Natural Immunity vs Boosters vs Omicron | How does natural immunity fare?
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- Опубліковано 20 чер 2022
- How does previous COVID infection otherwise known as natural immunity fare with omicron? We know from previous extensive studies that natural immunity is at least as good and some studies show that it’s better than vaccinated immunity but that was based on the alpha and delta variants. What is the data for omicron? Is natural immunity as good as 2 or 3 vaccines? how does it compare with 2 vaccines plus natural immunity or 3 vaccines plus natural immunity? I review a recent peer-reviewed published study in the New England Journal of Medicine.
New England Journal of Medicine study: www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056...
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Dr. Keith Moran MD, RCPSC, DABIM, RCS, NBE Biography:
I am a consultant in Internal Medicine with special medical interests in gastroenterology, cardiology, and echocardiography. I am a a full-time practising physician in these areas. I was an undergraduate at the University of Toronto, Trinity College where I received a number of scholarships including one for top student at Trinity College. I attended medical school at the University of Toronto graduating with a gold medal. My internship was completed at McMaster University in Hamilton followed by a residency in Internal Medicine at the University of Western Ontario in London. I then completed a fellowship in General Internal Medicine at the University of Western Ontario. I am an active echocardiographer who has been certified and recertified by the National Board of Echocardiography. I am certified in cardiac sonography and have trained and completely educated a number of cardiac sonographers. I am the medical director of my cardiology laboratory which was established in 2001. My laboratory performs echocardiography and stress echocardiography amongst other tests. I maintain my certification in the American Board of Internal Medicine. I have over 27 years of experience as a hospital-based consultant in internal medicine and intensive care unit attending physician. I am the medical director of the cardiac rehabilitation program in my community.
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How to Optimize Your Immunity! Beat COVID and Other Health Conditions ua-cam.com/video/UzpKW4FlxRc/v-deo.html
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How to Fix Constipation | Constipation treatments by an MD ua-cam.com/video/pA8mf3U7X88/v-deo.html
Gastroscopy | OGD | See inside the stomach! ua-cam.com/video/Vzn77Lnibqs/v-deo.html
Echocardiogram Procedure | Heart Ultrasound | Everything you need to know ua-cam.com/video/31WVDVVfDn8/v-deo.html
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I suppose it's not surprising that the government/drug companies are not interested in recognizing natural immunity. It doesn't benefit the investors. Natural immunity also transfers power to the masses and away from people in "control".
Thank you, Dr. Moran!
And even ones that do in europe cap it off at 6 months and then want to force you into the jab. Let's hope this garbage isn't back next autumn.
Thank you Dr. Moran, we need more Doctors like you in this world.
And now vaccinating children when most of them have natural immunity, this is evil. In Costa Rica is our number 15 mandatory vaccine, imagine that is disgusting and worrisome.
Thank you for clarifying that there is no significant effectiveness of boosters when it comes to longterm effect
My dad has had 2 booster and was bedridden for 2 days with both. He got covid after his 4rth booster, and was sick for about 3 days.
@@annarice5162 my parents are in their late 70's, dad is compromised. No boosters and aren't being particularly cautious (no masks etc). They haven't had Covid since the first wave.
@@nooa69 RIP🙏
@@annarice5162 I had the original about 8 months in, was around 2 people with Delta (one tripled vax who died) and not a sniffle. I worked alot of OT when all the vaxed people at work got the Omicron variant.
"Thank you for clarifying that there is no significant effectiveness of boosters when it comes to longterm effect"
He didn't say that. He suggested it is likely that boosters would wane, but the study didn't go long enough to support a conclusion either way. In other words, there is no evidence in this study supporting booster shots waning in effectiveness, and there is no evidence in this study supporting long term benefits.
The big huge gigantic enormous blindspot in all of these studies from the start is ignoring diet and lifestyle as a factor.
Ignoring baseline inflammation, baseline ability for the individual to recover from ANY illness.
It's all one big red herring.
Indeed.
Agreed. I'm 50 years old, keep very fit and have a healthy diet. I didn't get vaccinated. Maybe unhealthy people are wise to get vaccinated but I think healthy people getting vaccinated is madness - especially if they're young.
Indeed… I’m a 31, unvaccinated but very conscious about my lifestyle, and after working in retail in Oslo during the whole pandemic I’ve yet to get the virus. Since 2020 I’ve been sick two times; fever and the sniffles that lasted a couple of days.
None of these studies looks at the healthy people who never tested positive. That’s outside the scope.
It was an observational study. It's impossible to gather that data. It's difficult to control for so many factors in any study. You have to hope that the participants are honest. The best they can usually do is try to have a broad range of age, sex and ethnicities but that is also difficult.
@@cyclingSausage i disagree . 3 days ago (Tuesday) i tested positive for covid , i was really sick , maybe for about 10 hours . Wednesday i was much better , today i am feeling great again . I am 60 years old , i drink , i smoke , i eat everything i want and do not exercise and i do not remember the last time i saw my doctors face and i am unvaccinated .
No money in natural immunity
Natural immunity isn't profitable.
1M Dead Americans= $$$ funerals and insurance payouts
Follow the money.
Dr Moran displays credibility and authenticity that others lack. I put my trust in his analysis ahead of the clearly partisan protagonists that abound on this topic I’m a physician
Now we need to encourage the public to proactively improve their health and thus their resilience to diseases such as covid. Obesity, high sugar diet, low vegetable intake, lack of exercise, chronic stress, hydrogenated fats, poor sleep, smoking and alcohol are modifiable lifestyle factors we can change when given the right information and support.
Amen brother!!!
Yeah this was the first thing i did when all this stuff started. Im down 30lbs and have about 40 more to go
I agree 100% that people need healthier diets and lifestyles. In my opinion, it's a scandal that the national dialogue is lacking these nutritional and lifestyle measures. Even the idea of drinking or injecting bleach received more media attention. Is junk food that sacred? Are Vitamin D3 deficiencies, selenium deficiencies, Vitamin B12 deficiencies, and other nutritional deficiencies sacred?
Then again, maybe I'm expecting too much in a world with debates about vaccines and face masks. People who cannot understand how vaccines help the immune system work better or how face masks reduce exposures to viral loads would probably not be able to understand the importance of Vitamin D3, selenium, Vitamin B12, and other nutrients.
We need to encourage the public to proactively improve their common sense!
@@Self_sufficient_ that's brilliant well done. A healthy lifestyle is the best investment you can make for your short and long term quality of life 🙏
Thanks for pointing out that the hybrid immunity (as it is called) appears to provide the best immunity is not necessarily a fact, do to the booster doses that were administered shortly before these test were performed. Many were referring to it as super immunity. If there is such a thing as super immunity it would be the natural active immunity made possible by an individual's normal healthy immune system, just as our bodies were designed to do. As you stated, get healthy and stay healthy. lifestyle is a major factor in our overall health. Many diseases and health issues are the result of toxicity and, or deficiency, not to mention the status of one's gut microbiome.✌
@Jim Ferrante i think you should read what he wrote again.....I don't think he has a diff point than you. IMO
First of all - I consider the medical support - general practitioners etc around me to be agents of our Polit-Bureau. They follow the political directives and cannot be depended upon to discuss issues based on their medical training and integrity, should they have any. So their utterances all work out on a "knock for knock basis", some for the official line, and others staying silent (gagged) or confidentially giving other points of view. But all summed up so many "Plusses" and so many "minuses" cancel out to zero. So I ignore them and depend on my own senses and also Dr Google. It is a sad state of affairs. You know, my GP won't lay eyes on me so cannot pgysically assess me. I was once told it was absolutely essential for a GP to see the patient, how they walk, stand, sit, their complexion, view spots, hear how they breathe, and all as they walk to his surgery. How can bood pressure be measured over the phone? All is done over the phone, and if one thinks that through - you will understand my GP asks me what is wrong - and by that I become my own medic, - and I pay his fee for the privillege. But yes, he ensures the pills and potions keep coming and Pharma gets its uninterupted income stream. So much for my preamble. I did well. No Phyzer potions, and it wasn't until a few weeks ago I ( RAT ) tested positive - I have had so many colds and flus thru seven decades that were much worse. However, I do say that these COVID items are of little to no use to me. Data about COVID BA 1, 2 or 3 or 4 or 5 are of no use to me. Nobody tested the virus I had, so who knows which variety it was? Who can tell me? I have listened to items that say BA 5 and later are different, and still an 'unknown quantity'. Where is the information that can be of use to my decision making process? Waste of time. For me one worry arose from all the "Project-FEAR" I had beed subjected to. I recall realising I had a cold, and wondering; is it COVID? - will it get worse - If COVID - how bad might it get? So a fever with sore throat on Friday night, and brain fog for a few days - that is all there was too it. Paracetamol avoided. Phyzer is still not in my blood - and probably is hoping for more PROFIT. I am un-Jabbed and plan to stay that way. I no longer have the slightest fear of COVID. I do fear my sham medical support though.
Hello Dr. Moran. Really enjoy your balanced approach to the data during the pandemic. As a clinician (pharmacist) in the US, I've found myself disagreeing with both political camps and therefore alienated from my friends, family and even colleagues during this pandemic. Your videos are refreshing. You seem like someone that would be nice to discuss medical data with. Take care.
If you want to read: my conservative friends were actively advocating for people to sign DNRs because conservative media was saying "they're killing people with ventilators, don't let them put you on a ventilator!"
Likewise what your channel touches on, liberal media shunning natural immunity and pushing vaccines in all groups.
It's been a wild, divisive ride in the US. Not sure about Canada.
Wow, what an honest doctor! No BS like that from my cardiologist and his research assistant.
Thank you for the great content once again. It’s a shame people stopped paying attention to covid related studies. This video should be getting way more views than what it had
Thanks for the honest reporting, Dr.
hi, doctor moran, sir! your discussion online really helps and benefits us, worth watching. thank you so much.
In my area people that have had the vaccine are getting health complications. Lots of people dying of heart attacks at the moment. My mum at first after getting the vaccine started getting heart palpitations and now she has a itchy rash that covers her whole body.
Can you do a video of complications from taking the vaccine of data from health cares as I can't seem to find any, but I'm seeing alot of it though.
I had an allergic reaction to the J and J shot. I now have heart issues which I never had before, and on meds.
Help her detox! Pine needle tea, NAC supplements, Niacimadine (I think it’s how you spell it lol sorry) Zinc, bentonite clay and Epsom salt baths. Heal… and pray to Jesus
Dr. Moran
You are simply superb
I wish we had more doctors like you.
You explain complicated matters in such lucid manner that any person would understand the same entirely and by heart.
You should be grateful to Almighty for having endowed on you such a fabulous virtue
Having virtues is a personal choice, not bestowed by our Creator. I remember when I made a conscious decision to be virtuous or not. I had a sledding accident as a youngster and my body lay, looking like a lifeless bug. As I was in the air I also looked at the others who crashed into me.
I remember thinking religions have one thing right. We have a soul.
Then I went back into my body. I was extremely weak, drained, it took a long time to get home.
Enjoyed the follow-up with the cats. They are obviously in agreement with the data as presented.
Thank you Dr. Moran!
I saw this. Thanks for talking about this.
Thanks again for your honesty.
Always! Forgot to mention in the video but I have a large natural immunity playlist which has 19 different videos covering many different studies that may be of interest to some viewers.Here is the playlist. ua-cam.com/play/PLw9cU6balv3AbO6UqIhDiwGpV76r2uVDm.html
Our family and all our friends that have had covid have had it once over the last 2 years. It seems everyone we know that have had 2, 3 and 4 shots have had covid 2 and some 3 times almost like they have some sort of reoccurring covid disorder.
Not sure this was the targeted effect but yet this is our experience.
My fam hot Covid in fall 2019. We're unvaxed and I was exposed to Delta but didn't get it. We finally got Omicron in early May. Same symptoms only much milder and cleared it faster and long term effects either time.
Precisely our experience as well. Everyone I know who has been vaxxed has had Covid at least once and many twice. Most now are having increasingly most reactions to the boosters. Many vaxxed are also saying that they are sick with non-Covid infections much more often than prior to the vax.
Where do you and your family and friends live that so many of you got covid?? Most people know only one or two people who got it once, never mind several times for a bunch of people. Your story is very sketchy.
@@51AB canadian west coast, lots of the unvaxed caught a light omicron infection but people with 2 , 3 and 4 shots just seem to keep catching it and not building immunity.
My family caught it from some friends that had 3 and they were on their second go around with it.
@@granttuplin4523 You must all live in the same house. I only know one person who got it. Same for all my family and friends.
Shane Crotty (immunology expert) explained why Covid natural immunity is better. It lasts 10 years. It includes several antibodies, unlike the vaccine. The antibodies are for the current strain, unlike the vaccine. The antibodies include parts of the virus that do not evolve. He explained it in a UA-cam educational video by MIT department of biology. (The video is Still on line).
Link to video plz?
This video, which I made in August last year, is part of that research. ua-cam.com/video/UmPndV304sA/v-deo.html
I have a number of other videos in my natural immunity playlist discussing immunology research by Dr. Crotty and others. There's one interesting study In the playlist on the protection of natural immunity in patients with no circulating antibodies and the protection is very good.
Boston Lincolnshire ua-cam.com/video/5OguBUfcZoA/v-deo.html
interesting facts and feed back
Thanks for allowing the cats the opportunity for disagreement/rebuttal. The fact they said nothing reinforces your information
What we really want to know is how are these vaccines affecting our natural immunity and what are the actuall side effects?
The more I talk to people, (& I don't talk to any outside of work) the more I hear of "vaccinated" people having covid after, side effects, and getting ill...
Fauci got positive covid diagnosis a few days ago ... Stephen Colbert two times in the past few months.
Most of the people that we hear of (in our area) that are getting sick from covid are "vaccinated" people. Many are having serious symptoms. The son of a couple in our church said he is in the hospital with bad symptoms, and he is vaxxed. Very rarely do I hear of our un-vaxxed acquaintances getting sick. Those at my employment that are getting sick and/or testing positive are 'vaccinated'.
@@bryansipes3601 and you are aware they are automacially attribute all the symptoms to covid and none to the vaccine? 😂
Thank you very much again Dr. Moran for your honest information about natural long-term immunity and vaccination immunity in the last version of Covid! At the end of your video the Meow of your cute blond cat gave me a laugh LOL, it is a funny one, almost like a baby crow 😊😸
I adore Dr Moran ... and really like those big fuzzballs.
Thank You!
Dr. Moran, Your videos are very informative. Can you do one explaining Paxlovid? Thank you!
Thank you Stacie! I made one a few months ago ua-cam.com/video/g1NSO8HwBRc/v-deo.html
Thanks Dr. Moran. Please consider raising the microphone to your collar or higher up on your lapel as its difficult to hear you even at max volume
Sorry to hear that. The video played on our video editing software and subsequently on UA-cam with good volume. All of my videos are close captioned with accurate captioning for hearing-impaired individuals so if you're not sure what I say you can always turn out on in the UA-cam player.
Wow. That was clear as mud.
Top class
Do these studies also consider whether those in the study are going out in large crowds daily? I know many with and without vaccination who rarely get out, while others are get out multiple times a week. I had COVID last June, and pretty much stopped wearing a mask shortly after, unless required (such as in airports, etc). I’ve thought about asking my PCP if they would do an immunity test on me to see what my Covid immunity level is. Or is this something you wouldn’t consider very accurate/reliable?
By the way, I know someone personally who was vaccinated(not sure if he was boosted), plus wore an N95 mask, yet still got the most recent one going around. He is one who most likely wore his mask properly as well.
Thank you! Such a cute kitty!
Our pleasure!
And this is one of the big problems we have with medical science nowadays - the actions of governments and corporations are money driven under the veil of public health. The fact that there is a enormous lack of studies, forget about the long term trials, indicates this is first and foremost. Add to that the afforded immunity coupled with a severe lack of care and recognition for the vaccine injured, it all amounts to a single agenda. Then throw on top of that that some governments want to impose a permanent vaccine mandate ... well, I say no more. I have completely lost all confidence in medical science. Even my own GP and health care seem to have been brainwashed in the same way.
Touche in putting those kittehs at the end. I would have watched the whole video anyway, but always good to stick around for the cats
Recently boosted Drs Lorne Segall and Dr Jakub Sawicki and Dr Stephen McKenzie of ontario.passed after boosted 3rd day 4 the and 7 the day
Natural immunity here and alas I have COVID for the second time. Looking forward to finding out what my antibodies will be like after this.
Love the cats 😻 Brightened my day!
How was your experience with Covid the second time?
@@muhammadalieesaa3379 It was MUCH easier. The fever was a lot lower. Sadly the headache was just as bad. The first day of it, I felt awful. The second day, almost back to 100%. The only thing that lingered was a cough. Contrast that with the first time, I was out of commission for a week and my temp was 101 - 102 F.
@@ScaryBoomBoomGun I had Alpha variant in 2021 & I had Omicron when it first started & for me they were like strange colds, I had no shots. Since early 2020 I stopped consuming junk/fast foods & started taking my daily multivitamins.
The Google link below this video that tries to steer the audience to a WHO CV19 website... I don't like it
They tend to do that when the subtitling bots catch related words.
Turn subtitles on for Dr Moran videos whenever you can. It perfectly catches each and every word.
I'm interested to see what the findings will be for BA.4 and BA.5 that are believed will be more pathogenic.
But isn’t it true that ba4 and 5 evade immunity more so then ba 1-3? And if that’s true is that for severe outcome or just symptomatic infection?
What about Memory B and T cell immunity? My understanding is that is where lo9ng term immunity comes from. Do you know that initial antibodies are only part of the story and have little bearing on long term immunity
Dr Moran is aware. He provided links. He didn't go deep in this video. He had said what you have said here in others
Oh knock the pin pushing off. I had delta in oct.. felt like a hangover.. I had omicron BA4/5 last week.. I had a sniffle! I’m a hospitalised asthmatic and completely unv@ccinated.
Where have you been? Hope you are ok!
I watched almost all your videos on analysis of mRNA Vaccine on myocarditis, because I'm got some heart issue and I didn't want to take any mRNA vaccine. I'm no related to medical field, just a person trying to link stuffs together via their similarity points. From what I read POST-COVID and PRE-COVID, here is some interesting points I think science might be aiming at to collect more on mRNA Covid Vaccine:
- Short Story: The keywords of all of this: "Protein Overdose"
- Overdose of Protein is known for its side effects on Heart (myocarditis), Kidney (Nephrotic Syndrome), etc.
- I suffer heart problem after severe stress from 2001 to 2005, experiencing extrasystole each 10-30 seconds at worst, and only each 6 hours to 100 hours or more at best recently. I usually experience side effects on heart when taking protein supplements after 3rd or 4th days in a week.
- Covid19 virus causes your body to create Spike Proteins at the level that your immune system needs them.
- Covid19 infection causes *Myocarditis* to few patients, but very small effects.
- Covid vaccine injection causes your body to *create Spike Proteins too*, just like virus. But *mRNA vaccines are equipped with solution to maximize that Spike Proteins creation* , to make sure your body creates more Spike Proteins than any other type of vaccines. Your body rarely need all those spike proteins if your immune system is strong.
- Covid mRNA vaccine causes *Myocarditis* to a lot of patients, with stronger effects. So it could be that *surplus of Spike Proteins* created that is responsible.
- Covid mRNA vaccine causes *Nephrotic Syndrome* www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC8880359/
- "Nephrotic syndrome is a kidney disorder that causes your body to pass too much protein in your urine." : www.mayoclinic.org/diseases-conditions/nephrotic-syndrome/symptoms-causes
- *SUM (Covid Infection + Covid mRNA Vaccine) = MUCH MORE SPIKE PROTEINS* . Maybe taking vaccine while you are infected without knowing it might just increase the level of Spike Proteins your body will be forced to create, and worsen things.
So at the end, I don't know understand most of these things under the hood, but I really think that Spike Proteins overdose might have something to do with the Heart and Kidney problem of mRNA vaccines.
Thank you, Keitel. I'm surprised evildoers haven't deleted your post for stating too much truth.
Do you eat healthy foods?
Doing activities that make breath fast for 30 minutes?
Are you sleeping 8 hours?
I believe this all helps
It would be more useful to provide this same information with immune blood marker data and antibody data. We need to understand how natural responses compare to mRNA induced responses.
So is it the vaccine that makes ba1 and ba2 a less severe infection, or is it the variant which leads to less severe infection? Do they have comparison data about that?
There have been studies which show that the variant is less severe even accounting for population immunity (vaccination and natural infection)
Not only possible it will wane, it's highly likely!
Day 870, unvaccinated, still haven't gotten Corona Virus despite attending a full Rammstein concert in Stuttgart last week with thousands of people. Still seeing people in masks when I go shopping, feel compelled to ask the if they know what Ivermectin is so they can stop living in fear. Anxious about bureaucrats renewed attempts at implementing compulsory vaccinations & passports. People where so quick to discriminate against the unvaccinated by excluding them from entering stores & working...
blame the government not the people
@@chrisjackson388 People are part of it and too many support unnecessary governmental force.
@@chrisjackson388 Blaming both. Too many sheep 🐑 dumb, stupid and guilble people.
True to a point..
God bless us every one.
We need tribunals for crimes against humanity
What about T and B cells? There may not be any antibodies, but does these react swiftly and how long do they last? I had a bad case of Covid starting the 3rd week of February 2020. I stayed at home and did not go out for 4 weeks. I tested positive for antibodies in November 2021 and have not been sick since. Does getting exposed to the virus after surviving infection act as well as a booster? Does natural immunity help slow or prevent someone from transmitting the virus? There are just so many questions.
This video and link answer all your questions and the answer to most of them is... yes
I'm half a century old, unvaccinated, living in the Los Angeles area w/ a co-morbidity and blood clots I'm on a half dose of Eliquis for, requiring 24/7 oxygen supply pulmonary condition on the 11th day since COVID positive test. Without being able to pick up a pharmaceutical drug called Paxlovid that my doctor had wanted me to take, my symptoms so far haven't been unmanageable except for the overwhelming dehydration from an initial fever I felt ambushed with out of the blue, mostly staying as a stuffy head, cough, occasional phlegm, and feeling wiped out. I've had a worse flu before but this illness does feel like a highly odd group of symptoms, so I really wonder if it was manufactured in a lab as a bioweapon! And I never got infected despite taking crowded public transportation on a daily basis ever since COVID broke out until I happened to get shocked by someone's unexpected legal attacks on me recently that required formal answers to the court system, affecting my immunity. I was getting pretty casual before, although I did the normally expected masking and distancing unless the busses and trains were crowded. Some homeless people don't wear masks and some people are breathing in your face the whole time. I thought I was gonna test negative today but didn't but last night, I felt an overwhelming sense that I've overcome my infection for the most part. I've taken all of the popularly recommended natural supplements everyday. My best friend is a box of tissue for the occasional runny nose. Breathing's mostly been clear. - I feel like boycotting everything sold by China! Mine is a God-believing, God-fearing nation! - My biggest challenge has been how to get food since suddenly quarantining.
Hi, just wear a mask after 5 days and go out, take ivermectin today and all your vitamins, ginger, turmeric, eat healthy during sickness, drink a lot of liquid and get sunlight. Feel better soon.
@@ticah8918 Last night, I felt that I overcame it, it's just a matter of time that a test reflects that it's no longer detected.
@@therealdeal894 i am glad, that is great. Thank you for your message
@@ticah8918 After my 15th day, I tested negative, finally!
I tested negative 2 weeks later and your symptoms were exactly what I went through. It took me 3 weeks + to fully recover. And it wasn’t that i felt horrible at the end, but I mean to start feeling like myself again. The fatigue lingers for so long.
I am glad you said Omicron is a different virus to the Delta and Alpha variants. The Omicron has no ancestors related to the original CoViD-19 virus.
I must have missed that.. this virus is quite the engima.....hmmm
More Americans have died from omicron than Delta.
This ‘natural immunity’ is more correctly ‘adaptive immunity’ i.e. protection after infection with Covid against subsequent exposure to Omicron. The data on vaccinations and boosters will not translate to Uk populations where there was a significantly different dosing regime ( primary dose across 2 months and booster after 6m ) Plus no data on AZ which was extensively used in Uk. Nonetheless a useful presentation. The initial,vaccine research results were on relative risk reduction after all ( not absolute risk reduction ).
God bless your cats.
What about double natural immunity ? I can't find information about it. Why ? Isn't it important ? I had two different variants of covid (beta and omicron) do those 4 time vaccinated with the same thing have a better immunity protection than I ? I have to say that they are allowed to travel, enter hospitals and work normally and not people like me. Each time the "pass" is activated in France.
Crazy isn't it. I had one client, triple jabbed return from the USA who tested positive on the plane coming back to the UK, and another couple of client's (again triple jabbed) who tested positive three days into their holiday to Spain. These passes have NOTHING to do with health, they never have. I had covid in February, unvaxxed and my "good behaviour" award, sorry health pass (that I refuse to download) ends in August (6 months) and even if I caught the cold again, I have no way of proving it as the ability to test using PCR has been removed in the UK. Fortunately I can go on holiday to many other wonderful places that don't require the stupid pass.
Frieda, I have not seen any studies looking at people with multiple natural infections. I certainly have met people with multiple infections. Certainly each reinfection would be expected to give your immune system a boost. As beta and omicron are very different you would have diverse T cell and B cell memory as well as antibodies should you get exposed to the virus again.
@@MedicinewithDrMoran Thank you very much for yous answer (and for taking care of us in the best way you can). It is suspicious that such studies are not being made, since it is fundamental in terms of immunity. I hope this will change (and that studies will compare multiple natural infection vs vaccin and not only multiple natural infection + vaccine vs whatever) since legal restriction are being taken over unvaccinated people and they should be justified not in terms of vaccin but in terms of immunity. Thank you again.
Both kitties are cute
Seems these results do not hold true with newest omicron sub-variants.
Great information and great presentation, as you always do. I think that this is the MOST important presentation because of the many CRITICAL corollaries from it especial given the CDC recent STRONG "guidelines" for vacations of younger kids. This result is NOT surprising given my grade school teaching. What is surprising is the disregard by the USA CDC and FDA of natural immunity as you PROPERLY stated in the first minute of your presentation.
A few comments: 1. People that have been sick and recovered clearly form a group that demonstrated that they can/have overcome this Covid-19 and as such should be expected to fend off another attack. 2. That goes further to the point that after time in some cases you showed NEGATIVE protection in some cases for people that were vaccinated = MORE likely to get sick! In one case it was over -10%! 3. Moreover NEGATIVE protection seems to suggest that getting "vaccinated" with the mRNA vaccine actually reduces the body immune system ability.
Can you address this point in another presentation. I think that there are some direct studies that make this point. Thanks again for you clear presentation and especially your bravery of the explanation/statement in the first minute of this video.
Did your click the link. He explained that in the Covid video
Very well, common sense comment. It's refreshing to read as it seems so many don't see this. Thank you!
I was very sick in november of 2019 and since have not been nearly as sick as that without vaccines.
I had 2 rounds of covid • delta & omicron. Mild in both cases. Type A blood. No vaccine.
Now you know of one person of the millions like me.
I 'am not vaccinated. I have omicron now. I also experienced delta 9 months ago. Omicron is very small bugbear in comparison with delta variant. That is my personal experience. My husband had omicron 3 months ago but I did not catch it in this time.
Out of curiosity Doc, are you still recommending vaccination to young healthy adults?
If he said ‘ no’ UA-cam would ban him. But draw your own conclusions
My take is since the virus has mutated so much the vaccines are less effective. They certainly do not stop spread. They don't prevent catching the virus. The may prevent significant disease but if you ars young, fit and healthy you are already preventing serious diseases by being fit and healthy.
Good diet, sleep, sunlight or vitamin D and exercise will be excellent protection against many illnesses. Together these things reduce stress too!
Ditch the processed sugary salty foods, limit alcohol a lot, don't vape or smoke and do the good stuff. You'll be golden.
@@thebrowns5337 You might have added that the side effect of cardiomyopathy strikes particularly hard at young , fit males
I wish Canadian health authorities would actually read any study which counterargues their narrative.
Why should anyone get even one dangerous dose? Not me. Too much long term danger.
So, how many people died from getting the vaccine? I have 2 friends that were healthy and died of strokes right after the vax. I have one friend that was healthy and a week after the vax had to go on heart medication. I have friends that say they are aware of people that had similar experience’s, (but I don’t personally know those people).
I have 3 friends who all lost family members within 7 days of vaccination. At total of 5 people died. In all but 1 case the people who died had no previous risks and were considered healthy. In the one case the person was also considered very healthy for being 80+ years old.
I have friends who got long term issues after getting vaccinated, but they don’t suspect the vaccine got anything to do with it…
Check the VAERS report. It's not 100% accurate because it only records people who actually make reports. If I'm not mistaken, it's actually only 1% of the population that make actually reports.
I think we've found Diogenes' honest man ...
Joe must go
According to a very recent study produced by Imperial College London and published in Science, "People infected with the Omicron variant show poor immune boosting against future SARS-CoV-2 infection." Professor Danny Altmann, from Imperial’s Department of Immunology and Inflammation, said: "Not only can [Omicron] break through vaccine defences, it looks to leave very few of the hallmarks we’d expect on the immune system - it’s more stealthy than previous variants and flies under the radar, so the immune system is unable to remember it.” So it seems 'natural immunity' provides little protection against future Omicron infection.
Did this reduced number of hallmarks on the immune system correlate with more severe disease progression though. By the way, I assume they didn't just looked at antibody levels.
@@molybdane7240 I am not knowledgeable enough to analyse the study, I an just highlighting it in case others want to look into it.
Imperial no longer has a shred of credibility left as an academic medical institution. We should close them down in relation to their disease related activities and leave them to the widgets they started with. And then export the rest of the institution, ideally.
What you're saying is not science based. The Qatar study alone proves what you are saying is inaccurate
@@damita4336 All I'm doing is referring to an article in Science. I'm not making any claims because I'm not qualified to do so.
So I recovered from omicron about a month ago. No jabby. What now ?
Your cat creaks like my door, you might want to give him a little grease!
I know someone who is unbaked was in the hospital the first 2 times and is now getting I over it the third time now. Corrinavirus immunity only last 6 to 8 months. This has been known since the 1960s
What does baked mean
It's effective to boost the pharmas profit.
Moderna sales 2019 600 Million and a net loss. First 6 months of 2022? over 10 BILLION in sales
I appreciate all that you do. However, still doesnt change canada and the trudope govt.
Is there a possible correlation between the abnormal rise in Monkey Pox cases and the fact that certain vaccines employ chimpanzee adenovirus vaccine vectors??
Nick Nemeroff a
comedian in Israel is not laughing after his 3 Rd shot...
What happened to the 95% effectiveness we were promised? Dr Moran for CDC director.
I thank the Lord,Im 69,unvaxx,God is good❤❤❤
Everybody a docter nowadays❗️❗️❗️😂😂😵💫😵💫
Hello I’m new to your channel I have a question though does the Covid vaccine alter your DNA so you’re more resistant to the disease?
The mRNA in the vaccine does not enter the cell nucleus, so your DNA is not affected.
I find it interesting that he has to go to a study by a country like Qatar to review a study such as this. You would think that the mighty USA would produce a study such as this , or maybe they don't want to show the real truth about the failure of this so called vaccine .
BIG PHARM rules the USA and the World Quatar is an independent state!
Thanks. That's a very clear, calm presentation of the study results. My understanding is that vaccination is still the least risky way to defend oneself and I'm hopeful about better vaccines in the future. "Natural immunity" means having this vile, dangerous virus in the body with all the risks of long covid and other damage later in life. BTW I like your cats
Having a blood clot is vile too, but u can survive it. Having a heart attack or sepsis is vile but again u can recover.
Nah there are many less risky treatments, that actually help the body, not harm it
Why is there not a vaccine for the omicron stage of the virus?
The current vaccines are still highly effective against severe disease and death.
I never got the vaccine I got COVID 6 months ago I've been around people with COVID since and haven't got it again but I know vaccinated people that have had it multiple times how is that possible.
My dad in perfect health tried natural immunity, he died from COVID.
Sorry for your loss, God bless 🙏
@@christinediecidue9741 thank you, Not sure this makes sense: I’ve come to accept it wasn’t necessary, except it was necessary.
Be good if old Dr fauci could follow the data instead of the following the 💰 🤑
Short-term for vaxxing, but msm will out that bit!
When is the world going to make China pay for this
Natural immunity is bad for business;)
We all know long term effects of boosters are shite. Why else would they push boosters in the first place?!
The trouble with "natural immunity" is that you don't get to pick and choose your level of viral load. Even with the benefit of 20-20 hindsight, nobody knows what level of viral load led to any of the COVID-19 cases.
Also, it's clear that "natural immunity" doesn't work very well. If it did, reinfections would still be rare, and the pandemic would have been over a year ago.
Incorrect, because you don't know how many reinfections are spreading because of the immunized.
Jason, Thank you for commenting. We actually do know what level of viral load leads to COVID-19 cases. This was tested in the human challenge study that I made a video on many months ago where they gave a specific amount of the virus to healthy 18-29-year-olds in England In order to infect them. Reinfections were initially very uncommon with the initial variants but this has changed with omicron as you point out.If reinfections were rare then the concept of herd immunity would come into play. This virus is like a lot of other respiratory viruses in that symptomatic and asymptomatic reinfections occur but severe disease is very uncommon. Best regards to you.
Where have you been? Hope you are ok!
Hi Carol! I'm doing well, thank you for asking. I took some time off to spend with my family and prepare for the next set of videos, because they are more detailed than the others.