Good effort! You're doing very well for a beginner. By the way, when a player hits the ball over the head of their opponent, it's called a lob, not a dropshot. A dropshot is when they drop it very short, just over the net. Also, when setting up to serve, you need to make sure that both your feet are fully on the side you are serving from, for your full service motion, otherwise it's a foot fault. When you set up to serve to the deuce side, your left foot is often on the wrong side. Even though you move it to the right side before you jump, that still counts as a foot fault, as it needs to be on the correct side for the full motion. Serving a bit futher away from the centre line, maybe about a metre from the centre, is better anyway, as it gives you better angles.
Lexi has good tennis IQ. Standing back 2-3 feet from the baseline after her serve is so smart and hard to do when matches get intense and you forget things. Thanks for the video Kyle you played really well for it being your first utr match. I was genuinely surprised by how well you’re playing for just picking it up after your brother. Great match keep fighting 💪🏽
Great content and can’t wait to see how you improve! I think your channel will do very well. You and your brother are very likable and your camerawork/editing is top notch. 4:02 you’re 100% correct. I also transitioned from basketball to tennis and it took me a long time to realize the importance of tennis specific footwork. Naturally moving well to get the balls is obviously an advantage, but it’s the tiny adjustment steps that will take you to another level of consistency. You can grove the most picture perfect strokes, but if you don’t put yourself in the exact correct position then you won’t be able to use them. Getting setup with proper footwork is the secret sauce, and many countries don’t even let their juniors hit balls until they get this part down as it is a key fundamental. You’ve already got proper mechanics on your forehand so it feels smooth when you happen to be turned, spaced, and balanced properly. You feel like you short arm them at times because you’re not quite in the correct turned/balanced position before starting your swing. In other words, before you watch 100 hours of how to hit a forehand/backhand etc, first focus on being turned/balanced/spaced before the ball bounces. You’re naturally athletic so everything else will fall into place much faster if you don’t underestimate the importance of this. Part of this also requires experience to read balls much faster so you know where to get set and prepared so you have time, but once you get it it’s like using the force. Best of luck 🫡
@@dpadron his brother Trey started a channel called Winners Only (must check it out too), where he starts as a complete novice and shows his journey. This video is on Winners Only Two I think. The younger brother featured on this channel is the cameraman/ helps edit etc on the original channel and now will hopefully show the same journey of a beginner who falls in love with tennis and how they improve over time. I think he’ll improve rapidly and will catch up to Trey and make some interesting battles.
I frankly shouldn’t mention this at your current stage of development. It’s sorta like telling a kid that can barely dribble a basketball without looking at the ball that if he dribbled behind his back he could have made a particular drive to the basket without getting the ball stolen. At 20:21 you’re at the net and Lexi hits a slow passing shot that gets by you. You run it down but I think you hit it over the back fence. Balls that get behind you can be returned back. The key change is that if the ball is on your left/forehand side in this situation where your back is to the court you hold a slight backhand grip. If it’s on your right/backhand side hold a forehand grip. If you stand facing the back fence and hold the racket in front of you, you will see that these “reverse” grips allow you to more easily point the racket face back towards the court. There’s not enough space here to explain the various ways to swing the racket in these emergency defensive situations but if you just try and lob or float the ball back I think your smart enough to figure out how to get the ball back once you experiment a little. The key is to hit the sweet spot and dont think offensive at all. Just try and get the ball back. Offense will come later in your development. The only reason I mention this is that with your foot speed this situation will come up quite often. Watch some Mansour Bahrami videos for pointers. He is a retired tennis player who likes entertain crowds and will put himself in similar situations as yours just to show off.
5:38 Shanking balls is usually a sign of using your arm in isolation; it looks as if you set your body a bit too early on that forehand, i.e. a footwork problem. Could well be an outcome of being too tight/nervous and not moving as freely as you would normally do. Overall though, your footwork is way ahead of many players, and even Federer could shank a ball when under pressure. Just look at the 2019 Wimbledon finale against Djokovic.
Well played. I feel like I improved a lot once I started to play in a league. You get to play against different play styles which makes your game more well rounded.
Thanks for the upload! Thanks Lexi for coming on. Your game is really making progress, you're doing great work. I see the makings of a monster server like Trey. And your instincts at net are already insane, way better than me and I've been playing for years
Last: Try to not run while hitting, some of your returns are very 50/50 if they go in or into the net because you run up to the ball and keep moving while hitting (ex: 18:55). Run into position, split step/stop, swing and then move. And vs someone who serves like this opponent does, instead of you standing that far behind baseline and running into every return, you should adjust and take position two steps into the court. When they serve, you split step and do 1 step forward and hit that return. Starting behind baseline for the first serves of a match is fine, but you need to adjust. You are standing where you would stand vs Treys serves even after one full set of serves that are a lot slower pace. Looking forward to seeing your next match!
Did comment this on your previous video too. At 12:46, you need to stop going to AD court after your Deuce side serve. You should have been burned at 14:41. 16:35 she hits a good return, but it's a return you should manage to hit back, as she did not hit it hard with pace, but you are so out of position so you fumble it. The big % return is cross court, and you leave it wide open. If you are gonna get burned on returns, at least make them hit the hard shot (down the line). If you practice some serve/returns with Trey, have him try 10 returns DTL and 10 returns cross court. I bet he hits 8/10 or 9/10 cross, but will only manage 2-3/10 DTL (with depth, not talking about a slow loopy return landing inside service box on AD side). And then it's very clear which side you should relocate to after your serve!
I was rlly confused when u mentioned the overhead dropshot, but then I realised you were talking about lobs 🤣 Im beggining to play some tournaments here in Brasil too, and the game just feels different from the training, I definitely feel u bro
@@Winners-Only-Deuce A lob is a high shot over the net player. A drop shot is a short shot, barely past the net. An overhead is when you take a high ball out of the air, like a serve. Your tennis game is outpacing your tennis vocabulary, that's a good thing :)
Deuce will get better faster than his brother. everything is so fluid for a beginner.. even the footwork.. He don't have such basketball muscle that will likely inhibit his tennis growth whatsoever..
Think you undersell your net skills a bit, you finish a lot of points with solid overheads/slams. What you need more work on is the regular volley. Also try to angle them a bit more, you did seem to aim a lot of the volleys right back at your opponent, giving her a chance to do something with the ball without her actually moving.
With your size you should be winning more net points. You have to hit better approach shots ( deeper ball or into the corners) so you can use your size to cutoff the court. In this match too many approach shots hit to the center of the court, leaving you open to get passed on either side. Keep playing matches too improve overall gameplay..
If you were a actor your Q rating would be way above average. You present yourself very favorably. Now to tennis. As a tennis player you’re the equivalent of a newborn baby. A baby is just expected to crawl first not run a sub 10 second 100 meters. Yes you were a D1 basketball player but tennis is a completely different sport. If you were a rated table tennis player then that sport would give you more advantages over a person without a sports background. Basketball does make you a very smooth mover for someone 6’5 and if you maintain a reasonable level of basketball conditioning you’ll have a advantage over the majority of tennis players, even most advanced ones, in areas of stamina and strength. The one area they would probably beat you in is rotator cuff conditioning. Remember every Pro you see on TV once sucked as much or more than you do when they first started. It’s just that we expect little kids to struggle at first. With encouragement and coaching some develop into advanced players, many of whom forget that they once sucked. I’ve seen four Juniors go from so so kid players to HS tennis champions and then to D1 Tennis teams. It’s only your adult ego getting in your way. Remember you have the advantage over any Junior of already being fully physically developed and having a D1 basketball background at that. Believe me if you could see a D1 tennis player with zero basketball experience try to learn to play basketball after graduating it would make you feel real good about your starting level at tennis. Don’t get down on yourself. Trey was where you were at a year and a half ago and frankly he still volleys only marginally better then you do.
Good effort! You're doing very well for a beginner.
By the way, when a player hits the ball over the head of their opponent, it's called a lob, not a dropshot. A dropshot is when they drop it very short, just over the net.
Also, when setting up to serve, you need to make sure that both your feet are fully on the side you are serving from, for your full service motion, otherwise it's a foot fault. When you set up to serve to the deuce side, your left foot is often on the wrong side. Even though you move it to the right side before you jump, that still counts as a foot fault, as it needs to be on the correct side for the full motion. Serving a bit futher away from the centre line, maybe about a metre from the centre, is better anyway, as it gives you better angles.
@@coilinnunan4058 haha okay thank you great to know about the lobs 😂
got it, i’ll fix that
Lexi has good tennis IQ. Standing back 2-3 feet from the baseline after her serve is so smart and hard to do when matches get intense and you forget things. Thanks for the video Kyle you played really well for it being your first utr match. I was genuinely surprised by how well you’re playing for just picking it up after your brother. Great match keep fighting 💪🏽
As a beginner as well, I totally feel everything you mentioned struggling with. Seems like it's the same issues that tend to plague all beginners
@@DelZ3030 we will get there brother
Great content and can’t wait to see how you improve! I think your channel will do very well. You and your brother are very likable and your camerawork/editing is top notch. 4:02 you’re 100% correct. I also transitioned from basketball to tennis and it took me a long time to realize the importance of tennis specific footwork. Naturally moving well to get the balls is obviously an advantage, but it’s the tiny adjustment steps that will take you to another level of consistency. You can grove the most picture perfect strokes, but if you don’t put yourself in the exact correct position then you won’t be able to use them. Getting setup with proper footwork is the secret sauce, and many countries don’t even let their juniors hit balls until they get this part down as it is a key fundamental. You’ve already got proper mechanics on your forehand so it feels smooth when you happen to be turned, spaced, and balanced properly. You feel like you short arm them at times because you’re not quite in the correct turned/balanced position before starting your swing. In other words, before you watch 100 hours of how to hit a forehand/backhand etc, first focus on being turned/balanced/spaced before the ball bounces. You’re naturally athletic so everything else will fall into place much faster if you don’t underestimate the importance of this. Part of this also requires experience to read balls much faster so you know where to get set and prepared so you have time, but once you get it it’s like using the force. Best of luck 🫡
Who is the brother?
@@dpadron his brother Trey started a channel called Winners Only (must check it out too), where he starts as a complete novice and shows his journey. This video is on Winners Only Two I think. The younger brother featured on this channel is the cameraman/ helps edit etc on the original channel and now will hopefully show the same journey of a beginner who falls in love with tennis and how they improve over time. I think he’ll improve rapidly and will catch up to Trey and make some interesting battles.
I frankly shouldn’t mention this at your current stage of development. It’s sorta like telling a kid that can barely dribble a basketball without looking at the ball that if he dribbled behind his back he could have made a particular drive to the basket without getting the ball stolen. At 20:21 you’re at the net and Lexi hits a slow passing shot that gets by you. You run it down but I think you hit it over the back fence. Balls that get behind you can be returned back. The key change is that if the ball is on your left/forehand side in this situation where your back is to the court you hold a slight backhand grip. If it’s on your right/backhand side hold a forehand grip. If you stand facing the back fence and hold the racket in front of you, you will see that these “reverse” grips allow you to more easily point the racket face back towards the court. There’s not enough space here to explain the various ways to swing the racket in these emergency defensive situations but if you just try and lob or float the ball back I think your smart enough to figure out how to get the ball back once you experiment a little. The key is to hit the sweet spot and dont think offensive at all. Just try and get the ball back. Offense will come later in your development. The only reason I mention this is that with your foot speed this situation will come up quite often. Watch some Mansour Bahrami videos for pointers. He is a retired tennis player who likes entertain crowds and will put himself in similar situations as yours just to show off.
5:38 Shanking balls is usually a sign of using your arm in isolation; it looks as if you set your body a bit too early on that forehand, i.e. a footwork problem. Could well be an outcome of being too tight/nervous and not moving as freely as you would normally do.
Overall though, your footwork is way ahead of many players, and even Federer could shank a ball when under pressure. Just look at the 2019 Wimbledon finale against Djokovic.
OoOo I tend to shank the ball more often than I want to (It miraculously go in) so this comment resonates with me. this is good insight!
Well played. I feel like I improved a lot once I started to play in a league. You get to play against different play styles which makes your game more well rounded.
Dude amazing effort keep up the grind ❤
Thanks for the upload! Thanks Lexi for coming on. Your game is really making progress, you're doing great work. I see the makings of a monster server like Trey. And your instincts at net are already insane, way better than me and I've been playing for years
How you lined up the music with your point at 9:58 is perfect 🤌
Last: Try to not run while hitting, some of your returns are very 50/50 if they go in or into the net because you run up to the ball and keep moving while hitting (ex: 18:55). Run into position, split step/stop, swing and then move. And vs someone who serves like this opponent does, instead of you standing that far behind baseline and running into every return, you should adjust and take position two steps into the court. When they serve, you split step and do 1 step forward and hit that return. Starting behind baseline for the first serves of a match is fine, but you need to adjust. You are standing where you would stand vs Treys serves even after one full set of serves that are a lot slower pace. Looking forward to seeing your next match!
yep, really working on that
music choice always awesome on this channel!
it sounds very different than what I was expecting the video is going to be about lol
volley technique not super polished (understandable), but your net play looks really organic! big potential there 📈
More natural at the net than his brother.
Poor Trey
Did comment this on your previous video too. At 12:46, you need to stop going to AD court after your Deuce side serve. You should have been burned at 14:41. 16:35 she hits a good return, but it's a return you should manage to hit back, as she did not hit it hard with pace, but you are so out of position so you fumble it. The big % return is cross court, and you leave it wide open. If you are gonna get burned on returns, at least make them hit the hard shot (down the line). If you practice some serve/returns with Trey, have him try 10 returns DTL and 10 returns cross court. I bet he hits 8/10 or 9/10 cross, but will only manage 2-3/10 DTL (with depth, not talking about a slow loopy return landing inside service box on AD side). And then it's very clear which side you should relocate to after your serve!
really good advice here, watching it back I am noticing it every time. weird habit lol
I was rlly confused when u mentioned the overhead dropshot, but then I realised you were talking about lobs 🤣
Im beggining to play some tournaments here in Brasil too, and the game just feels different from the training, I definitely feel u bro
@@preguim1000 haha yeah i wish i knew what i was talking about. i love the competitive feeling though
@@Winners-Only-Deuce A lob is a high shot over the net player. A drop shot is a short shot, barely past the net. An overhead is when you take a high ball out of the air, like a serve. Your tennis game is outpacing your tennis vocabulary, that's a good thing :)
As a beginner your net is impressive..great video..
thank you!
Nice tunes, and your forehand looks very natural.
great uploading your matches! I just subbed, keep working on your game and you'll get significantly better. Lots of potential to reach the next level!
Deuce will get better faster than his brother. everything is so fluid for a beginner.. even the footwork.. He don't have such basketball muscle that will likely inhibit his tennis growth whatsoever..
This is great Kyle. Btw, what was your camera setup here? The angle, view and quality is on point.
thumbnail right made me come here
I'm sayin, I need to start playing UTR
Just keep swinging! If you ever find yourself in North Georgia, hit me up for a match. I’m a fan of both you and your brother.
@@freakofnaturelolhehe6310 will do, thank you!
Keep it coming, hard to be clutch on your first match you had the chances though. Don't think too hard about it and get some more experience :)
Think you undersell your net skills a bit, you finish a lot of points with solid overheads/slams. What you need more work on is the regular volley. Also try to angle them a bit more, you did seem to aim a lot of the volleys right back at your opponent, giving her a chance to do something with the ball without her actually moving.
yep, regular volley needs work. haven't gotten a chance to grind on that part of the game yet
With your size you should be winning more net points. You have to hit better approach shots ( deeper ball or into the corners) so you can use your size to cutoff the court. In this match too many approach shots hit to the center of the court, leaving you open to get passed on either side. Keep playing matches too improve overall gameplay..
lets get ittttt
If you were a actor your Q rating would be way above average. You present yourself very favorably. Now to tennis. As a tennis player you’re the equivalent of a newborn baby. A baby is just expected to crawl first not run a sub 10 second 100 meters. Yes you were a D1 basketball player but tennis is a completely different sport. If you were a rated table tennis player then that sport would give you more advantages over a person without a sports background. Basketball does make you a very smooth mover for someone 6’5 and if you maintain a reasonable level of basketball conditioning you’ll have a advantage over the majority of tennis players, even most advanced ones, in areas of stamina and strength. The one area they would probably beat you in is rotator cuff conditioning.
Remember every Pro you see on TV once sucked as much or more than you do when they first started. It’s just that we expect little kids to struggle at first. With encouragement and coaching some develop into advanced players, many of whom forget that they once sucked. I’ve seen four Juniors go from so so kid players to HS tennis champions and then to D1 Tennis teams. It’s only your adult ego getting in your way. Remember you have the advantage over any Junior of already being fully physically developed and having a D1 basketball background at that. Believe me if you could see a D1 tennis player with zero basketball experience try to learn to play basketball after graduating it would make you feel real good about your starting level at tennis. Don’t get down on yourself. Trey was where you were at a year and a half ago and frankly he still volleys only marginally better then you do.
thank you for this. definitely need to work on being a little more patient with myself
What racquets were each of you using?
Those serves on the T get called out a lot. Even by my friends that I know would never flag anyone on purpose.
What is the UTR?
we are both unranked atm since it was our first league
Music prevented me from watching more than 30 seconds
@@clydewmorgan so you’d rather some youtube AI generated music or what 😂
Ummm, what's with the 70's porn music? =(
@@Tennisbum11 I have no idea what that even means. These are modern day rap instrumentals
@@Winners-Only-Deuce I'd just say either leave the tennis sounds, or do voiceover. I muted it so I could watch it. Sorry sir, that music was awful.
@@Tennisbum11 idk what you got against soul samples lol