick of presidents acting like the good people of the CIA work for them and not the other way around. Preach Brother!
Everyone is Ethically flexible? Thats a new one to me. I thought socrates proved that false 2 thousand years ago. But seriously, he says that followed by the most ludicrously simplistic example of ethical flexibility of a person who says "they would never hurt anyone". Pretty obvious to anyone that it would be conditional. However you will certainly find situations were the moral values of individuals is consistent. Using his example of protecting family members. Many parents would protect there children from death no matter the context.
The advertising business is founded and thrives on defining and modulating morality and ethics. Needs must be met or advertising fails as a business. A world as it is, currently.
@@edwardsmith9644 his fide rating is 2199 , well below Bobby Fischer's 2785 , below super Grandmaster at 2700, below Grandmaster at 2500, below 2300 International Master strength
@@roxyknight4909 That was his last rating. At some point in his chess career it was in 2500’s. I read it in an old article about Wall street hiring high-rated chess players.
The natural next step.. get Thiel on the podcast.
Thiel won't accept.
@@dfcg2958 why
Excellent point!
@@jon9428 @Jon Thiel follows the Straussian method of communication, of not revealing much, communicating in esoteric ways to specific audiences in carefully written speeches, he does not wish to publicize himself neither reach for wide audience.
@@dfcg2958 Interesting, I'll have to read more about this
Public Accountability? CIA has Public Accountability??? Can anyone provide me with an example where the CIA was actually held publicly accountable beyond a Senate hearing where they seem to not know the answers to any of the questions?
@@jon8004 I believe he asked for an example?
They hold accountability for all the drugs and weapons they sell; how else would they accurately divide the profits
@@jon8004 Yeah, so I still need an example
They never heard of MK ULTRA? 😅
@@jon8004 lol, BY WHO?
Get Whitney Webb on to show his relationship to JD Vance and how he got him picked as Trump's VP pick.
The fact so many of us want this shows we ate engaged!
I'll be surprised if anything she says leads to anything substantive. She's red string guy.
Aha. So THAT's why I have a visceral dislike of JD Vance ....
It honestly doesn't even matter.
YES!
Moral flexibility otherwise known as sociopathy. Ffs.
I still don't understand why retired CIA employees are even allowed to still have security clearances. If a private employee leaves a job, that employee loses access to the company's private files, so why wouldn't it be the same for ex-CIA employees?
The security clearance doesn’t give you access to CIA files. It just tags you as someone who can be trusted. So on one hand Trump is funding private operations, and at the same time cutting off anyone who is qualified to be employed by those private organizations.
all classified information operates on a "need to know" basis. Just because you hold a security clearance doesn't mean you have any access to that Intel.
Ex? LMFAOOO
Because people who work for government contractors need security clearances to do their jobs.
How do you think Lockheed or Boeing employees work on military hardware?
@@sciencecompliance235 This is the trade off to keep the Military Industry Complex tied to US interests. The alternative, which I think Bustamante is kind of soft selling, and Trump was promoting, is a world in which independent military & intelligence corps simply sell to the highest bidder. Which is another way of saying “mercenaries.” Of the two options, the former still seems less repulsive and dangerous. Somewhat.
I'm sure Alex Karp would be happy to be on the pod. Really smart, deeply philosophical man.
One day…one day…
Would love that!
Also crazy
Yes never Peter Thiel
Get him on and Peter on separately. Then get them all together with elon to discuss shit
"CIA hires people on a spectrum on our ability to be morally flexible...ethically flexible" Uh...Yeah. And that's just entry level.
Lex needs to have John Kiriakou so he can destroy everything this man is saying lol.
No shortage of prospects. It's also the requirement for bomber crews, fighter pilots, cannon cockers, retirement fund managers and associated bankers, FBI, NSA, private Intelligence agencies, multinatilnal CEO's & CFO's, labor union leaders, teachers union leaders, and, of course, politicians & judges.
Then after a few years of vetting only the true sociopaths remain.
@@dbeelee8564 I have no idea what labor unions are doing in this list
@@JADiaz10 both accounts can be true btw. He can’t “destroy everything this guy is saying” because what he is saying is probably true. The CIA is big bro, it’s a catch all term
Let’s get Alex Karp or Thiel on the podcast
Flexible ethics is like flexible truths
Truth does not exist
@@ms-vf4mlit absolutely does
We are in a post truth era.
I heard two things I disagreed with in the first few minutes. DCGS (in-house) products were not better than Palantir, quite the opposite actually, and Peter Thiel was never offered a cabinet position.
Honestly, Peter Thiels is also a really crazy person. His versions of society and humanity are frightening.
He strictly follows Rene Girard it’s a theory and is a trained contrarian it’s a public act. Listen carefully and make your own decision but know Peter speaks the truth and his mind so use his words wisely 😊 he is an insider billionaire
At least on other podcasts he’s been extremely blunt and levels with audience and weighs both sides. Far more refreshing to me than the psychopathic fantasy vision that other billionaires like zuck and gates try to sell that you KNOW they don’t actually believe themselves.
Yes. And he just funded Vance as Trumps VP Pick.
This guy is still on the clock
100%
thank you.
The CIA owns your ass and your soul...forever.
Palantir is a defacto government agency anyway
FASCISM - GOVT & CORPORATIONS acting as one.
It's here already
Finally lex talks about thiel, I’ve been following him for a while now
Lex, Please look at getting the CEO of Palantir on Alexander Karp... Incredible story behind the founding of Palantir, but also incredible story that they have been a the forefront of Big Data for 18+ years... Alex is also a very cool character with a cult following, would be a great episode.
Karp and Lex would be perfect pairing
You people are the exact smart dumb guy archetype. What. The. Fuck.
About a dozen newspapers, mags, etc. have stories either calling Peter Thiel a fascist or approaching being one.
The establishment being against someone is usually a good marker that they’re saying something important.
@@kungfoochicken08Child like thinking. Work harder. Do some considerable analysis.
@@ibelieveinaccuracy.fact-ch5942 It’s a rule of thumb, not a substitute for deliberate analysis.
@@kungfoochicken08 Yes, it’s a very lazy rule of thumb employed by people who think slogans on corn flakes packets are philosophy. The homeless guy at the corner also rages about the system but you would ignore him. Thiel has the basis fascistic ideas, so did Hitler, in one case the German establishment listened to the deranged nut job and in Thiels case hopefully he will fade away. In other words do some more analysis.
@@kungfoochicken08pretty sure they all said the same thing about Hitler. Clearly they should be immediately dismissed.
Peter Thiel is the Man in the High Castle.
The gay German billionaire living in the United States who doesn't like paying US taxes...He HATES the billionaire tax...What is this clown doing in the US?
Fail
Ooooooooooooh!!!! Thats a good one. On the spot!
Lex is extremely naive to believe that the director of the CIA or anyone in the CIA has "public accountability"
So, if 'flexible ethics' is required to function in a wider world where unethical behaviour outcompetes ethical, this creates an unvirtuous circle of incentivised unethical competition where, if everyone else is unethical, one has to flex to even more unethical tactics to remain competitive. This is perfectly in line with game theory and the ethics of capitalism, and links with how power corrupts and ends justifying means. And all by shaddowy organisations overseen by politicians supposedly giving oversight in our best interests. But how is this unvirtuous cycle of increasingly unethical behaviour in our interests?
What do you mean by ‘ethical’ and ‘unethical’
What do you meant by virtuous
@@roykeane1922 Please refer to Stanford encyclopedia of Philosophy, these concepts are thoroughly described and critiqued.
You are spot on
@@roykeane1922 If you don't understand those words and how deep they run in philosophy and politics man, you're going to be a lifetime behind any part of this conversation.
@@brucekendall9873 I think he was just trying to be antagonistic and make Michelle Lewis explain and define those words so he can then try and pick her argument appart.
He didn't have enough ammo to cherry-pick and misrepresent, so he asked for more inputs to play with.
Narcissist tricks.
Yea let’s corporatize our intelligence agencies especially since they are so good at being intelligent and because less oversight which can really hinder an intelligence agency then they can do whatever they want.
done. it's called: In-Q-tel
There’s already no effective oversight. The last time anyone tried to hold them accountable was Senator Feinstein’s investigation of the CIA torture program. The CIA hacked into the computers of the Chair of the oversight committee to keep on eye on what they were doing. The whole thing is a joke.
The NSA has the same shit. Hayden lied to Congress about the NSA spying on literally every single American. He still walks around uncharged. The programs have been expanded, and officials still can’t point to any cases where these bulk collection programs saved lives.
The CIA guy with the barrette made it on the Lex Friedman podcast. Imagine my shock 😂
Cia is every where. They are the vatican army the german thill also
2003 - 2004: The NSA's 'Life-Log' becomes 'Face-Book'! The Year the government subcontracted spying to tech start-sup's!
Imagine thinking the CIA FBI etc have ANY accountability to anyone on anything
The CIA are accountable to the mafia bosses who created them:
the central banking criminal syndicate
But can you effectively show accountability in secret agencies? I don’t think one can. Trump did not care about disincentives for agents.This is laughable. Trump is a moron.
the CIA has public accountability? huh?
There’s not enough hours in a day for me to watch all these amazing videos
Peter Thiel would be my number one ask for the podcast. PLEASE
ALEX KARP
Interesting site always fascinating guests with deeper insights.
"Without the public accountability that directors of CIA have"...yeah ok. These orgs are probably at the top when it comes to having power without accountability.
Morally flexible and for profit business… the last two things that should ever be associated with intelligence agencies. No way either of those end up doing is good as a country in the long run.
was not the FBI formed out of the Pinkerton’s private agency when the governmwnt decided it needed to nationalize the intelligence and private detective industry to a certain extent?
The remedy against private Intel sources.
Use the unbiased FBI/CIA/DOJ that would never abuse their power. Never ever.
Soo intelligent that the intelligence don't know what happened to building 7. Nobody needs propaganda we need facts. We need to investigate cia,fbi and mosaad. Extream zonionst terrorists did this everybody knows. Please read the ((clean break)). And call on your congress shut down these three major domestic terrorists organization. All this to hunt down and track down Americans for political reasons. Does anybody believe this bullshit. Everybody knows no investigation will happen because of the black mail, what a joke pretending to have checks and balances. Please go read about dictatorships they are all run by lies , propaganda, and intelligence . No constitution in this banana republic
Mining humans and their information is now the biggest industry in the world.
Anonymity is dead.
Do they know who Alex Karp is from Palantir?
The problem is that when you take away the private industry incentive from senior officials leaving, there's no reason to enter the CIA in the first place. So many CIA employees understand this incentive. After a few decades, you get rewarded with highly paid work in private industry. That incentivizes people to join the CIA and stay in service for decades! This is how public service works. That's why Trump's decision was terrible. And if you think that everyone who enters the CIA and is competent in the CIA is completely satisfied and incentivized by the knowledge that they're doing a service to their country, then you're hopelessly naive.
You make it sound like they don’t get paid ? And yes people are motivated towards service over a Gucci job after you leave.
@@RedTeufel not that much. CIA or Military make peanuts compared to what their civilian counterparts make. Mercenaries in Iraq easily made a few times what soldiers make.
Cia makes over 150k pshhh
@@GODHATESADOPTION how much do you think an equally qualified civilian operator makes?
@@rdalge ohhh they would get fired, nothing. CIA are welfare queens. We need to defund.
I would love to see Peter Thiel on the podcast
Sociopaths are always hard to deal with though. They are enormously interesting and have an outsized effect on the world. But people often report that it's like dealing with a Velociraptor. No one wants to get eaten.
@@letsburn00 bruh what
@@tkokflux6322 This comment is about Peter Theil. I talked about Sociopaths. The link is clear. Either Lex plays it extremely cool, or he doesn't have the ability to deal with a sociopath.
@@letsburn00 common sociopath W
@@tkokflux6322Peter Thiel is a sociopath is his point I believe.
Successful people never realize how much of their success is just pure luck
holy hell, I have tried to explain this to people so many times. This is succinct and welcome, a perfect explanation of our issues and some solutions.
I would also love to see an interview with Alex Karp. Call his people Lex.
Was so close..to hearing Military Industrial Complex🙀 Pretty big word to jump over guys..come’on Lex, stay focused
Anything Peter Theil says should be tossed in the trash.
Why?
@@CyY-vo3nbbecause randomer #67548 aka thomaswrzalinski7454 said so!
@@CyY-vo3nb Conflict of interest. He is a deep state ghoul. And should not be trusted.
@@CyY-vo3nb because he in fact , trash .
Acting in self-defence of your family is not “morally flexible”. That’s moral behavior. This guys has no clue about ethics…
Thats not the point he was making. What he was saying is that the moral flexibility comes in what the person can perceive as "self defense", in order to justify their actions. There's an entire spectrum there between reactive and proactive behavior to threats (real or perceived), and each persons inflection point for when that crosses over into immoral behavior is different. Think of "killing Hitler as a baby" as an example.
@@davidoconnor1773 self-defence by definition is a response to violence. It’s not the initiation of force but a response to it. It’s pretty straightforward. No scenario would involve killing baby Hitler. That’s just what morally corrupt spooks try to convince you otherwise.
🤦♂️🤦♂️🤦♂️🤦♂️
I’m done with it the chaos created by our government agencies the misinformation and the lack of transparency that has been denied on various levels of security and accountability for my immediate family and myself . The cover up was insane and has been heightened by exposure to fraudulent practices as well as fraudulent entities that claim to serve the US government. Reparations need to begin immediately and more than apology is expected plus the return of my vehicle and assets.
Getting mad at when senior people retire early to better their lives, but let Republicans and his friends enrich themselves further.
You just made that up
He ju a t said they purposly hire narcasstic / psychopathic people.
And nobody batted an eye.
LMAO
Try again in english
Thinthread was an in house NSA system that would have flagged every participant in the 9/11 terrorist attack that was taken off line 30 days prior in favor of a Contractors inferior product that failed to flag any of them. The man who made that decision went to work for the company He gave that contract to when He left. No one ever charged that man with any crime.
You need Peter thiel or karp on this podcast
Please INVITE Mr. Bustamante again. Very perceptive and intelligent man.
Cambridge Analytica is analyzing this conversation.
thiel should absolutely be on the podcast.
Blake Master is a FRENEMY to Peter, It is Peter who must Run, WE NEED TO DRAFT HIM!
Have John Kiriakou on.
Lex won’t do that.
RNC blew me off as no one to upset the machine
What’s Eric’s opinion?
That
Wasta isn't social capital that's spent or conserved the way Bustamante is using the term, it literally translates to connection. That's like your uncle on the police force, your brother on the hiring committee.
CIA and fbi and IRS needs to be abolished or at least lose there top secret capabilities. They do way more harm then help. No reason they should be able Todo illegal shit and not have to awsner for it. But they put fear in everyone and tells us they need Todo this.
This man's language is so clear and concise it terrifies me.
The one thing Andrew is glossing over regarding the revoking of security clearances was the punitive nature in Trump's reasoning for revoking them. He was revoking them from those who were retired and speaking ill of him.
Why the photo of a YOUNG Thiel
Get Whitney Webb and Mark Goodwin on next!
When you look back, 30, 40 years...
Please…the security clearances he was acting on pulling had to do with punishing those he deemed “not loyal”, it’s not more complicated than that.
So palantir play no role in this?
Like another commenter said, PLEASE GET WHITNEY WEBB ON! She's the GOAT when it comes down to discussing this topic.
Thiel is a complex man. Get him on the podcast
Nothing complex about psychopath
Remember Thiel is a citizen of Germany ,USA and NZ.
Really 😅Complex 😴
Complexity Complexion. ? 🐥
@@tyd8077Peter Thiel studied under Rene Girard, which already says a lot. Go watch the debate between him and Eric Schmidt where he absolutely destroys him and the Silicon Valley technocrat class. Listen to any of his keynote speeches at college graduations- he genuinely believes in real, tangible evil as a force driving the elites (like actual satanic unseen forces guiding them).
He’s a complex man.
We really need Thiel or Alex Karp on the show
And this, ladies and gentlemen, is why the constitution doesn't allow for the CIA, FBI or any other federal alphabet agency.
Where does it say that?
Where in the Constitution or even Federalist Papers does it say or imply this?
@@alextromler6407 the constitution is granted only the powers specifically enumerated in the constitution
Rivage companies aren't incentivized to be innovative, nor create the best product, those things are risky, and require more sunk costs. That's why most innovations are publicly funded
Always wondered what happened when Chris Kattan left SNL. This character is even better than Mango!
Holy cow I didn't catch the resemblance. On his own channel he is filmed from a different angle. With me enthralled with his teeth. He maybe be better than Mango, but no one is better than Azrael Abyss.
So after serving 40 years in the military and making peanuts doing it, and missing every kid’s birthday, it’s wrong to take a private sector job where you’re well paid for your expertise?
@@diogenes4124 ok, so instead of joining to serve, you’d prefer only power hungry psychopaths who just want to feel powerful, knowing they’ll be dead broke, and unemployable afterwards?
@@diogenes4124 I think you shot yourself in the foot. Your asking if a smart man would a great paying job that requires no skill or achievement ? And answer to that is YES because it already happens all the time. I assure you that the Hardvard graduates all aim for great paying careers...
Also, Robinson didn't comment about the reasons for serving in a position of power with low pay (like police or CIA). He simply asked WHY IT IS WRONG FOR A LOW PAID PUBLIC EMPLOYEE to EARN A HIGH PAYING JOB AFTER DECADES OF SERVICE. 🤔
No. But leave your clearance when you go
If we don’t change leadership I fear our sons and daughters may be drafted into an overseas police action.
lol this guys response to everything is "naturally" completely in denial of the orgs history.
crazy that just anyone has access to amazing data lite photos that can be taken on a daily basis…
Chomsky's busy AF just interv. Left and right , two a days😂, but you should have him next to counter this gov. operative
Chomsky sounds like one of those menopausal neolib SSRI-moms on The View nowadays, interviewing him is elder abuse. Everything he says now may as well have come out of the WEF and CIA.
Chomsky is a Russian gov operative
"Everybody is ethically flexible" That's cute.
And stupid. EVERY person in the world more or less believes in self defense.
This guy is so wrong about private industry fostering ethical behavior, it's not even funny. In the long-term, it _could_ be in the company's interest to act ethically, or, and this is a big "or" here, it is in the interest of the company to seek monopoly power so that they can bend their customers over a barrel and not have to be answerable to them. This type of thinking is so sickening when we can clearly see the corruptive influence of private industry on government, and the tyranny of monopolies in our own lives.
Big words from Lex about cheating considering his admission to using Cliff Notes to get thru AP classes in high school. Perhaps he's proving his guest's point about the sliding scale of ethics
U.S. Government appointing Accelerationists like Thiel... is easily one of the dumbest things possible.
your Everyday spy web sounds like an ad for a cheap fortune telling scam bag living in a cardboard in some alley
The CIA looking for morally flexible people reminds me of the guards at Aushwitz. The Schutzstaffel was undoubtably looking for the "morally flexible". Perhaps that was the reason for getting rid of the Jews, the morally inflexible.
Lack of accountability leads to impropriety in free markets
Lex should be the next Batman
Please have Stephen C Meyer on.
9:52 Gramscian Cultural Hegemony in action.
Excellent.
This guy lost all credibility when he throws snoden or assange under the bus,, that is serious
Man this guy is smart! Knows how to think
And communicate.
And communicate.
Thanks so much Lex for doing this interview: I wish someone like Andrew could have explained all these little nuances to me years ago
Would love to see Thiel on Lex someday.... make it happen!
is 91 1 a insider job?
well, this topic was indeed necessary
About time someone said that executive power over intelligence organizations is a problem. I’m sick of presidents acting like the good people of the CIA work for them and not the other way around. Preach Brother!
Everyone is Ethically flexible? Thats a new one to me. I thought socrates proved that false 2 thousand years ago. But seriously, he says that followed by the most ludicrously simplistic example of ethical flexibility of a person who says "they would never hurt anyone". Pretty obvious to anyone that it would be conditional. However you will certainly find situations were the moral values of individuals is consistent. Using his example of protecting family members. Many parents would protect there children from death no matter the context.
How you discuss this subject for more than 13 min and never mention Crowdstrike? Shawn Henry? Alperovitch?
Hey Lex, get Alex Karp on the podcast ! would love to hear more about his view on his matter.
Alex Karp is ostracising every company, country and human on the planet 🌏 🤣🤣🤣
The advertising business is founded and thrives on defining and modulating morality and ethics. Needs must be met or advertising fails as a business. A world as it is, currently.
Peter Theil = a gay man who wants to make it illegal to be gay....Gotta love Theil, great guy
Because it doesn't matter what the laws are.. they won't apply to certain people
Peter Thiel’s chess rating is almost as high as Bobby Fischer’s was at his peak. Evil genius potential.
That's not even close to true. The evil part probably quite correct , as he is connected to some very evil people
@@roxyknight4909 My relies keep getting deleted for some reason. But what i said is true. His games are available online.
@@roxyknight4909 I guess it didn’t like my reference to a website. Search his name + chess.
@@edwardsmith9644 his fide rating is 2199 , well below Bobby Fischer's 2785 , below super Grandmaster at 2700, below Grandmaster at 2500, below 2300 International Master strength
@@roxyknight4909 That was his last rating. At some point in his chess career it was in 2500’s. I read it in an old article about Wall street hiring high-rated chess players.
Gosh....
So glad to know.