Peter Thiel and the CIA | Andrew Bustamante and Lex Fridman

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  • @Mutual_Information
    @Mutual_Information 2 роки тому +785

    The natural next step.. get Thiel on the podcast.

    • @dfcg2958
      @dfcg2958 2 роки тому +32

      Thiel won't accept.

    • @jon9428
      @jon9428 2 роки тому +6

      @@dfcg2958 why

    • @josephclark5414
      @josephclark5414 2 роки тому +3

      Excellent point!

    • @dfcg2958
      @dfcg2958 2 роки тому +54

      @@jon9428 @Jon Thiel follows the Straussian method of communication, of not revealing much, communicating in esoteric ways to specific audiences in carefully written speeches, he does not wish to publicize himself neither reach for wide audience.

    • @jon9428
      @jon9428 2 роки тому +1

      @@dfcg2958 Interesting, I'll have to read more about this

  • @darthvader2980
    @darthvader2980 2 роки тому +325

    Public Accountability? CIA has Public Accountability??? Can anyone provide me with an example where the CIA was actually held publicly accountable beyond a Senate hearing where they seem to not know the answers to any of the questions?

    • @rfrakctured
      @rfrakctured 2 роки тому +32

      ​@@jon8004 I believe he asked for an example?

    • @fatmunch6318
      @fatmunch6318 2 роки тому +24

      They hold accountability for all the drugs and weapons they sell; how else would they accurately divide the profits

    • @darthvader2980
      @darthvader2980 2 роки тому +12

      @@jon8004 Yeah, so I still need an example

    • @boukm3n
      @boukm3n 2 роки тому +6

      They never heard of MK ULTRA? 😅

    • @nudgeunit
      @nudgeunit 2 роки тому +1

      @@jon8004 lol, BY WHO?

  • @traviswall1982
    @traviswall1982 2 місяці тому +81

    Get Whitney Webb on to show his relationship to JD Vance and how he got him picked as Trump's VP pick.

    • @DjediVibrations
      @DjediVibrations 2 місяці тому +7

      The fact so many of us want this shows we ate engaged!

    • @TheMapman01
      @TheMapman01 2 місяці тому +4

      I'll be surprised if anything she says leads to anything substantive. She's red string guy.

    • @susanpockett4314
      @susanpockett4314 2 місяці тому +4

      Aha. So THAT's why I have a visceral dislike of JD Vance ....

    • @DonJDawson
      @DonJDawson Місяць тому

      It honestly doesn't even matter.

    • @Pau11Wa11
      @Pau11Wa11 Місяць тому +1

      YES!

  • @hammyhorrorhead
    @hammyhorrorhead 6 місяців тому +34

    Moral flexibility otherwise known as sociopathy. Ffs.

  • @flcnhvy
    @flcnhvy 2 роки тому +143

    I'm sure Alex Karp would be happy to be on the pod. Really smart, deeply philosophical man.

    • @mattreed656
      @mattreed656 2 роки тому +1

      One day…one day…

    • @undergroundATx
      @undergroundATx 2 роки тому +1

      Would love that!

    • @BIGGOODBOY
      @BIGGOODBOY 2 роки тому +5

      Also crazy

    • @Starlightlive
      @Starlightlive 2 роки тому

      Yes never Peter Thiel

    • @zaydevans2077
      @zaydevans2077 2 роки тому

      Get him on and Peter on separately. Then get them all together with elon to discuss shit

  • @ConcernedCitizen5514
    @ConcernedCitizen5514 2 роки тому +180

    I still don't understand why retired CIA employees are even allowed to still have security clearances. If a private employee leaves a job, that employee loses access to the company's private files, so why wouldn't it be the same for ex-CIA employees?

    • @rdalge
      @rdalge 2 роки тому

      The security clearance doesn’t give you access to CIA files. It just tags you as someone who can be trusted. So on one hand Trump is funding private operations, and at the same time cutting off anyone who is qualified to be employed by those private organizations.

    • @danielhesson7866
      @danielhesson7866 2 роки тому +31

      all classified information operates on a "need to know" basis. Just because you hold a security clearance doesn't mean you have any access to that Intel.

    • @jd43tv56
      @jd43tv56 2 роки тому +37

      Ex? LMFAOOO

    • @sciencecompliance235
      @sciencecompliance235 2 роки тому +13

      Because people who work for government contractors need security clearances to do their jobs.
      How do you think Lockheed or Boeing employees work on military hardware?

    • @danakerjbam
      @danakerjbam 2 роки тому +11

      @@sciencecompliance235 This is the trade off to keep the Military Industry Complex tied to US interests. The alternative, which I think Bustamante is kind of soft selling, and Trump was promoting, is a world in which independent military & intelligence corps simply sell to the highest bidder. Which is another way of saying “mercenaries.” Of the two options, the former still seems less repulsive and dangerous. Somewhat.

  • @Tripple_Threatt92
    @Tripple_Threatt92 2 роки тому +12

    Finally lex talks about thiel, I’ve been following him for a while now

  • @christophertisdale3365
    @christophertisdale3365 2 роки тому +8

    I heard two things I disagreed with in the first few minutes. DCGS (in-house) products were not better than Palantir, quite the opposite actually, and Peter Thiel was never offered a cabinet position.

  • @cperez1000
    @cperez1000 2 роки тому +29

    Flexible ethics is like flexible truths

    • @ms-vf4ml
      @ms-vf4ml 2 роки тому +2

      Truth does not exist

    • @generalwasteman
      @generalwasteman 2 місяці тому

      @@ms-vf4mlit absolutely does

    • @benf1111
      @benf1111 2 місяці тому

      We are in a post truth era.

  • @joeym2197
    @joeym2197 2 роки тому +37

    This guy is still on the clock

  • @digitalfly772
    @digitalfly772 2 місяці тому +13

    The CIA guy with the barrette made it on the Lex Friedman podcast. Imagine my shock 😂

  • @slouischarlesYT
    @slouischarlesYT 2 роки тому +127

    "CIA hires people on a spectrum on our ability to be morally flexible...ethically flexible" Uh...Yeah. And that's just entry level.

    • @JADiaz10
      @JADiaz10 2 роки тому +16

      Lex needs to have John Kiriakou so he can destroy everything this man is saying lol.

    • @dbeelee8564
      @dbeelee8564 2 роки тому +10

      No shortage of prospects. It's also the requirement for bomber crews, fighter pilots, cannon cockers, retirement fund managers and associated bankers, FBI, NSA, private Intelligence agencies, multinatilnal CEO's & CFO's, labor union leaders, teachers union leaders, and, of course, politicians & judges.

    • @billwilson3665
      @billwilson3665 2 роки тому

      Then after a few years of vetting only the true sociopaths remain.

    • @HairEEck
      @HairEEck 2 роки тому +4

      @@dbeelee8564 I have no idea what labor unions are doing in this list

    • @tastytoast4576
      @tastytoast4576 2 роки тому

      @@JADiaz10 both accounts can be true btw. He can’t “destroy everything this guy is saying” because what he is saying is probably true. The CIA is big bro, it’s a catch all term

  • @Jawwwn
    @Jawwwn 2 роки тому +63

    Let’s get Alex Karp or Thiel on the podcast

  • @lutaayam
    @lutaayam 2 роки тому +17

    There’s not enough hours in a day for me to watch all these amazing videos

  • @davidash2727
    @davidash2727 Рік тому +2

    Interesting site always fascinating guests with deeper insights.

  • @BoulderMTBR
    @BoulderMTBR Рік тому +19

    FASCISM - GOVT & CORPORATIONS acting as one.

  • @filmerd
    @filmerd 2 роки тому +28

    Peter Thiel would be my number one ask for the podcast. PLEASE

  • @antoineroccamora
    @antoineroccamora 2 роки тому +3

    Was so close..to hearing Military Industrial Complex🙀 Pretty big word to jump over guys..come’on Lex, stay focused

  • @61757
    @61757 2 роки тому +11

    Palantir is a defacto government agency anyway

  • @modularbuildingsaustralia
    @modularbuildingsaustralia 2 роки тому +76

    Lex, Please look at getting the CEO of Palantir on Alexander Karp... Incredible story behind the founding of Palantir, but also incredible story that they have been a the forefront of Big Data for 18+ years... Alex is also a very cool character with a cult following, would be a great episode.

    • @turkGOLF
      @turkGOLF 2 роки тому +1

      Karp and Lex would be perfect pairing

    • @aibrainlet8041
      @aibrainlet8041 Місяць тому

      You people are the exact smart dumb guy archetype. What. The. Fuck.

  • @ronkrate609
    @ronkrate609 Рік тому +12

    About a dozen newspapers, mags, etc. have stories either calling Peter Thiel a fascist or approaching being one.

    • @kungfoochicken08
      @kungfoochicken08 7 місяців тому +6

      The establishment being against someone is usually a good marker that they’re saying something important.

    • @ibelieveinaccuracy.fact-ch5942
      @ibelieveinaccuracy.fact-ch5942 5 місяців тому +7

      @@kungfoochicken08Child like thinking. Work harder. Do some considerable analysis.

    • @kungfoochicken08
      @kungfoochicken08 5 місяців тому +1

      @@ibelieveinaccuracy.fact-ch5942 It’s a rule of thumb, not a substitute for deliberate analysis.

    • @ibelieveinaccuracy.fact-ch5942
      @ibelieveinaccuracy.fact-ch5942 5 місяців тому

      @@kungfoochicken08 Yes, it’s a very lazy rule of thumb employed by people who think slogans on corn flakes packets are philosophy. The homeless guy at the corner also rages about the system but you would ignore him. Thiel has the basis fascistic ideas, so did Hitler, in one case the German establishment listened to the deranged nut job and in Thiels case hopefully he will fade away. In other words do some more analysis.

    • @CMA418
      @CMA418 2 місяці тому +1

      @@kungfoochicken08pretty sure they all said the same thing about Hitler. Clearly they should be immediately dismissed.

  • @jcool9647
    @jcool9647 Рік тому +16

    Honestly, Peter Thiels is also a really crazy person. His versions of society and humanity are frightening.

    • @Starlightlive
      @Starlightlive 7 місяців тому

      He strictly follows Rene Girard it’s a theory and is a trained contrarian it’s a public act. Listen carefully and make your own decision but know Peter speaks the truth and his mind so use his words wisely 😊 he is an insider billionaire

    • @cmt6997
      @cmt6997 7 місяців тому +2

      At least on other podcasts he’s been extremely blunt and levels with audience and weighs both sides. Far more refreshing to me than the psychopathic fantasy vision that other billionaires like zuck and gates try to sell that you KNOW they don’t actually believe themselves.

    • @h.neubert8770
      @h.neubert8770 3 місяці тому +1

      Yes. And he just funded Vance as Trumps VP Pick.

  • @bhavikpatel4817
    @bhavikpatel4817 2 роки тому +5

    "Without the public accountability that directors of CIA have"...yeah ok. These orgs are probably at the top when it comes to having power without accountability.

  • @Bigdg2011
    @Bigdg2011 2 роки тому +57

    Imagine thinking the CIA FBI etc have ANY accountability to anyone on anything

    • @AlexRyan
      @AlexRyan Рік тому

      The CIA are accountable to the mafia bosses who created them:
      the central banking criminal syndicate

    • @rebeccaweil1
      @rebeccaweil1 2 місяці тому

      But can you effectively show accountability in secret agencies? I don’t think one can. Trump did not care about disincentives for agents.This is laughable. Trump is a moron.

  • @sojourndrummond1846
    @sojourndrummond1846 2 роки тому +28

    Yea let’s corporatize our intelligence agencies especially since they are so good at being intelligent and because less oversight which can really hinder an intelligence agency then they can do whatever they want.

    • @cheesypuffs1342
      @cheesypuffs1342 2 роки тому

      done. it's called: In-Q-tel

    • @kungfoochicken08
      @kungfoochicken08 7 місяців тому

      There’s already no effective oversight. The last time anyone tried to hold them accountable was Senator Feinstein’s investigation of the CIA torture program. The CIA hacked into the computers of the Chair of the oversight committee to keep on eye on what they were doing. The whole thing is a joke.
      The NSA has the same shit. Hayden lied to Congress about the NSA spying on literally every single American. He still walks around uncharged. The programs have been expanded, and officials still can’t point to any cases where these bulk collection programs saved lives.

  • @curious_one1156
    @curious_one1156 2 місяці тому +25

    Peter Thiel is the Man in the High Castle.

    • @rotfogel
      @rotfogel 2 місяці тому

      The gay German billionaire living in the United States who doesn't like paying US taxes...He HATES the billionaire tax...What is this clown doing in the US?

    • @DonJDawson
      @DonJDawson Місяць тому

      Fail

    • @lakitawright6003
      @lakitawright6003 Місяць тому

      Ooooooooooooh!!!! Thats a good one. On the spot!

  • @sk857117
    @sk857117 2 роки тому +11

    I would also love to see an interview with Alex Karp. Call his people Lex.

  • @georgetrujillo9618
    @georgetrujillo9618 2 роки тому +13

    holy hell, I have tried to explain this to people so many times. This is succinct and welcome, a perfect explanation of our issues and some solutions.

  • @chrisdodt
    @chrisdodt 2 роки тому +23

    the CIA has public accountability? huh?

  • @ConfucianScholar
    @ConfucianScholar Місяць тому +6

    Lex is extremely naive to believe that the director of the CIA or anyone in the CIA has "public accountability"

  • @radiofreealbemuth8540
    @radiofreealbemuth8540 2 роки тому +4

    The remedy against private Intel sources.
    Use the unbiased FBI/CIA/DOJ that would never abuse their power. Never ever.

    • @saberkhodr1103
      @saberkhodr1103 2 місяці тому

      Soo intelligent that the intelligence don't know what happened to building 7. Nobody needs propaganda we need facts. We need to investigate cia,fbi and mosaad. Extream zonionst terrorists did this everybody knows. Please read the ((clean break)). And call on your congress shut down these three major domestic terrorists organization. All this to hunt down and track down Americans for political reasons. Does anybody believe this bullshit. Everybody knows no investigation will happen because of the black mail, what a joke pretending to have checks and balances. Please go read about dictatorships they are all run by lies , propaganda, and intelligence . No constitution in this banana republic

  • @joanfrisinabowles1369
    @joanfrisinabowles1369 2 роки тому +1

    Please INVITE Mr. Bustamante again. Very perceptive and intelligent man.

  • @michellelewis3063
    @michellelewis3063 2 роки тому +57

    So, if 'flexible ethics' is required to function in a wider world where unethical behaviour outcompetes ethical, this creates an unvirtuous circle of incentivised unethical competition where, if everyone else is unethical, one has to flex to even more unethical tactics to remain competitive. This is perfectly in line with game theory and the ethics of capitalism, and links with how power corrupts and ends justifying means. And all by shaddowy organisations overseen by politicians supposedly giving oversight in our best interests. But how is this unvirtuous cycle of increasingly unethical behaviour in our interests?

    • @roykeane1922
      @roykeane1922 2 роки тому +2

      What do you mean by ‘ethical’ and ‘unethical’
      What do you meant by virtuous

    • @michellelewis3063
      @michellelewis3063 2 роки тому +13

      @@roykeane1922 Please refer to Stanford encyclopedia of Philosophy, these concepts are thoroughly described and critiqued.

    • @brucekendall9873
      @brucekendall9873 2 роки тому +1

      You are spot on

    • @brucekendall9873
      @brucekendall9873 2 роки тому +5

      @@roykeane1922 If you don't understand those words and how deep they run in philosophy and politics man, you're going to be a lifetime behind any part of this conversation.

    • @FrenchCanadianGuy
      @FrenchCanadianGuy 2 роки тому +3

      @@brucekendall9873 I think he was just trying to be antagonistic and make Michelle Lewis explain and define those words so he can then try and pick her argument appart.
      He didn't have enough ammo to cherry-pick and misrepresent, so he asked for more inputs to play with.
      Narcissist tricks.

  • @pageek3487
    @pageek3487 2 роки тому +3

    Morally flexible and for profit business… the last two things that should ever be associated with intelligence agencies. No way either of those end up doing is good as a country in the long run.

  • @Pau11Wa11
    @Pau11Wa11 Місяць тому +2

    Like another commenter said, PLEASE GET WHITNEY WEBB ON! She's the GOAT when it comes down to discussing this topic.

  • @liberty-matrix
    @liberty-matrix Рік тому +3

    2003 - 2004: The NSA's 'Life-Log' becomes 'Face-Book'! The Year the government subcontracted spying to tech start-sup's!

  • @15nate
    @15nate 2 роки тому +23

    I would love to see Peter Thiel on the podcast

    • @letsburn00
      @letsburn00 2 роки тому +11

      Sociopaths are always hard to deal with though. They are enormously interesting and have an outsized effect on the world. But people often report that it's like dealing with a Velociraptor. No one wants to get eaten.

    • @tkokflux6322
      @tkokflux6322 Рік тому

      @@letsburn00 bruh what

    • @letsburn00
      @letsburn00 Рік тому +1

      @@tkokflux6322 This comment is about Peter Theil. I talked about Sociopaths. The link is clear. Either Lex plays it extremely cool, or he doesn't have the ability to deal with a sociopath.

    • @tkokflux6322
      @tkokflux6322 Рік тому

      @@letsburn00 common sociopath W

    • @ledaswan5990
      @ledaswan5990 2 місяці тому +3

      @@tkokflux6322Peter Thiel is a sociopath is his point I believe.

  • @kyleredfearn96
    @kyleredfearn96 2 місяці тому +2

    Get Whitney Webb and Mark Goodwin on next!

  • @cameronvincent
    @cameronvincent 2 роки тому +4

    You need Peter thiel or karp on this podcast

  • @jesseyoung7855
    @jesseyoung7855 Рік тому

    Rivage companies aren't incentivized to be innovative, nor create the best product, those things are risky, and require more sunk costs. That's why most innovations are publicly funded

  • @ronsilva7394
    @ronsilva7394 Місяць тому +1

    If we don’t change leadership I fear our sons and daughters may be drafted into an overseas police action.

  • @61757
    @61757 2 роки тому +2

    Blake Master is a FRENEMY to Peter, It is Peter who must Run, WE NEED TO DRAFT HIM!

  • @nozrep
    @nozrep 2 роки тому +2

    was not the FBI formed out of the Pinkerton’s private agency when the governmwnt decided it needed to nationalize the intelligence and private detective industry to a certain extent?

  • @casanico2082
    @casanico2082 Місяць тому

    Big words from Lex about cheating considering his admission to using Cliff Notes to get thru AP classes in high school. Perhaps he's proving his guest's point about the sliding scale of ethics

  • @61757
    @61757 2 роки тому +2

    RNC blew me off as no one to upset the machine

  • @remurraymd
    @remurraymd 2 роки тому +1

    Mining humans and their information is now the biggest industry in the world.
    Anonymity is dead.

  • @casual_designer
    @casual_designer 2 роки тому +8

    This man's language is so clear and concise it terrifies me.

  • @landroverbro
    @landroverbro 2 роки тому +1

    We really need Thiel or Alex Karp on the show

  • @albertosantosramirez
    @albertosantosramirez 2 роки тому +4

    Chomsky's busy AF just interv. Left and right , two a days😂, but you should have him next to counter this gov. operative

    • @johnnyshanksalot8358
      @johnnyshanksalot8358 2 роки тому

      Chomsky sounds like one of those menopausal neolib SSRI-moms on The View nowadays, interviewing him is elder abuse. Everything he says now may as well have come out of the WEF and CIA.

    • @willmannn
      @willmannn 2 роки тому +1

      Chomsky is a Russian gov operative

  • @Diverdug2
    @Diverdug2 2 місяці тому +1

    Do they know who Alex Karp is from Palantir?

  • @ChrisAthanas
    @ChrisAthanas Рік тому +2

    Successful people never realize how much of their success is just pure luck

  • @deenzmartin6695
    @deenzmartin6695 2 роки тому +8

    thiel should absolutely be on the podcast.

  • @michaelperrone3867
    @michaelperrone3867 2 роки тому +5

    Thanks so much Lex for doing this interview: I wish someone like Andrew could have explained all these little nuances to me years ago

  • @HeyCupertino
    @HeyCupertino 2 роки тому +1

    When you look back, 30, 40 years...

  • @intrametaarchi1015
    @intrametaarchi1015 2 роки тому +9

    Cambridge Analytica is analyzing this conversation.

  • @richvandervecken3954
    @richvandervecken3954 7 місяців тому

    Thinthread was an in house NSA system that would have flagged every participant in the 9/11 terrorist attack that was taken off line 30 days prior in favor of a Contractors inferior product that failed to flag any of them. The man who made that decision went to work for the company He gave that contract to when He left. No one ever charged that man with any crime.

  • @infiniteinfiniteinfi
    @infiniteinfiniteinfi 2 роки тому +6

    Have John Kiriakou on.

  • @chuckmadden2251
    @chuckmadden2251 2 роки тому +2

    Always wondered what happened when Chris Kattan left SNL. This character is even better than Mango!

    • @63rambler66
      @63rambler66 2 роки тому +2

      Holy cow I didn't catch the resemblance. On his own channel he is filmed from a different angle. With me enthralled with his teeth. He maybe be better than Mango, but no one is better than Azrael Abyss.

  • @hoongpiowhow5943
    @hoongpiowhow5943 2 роки тому

    Hey Lex, get Alex Karp on the podcast ! would love to hear more about his view on his matter.

  • @spamprotection9763
    @spamprotection9763 Рік тому +1

    Getting mad at when senior people retire early to better their lives, but let Republicans and his friends enrich themselves further.

  • @Charactermatters650
    @Charactermatters650 2 місяці тому

    Please…the security clearances he was acting on pulling had to do with punishing those he deemed “not loyal”, it’s not more complicated than that.

  • @JadSleimanComedy
    @JadSleimanComedy 2 роки тому

    That
    Wasta isn't social capital that's spent or conserved the way Bustamante is using the term, it literally translates to connection. That's like your uncle on the police force, your brother on the hiring committee.

  • @Kvin33333
    @Kvin33333 2 роки тому +1

    So palantir play no role in this?

  • @waltz8559
    @waltz8559 2 роки тому +1

    What’s Eric’s opinion?

  • @KRYPTOS_K5
    @KRYPTOS_K5 Місяць тому

    Excellent.

  • @AnthonyPerpepaj
    @AnthonyPerpepaj 2 роки тому

    Lack of accountability leads to impropriety in free markets

  • @estherrayos
    @estherrayos Місяць тому

    I’m done with it the chaos created by our government agencies the misinformation and the lack of transparency that has been denied on various levels of security and accountability for my immediate family and myself . The cover up was insane and has been heightened by exposure to fraudulent practices as well as fraudulent entities that claim to serve the US government. Reparations need to begin immediately and more than apology is expected plus the return of my vehicle and assets.

  • @caseybanana8114
    @caseybanana8114 2 роки тому +9

    Acting in self-defence of your family is not “morally flexible”. That’s moral behavior. This guys has no clue about ethics…

    • @davidoconnor1773
      @davidoconnor1773 2 роки тому +1

      Thats not the point he was making. What he was saying is that the moral flexibility comes in what the person can perceive as "self defense", in order to justify their actions. There's an entire spectrum there between reactive and proactive behavior to threats (real or perceived), and each persons inflection point for when that crosses over into immoral behavior is different. Think of "killing Hitler as a baby" as an example.

    • @caseybanana8114
      @caseybanana8114 2 роки тому

      @@davidoconnor1773 self-defence by definition is a response to violence. It’s not the initiation of force but a response to it. It’s pretty straightforward. No scenario would involve killing baby Hitler. That’s just what morally corrupt spooks try to convince you otherwise.

    • @instaves
      @instaves 2 роки тому

      🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️

  • @thomaswrzalinski7454
    @thomaswrzalinski7454 2 роки тому +43

    Anything Peter Theil says should be tossed in the trash.

    • @CyY-vo3nb
      @CyY-vo3nb 3 місяці тому +2

      Why?

    • @MrT79shakeshake
      @MrT79shakeshake Місяць тому

      @@CyY-vo3nbbecause randomer #67548 aka thomaswrzalinski7454 said so!

    • @xdanbo1859
      @xdanbo1859 Місяць тому +1

      @@CyY-vo3nb Conflict of interest. He is a deep state ghoul. And should not be trusted.

    • @jaerockchalk3216
      @jaerockchalk3216 29 днів тому +1

      @@CyY-vo3nb because he in fact , trash .

  • @kipropcollins4220
    @kipropcollins4220 Рік тому +1

    your Everyday spy web sounds like an ad for a cheap fortune telling scam bag living in a cardboard in some alley

  • @JamesBond-tb2ul
    @JamesBond-tb2ul 2 роки тому +6

    Thiel is a complex man. Get him on the podcast

    • @tyd8077
      @tyd8077 2 роки тому +6

      Nothing complex about psychopath

    • @geraldperyman6535
      @geraldperyman6535 2 роки тому

      Remember Thiel is a citizen of Germany ,USA and NZ.

    • @mariagaganta4925
      @mariagaganta4925 Рік тому

      Really 😅Complex 😴
      Complexity Complexion. ? 🐥

    • @jesusgonzalez-acton8045
      @jesusgonzalez-acton8045 10 місяців тому

      ⁠​⁠@@tyd8077Peter Thiel studied under Rene Girard, which already says a lot. Go watch the debate between him and Eric Schmidt where he absolutely destroys him and the Silicon Valley technocrat class. Listen to any of his keynote speeches at college graduations- he genuinely believes in real, tangible evil as a force driving the elites (like actual satanic unseen forces guiding them).
      He’s a complex man.

  • @Alex-ej3by
    @Alex-ej3by 2 роки тому +1

    Please have Stephen C Meyer on.

  • @PercyEarlFixingBindsLLC
    @PercyEarlFixingBindsLLC 3 місяці тому

    well, this topic was indeed necessary

  • @rdalge
    @rdalge 2 роки тому +2

    So after serving 40 years in the military and making peanuts doing it, and missing every kid’s birthday, it’s wrong to take a private sector job where you’re well paid for your expertise?

    • @rdalge
      @rdalge 2 роки тому

      @@diogenes4124 ok, so instead of joining to serve, you’d prefer only power hungry psychopaths who just want to feel powerful, knowing they’ll be dead broke, and unemployable afterwards?

    • @christiangrey6258
      @christiangrey6258 2 роки тому

      @@diogenes4124 I think you shot yourself in the foot. Your asking if a smart man would a great paying job that requires no skill or achievement ? And answer to that is YES because it already happens all the time. I assure you that the Hardvard graduates all aim for great paying careers...
      Also, Robinson didn't comment about the reasons for serving in a position of power with low pay (like police or CIA). He simply asked WHY IT IS WRONG FOR A LOW PAID PUBLIC EMPLOYEE to EARN A HIGH PAYING JOB AFTER DECADES OF SERVICE. 🤔

    • @rockybalboagaralhaoitalian4592
      @rockybalboagaralhaoitalian4592 2 роки тому +2

      No. But leave your clearance when you go

  • @jameslyons3320
    @jameslyons3320 2 місяці тому

    The advertising business is founded and thrives on defining and modulating morality and ethics. Needs must be met or advertising fails as a business. A world as it is, currently.

  • @damnmexican90
    @damnmexican90 2 роки тому +18

    He ju a t said they purposly hire narcasstic / psychopathic people.
    And nobody batted an eye.
    LMAO

  • @5lanediver
    @5lanediver 2 роки тому

    crazy that just anyone has access to amazing data lite photos that can be taken on a daily basis…

  • @robinmacdougall2797
    @robinmacdougall2797 2 роки тому +1

    Lex should be the next Batman

  • @witzerdog
    @witzerdog 2 місяці тому +3

    The one thing Andrew is glossing over regarding the revoking of security clearances was the punitive nature in Trump's reasoning for revoking them. He was revoking them from those who were retired and speaking ill of him.

  • @fabsmaster5309
    @fabsmaster5309 2 місяці тому

    About time someone said that executive power over intelligence organizations is a problem. I’m sick of presidents acting like the good people of the CIA work for them and not the other way around. Preach Brother!

  • @bonniewingard9771
    @bonniewingard9771 2 роки тому +1

    Gosh....
    So glad to know.

  • @q44444q
    @q44444q 2 роки тому +17

    The problem is that when you take away the private industry incentive from senior officials leaving, there's no reason to enter the CIA in the first place. So many CIA employees understand this incentive. After a few decades, you get rewarded with highly paid work in private industry. That incentivizes people to join the CIA and stay in service for decades! This is how public service works. That's why Trump's decision was terrible. And if you think that everyone who enters the CIA and is competent in the CIA is completely satisfied and incentivized by the knowledge that they're doing a service to their country, then you're hopelessly naive.

    • @RedTeufel
      @RedTeufel 2 роки тому +7

      You make it sound like they don’t get paid ? And yes people are motivated towards service over a Gucci job after you leave.

    • @rdalge
      @rdalge 2 роки тому +2

      @@RedTeufel not that much. CIA or Military make peanuts compared to what their civilian counterparts make. Mercenaries in Iraq easily made a few times what soldiers make.

    • @GODHATESADOPTION
      @GODHATESADOPTION 2 роки тому

      Cia makes over 150k pshhh

    • @rdalge
      @rdalge 2 роки тому

      @@GODHATESADOPTION how much do you think an equally qualified civilian operator makes?

    • @GODHATESADOPTION
      @GODHATESADOPTION 2 роки тому

      @@rdalge ohhh they would get fired, nothing. CIA are welfare queens. We need to defund.

  • @michaelanthony4750
    @michaelanthony4750 2 роки тому +7

    And this, ladies and gentlemen, is why the constitution doesn't allow for the CIA, FBI or any other federal alphabet agency.

    • @alextromler6407
      @alextromler6407 2 роки тому +1

      Where does it say that?

    • @SedentaryArtist
      @SedentaryArtist 2 роки тому

      Where in the Constitution or even Federalist Papers does it say or imply this?

    • @michaelanthony4750
      @michaelanthony4750 2 роки тому

      @@alextromler6407 the constitution is granted only the powers specifically enumerated in the constitution

  • @skenzyme81
    @skenzyme81 2 роки тому +3

    9:52 Gramscian Cultural Hegemony in action.

  • @simritnam612
    @simritnam612 2 роки тому +1

    Why the photo of a YOUNG Thiel

  • @imaginaryvintage2695
    @imaginaryvintage2695 Рік тому

    "Everybody is ethically flexible" That's cute.

    • @ledaswan5990
      @ledaswan5990 2 місяці тому

      And stupid. EVERY person in the world more or less believes in self defense.

  • @mistercohaagen
    @mistercohaagen 2 місяці тому

    U.S. Government appointing Accelerationists like Thiel... is easily one of the dumbest things possible.

  • @Suncloud-e6q
    @Suncloud-e6q 2 місяці тому

    You know I like the CIA, The FBI and the DCC. More. But there was a very famous and important case, where the only person wanted to success the case was a private corp. officer. It was too hard for official police. Yeah, why not.

  • @iananderson8288
    @iananderson8288 2 роки тому +4

    Man this guy is smart! Knows how to think

  • @michaelregan2419
    @michaelregan2419 2 роки тому

    How you discuss this subject for more than 13 min and never mention Crowdstrike? Shawn Henry? Alperovitch?

  • @pramillamalick3372
    @pramillamalick3372 2 роки тому +4

    lol this guys response to everything is "naturally" completely in denial of the orgs history.

  • @skibbydweez2647
    @skibbydweez2647 2 роки тому

    This lex guy always on ketamine ??? Or just during his podcasts

  • @yapiciyapici5874
    @yapiciyapici5874 Місяць тому

    '"waasota'" means connection..

  • @JoeMisseri
    @JoeMisseri 2 роки тому +8

    Would love to see Thiel on Lex someday.... make it happen!

  • @TerminallySerious
    @TerminallySerious 2 роки тому +4

    Thanks for your continued pursuit of truth and understanding Lex. Your an inspiration.

  • @filmerd
    @filmerd 2 роки тому

    This is what gets me going

  • @bangun172
    @bangun172 2 роки тому +4

    This guy lost all credibility when he throws snoden or assange under the bus,, that is serious

  • @LeftWithRight
    @LeftWithRight Рік тому +1

    With every lex interview i watch i become more concerned about how disturbingly naive he is

    • @polyannamoonbeam
      @polyannamoonbeam 2 місяці тому

      More like humility... he is giving his subject space to expand.

  • @thejokeexplainer
    @thejokeexplainer Місяць тому

    Private intelligence not mainstream? Blackwater became a household name during W’s Iraq war misadventure.

  • @calvin6429
    @calvin6429 2 роки тому

    is 91 1 a insider job?