Jon, I must say thank you for your videos. My jets are nowhere near the level yours are but after watching a video yesterday I changed my setup on my HKing F16 50mm EDF to memic the way you set yours up. Which is with full deflection and radio settings to full throw and high expo and I had such great control over the plane I was floored. Again thank you so much for your exceptional vids brother. Keep up the great work I've learned a ton form your vids.
John I love your babbling and gives the videos some comedy and real life experiences even mishaps. This format was awesome too but more of a serious tutorial which is def awesome to throw in the mix as well. Keep putting out videos!!! Very entertaining and useful. Thanks
I have been flying only turbine jets for the past 8 years or so, And I want to say that your videos are always truly amazing. You present helpful tips based on data and your own experience and at least for me, your videos are always a learning point. I have just finished my Freewing F22 Turbine conversion, and I have watched all your related videos, Thanks and keep it up
@@TwoBrosRC Here is a video of my F22! just maidened it yesterday. Again, I watched all your videos and took your suggestions, flies like a dream! ua-cam.com/video/lEke_KDF_3A/v-deo.html
I can't get enough of this video! Jammed packed with useful information on upping my flying experience! The way you broke down the maneuvers was perfect 👌
Hey man,did you ever come across the one rudder will not be centered when you plug the battery in? I have the Spektrum 10 channel.i have to re-bind several times to get it to recenter.makes for a scary flight lol
The best RC F-22 videos I have ever seen up until now. I enjoyed every last minute of it because it was so spectacle to watch with its dazzling maneuvers. Thank you for this video.
Tutorial content like this will have a lot of these focus points where you can easily see what I'm doing with a voice-over explaining how I'm doing it.
Thank you for bringing me (35yrs of RC flying just about everything in existence) to a new level of 5th gen fighter jet manoeuvres! I just bought the FW 64mm F-22 v2 to practice with instead of my expensive 90mm models. Looking for a setup somewhere between this big F-22 and the 64mm Eflite F-35. Maybe you could do a complete tutorial on the small F-22? This would help entry-level pilots a lot to have fun on a small budget.
We don't own the 64mm and currently have no plans to pick one up. The setup is similar though - you can port ideas from this vid over to the 64mm and try them out.
I have the 8S version of this jet. I'm seriously considering modifying the leading edges of the wings to have actual active camber, with the flaps, as well as I want to add the vectored thrust mod. That way, I don't need to mess with the CG.
Thanks man! Glad you're enjoying. This one took a lot of effort to both film and perform post-production on, but I'm happy to see that YT Is finally promoting it.
If you ever visit the Southern Indiana/Louisville KY area please let me know! There’s a flying field about 30 minutes from me next Caesars Casino where they do the EDF jet jam each year, and Horizon hobby and Motion RC are there. Super cool and fun! But they do turbine jets there it’s so big. Thank you for doing these videos!
Super jealous. I'm a simp for anything FA22 raptor related and this is amazing stuff. 👏 I'm sharing your channel on everything to try and help out.....In the hopes of more raptor content.
Absolutely amazing! I’m gonna have to try to do some of those maneuvers! I also have been thinking about doing the “tailerons” on this bad boy! Have to check out your setup video on it! How many channels will I need for that?
You'll need a minimum of 8 to pull it off. 10 is preferable so you can get flaperons set up too. I'm going to upgrade it with the X-Bus expansion so I can route the gear and nose door through the expander to free up channels for the nose steering and second rudder.
@@TwoBrosRC Hmmm ok thanks for the Info! I have an 8 channel RX and TX. I love want to do the flaperons and stuff too but I’m not sure how to (but I have your video to refer to) and could get a different receiver but I don’t think an NX8 will work?
@@KB_RC You can't have flaperons and differential stabilators with an 8ch. It's either-or. I'd go with differential stabs, they'll produce the roll effects you'll need to perform post-stall maneuvers.
Ok, that was riviting! That's the kind of video I would like to fold up and tuck away in my back pocket pocket when I need the information! I have about 12 years of RC experience and most of your videos 3/4 of what you're talking about I had no idea what you were talking about.! This video makes me realize how talented your flying skills are. I think your viewers would be more appreciative of saying videos like this format where they could truly benefit. This was seriously good information as far as my flying skills go. I never subscribed to your channel before. I did after seeing this video! Also I'll probably be looking more at videos of the F22 after seeing this. A big thank you for this format you're trying and Keep up the good work!
Glad to hear it man! We dive into this format specifically for tutorials, but otherwise bounce between talking at the camera and voicing over. Just depends on what we feel the content needs.
I had experienced that trim issue. Im running the spektrum 10 channel and have it set up like yours. When i trimmed level for slower flight would roll right when i would speed up. I found the "balancing" the wing ailerons to the elevons corrected the problem. I used my digital pitch gauge and made sure the flaps and aileros where equal in angle with the bottom of the wing with the plane on its back. I had the roll trim switch only on elevons and trimmed for level flight again. It had improved it alot the first flight and i had to make small subtrim adjustments to the wing aileron a couple times and send it back up and trim elevons for level flight until it didnt have that, what i called, speed roll. Is still get a little back and forth aileron like trim issue, but i think it has to do more with how the wings droop down a little making it more sensitive to a little play in the servo or control horns. Nature of the beast i guess. Im in my second f22 and it was the exact same oddity.
I've got it mostly dialed in at this point, off camera. But we'll see how it performs with the new Hitec servo upgrades on the wings. I'm betting some of it is slop from poor stock servos.
Love the new format Jon! I was attracted to your channel when you first started because of your flying. I studied what you were doing in the air. Back then you didn’t talk at all. This is a great mix now. A little teaching in the flying. I might suggest an ear piece or ear bud for the transmitter talking. It’s great info for you but watching the video it is very distracting and seems non stop. Love what you do and always learn a lot! Thanks!
Dang! What an excellent video and format. Congratulations. Also, your voice presentation was perfect. Camera work was great too! I hate watching videos where the plane gets isty bitsy tiny in the frame. I got a lot from watching this and will re-watch it many times. One thing that would be useful if you had time would be to go through your iX20 setup. I enjoy learning from the setups that other RC pilots do. Thanks.
I like the “mindless babble”. If you have some time in the sport, but your lacking in some aspect, this is the channel to come to. After the 6 battery maiden of the 90mm I came to your channel to get some tips on landing. And by golly you had 2 videos on landing the Viper. And a lot of good talking points.
@@TwoBrosRC I’ve become the Jehovah’s Witness for your channel. Anyone who asks me, “You’re an idiot Jeff, how did you get these 80 and 90mm jets to all of a sudden fly so well and land without snapping the nose gear?” Two Brothers RC- check them out.
@@TwoBrosRC I went on to tell them- “Watch Jon’s F-22 video. He’s so good he landed the jet on water. That’s when you know you’re at the Expert level!”
There’s just nothing like the F-22. Man it looks cool!! You fly so good! Probably the one problem I have with edf’s is getting the neutral elevator angle just perfect. Sounds easy but I feel like I’m always fighting the pushrod length vs removing the servo arms and adjusting. I haven’t found the easiest way to make sure both elevators are exactly the same as each other. Any tips I would totally appreciate! Thank you!
The easiest way is to measure the elevator position on one side and match it to the other. Any adjustments needed afterwards just requires duplicating the same link adjustments.
Two questions, did you ever fix that left roll? Also the plane is so nicely shaped, I was wondering you think it's possible to dead-stick land her without throttle?
Really nice! I am not good to speak english, I dont understand everything you told in your video! You put the power system off the eflite viper 90mm in it right? How feels the power compare the same power unit in the viper 90mm?😊
I am so torn in making a decision between this model in the 8s ultra performance configuration, and the twin 80mm Mig 29 with the thrust vectoring option. The F14 is also a close runner up due to it's legendary looks, but it's so hard to pull the trigger on any model over the next. Are you considering on getting the Freewing Mig 29 in the future to test out?
Hello guys! I like your videos, but I have some suggestions (as you mentioned you are losing some views). Everyone wants to fly as amazing as you guys do, you are really great demonstrating it with the radio sticks overlay. What would be amazing is to see you guys setting up the planes in the workbench: trims, mixers, cg etc… you would the process of “flying amazing” end to end. You can even create series of videos covering the same airplane from the inception until the most advance flight stints… Keep up the great work 👍🏼👌🏼
Already did that! ua-cam.com/video/fPREX6X1U9g/v-deo.html Everything I use in this jet is demonstrated above. It was also linked in a card in the beginning. ;)
I like how you fly the f22 in a small tight box. I was wondering how much throw you use on elevators. Book calls for 32mm but it doesnt seem like enough to stick bang
@@TwoBrosRC so what's your favorite all around performance jet from freewing. Honestly I thought the f22 would be a tad better. Lacking on power using 1900kv 6s. So I'm going to a 8s upgraded fan that's not freewing. For the money these costs they need to find a better solution for power. I will only be buying arf versions now so I can install my own power. Still can't find a jet that beats su 35. Dude you would shred that jet.
@@TwoBrosRC what camera would you recommend to record Rc plane videos like you? I have a iPhone 13 Pro just not sure how it will look when zoomed in. Thanks again John!
I’m surprised you prefer a CG of about 150mm back from the leading edge root. That’s what the manual recommends and I find it a little nose heavy. It’s difficult to get that slow approach with a little bit of alpha with the manual’s CG. I’ve been trying about 160mm back.
It'll depend on what you're looking for in a jet. The F/A-18 is more agile than the F-22 but has a more restricted flight envelope. High alpha isn't going to be something you do with the F/A-18 - inverted is out of the question entirely. It's a more difficult airframe to fly than the F-22 but can be incredibly rewarding.
@@TwoBrosRC thanks 😊 Sounds like they’re both are very good options. I’m still learning and from what I understand the F-22 is easier and more predictable right?
Hello, John, I fly turbine models and am looking for a suitable model for the Chicoy X-45-X. I prefer agility over speed. I am deciding between the F-22 from Ffreewing and the Dessault Rafale from FMS. Which do you think is better? Thank you for answer John of the Czech Republic.
What's with all the wing rocking on landing? I set mine up stock and it lands steady as a rock...I fly in the wind all the time with my F22 as long as it is a steady wind...gusts are a different story.
So I've just done the stupidest thing - I have never flown an rc plane before and I just ordered this (ultra model) from motion rc 😂 - now i need to figure out how to fly this.
Hopefully you wil see this comment since this is an older video., But, I figure if anyone can figure this problem out its got to be you!.. I have the FW 90mm F-22, the issue I am having is when I first plug the battery in all the gears work correctly, but when the nose gear is retracted, and I go to drop the gear, the Nose gear starts down before the gear door is open. I have checked all my connections, I have tried by-passing the blue box I have replaced the blue box, i have literally tried everything I could think of. I called MotionRC to see if they had come across that problem but they couldnt help. If I disconnect the battery while the gear is up it will work properly, but of course its unrealistic to disconnect the battery in flight. Something is messing up the sequencing. So again, 1. when battery is connected and gear is dropped, the door opens first as it should, 2. then when the gear is retracted, it functions correctly, but then 3. when I go to cycle the gear again to drop down, the nose gear starts down first and forces open the gear doors. Hope you can solve this thank you
@@TwoBrosRC not sure how I would do that, do you mean move them with my hand without the battery plugged in? and thank you for getting back to me so soon
@@flyjets305 No, we mean specifically setting up the gear so that they're sequenced in the radio. Our setup guide should cover this to some extent: ua-cam.com/video/fPREX6X1U9g/v-deo.html
@@TwoBrosRC I have a very simple radio .- the flysky fs-i6 it works great for me. but i will look at the link you sent and see if that will help, thank you
@@TwoBrosRC so I'm looking at your link about the gear sequence, and 1. you are using a spektrum radio, that obviously can do this, also, you say you have by passed the blue box. So I do not believe my radio will be capable of doing this , unfortunately, as I see in your video that you were also able to make the gear retract much quicker, which would be nice to do..
Don't understand how you are losing viewers!. Just found your channel and joined because it is the most informative and technically interesting video series for the type of r.c. aircraft I like to fly. Keep making these videos!.👍
@@TwoBrosRC It depends on the brand you use. It was already done in another jet (Rafale by FMS) (WEMOTEC Germany) and brought more thrust. The cross section of 2x64mm is slightly higher than 1x90.
That's an odd take considering the F-22 is considered one of the most aerobatic full scale fighters out there. There's very little of what was done here that it can't do, so most of this would be considered scale flying - there's more to "scale" than just flying in circles.
Man this resembles a boring episode of National Geographic with those lame voice overs..doesn’t seem natural sounds like you’re reading off a script…we love the as you fly babbling it’s more natural funny and interesting my boiii
@@TwoBrosRC thanks. It’s funny I deleted that question. Funny how it’s still there. I saw a video from motion rc. He said don’t fly it on 6. It won’t fly. 8s only
Jon, I must say thank you for your videos. My jets are nowhere near the level yours are but after watching a video yesterday I changed my setup on my HKing F16 50mm EDF to memic the way you set yours up. Which is with full deflection and radio settings to full throw and high expo and I had such great control over the plane I was floored. Again thank you so much for your exceptional vids brother. Keep up the great work I've learned a ton form your vids.
So glad to hear that, Anthony!
9:28 is it! That is the maneuver that gets me going man. Holy crap I love you guys!!
Amazing flight as always! I referenced this video so many times learning to fly the F-22. Thank you!!
Happy to help! Join us on Discord via bit.ly/TBRCDiscord and post your flying in the #jets channel, we'd love to see it!
John I love your babbling and gives the videos some comedy and real life experiences even mishaps. This format was awesome too but more of a serious tutorial which is def awesome to throw in the mix as well. Keep putting out videos!!! Very entertaining and useful. Thanks
Thanks for the feedback Matt!
I have been flying only turbine jets for the past 8 years or so, And I want to say that your videos are always truly amazing. You present helpful tips based on data and your own experience and at least for me, your videos are always a learning point. I have just finished my Freewing F22 Turbine conversion, and I have watched all your related videos, Thanks and keep it up
Happy to help, cheers!
@@TwoBrosRC
Here is a video of my F22! just maidened it yesterday. Again, I watched all your videos and took your suggestions, flies like a dream!
ua-cam.com/video/lEke_KDF_3A/v-deo.html
I was very impressed watching this video and amazed by the camera footage and the description of the techniques. Great job dude.
I like more this way! for Tutorial Techniques, its like been on Flight School, How much time have you been flying with EDFs?
I started with EDF jets in March of 2021.
I can't get enough of this video! Jammed packed with useful information on upping my flying experience!
The way you broke down the maneuvers was perfect 👌
Thanks man! This is how we'll be presenting tutorial content going forward.
Awesome!I got a Spektrum 10 Channel on the way.im gonna try to figure out the steup you have.
@@sendit_rc The setup I'm flying is linked in a card in the beginning of the vid, just for simplicity's sake.
Hey man,did you ever come across the one rudder will not be centered when you plug the battery in? I have the Spektrum 10 channel.i have to re-bind several times to get it to recenter.makes for a scary flight lol
Nope. Sounds like the servo needs replaced.
The last format, and this new one have all been great!
Loving this tutorial format!! That EDF really is impressive
The best RC F-22 videos I have ever seen up until now. I enjoyed every last minute of it because it was so spectacle to watch with its dazzling maneuvers. Thank you for this video.
Glad you enjoyed it!
No way man. Its all been cool. Ive been stuck with too much adulting lately. 😅
No Jon. I do like it how it was. Just please don't stop wat you doing. It's great.
Good stuff man... F-22 & F-14 are two jets I need in my life!!! But for now loving my 1.2 June nite P-51 Mustang
Great camera work also
Can’t wait to watch this so I can try some of these with mine! 😂
Great new channel name by the way!
Hope you enjoy! Thanks!
Like the new name. Took a minute to figure out it was you. Bad ass flying u got her dialed in
I really like the new format. Especially the slow-mo with the stick movement voice over. Personally, I can’t keep up at full speed. This helps.
Tutorial content like this will have a lot of these focus points where you can easily see what I'm doing with a voice-over explaining how I'm doing it.
So cool, you can see the afterburner through the Forward Inlets.
Thank you for bringing me (35yrs of RC flying just about everything in existence) to a new level of 5th gen fighter jet manoeuvres! I just bought the FW 64mm F-22 v2 to practice with instead of my expensive 90mm models. Looking for a setup somewhere between this big F-22 and the 64mm Eflite F-35. Maybe you could do a complete tutorial on the small F-22? This would help entry-level pilots a lot to have fun on a small budget.
We don't own the 64mm and currently have no plans to pick one up. The setup is similar though - you can port ideas from this vid over to the 64mm and try them out.
I have the 8S version of this jet. I'm seriously considering modifying the leading edges of the wings to have actual active camber, with the flaps, as well as I want to add the vectored thrust mod. That way, I don't need to mess with the CG.
will 8s be so heavy?
@@IanChen-m1o 8 s is pretty heavy
Love the slow mo with narration. Really gives me time to observe and absorb what’s going on. In addition, the in air slow mo footage looks stellar 😮
Thanks man! Glad you're enjoying. This one took a lot of effort to both film and perform post-production on, but I'm happy to see that YT Is finally promoting it.
i love the ace combat music in the background. i fearr im getting dangerously close to diving in to one of these.
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Bravo, I’m convinced lol!! Great flying
If you ever visit the Southern Indiana/Louisville KY area please let me know! There’s a flying field about 30 minutes from me next Caesars Casino where they do the EDF jet jam each year, and Horizon hobby and Motion RC are there. Super cool and fun! But they do turbine jets there it’s so big.
Thank you for doing these videos!
Jon, this model is going to heaven. Because you are flying the hell out of it!
Super jealous. I'm a simp for anything FA22 raptor related and this is amazing stuff. 👏 I'm sharing your channel on everything to try and help out.....In the hopes of more raptor content.
Cheers!
Love the Ace Combat music in the background, great job on you build.✌
Saw one of these in person recently, they are epic
Absolutely amazing! I’m gonna have to try to do some of those maneuvers! I also have been thinking about doing the “tailerons” on this bad boy! Have to check out your setup video on it! How many channels will I need for that?
You'll need a minimum of 8 to pull it off. 10 is preferable so you can get flaperons set up too. I'm going to upgrade it with the X-Bus expansion so I can route the gear and nose door through the expander to free up channels for the nose steering and second rudder.
@KB RC DO IT!!
@@TwoBrosRC Hmmm ok thanks for the Info! I have an 8 channel RX and TX. I love want to do the flaperons and stuff too but I’m not sure how to (but I have your video to refer to) and could get a different receiver but I don’t think an NX8 will work?
@@KB_RC You can't have flaperons and differential stabilators with an 8ch. It's either-or. I'd go with differential stabs, they'll produce the roll effects you'll need to perform post-stall maneuvers.
@@TwoBrosRC Ok I will! NX8 and 8 channel receiver work? I think only one channel is open.
Ok, that was riviting! That's the kind of video I would like to fold up and tuck away in my back pocket pocket when I need the information! I have about 12 years of RC experience and most of your videos 3/4 of what you're talking about I had no idea what you were talking about.! This video makes me realize how talented your flying skills are. I think your viewers would be more appreciative of saying videos like this format where they could truly benefit. This was seriously good information as far as my flying skills go. I never subscribed to your channel before. I did after seeing this video! Also I'll probably be looking more at videos of the F22 after seeing this. A big thank you for this format you're trying and Keep up the good work!
Glad to hear it man! We dive into this format specifically for tutorials, but otherwise bounce between talking at the camera and voicing over. Just depends on what we feel the content needs.
Love your content either way! You do a lot of custom programming and AS3X work. It would be super awesome if that was included in your videos!
Already do, bud! ua-cam.com/video/fPREX6X1U9g/v-deo.html
This was linked in a card in the beginning - it goes over the entire setup I'm flying. ;)
@@TwoBrosRC 0:03
I like the new format! More please. Impressive flight and camera skills as usual. My OCD is killing me with the runway though!
Glad to hear you're enjoying! The runway isn't perfect, but it's free, and so is the battery charging. Can't really complain on my end.
Incredible mastery. Amazing.
I noticed on the landing approach it was more of thrust control than down elevator, very good technique
Bye the way like the name and format change!.👍
I had experienced that trim issue. Im running the spektrum 10 channel and have it set up like yours. When i trimmed level for slower flight would roll right when i would speed up. I found the "balancing" the wing ailerons to the elevons corrected the problem. I used my digital pitch gauge and made sure the flaps and aileros where equal in angle with the bottom of the wing with the plane on its back. I had the roll trim switch only on elevons and trimmed for level flight again. It had improved it alot the first flight and i had to make small subtrim adjustments to the wing aileron a couple times and send it back up and trim elevons for level flight until it didnt have that, what i called, speed roll. Is still get a little back and forth aileron like trim issue, but i think it has to do more with how the wings droop down a little making it more sensitive to a little play in the servo or control horns. Nature of the beast i guess. Im in my second f22 and it was the exact same oddity.
I've got it mostly dialed in at this point, off camera. But we'll see how it performs with the new Hitec servo upgrades on the wings. I'm betting some of it is slop from poor stock servos.
@@TwoBrosRC good idea. I have some savox laying i want to try
Love the new format Jon! I was attracted to your channel when you first started because of your flying. I studied what you were doing in the air. Back then you didn’t talk at all. This is a great mix now. A little teaching in the flying. I might suggest an ear piece or ear bud for the transmitter talking. It’s great info for you but watching the video it is very distracting and seems non stop. Love what you do and always learn a lot! Thanks!
I'll probably just reduce the volume which should help a lot. Thanks Jeff!
Dang! What an excellent video and format. Congratulations. Also, your voice presentation was perfect. Camera work was great too! I hate watching videos where the plane gets isty bitsy tiny in the frame.
I got a lot from watching this and will re-watch it many times. One thing that would be useful if you had time would be to go through your iX20 setup. I enjoy learning from the setups that other RC pilots do. Thanks.
Thank you, Don! We actually did go over the setup for this jet in January of 2021: ua-cam.com/video/fPREX6X1U9g/v-deo.html
@@TwoBrosRC That's awesome! Thanks!
Just now re watching this video after having flown mine. Mine also has a persistent left roll when above 50% throttle.
Ours had a weird roll tendency too.
New Channel name? I like it! I was fine with the old format, but this is good too.
Glad you like it!
Good tutorial. 👍🏻
I like the “mindless babble”. If you have some time in the sport, but your lacking in some aspect, this is the channel to come to. After the 6 battery maiden of the 90mm I came to your channel to get some tips on landing. And by golly you had 2 videos on landing the Viper. And a lot of good talking points.
Well, you're in luck then. We recorded several vids yesterday that go back to the old format for the time being.
@@TwoBrosRC I’ve become the Jehovah’s Witness for your channel. Anyone who asks me, “You’re an idiot Jeff, how did you get these 80 and 90mm jets to all of a sudden fly so well and land without snapping the nose gear?”
Two Brothers RC- check them out.
That's so awesome to hear. Thanks Jeff!
@@TwoBrosRC I went on to tell them- “Watch Jon’s F-22 video. He’s so good he landed the jet on water. That’s when you know you’re at the Expert level!”
Nice!
0:20 Jon I'll do my part and watch all your crash videos this week. Also do you plan on posting anymore bike videos?
Hey, thanks! Just don't forget to watch the informative stuff too. 😉
No plans on road biking stuff on this channel in the future.
There’s just nothing like the F-22. Man it looks cool!! You fly so good!
Probably the one problem I have with edf’s is getting the neutral elevator angle just perfect. Sounds easy but I feel like I’m always fighting the pushrod length vs removing the servo arms and adjusting. I haven’t found the easiest way to make sure both elevators are exactly the same as each other. Any tips I would totally appreciate!
Thank you!
The easiest way is to measure the elevator position on one side and match it to the other. Any adjustments needed afterwards just requires duplicating the same link adjustments.
Awesome video as always my only critic i can say is flicking the sticks is a bad habbit
It's not, but thanks for the feedback.
Cool 🌞😁
Two questions, did you ever fix that left roll? Also the plane is so nicely shaped, I was wondering you think it's possible to dead-stick land her without throttle?
The left roll never got trimmed out. You can dead stick this jet but it'll take practice.
Do you have a vid on how to wire up elevons like you have it on that freewing model ? Or do I even need to chang wiring ? Thanks 🙏
ua-cam.com/video/fPREX6X1U9g/v-deo.html
Really nice! I am not good to speak english, I dont understand everything you told in your video! You put the power system off the eflite viper 90mm in it right? How feels the power compare the same power unit in the viper 90mm?😊
It feels a lot more powerful with the Viper motor.
@@TwoBrosRC Nice! Powerfull like the viper 90 or a little less now because off the two nozzle?
I am so torn in making a decision between this model in the 8s ultra performance configuration, and the twin 80mm Mig 29 with the thrust vectoring option. The F14 is also a close runner up due to it's legendary looks, but it's so hard to pull the trigger on any model over the next. Are you considering on getting the Freewing Mig 29 in the future to test out?
Definitely, but it's really expensive and requires a lot of mods. It'll be something we get way down the line.
Epic video ❤😊
Could you do this for the al37? Love the content!
It's not meant to be an aerobatic jet, but we have posted landing tutorials for it.
I keep expecting to hear the weird BINGO buzz noise from AC3
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Hello guys! I like your videos, but I have some suggestions (as you mentioned you are losing some views). Everyone wants to fly as amazing as you guys do, you are really great demonstrating it with the radio sticks overlay. What would be amazing is to see you guys setting up the planes in the workbench: trims, mixers, cg etc… you would the process of “flying amazing” end to end. You can even create series of videos covering the same airplane from the inception until the most advance flight stints… Keep up the great work 👍🏼👌🏼
Already did that!
ua-cam.com/video/fPREX6X1U9g/v-deo.html
Everything I use in this jet is demonstrated above. It was also linked in a card in the beginning. ;)
Is this something you can buy online and have it delivered???
Yes, MotionRC.com
I like how you fly the f22 in a small tight box. I was wondering how much throw you use on elevators. Book calls for 32mm but it doesnt seem like enough to stick bang
All the throw. As much as we can get them to move.
@@TwoBrosRC so as much as you can without over stressing servos
Yep, basically.
@@TwoBrosRC so what's your favorite all around performance jet from freewing. Honestly I thought the f22 would be a tad better. Lacking on power using 1900kv 6s. So I'm going to a 8s upgraded fan that's not freewing. For the money these costs they need to find a better solution for power. I will only be buying arf versions now so I can install my own power. Still can't find a jet that beats su 35. Dude you would shred that jet.
Amazing video!! Can you do these same tricks with the freewing v2 64mm f22 raptor? Can you hand toss the 64mm f22 as well? Thanks!!
It doesn't have the same mass so it's unlikely that it'll perform all of the same moves - it also lacks rudders too, so that's holding it back a bit.
@@TwoBrosRC ok thanks!! Do you think I can hand launch it?
Probably.
@@TwoBrosRC what camera would you recommend to record Rc plane videos like you? I have a iPhone 13 Pro just not sure how it will look when zoomed in. Thanks again John!
We'd recommend the Sony AX53: amzn.to/3AzqyQx which is what we personally use.
I’m surprised you prefer a CG of about 150mm back from the leading edge root. That’s what the manual recommends and I find it a little nose heavy. It’s difficult to get that slow approach with a little bit of alpha with the manual’s CG. I’ve been trying about 160mm back.
We probably misspoke, we prefer flying at 165mm.
@@TwoBrosRC Great! I will try that tomorrow
Great video Jon! I’m debating between this F-22 and FW F-18, the same as you presented in your channel. Which one would you prefer?
Thanks 🙏🏻
It'll depend on what you're looking for in a jet. The F/A-18 is more agile than the F-22 but has a more restricted flight envelope. High alpha isn't going to be something you do with the F/A-18 - inverted is out of the question entirely. It's a more difficult airframe to fly than the F-22 but can be incredibly rewarding.
@@TwoBrosRC thanks 😊
Sounds like they’re both are very good options. I’m still learning and from what I understand the F-22 is easier and more predictable right?
It's much easier and more predictable to fly. Absolutely.
@@TwoBrosRC sounds good :)
Is it the rudders the commands the roll?
No, the ailerons and stabilators.
Can you all make a tutorial on flying the avios C 130?
We don't have that model yet, so unfortunately we can't.
Hello, John,
I fly turbine models and am looking for a suitable model for the Chicoy X-45-X. I prefer agility over speed. I am deciding between the F-22 from Ffreewing and the Dessault Rafale from FMS. Which do you think is better? Thank you for answer
John of the Czech Republic.
Hi John, neither is better but the Rafale is definitely more capable of high alpha flight. It's really just a personal choice.
Does it have thrust vectoring on this RC model?
Nope, but it'd be nice if it did.
What's with all the wing rocking on landing? I set mine up stock and it lands steady as a rock...I fly in the wind all the time with my F22 as long as it is a steady wind...gusts are a different story.
It happens.
How do you get both ailerons to go up to slow on landing?
It's in our setup guide.
3:25 there is an apache in the distance
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Is it possible to do with the stock servos ? The stock servos seem to move the elevators very slowly.
It's possible, but some of these maneuvers won't look as good because it'll be slower.
Jon when I see you Flat spin it looks like you have full right aileron but then the plane spins to the left ?? Is that right
You have to try turbine jets at this point.
I wish I had the money laying around to invest the several thousand dollars needed to start!
@@TwoBrosRC Me too. It’s extremely expensive 😩
So I've just done the stupidest thing - I have never flown an rc plane before and I just ordered this (ultra model) from motion rc 😂 - now i need to figure out how to fly this.
Good luck, you're gonna need it!
thanks for the encouragement lol@@TwoBrosRC
Where can we buy this plane?
RC-Castle.com
Hopefully you wil see this comment since this is an older video., But, I figure if anyone can figure this problem out its got to be you!.. I have the FW 90mm F-22, the issue I am having is when I first plug the battery in all the gears work correctly, but when the nose gear is retracted, and I go to drop the gear, the Nose gear starts down before the gear door is open. I have checked all my connections, I have tried by-passing the blue box I have replaced the blue box, i have literally tried everything I could think of. I called MotionRC to see if they had come across that problem but they couldnt help.
If I disconnect the battery while the gear is up it will work properly, but of course its unrealistic to disconnect the battery in flight. Something is messing up the sequencing. So again, 1. when battery is connected and gear is dropped, the door opens first as it should, 2. then when the gear is retracted, it functions correctly, but then 3. when I go to cycle the gear again to drop down, the nose gear starts down first and forces open the gear doors. Hope you can solve this thank you
We see every comment regardless of how old the video is. Did you sequence the gear manually?
@@TwoBrosRC not sure how I would do that, do you mean move them with my hand without the battery plugged in? and thank you for getting back to me so soon
@@flyjets305 No, we mean specifically setting up the gear so that they're sequenced in the radio. Our setup guide should cover this to some extent: ua-cam.com/video/fPREX6X1U9g/v-deo.html
@@TwoBrosRC I have a very simple radio .- the flysky fs-i6 it works great for me. but i will look at the link you sent and see if that will help, thank you
@@TwoBrosRC so I'm looking at your link about the gear sequence, and 1. you are using a spektrum radio, that obviously can do this, also, you say you have by passed the blue box. So I do not believe my radio will be capable of doing this , unfortunately, as I see in your video that you were also able to make the gear retract much quicker, which would be nice to do..
Do you fly in mode 2?
Whichever the US standard is
@@TwoBrosRC mode 2 probably. Thrust and rudder on left ; elevator and ailerons on right side.
Don't understand how you are losing viewers!.
Just found your channel and joined because it is the most informative and technically interesting video series for the type of r.c. aircraft I like to fly.
Keep making these videos!.👍
Will do, thank you!
Agreed
hi why the name change?
I went over it in a post, but Tony and I are brothers-in-law and best friends. It only made sense.
Too bad that two 64mm EDF were not installed. That would have been more real and the sound would have been better with 12 blades each.
Two 64mm wouldn't be as powerful as the 12b 90mm we're using.
@@TwoBrosRC It depends on the brand you use. It was already done in another jet (Rafale by FMS) (WEMOTEC Germany) and brought more thrust. The cross section of 2x64mm is slightly higher than 1x90.
I don't mind mindless babble
No way to fly a scale model, just stick to gut-wrenching 3D planes to show off your RC skill.
That's an odd take considering the F-22 is considered one of the most aerobatic full scale fighters out there. There's very little of what was done here that it can't do, so most of this would be considered scale flying - there's more to "scale" than just flying in circles.
Man this resembles a boring episode of National Geographic with those lame voice overs..doesn’t seem natural sounds like you’re reading off a script…we love the as you fly babbling it’s more natural funny and interesting my boiii
Sorry you feel that way, but I'm not changing back to the original format for tutorial content.
Keep it up!
It’s UA-cam messing with notifications and feed. It happens to everyone’s CH as they gain popularity.
Here's hoping.
Question on this 8s version of the F22. Can the 8s version be ran on 6s or is it strictly 8s?
You can run it with 6 cells but it's not going to produce the thrust that 8 cells would. It's possible but not recommended at all.
@@TwoBrosRC thanks. It’s funny I deleted that question. Funny how it’s still there. I saw a video from motion rc. He said don’t fly it on 6. It won’t fly. 8s only