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- Remington 11-48 shotgun
We review some of the history of Remington Arms and talk about Remington’s amazing 11-48 shotgun and how it came to be. We look at several examples talking about its operation, variants, and conditions. And if you stay to the end of the video I show you an fantastic and special 11-48 that has survived its own history in like new condition.
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I had a 48 long ago. An old fellow taught me how to drill out the three dimples in the magazine tube. The dimples limit the follower from allowing more rounds. Drilling these essentially converts the 48 into a 11-48. You can even put on an extension magazine.
Is true. Thanks for watching and commenting
Very nice video. I personally have a 48 Sportsman 12 ga. passed down to me from my father in 1988. His father bought it new in the 50's. So many rounds have been fired through this shotgun that I lost count years ago. Still functions flawlessly. This, along with a single shot .22 started me down my very long and expensive love of firearms. Our 2nd amendment must be protected at all cost.
This is one of the things I love most about this community. I think the stories of guns owned by family, sometimes for generations, is a too often ignored part of the reality of firearms ownership. The 1905 Ithaca that I am restoring on the channel right now has been in the same family since new and has been passed down four generations. Chris thank you for taking the time to comment!
I've been shooting and collecting Remington Model 11-48 and Sportsman 48 shotguns in all the available gauges for 60+ years. This ain't my first rodeo. The stocks were machine cut, not pressed. The checkering pattern was changed somewhat in its last years. A little known fact is that although Remington officially quit making and cataloging the 48 series in 1968 when they decided to concentrate on the 1100, it was continued as the Mohawk 48 with the late engraving pattern through the early to mid 1970's. That gun was sold exclusively by the big box stores like Kmart. The Mohawk 48 disappeared (according to gun historian lore) when Remington ran out of the left over 48 series parts that were in on hand when they made the switch to concentrating on the 1100 series. Happy hunting boys and girls!😀
Hey Dave....thanks for the info. By "machine cut" I assume you mean the checkering? From a personal level I think the 11-48 is a nicer more pleasing shotgun then the 1100...but that is what makes the world go round. Happy to know the extra information you shared! Is there a definitive source for this or just info you have learned over the years? I am always interested in learning more. And regarding rodeos...I have grown up in the business. My dad started his little gun shop in 1962 and I run it today. Also I worked for Ruger firearms for 44 years. Ran their stock making shop for most of that and worked in design and development my last 12. Pleased to meet a fellow traveler. Thanks for commenting.
@@SixRoundsStudio Yes meant checkering. Most information gained from personal experience and research. Some from the Remington Society. Big problem now is the historical production information was not given to the new REM ARMS COMPANY in the bankruptcy sale. I got that directly in an email from REM ARMS when I inquired about those records. Another giant screw up. IMHO the new 870 Field Master is just a slightly improved 870 Express and no where close in quality to a real Wingmaster of any generation. I particularly like the Wingmasters from 1948 to 1963 with the same checkering pattern and wood as the 11-48. In addition to my collection of the 48 series I'm also working on a collection of the 870 Wingmaster ADL DELUXE series. The 48 series autoloaders are slimmer, lighter, better balanced, quicker and easier pointing than the 1100 IMHO. The biggest advantage of the 1100 and 11-87's are lighter recoil and I have some of those too and really like them. Although I have no experience with the V-3 and the Versa Max series, from what I've been able to read, neither of those had the reliability and quality of workmanship of any of the autoloaders up through the 11-87. Unfortunately I don't get to hunt much anymore because of health problems, but I still like to sit in the hedge rows on my farm and pass shoot doves or geese when they come in to the grain fields. Anything that does not require walking. Happy hunting boys and girls!😀
@@davewinter2688 Thank you Dave.
I recently inherited a 11-48 in 16 ga, and knew very little about it. Thank you for your informative video
Your very welcome
I have a sportsman 48 in 16 gauge. Was the first gun I ever bought. Great shooting gun
Really a very nice gun..
Much history there. Thanks for sharing it with us.
Thanks Brian. Was a lot of fun to make.
Greatest video I’ve seen on history of the rem 11-48 and browning a-5. My dad passed his 1956 A-5 down to me and bought my brother a brand new 11-48 in 1972. My brother RIP passed it on to his son. After 100s of rounds fired flawlessly she is still in great condition. Your video brought back heart warming memories of when my bro n myself would go hunting and skeet shooting together. Thank you sir n have a nice day. 🇺🇸
Thank you Ken! Took a lot to put this one together. Lots of research and I learned a whole lot myself.
SixRounds Studio your research and hard work is appreciated. I’m sure that is one of the reasons your channel went from 1000 to 2000 subscribers in such a short time. Keep up the great work. May everyone stay safe and healthy. 🇺🇸
Great story and memories.
Loved the story on the skeet guns. I've enjoyed your rebuild videos in the past. knowing you're '48 guy brings you up as a person in my eyes. Few of us around anymore.
I have my own small collection and still building.
Thanks for the vid. Keep it up!
Thanks Don. I made this video so long ago I had to go back and watch it to remember what I had said. These are classics that are mostly underappreciated. We used to see these come into the shop all the time. I haven't seen one in years. Sad...because a modern generation misses the beauty and utility of wood and steel.
Thank you for the history lesson on Remington, a lot I didn't know. My dad had two 1148 shotguns, one in 12 gauge and one in 20 and they both were like brand new. I can remember squirrel hunting with the 20 gauge when I was just a young boy. Sadly our home burned and he lost all of his firearms including a Remington 1100, 742 wood master in 30-06 and a Winchester model 94 in 30-30. He was able to find another 1100 and 742 shortly after that but he has yet to find a good 1148. He is in his late 70's now and he doesn't hunt anymore but one day I will find another 1148 just for nostalgia reasons.
Wow...thank you for sharing the story. This is what the media misses.
The bolt and barrel are not returned by the barrel spring. Ith
Thank you for this video. BY FAR the best video/review I've seen for the 11-48! ...and I loved the history of Remington. You've got another subscriber. Thanks again.
Wow...thank you Duane. Welcome aboard.
Que aula...obrigado por compartilhar seu conhecimento. Abraços do Brasil!
I'm a 11-48 person.
Own .410. 28ga and a 16ga
Have a 11-48SC. 28ga specially made for skeet. Shoot doves with it.
Love these guns.
Nice video 👍🇺🇲🇺🇲🇺🇲
Old school and one of my personal favorites. Thank you for taking the time to comment.
The spring in the stock returns the bolt. The mag tube spring returns the barrel WITHOUT the bolt and this is when ejection occurs. Then the bolt returns picking up a shell on the way. Great vid, I LOVE my Model 11's and my one 1148 410.
Yes
And thank you!
I have a 1952 (yy) sportsman 48 12 gauge my uncle bought new . I got it when my uncle died. I was 12 yrs old at the time. This has killed alot of deer in Virginia. I did have a gunsmith reblue it many years ago. Still a great shooting gun. Great video!
Thank you David. I do love these shotguns!
Nice collection, thanks for sharing the history!
Thanks for watching!
I have a remington sportsman 48 in 20 gauge with a modified choke that I inherited from my grandpa. That is the best rabbit gun I've ever used. If you can shoot well it won't destroy the rabbits up close and it's just tight enough of a pattern to reach out for some longer running shots. I also have a Winchester model 12 in 20 gauge with a full choke that I inherited from my great great grandpa and it dates 1941. That full choke is great for those extra long shots on squirrels. I've killed squirrels out to 45-50 yards with it. You have to hold really steady and make sure they aren't moving though lol. This was a great and informative video. I'm going to date my sportsman 48 and see how old it is. Thank you, that is a wonderful collection you have there. The 11-48 is truly a great shotgun.
Thank you rabbit! They are indeed great shotguns. I generally have always used a 20 or 28. Like them most.
09JUN21:
Just received an 11-48 as payment for looking after, and changing the locks on a neighbor’s house... Thank you for enlightening me to not only the history, but the significance of this beauty.
Left side stamp... XTT and serial... 9066
Correction: 5009066
Thank you Matt! Though change is a constant.... it is inevitable. I do believe that the 11-48 was a game changer in the industry and one of the more beautiful semi-shotguns that Remington made (even comparing it to the 1100). And speaking of change...where did Remington go? Another icon of the past being played for greed, and not a love of the game perhaps?
Finally acquired grandpa's 11-48 SPORTMAN 16 gauge in nearly new condition that had not been shot in over 60 years. As a child, I remember sneaking it down from the rack in my parents closet once to check it out. Before shooting at KCR, I removed the fore-end assembly and barrel and lubricated the breech-bolt and so forth. Fired maybe 12 rounds of FIOCCHI 6 shot 1300 fps thru without any issue. The recoil action surprisingly pounded my shoulder.
I love the 11-48s. Couple suggestions. Be sure the barrel is free to recoil back into the receiver (I am sure it is if the gun is functioning) and 1300 fps is pretty hot. Maybe 1125 would be a better and lighter load.
Thank you and yes, I verify that barrel fully strokes after removing. Hoping Herter's 1165 fps will have a lighter recoil.
All Browning A5 long recoil design derivatives are going to seem hard kicking if you're used to shooting gas operated 1100's and the like. However your gun probably needs a new recoil/bolt spring and main action spring. Those springs are notorious for being compressed or collapsing after years of use. I've been shooting 48's for over sixty years. Also the original friction ring design really worked better than Remington's so-called improvement. It just wasn't as convenient as the new design. Check out Art's Gun Shop in Hillsboro Missouri. He has a recent U-tube video about this very subject including a spring replacement kit and improved friction ring/recoil control system. I'm not associated with his shop in any way. I've just been watching some of his videos for several years. He specializes in Brownings but does pretty much everything with hunting shotguns and rifles.
Superb video. Thank you for preparing and sharing this very interesting video for us firearm history geeks.
Thank you for commenting. I think I like the history almost as much as the guns themselves
Great video on how to date a Remington shotgun and I also don't 4get to take a bouquet of roses and a box of chocolates as well !!!!
Ok...so that is pretty good Jeff...:)
Good video. I have an old 1925 Remington model 11 that works great
Yep...the old Auto 5 Clone. They were great guns too. Dont see those much anymore.
@@SixRoundsStudio Brownings long recoil actions sure have a distinct , clunky “cha-chunk” recoil impulse. They all do it. Barrel and bolt coming forward actually kinda pull the gun forward at the end of the cycle. Kinda cool I suppose
I have a Sportsman 48 in 16ga full choke. I want to have the barrel threaded for chokes so that I can use it for various hunting and sporting events. I like 16ga shotguns. I also have a Winchester Model 12 in 16ga full choke. Great informative video. Thanks.
Great shotguns and this was a fun video to make. Thanks for the comment Greg!
What an excellent and informative video. Thank you for your work. A+
Wow...than you for the comment!
Great Video Learned A Lot Thanks
Thank you Andrew!
Good video. I learned some things. Thanks.
Thank you! And thank you for taking the time to comment
Thanks buddy love my sportsman 48 20g I hunt upland game bird
Thank you for taking the time to comment. These are some of my favorite shotguns.
Nice score
Always keep our eyes open
I purchased a Remington Sportsman Auto 12 at built in 1985 I think it has the Birch stock it was 250 bucks almost in 95% condition the best shotgun for the money hands down basically a Remington 1100 at 1/3 the price
The 1100 is basically the child of the 11-48. both are great shotguns from a once great company
I've got Dad's 11-48 manufactured in February 1952. He used it exclusively into the 1980s, always kept it maintained, but then suddenly it failed to eject on the 2nd or 3rd shot. Gunsmith claimed it was dirty, so he cleaned it. Jamming continued. Dad continued to use it as a single shot, then later got a Weatherby Orion. I cleaned it, oiled it, then shot it the other day, first time to be fired in 35+ years. Jammed on first shot. Empty did not eject, but second shell was released from the magazine, causing a serious jam. Had to be disassembled to remove live rounds. Any ideas on what the problem is?
Well...normally I would support your gunsmiths conclusion...a deep thorough cleaning will solve most "all of a sudden" issues with a firearm. Especially pumps and autos. With out looking at it, anything I suggest is just a guess. Make sure the friction ring is in the correct orientation on the recoil spring and see if the extractor is grabbing the shell securely.
I inherited a Sportsman 48 16 gauge passed down from my father. It has an adjustable choke. Was that added? Date code YY 1952.
Most likely on the adjustable choke.
It is call flat bottom checkering. It was not pressed in.
Interesting
@@SixRoundsStudio I was at lunch yesterday so I didn’t have much time to respond. Flat bottom checkering is easier than regular checkering that cuts a V groove. The V groove will give the diamond affect when the grooves cris-cross. I believe it was hand cut, although I could imagine a set-up where a machine did the checkering. Not press-cut. From my understanding this gun was marketed for the returning GI’s from WW2. As you said the recoil system is the same as the Browning Auto 5 and Remington wanted a new more modern gun to sell to returning GI’s. This gun was different to the Auto 5 in appearance but not recoil system. Interestingly when this gun came out Remington was developing the gas operated recoil system that was used in the venerable model 1100. They just chose to come out with 11-48 as a stop gap measure until the new recoil system was ready. They didn’t want to miss out on the demand and potential sales. My brother-in law was at lake Belton which is close to Fort Hood in Killeen Texas. There are a lot of cliffs on the lakes and he came across some young veterans who had just come back from either Afghanistan or Iraq that were cliff diving. In combat you get that adrenaline rush so often that after deployment your brain craves it for a while. I am not sure if that was happening to some of the GI’s coming back from WW2 (maybe the act of shooting was fulfilling the craving or they just had a desire to return to a life they had before the war) but there was a definite demand for shotguns.
@@SixRoundsStudio Larry Potterfield the owner of Midway USA has a video about Flat-top checkering. I am sorry before I said flat bottom I was wrong it is flat-top checkering. The video is called How to Checker a Parker Side by Side with Original Style Flat-Top Checkering.
@@perrycollier2989 Thanks for taking the time to comment Perry. I hope you get to watch some of my other vids (subscribe too). I grew up in the firearms industry. My dad started a gun shop and gunsmithing business in 1962, and following his passing last year I am still running the shop. Dad served in the Pacific as a Marine in WWII. He grew up a farm boy and guns and hunting was what folks did in the day (wish more folks would spend time in the woods harvesting thier own food. Would make them better for the experience). I spent 45 years working for Ruger firearms and 30 of those years ran the woodworking stock making shop. I tell some of my story in other vids on the channel. I am going to have to dig out my collection of 11-48 s and study the checkering more. I am still a huge fan of the spring recoil operating system. Simple and reliable. Thanks for being here Perry!
I have an 11-48 Mohawk, and trying to find a rifled barrel. It's a hard thing... lol
Not a clue where you could get one. You can try some of the gun parts companies like Numrich
@@SixRoundsStudio it's a no go( nobody has any) one was on ebay several years ago but not since.. Just going to be happy with what I have. It's in great shape. Such a beautiful gun. I love my A5 16G, 11-48 1100 and 11-87. Great video by the way.
@@mthomas91088 Yep...they are made to be enjoyed. Thanks for the complement and the comment.
I am from India can I buy the gun sportsman 48
Hello I just acquired a Sportsman 11-48 12ga. Don’t know the year yet but I was wondering if I could shoot steel shot through it.
The barrel says 2 3/4, but can I shoot 3”?
Thanks for the video, good content.
Thanks for the positive comment and your question is a good one. I am not qualified to answer that question from any engineering perspective. I did do some research to see if an answer to that question is available and got multiple responses. It seems the consensus is NOT to shoot steel shot in any Remington shotgun manufactured before 1963. After 1963 they list other limitations to using steel shot. My suggestion...? Avoid steel shot.
By the way I have two 11-48’s one in a 12 gage and one in a 16 gage. The 12 gage keeps breaking the carrier dog. I suspect the recoil spring has weakened and the barrel and bolt are slamming rearward with such force as to break the top of the carrier dog. I have replaced the recoil spring but have not had a chance to test it yet. Have you experienced this with any of your 11-48’s and if so what was the fix. I know all you have to go on is my verbiage but you thoughts would be greatly appreciated. Thanks for the advice in advance and I enjoyed your video. I love my 11-48’s it was a good gun. I also like the flat bottom checkering they chose to use it makes it unique.
Be sure the buffer ring is in the correct orientation for the loads you are using.
What parts from the Remington 1100 will fit the 1148 stocks speed feed side saddle Etc
Well...truthfully I am not an expert in the differences between the two. The 1100 was a complete redesign. I would try and find a parts and assembly breakdown book that has schematics of both guns...or try Numrich gun parts for one of thier online breakdowns.
Great video, How did the poly or pac chokes get introduced?
I'm not sure I understand your question entirely but let me take a shot at what I think your asking. Choke sizes are defined by a dimension of the bore at the muzzle. Obviously a "fixed" choke is one dimension at the muzzle that equals the dimension for that stated choke. The inherent problem is, depending on the sport or the game you hunt, the shooter might want a different choke so that the spread of shot would be best for that sport or game at the distances you want to shoot. Well...guns are expensive, so with a fixed choke on every gun it would require the shooter to buy more guns (not a problem in my book...just sayin :). Poly-choke was introduced in the 1930s as an alternative to buying several guns; and with the aid (or work) of a gunsmith the barrel could be cut behind the factories fixed choke (back to the cylinder bore) and the poly-choke added to the muzzle so that the choke dimension could be controlled by the shooter by twisting the choke on its threads which would constrict or open the choke at the muzzle. They work fine (our shop installed them back in the 60s and 70s. We still have one of the advertising models from Poly-choke...very cool), but from an esthetic perspective they are butt ugly (just opinion) by adding this "thing" to the end of an otherwise elegant shape. A sidebar: from the perspective of a restorers responsibility....If I restore a customers firearm and that firearm has a Poly on it, it is a part of that firearms history and story and I would discourage the owner from removing it (ultimately the owners decision). Anyway....along comes Briley (and others) with their screw in chokes which allows for the changing of choke sizes without that "thing" on the end allowing for maintaining the sleek lines of the shotgun. Today most manufacturers produce their shotguns with screw in chokes, but most also produce them with fixed chokes as well. Hope this answered your question? Thank for watching the vid and taking the time to comment!
@@SixRoundsStudio you answer my question perfectly, I am awaiting my recently purchased remington 11-48 with a power pac external choke. My main goal for this gun will be dove hunting, I am also considering a baikal mp-153.
Best in biz kerblamo
I recently inherted a 11- 48 in a 410 ga, I noticed when you broke down the 410 and removed the barrel their was no fiction ring. Is that correct? I thought something may have been missing on mine? Thank in advance for your response!
Hi Jeffery. Thanks for the comment. If your shotgun looks like mine when the forearm is removed, then everything is fine. The 410 doesn't use a friction ring because of its lighter recoil.
Hi, great video! Question-I've recently come into possession of an older 11-48 (not sure how to date it...?)...when I took it apart, the gun has the standard recoil spring with the recoil spring ring affixed to the magazine tube. Good to go there, but there is also a bronze? or brass? "split friction ring" that sits loosely on top of the recoil spring ring when you sit the gun upright on its butt. This doesn't seem right? I've watched a few other youtube vids on the 11-48 and I'm not seeing that "extra" friction ring anywhere on the videos during disassembly. Is this bronze/brass "friction ring/piece" supposed to seat inside the part of the main barrel ... (not sure what you call this part...?) ... that slides onto the recoil spring ring??????? Thanks!
Richard, thanks for commenting. I covered dating the shot gun
at time stamp 17:28. Not really hard but you have to pay attention to all the codes. I also covered the friction ring at time stamp 12:45. I can honestly tell you that I am not sure why you have the split friction ring (the split ring was on the model 11 hump back - auto 5 clone). None of the 11-48s that I have or have looked at have a split ring (they are all internal to the friction sleeve). Maybe you can check out the collector site and see if there is some explanation.
Operational info at the 5 minute mark is not accurate.
You are correct.
I have a 1940 Montgomery wards double barrel shotgun. The stock is broke off and missing. I am having a hard time finding a replacement Do you have any resources where I can get buy one. Thanks for your help.
eBay can be a pretty good resource. Also Numrich Arms. www.gunpartscorp.com/
Boyds stocks is a good source for Stevens. Yours was probably made by them.
i have a benelli semi in the philippines
Is it easy or difficult to own firearms in the Philippines?
Or factory installed
Bloke pointing out cracks in a specific gun is not neccessary