2024 Triumph Daytona 660 | This is not what I expected!
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- 2024 Triumph Daytona 660 | This is not what I expected!
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I actually took delivery of mine on Thursday last week, still running it in but I absolutely love it and the look
Enjoy mate, it's a gorgeous bike.
Enjoy!
@@Englishbikerdan thanks! I had a trident before as my first bike and that was down to your review :)
What OEM shoes does it come with Rosso corsa ?
The guy at tyre shop was teaching me a few things other day, time well spent listening to him. He was suggesting the tyres on my street triple 660 a were a bit Noob unfriendly as not the grippiest of tyres in cold and wet etc
I got on fine as it happened but something to think about when new … I’d be interested in more opinions
daytona 675 is one of the best bikes ever made
the 660 is nice
This bike keeps growing on me. It's now on my short list for a new bike. Been riding one year and have only owned used bikes. I think the red is the best color offered on this.
What a looker. Pity there's so little suspension adjustability.
made to price
I miss 'normal' sized tail units. These little stubby ones don't suit every bike. Kinda makes this one look like two halves of two different bikes. I guess the softer styling suits the sort of bike it is.
(my last bike did have a stubby tail so i'm already contradicting myself but it did suit the rest of the bike(RSV4 RF))
Ah dude you're the first other person to mention this! I HATE the stubby tail, it loses the sexy aero look. I much prefer the back end looking sharp and almost pointed back
I miss them too. It just looks unbalanced when they make the back end stubby. On top of that you lose what should be a nice little storage area and a decent sized pillion seat.
Give the bikes a nice bit of bodywork behind the seat and a proper rear light and mudguard.
Spot on...why on earth every fuckin manufactures adopting this tiny rear seat thingy...🥵🥵🥵🥵🥵😡😡😡😡😡
Same.
I’ll wait for the Yam R9 in anniversary colours
is it confirmed🥺
Ten Kate team have confirmed they are racing a 900 Yamaha next season and this doesn’t seem to be a viable base.
MotoGP just confirmed 850 engines too… R9 is basically just a given at this point 👌🏻
since you guys seem to be into this topic- do you assume these 900 bikes to be like a torquier 600, ducati supersport for example or do you think they will have like 150hp. what do you think? i don‘t watch gp i just ride my kawa650 2012 and want an upgrade 😂
@@BrokerThings xsr 900/mt09/r9 would be the best upgrade for you apart from the litreclass stuff or the 1300s
Very much a looker.
Must say Dan, that I generally find your reviews the best for most riders. There are too many YTubers (MF particularly) that I get to the end and think...'well I didn't learn anything useful'
Thanks for this great video. I testrode this bike and loved the engine and the lovely sound from that triple. I am 6’2 and have a long upperbody and found the riding position a little to much lending forward for me. (Not as bad as the Yamaha R7). The dealer said you cant rise the bars which is bad. Its a lovely looking bar and love the look at the front. Not sure though from the side at the front looks like they missed something in the design here. There is one bike out there and its the Honda cbr650r. That bike is even more pretty. The new model is gorgeous. Never ride a cbr650r so i have to. How do you compare the riding position of the honda to this Daytona? Is it as much lent forward or less? Would like you to do a comparing video of thoose bike. I know its an inline 4 against a triple but anyway regarding handling, riding position etc. Would appreciate if you can do such a video.
Like the Aprilia RS660 but think its a little bit plastic looking at the front and not sure about the quality with their former issues. Nothing beats Honda and Triumph regarding quality
I have the 660 Tuono factory - love it. Daytona looks a good alternative.
I wouldn’t bet on the tyre pressures being correct Dan (hence the odd handling)
I had a test ride on a Street Triple 765RS last year where both tyres WOULD have been under inflated by 9psi had I not checked them before I set off….
Yeah, good innit!? You said basically the same as I did, which is good! Same tyres too it seems.
Certainly surprised me anyway, better than I thought it would be, although I had a fairly open mind going in to this one. Front end for sure, feels stiffer and slower to steer than I thought it would.. Maybe it's the steel frame and rake of the front end. Different bars and setup to the 765 of course so guess hard to compare handling given the wider bars.
Nice review! I rode a white one, but good to see that your demo was alot drier than mine! 🤣👍😎. I got hail stones!
Be good to see your comparison vs the Gsx8r if you get the chance, doubt there's much between them, but suspect the Suzuki is lighter and more fluid & eager on it's feet. 👍😎
I'd wait for the R9
Two different categories
@@LudoMCM I agree but the old Daytona wasn't far off the mt09
@@johnnybloodshoes7401 was better 😏
Like the bike. Did you check the tyre pressures? Probably find the front had 10psi in it.😂
Lovely looking bike, love that they brought the Daytona name back.
What a stunning beautifull bike! Reminds me of my former TT600 which served me very well for 13 years.
Also impressive brakes and good built quality. Never complained about its (4 cyl) engine, however this 660 is from what I have seen right now a pure gem. the only downside is the front suspension. Where the TT600 gave me massive confidence, no fear at all weather or road conditions, this budget front fork makes me a bit cautious. Will ik buy one and trade in my 2007 Tiger 1050?
Could thicker oil make some improvements?,,,pff question marks, doubts and hesitation.
Best regard from the Netherlands
Thank you for the informative video.
Will take a test ride myself but this probably would not be my next bike coming from the Street Triple S.
A R9, 675SR or F3 it is.
Currently Im not riding my 2014 675r, so I thought about selling it, but every new bike release makes me think I’ll regret if I do it. Every bike now is looking cheaper and without the premium components like öhlins, carbon fiber, steel brake lines, monoblock calipers… unless you go all in to a panigale v4s. The middle weight segment is more budget oriented than ever. I’ll probably keep her around for a couple more years before consider selling.
Man, I'm not into these kind of bikes but damn that thing is pretty. Sort of doing the same thing as the GSX-8R
Yes you are right. Gonna testride the 8R. Liked the 8S riding position very roomy bike. Think the 8R will be the same. 8R looks better than the 8S but dont like the frontdesign/lights of any of theese bikes. 8R looks better but not good enough. Suzuki needs to hire some italian designers
get the GSX-8R, highly recommend it so far (560 miles in)@hakankillberg6043
I had a hard time deciding between daytona 660 and gsx8r. I ended up going with the Daytona for the engine. And the suzuki tail fender looked really bad, which didn't help it's case.
Would be good to see a group test of this the GSX8R and the CBR650. A twin a triple and a four cylinder. All the same thing at roughly the same price.
@@hakankillberg6043 If you like a more sporty position, the 8R might be right for you. Suzuki always has its stapled looks, personally prefer it over the mt-07/r7. You have to remember Suzuki takes a different approach, or rather all Japanese designers do. Go buy the Italian then, no?
Dan, is it better, just as good or 😢not as good as the Honda CBR650R?
Interesting review. I really considered buying one of these but got the GSX8R instead as much preferred the handling of the Suzuki. It's a shame as the Triumph looks better & the engine is more exciting but the suspension & handling is just a bit odd as you say. I think the geometry is a bit off. The Suzuki's handling is great & the engine's great too in a different way to the Daytona. The low down & midrange grunt is surprisingly strong & makes it a better road bike for me personally, especially at legal speeds. Build quality & warranty is also better on the Suzuki. However, if Triumph sorted the suspension, it'd be a class leader imo.
Hi, my local dealer has not received a 660 yet, just wondering does the Suzuki have a more upright riding position than the Triumph? Love the looks of the new Suzuki.
@@georgeharsin6292Yes definitely. Suzuki's bars are higher than the Triumph for sure. I think the 660's above the yoke clip-ons looks much better tbh but the Suzuki is more comfortable imo.
I was considering this bike but settled on the tuono 660. You get a lot more for the same money.
Sorted bike that. Downside for me would be reliability and resale value.
@@Englishbikerdan That was a concern for me as well. I’m fortunate to live near an Aprilia vendor. If it wasn’t for that and a 2 year warranty for new bikes, it would have been a harder decision to make.
Where are you getting a Tuono for the same price? Daytona 660 MSRP $9195, the absolute cheapest base trim Tuono 660 is $10,699 meaning $1500 more expensive. Can increase that gap to $1940 more expensive if you decide you want the factory version with the flashy paint job.
People need to stop comparing this to the "real" Daytona, they're completely different class of bikes and if you can appreciate that then you should be able to see the merits of this new Daytona
Spot on.
This video shows how good the xsr gp sounds
Your have the only review I've heard that loved the breaks with all the reviews I've watched if your willing to change the suspension you will have a decent bike I understand the bike is better priced than most bikes but its still alot of money at what price do you say F it I'm getting the street triple or an Aprilia
I see you pulled into Wokefield Park.
I am up the road in Burghfield with a modded 2012 Street Triple R in Crystal White with a Leo Vince 3 into 1 full stainless.
Bike bought from new from Bulldog in Winnersh after having my heart set on a 675 Daytona at the time but due to the state of the roads nowadays decided to go the naked route.
Wish they'd bring out a 765 Daytona as would probably take a punt on one, that said I'm pretty impressed with the 660.
I think with Honda and KTM entering the full on sub litre sportsbike realm, Triumph may well be developing something.
Oh perfect timing Sir, I see you're currently testing the CBR650R so will be able to include direct comparison no doubt!
That was the CBR500R.
been waiting for this review! thank you Dan, I love it!
Hehe the video had 660 likes!!
Was really hoping that every manufacturer could finally stop using the Eric Buell designed single muffler. It's a trend that only looked good on Buell motorcycles.
It looks nice, and the tripple whisle is sublime. But if you had to recommend this, or the GSX-8R to a new rider....?
Or are they too far apart in their differences?
8R.
@Englishbikerdan Hahahah! That's what I'm leaning in to.
Cheers buddy!
It looks like a brilliant bike, I reckon this will do very well. Everyone, including myself, that is just upset it's not a 765 Daytona is missing the point of it.
Just started to watch so you may have mentioned this already, but I am glad you got it in a real colour. All the launch bikes were in black, and I think I know why. They totally forgot to paint the back of the bike! Real shame. Also on this type of bike the display in the cockpit is a let down. Nice engine though!
I really like the instruments myself. Very clear fonts, white on black, all info you need and doesn't look like a taped on ipad dash
@@PipeOPhile Agreed. When he said in the video that he wished it were more modern, I wasn't sure what he meant by that. It's gorgeous all around!
They have slapped the Daytona badge onto a trident based budget suspension sports tourer machine. I understand the use of the Daytona name will boost sales but the budget suspension feels like a bike by numbers. I want better for my money, and would pay more for it too.
I agree, but then also we are not the target demographic for this bike either. 765 Daytona, yes please!
Would increasingly the preload at the rear put more over the front? Just a thought as never ridden the bike., only sat on it in the dealership
It would help a bit.
Your observation about the rear preload/rear ride height is probably right. A few more millimeters in the rear would get more weight on the nose. Given the intended audience, that might have been intentional, although maybe a bit too conservative. There's also some speculation that the OEM-spec Michelins are contributing to the slower steering. I guess we'll see when some people change the tires. The forks are the same Showa separate-function BP units used on other bikes in the class, including the GSX-8R. How differently they've been valved/tuned isn't clear yet.
My bike's rear preload was on softest of 7 settings from factory. Bump it from 1 to 3 for your sharp handling to appear.
Spring rate seems very different too.
how do you fix the handling? new suspension? Also i heard that triumph is developing a performance package, does anyone know what´s that might be?
Stiffer springs, heavier fork oil or a cartridge kit.
@@Englishbikerdan both suspensions or either rear/front suspension is enough? I’m sorry for all the questions 😅 I’m really interested in buying this motorcycle and have heard in other reviews some mixing opinions regarding the bike handling. This would be my first sports bike, I don’t have a reference if this a good handling bike. Had a test ride and loved the engine and the handling felt a bit weird but I didn’t know if that is normal or not. Anyway thanks for the reply! 👍
Pretty simple. Take it to a decent shop and have them re-spring/re-valve the fork to suit your preference/weight. You can also re-spring the rear or replace the rear shock with a decent adjustable unit for not a lot of money. But, yep, it'll still cost some money. Or simply choose a bike that suits you better out of the box.
The issue with bikes in this class is usually cost and that the suspension is a compromise to suit a broad range of riders with very limited or no adjustment. It feels like Triumph might have gone a little too conservative for newer riders here. Also, the tires can make a big difference. Don't assume that OEM-spec brand-name tires are the same exact shape/compound/construction as the ones you can buy on your own. They're usually not.
Triumph will be offering a race/track kit through Peter Hickman Racing but I suspect that'll be a full race/track set-up and I'd doubt you can buy individual components. We'll have to see. For the average rider, I'd think that simply having the suspension reworked at reputable shop would probably make more sense.
@@ApexRadius if triumph offered the same suspension as the street triple r as a performance package I would go for it! Both suspensions have pre load and dampening adjustability, they’re not top tier suspension but they’re still good suspensions. Hey, thanks for the advice I might follow it!
@@rodrigoconstantino For sure, the R has pretty good suspension (I have a '22 RS) but that would make the bike significantly more expensive. I would have liked to see preload on the fork, at least, but most of the buyers of this bike won't care much. Truth is, 90% of people never touch the suspension adjusters. But it's nice to have the ability to tweak the settings if someone wants to (and has some idea of what they're doing, because it's easy to make it worse if not).
If you're really set on this bike, ride it stock a while, get a good idea of what you're feeling and what you'd want improved, and take some descriptive notes. Maybe you'll be fine with it as is. If not, then take it to a good shop and give them the feedback. Good luck, man.
In cannot stand it if the fork much dives under hard braking - soon going for the gen4 MT09 SP (the handling of the 2020 SP was already a treat on any mountain pass) 😅✌🏁
Looks nice but I’d still buy a Street Triple instead
👍👍👍👍👍
Did you check tire pressure before riding? Some bikes get ridiculous bad at 31 psi for front tire, while delicious at 34 psi, street tires and ride talking.
Tyre pressures were all fine.
I think I'll stick with my TS660.
I imagine this will be a very popular bike, it's a good sector with what's on offer and there is something for all tastes, twins, triples and inline four, I think the 2024 cbr650r looks nicer and has a much better dash (and e clutch) but this bike has that amazing triple!! Like I said something for everyone
It’s a lovely looking bike. I had the Triumph Trident 660 and really enjoyed the bike (the Daytona 660 has the same LCD TFT screen as the Tiger 660. The Trident has a slightly different LCD screen). I’d say the Daytona could be the perfect bike if you’re looking for a sports looks without it being a total hooligan😀😀
Ja! Nou net 'n glas dikmelk gedrink! Wat 'n Engelse motorfietsie! Foeitog!
Does the rear sprocket look comically large like some people are saying?
It has 15/51 sprockets. The Trident and Tiger use 16/51 from what I recall. Big difference in the lower gear ratios on the Daytona.
@@GripEngineering so 51, at the rear is pretty big then, huh? (as far as I can tell from my research... watching MC Garage): ua-cam.com/video/C6_FtVTjKng/v-deo.html
@@ozzyg82Yeah, it is big, but that isn't necessarily good or bad. It works with chosen transmission ratios. Sprockets are already at the "shorter" end of the spectrum, so kinda limiting if you wanted to gear for even better acceleration, but I don't see that being an issue for anybody. I could see myself putting a 16T countershaft sprocket for reduced highway revs if I used it more for commuting or touring.
My Ninja 650 has a 46T rear and I have a 43T sprocket waiting to be installed; more Sport-Touring role now that I have the Daytona.
I have a 2015 Daytona 675R
It’s probably to sport track focus for popular sell in numbers road bike . It’s a one trick pony but very good at it .
This or the 8R Dan ?
8R all day long.
Really pretty.
It really is!
I would never swap it with my CBR650R E-clutch :)
So you're saying you'd never give your CB650R up, let it down or hurt it?
When you getting on 2024 CBR600RR ? 😛
Hi Dan ❤ a suggestion if I may because I take your review seriously. Looking forward to seeing your review on Triumph Speed & Scrambler 400. Thank you!
Hey, I've already reviewed those. Both videos are live on my channel. Thanks!
@@Englishbikerdan omg I didn't realize it. Thanks Dan, love ya! 😘
Surprised that Triumph haven't nailed the handling and suspension, it's not like them. I think it's a great looking bike though and it will probably sell pretty well for them.
Can we try taking the fairings off and switching back to the trident headlight i think we will be back nearly to where we want to be then 🤔
Buy a Trident?
@Englishbikerdan I'll be honest the trident looks right but I was disappointed by the gearbox and felt the engine was capped compared to my old 675 I enjoyed having longer gears and higher reving engine for the flexibility to ride it in the different manors of how I felt. The trident did feel like it suited more of a relaxed style of riding to me💁♂️
Sorry, but the quality of this video, was amazing, ty for review
Thanks for that! Glad you enjoyed the video.
Looks like a step backwards from the Daytona 675?
Bit disappointed about the wind blast / noise. Was keen to part ex my street triple due to wind blast of a naked but this is neither sporty or a tourer by the sound of it.
You can't really judge much by the noise. There's going to be significant wind noise on any bike. That said, a replacement double-bubble screen might help some. But OEM sportbike screens/fairings don't typically provide much upper body wind protection until you get tucked in, The more aggressive riding position helps support you at speed, though. I own a first-generation Daytona 675 (stock screen) and a .22 Street Triple RS with a Puig aftermarket screen, which works pretty well. There isn't a world of difference in overall wind blast.
I'm 5'11" and my helmet was in clean air (quiet).
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This is the current market these days, supersports arnt as popular these days for whatever reason. I do really like this bike though
comparison Triumph Daytona 660 vs Aprilia RS660 ?
The Aprilia would win almost every category. 😂
@@Englishbikerdan how about the Yamaha R7? (sorry if im asking so many questions)
Pretty much the same them two
This or gsx 8r or the Aprilia RS 660? Can’t test ride either.
8R!
CBR 650R.
PTSD from my years working at jokefield park whenever I see it on the videos
That bad?
Another way to look at it, is you are riding a bike that is a bit slower than a 2002 CBR600F.
Bike manufacturers find it so difficult to design exhausts and back ends of bikes that look good. A shame.
Probably due to all the rules and regulations
Looks are subjective but i think its a good-looking thing id prefer a 1200 version lol ie a comfier 1200rr maybe detuned to say 130@ the wheel 100ft lbs of torque
1200 for just 130PS? It ain’t a Harley bruh. 130PS is 600cc territory.
@KrypteiaXi a big grunty low revving 130@ wheel bhp is enough for the road bruh and 100ft lbs torque at say 3500 rpm not a 600 bruh
@@neilhaigh2719 3500 rpm? Better buy a Diesel tractor.
If I’m honest,.. it looks like it’s been rushed in to production to complete with the Suzuki GSX 8R. And for me it falls short.
It looks like a Yamaha from 15 years ago.
Depending on who you asks that's wonderful. The older R6s are amongst the best looking bikes of all time imo
@@wlt3585 Yep the first FI model in 2003, I had the special edition black and yellow, she was a beut
Dropping it had absolutely nothing to do with emissions as mentioned. Think Street Triple. Compliant? Yes. Would the 765 cc be a better unit? Absolutely! Would it sell as well? Possibly not as the 660 is a cheaper platform.
Triumph told me that emissions were a key factor, and they didn't want to spend the money getting the 675 engine EU compliant.
@@Englishbikerdan oh Danny boy. What powered the last limited edition Daytona? The 765 from the Street Triple. Hence why I said “think Street Triple”, which is where that started from (a naked Daytona). The ONLY significant reason why Triumph has chosen the 660 platform is to make more money. It really is as simple as that. Nothing more, nothing less. As even with the limited edition of the last Daytona 765 Triumph Australia were basically giving them away in the end. It also allows them to be A2 and LAMS friendly. Again, more money for Triumph to make! Perhaps unhighlight your comment. 😂
dash leaves much to be desired as equally priced bikes offer more
Agreed, they should have done something different!
Why did they make this bike? And why did they use them same name?
Probably for chill people like myself that love the 600cc class but hate the riding position. They knew the name "Daytona" would attract a lot of people, and it sure worked on me!
@@timmbitz but when a bike is completely different as far as engine and seating position, it really should be called a different name
Every single reviewer picked up on the poor front end and lack of precision in the handling. It's surprising from Triumph. I actually owned a Trident for a while, which handled beautifully. I like the looks, other than the TFT which looks so cheap!
My take: Decent street bike but overweight and too many cut corners for anything more than commuting.
its already looks 5 years old
Why do Truimph keep fitting these cheap looking dashes to all their bikes. This naff dash is also fitted to the Street Triple R!
1. Torque to your rear tire is selected with your gear lever
2. Put a little more viscous fork fluid in it if you want it to jackhammer your arms like a sportbike
3. Try taking a corner hard and you'll appreciate the stability they engineered into it. Flighty bikes are fine on a racetrack where the speeds are high enough that they get harder to turn and become more stable at those speeds. This bike would become too hard to steer at those speeds and probably become a wallowy mess. It's designed to ride at road speeds where it is undoubtedly far superior to real sportbikes.
If I’m giving you £8.5k to buy either this or a CBR650R who’s getting the money…?
Neither. GSX-8R for me. 😆
@@Englishbikerdan Ok. I’m not giving you £8.5k then 😂
That display is a real letdown. In 2024 thats just trash
Really disapointing model from triumph. The fake frame is horrible. I will take the 8r
why do they have to bring out such boring colour scheemes thesae days? God I miss the 90s shell suit bikes.
That has got to be one of the worst dash clusters I have seen on any bike. Very pretty bike otherwise...
I think it looks very unique compared to other bikes' dashes. Same ole boring rectangular boxes just don't cut it for me! This thing looks out of this world!
My only issue with this bike is that it shouldn’t be called a Daytona. This is something else… Trident Sport? Looks budget compared to the real Daytona.
What like the 1970’s T100R Daytona, or the 90’s 750 900 or 1000 Daytona, T595, 955i, or perhaps the 675, maybe the 765?…hmm the real Daytona? The one named after the race it won? So the ‘real’ one has to be a 500 twin…🤣
Absolutely boring bike, nice review though.
It's a bit of a disappointing bike. It shouldn't be wearing the Daytona name. It looks 'cheap'. I'd pick just about any other bike in the class over this based on its looks, components, and finish.
While the handling isn't what I expected, overall I believe this bike isn't aimed at me. Newer riders will love this bike and that engine is incredible.
How much of a disappointment is it after the 675
I know from which point of view you are talking, that "daytona" name tag meant speed, meant menace ,but this bike is not what old daytona was ,but it is the best of what it is, a sports tourer, for everything.
@@malaymayank3104 they shouldve changed the name instead of using the name for a cheaper inferior bike imo
@@yourdoom8773 well who is not gonna buy a "daytona"
@@yourdoom8773Look back to the Daytona's of the 90s and this is more accurate to what they were
Very 😂
Best looking Triumph have produced for a while apart from the “Stubby” exhaust.