The amount of lost silent films during the early 20th century that were intentionally left to rot by studios due to them believing movies were just a fad is a cultural tragedy! The amount of classic movies we may never knew even existed due to the master copies being intentionally left to rot just makes you have endless sleepless nights.
@@laurenredmond1881 definitely, to erase something just because an individual deems it worthless deprives it for someone who would find value in it. There is the danger that if nothing is erased we'll get 'snowed under' with content but that's where editors and archivists like yourself will have an increasingly important role in giving structure to the data.
What was also lost was my parents wedding footage when my Dad accidently recorded the 1996 superbowl over them. It became a tradition where we watch it on Fathers day.
@@kerbosplat5119 Sure. There’s an American type of joke about different kinds of holy men walking into a bar. It’s kind of a cliché. You can search for “minister, priest, and rabbi jokes.” They’re old-fashioned and often politically incorrect. In the first story on this video, a priest, a rabbi, and a Tibetan monk walk onto a movie set. To people who have heard these jokes, it sounds like the start of another terrible joke. Wasn’t sure if you were serious with your response at first. I hope that helps. 😉
I wish that old film reels weren't nitrate, it's so fucked up how badly that turned out, either it bursts into flames or it degrades, pick your poison.
Ikr? And left behind such a toxic and dangerous medium for archivists to work with today. It is a beautiful medium, hence the name the silver screen but it is an insanely dangerous and flammable substance
Even later plastic film bases had their deteriorationg problems, nitrate was then the best material available. Celluloid acetate can also turn unscreenable: shrink to wobbly and smell like vinegar (hence the name, vinegar syndrome), but it doesn't indeed self-combust or is impossible to extinguish like nitrate.
And that's probably why the 1937 Fox (20th Century Fox) Storage Fire started. I'm not sure how many films were lost in it, but it's part of why we're missing 4 out of the 44 Charlie Chan movies.
It’s sad that many piece of lost can never be recovered no matter how hard the community tries, either due to time, a huge lack of any preservation, legal issues, or being intentionally destroyed by the actual creators or a separate party. That’s why it’s important to document as much information as we can so that the mere existence of these lost pieces of media can be preserved from being erased from history.
@@J0SHUAKANE definitely News for social and crime. official Media Archives for megapopular and unknown media I'd say military classifieds are also good for lost media too
"The maps they were using didnt show the cables, so they were acquitted" The maps didn't show the cables cuz pilots weren't expected to be flying that low in the first place, so wouldnt need to be made aware of the cables. That whole incident reeks of unprofessionalism and reckless endangerment
Right? Since when is not knowing about an obstacle an excuse for manslaughter? People can't just say "that bus stop wasn't on my map" to get away with running people over so I don't see why these pilots can kill 20 people with the same reasoning. If anything, they should be held to a much higher standard than your average citizen.
@@the4tierbridge correct Mounted cameras are often used by flight instructors to critique and help them become better pilots Then again, the A-6 intruder isn't a damn cropduster. They should've all gotten Leavenworth
Though digital archives aren't a sure thing either. There's a lot of cases where lost media will get found, only for the link to go dead and become unrecoverable. There really is no fool-proof way to back up anything.
As an archivist I'll say digital is good short term but long term has flaws, unless it is regularly updated to fit the newer ways. I.e how easy is it to retrieve something on a floppy disk. But with digital it still needs updating where as physical can be left alone for years before anything like degrade.
Rip rapidshare archives. This is pretty obscure, but some blog called boards of electronica has archived a lot of old songs via rapidshare, but rapidshare shut down on 2015. Some of the songs are available on their new youtube page, but they’re uploading at a snails pace, so some things will take years to get some songs reuploaded, and its not as good as having the files.
The scary thing about this is that going digital makes us believe these movies, pictures, video games, music, etc will be around forever. However there is a large number of websites and digital archives that are no longer functioning. As well as the issue of computer hardware, such as hard disc drives, failing after decades and the information being unrecoverable.
There's this very obscure one that has always stuck out to me. St. Francis (also known as Nightmare and Dreams and Saint Francis: Dreams and Nightmare was an animated anti-war film released around late 1930's. It was destroyed when Nazis invaded France, though there are rumors of cells that survived the destruction.
@@marcioleonardo7402 I fail to see the relevance. But as far as I'm aware, yes, some potential ends for humans are predictable, (if the sun were to finally die and we were all on earth, for example). Other potential ends aren't (any sort of eschatological end of the world wouldn't be predictable, at least according to some). I hope that answers your question well enough
Funny how the first Rambo film could've easily ended up on this list. Stallone was so disappointed by the first cut of the film that he attempted to destroy it before editing it into the film that we have today.
More like Disney was mainly ashamed of the budget issues that surrounded Welcome to Pooh Corner. That’s why its employees burned off much of the footage and refuse to dump the rest of it into Disney plus!
@Insert Name Here Right?! Lol. I mean, that HAS to be the worst/cringiest of it. I honestly just want one specific episode so I can finish creating/duplicating a "Cartoon Tape" me and my brother made as kids. I taped over the Welcome to Pooh Corner episode with the Eek! The Cat intro (?) and one of the green ranger episodes. NEVER did I expect to be responsible for a piece of media being lost. It honestly still turns my stomach
@@4Legacy don't feel too bad, I'm sure a ton of people have done the same. Intentionally destroying something so nobody could see it is different than simply not knowing what the future would hold. Don't beat yourself up. Maybe one day someone else will find it :)
When it comes to intentionally destroyed pieces of Lost Media, the missing episodes of Doctor Who certainly come to mind. Of these, episode 7 of "The Daleks'' Master Plan" titled "The Feast of Steven" is probably one of the best examples. "The Feast of Steven" was a Christmas Special that took place in the middle of the serial and was pretty much entirely unrelated to the plot of the serial. It even ended with the First Doctor breaking the 4th wall and wishing the audience a Merry Christmas. As I understand it, the episode was sent to be wiped not long after airing and is thus the first episode of Doctor Who to become Lost Media.
@@the4tierbridge It was recorded to tape, and the tape was later wiped for reuse. No copies of the tape were ever made for overseas distribution. All that is left is the off air recorded audio, and off air photographs.
I couldn't believe my own ears upon first learning the BBC just left damn near all master recordings of the original show in the basement of their old studio when they moved to a new place. Unbelievable how reckless, careless and downright irresponsible execs were back then. Whether they considered "talkies" a fad or were just uninterested in the material, to leave something that meant so much to so many to literally rot away breaks my heart
Yes, it’s infamous that the First and Second Doctor had many lost episodes. Especially the Second Doctor’s post regeneration story. Luckily some of its lost media is at least animated now
One piece of lost media that might have been intentionally destroyed I know of is the movie Humor Risk. It was a silent short film, most notable because it was the screen debut of the Marx Brothers. The rumor goes that the premiere was so disastrous that Groucho burned the prints himself, but it may have simply just been lost on accident, no one really knows. If you make a part 2 of this it might be good to include.
"African History Y" sounds very tongue in cheek, but it's something I'd genuinely be interested in seeing because American History X is so good. In the end, I'd say all the drama led to a movie that was incredible by all accounts.
i always thought that the star wars holiday special was destroyed and only survived through tv recordings, given how much lucas hated it but now that the cartoon segments are available on disney+ and bluray; literally in hd... seems likely that it ""probably"" still lives. maybe
Cartoon segments are way easier to remaster or recreate into full hd though. Either by painstakingly redrawing each cell or having a machine learning process do it for you. The live action segments, not so much.
I wasn't aware that the man behind A Trip to the Moon had to cut down a lot of his films because of his accruing debts. My friends and I recently watched The Life Aquatic with Steve Zissou, and I feel like that movie may have taken some inspiration from Melies' work in some aspects.
You should do one about lost PSAs and PIFs. There's one on the tv tropes page I can't seem to find. It was called "And she lost hope" and apparently it was pretty graphic. It was about domestic violence and it was made by a company in Portugal. They have similar titled ones on UA-cam by the same organization but it's not what was described. I'm sure there's many others too that people have randomly seen and don't know much about after
Kind of an intentional lost media: the Jean-Michel Jarre album Music for Supermarkets (Musique pour Supermarché). Intentionally pressed only once, master destroyed, sold on an auction and broadcasted only once on AM radio (RTL) at the time with Jean-Michel Jarre encouraging "robbing" the sound. His intention was to make an unique piece like a painting. Broadcast recordings are easy to find these days but the quality is far from perfect. Some parts were re-released / re-interpreted later by Jean-Michel Jarre but the full original soundtrack is not available to the public in its full quality to this day.
Sometimes I wonder what if movies like Cannibal Holocaust were lost media and all we had to go off was a few photos behind the scenes, the deleted scene photo, and the interview with Gabriel York (the man who played Alan Yates)
Well nope to say it never got removed but censored by the British film board of certification in 84 and there were an only theatrical showing in 2014 in Leeds West Yorkshire uk in which the director attended the event started at 11 pm and concluded at 4am It was an great night been there
with the Commodore era, I wonder if some of the games/programs my dad has or had are lost? Some of them I know arent, like Bard's Tale, but I want to see if I can backup the savedata somehow, the fact that this 30 year old save data hasn't corrupted or wiped is incredible to me, it should be preserved. At least I hope the data is still there, we tested it a few years ago but it could've been lost in the time since. I wouldn't be surprised though if we DID have something lost but the floppy discs have since lost their data, either by nearby magnets or just natural degradation (in a sense), as he pirated a lot back then, and most of the commercial floppy discs were lower quality. Like he mentioned this program where you could create sheet music, he sent it to a friend of his who needed it, I dunno if thats been preserved, especially since its not a game, so it might be considered important enough to preserve.
Please, please back that up, especially the notation software. As a composer and music history enthusiast, so much of our tools and resources over the years have gone undocumented. Early music notation software is mostly unarchived to my knowledge, so that wpuld be an incredible thing to see
NOBODY EVER TALKS ABOUT THIS LOST MOVIE * THE SEX PISTOLS WHO KILLED BAMBI , it was destroyed after the manger of the Sex Pistols never paid anyone for there work / was too gnarly , the script was written by Robert Ebert and would have been a debut film for a lot of actors
i would LOVE to see a part two to this!! these sorts of stories are tragedies in their own right, but continuing to tell the stories ensures that some memory of what was lost continues on!
An incredible cache of Méliés’ and other silent era filmmakers’ lost work was saved from imminent destruction by a history teacher in Iowa named Michael Zahs. The fascinating story of Zahs’ discovery, and his decades-long struggle to get anyone to recognize its importance, is brilliantly recounted in the documentary “Saving Brinton”, which I highly recommend to anyone who shares a love of lost media and appreciates the sometimes superhuman effort dedicated individuals will undertake to preserve it.
There's so much lost media out there that we on some level are cogniscient of their existence, but you have to wonder how much lost media there is that has been so completely lost that no one even remembers it anymore
@@ijustlikebees No it's not - there is already too much media to watch in a lifetime with a huge amount being added every day. There is a reason stuff is forgotten, it simply ceases to become relevant.
The JFK assassination literally destroyed Vaughn Meader's career. When Lenny Bruce had his first stand-up comedy gig after JFK was assassinated, the audience was at the edge of their seats waiting for what outrageous thing Lenny Bruce would say first. There was a really long pause. Then Lenny broke the silence to say, "Vaughn Meader is fucked!" That line absolutely brought the house down.
another great vid as always!! please make a part 2, i know there's so many death videos/serial killer tapes/etc that are lost media that many other channels have already covered, but i'd love to see you cover the ones you find interesting!
To learn what happened to George Méliès as well as his films breaks my heart to such an extent I sometimes have to fight back tears. I mean, for the army to use the material for f*@$ing boot heels or whatever, it was makes me sick to my stomach
I know a random bit of lost media that some folks might find interesting. There is a single episode of KND that was never aired. It was part of a contest held by Cartoon Network's branch in Brazil to promote the show, the premise was that you'd write in details from each of the first few episodes, mail them in and get picked out of a list of contestants to have your own character put into an episode. It was made to tape, handed to the winner and everyone else only really got to see a glimpse of the particular character in a commercial break where Number One introduced their new agent and that was that. I recall the winner's character was a girl with some kinda hover bike contraption for her 'gear'. As far as I can tell, the winner never posted any kind of backup of it to anywhere. So it might be lost, or it might just be buried in someone's junk drawer.
Crazy to think, but I've read that American History X's original script was more of a generic crime thriller, and that the themes of racism and social commentary were originally an afterthought.
I've got an example: The footage of Brandon Lee's death. Everybody knows the Elephant in the Room regarding The Crow, with Brandon Lee's on-set death more or less overshadowing the film. The camera was rolling when Michael Massee fired the faulty prop gun that killed Lee, and after things were settled in court with Lee's mother, the footage of Lee's death was destroyed.
No idea if they were intentionally destroyed or accidentally lost, but to me the most important piece of lost media ever, are the missing tapes of the Moon Landing. How do you lose something so absolutely priceless as the only footage of humans on the moon???!!!???
Don’t ask me how I know but Frank Sinatra starred in a porno in the 30s, and once he was gaining fame, he ordered all copies to be destroyed. It was called The Masked Bandit (not the Kissing Bandit, that’s a 40s movie). Maybe you could talk about it in the next one?
Wooow I knew about the A-6 cable car disaster but I never knew the crew destroyed the tape footage. what scumbags hopefully they see real justice someday.
Hello, thank you very much for the video and the content of your channel. A video about Alice Guy, the true pioneer of film and special effects (pre-Mellies), would be nice and since her films were lost or attributed to other directors, she was the first to make a short with only African American actors.
Awesome work as always! There's a lesser known piece of lost media that's barely ever touched on. It's Émile Reynaud's animated shorts, his films were made in the 1890s, predating most of the well known early animated movies. Later in his life he threw all but a couple of his works in the Seine river, meaning a good majority of his animated works are now lost.
6:38 They is a Possible other lost Media version of this game. The Arcade version it was location tested in a Arcade at Morcambe bay UK. Thing is it's a Japanese game series and would of been developed in Arcade in Japan. But the games before it Bubble Bobble and Rainbow Islands was Mario popular in UK in the 80' so maybe this is why it was tested in UK. Some belive this location test was just the PC engine/TG 16 version in a arcade cabinet.
in the wrestling industry there was a lost media that was thought to be gone forever of Bret Hart vs Tom Magee, it was a non televised match that was filmed in 1986 and basically Bret made Tom look like a million bucks in the ring to the point that the WWF execs thought that Tom would become the next Hulk Hogan, sadly Tom without someone like Bret to guide him in the ring was a walking calamity and so he fizzled out. After word of this match being filmed fans wanted to see this match, WWF realized they dont have the tape in their archives anywhere, Bret didnt know about the tape it was seen as a holy grail for fans as even the most inside people of the business have never seen the match, fast forward to 2019 and Bret hired a photographer he knew to take all his vhs tapes and convert them to digital and she found the match in Bret's tapes.
I’m sure if you really cared, you could find it, but the Disney Channel series The Famous Jett Jackson (and the accompanying movie) haven’t been seen in over a decade. The last rerun of the show was 2006 iirc. It’s not on Disney+, and wasn’t on any streaming services prior. It’s like Disney wanted people to forget about it. I don’t think there was anything “controversial” in it, so I don’t know why it’s unavailable.
Interesting vid! I recommend looking into Michael Mann's 1983 WWII horror movie "The Keep". Short story is that Mann's original 240 min long cut of the film was forced to be cut down to just 90 mins, and none of this footage has been seen since, although a slightly extended ending sequence was featured on some TV airings of the film. It's a very interesting yet tragic story imo, "The Keep" might have ended up being a legitimately good film by Mann, but the film as is has it's dedicated cult following, myself among them!
The amount of lost silent films during the early 20th century that were intentionally left to rot by studios due to them believing movies were just a fad is a cultural tragedy! The amount of classic movies we may never knew even existed due to the master copies being intentionally left to rot just makes you have endless sleepless nights.
Not to mention early television series from 50's and 60's
It hurts my soul to think about it too, especially now that we have unlimited storage capacity and nothing needs to be erased 😭
You’ve no idea how much it hurts me too from an archivists point of view...
I feel like by doing that we’re wiping away humanity piece by piece
@@laurenredmond1881 definitely, to erase something just because an individual deems it worthless deprives it for someone who would find value in it. There is the danger that if nothing is erased we'll get 'snowed under' with content but that's where editors and archivists like yourself will have an increasingly important role in giving structure to the data.
Fuck them boring ass movies
What was also lost was my parents wedding footage when my Dad accidently recorded the 1996 superbowl over them. It became a tradition where we watch it on Fathers day.
Cowboys Steelers or Patriots and Packers?
same!!! the last video of my grandpa was recorded over with Barney the Dinosaur.
@@SykoMuffin That Just Sad SykoMuffin, The Last Video Of Ur Grandpa That Was Recorded Of Barny The Dinosaur 😢
I thought that shit only happened in sitcoms…
Number one sounds like the worst joke ever: “So a priest, a rabbi, and a Tibetan monk walk onto a movie set. . .”
i dont get the joke
@@kerbosplat5119 Sounds like you’re a true agnostic.
explain joke pls
@@kerbosplat5119 Sure. There’s an American type of joke about different kinds of holy men walking into a bar. It’s kind of a cliché. You can search for “minister, priest, and rabbi jokes.” They’re old-fashioned and often politically incorrect. In the first story on this video, a priest, a rabbi, and a Tibetan monk walk onto a movie set. To people who have heard these jokes, it sounds like the start of another terrible joke.
Wasn’t sure if you were serious with your response at first. I hope that helps. 😉
@@racheltheehermit7314
He hasn’t responded.
I wish that old film reels weren't nitrate, it's so fucked up how badly that turned out, either it bursts into flames or it degrades, pick your poison.
Ikr? And left behind such a toxic and dangerous medium for archivists to work with today. It is a beautiful medium, hence the name the silver screen but it is an insanely dangerous and flammable substance
Even later plastic film bases had their deteriorationg problems, nitrate was then the best material available. Celluloid acetate can also turn unscreenable: shrink to wobbly and smell like vinegar (hence the name, vinegar syndrome), but it doesn't indeed self-combust or is impossible to extinguish like nitrate.
Degradation is probably better. You have a greater chance of being able to remaster it.
And that's probably why the 1937 Fox (20th Century Fox) Storage Fire started. I'm not sure how many films were lost in it, but it's part of why we're missing 4 out of the 44 Charlie Chan movies.
"Do you want me to do a part2?" yeah man have we ever said no?
I love how you put a disclaimer that Jeff Buckley isn't a Nazi
Is that 100% confirmed though?
He did write that awful song Hallelujah, and that's basically the same as a Nazi war crime
@@gregh378 Wtf are you on about? Also Leonard Cohen wrote it.
@@stratosphere94 I know. I'm obviously joking... Although I guess that's not obvious.
@@stratosphere94 ratio
It’s sad that many piece of lost can never be recovered no matter how hard the community tries, either due to time, a huge lack of any preservation, legal issues, or being intentionally destroyed by the actual creators or a separate party. That’s why it’s important to document as much information as we can so that the mere existence of these lost pieces of media can be preserved from being erased from history.
Well the creators where ashamed by their work it was bad enough to be destroyed so why should we see it its disrespectful
@@sandman1576 true
I mean some stuff are better off lost
@@5ifthaveblackat "but some want them to live in history....what an irony, isn't it?
Lost media, is to us, what the library of Alexandria was to history.
It's probably astounding the amount of lost media that's likely just sitting in a private company physical archive or digital server.
Yep. News servers would be the biggest goldmine.
@@J0SHUAKANE definitely News for social and crime.
official Media Archives for megapopular and unknown media
I'd say military classifieds are also good for lost media too
Or in salt mines.
"The maps they were using didnt show the cables, so they were acquitted"
The maps didn't show the cables cuz pilots weren't expected to be flying that low in the first place, so wouldnt need to be made aware of the cables. That whole incident reeks of unprofessionalism and reckless endangerment
Were they Top Gun fanatics? They were written up for it before. I wonder if they have trouble distinguishing fantasy and reality.
Right? Since when is not knowing about an obstacle an excuse for manslaughter? People can't just say "that bus stop wasn't on my map" to get away with running people over so I don't see why these pilots can kill 20 people with the same reasoning. If anything, they should be held to a much higher standard than your average citizen.
they should've been charged for killing all 20 when they found out they had filmed doing it and then destroyed it
@@sexysolaire1203 Why? Filming was standard procedure as evidence of how they did.
@@the4tierbridge correct
Mounted cameras are often used by flight instructors to critique and help them become better pilots
Then again, the A-6 intruder isn't a damn cropduster.
They should've all gotten Leavenworth
Things like this is why I'm so glad digital archives exist. Nowadays unless something is obscure it will likely be preserved in some form.
Though digital archives aren't a sure thing either. There's a lot of cases where lost media will get found, only for the link to go dead and become unrecoverable. There really is no fool-proof way to back up anything.
As an archivist I'll say digital is good short term but long term has flaws, unless it is regularly updated to fit the newer ways. I.e how easy is it to retrieve something on a floppy disk. But with digital it still needs updating where as physical can be left alone for years before anything like degrade.
Rip rapidshare archives. This is pretty obscure, but some blog called boards of electronica has archived a lot of old songs via rapidshare, but rapidshare shut down on 2015. Some of the songs are available on their new youtube page, but they’re uploading at a snails pace, so some things will take years to get some songs reuploaded, and its not as good as having the files.
The scary thing about this is that going digital makes us believe these movies, pictures, video games, music, etc will be around forever. However there is a large number of websites and digital archives that are no longer functioning. As well as the issue of computer hardware, such as hard disc drives, failing after decades and the information being unrecoverable.
Myspace deleting literally everything would like to have a word with you
There's this very obscure one that has always stuck out to me. St. Francis (also known as Nightmare and Dreams and Saint Francis: Dreams and Nightmare was an animated anti-war film released around late 1930's. It was destroyed when Nazis invaded France, though there are rumors of cells that survived the destruction.
Ok?
@@sandman1576 And?
That’s rad! Being from the area affected by the disaster!
That’s really interesting. How did you hear about this one?
@@sandman1576 Could you, shut up?
I wouldn’t even destroy my least favorite pieces of media.
Thank you, UA-cam commenter Toganium
I want to destroy all of them
@@sandman1576 Soon we'll stop talking about lost media, as all media will be lost
@@jbdbibbaerman8071 Is there a predictable end of Earth, mankind or universe?
@@marcioleonardo7402 I fail to see the relevance. But as far as I'm aware, yes, some potential ends for humans are predictable, (if the sun were to finally die and we were all on earth, for example). Other potential ends aren't (any sort of eschatological end of the world wouldn't be predictable, at least according to some). I hope that answers your question well enough
Funny how the first Rambo film could've easily ended up on this list. Stallone was so disappointed by the first cut of the film that he attempted to destroy it before editing it into the film that we have today.
Ironically, that was the same director who created Wake In Fright (which was mentioned in this video).
He told them to destroy it, but no one could understand him!
I'm starting to wonder if Disney burned up their Welcome to Pooh Corner footage. Or if they're just too ashamed of it to put it on Disney+
More like Disney was mainly ashamed of the budget issues that surrounded Welcome to Pooh Corner. That’s why its employees burned off much of the footage and refuse to dump the rest of it into Disney plus!
@Insert Name Here Right?! Lol. I mean, that HAS to be the worst/cringiest of it. I honestly just want one specific episode so I can finish creating/duplicating a "Cartoon Tape" me and my brother made as kids. I taped over the Welcome to Pooh Corner episode with the Eek! The Cat intro (?) and one of the green ranger episodes. NEVER did I expect to be responsible for a piece of media being lost. It honestly still turns my stomach
It's not bad
@@4Legacy don't feel too bad, I'm sure a ton of people have done the same. Intentionally destroying something so nobody could see it is different than simply not knowing what the future would hold. Don't beat yourself up. Maybe one day someone else will find it :)
When it comes to intentionally destroyed pieces of Lost Media, the missing episodes of Doctor Who certainly come to mind.
Of these, episode 7 of "The Daleks'' Master Plan" titled "The Feast of Steven" is probably one of the best examples. "The Feast of Steven" was a Christmas Special that took place in the middle of the serial and was pretty much entirely unrelated to the plot of the serial. It even ended with the First Doctor breaking the 4th wall and wishing the audience a Merry Christmas.
As I understand it, the episode was sent to be wiped not long after airing and is thus the first episode of Doctor Who to become Lost Media.
1: He's already talked about Feast of Steven
2: Feast of Steven was never even recorded. Nothing to wipe.
@@the4tierbridge It was recorded to tape, and the tape was later wiped for reuse. No copies of the tape were ever made for overseas distribution. All that is left is the off air recorded audio, and off air photographs.
@@KejnTheImmortal No, it was preformed live.
I couldn't believe my own ears upon first learning the BBC just left damn near all master recordings of the original show in the basement of their old studio when they moved to a new place.
Unbelievable how reckless, careless and downright irresponsible execs were back then. Whether they considered "talkies" a fad or were just uninterested in the material, to leave something that meant so much to so many to literally rot away breaks my heart
Yes, it’s infamous that the First and Second Doctor had many lost episodes. Especially the Second Doctor’s post regeneration story. Luckily some of its lost media is at least animated now
One piece of lost media that might have been intentionally destroyed I know of is the movie Humor Risk. It was a silent short film, most notable because it was the screen debut of the Marx Brothers. The rumor goes that the premiere was so disastrous that Groucho burned the prints himself, but it may have simply just been lost on accident, no one really knows. If you make a part 2 of this it might be good to include.
He's already talked about that one.
@@the4tierbridge Aw dang, which video?
@@jessicanewton8051 One of the earlier ones I think. Maybe his first.
Get therapy, please. "Asexuality" isn't a thing.
@@user-fe8gx3ie5v that is really relevant to this conversation
I used to be irritated by your "O! Hi there!" opening but then I realized I just wish I was as happy as you. Keep up the good work!
yeah no,it's still cringy AF
I've never found it cringy or anything?
I personally love it. It's as if he were a character like Mr. Rogers, and he's talking to you about lost media. "Oh, hi there bud!"
"African History Y" sounds very tongue in cheek, but it's something I'd genuinely be interested in seeing because American History X is so good. In the end, I'd say all the drama led to a movie that was incredible by all accounts.
Wonder if it's about Black Power movement?
Asian History Z
@@user-hr8rc1of3x prequel: Canadian History, Eh?
@@MissSallyB1 underated comment,you deserve a lot of likes,here's the first one
African History...Why?
i always thought that the star wars holiday special was destroyed and only survived through tv recordings, given how much lucas hated it
but now that the cartoon segments are available on disney+ and bluray; literally in hd... seems likely that it ""probably"" still lives. maybe
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@@codycruickshank2283 the mentioned tv recordings
it's likely the cartoon segments were archived separately by the animation studio, so Lucas wouldn't have been able to get his hands on that
Cartoon segments are way easier to remaster or recreate into full hd though. Either by painstakingly redrawing each cell or having a machine learning process do it for you. The live action segments, not so much.
I wasn't aware that the man behind A Trip to the Moon had to cut down a lot of his films because of his accruing debts. My friends and I recently watched The Life Aquatic with Steve Zissou, and I feel like that movie may have taken some inspiration from Melies' work in some aspects.
You should do one about lost PSAs and PIFs. There's one on the tv tropes page I can't seem to find. It was called "And she lost hope" and apparently it was pretty graphic. It was about domestic violence and it was made by a company in Portugal. They have similar titled ones on UA-cam by the same organization but it's not what was described. I'm sure there's many others too that people have randomly seen and don't know much about after
"All 20 people died, but the plane was ok." 💀💀💀
natural selection
“Kubrik has since denied this” makes it sound like he has spoken about it recently. He has been dead since 1999.
Where on earth did you hear that Parasol Stars story? :P
True
Man that story still pisses me off. Also props for not giving the guys name, Larry.
kek
But.., hello you!
I know I do !
If you intentionally destroy evidence, it should automatically be assumed that it shows the worst possible thing that it could be
100%
Kind of an intentional lost media: the Jean-Michel Jarre album Music for Supermarkets (Musique pour Supermarché). Intentionally pressed only once, master destroyed, sold on an auction and broadcasted only once on AM radio (RTL) at the time with Jean-Michel Jarre encouraging "robbing" the sound. His intention was to make an unique piece like a painting. Broadcast recordings are easy to find these days but the quality is far from perfect.
Some parts were re-released / re-interpreted later by Jean-Michel Jarre but the full original soundtrack is not available to the public in its full quality to this day.
Interesting.
Sometimes I wonder what if movies like Cannibal Holocaust were lost media and all we had to go off was a few photos behind the scenes, the deleted scene photo, and the interview with Gabriel York (the man who played Alan Yates)
Well nope to say it never got removed but censored by the British film board of certification in 84 and there were an only theatrical showing in 2014 in Leeds West Yorkshire uk in which the director attended the event started at 11 pm and concluded at 4am
It was an great night been there
@@centrevezgaming4862 No I know I'm saying what if it was lost media. Like you hear the rumors but you never see the movie.
with the Commodore era, I wonder if some of the games/programs my dad has or had are lost? Some of them I know arent, like Bard's Tale, but I want to see if I can backup the savedata somehow, the fact that this 30 year old save data hasn't corrupted or wiped is incredible to me, it should be preserved. At least I hope the data is still there, we tested it a few years ago but it could've been lost in the time since.
I wouldn't be surprised though if we DID have something lost but the floppy discs have since lost their data, either by nearby magnets or just natural degradation (in a sense), as he pirated a lot back then, and most of the commercial floppy discs were lower quality. Like he mentioned this program where you could create sheet music, he sent it to a friend of his who needed it, I dunno if thats been preserved, especially since its not a game, so it might be considered important enough to preserve.
Please, please back that up, especially the notation software. As a composer and music history enthusiast, so much of our tools and resources over the years have gone undocumented. Early music notation software is mostly unarchived to my knowledge, so that wpuld be an incredible thing to see
Pls destroy it
@@sandman1576 Would you PLEASE go away. Your on the wrong video.
@@sandman1576 LOL
The original Land Before Time cut has never been found, but I bet Lucas still has it somewhere
More likely Don Bluth would have it.
@@KejnTheImmortal Don Bluth had nothing to do with the last minute cuts
NOBODY EVER TALKS ABOUT THIS LOST MOVIE * THE SEX PISTOLS WHO KILLED BAMBI , it was destroyed after the manger of the Sex Pistols never paid anyone for there work / was too gnarly , the script was written by Robert Ebert and would have been a debut film for a lot of actors
The fuck is that real lol?
@@mistertagomago7974 yeah 😂I have no social life so I find myself doing a lot of research
Malcolm MacLaren cheat people,and,not pay them?Sounds like just another day,for the dirty old con artist.
I mean, there's an actual 1972 film callex "Naked Girl Killed In The Park, so I shouldn't be too surprised. 🤣
i would LOVE to see a part two to this!! these sorts of stories are tragedies in their own right, but continuing to tell the stories ensures that some memory of what was lost continues on!
I'd love to see more videos like this. My heart always clenches for truly lost media - all the work that was put into it, destroyed and forgotten...
Part 2 please! This was sooooo interesting! Especially the Dr Stangelove entry, I would have loved to see that pie fight
Part 2 of the messed up ones? Yes please!
An incredible cache of Méliés’ and other silent era filmmakers’ lost work was saved from imminent destruction by a history teacher in Iowa named Michael Zahs. The fascinating story of Zahs’ discovery, and his decades-long struggle to get anyone to recognize its importance, is brilliantly recounted in the documentary “Saving Brinton”, which I highly recommend to anyone who shares a love of lost media and appreciates the sometimes superhuman effort dedicated individuals will undertake to preserve it.
There's so much lost media out there that we on some level are cogniscient of their existence, but you have to wonder how much lost media there is that has been so completely lost that no one even remembers it anymore
Horrifying, is it not?
@@ijustlikebees a little scary, a little saddening, and a little crazy
@@ijustlikebees No it's not - there is already too much media to watch in a lifetime with a huge amount being added every day. There is a reason stuff is forgotten, it simply ceases to become relevant.
@@Cheepchipsable hm...new perspective
The JFK assassination literally destroyed Vaughn Meader's career. When Lenny Bruce had his first stand-up comedy gig after JFK was assassinated, the audience was at the edge of their seats waiting for what outrageous thing Lenny Bruce would say first. There was a really long pause. Then Lenny broke the silence to say, "Vaughn Meader is fucked!" That line absolutely brought the house down.
another great vid as always!! please make a part 2, i know there's so many death videos/serial killer tapes/etc that are lost media that many other channels have already covered, but i'd love to see you cover the ones you find interesting!
I’m always down for a part 2! Your videos are always the highlight of my day!
Imagine your film being made into boot heels for French soldiers
Yeah we DEFINITELY need a part two with the more disturbing stuff
To learn what happened to George Méliès as well as his films breaks my heart to such an extent I sometimes have to fight back tears. I mean, for the army to use the material for f*@$ing boot heels or whatever, it was makes me sick to my stomach
Hey Mike, would love to see a part two of this video because I really enjoyed it. Greetings from Ireland - Paul
I know a random bit of lost media that some folks might find interesting. There is a single episode of KND that was never aired. It was part of a contest held by Cartoon Network's branch in Brazil to promote the show, the premise was that you'd write in details from each of the first few episodes, mail them in and get picked out of a list of contestants to have your own character put into an episode. It was made to tape, handed to the winner and everyone else only really got to see a glimpse of the particular character in a commercial break where Number One introduced their new agent and that was that.
I recall the winner's character was a girl with some kinda hover bike contraption for her 'gear'. As far as I can tell, the winner never posted any kind of backup of it to anywhere. So it might be lost, or it might just be buried in someone's junk drawer.
That's so interesting! I love KND so thank you for sharing this!
I'd love a part two of this. Super interesting video full of stuff I've never heard of before.
Please make a part 2, this aspect of lost media is very fascinating to hear about
Yes please do a Part 2! You do awesome work and ty again. Keep kicking butt man!
I love how passionate you are! You always sound like youre grinning in your narration
I like how I can hear his smile in his voice
I hate it. It's very distracting and on many lines...very inappropriate.
I heard there was a deleted scene from the movie Cube where we can see the ending and what's outside of the Cube.
This was great! Hoping for a part 2
DO A PART 2!!!!! It's always a treat when you upload.
Its not a treat you nitwit
Its a whole desert buffet
I would love to see a part two, I love seeing or hearing about lost media
Hell yes I'd like a part two. I love disturbing lost media!
Agreed I love disturbing scary lost medias too
Great Video! It sucks that some of these things are lost forever but I guess that adds to the Mystery. Also yes I would love a part 2.
Dr. Strangelove is one of my all time favs. Congrats on your first sponsor!!
Crazy to think, but I've read that American History X's original script was more of a generic crime thriller, and that the themes of racism and social commentary were originally an afterthought.
I really hope at some point in time you can cover the Not Safe For Life part of lost media
A part 2 will be amazing to see
This is amazing. I would love another video like this!!!
The video was pretty cool, I`m really hoping for a part 2. Just got a new sub, my dude :)
Nobody Ordered Love, from 1972. According to star Ingrid Pitt, it was destroyed due to a clause in the will of the director, Robert Hartford-Davis.
Haven't even heard the 1st on the list but part 2 please. Love your content by the way
Ooh intentionally destroyed stuff is interesting! Also congrats on the sponsor🥳
The Jeff Buckley line caught me so off guard lmaoooo
Me too i was like wtf whys he here
A video on the most important pieces of lost media?
Theres been a lot of historically important lost media out there, should be cool covering them
I'd love to see a part 2 of this!
Praise be for a part 2!!
Part 2 is gonna be insane
Holy smokes! A lot of wake in fright was filmed in my hometown where I still live! Imagine the mind blow seeing it on your video!!!
I've got an example: The footage of Brandon Lee's death. Everybody knows the Elephant in the Room regarding The Crow, with Brandon Lee's on-set death more or less overshadowing the film. The camera was rolling when Michael Massee fired the faulty prop gun that killed Lee, and after things were settled in court with Lee's mother, the footage of Lee's death was destroyed.
Plus the entire Vietnam arc of the 1983 Twilight Zone movie.
That may be considered a deleted scene, though
So I just watched the vid...This was totally different then what I expected...I hadn't heard about any of this ..excellent video !!
No idea if they were intentionally destroyed or accidentally lost, but to me the most important piece of lost media ever, are the missing tapes of the Moon Landing.
How do you lose something so absolutely priceless as the only footage of humans on the moon???!!!???
Don’t ask me how I know but Frank Sinatra starred in a porno in the 30s, and once he was gaining fame, he ordered all copies to be destroyed. It was called The Masked Bandit (not the Kissing Bandit, that’s a 40s movie). Maybe you could talk about it in the next one?
How do you know?
I remeber when you posted your first video🥺 you deserve all the support you've gotten!
Thanks for sticking around 💕 I appreciate your support so much.
Messed up stuff? AND lost media? Hell yeah, a part two is what I need!
Do the part 2. Love all walks of lost media.
Wooow I knew about the A-6 cable car disaster but I never knew the crew destroyed the tape footage. what scumbags hopefully they see real justice someday.
Loved this video and would also love to see a part 2.
Thanks for watching!
First time finding your channel and its an instant sub!
Thanks so much! Glad to have you here!
Part 2 would be a delight
Ah! Yet another great vid from All Things Lost!
Hello, thank you very much for the video and the content of your channel.
A video about Alice Guy, the true pioneer of film and special effects (pre-Mellies), would be nice and since her films were lost or attributed to other directors, she was the first to make a short with only African American actors.
Awesome work as always! There's a lesser known piece of lost media that's barely ever touched on. It's Émile Reynaud's animated shorts, his films were made in the 1890s, predating most of the well known early animated movies. Later in his life he threw all but a couple of his works in the Seine river, meaning a good majority of his animated works are now lost.
The story behind Wake In Fright always interests me, even more so than the actual film itself.
Have you seen it? Its as brilliant film.
6:38 They is a Possible other lost Media version of this game. The Arcade version it was location tested in a Arcade at Morcambe bay UK. Thing is it's a Japanese game series and would of been developed in Arcade in Japan. But the games before it Bubble Bobble and Rainbow Islands was Mario popular in UK in the 80' so maybe this is why it was tested in UK. Some belive this location test was just the PC engine/TG 16 version in a arcade cabinet.
Just do Part 2 already lol. Great and fascinating content.
Yes, please Part2! And how about Lost Media found in the Strangest Places as a possible topic?
There are lost media that have been found in attics everywhere.
@@SlapstickGenius23 and in garden sheds, I know. It's been found all over, even in demolition sites
in the wrestling industry there was a lost media that was thought to be gone forever of Bret Hart vs Tom Magee, it was a non televised match that was filmed in 1986 and basically Bret made Tom look like a million bucks in the ring to the point that the WWF execs thought that Tom would become the next Hulk Hogan, sadly Tom without someone like Bret to guide him in the ring was a walking calamity and so he fizzled out. After word of this match being filmed fans wanted to see this match, WWF realized they dont have the tape in their archives anywhere, Bret didnt know about the tape it was seen as a holy grail for fans as even the most inside people of the business have never seen the match, fast forward to 2019 and Bret hired a photographer he knew to take all his vhs tapes and convert them to digital and she found the match in Bret's tapes.
12:31 I remember hearing about this tragedy in an episode of The Sopranos
YES GIVE US A PART 2
I love how indiscriminate your coverage of lost media is. I suppose nothing being cast aside is fitting for this channel's philosophy.
I’m sure if you really cared, you could find it, but the Disney Channel series The Famous Jett Jackson (and the accompanying movie) haven’t been seen in over a decade. The last rerun of the show was 2006 iirc. It’s not on Disney+, and wasn’t on any streaming services prior. It’s like Disney wanted people to forget about it. I don’t think there was anything “controversial” in it, so I don’t know why it’s unavailable.
It’s because of whatever is related to his untimely death.
They have the videos on yt ua-cam.com/video/gjGD9CKUxjI/v-deo.html
Part 2 sounds like a good idea
You have my attention with a part 2. Please do I wanna see just how dark it can get.
Interesting vid! I recommend looking into Michael Mann's 1983 WWII horror movie "The Keep". Short story is that Mann's original 240 min long cut of the film was forced to be cut down to just 90 mins, and none of this footage has been seen since, although a slightly extended ending sequence was featured on some TV airings of the film. It's a very interesting yet tragic story imo, "The Keep" might have ended up being a legitimately good film by Mann, but the film as is has it's dedicated cult following, myself among them!
Dude please do a part 2!!
the opening with Dr. Strangelove's missiles... >:3
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For that imma purchase this hunt a killer box
id love to see your part two on the worse subjects of this. thank you!!
We demand a part 2.