Crashing 31 Seconds After Takeoff in Chicago | TWO Deadly Flights (With Real Audio)
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- A Boeing 747 cargo aircraft crashes into two high-rise apartment complexes in Amsterdam, Netherlands, 13 minutes after takeoff. 13 years prior, an American Airlines DC-10 begins its takeoff from runway 32R at O'Hare International. During the takeoff roll, its left engine detaches from the wing, causing a loss of control. After the separation of the engine from the wing, passengers and crew will live 31 seconds of pure horror.
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My wife of 6 months was one of the 272 people that died on 5.25.79. Worse crash on American soil and still is if today. Worse day of my young life.
So sorry.
I am so very sorry that you had to go through such a horrible and tragic experience.
what do you mean by 6 months?
I can't begin to imagine the heartache...so sorry for your loss.
@@marcospark2803Duration of marriage.
I lived in the apartments that the 747 crashed in to. I was enjoying a nice warm bath at the time when all of a sudden there was a massive bang and it blew all my windows out. I'm amazed I survived
Damn your lucky
Whenever you see a video starting with a DC-10... you know bad shit is going to happen.
The Death Cruiser.
The co-pilot on the El Al flight bravely and definitively declaring they were going down when he knew there was no chance of recovery is chilling and inspiring. He was a professional right to the end. The fact they kept control of an aircraft that was so mortally wounded for almost 5 minutes is a tribute to their skill and calm reasoning. I think they would have been devastated to know their plane killed so many on the ground. The crew of 191 had so little time to do anything especially flying an aircraft with degraded information and warning systems. I'm sure a pilot like Captain Lux could have saved his plane had he known about the stall condition. Both crashes are so sad.
yes,, terribly sad, they were just SO close to the airport !
Hearing him declare they were going down immediately brought tears to my eyes.
That's what I took away from this video as well, the Captain declaring they were going down. That, and the fact that the plane impacted the people on the ground.
If that were me flying the plane I'm afraid I would be screaming in fear.
American Flight 191 impacted the ground just 10 seconds after it began to roll left: you can see a more accurate re-creation of the crash at ua-cam.com/video/YpUopLotgWk/v-deo.html
It was almost impossible to react in time, especially given the lack of stall warning (because it was powered by the lost #1 engine).
@@f1sh_st1cks For me, it was the co-pilot making an almost primal "aww" sound, when the realisation of his own demise hit him. At least it was relatively quick. Though I imagine each moment felt like a lifetime.
As he's looking death in the face, the FO's matter-of-fact “we're going down”, is utterly heart-rending.
The fact that he's doing reuploads means that there are no new crashes to report. Which is ultimately, a GOOD thing.
Exactly.
But remember, there’s a lot more accidents in the past that hasn’t been covered yet. Maybe he’s out of ideas.
There have been hundreds of crashes in the past four decades that haven't been covered here.
he still has not done japan airlines 123 and it is the single deadliest plane crash i wonder why he is not making it
@@classictrios8896Actually he did.
I'll never forget that crash in Amsterdam that evening. Many in the Netherlands will still remember where they were. Such a tragedy.
lex1945 likewise, pilots did there very best to return to Amsterdam airport. They were experencing situation that perhaps may have never experienced even in a simulator setting. Have reviewed this video numerous times. Can't imagine residents of complex, looking out there windows, seeing a craft boring down on them. Many residents were situated in another area of the complex, not involved in incident. Overall a tragic incident.
@lex1945 yes understand completely. Its amazing that they were able to fly that distance trying to get back to skiphol airport on 2 engines. They perhaps unaware during do flight they lost two engines and leading edge capability, unfortunately they realized the situation and it was an uncoverable one.
Design flaws and maintenance issues seem more lethal than pilot error.
Flying is the easy part. people underestimate the importance of design and maintenance
Somewhat true, pilot error is statistically the cause of most airplane crashes
As I understand it, the American Airlines crash was caused by technicians installing the engine with a forklift, rather than the prescribed chain fall. The guy running the forklift rammed the engine into the pylon, causing a crack in the pylon that went unnoticed. This crack caused the pylon to fail and the engine to seperate. The technician later commited suicide before he could be tried in court.
Could you describe a chainfall?
@@ronaryel6445 A chain fall, also known as a chain hoist or chain block, is a manual lifting device used to lift and lower heavy loads. It consists of a chain or cable that is wrapped around a wheel or sprocket, which is attached to a hook. The hook is used to connect the chain fall to the load that needs to be lifted.
@@CorvetteKing Thank you.
Also, the Boeing recommended procedure is to remove the engine separately, then the pylon, and reverse to put them back. Taking them apart was much more labor and $$$ than removing them together, so American and other airlines cut corners.
The 1st crash was caused by defective fuse pins, which causes the engine to detach and hit the outer engine. And also on the second crash, the pilots follow the wrong procedures because they thought it was engine failure when in fact, the engine got detached
In the first incident, the Captain of the El Al flight recognized, too late, that he had no flaps on the right side. This is not easy to recognize. Other air crews have died from this. Contributing to this was El Al's failure to properly inspect the engine and pylon and replace fatigued components. On the other hand, in February of 1989, a United Airlines flight, 811, suffered a failure of a right side cargo door on a 747-100, which resulted in damage to the right wing's flaps and the loss of nine passengers. Captain David Cronin and copilot Greg Slader recognized the subtle asymmetry in lift and chose to deploy only the inboard flaps. This allowed them to return to Honolulu International and make a safe landing. It was an example of outstanding airmanship.
Wow! That's incredible that they recognized that. I was wondering why the El Al pilots couldn't also recognize this as well.
On El Al Flight 1862, the video makes it appear that the flight engineer did not report the complete failure of the number 4 hydraulic system to the pilots. If the pilots had been given this information, they would have known that the outer wing trailing edge flaps would be inoperative.
However, I'm not sure that the crew could have known about the failure of the right wing leading edge slats, which caused asymmetric lift on the aircraft.
@@timonsolus I thought certainly someone could have seen the condition of the wing and engines if they had only looked out a right-side window to assess it.
@@BillGreenAZ : One, the co-pilot was very busy. Two, the co-pilot could only see the right wing from the position of the number 4 engine outwards. Three, it was dark (nighttime). Four, the wing wasn’t on fire.
@@timonsolus Agreed, although retracting the flaps earlier might have made an important difference by itself - but I can't say that for sure.
Two people complaining about a reupload and 30 people complaining about the people complaining
And I'm complaining about you complaining about the 30 people complaining about the 2 people complaining.
I would like the site operator to create new stories.
Plus you.
And yourself included.
I was going to complain about the low quality of the video, but visiting the comments section made me realize it was a re-upload!
RIP
To the three crew members and one passenger of El Al Flight 1862 and the 39 people on the ground
Knowing that maintenance did a gosh awful job of keeping the aircraft airworthy makes me ill
I was 2 miles from the crash site and heard the woomp, woomp, woompa sound of fuel tanks blowing up in the crash. I worked for Flying Tigers and went into the airacraft maintanence department and said someone just lost an aircraft. They tune in the tower and they were calling the flight. The wind was right down the runway that day and the smoke created a black line diagnolly across all of Ohare airport that just seem to hang in the air for a long time.
I was working in downtown Chicago when the AA191 flight crashed. I could see the smoke rising from O'Hare. We turned on a radio and heard the flight number. I ran to my office to pick up my paperback book where I was using my boarding pass as a bookmark. American flight 191, two weeks prior to the crash. Was probably the same plane.
I was in 6th grade and lived in Glenview, IL when 191 went down and remember it well. We were leaving that day to drive to Missouri to visit my grandmother and great grandmother, but had to detour well around the airport. What a horrific event.
One thing I've learned from this channel, is planes should never turn to the side they have power out. So in this case, the plane should never make right turns. Were the flight controllers and flight crew aware of this at the time or has that become an instruction since?
My mom told me they could see the smoke from the Bijlmer crash on the horizon from their village some miles away when they were having their sunday evening walk. She said the sky turned orange.
It crashed 10 kilometers from my house. I wil never forget that evening. I was watching sports. All the TV channels switched to the horrible news at once
@TomThumb-db2uh Why liar?
@TomThumb-db2uh I don't speak that language
Nicely done graphics on this one! I hadn't watched before, even if it is a re-up.
Cheryl Roberts
This is up there with the saddest aircraft crashes
I don’t know anything about planes and engines, but I don’t understand why they did not abort the takeoff after the explosion.
They were past their V1 speed, meaning the shouldn't abort unless the aircraft is no longer airworthy, and they didn't know the severity of the incident.
if they knew the condition of the wing, they would have been able to compensate and stay airborne.
Assuming you're talking about Chicago. There is a point in takeoff called V1. That is the point at which the plane has reached a speed that means it can no longer be safely stopped on the runway. They must take off at that point no matter what. They had just passed V1 and so had to take off. Had the engine merely failed, they would have been fine and been able to save it. But it detached and damaged their slats and hydraulics. They would have had no way of knowing that. Either way, attempting to abort the takeoff at that point would have caused it to crash off the end of the runway. Taking off was the correct call...it was just not flyable based on the info the pilots had in this case.
Because there would be a 99% chance of going off the runway and crashing into buildings, antenna arrays, etc.
@@theMoerster thank you for the explanation.
@@niftybass thank you very much.
I still remember that day in May in 1979. I was just shy of 19 and working in West Chicago. I left work and could see the smoke rising from the direction of the airport. I can still see the smoke all the drive home. Strange thing is, my wife died May 29th 1992.
Can you make videos about Patsy Cline, Ricky Nelson, Buddy Holly, Richie Valens, Big Bopper, Lynard Skynard, Jim Croce...all the famous people that have died in plane crashes?
For the second one, I don't understand why they still took off after engine explosions and systems failures.
Beyond V1 speed, so if they had tried to abort, a crash would have been certain, there wouldn't be enough room to stop before the end of the runway.
The failures took time to show up on the instruments. The pilots had no idea the engine had fallen off. This happened on 12th birthday.
I was ten and live 15 miles from O’Hare. After school we were playing at the school playground and saw the plume of smoke rise. I had an Aunt and my Grandmother were nurses at a hospital in the area. They all went into mass casualty mode, I don’t know the official term, for injured that never arrived.
So very sad.😢May God Bless them all 🙏🏻
I remember that crash. I lived in Des Plaines, Illinois, back then, about 10 to 15 minutes from O'Hare Airport. It was totally devastating!!
I remember the O'Hare crash. I was on my way to work in Elk Grove Village, just outside of the airport. Did not see the crash but saw the smoke from it. We were shocked to hear about the loss of life when it broke in the news shortly after.
Heartfelt condolences 😢
Lost beautiful souls ❤
How absolutely tragic.
That s the Bijlmerramp (Bijlmer disaster in dutch), I ve saw it on the news with my parents and was shocked to hear. This plane was so unlucky as were the people living in the building that got hit.
I was 14 years old in 1979 and had a newspaper route three days a week. I remember the picture of that airplane on it’s side when it covered half the front page of that edition. It was kind of eery looking at it with every paper I folder that morning.
It was a local newspaper that mostly covered stories in and around the California desert and rarely had any national news, so it was kind weird seeing a story about a plane crash from Chicago in our little paper
The DC10 could have flown, it had enough air speed and control. If they had known the wing had stalled, if they would have firewalled the remaining engines it would have continued to fly. Training and procedures were amended along with airframe and indication modifications. We used to get a message occasionally when a DC10 crashed to tell us the engine didn’t come off during the incident . Actually a fine aircraft, especially the series 30.
I loved working on the DC10-10 and the DC 10-30. Great memories. I used to sit in the 1 left jump seat most of the time 😊
Primary issue is that the crew had no indication that the left engine had physically from the aircraft so they followed standard engine failure on takeoff procedures, which at the time called for climb to 800 feet at Vmc or something like that.
@@GFK256 Yep, the line to all the warnings was severed when that engine came off. I think redundancy was built-in after this accident.
@@peggyl2849 Yes, as were slat locks to prevent aerodynamic pressure from blowing in the leading edge slats, which really cased an issue. Now, once extended, they are locked in the selected position.
Engine 3: "Aight imma head out"
Few months ago I looked up the video of the ‘Bijlmerramp’ in Amsterdam. Now I can see the re-upload Again…. No changes, exactly the same video….
The way the plane started to fall kind of reminded me of flight 102 not the WAY it descended but it’s height and speed
I'd have thought a better crash to pair with El Al Flight 1862 would be China Airlines Flight 358, as that was an almost identical 747 crash where the #3 engine came off the wing and smashed off the #4 engine as well.
Fortunately that was also a cargo flight, and no-one was killed on the ground.
Both of these are repeats, and yes Im saying both are repeats.
Can you please repeat what you said?
@@enigmawyoming5201 I’ve seen both of these incidents on the Flight Channel. How’s that?
So what? Doesn't make them any less interesting. Especially to those who haven't seen the earlier versions. Get a life.
The Flight Channel has a sure and deft touch when discussing the deaths involved, but this time they missed. The apartment hit by the El Al plane was fully occupied, and 39 residents died. The Flight Channel failed to mention these deaths.
Thank you, have seen both before, would be nice if you left comments on long enough for us to read them fully, again thanks
Having watched this channel for a year now, I am now terrified to ever fly again and it’s been 27 years since the last one from Seoul to Detroit
Just to let you know on how not to be very scared about flying and to give you some info about what you could do to get flying again;
1. Flying is in fact the safest way of transport
2. There is less than 1 in 11 *million* of a chance of you getting into a plane crash
3. If an engine fails, or if something fails, the plane would almost certainly not crash. A plane can still fly with at least 1 engine running. If all engines are out, the aircraft can glide for a while.
4. Turbulence in flight will not take down your aircraft
@@GabroPlayz in regard to the plane gliding with all engines out, I thought that would have been an option for the El Al plane as soon as it was found that steering hard left resulted in a right turn of the plane. That would tell me something was wrong with the bird and to try gliding if even for a bit to see if that resolved the issue. If that was the case, they could have restarted the two left engines and reset the flaps and continued to fly until they had to reduce speed again to land and then glide.
@@BillGreenAZ : El Al 1862 did not have enough altitude to attempt gliding. Gliding costs thousands of feet of altitude, and engine restarts take time.
@@GabroPlayz Well Said
The Bijlmerramp never fails to horrify me or to make tears run down my face, despite having happened more than 3 decades ago. Just seeing the El Al 747 at Schiphol triggered that memory instantly. Knowing the crew was doomed from the outset, and the absolute carnage and pandemonium it would cause on the ground... it's still devastating to watch.
shon yes absolutely, even though this incident many years ago, can't imagine still able to fly with both engines out. It may have been a blessing it was a cargo with 3 occupants, unfortunately they were not able to make airport. Yes, it was a tragic incident.
The 747 made right turns with the right engines delivering no trust (well they were gone but they didnt know that). I remember from other videos a multi engine plane should make no turn to the side with the failed engine, yet it was all right turns. I wonder about that.
There is a detail missing from the second plane crash, it had a monitor installed in the front of the cabin, connected to a forward looking camera. It was meant to give the passengers a view usually only available to the pilots. 😑
The engine fixpoint was damaged when they used a forklift to install a new engine. The forklift lacks the necessary fine control, they bumped the engine into the pylon, damaging the fixpoint. Using a forklift works much faster than the proper method, so profit above safety as usual.
The cabin monitor is true and as a result of this crash it is no longer provided. AA did not achieve much of a profit on this crash but your point is still valid. Remember the Ford Pinto that had an exploding gas tank to save a few dollars? A memo was discovered which compared the cost of passenger deaths against the cost of a simple corrective fix.
Terribly sad :( I am so fascinated by planes and so scared too even if most of the time its safe.
I have a friend who moved 3000 miles away. She wants me to visit her. I keep saying "you ain't getting me on no airplane!"
I flew a couple of times in the 70s. It scared me. I'm afraid of flying. 🛩️
I saw a lengthy documentary years ago about the Chicago crash ... it had said that when the engine came off, it cut power to the captain's controls leaving the copilot flying. Apparently a co pilot stick shaker was optional when the aircraft was ordered but was not requested. .. it was a long time since I watched it so my memory might not be right. Anybody else out there ever hear this? Would it have changed the outcome?
I think the FO was flying it from the start.
All 271 aboard AA 191 killed, plus 2 people on the ground.
Still the deadliest aviation accident ever to occur in the USA.
Two very sad cases. RIP all souls lost on the planes but also on the ground.
Rudder, rudder, rudder...and never turn into the dead engine(s)........
I mean, turning into the dead engine(s) is easier than trying to fight it. They just had to avoid overrolling.
As always, very good. Complaining or not, every comment counts! 😉
I like to go in my backyard and cover myself with dirt and pretend im a carrot
Beware of giant rabbits.😅
Your work is simply incredible. Absolutely incredible!
ey yo! what about chakri dadri mid air collision!!!?
How horrible, all the lives lost.
The advanced technology of aircraft production includes instruments, indicators, warning lights, information displays, etc.
But it is surprising that there is no simple camera (or even a rearview mirror) in the cockpit to see the engines.
Watching the pilots try and rotate the plane left with the sticks but their plane kept rolling to the right was chilling.
Can you do a video about malev flight 240?
2 plane crashes caused by detachable engines
I wonder why the non rev jump seater didnt hop up and go in the back and look at the engines. I used to jumpseat on Ryan Air a lot and had to do that one night on a 727
If you are referring to EL AL it is a freighter that has no passenger windows. I have a 360 degree view around my car but somehow they can't (or won't) provide the same facility in a commercial aircraft. Modern military fighters do have 360 degree visibility so it can be done.
During take off? You should have been fired then.
@@deepthinker999 thank you
It’s new to me!
Tragic events caused by mechanical and design failures. RIP to all those poor souls.
the engine on the dc10 left engine pylon and people were saying they saw vapor or smoke coming out of the engine and the pylon engine got off to the wing of the dc 10 when they continue climbing the slats retracted themself leading to a banking left sadly the dc 10 crashed
Flight 191 was so close to keeping that wing from stalling. 6kn, or 6.9mph. That’s a SLOW run for a human, yet enough to be the difference between a DC-10 wing stalling or not. ✈️
This is why we don’t reduce speed following an engine failure any more.
Knew this was a reupload.
The First Officer are very young he's 32 yrs old that time of his death😢
If there were new crashes, nobody would have the balls to fly ever again. I know I wouldn't.
Tesla should tech to airplanes builder how to put cameras to cover 360 degree view
Thats what I hate about flying. You just never know if your on one thats going to go down. You have no control.
Safest way to travel >_>
The pilot was a pro right until the end.
@tmp1111 absolutely they knew that the flight was a uncoverable one. They did there very best understanding loss of two engines, leading edge capability.
Hindsight is 20/20, but if they had aborted the take-off as soon as they heard the loud bang (Chicago flight) it "might" have saved them, and at the very least increased the chances of survival. But then again, it probably took them 10 to 15 seconds just to access and grasp the gravity of the damage and loss of controls, and by then, it was simply too late to do much of anything.
Agreed. They hadn't reached V1 yet, so an immediate shutdown might have resulted in a runway overrun, but that's better than a crash.
After the engine had fully separated, they reached V1 already. They had no other choice.
My understanding is that the F.O. had flight controls while the Captain did not. Given the time in the air it would be difficult to discover that information.
@@deepthinker999 No, what the Captain actually lost was his flight _instruments_ (including the stall warning).
@@GCarty80 You are correct the Captain lost his flight controls but the F.O. did not although he likely was unaware of that. If the F.O. knew he could have maintained control of the airplane. FYI the Captain was a very senior and well experienced pilot.
Nice vid
Well done. You however made a mistake at 3:38. Schiphol didn't have 36L/18R until 2003. So they would've taken off from 36C/18C (then known as 36L/18R until 2003)
You’re wrong. Before the current 18R/36L was built, the current 18C/36C was designated 18R/36L.
😔
I still can't understand why the captain of the DC10 didn't abandon the take-off as the plane was not at V1 when the accident occurred.
The safety of the passengers should be their first concern, not saving the plane. The plane may have run out of runway and crushed but there would most likely many survivors.
RedNightDragon1 in my head was asking same question, its seems they they as you said not in a v1 configuration. Why wasn't that takeoff aborted.
Because in almost every case, stopping is more dangerous than flying it off.
@@peteconrad2077 Yes, but what goes up, must come down eventually.
@@paulrelgne2149 yes, and it can come down in a controlled manner once the crew have completed drills, made a rational and considered decision. In the overwhelming majority of cases this is how it happens.
Why oh why are there not many cameras inside and outside of every airplane for decades already installed? Every frigging Tesla car has many cameras but planes not one?? That is insane and no explanation why they would not do that with tiny cameras in very high resolution that could show the pilots instantly what is going on outside to assess a situation and then make the best decision possible!
Because in cases like these they are useless.
Why no outside viewing cams ?
They’re not as good as you imagine.
It amazes me that modern day aircraft don't have 360 Degree Camera Views - if the pilots would have seen the engine 3/4 were completely severed could have changed there course of action, there a difference when a engine has failed as opposed to being severed off and causing more damage - many cars have full 360 degree camera systems
Selecting a camera system, rotating though the numerous possible views… all takes too long. Of no use.
Also ,though I like ur channel, please mention the time in the title correctly. I cannot be just 31 seconds after take off. Thank you
It’s exactly that.
there was a lady on the chicago plane that really shouldnt have been there. she was suppose to leave a week later but she was terrified to fly so her husband talked her into leaving earlier so she would get it over with asnd not be stressed all week.
I don't care what any armchair "expert" says... You are taught to bank into the good engine. They should have been making LEFT turns to avoid asymmetrical yaw issue, which clearly happened here and is in the official writeup.
It’s not a big deal in jets and I’m not an armchair expert. I’m an ATPL with time on the 747.
Do flight 191 Dc-10
Am i the only wondering... how did the ✈ plane take off at 18:22....and at 17:28 the controller asks if they want to return 🤔
I've seen several videos on this and other channels of incidents from flights from and to JFK. Could it be the Kennedy curse?
Even an AI bot beats READING a video!!
No information about the causalties.
For $50 I can get an all-weather rear view camera for my car. In a $400,000,000 plane, couldn't they put a couple in that point at the engines?
The F22 has it, full 360 vision of the entire plane.
They could if they were of any use. They’re not though.
I have a piece of the ElAl plane at my house, my father was a klm fireman
Comming back from a motorshow in essen germany and entering our little village , we saw a huge fireball explosion, no mobile phones yet..so we went to have a look where and what exactly this was
We arrived in amsterdam (20 km) and after some running around with already a huge crowd of people ..we stood almost right in front of the burning flats …
What an inferno….
Some time later i joined my father in a 24hr shift at the firestation at schiphol klm, i was 19 at that time
On one of fhe drive arounds with him he said: that that container holds wreckage parts of the elal airplane …already sorted out
Well…now it’a been with my for the last 32 years
Aluminium with the green protective caoting on ghe inside and the ElAl blue on the outside
Wouldn't be a flight channel upload without caption spelling errors
It's very sad how this channel went from high-quality videos to trashy, reuploads.
Commercial airports should have runways long enough for any airplane to takeoff AND land directly in front of them at takeoff speed.
Please don't blabber about costs in response.
Relapsing in a runway you’ve just lifted from is a sure way to end up in a disaster.
If ur seeing re uploadz maybe it's time to get a job.
Did not crash into open field. Crashed into Mobile home Park in Des Plaines illinois
Guys stop stop telling flight channel what to do its his channel he can do whatever he wants so stop bitching about reuploads
doesn't matter its old
@@nickolliver3021 They have an off switch you know.
@@pumba1054 and
It’s getting repetitive. So I’m still gonna complain about him reuploading older content.
@@mawj09eas4 stop whining...if ya don't like it, don't watch it.
Bro do Japan airlines 516
This was NOT in Chicago..
Lowering the flaps was a fatal mistake and could have been avoided, but perhaps it would not have helped. The pilots could have engaged the flight staff to help look out that side of the airplane. The PAX could also have said something, since they would have seen the engines departed. The point is that you don't try that with obvious damage on the airplane.
The flaps are required for take off. You can’t take off without them. By the time they’re asked someone to look about and then be told they’d have already crashed.
@@peteconrad2077 I don't think you actually understood the video.
@@scottfranco1962 I think you didn’t. In a 30 year airline pilot and I think you’ve missed by a mile.
😮 "Oh... MY GAWD!!!" 😰 "...Damn...." May 25th 1979 Air Traffic-Controller Intercom audio voice-recordings at time of crash... RE-Mastered.
-- Source: ABC-TV News.
The DC-10 was the 737 Max of its day. Like earlier crashes, this crash was caused in part by poor design, the loss of hydraulics caused an incommanded retraction of the slats on one wing instead of them remaining in the safe position. Other than that the plane should have been recoverable.
There was nothing out of ordinary for the hydraulic design for 1979. This is in no way the fault of the aircraft. The crash was caused by lazy AA maintenance procedures that ran counter to the manufacturer instructions. DC10 had a better safety record than the 747 and most other widebody jets of its era. The only major design flaw was the cargo door that led to a crash, which would have been avoided if Turkish Airlines had followed a maintenance bulletin issued following an earlier incident. It continued flying into the 2020's with few incidents. It's bad reputation was never deserved otherwise.
There were also 2 major incidents involving the rear cargo door. American Airlines 96(where the plane landed safely) and Turkish Airlines 981 (crashed killing all 346 occupants).
Actually I'd consider the MD-11 to be a closer equivalent to the 737 MAX, in that both aircraft were upgrades of a previous design (the DC-10 or the 737 NG) intended to improve fuel efficiency, but which introduced a dangerous deficiency in the handling.
In the case of the MD-11 it was because the horizontal stabilizer was made too small, while in the case of the 737 MAX is was that the engines were mounted too far forward (due to their greater diameter).
@@theMoerster I believe that FedEx is still flying them.
@@GCarty80 Pilots were never told or trained on new software enhancements on the 737MAX in order to save some money on training. I don't even think that the airlines were even told.
Even if the pilot lnew what happened IDK that it could have been recovered and landed safely