"I called him after the match" lol it's awesome to see those guys, as superhuman they can be, are still down to earth and are probably very friendly. Cool video explaining an important point! I wonder if the second shot in the tenth would have left a flat ten if it were closer to the pocket ... But better to be lucky haha
One of the best bowling videos I've ever watched ... and as a 75 year old who's been a passionate bowler since I was 10 (including partnering a SASBA doubles tournament with Simo ...( he averaged 250 ... at age 16 ... I didn't 🥺)) Ive watched 1,000's! 🎳
Can you go into more detail of "puts his hand in a better position" after he moved into the oil? Is this adjustment specific to the ball he's using since its a stronger asymmetric piece? I've found tournament style adjustments for this are so dang tricky.
Ron? With all due respect, all you pointed out is that Simo needed to make an adjustment. What would have been helpful, is to share exactly what adjustment he actually made, that allowed him to strike with the GEM, as well as with whatever the shinier ball was, on the fill ball. Did Simo share that information with you? Making a "really good shot" doesn't explain what we would like to know. Thank you.
I like the idea of this video, but i dont actually see an explanation of the adjustment that helped him finally get it. earlier you say he goes through the oil more, to preserve more energy for the pins, but he still doesn't get it. And your explanation of him finally getting it is that "he gets his hand on the ball better and makes a better shot". What does that actually mean? I have a hard time taking away useful information from that. Every time I throw the ball, I try to put my hand on it in the best possible way, and i try to throw the best shot possible. Do you mean he threw it so that it goes outside more and covers more boards? inside more and is tighter? etc.
I loved watching that match, it seemed like he made a decision to take light hits that had a better chance to get mixer pin action instead of trying to split the 8-9 which would be a much harder move to find
So many different things we can do to get that 10 out. Easy solution is switching equipment. Difficult part is moving, adjusting speed, and changing hand position. But that's what makes these guys so darn good!
I throw a 12 lbs plastic 20 mph and have a near perfect record on 10 pins I also use the same ball for 3-10 split . I wont use it for the 2-8 split. I change over to my weak resin 14lbs. I got a respectable average around 190 in my league
So he stayed in the oil, and changed his hand position. I’m a real amateur because that told me nothing. lol. To what did he change his hand position to, why did he choose that specific hand position?
Simo put more axis rotation meaning he got his hand more around the ball. Side rotation makes the ball skid easier and retain more energy therefore creating more angle of entry to the pocket. Hope this helps.
Iv bowled for years left and right handed. I got about 20 bowling balls. Im right handed. I take out the 10 pin right handed almost 100% of the time. Its because I throw a 12 lbs plastic ball about 20 mph. I never change spots because the ball just dont turn at that speed. Left lane has less traffic so when I bowl left I have a slightly better luck on the strike but when Im hitting 7s I suck. Maybe 2 out of 10.
About 30 years ago, I met an old man who told me that "good bowlers walk down the lane and roll the ball. The rest run down the lane and throw the ball." That was some pretty good advice. Now that I'm an old man, I can pass it on to the youngsters. lol
the main adjustment that he made was that he played to come in half pocket or light. when I'm sticking 10 pins that's what I try to do. the half pocket mixer has the best carry
Looked like Simo just got lucky in the 10th by hitting lighter and getting the mix. If he got more of the pocket, it would've been another flat 10. Seemed like he knew that changing balls was the correct move but he didn't want to risk another 2-10 combo. So he stuck with the worse ball and crossed his fingers, knowing he could at least hit the pocket consistently.
This is true information of the utmost it took me a minute to figure this out watching where my ball comes out at the end of the lane between the 8:00 and 9:00 the 8th and the nine pin thanks again Ron, another great video. Another great explanation. Peace. I'm out of here. What are you😊
I was told that if you're leaving 10 pins, its always a light hit! So my adjustment was to move my feet forward at least 6", of course only if I'm leaving them too much, more than once in a row! There's always fluke hits, bad pin spots, etcetera! But in a 1 on 1 match, you can only go twice before adjusting, in a league you're talking 3 games, lots more time to make an adjustment!
What exactly was the change? As a lefty I leave flat 7s all the damn time and I’m like, what should I change? I think our house shot is kegel titanium. I’m in the pocket and lined up because moving one way or the other totally Fs up the shot. I hate when I’m lined up to shoot corner spares all night.
Get in the oil so the ball doesn't burn up. You also have to create more axis rotation and slower speed to ensure the ball continues. It's tricky right? That's why it's so impressive!
For the ball to hook it needs friction to slow down. Ball energy is important. If the ball slows down too much there will be insufficient energy for the ball to flare and to dynamically impact the pin deck.
Ron. Thanks for explaining even a little bit of what goes through these guys minds as they perform. EJ explained it best when he said "Simo doing Simo things" Anthony "Swiss Army Knife" nickname is definitely fitting to how versatile he is on the lanes.
A one and one move right may not be the best strategy there bro. Why move towards the friction when your ball is already losing energy? There are many factors in play like ball motion , surface and even your tilt, you may consider a zonal move left, like two and one to keep the ball in the oil longer creating more energy while still seeing friction later down lane. A move right only sees friction sooner causing the ball to slow down quicker and changing direction sooner. May turn a weak ten into a big 4 on a typical house shot that is.
"I called him after the match" lol it's awesome to see those guys, as superhuman they can be, are still down to earth and are probably very friendly. Cool video explaining an important point! I wonder if the second shot in the tenth would have left a flat ten if it were closer to the pocket ... But better to be lucky haha
Simo is one of the chillest down to earth people on the planet.
One of the best bowling videos I've ever watched ... and as a 75 year old who's been a passionate bowler since I was 10 (including partnering a SASBA doubles tournament with Simo ...( he averaged 250 ... at age 16 ... I didn't 🥺)) Ive watched 1,000's! 🎳
Can you go into more detail of "puts his hand in a better position" after he moved into the oil? Is this adjustment specific to the ball he's using since its a stronger asymmetric piece? I've found tournament style adjustments for this are so dang tricky.
I saw more axis rotation…Which makes sense coz it makes the ball retains more energy and creates more angle of entry to the pocket.
That’s what I said. Break it all the way down.
Ron? With all due respect, all you pointed out is that Simo needed to make an adjustment. What would have been helpful, is to share exactly what adjustment he actually made, that allowed him to strike with the GEM, as well as with whatever the shinier ball was, on the fill ball. Did Simo share that information with you? Making a "really good shot" doesn't explain what we would like to know. Thank you.
Thanks for the always great information RH!!
Glad you liked it
I like the idea of this video, but i dont actually see an explanation of the adjustment that helped him finally get it. earlier you say he goes through the oil more, to preserve more energy for the pins, but he still doesn't get it. And your explanation of him finally getting it is that "he gets his hand on the ball better and makes a better shot". What does that actually mean? I have a hard time taking away useful information from that. Every time I throw the ball, I try to put my hand on it in the best possible way, and i try to throw the best shot possible. Do you mean he threw it so that it goes outside more and covers more boards? inside more and is tighter? etc.
I loved watching that match, it seemed like he made a decision to take light hits that had a better chance to get mixer pin action instead of trying to split the 8-9 which would be a much harder move to find
It was definitely a great match.
So many different things we can do to get that 10 out. Easy solution is switching equipment. Difficult part is moving, adjusting speed, and changing hand position. But that's what makes these guys so darn good!
Exactly
I throw a 12 lbs plastic 20 mph and have a near perfect record on 10 pins I also use the same ball for 3-10 split . I wont use it for the 2-8 split. I change over to my weak resin 14lbs. I got a respectable average around 190 in my league
"CURSE YOU, 10 PIN!" - Skeletor, if he bowled
So the correct adjustment was to change hand position? Did he say specifically how he changed it?
usually when i leave too many 7 pins (im a lefty) i take a half a step back. and the problem is solved
Great synopsis 💯👍🏿
What a funny title! This is one of the most missed shots by the pros....seen it SO many times!
All he had to do was "jacked" correct?
So he stayed in the oil, and changed his hand position. I’m a real amateur because that told me nothing. lol. To what did he change his hand position to, why did he choose that specific hand position?
Simo put more axis rotation meaning he got his hand more around the ball. Side rotation makes the ball skid easier and retain more energy therefore creating more angle of entry to the pocket. Hope this helps.
love this. Thanks Ron
Glad you like it, Thanks for sharing.
Thank you . Great video ! I always question myself why I leave ten pins .
Glad it helped
Awesome vid and analysis!
Glad you liked it!
Great information. I needed to see this 👍🏾
Glad you liked it
Iv bowled for years left and right handed. I got about 20 bowling balls. Im right handed. I take out the 10 pin right handed almost 100% of the time. Its because I throw a 12 lbs plastic ball about 20 mph. I never change spots because the ball just dont turn at that speed. Left lane has less traffic so when I bowl left I have a slightly better luck on the strike but when Im hitting 7s I suck. Maybe 2 out of 10.
Love your channel
Thanks for the support
About 30 years ago, I met an old man who told me that "good bowlers walk down the lane and roll the ball. The rest run down the lane and throw the ball."
That was some pretty good advice. Now that I'm an old man, I can pass it on to the youngsters. lol
the main adjustment that he made was that he played to come in half pocket or light. when I'm sticking 10 pins that's what I try to do. the half pocket mixer has the best carry
Looked like Simo just got lucky in the 10th by hitting lighter and getting the mix. If he got more of the pocket, it would've been another flat 10. Seemed like he knew that changing balls was the correct move but he didn't want to risk another 2-10 combo. So he stuck with the worse ball and crossed his fingers, knowing he could at least hit the pocket consistently.
broski did the adjusment in his MIND
This is true information of the utmost it took me a minute to figure this out watching where my ball comes out at the end of the lane between the 8:00 and 9:00 the 8th and the nine pin thanks again Ron, another great video. Another great explanation. Peace. I'm out of here. What are you😊
Speed, hand angle, line, and of course hit em thin and watch them spin.
This was really good. Thank you.
You're very welcome!
That was cool video CTD
Thanks for watching
Great explanation.. thanks
I was told that if you're leaving 10 pins, its always a light hit!
So my adjustment was to move my feet forward at least 6", of course only if I'm leaving them too much, more than once in a row!
There's always fluke hits, bad pin spots, etcetera!
But in a 1 on 1 match, you can only go twice before adjusting, in a league you're talking 3 games, lots more time to make an adjustment!
Different adjustments for different environments.
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What exactly was the change? As a lefty I leave flat 7s all the damn time and I’m like, what should I change? I think our house shot is kegel titanium. I’m in the pocket and lined up because moving one way or the other totally Fs up the shot. I hate when I’m lined up to shoot corner spares all night.
In this case more axis rotation and get into more oil with slower speed.
That’s a cool video bro
Thanks for watching
And I think he stuck with that ball in the final.
Play with string pins is the answer. When the 6 pin rings around the 10 the string takes it out!
😂😂😂😂 Yes that too
So your saying get it more in the oil so that on the back end it will snap harder is that correct
Get in the oil so the ball doesn't burn up. You also have to create more axis rotation and slower speed to ensure the ball continues. It's tricky right? That's why it's so impressive!
For the ball to hook it needs friction to slow down. Ball energy is important. If the ball slows down too much there will be insufficient energy for the ball to flare and to dynamically impact the pin deck.
I'm not a pro, but these are typical adjustments to me 🤷🏻
In my league the people who throw two handed or one handed can't pick up a 10 pin consistently. Most get lucky when they strike.
Ron. Thanks for explaining even a little bit of what goes through these guys minds as they perform. EJ explained it best when he said "Simo doing Simo things" Anthony "Swiss Army Knife" nickname is definitely fitting to how versatile he is on the lanes.
Flat 10 my first move Is one and one RIGHT>
Try that on PBA pattern on national tv.
@@Swamprowdy Either the ball has never gone into a roll, or the ball has rolled too early and lost all of its energy before it gets to the pocket.
On a house shot.. ya
A one and one move right may not be the best strategy there bro. Why move towards the friction when your ball is already losing energy? There are many factors in play like ball motion , surface and even your tilt, you may consider a zonal move left, like two and one to keep the ball in the oil longer creating more energy while still seeing friction later down lane. A move right only sees friction sooner causing the ball to slow down quicker and changing direction sooner. May turn a weak ten into a big 4 on a typical house shot that is.
@waynetinnin2096 Maybe the ball wasn't losing energy due to friction. Maybe he tossed It a bit faster. All kinds of things can be happening at once.
Cool video talk tech bowling ball Ron hickland