If you've played Genshin you should know that life isn't fair. If it was none of us would own Qiqi. 😆EDIT: Okay, for the record I have a C4 Qiqi level 81 with 2392 ATK talents 6/8/9. Not hating on Qiqi since I built her for fun, but I am pointing out that we don't always get what we want.
this is because in Star rail there is no explanation and fighting is the only thing you can do in the game that is why characters are more necessary in Genshin you can do 90% of the game with the characters that the game gives you in Star rail this couldn't be further from the truth
@@Keiki-kunpeople also want to play the fighting in Genshin and they don't like they mario party stuff it's why they quit and went to star rail. A lot of people don't care about the mini games
I've loved Genshin to bits ever since it came out, but trying HSR made me so resentful towards how Genshin devs handle their cash cow... We've been asking for certain QoL's since 1.1 and we still have to see majority of them, when it takes a patch or two to implement them in HSR. It feels like I, as a fan who has been filling out surveys for years, am totally ignored.The little Genshin gives us for anniversaries and Lantern Rite makes me feel unappreciated. For the most part, the story still delivers, new areas are fun to explore (although I wish they eased up on the locations locked behind unvoiced questlines with unskippable dialogues), but I'm so tired of being ignored when HSR delivers almost everything their playerbase asks for. Free 5* is just a cherry on top.
true, i recently quit genshin because im just so burnt out of the game but still, considering i have been an active player since launch, it is sad how genshin devs choose to use their resources, it really have me questioning where all that revenue went? considering monthly, they make MILLIONS. them not able to give constant qol update, more enjoyable quality content, actual gifts for the players is just crazy at this point.
And what makes things worse if the HSR fandom is so toxic that they say Genshin player don’t deserve anything, forgetting that most HSR players either play both Genshin and HSR or just straight up left genshin for HSR.
When i started Genshin impact 2.0 it was magical and wonderful. I wanted to express my feelings through feedback and voice my opinions to things that could improve this wonderful game. But when each time a new patch dropped, it felt like it my voice fell on deaf ears. The more years that past new things came up, wonderful characters and worlds, but with that more problems that needed to be brought attention. Compared to HSR when i started I had the same wonderful feelings and saw the fantastic worlds. I filled the survey and brought my thoughts they could improve and also show my appreciation. This time instead of feeling ignored, HSR showed their appreciation and showed us what they've been working on as a solution for QoL. Not even a year has past and HSR has brought up more QoL that i was able to experience with genshin impact. More resin, overflow resin cap, more permanent content, replay events, autoclear stages I'm already strong enough, multiple clear reward for paying more power (power is like resin) and more :D It felt food playing again for me. I think this conversations brings up more than getting 5* but also acknowledging the playerbase and their feedback.
I'm pretty sure the success started at Honkai Impact 3rd since used it's funds to make Genshin and HI3 was the top game and was ahead of its time. Also Genshin got the Covid Boost.
Yeah HI3 was a massive level of success even if Genshin had a far bigger success. Like even if Genshin flopped they could easily have afforded 10 other gachas with HI3 profits
@@thatokperson Yeah like Honkai impact for a mobile game was so ahead at its time back on 2016. I barely even remember any mobile game that came close to Honkai impact's quality.
@@justsomeguyworkingatmcdona6817 ya but they fk cancel are anniversary for global when we get the bunny in 2021 but Chinese players get butt hunt for not getting so they go attack miHoYo company when they are stupid for play Chinese servers also when they cancel the anniversary how much did global fk get 400 or 500 if remember correctly and Chinese players get fk 3000 gem for not get the bunny skin. After that happens miHoYo not listening to global players no more but listening to Chinese players and get use the mid finger on gen anniversary so fk them never play any Chinese game only Japan or Korea.
Im just going to say that in terms of revenue (atleast from Sensor Tower), Genshin had been behind star rail up until October. During November, due to Furina, Genshin almost tripled Star Rail's revenue as November is also a dead month for Star Rail (15 days of november was a banner that people started to not pull due to HSR drip marketing characters that will come out on December [and its an OP one at that] resulting to major backlash for the sales of November going until half of December)
As an ex-genshin player, HSR makes me feel respected especially when it comes to the use of my time. For one, talents aren't locked behind literally certain days of the week or FOMO on events. We get a free 5* from standard banner of our choosing and get this... we actually get *good* content updates, not meaningless side story quests that take 17 hours. You're definitely wrong about HSR having to feed us jades due to lack of open world exploration. We do have some exploration, weekly SU jades, swarm completion, story quests, not to mention more jade income from MOC. There is currently way more content per week to complete in HSR than in genshin.
Exactly. Just look at Jinglius companion quest compared to furinas, a literal archon. It’s so much better how the quest actually deals with the character and not about some random npc who the character just coincides with. Also I’d argue the exploration is better in Star rail. There’s less chests to find but each one is more rewarding than genshin. The weakest chests in Star rail give 5 jades while the common chest in genshin only gives one primogem, and they’re litttered everywhere on the map
@@ronreed4050 Furina quest is better lol. She is an adult who doesn't need to be babied and shemoved on because that's what humans do. The jing liu quest is good yes but most of the quests are beyond lacklustre and just mediocre. I had more fun doing the klee mini game lmao. This random npc argument is an illiterate argument because without side characters there is no story. Its that simple.
@@mangshu21 that’s the thing. I get npcs are needed for the story, but that don’t mean the entire story needs to be about them. Kazuha is one of my favorite characters in the game yet his story quest isn’t even about him. Sure it brings up his clans past but I’m trying to learn more about him, not help a possessed sword find peace. That’s one reason why I wish his actual lore wasn’t tied to a limited event that I missed. It’s the Same with Furina. When I play a story quest, I’m trying to learn more about the character in question, not help some random band play their last performance
@mangshu21 were not saying minigames are not fun or bad, but it's all we get. it gets annoying when the community is asking for things to change and be implemented, and it falls on deaf ears. I just wish we would get a fraction of the respect and love we get from the HSR team in Genshin. Logging in for 3rd anniversary and getting a stupid looking octopus and 3 pulls is insulting.
As a player of both games I strongly disagree on HSR getting good content updates. I like the game for characters, but content is just... average at best. It's like half of any random boring genshin event each patch. And character story quests take like 20-30 minutes, most of them not even worth that time. Not to mention awul Luofu story... I love HSR characters and I have high hopes for Penacony, I'm glad that I don't have to login for more than 5 mins a day, but overall I'm utterly disappointed with the direction the game took after great release
Star Rail has a lot of QoL that was asked for Genshin for years and still not there. At this point "Thanks for your Genshin feedback. We will realise it in Star Rail" meme feels very true. Star Rail don't have f*ng "npc is busy with other quest, finish it first to continue" or Paimon, so can actually enjoy the story. Star Rail already has free 5-star weapons, free base 5-star character selector and Star Rail beginner banner gives you guaranteed 5-star character versus guaranteed Noelle from begginers banner in Genshin. Combat-based content of Genshin absolutly dead, ignored and has a pre-schooler difficulty. SR Abyss analogue will get new floors and there will be a new permanent Abyss-like mode. Resin recharge faster and overall resin system better. And, i guess, for now Star Rail is not flooded with tons of useless character with shitty, barely working or not working at all kits. Like Xinyan's skill doesn't synergise with itself. Thoma HP-scaling character with one of the lowerst base HP in the game. Amber and Qiqi exist. Traveler is trash in all forms exept dendro, which just okay. Yoimiya's second charged attack exist why. Shogun's attacks doesn't trigger Beidou burst for no reason. Dori is okay if you ignore her support kit and using her as dps. Everybody hates Mona and Ayaka's sprint, they could just make an option to turn it off. Dehya. Btw "free 5-star" Aloy doesn't even work, they gave her straight up a dysfunctional kit, that can be fix literally in two seconds. Yet they choose not to care about it.
I am a day 1 star rail player, I still haven't seen any five star weapons be it limited or free, what are you yapping about. And don't disrespect my noelle and ayaka, noelle is a gigachad maid and ayaka is my princess because she is voiced by my favourite VA: Hayami Saori
@@Sarojthao You can get free 5-star light cones from Herta store or trade for starlight, which is not exactly 'free', but still an option to get one directly. Voice actor doesn't chancge the fact that Ayaka's sprint is downgrade of normal run. It's uncofartable to use, it stuck everywhere no matter how many "fixes" they did, you need to stop to start climbing or fall down. I would choose normal run 10 times out 10 anyday. They easily could make toggle to turn it on or off in setting.
I play both and what i experienced is that star rail has so many great features that could have been included in genshin and only now they're bringing it in , atleast some of them and star rail is really rewarding while genshin is more like more immersive
but Mihoyo is testing these things in Star rail and bringing them in an even better way to Genshin layered map character selection expeditions alternative commissions and meanwhile Genshin has condensed resin and the alchemy table where you can exchange artifacts, things that don't exist in Star rail
bruh ... the star rail fans are just genshin fans. There's no "war" between communities when they both are the same people. They're just expressing their feelings towards genshins lack of rewards and not the genshin community.
well kinda but personally from everyone i know they either play one or the other and it shows with how popular genshin is and how star rail is still very popular but alot less
Well yes. But those who play just one of the game misunderstood the situation as if it's the whole HSR community that slandered Genshin's. So they shit a lot on one game thus creating this stupid comparison Don't forget the elitist from Honkai Impact are also in HSR, which despises the Genshin's community, like a lot. Can't blame them though
@@VeeradonChaisuwanhe is coping too hard dude literally judging and over thinking why HSR get rewards and have some dumb analysis why genshin doesn't get anything It's kinda hilarious how he cope and not becoz he doesn't need any gift from the game means all the players are the same
@@ouroboros6738I mean yeah the forced positivity is really annoying to deal with. Like if I say hey wouldn't it be cool if... "no we cannot ask to much" so a lot of us dipped from genshin because we disliked the community and the lack of content tailored toward us
as to his thought of what he called a toxic thought, we dont really need stellar jades, we get drowned in events and we have a bank to keep out daily energy over the cap if we dont play for a few days. Honkai star rail really just benefited from being the third game and having a lot of features that the previous two games did not have. you are seeing this down of updates to genshin that were base level features for honkai at launch. It makes me hopeful that we will see a bank for resin some day in genshin.
Also, the reason Genshin players aren't getting good things is like you said, hoyo doesn't feel like genshin players will leave if they don't. That's not a good thing 😂 It stems from the player base's hilarious reluctance to criticise anything about the game. You don't have high expectations, you don't get shit. Rewards, endgame. Genshin is devoid of those and everyone knows the reason why. I don't understand why genshin players are acting surprised 😂
Honestly screw rewards and endgame. I'm just in it for the story and world, and the quests in Fontaine were worth more than any 5 star they could've handed me. I don't care if Starrail is giving out a free Dr Ratio, but if the Penacony story ends up being good I'll probably come back.
@@redex3933 Truth be told, not a lot of us care. I see a lot of people brag about QoL and free stuff when it comes to Gacha, but I don't play primarily for that, it's the gameplay that matters to me. It's cool that it Honkai Star Rail gets what it gets, but it's not the game that I want so it doesnt matter.
And Genshin fans wonder why they get nothing... I love all of Hoyo games but people need to stand up for themselves and please stop hiding behind the story/world building arguments it isn't fair to compare a less then a year old game vs a 3+ one. Also if you think HSR is weak in that regard I guess people haven't been playing much attention especially if you connect it 2 HI3 but that also isn't fair because that game is now 7+ years old. So let's all be chill and stand up to the Genshin dev team because this is unacceptable at this point compared to the Honkai cev team that actually listens and cares for the game and fans.
All his "reason" is the most basic reason I ever heard All of his opinion about why HSR give free character is basically "Yeah I didn't know anything but I'm going to say something"
"why are star rail people making fun of G.I people?" 02:2411:16 you just showed why no one likes genshin players, nothing good can happen to another game that some genshin snob will go "AcKuuLi yOUr gaMe Is dYiNg, iT dIDn'T mAkE ONe bIllIoN a YEar". you guys don''t get it because you are part of those people, any game that people like you can find a genshin dork being mean or trolling "but that's the minority that makes more commotion" yeah just like those making jokes about genshin. 13:30 the "WE FUNDED YOU" argument is so stupid, never saw any genshin player saying thank you to fly me to the moon, GGZ or HI3, genshin people are so self centered that they don't even know mihoyo history.
I mainly focus on GI but i do play HSR as well. And seeing a game that i enjoyed less got everything i ever wanted in genshin kinda make me a little upset
@racool911 it doesn't work like that. a company cannot predict player engagement pre-release, and even if they used GI as a model, the emgagement yields would have been high, meaning they would have resembled genshin a lot. HSR was better than genshin from the get go.
Yeah, i was really surprised when he said it was on top for the first two months then Genshin took over again. All those months HSR made a lot mor money then Genshin and only Furina brought Genshin on top again because many players who played both game didn't spend on HSR this update. I guess in 1.6 it will be either switched around again or, because Dr.Ratio is free and 2.0 is coming up, both will be at the same level. From 2.0 i'm 100% sure Honkai will take the top spot again with so many hype characters to come.
Meanwhile Honkai Impact 3rd Player: Free 5 Star Sushang (if you play the Game to get the necessary currency) permanent since 6.0 or 6.1, The Same with Sirin in Version 6.9, basicly a free Archon (Honkais Version of it) as Anniversary in 6.4 and now another free "Archon" in 7.1 just for playing the Patch. 😂 2 Communitys fight each other and the one that is ignored watches the fight from the Side Line while enjoying their time with the Game. 😂
Genshin community toxic. Honka Star Rail Community Toxic. Look at Hi3 community. They're just chilling. But I guess some of them are either team genshin or star rail too. Why can't we just leave eachother's games alone lol smh
Genshin returned to be number 1 just for this month and because of Furina. But that in itself doesn’t tell the whole story because Furina’s banner, although technically good for general banner standards, it was bad for a Double Banner that included the first run of an Archon ( it could not beat Venti’s Single Banner ). Not to mention that this also coincided with a filler update in Star Rail. You’ll have to wait for the next months to actually make a judgment on that part.
Yea, that will be a huge "NAH" to subscribe to this idiot, sounds like a typical Genshin apologist. Furina banner couldn't even beat Venti rerun banner, NOW that is sad ROFL
We're also comparing Starrail's first year to Genshin's 4th year. Games tend to earn more money at the beginning when people don't have as much characters. Hoyo knows Genshin can consistently make money for years, but they aren't as sure about Starrail's future consistency.
@@racool911 Disagree. Genshin itself proves this wrong as every archon banner topped the others and the revenue of the game increased up until mid 3.0 when many started leaving because Genshin staleness began to take its toll. It depends on what the game has to offer. It’s not just about the characters. As for the rest, not really. In 4.0 Mihoyo began asking through surveys if players had ever stopped playing Genshin, and, if so, in favor of what games and for how long. And other interesting questions such as what we want in a character. Yesterday another survey dropped and here they asked how interesting we find the in-game content. Among other interesting questions. So, it’s evident that they began to notice the drop in banner sales since the Hu-Tao Yelan double Banner and probably a lack of engagement both in-game and online Which explains why they released broken characters which they would have normally nerfed to oblivion ( and that still didn’t do much ). So, it’s not so guaranteed as one may think.
@@racool911 That’s true to an extent, but Genshin shot itself in the foot, in that regard, while Honkai Star Rail hasn’t yet. In Star Rail, there is real Powercreep, and difficult content that requires well built teams and strategy. Over time, the Powercreep will slowly phase out older characters who haven’t unlocked Constellations for additional power, while new characters will be strong enough at a single copy. For players who start the game later on, this won’t be a problem, because they’ll start off getting characters that can handle that level of difficulty, and for older players, they’ll have the units to tide them over while they save to replace older units. Genshin’s lack of endgame and Powercreep creates the unique problem that there is no real value proposition for a new character, except for new players. I could log in right now and clear the Spiral Abyss 36 stars with my Raiden/Bennet/Xiangling/Sara team, provable because I just did it about four months ago when I was curious. So, other than absolutely LOVING the new character, why would I pull for anyone else? I already have 20 characters fully built that can clear anything the game has to offer, I’ve basically beaten the game. All that’s left is to do new story content, for players who like exploration and story, which is free! Genshin’s not a bad game, but its business model is flawed for the long term, I think. It’s not built to grow, it’s built to stagnate, which, considering how much it makes, it probably doesn’t NEED to grow to be insanely profitable until the game is shut down. Star Rail, though, will continue to give players a reason to get excited for new characters, because they WILL be needed to clear content.
@@evanprimeau3810 There was never any real reason to spend money on genshin other than cosmetics and because you simply lack characters. And it's the same for Star Rail, because game is just as easy. Both are just feeding on players spending addictions. Problem with Star Rail and new content for new characters is, that except releasing Swarm just to sell DHIL and Fu Xuan, they did nothing else to sell anyone. Maybe new levels of MoC will change something. Genshin doesn't need to even try to make money, people just mindlessly spend for absolutely no reason, and HSR has already proven it's the same
Regardless of the reason why HSR getting treated better, none of the reason Some of y'all gonna say has nothing to do with you, the player base getting treated like shit. So what does it matter anyway ? I love to always quote asmon with this kind of scenario, If you defend a shit game, you get a shit game.
It's not a shit game though. It's just people being upset and ignoring how much quality of life updates they've been adding over the last year because it's not the 2 big ones everyone screams about. Plus, we're literally getting a patch focused on quality of life updates next. People just don't realize how long some stuff takes to get spit out of the production pipeline.
@@amandaslough125 mate, I played this game for 3 years and of all people to lecture about QoL you pick me ? Ok here goes. No reset Cd on abyss per reset. No additional stuff to buy on the shop. No currency to exchange for standard 5 star like HSR has. No resin overcap system Like HSR has. No stamina reduce or remove if not in combat during the exploration. No skip button on the commission quest, not on the main quest sure, not on the first time quest sure, but why do I have to read all that again in a commission I've done 50 times ? No exchange-able mats for the gatherable mats in later region, If you're new into the game you literally cannot take it by your pace and have to rush everything Just to get to new region to start gathering the mats. And those mats still need 2 days to recharge. Artifact load out, artifact reduce RNG method in anyway. All of the above is not the "big 2" you're thinking of, and you're telling me for 3 years and the only QoLs they did for the game are the most basic shit and you still think they're even doing their job at all ? And no it is not hard, this is the part I do know about, Only take an example of the recent "qol" they did like artifact slot, remove requirement for weekly boss , an intern in my company can do it within a week, if not 2 or 3 days. And it took them THIS long to implementing some basic piece of shit QoL and you're praising them for it ? Oh next patch you're gonna have more QoL ? wow, outside of those fancy menu, one of those QoL is sorting artifact, sorting by tag is also one of the most basic thing you learned literally from school in coding, another one is resent your character again on the gathering instead of clicking one by one, I don't even need to explain why it is simple. Now tell me, what kind of "hard job" they're doing right now ? What kind of giant hurdle that prevent them from doing those basic qol for 3 years ? If not being lazy, not giving a fuck, or just plain incompetent, and any of the above is already bad enough. Because I know games and code, which lead me to the conclusion that this game, outside of the flashiness of the visual and the combat system they refused to improve or innovate, it has no substance.
Betrayed? lol No. Genshin community just did this to themselves. No endgane, No QoL , Bad weapon banner and when someone speak up the community just downvote them or insult to the point of death threat. So now you telling me Hoyo betrayed you? The thing that redeem genshin story is Furina, without her story and her singing this would Sumeru and Inazuma all over again.
@@RenaRubyblade I really hope this is sarcasm. There is endgame in Honkai Star rail and Impact 3rd and both also still have ongoing storylines just like Genshin, It is not a valid excuse.
We get so much jade and free wishes as HSR players. Just by joining the game and catching up to the main story right now, you can make enough free warps n jade to get you 15 to 20 4*'s, 2-3 5*'s off the standard banner and 2-3 limited 5*'s depending on how 50/50s shake out. When you make the transition from GI to HSR It's hard not to feel bitter about how stingy the impact Team are once you see just how things could have been, so clowning on them feels good. Most of these memes and vitriol are targeted at the Impact Team and specific community members who vocally defend the BDSM relationship they've developed with the Impact Team, who've led ex players to feel like their voice doesn't matter. Also saying "Star Rail players expect to get stuff for playing, meanwhile I pay to get Spit on..." is definitely toxic but not in the way you intended it to be lmao...
I play Genshin since launch, dropped 2 times and come back for Sumeru archon quest and Fontaine after, I never expect more, my expectations are always very low
I’m so glad I stopped playing genshin. It felt like I was scraping for dimes on that game as a F2P player. But in Star Rail I actually get to enjoy the game more due to better rewards and having a better chance of getting characters I wanted and playing ACTUAL endgame content which hsr devs add to almost every patch while all genshin has going for them is exploring everywhere for what? Like 2-5 primos for searching chests or doing time trials? It just gets so tedious doing stuff on that game like even getting relics on hsr is more friendly due to the self model resin on star rail. But when you get relics/artifacts on genshin EVERYTHING and I mean EVERYTHING is rng. Even their strongbox which you can choose what relic set you want is still rng based. Overall star rail feels more refreshing to play every patch due to their Qol updates every patch. I get to enjoy the endgame there rather than just playing the torturous spiral abyss every reset 🙄
Honestly after Genshin first anniversary incident I’ve learned to keep my expectations when it comes to gifts very very verrrry low less stressful In the long run
1.6 and soon to be 2.0 is going to be a huge up for hsr, as Penacony (the new area/planet) being introduced as Fontaine fades out hsr will obviously get more traction, and will probably be the same when the next nation (Natlan?) for Genshin comes out. People seen to forget that this is a big step for hsr because of the first new planet coming out making people like myself very excited and of course with winning best mobile game. Sure the devs have been being more generous but Genshin and star rail imo shouldn’t even be put up against each other in this sort of way. It reminds me of when Barbie and Oppenheimer came out, both completely different but just because they came out at the same time people put them against each other in some contest. Just because Genshin and Star Rail come from the same company doesn’t mean anything about the two games has to be the same!
Barbenheimer wasn't even put up against eachother. It was literally 2 fandoms memeing the contrast between the 2 movies that released alongside eachother, similar to what happened with Animal Crossing and Doom. What happened here was retards from both fandoms shooting eachother while the company behind the 2 games are celebrating because they still win at the end of the day.
Just a fact check here, you mentioned at 2:25 that Genshin took over HSR in revenue after a month or two but check sensor tower revenue results (Sensor tower is worlds trusted accurate data on mobile app revenue) and HSR dominated over Genshin on it's 1st full month in May all the way till October for a entire 6 months of revenue domination (not the last few days of April when it was released on 26th April as it's only a few days ofc) then Genshin took over with the previous month with it's new broken Archon character vs HSR's slow banner with a sub dps and a healer, although HSR gonna retake the throne but i guess we'll wait for the revenue results
well if people recall star rail was gonna be very stingy but people actually fought back against that and they made it better in genshin for a couple years people not only accepted mediocrity but defended it so ofc
I'm personaly happy that they're giving free Dr. Ration, because he should work really well with Topaz and she's a character that is most fun for me. I was torn between him and Ruan Mei (because she's hot), so on who's banner Xueyi that banner I'm pulling. So it worked out perfectly. One thing that is annoying is that whole shitting on genshin thing, it feel toxic to me (few memes were funny, I will admit it).
I play both and love Genshin more when it comes to story world and charcters , getting a free 5 star is a major win that helps pulling players back in , it got my attention thats for sure ! I would like a free 5 star in genshin but do i need it ? Neh. I still love genshin more and i think the L+ ratio memes are soOoOO funny so i really dont mind lolll
You don't understand, most (if not all) HSR players are also Genshin players, they're not trashing on the players, they're trying to spite Mihoyo for the poor management over at Genshin's side. And I might go so far as to say that it's deserved at this point... if the players are ungrateful then Mihoyo is that one spoiled grandkid that cried over getting an Xbox instead of a PS 5. I probably couldn't say this a couple years ago, but now I confidently can. They probably won't care tho as long as they keep making more games to make up for the lost revenue from Genshin and it's just depressing.
Genshin is much more popular cuz it attracts extremely casual consumers, both adults and children. Just like pokemon or candy crush, look at them gobbling up everything they throw wether it's good or trash.. it's no miracle they can get away with dogshxt rewards in anniv, or trash kits in almost entire 4*, dehya and traveler. Honestly it's kinda sad that the devs go in this route, genshin honestly have the most interesting yet simple core gameplays, instead we will getting more stalling bosses with 3 million HP that can go underground/flying in the abyss
I play HSR and Genshin and buy welkin and battlepass for those 2 games. To me, it's not about genshin more popular than hsr or more profitable. It's about equality, both from hoyoverse, both have solid fan base, and both have generate revenue to hoyoverse. I think hoyoverse need to look at itself, so that none of genshin player feel neglected or ignored. I didn't want this to look like genshin first anniv all over again. I don't think the world ready for another genshin player angry fiasco.
If they be angry at this... Just remember, Hoyo did once gave Honkai Impact 3rd a limited S rank Valkyrie Rita: Spina Astera for free and they be doing this for most of the time. Wayback before they did give Herrscher of Thunder and Herrscher of Reason for free and they're all S rank Characters. This is nothing new to me honestly. HAHAHAHA. Hoyo gives free stuff tho... hahahaha, it's just Genshin doesn't experience it for some reason. Anyways it would take the freezing of hell, for Hoyoverse to give GI players a 5* limited character.
They even gave Herrscher of Origin Mei for free Dea Anchora was free last patch and Senti is free this patch Not to mention Sirin, another S rank is farmable.
in my opinion why HSR is so generous with the reward is because the competition in anime TBRPG is so high, there are many competitor in this genre......and they can really rival HSR , compared to genshin, i can say that genshin are King in anime online open world genre , no other game in the same genre can even come close to it , making the player dont have a choice, even when Hoyo dont do anything the player that love anime online open world genre will still flock on to genshin, because there is no worthy rival yet... i pray that some day there is other developer that can make anime online open world game that can rival genshin domination.
as someone who plays both genshin and honkai star rail and end game in both, i see this as an absolute win XD. Let the genshin only players rage who knows we may actually get a free standard character for the outrage i've been wanting a free mona cause i been playing genshin since 1.4 and still dont have her XD.
@@touvampire #teammonaless 😭 its like she likes certain people's accounts and not ours who doesn't have her. I see some people getting 4,5,6,7 monas like huh??
I haven't played genshin for a long while. But it still stings that Star Rail, a game that has comes out for 5 or 6 months (I could be wrong), has given their players more generous rewards for their players. While Gendhin, a game that's around for 3 years now, is kind of left in the dust. This is just for the 1.6 patch that they've given us a free limited 5 star. While genshin has none of that. Let's just hope (cope) that things would be better for genshin. 😔✊
Ngl this video reeks of straight copium thh lmao. "I don't want a free 5 star" Are you serious bruh???? Cmon dude, that whole take was cringe. That attitude is exactly why the Genshin community barely gets pennies, because so many people in this community unironically BELIEVE they don't deserve shit. It's just sad.
That argument about not giving rewards was cope if I ever heard cope. Like one game community needs to be treated right and has standards and that's bad? And Genshin is allowed to treat people like shit because they're addicted already and have no standards? Just a side note tho the 2 teams are clearly different if one succeeded it gets proped up not the other. Like genshin ain't giving you anything for star rail winning and if zzz flops they're going to give more attention to their other games.Yeah a lot of people from star rail came from the genshin community just telling them things like lack of endgame wasn't a problem and rewards are fine so we shouldn't ask for more whilst the dev team ignored us so to finally get the treatment that we asked for feels great and we obviously gonna shit on the people who weren't giving it to us
Like you the type of person that annoyed the hell out of us during our play. Like you wouldn't want a free 5 star what? Why that's the equivalent of like $300?
The dude's cope is so funny 😂 Not only is the devs of Genshin so stingy with rewards and freebies, they even tried to sell a bundle on their anniversary 😂 Genshin devs treat their player base like trash but there are still people like this guy defending them 😂
@redex3933 yes and no... there are indeed 2 different teams however for the Honkai team at least idk about Genshin actually has almost full control so they tend to listen better not to mention no matter how much people deny it the company/CEO has a strong Honkai bias and trends to treat the game a bit better.
Imo its the right approach, shouting at genshin now should increase the possibility of them doing this kinda stuff aswell (that is if they will listen for once)
Yeah, I think the communities are very split too. Most people only have time for one of these games, so they pick one. I tried Genshin but quit in Liyue. I play HSR and RPG's, plus work and life so I'm a busy gamer lol. Most games I play, I pay. Plus, an RPG fan so I don't play HSR for free shit, like you insinuated. People should play what they enjoy and feel they're being respected as players/consumers. So, it would be good for Genshin to get a 5-star Character select for anniversary's or something, as well as more QoL and content. That player base is very devoted and Mihoyo makes billions, so the community should get thrown a bone, they can afford it. See? Not bashing anybody. It's not too difficult.
Yeah it's not about paying us to stay it's about us getting respect and appreciation. We weren't going to quit just because we lost a 50/50 but it's a really good gesture to give us a ratio for winning the awards. Also I heard some people saying that he isn't because of the awards but as someone who was paying attention to leaks he definitely was. Like that was last second decision no one was expecting which can only be explained by the awards. If they had some master plan we would have been aware by leaks in advance
Yeah it's not about paying us to stay it's about us getting respect and appreciation. We weren't going to quit just because we lost a 50/50 but it's a really good gesture to give us a ratio for winning the awards. Also I heard some people saying that he isn't because of the awards but as someone who was paying attention to leaks he definitely was. Like that was last second decision no one was expecting which can only be explained by the awards. If they had some master plan we would have been aware by leaks in advance
13:30 Real talk the amount of money HSR when released till now earn was more than genshin impact except for the furina patch , genshin earn a bunch of money at the beginning of its life span was because of marketing and mid pandemic and no gacha was like it and there was no competition now it’s pretty much the other way around there using HSR money to improve genshin ever since HSR ,genshin has been getting more qol changes when the last two years it was radio silence hopefully by people spending money on HSR it will contribute HSR to being a better game than Genshin in the future with future content/gamemode for us to use characters that we got instead of running around two shotting slime or repeating spiral abyss for the 23th time the main reason I still play Genshin is the story and explore the area once and never coming back once 100% I don’t remember the last time I went to dragonspine or chasm think it’s need to be here hanging I don’t feel like pulling for characters because there nowhere to use em Ps auto play is a godsend in busy people lives I can work and do other things while having HSR farming for me while endgame content I can manual it people mad about auto play when it’s just one of the many option to use or not use I love both game but when it come to spending extra money I have it will probably go to HSR Ik same company but hopefully they see HSR team earn more and give the HSR dev the more creative freedom to do what there doing now
I don't think you understand that genshin impact is a game revolved around exploration the story and the lore Honkai star rail on the other hand is making more effort on endgame and gameplay These two games are completely different and what would be the point of genshin giving us a free limited 5 star character if there's only one place where you can use them (Spiral Abyss) nothing
@@silverX3870 and I don’t u realize they are a billion dollar company that can provide both story and lore while implementing harder content for the hardcore side of the player base instead of alienate one side of the community Exploration mean little after u have explored for all the chest the area cause there no incentive to go back to past area unless u need the region exclusive material For example chasm dragonspine enkonomiya even some the older regions I rarely go there cause there nothing for there I spend most of the time in Fontaine The defense of oh it’s just a game about story and lore and exploration It’s kind of narrow minded when what’s make the game fun in the beginning is combat going around exploring but in the endgame both exploration and combat are limited so you have to wait potentially five months or more to move on in the story people who are new are having a blast with all the content but if you have been keeping up with the game since day one, you have probably explored most of the map you haven’t chances are you were putting it off for later and some people can’t explore all of it because they’re busy in their lives so they could only play a little bit a day
@@silverX3870you could have one which helps with exploration. I mean with that logic why ever pull for a 5 star. Like it can't be 5 star animations because you don't want a free 5 star and they'd have that. I shall call this what is! Massive Copium
correction, honkai star rail was the bread winner since its release. Genshin went above it in revenue only 1 time since its release and it took a filler patch from star rail and a literal archon from genshin.
I mean, you said it yourself. Genshin is more popular, Genshin is the shop getting plenty of customers. They don't need to run any promotional deals because everyone is already a customer. Star Rail is open for business, but they aren't as popular so they run this and that promotion to attract more customers.
True, there's lots of valid reasons for this... But people on twitter just be going crazy, L Ratio Genshin Yh fun to watch ppl use any excuse to bash genshin even though HSR is literally it's sibling game 🤷🏻
Using the game’s revenue as an excuse for them to be more stingy to you is INSANE😭 I can’t wait for you kiddos to grow up so politicians can extrort your ass in the real world LMAO!!!
@@ronron_gamingSure they care players, but are they "really" care? Not really. Among the two 5star in this patch, we both know who the fandom really want. They care players when money is not involved, otherwise we will be feasting on free ruan mei. Both of them are still "Cash grab". One is a little better "Cash grab" to lure players while the other is just plain cash grab.
Before I got a laptop (This year) I was wishing to play HSR and Genshin. When I got a laptop I download Hsr 1st immediately before Genshin, when I played it I actually have a lot of fun farming and having a great time playing even tho its still new it makes feel like I wanna play it everyday the problem is the material collecting ik its easy but it doesnt give a lot most of the time soo I need to spend all my trailblaze power. Then I download Genshin recently and I had fun ofc but the problem is that I dont want to play the world quest, soo I can play with someone but my world is still closed for a while because I need to finish all of them soo my friend could play in my world which makes it kinda annoying. (Thats the problem I ecounter soo far)
Its less of hate for the game and more of hate for the community and the devs cause both are toxic. And plus like you said it is the same team so why can’t they do the same for genshin. Also to address your point that you think honkai doesn’t have much content, there are 5 endgame modes now plus 10 new main story missions
13:28 For the people who say this kind of things, i like to remind them that Genshin came out as good as it is because of the money Honkai Impact 3rd gathered for them. Also, that game was the first one to give free S rankers (S rank in HI3 = five star in GI and HSR), so you lied when you said this was "never done in history".
Genshits new cope: Oh we have “exploration” so we have more primo gems. Like wtf? Don’t you know the meaning of “reward”? You guys really like to grind your head out to get 5 primogems from top of the mountain just to make it enough to get 160 to do one pull? Oh we have fkin “exploration”. IT’S THE FUCKING PART OF THE GAME NOT FKIN REWARD.
HSR is really good, the only thing I don't like is the turn based combat system, and the story doesn't draw you in like genshin does. but they're doing other things better like rewards, and endgame content
Love the development overall with games as a whole, hoyoverse is a new developer, everyone seems to forget that during all the fighting that goes on lol
At the beginning, the genshin story was very bad. HSR story is already much better than genshin when it came out and of course it will get even better.
The main reason we are not getting a free 5-star in Genshin: LEAKERS! THEY SABOTAGED GENSHIN TO MAKE SURE THE GAME DID NOT GET ANY AWARDS FROM 2023 TGA!
It's funny because they love to bash on Genshin but at the end of the day that's the game everyone goes back to. But yeah, Hoyo was really smart with theese two games. It's so not a coincidence that 4.2 was Genshin's biggest pach while 1.5 was HSR lowest. Now we're gonna gave a fun but filler parch while they have a big one. IT'S THE SAME COMPANY GUYS THEY KNOW WHAT THEY ARE DOING. But yeah congrats Star Rail, this kinda made wish I liked HSR, and I might give it a chance again (or just download it, get Ratio, refuse to elaborate and leave), but I also never got the feel that I just couldn't get what I wanted in Genshin so 🤷🏻♀️
Idk I went back to genshin once, experienced the aranara quest then vowed to never return. I think I would go back if they made it so you could journey to all areas in the map without a quest being in the way. Maybe it's changed since that but I remember I only did that quest because it had an area I wanted to explore locked behind it
@@thatokperson Of that's your worry than you can 100% come back. Yes in Sumeru's desert there are areas only available through quests, but in Fontaine you're free to explore, and if you trigger quest that will interfere with important ones they give you the option to refuse it. Now is honestly one of the best time to return! ☺️
Regarding Aloy, because Sony owns Horizon she was released for about a month or two on PlayStation before the PC and phone versions of the game, but was only available for a short time. As for why they haven't released her constellations, I have no idea, they do have names and properties assigned to them along with a material that doesn't exist in the game. I don't know why they didn't just release her through one of those 7 day events, login the first day to get Aloy and her weapon, and over the next 6 days you get her constellations and weapon rank up materials, but they didn't do that either. Personally, I think that Sony might have cancelled an event they had planned for her after the anniversary backlash, as Aloy was released at around the same time, a lot of people review bombed Genshin, along with other completely unrelated games, like Fate/Grand Order and Raid Shadow Legend, which if anything may have interfered with Genshin's future chances of collaborating with other games, of course another reason would be the Descender lore. I used to play Brown Dust a number of years back, now it's called Brave Nine, but if I remember correctly, on it's first anniversary they gave away a 4* and 5* selection for each class, there are four classes in the game, plus at least 1 Legendary character (though it may have been 2), which is basically like an Archon or a 6* character, so it was around 9 to 10 characters, and the players got to pick who they wanted. Brave Nine also had an option to pick which 5* and 4* characters would receive rate up, and while it would take awhile before you would receive your guaranteed character, and there was no 50/50 option, the drop rates were generally pretty good.
i think they got dr ratio for free prob cuz a lot of hi3 devs also woek on hsr and like hi3 is really nice to the players too nand u can see that da weis favourite child is hi3 and then hsr is enjoying the fact that theyre also a honkai a game
HSR is a Honkai game afterall, Honkai impact 3rd may as well have gifted out all of their characters for free, made them grindable or sold them off in the battlepass.
I mean the reality is Genshin has the worst rewards given to its player base are the worst in any Gatcha I have ever seen. I play both games but the fact it they can't ever reward us for anything in Genshin.
6:52 they do that because so called geshin stans are known for their behaviour and aggregation toward others and some people like to shit on them when they get L+Ratioed on.
A lot of the people making memes and laughing are people who play both games. Because the people who play both games, recognize the difference in appreciate between the two teams of developers. Yes, they are the same company, but they are two different teams making the games. The memes are highlighting a difference in treatment, but it's not a matter of resources, GI has more money to work with then HSR does, as it makes more money than HSR, however, despite making less money HSR's dev team appreciates their players more, than GI appreciates their players.
The reason it hurts so much, is because GI players have been saying for YEARS that they don't feel appreciated or loved by the development team. It seems to be the case that we ask for changes in Genshin, and never get them, but people ask for changes in HSR and they get them AND MORE. However we have to cope instead of just admitting that the HSR team just gives a shit about it's players more than GI. =(
The world quests and the story quesnt on their own are much better than star rail. I loved the penacony reveal but it seems like that doesn't even matter. It looks amazing but nope, we gotta shit on something else instead of talking about the hsr devs and their ability to build these amazing fantasy worlds and the characters.. I dont like overwatch 2 anymore as i used to so i dont play and don't engage in any conversations. Not hard to do. Grow up
what I am saying is, it's not HSR players making memes, it's people who play Genshin Impact, who are making the memes. It's just a way for Genshin Impact players to vent their frustrations. Nothing wrong with that, and I think we Genshin Players deserve to be able to be upset about how much HSR loves it's players, but GI doesn't seem to love us....@@mangshu21
Exactly there is one commentor call livtha who won't shut up shitting on hsr saying its a rip off. Um buddy Honkai existed longer than genshin since this goes back to hi3 and older games. Both games are different in different world and tbh the turn base makes feel like final fantasy and a few other games. All in all people need to grow up@@mangshu21
Genshin's lead producer is Mhy's CEO while HSR's lead producer is someone else it's easy to tell which game is a dumping ground for testing player's patience and which one actually has to perform well
I have gotten far more stellar jade is Star Rail than in Genshin. The lack of primogems for f2p players is the main reason I stopped playing and Star Rail just hands out premium currency like candy in top of the log-in tickets
Many HSR player are also actuelle or ex genshin player😂there are mad because HSR at his release got criticism about that the game will not succeed by some genshin community. So since that the "two community" free fire each other.
it is because of people like u who are afraid to disappoint genhin community for positive critisim and then cry toxicity when others games give players hat they want.
In all honesty I don't care. I play both and am satisfied with both and I'll take a free five star when I can. The way I see it, people are only complaining now that it's happened. And, to be fair, you do a hell of a lot more with Genshin characters than Star Rail characters. So, I will just happily play with this new character who I will nickname Dr L+Ratio, a totally original joke that I am sure nobody has already come up with
The only reason this is happening is bcoz people who play HSR also play Genshin, they usually arent different people. So its not that they are trolling genshin players but the genshin devs and genshin diehards. I myself play both but yeah HSR devs are way better at rewarding their players whereas Genshin has a good story.
i really think its about how the communities handle things, and damn... 1st month of genshin and peoples already trashed out zhongli until 2~3 buffs are maded in about 3 months
I did see a lot of "free just to retain players or game dead" from many GI players, they forget that HSR playerbase will never really die out in a way as long as HI exists, all that "HI part 1 is finished, Hsr is kind of a sequel to us", will always have HI veterans playing hsr, not to mention Hsr's own dedicated playerbase. Game is honestly performing a lot better than both HI and GI when they launched respectively, it was a different time but it is what it is. "Lore is not at that lvl yet", sure but I see what Hsr is cooking with SU lore, the world building & I'll watch them cook, it's going to be on par with GI, HI(hopefully but not sure). Infinite possibilities when universe is the limit xd.
idk it just says display driver has stopped working then another pop up says "Star rail cannot run looking for solutions" then it just takes me back to the launcher@@talksalot7562
I don’t think it’s about free stuff anymore. Genshin delivered what the Anime community has always longed for and they knew how bad people would be addicted to the game. They know that people will still play because people have invested way too much money and time in this game to let it fail.
Genshin was like the abusive relationship that we eventually left until we met Star Rail. Genshin's was doom ever since... The first anniversary. Still have PTSD from that.
STAR RAIL KEEPS ON WINNING!!!!! Honkai games are truly HoYo's favorite children! Genshin would never! W + Ratio + Optimizations + New Content + QOL + Free Limited 5 Star = PEAK GACHA!!!! I do genuinely feel bad for the Genshin players, i was one of them, i played from 1.1 to 2.5, i love the characters, world, lore, etc. of Genshin so it is sad to see. I should have enough to do one or two 10 pulls on Ruan Mei's banner to see if i get lucky and after that i should have a guaranteed Black Swan by the end of Black Swan's banner! Good Luck on everyone's pulls!!!!
If you've played Genshin you should know that life isn't fair. If it was none of us would own Qiqi. 😆EDIT: Okay, for the record I have a C4 Qiqi level 81 with 2392 ATK talents 6/8/9. Not hating on Qiqi since I built her for fun, but I am pointing out that we don't always get what we want.
I am at ar 57 and still don't have qiqi and red haired pyro claymore character(forgot his name)
Bro hit us with the deep quote fr 😓
My husband who won't come home...
Wait who said that
@@Biimowwhat do you mean by that? 🤨
....i never said anything.....
In my own experience, I've gotten so much more stellar Jades in HSR than I did primogems in Genshin
I was genuinely wondering if I was hallucinating this but it's nice to know others have been feeling it too
this is because in Star rail there is no explanation and fighting is the only thing you can do in the game that is why characters are more necessary
in Genshin you can do 90% of the game with the characters that the game gives you
in Star rail this couldn't be further from the truth
@@Keiki-kun well you're not wrong
@@Keiki-kunpeople also want to play the fighting in Genshin and they don't like they mario party stuff it's why they quit and went to star rail. A lot of people don't care about the mini games
we get more weekly income for jades
I've loved Genshin to bits ever since it came out, but trying HSR made me so resentful towards how Genshin devs handle their cash cow... We've been asking for certain QoL's since 1.1 and we still have to see majority of them, when it takes a patch or two to implement them in HSR. It feels like I, as a fan who has been filling out surveys for years, am totally ignored.The little Genshin gives us for anniversaries and Lantern Rite makes me feel unappreciated. For the most part, the story still delivers, new areas are fun to explore (although I wish they eased up on the locations locked behind unvoiced questlines with unskippable dialogues), but I'm so tired of being ignored when HSR delivers almost everything their playerbase asks for. Free 5* is just a cherry on top.
true, i recently quit genshin because im just so burnt out of the game but still, considering i have been an active player since launch, it is sad how genshin devs choose to use their resources, it really have me questioning where all that revenue went? considering monthly, they make MILLIONS. them not able to give constant qol update, more enjoyable quality content, actual gifts for the players is just crazy at this point.
And what makes things worse if the HSR fandom is so toxic that they say Genshin player don’t deserve anything, forgetting that most HSR players either play both Genshin and HSR or just straight up left genshin for HSR.
@@surajvinod1567no that’s just the minority….
@@surajvinod1567 it's more like throwing shade on hoyo devs.
@@teknologidunia9104 Their money goes to Honkai their favorite child.
When i started Genshin impact 2.0 it was magical and wonderful. I wanted to express my feelings through feedback and voice my opinions to things that could improve this wonderful game. But when each time a new patch dropped, it felt like it my voice fell on deaf ears. The more years that past new things came up, wonderful characters and worlds, but with that more problems that needed to be brought attention.
Compared to HSR when i started I had the same wonderful feelings and saw the fantastic worlds. I filled the survey and brought my thoughts they could improve and also show my appreciation. This time instead of feeling ignored, HSR showed their appreciation and showed us what they've been working on as a solution for QoL. Not even a year has past and HSR has brought up more QoL that i was able to experience with genshin impact. More resin, overflow resin cap, more permanent content, replay events, autoclear stages I'm already strong enough, multiple clear reward for paying more power (power is like resin) and more :D
It felt food playing again for me. I think this conversations brings up more than getting 5* but also acknowledging the playerbase and their feedback.
Honkai team respects their players.
Genshin team shits on their players, and they eat that wholeheartedly and defends them for it 😂
I'm pretty sure the success started at Honkai Impact 3rd since used it's funds to make Genshin and HI3 was the top game and was ahead of its time. Also Genshin got the Covid Boost.
Yeah HI3 was a massive level of success even if Genshin had a far bigger success. Like even if Genshin flopped they could easily have afforded 10 other gachas with HI3 profits
@@thatokperson Yeah like Honkai impact for a mobile game was so ahead at its time back on 2016. I barely even remember any mobile game that came close to Honkai impact's quality.
this guy is bad at reviewing and alot of what he said doesnt make sense
@@justsomeguyworkingatmcdona6817 ya but they fk cancel are anniversary for global when we get the bunny in 2021 but Chinese players get butt hunt for not getting so they go attack miHoYo company when they are stupid for play Chinese servers also when they cancel the anniversary how much did global fk get 400 or 500 if remember correctly and Chinese players get fk 3000 gem for not get the bunny skin.
After that happens miHoYo not listening to global players no more but listening to Chinese players and get use the mid finger on gen anniversary so fk them never play any Chinese game only Japan or Korea.
@xiles8963 which guy😂
Im just going to say that in terms of revenue (atleast from Sensor Tower), Genshin had been behind star rail up until October. During November, due to Furina, Genshin almost tripled Star Rail's revenue as November is also a dead month for Star Rail (15 days of november was a banner that people started to not pull due to HSR drip marketing characters that will come out on December [and its an OP one at that] resulting to major backlash for the sales of November going until half of December)
Oh boy I can’t wait until 1.6 drops lol.
As an ex-genshin player, HSR makes me feel respected especially when it comes to the use of my time. For one, talents aren't locked behind literally certain days of the week or FOMO on events. We get a free 5* from standard banner of our choosing and get this... we actually get *good* content updates, not meaningless side story quests that take 17 hours.
You're definitely wrong about HSR having to feed us jades due to lack of open world exploration. We do have some exploration, weekly SU jades, swarm completion, story quests, not to mention more jade income from MOC. There is currently way more content per week to complete in HSR than in genshin.
Exactly. Just look at Jinglius companion quest compared to furinas, a literal archon. It’s so much better how the quest actually deals with the character and not about some random npc who the character just coincides with. Also I’d argue the exploration is better in Star rail. There’s less chests to find but each one is more rewarding than genshin. The weakest chests in Star rail give 5 jades while the common chest in genshin only gives one primogem, and they’re litttered everywhere on the map
@@ronreed4050 Furina quest is better lol. She is an adult who doesn't need to be babied and shemoved on because that's what humans do. The jing liu quest is good yes but most of the quests are beyond lacklustre and just mediocre. I had more fun doing the klee mini game lmao. This random npc argument is an illiterate argument because without side characters there is no story. Its that simple.
@@mangshu21 that’s the thing. I get npcs are needed for the story, but that don’t mean the entire story needs to be about them. Kazuha is one of my favorite characters in the game yet his story quest isn’t even about him. Sure it brings up his clans past but I’m trying to learn more about him, not help a possessed sword find peace. That’s one reason why I wish his actual lore wasn’t tied to a limited event that I missed. It’s the Same with Furina. When I play a story quest, I’m trying to learn more about the character in question, not help some random band play their last performance
@mangshu21 were not saying minigames are not fun or bad, but it's all we get. it gets annoying when the community is asking for things to change and be implemented, and it falls on deaf ears. I just wish we would get a fraction of the respect and love we get from the HSR team in Genshin. Logging in for 3rd anniversary and getting a stupid looking octopus and 3 pulls is insulting.
As a player of both games I strongly disagree on HSR getting good content updates. I like the game for characters, but content is just... average at best. It's like half of any random boring genshin event each patch. And character story quests take like 20-30 minutes, most of them not even worth that time. Not to mention awul Luofu story... I love HSR characters and I have high hopes for Penacony, I'm glad that I don't have to login for more than 5 mins a day, but overall I'm utterly disappointed with the direction the game took after great release
Star Rail has a lot of QoL that was asked for Genshin for years and still not there. At this point "Thanks for your Genshin feedback. We will realise it in Star Rail" meme feels very true. Star Rail don't have f*ng "npc is busy with other quest, finish it first to continue" or Paimon, so can actually enjoy the story.
Star Rail already has free 5-star weapons, free base 5-star character selector and Star Rail beginner banner gives you guaranteed 5-star character versus guaranteed Noelle from begginers banner in Genshin.
Combat-based content of Genshin absolutly dead, ignored and has a pre-schooler difficulty. SR Abyss analogue will get new floors and there will be a new permanent Abyss-like mode.
Resin recharge faster and overall resin system better.
And, i guess, for now Star Rail is not flooded with tons of useless character with shitty, barely working or not working at all kits. Like Xinyan's skill doesn't synergise with itself. Thoma HP-scaling character with one of the lowerst base HP in the game. Amber and Qiqi exist. Traveler is trash in all forms exept dendro, which just okay. Yoimiya's second charged attack exist why. Shogun's attacks doesn't trigger Beidou burst for no reason. Dori is okay if you ignore her support kit and using her as dps. Everybody hates Mona and Ayaka's sprint, they could just make an option to turn it off. Dehya.
Btw "free 5-star" Aloy doesn't even work, they gave her straight up a dysfunctional kit, that can be fix literally in two seconds. Yet they choose not to care about it.
I am a day 1 star rail player, I still haven't seen any five star weapons be it limited or free, what are you yapping about.
And don't disrespect my noelle and ayaka, noelle is a gigachad maid and ayaka is my princess because she is voiced by my favourite VA: Hayami Saori
@@Sarojthao You can get free 5-star light cones from Herta store or trade for starlight, which is not exactly 'free', but still an option to get one directly.
Voice actor doesn't chancge the fact that Ayaka's sprint is downgrade of normal run. It's uncofartable to use, it stuck everywhere no matter how many "fixes" they did, you need to stop to start climbing or fall down. I would choose normal run 10 times out 10 anyday. They easily could make toggle to turn it on or off in setting.
@@Sarojthaohe probably about event light cones with max potential, and herta' shop with 5* light cones (I using one for Jingliu)
@@Sarojthao Noelle's boring as fuck and is a huge turn off for new players
I play both and what i experienced is that star rail has so many great features that could have been included in genshin and only now they're bringing it in , atleast some of them and star rail is really rewarding while genshin is more like more immersive
but Mihoyo is testing these things in Star rail and bringing them in an even better way to Genshin
layered map
character selection
expeditions
alternative commissions
and meanwhile Genshin has condensed resin and the alchemy table where you can exchange artifacts, things that don't exist in Star rail
@@Keiki-kunrelic crafting is in star rail
@@Keiki-kun overcapped energy exists , free 10 pull every patch exists . Why test the good stuff instead of just bringing it in
@@yuutashuichi4420 extra stamina exists because only with it can you get items
10 pull every version exists because there is no exploitation
@@fortex900 but can you change weekly boss items? exchange artifacts?
the devs trying to prove what's to be the TRUE *MiHoyo* instead Hoyoverse.
bruh ... the star rail fans are just genshin fans. There's no "war" between communities when they both are the same people. They're just expressing their feelings towards genshins lack of rewards and not the genshin community.
I agree, I think the poster is actually thinking way too deep for this
well kinda but personally from everyone i know they either play one or the other and it shows with how popular genshin is and how star rail is still very popular but alot less
Well yes. But those who play just one of the game misunderstood the situation as if it's the whole HSR community that slandered Genshin's. So they shit a lot on one game thus creating this stupid comparison
Don't forget the elitist from Honkai Impact are also in HSR, which despises the Genshin's community, like a lot. Can't blame them though
@@VeeradonChaisuwanhe is coping too hard dude literally judging and over thinking why HSR get rewards and have some dumb analysis why genshin doesn't get anything
It's kinda hilarious how he cope and not becoz he doesn't need any gift from the game means all the players are the same
@@ouroboros6738I mean yeah the forced positivity is really annoying to deal with. Like if I say hey wouldn't it be cool if... "no we cannot ask to much" so a lot of us dipped from genshin because we disliked the community and the lack of content tailored toward us
as to his thought of what he called a toxic thought, we dont really need stellar jades, we get drowned in events and we have a bank to keep out daily energy over the cap if we dont play for a few days. Honkai star rail really just benefited from being the third game and having a lot of features that the previous two games did not have. you are seeing this down of updates to genshin that were base level features for honkai at launch. It makes me hopeful that we will see a bank for resin some day in genshin.
Also, the reason Genshin players aren't getting good things is like you said, hoyo doesn't feel like genshin players will leave if they don't. That's not a good thing 😂 It stems from the player base's hilarious reluctance to criticise anything about the game. You don't have high expectations, you don't get shit. Rewards, endgame. Genshin is devoid of those and everyone knows the reason why. I don't understand why genshin players are acting surprised 😂
Maybe they were surprised because both games are equally popular, but Genshin did it longer and were not doing fine since then...
Honestly screw rewards and endgame. I'm just in it for the story and world, and the quests in Fontaine were worth more than any 5 star they could've handed me.
I don't care if Starrail is giving out a free Dr Ratio, but if the Penacony story ends up being good I'll probably come back.
@@racool911 You're the reason why the rewards are void lmao.
@@redex3933 Truth be told, not a lot of us care. I see a lot of people brag about QoL and free stuff when it comes to Gacha, but I don't play primarily for that, it's the gameplay that matters to me. It's cool that it Honkai Star Rail gets what it gets, but it's not the game that I want so it doesnt matter.
And Genshin fans wonder why they get nothing... I love all of Hoyo games but people need to stand up for themselves and please stop hiding behind the story/world building arguments it isn't fair to compare a less then a year old game vs a 3+ one. Also if you think HSR is weak in that regard I guess people haven't been playing much attention especially if you connect it 2 HI3 but that also isn't fair because that game is now 7+ years old. So let's all be chill and stand up to the Genshin dev team because this is unacceptable at this point compared to the Honkai cev team that actually listens and cares for the game and fans.
All his "reason" is the most basic reason I ever heard
All of his opinion about why HSR give free character is basically "Yeah I didn't know anything but I'm going to say something"
Blud got a degree in Yapping
"why are star rail people making fun of G.I people?" 02:24 11:16 you just showed why no one likes genshin players, nothing good can happen to another game that some genshin snob will go "AcKuuLi yOUr gaMe Is dYiNg, iT dIDn'T mAkE ONe bIllIoN a YEar". you guys don''t get it because you are part of those people, any game that people like you can find a genshin dork being mean or trolling "but that's the minority that makes more commotion" yeah just like those making jokes about genshin. 13:30 the "WE FUNDED YOU" argument is so stupid, never saw any genshin player saying thank you to fly me to the moon, GGZ or HI3, genshin people are so self centered that they don't even know mihoyo history.
If there's one thing that can piss off the genshin community, it's depriving them of their precious pixels.
- a genshin fanatic
I mainly focus on GI but i do play HSR as well. And seeing a game that i enjoyed less got everything i ever wanted in genshin kinda make me a little upset
It's because you enjoy it less that star rail gets those improvements. They gotta balance things out
@racool911 it doesn't work like that. a company cannot predict player engagement pre-release, and even if they used GI as a model, the emgagement yields would have been high, meaning they would have resembled genshin a lot. HSR was better than genshin from the get go.
@ 2:07 From what I've watched from other UA-camrs, HSR Revenue has beaten Genshin in all their patches except for the Furina patch
Yeah, i was really surprised when he said it was on top for the first two months then Genshin took over again. All those months HSR made a lot mor money then Genshin and only Furina brought Genshin on top again because many players who played both game didn't spend on HSR this update. I guess in 1.6 it will be either switched around again or, because Dr.Ratio is free and 2.0 is coming up, both will be at the same level. From 2.0 i'm 100% sure Honkai will take the top spot again with so many hype characters to come.
Yup it absolutely has
Meanwhile Honkai Impact 3rd Player: Free 5 Star Sushang (if you play the Game to get the necessary currency) permanent since 6.0 or 6.1, The Same with Sirin in Version 6.9, basicly a free Archon (Honkais Version of it) as Anniversary in 6.4 and now another free "Archon" in 7.1 just for playing the Patch. 😂
2 Communitys fight each other and the one that is ignored watches the fight from the Side Line while enjoying their time with the Game. 😂
Genshin community toxic.
Honka Star Rail Community Toxic.
Look at Hi3 community. They're just chilling. But I guess some of them are either team genshin or star rail too.
Why can't we just leave eachother's games alone lol smh
Genshin returned to be number 1 just for this month and because of Furina.
But that in itself doesn’t tell the whole story because Furina’s banner, although technically good for general banner standards, it was bad for a Double Banner that included the first run of an Archon ( it could not beat Venti’s Single Banner ).
Not to mention that this also coincided with a filler update in Star Rail. You’ll have to wait for the next months to actually make a judgment on that part.
Yea, that will be a huge "NAH" to subscribe to this idiot, sounds like a typical Genshin apologist. Furina banner couldn't even beat Venti rerun banner, NOW that is sad ROFL
We're also comparing Starrail's first year to Genshin's 4th year. Games tend to earn more money at the beginning when people don't have as much characters.
Hoyo knows Genshin can consistently make money for years, but they aren't as sure about Starrail's future consistency.
@@racool911
Disagree. Genshin itself proves this wrong as every archon banner topped the others and the revenue of the game increased up until mid 3.0 when many started leaving because Genshin staleness began to take its toll.
It depends on what the game has to offer. It’s not just about the characters.
As for the rest, not really. In 4.0 Mihoyo began asking through surveys if players had ever stopped playing Genshin, and, if so, in favor of what games and for how long. And other interesting questions such as what we want in a character.
Yesterday another survey dropped and here they asked how interesting we find the in-game content. Among other interesting questions.
So, it’s evident that they began to notice the drop in banner sales since the Hu-Tao Yelan double Banner and probably a lack of engagement both in-game and online
Which explains why they released broken characters which they would have normally nerfed to oblivion ( and that still didn’t do much ).
So, it’s not so guaranteed as one may think.
@@racool911 That’s true to an extent, but Genshin shot itself in the foot, in that regard, while Honkai Star Rail hasn’t yet. In Star Rail, there is real Powercreep, and difficult content that requires well built teams and strategy. Over time, the Powercreep will slowly phase out older characters who haven’t unlocked Constellations for additional power, while new characters will be strong enough at a single copy. For players who start the game later on, this won’t be a problem, because they’ll start off getting characters that can handle that level of difficulty, and for older players, they’ll have the units to tide them over while they save to replace older units.
Genshin’s lack of endgame and Powercreep creates the unique problem that there is no real value proposition for a new character, except for new players. I could log in right now and clear the Spiral Abyss 36 stars with my Raiden/Bennet/Xiangling/Sara team, provable because I just did it about four months ago when I was curious. So, other than absolutely LOVING the new character, why would I pull for anyone else? I already have 20 characters fully built that can clear anything the game has to offer, I’ve basically beaten the game. All that’s left is to do new story content, for players who like exploration and story, which is free!
Genshin’s not a bad game, but its business model is flawed for the long term, I think. It’s not built to grow, it’s built to stagnate, which, considering how much it makes, it probably doesn’t NEED to grow to be insanely profitable until the game is shut down. Star Rail, though, will continue to give players a reason to get excited for new characters, because they WILL be needed to clear content.
@@evanprimeau3810 There was never any real reason to spend money on genshin other than cosmetics and because you simply lack characters. And it's the same for Star Rail, because game is just as easy. Both are just feeding on players spending addictions. Problem with Star Rail and new content for new characters is, that except releasing Swarm just to sell DHIL and Fu Xuan, they did nothing else to sell anyone. Maybe new levels of MoC will change something. Genshin doesn't need to even try to make money, people just mindlessly spend for absolutely no reason, and HSR has already proven it's the same
Regardless of the reason why HSR getting treated better, none of the reason Some of y'all gonna say has nothing to do with you, the player base getting treated like shit. So what does it matter anyway ? I love to always quote asmon with this kind of scenario, If you defend a shit game, you get a shit game.
It's not a shit game though. It's just people being upset and ignoring how much quality of life updates they've been adding over the last year because it's not the 2 big ones everyone screams about. Plus, we're literally getting a patch focused on quality of life updates next. People just don't realize how long some stuff takes to get spit out of the production pipeline.
@@amandaslough125 mate, I played this game for 3 years and of all people to lecture about QoL you pick me ? Ok here goes.
No reset Cd on abyss per reset. No additional stuff to buy on the shop. No currency to exchange for standard 5 star like HSR has. No resin overcap system Like HSR has. No stamina reduce or remove if not in combat during the exploration. No skip button on the commission quest, not on the main quest sure, not on the first time quest sure, but why do I have to read all that again in a commission I've done 50 times ? No exchange-able mats for the gatherable mats in later region, If you're new into the game you literally cannot take it by your pace and have to rush everything Just to get to new region to start gathering the mats. And those mats still need 2 days to recharge. Artifact load out, artifact reduce RNG method in anyway.
All of the above is not the "big 2" you're thinking of, and you're telling me for 3 years and the only QoLs they did for the game are the most basic shit and you still think they're even doing their job at all ? And no it is not hard, this is the part I do know about, Only take an example of the recent "qol" they did like artifact slot, remove requirement for weekly boss , an intern in my company can do it within a week, if not 2 or 3 days. And it took them THIS long to implementing some basic piece of shit QoL and you're praising them for it ? Oh next patch you're gonna have more QoL ? wow, outside of those fancy menu, one of those QoL is sorting artifact, sorting by tag is also one of the most basic thing you learned literally from school in coding, another one is resent your character again on the gathering instead of clicking one by one, I don't even need to explain why it is simple. Now tell me, what kind of "hard job" they're doing right now ? What kind of giant hurdle that prevent them from doing those basic qol for 3 years ? If not being lazy, not giving a fuck, or just plain incompetent, and any of the above is already bad enough. Because I know games and code, which lead me to the conclusion that this game, outside of the flashiness of the visual and the combat system they refused to improve or innovate, it has no substance.
@@amandaslough125"It's not a shitgame" is a pretty bold claim for someone with an empty Steam Library
What are you a stalker?@@ShinTsurugi7
@@rexlapis9 It's called an insult
Betrayed? lol No. Genshin community just did this to themselves. No endgane, No QoL , Bad weapon banner and when someone speak up the community just downvote them or insult to the point of death threat. So now you telling me Hoyo betrayed you? The thing that redeem genshin story is Furina, without her story and her singing this would Sumeru and Inazuma all over again.
But there isn't supposed to be an endgame yet, they haven't even started Natlan.
@@RenaRubyblade I really hope this is sarcasm.
There is endgame in Honkai Star rail and Impact 3rd and both also still have ongoing storylines just like Genshin, It is not a valid excuse.
@@RazielBlair What is it an excuse for?? The game didn't betray the community by not having endgame.
@@RenaRubyblade can you read?
We get so much jade and free wishes as HSR players. Just by joining the game and catching up to the main story right now, you can make enough free warps n jade to get you 15 to 20 4*'s, 2-3 5*'s off the standard banner and 2-3 limited 5*'s depending on how 50/50s shake out. When you make the transition from GI to HSR It's hard not to feel bitter about how stingy the impact Team are once you see just how things could have been, so clowning on them feels good. Most of these memes and vitriol are targeted at the Impact Team and specific community members who vocally defend the BDSM relationship they've developed with the Impact Team, who've led ex players to feel like their voice doesn't matter.
Also saying "Star Rail players expect to get stuff for playing, meanwhile I pay to get Spit on..." is definitely toxic but not in the way you intended it to be lmao...
I play Genshin since launch, dropped 2 times and come back for Sumeru archon quest and Fontaine after, I never expect more, my expectations are always very low
I’m so glad I stopped playing genshin. It felt like I was scraping for dimes on that game as a F2P player. But in Star Rail I actually get to enjoy the game more due to better rewards and having a better chance of getting characters I wanted and playing ACTUAL endgame content which hsr devs add to almost every patch while all genshin has going for them is exploring everywhere for what? Like 2-5 primos for searching chests or doing time trials? It just gets so tedious doing stuff on that game like even getting relics on hsr is more friendly due to the self model resin on star rail. But when you get relics/artifacts on genshin EVERYTHING and I mean EVERYTHING is rng. Even their strongbox which you can choose what relic set you want is still rng based. Overall star rail feels more refreshing to play every patch due to their Qol updates every patch. I get to enjoy the endgame there rather than just playing the torturous spiral abyss every reset 🙄
Honestly after Genshin first anniversary incident I’ve learned to keep my expectations when it comes to gifts very very verrrry low less stressful In the long run
hahaha i laughed at the twitter trendings 1st Word is DR. Ratio then down the 2nd is FOR FREE then 3rd is GENSHIN COULD NEVER
1.6 and soon to be 2.0 is going to be a huge up for hsr, as Penacony (the new area/planet) being introduced as Fontaine fades out hsr will obviously get more traction, and will probably be the same when the next nation (Natlan?) for Genshin comes out. People seen to forget that this is a big step for hsr because of the first new planet coming out making people like myself very excited and of course with winning best mobile game. Sure the devs have been being more generous but Genshin and star rail imo shouldn’t even be put up against each other in this sort of way. It reminds me of when Barbie and Oppenheimer came out, both completely different but just because they came out at the same time people put them against each other in some contest. Just because Genshin and Star Rail come from the same company doesn’t mean anything about the two games has to be the same!
Barbenheimer wasn't even put up against eachother. It was literally 2 fandoms memeing the contrast between the 2 movies that released alongside eachother, similar to what happened with Animal Crossing and Doom. What happened here was retards from both fandoms shooting eachother while the company behind the 2 games are celebrating because they still win at the end of the day.
Just a fact check here, you mentioned at 2:25 that Genshin took over HSR in revenue after a month or two but check sensor tower revenue results (Sensor tower is worlds trusted accurate data on mobile app revenue) and HSR dominated over Genshin on it's 1st full month in May all the way till October for a entire 6 months of revenue domination (not the last few days of April when it was released on 26th April as it's only a few days ofc) then Genshin took over with the previous month with it's new broken Archon character vs HSR's slow banner with a sub dps and a healer, although HSR gonna retake the throne but i guess we'll wait for the revenue results
well if people recall star rail was gonna be very stingy but people actually fought back against that and they made it better in genshin for a couple years people not only accepted mediocrity but defended it so ofc
WISE WORDS
GENSHIN COULD NEVER 😂😂😂😂😂😂
Twitter trending is just wild at the moment
I'm personaly happy that they're giving free Dr. Ration, because he should work really well with Topaz and she's a character that is most fun for me.
I was torn between him and Ruan Mei (because she's hot), so on who's banner Xueyi that banner I'm pulling. So it worked out perfectly.
One thing that is annoying is that whole shitting on genshin thing, it feel toxic to me (few memes were funny, I will admit it).
Good luck on getting Mei and her LC if you go for it.
I play both and love Genshin more when it comes to story world and charcters , getting a free 5 star is a major win that helps pulling players back in , it got my attention thats for sure !
I would like a free 5 star in genshin but do i need it ? Neh.
I still love genshin more and i think the L+ ratio memes are soOoOO funny so i really dont mind lolll
literally same here lol
You don't understand, most (if not all) HSR players are also Genshin players, they're not trashing on the players, they're trying to spite Mihoyo for the poor management over at Genshin's side. And I might go so far as to say that it's deserved at this point... if the players are ungrateful then Mihoyo is that one spoiled grandkid that cried over getting an Xbox instead of a PS 5. I probably couldn't say this a couple years ago, but now I confidently can. They probably won't care tho as long as they keep making more games to make up for the lost revenue from Genshin and it's just depressing.
Honestly, this is the most reasonable video I watched today in an entire day, it made my day and I'm not joking it.
Thank you :)
Genshin is much more popular cuz it attracts extremely casual consumers, both adults and children. Just like pokemon or candy crush, look at them gobbling up everything they throw wether it's good or trash.. it's no miracle they can get away with dogshxt rewards in anniv, or trash kits in almost entire 4*, dehya and traveler.
Honestly it's kinda sad that the devs go in this route, genshin honestly have the most interesting yet simple core gameplays, instead we will getting more stalling bosses with 3 million HP that can go underground/flying in the abyss
As an HSR player, all I can say is, we are eating good👌🏻
11:06 we are getting 88 f2p pulls in this 1.6 patch. It's similar or more than Genshin actually...
Hoyoverse trying to trigger Genshin fans community again !! xD
Review bomb incoming.
I play HSR and Genshin and buy welkin and battlepass for those 2 games. To me, it's not about genshin more popular than hsr or more profitable. It's about equality, both from hoyoverse, both have solid fan base, and both have generate revenue to hoyoverse. I think hoyoverse need to look at itself, so that none of genshin player feel neglected or ignored. I didn't want this to look like genshin first anniv all over again. I don't think the world ready for another genshin player angry fiasco.
8:52 To be fair, as you've said before this point... Genshin did get a free 5 star.
Aloy. The joke wrote itself years ago, and the mic dropped today.
we have a free 5 star , qiqi 😇
If they be angry at this... Just remember, Hoyo did once gave Honkai Impact 3rd a limited S rank Valkyrie Rita: Spina Astera for free and they be doing this for most of the time.
Wayback before they did give Herrscher of Thunder and Herrscher of Reason for free and they're all S rank Characters. This is nothing new to me honestly. HAHAHAHA.
Hoyo gives free stuff tho... hahahaha, it's just Genshin doesn't experience it for some reason.
Anyways it would take the freezing of hell, for Hoyoverse to give GI players a 5* limited character.
Agreed, I wasn't surprised much when I heard about hsr getting a 5 star for free. It's basically just Honkai being Honkai fr.
They even gave Herrscher of Origin Mei for free
Dea Anchora was free last patch and Senti is free this patch
Not to mention Sirin, another S rank is farmable.
@@jotamodesto I bet the angry people are those peeps who didn't play other Mihoyo games... or only plays Genshin Impact and Tears of Themis.
in my opinion why HSR is so generous with the reward is because the competition in anime TBRPG is so high, there are many competitor in this genre......and they can really rival HSR , compared to genshin, i can say that genshin are King in anime online open world genre , no other game in the same genre can even come close to it , making the player dont have a choice, even when Hoyo dont do anything the player that love anime online open world genre will still flock on to genshin, because there is no worthy rival yet... i pray that some day there is other developer that can make anime online open world game that can rival genshin domination.
as someone who plays both genshin and honkai star rail and end game in both, i see this as an absolute win XD. Let the genshin only players rage who knows we may actually get a free standard character for the outrage i've been wanting a free mona cause i been playing genshin since 1.4 and still dont have her XD.
I'm with you on that, been playing GI since beta and Day1 but no Mona, wtf.
@@touvampire #teammonaless 😭 its like she likes certain people's accounts and not ours who doesn't have her. I see some people getting 4,5,6,7 monas like huh??
@@SilverWolfEnthusiast yups, got more jean and diluc from failed 50/50's.
Should we tell them that honkai impact 3rd has been giving out free S Ranks (5 stars) for years?
I haven't played genshin for a long while. But it still stings that Star Rail, a game that has comes out for 5 or 6 months (I could be wrong), has given their players more generous rewards for their players. While Gendhin, a game that's around for 3 years now, is kind of left in the dust.
This is just for the 1.6 patch that they've given us a free limited 5 star. While genshin has none of that.
Let's just hope (cope) that things would be better for genshin. 😔✊
If it has the word Honkai in it, expect that to be Hoyo's favorite child.
Ngl this video reeks of straight copium thh lmao.
"I don't want a free 5 star" Are you serious bruh???? Cmon dude, that whole take was cringe. That attitude is exactly why the Genshin community barely gets pennies, because so many people in this community unironically BELIEVE they don't deserve shit. It's just sad.
“Genshin fans are angry”
Wow. What else is new.
I played both games so im just eating my popcorn and watching the drama 😂😂
same lmao
2:24 genshin literally took over HSR last month and that's it lol Genshin bringing in more money than HSR on a monthly basis is literally not a thing
That argument about not giving rewards was cope if I ever heard cope. Like one game community needs to be treated right and has standards and that's bad? And Genshin is allowed to treat people like shit because they're addicted already and have no standards? Just a side note tho the 2 teams are clearly different if one succeeded it gets proped up not the other. Like genshin ain't giving you anything for star rail winning and if zzz flops they're going to give more attention to their other games.Yeah a lot of people from star rail came from the genshin community just telling them things like lack of endgame wasn't a problem and rewards are fine so we shouldn't ask for more whilst the dev team ignored us so to finally get the treatment that we asked for feels great and we obviously gonna shit on the people who weren't giving it to us
Like you the type of person that annoyed the hell out of us during our play. Like you wouldn't want a free 5 star what? Why that's the equivalent of like $300?
The dude's cope is so funny 😂
Not only is the devs of Genshin so stingy with rewards and freebies, they even tried to sell a bundle on their anniversary 😂
Genshin devs treat their player base like trash but there are still people like this guy defending them 😂
I love how Hoyo just easily makes two fandom fight even though they are from the same company. 😂
Who knows maybe they've got separate teams, but still the upper people has the final say.
@redex3933 yes and no... there are indeed 2 different teams however for the Honkai team at least idk about Genshin actually has almost full control so they tend to listen better not to mention no matter how much people deny it the company/CEO has a strong Honkai bias and trends to treat the game a bit better.
It's basically a sibling rivalry at this point between Honkai vs Genshin communities
Meanwhile the Child that everyone ignores (Honkai Impact 3rd) stand at the Side Line drinking Tea and enjoying the Fight between HSR and Genshin. 😂
@@Jailtino-p1q Oof, imagine when ZZZ join in the fun😂
I disagree at the end, it was OG honkai impact 3rd make both this alive in the shadow XD
11:26 yeah pay the players more like being appreciative towards the sole community who made you
"never done before in history" 1:45
HI3rd day one player : I don't think so mate
Imo its the right approach, shouting at genshin now should increase the possibility of them doing this kinda stuff aswell (that is if they will listen for once)
Yeah, I think the communities are very split too. Most people only have time for one of these games, so they pick one. I tried Genshin but quit in Liyue. I play HSR and RPG's, plus work and life so I'm a busy gamer lol. Most games I play, I pay. Plus, an RPG fan so I don't play HSR for free shit, like you insinuated. People should play what they enjoy and feel they're being respected as players/consumers. So, it would be good for Genshin to get a 5-star Character select for anniversary's or something, as well as more QoL and content. That player base is very devoted and Mihoyo makes billions, so the community should get thrown a bone, they can afford it. See? Not bashing anybody. It's not too difficult.
Yeah it's not about paying us to stay it's about us getting respect and appreciation. We weren't going to quit just because we lost a 50/50 but it's a really good gesture to give us a ratio for winning the awards. Also I heard some people saying that he isn't because of the awards but as someone who was paying attention to leaks he definitely was. Like that was last second decision no one was expecting which can only be explained by the awards. If they had some master plan we would have been aware by leaks in advance
Yeah it's not about paying us to stay it's about us getting respect and appreciation. We weren't going to quit just because we lost a 50/50 but it's a really good gesture to give us a ratio for winning the awards. Also I heard some people saying that he isn't because of the awards but as someone who was paying attention to leaks he definitely was. Like that was last second decision no one was expecting which can only be explained by the awards. If they had some master plan we would have been aware by leaks in advance
13:30 Real talk the amount of money HSR when released till now earn was more than genshin impact except for the furina patch , genshin earn a bunch of money at the beginning of its life span was because of marketing and mid pandemic and no gacha was like it and there was no competition now it’s pretty much the other way around there using HSR money to improve genshin ever since HSR ,genshin has been getting more qol changes when the last two years it was radio silence hopefully by people spending money on HSR it will contribute HSR to being a better game than Genshin in the future with future content/gamemode for us to use characters that we got instead of running around two shotting slime or repeating spiral abyss for the 23th time the main reason I still play Genshin is the story and explore the area once and never coming back once 100% I don’t remember the last time I went to dragonspine or chasm think it’s need to be here hanging I don’t feel like pulling for characters because there nowhere to use em
Ps auto play is a godsend in busy people lives I can work and do other things while having HSR farming for me while endgame content I can manual it people mad about auto play when it’s just one of the many option to use or not use
I love both game but when it come to spending extra money I have it will probably go to HSR Ik same company but hopefully they see HSR team earn more and give the HSR dev the more creative freedom to do what there doing now
I don't think you understand that genshin impact is a game revolved around exploration the story and the lore
Honkai star rail on the other hand is making more effort on endgame and gameplay
These two games are completely different and what would be the point of genshin giving us a free limited 5 star character if there's only one place where you can use them (Spiral Abyss) nothing
@@silverX3870spiral abyss is only 1% of the content in Genshin.
@@silverX3870 and I don’t u realize they are a billion dollar company that can provide both story and lore while implementing harder content for the hardcore side of the player base instead of alienate one side of the community
Exploration mean little after u have explored for all the chest the area cause there no incentive to go back to past area unless u need the region exclusive material
For example chasm dragonspine enkonomiya even some the older regions I rarely go there cause there nothing for there I spend most of the time in Fontaine
The defense of oh it’s just a game about story and lore and exploration It’s kind of narrow minded when what’s make the game fun in the beginning is combat going around exploring but in the endgame both exploration and combat are limited so you have to wait potentially five months or more to move on in the story people who are new are having a blast with all the content but if you have been keeping up with the game since day one, you have probably explored most of the map you haven’t chances are you were putting it off for later and some people can’t explore all of it because they’re busy in their lives so they could only play a little bit a day
@@silverX3870you could have one which helps with exploration. I mean with that logic why ever pull for a 5 star. Like it can't be 5 star animations because you don't want a free 5 star and they'd have that. I shall call this what is! Massive Copium
correction, honkai star rail was the bread winner since its release. Genshin went above it in revenue only 1 time since its release and it took a filler patch from star rail and a literal archon from genshin.
I mean, you said it yourself. Genshin is more popular, Genshin is the shop getting plenty of customers. They don't need to run any promotional deals because everyone is already a customer. Star Rail is open for business, but they aren't as popular so they run this and that promotion to attract more customers.
True, there's lots of valid reasons for this...
But people on twitter just be going crazy, L Ratio Genshin
Yh fun to watch ppl use any excuse to bash genshin even though HSR is literally it's sibling game 🤷🏻
Tbh the genshin player base are full of copium rn
Using the game’s revenue as an excuse for them to be more stingy to you is INSANE😭 I can’t wait for you kiddos to grow up so politicians can extrort your ass in the real world LMAO!!!
"care for players" are better than "cash grab"
@@ronron_gamingSure they care players, but are they "really" care? Not really. Among the two 5star in this patch, we both know who the fandom really want. They care players when money is not involved, otherwise we will be feasting on free ruan mei. Both of them are still "Cash grab". One is a little better "Cash grab" to lure players while the other is just plain cash grab.
Before I got a laptop (This year) I was wishing to play HSR and Genshin.
When I got a laptop I download Hsr 1st immediately before Genshin, when I played it I actually have a lot of fun farming and having a great time playing even tho its still new it makes feel like I wanna play it everyday the problem is the material collecting ik its easy but it doesnt give a lot most of the time soo I need to spend all my trailblaze power.
Then I download Genshin recently and I had fun ofc but the problem is that I dont want to play the world quest, soo I can play with someone but my world is still closed for a while because I need to finish all of them soo my friend could play in my world which makes it kinda annoying.
(Thats the problem I ecounter soo far)
Aloy wasn't a playstation exclusive
Why though, this was expected to one day happen in Star Rail. And would be a total 180 if it happened in Genshin
Its less of hate for the game and more of hate for the community and the devs cause both are toxic. And plus like you said it is the same team so why can’t they do the same for genshin. Also to address your point that you think honkai doesn’t have much content, there are 5 endgame modes now plus 10 new main story missions
Yup this 👆
Actually only same company but different dev team
From what i can look hoyoverse like the honkai universe not genshin
13:28 For the people who say this kind of things, i like to remind them that Genshin came out as good as it is because of the money Honkai Impact 3rd gathered for them. Also, that game was the first one to give free S rankers (S rank in HI3 = five star in GI and HSR), so you lied when you said this was "never done in history".
Genshits new cope: Oh we have “exploration” so we have more primo gems.
Like wtf? Don’t you know the meaning of “reward”? You guys really like to grind your head out to get 5 primogems from top of the mountain just to make it enough to get 160 to do one pull?
Oh we have fkin “exploration”. IT’S THE FUCKING PART OF THE GAME NOT FKIN REWARD.
i personally dont care about what game give you, all you need is being greatful and you'll be less angrier.
HSR is really good, the only thing I don't like is the turn based combat system, and the story doesn't draw you in like genshin does. but they're doing other things better like rewards, and endgame content
Love the development overall with games as a whole, hoyoverse is a new developer, everyone seems to forget that during all the fighting that goes on lol
At the beginning, the genshin story was very bad. HSR story is already much better than genshin when it came out and of course it will get even better.
@@AkitoKiryu fr hsr story mad good or atleast the belobog one. I enjoy turn based as well as a final fantasy enjoyed love the game
@@NoelMathew-hv5kf i enjoy the story too (and love ff ^-^) but i mean when the story are more far and after the down time
@@Biimow hoyoverse has been making games for the past 10 years, idk if you can call them new lol
this guy sounds so salty but maybe just me
He does but yeah if your fav game got bashed, who would stop you from defending it, right?
i really like hsr character choose function after pulling 300 times hope genshin had that but i can only cope
The main reason we are not getting a free 5-star in Genshin: LEAKERS! THEY SABOTAGED GENSHIN TO MAKE SURE THE GAME DID NOT GET ANY AWARDS FROM 2023 TGA!
11:09 ok this made me lol and question if we rly think of the same genshin community xD
It's funny because they love to bash on Genshin but at the end of the day that's the game everyone goes back to.
But yeah, Hoyo was really smart with theese two games. It's so not a coincidence that 4.2 was Genshin's biggest pach while 1.5 was HSR lowest. Now we're gonna gave a fun but filler parch while they have a big one. IT'S THE SAME COMPANY GUYS THEY KNOW WHAT THEY ARE DOING.
But yeah congrats Star Rail, this kinda made wish I liked HSR, and I might give it a chance again (or just download it, get Ratio, refuse to elaborate and leave), but I also never got the feel that I just couldn't get what I wanted in Genshin so 🤷🏻♀️
I would say just be happy for your community without bashing ours but the memes have been really funny so yeah a little bullying might be okay 🤭
i think you should do it. maybe when the story is better you play it for the story and then you have dr ratio
Idk I went back to genshin once, experienced the aranara quest then vowed to never return. I think I would go back if they made it so you could journey to all areas in the map without a quest being in the way. Maybe it's changed since that but I remember I only did that quest because it had an area I wanted to explore locked behind it
@@thatokperson Of that's your worry than you can 100% come back. Yes in Sumeru's desert there are areas only available through quests, but in Fontaine you're free to explore, and if you trigger quest that will interfere with important ones they give you the option to refuse it. Now is honestly one of the best time to return! ☺️
Oh is that time of the year already? Just tell me who i need to review bomb.
Haha. it is indeed that time of the year.
google classroom
@@bl00by_ Plottwist, rabid fans start review bombing HSR after this
Regarding Aloy, because Sony owns Horizon she was released for about a month or two on PlayStation before the PC and phone versions of the game, but was only available for a short time. As for why they haven't released her constellations, I have no idea, they do have names and properties assigned to them along with a material that doesn't exist in the game. I don't know why they didn't just release her through one of those 7 day events, login the first day to get Aloy and her weapon, and over the next 6 days you get her constellations and weapon rank up materials, but they didn't do that either. Personally, I think that Sony might have cancelled an event they had planned for her after the anniversary backlash, as Aloy was released at around the same time, a lot of people review bombed Genshin, along with other completely unrelated games, like Fate/Grand Order and Raid Shadow Legend, which if anything may have interfered with Genshin's future chances of collaborating with other games, of course another reason would be the Descender lore.
I used to play Brown Dust a number of years back, now it's called Brave Nine, but if I remember correctly, on it's first anniversary they gave away a 4* and 5* selection for each class, there are four classes in the game, plus at least 1 Legendary character (though it may have been 2), which is basically like an Archon or a 6* character, so it was around 9 to 10 characters, and the players got to pick who they wanted. Brave Nine also had an option to pick which 5* and 4* characters would receive rate up, and while it would take awhile before you would receive your guaranteed character, and there was no 50/50 option, the drop rates were generally pretty good.
i think they got dr ratio for free prob cuz a lot of hi3 devs also woek on hsr and like hi3 is really nice to the players too nand u can see that da weis favourite child is hi3 and then hsr is enjoying the fact that theyre also a honkai a game
HSR is a Honkai game afterall, Honkai impact 3rd may as well have gifted out all of their characters for free, made them grindable or sold them off in the battlepass.
I mean the reality is Genshin has the worst rewards given to its player base are the worst in any Gatcha I have ever seen. I play both games but the fact it they can't ever reward us for anything in Genshin.
6:52 they do that because so called geshin stans are known for their behaviour and aggregation toward others and some people like to shit on them when they get L+Ratioed on.
Especially so after their concerted efforts in getting to the shitlist of both Gamers (PC, Console, and Mobile) and Weebs (What Ufotable doing?)
A lot of the people making memes and laughing are people who play both games. Because the people who play both games, recognize the difference in appreciate between the two teams of developers. Yes, they are the same company, but they are two different teams making the games. The memes are highlighting a difference in treatment, but it's not a matter of resources, GI has more money to work with then HSR does, as it makes more money than HSR, however, despite making less money HSR's dev team appreciates their players more, than GI appreciates their players.
The reason it hurts so much, is because GI players have been saying for YEARS that they don't feel appreciated or loved by the development team. It seems to be the case that we ask for changes in Genshin, and never get them, but people ask for changes in HSR and they get them AND MORE. However we have to cope instead of just admitting that the HSR team just gives a shit about it's players more than GI. =(
The world quests and the story quesnt on their own are much better than star rail. I loved the penacony reveal but it seems like that doesn't even matter. It looks amazing but nope, we gotta shit on something else instead of talking about the hsr devs and their ability to build these amazing fantasy worlds and the characters.. I dont like overwatch 2 anymore as i used to so i dont play and don't engage in any conversations. Not hard to do. Grow up
what I am saying is, it's not HSR players making memes, it's people who play Genshin Impact, who are making the memes. It's just a way for Genshin Impact players to vent their frustrations. Nothing wrong with that, and I think we Genshin Players deserve to be able to be upset about how much HSR loves it's players, but GI doesn't seem to love us....@@mangshu21
Exactly there is one commentor call livtha who won't shut up shitting on hsr saying its a rip off. Um buddy Honkai existed longer than genshin since this goes back to hi3 and older games. Both games are different in different world and tbh the turn base makes feel like final fantasy and a few other games. All in all people need to grow up@@mangshu21
Genshin's lead producer is Mhy's CEO while HSR's lead producer is someone else
it's easy to tell which game is a dumping ground for testing player's patience and which one actually has to perform well
I have gotten far more stellar jade is Star Rail than in Genshin. The lack of primogems for f2p players is the main reason I stopped playing and Star Rail just hands out premium currency like candy in top of the log-in tickets
i cant even update hsr anymore either.
Many HSR player are also actuelle or ex genshin player😂there are mad because HSR at his release got criticism about that the game will not succeed by some genshin community. So since that the "two community" free fire each other.
it is because of people like u who are afraid to disappoint genhin community for positive critisim and then cry toxicity when others games give players hat they want.
In all honesty I don't care. I play both and am satisfied with both and I'll take a free five star when I can. The way I see it, people are only complaining now that it's happened. And, to be fair, you do a hell of a lot more with Genshin characters than Star Rail characters. So, I will just happily play with this new character who I will nickname Dr L+Ratio, a totally original joke that I am sure nobody has already come up with
The only reason this is happening is bcoz people who play HSR also play Genshin, they usually arent different people. So its not that they are trolling genshin players but the genshin devs and genshin diehards. I myself play both but yeah HSR devs are way better at rewarding their players whereas Genshin has a good story.
i really think its about how the communities handle things, and damn... 1st month of genshin and peoples already trashed out zhongli until 2~3 buffs are maded in about 3 months
I did see a lot of "free just to retain players or game dead" from many GI players, they forget that HSR playerbase will never really die out in a way as long as HI exists, all that "HI part 1 is finished, Hsr is kind of a sequel to us", will always have HI veterans playing hsr, not to mention Hsr's own dedicated playerbase. Game is honestly performing a lot better than both HI and GI when they launched respectively, it was a different time but it is what it is. "Lore is not at that lvl yet", sure but I see what Hsr is cooking with SU lore, the world building & I'll watch them cook, it's going to be on par with GI, HI(hopefully but not sure). Infinite possibilities when universe is the limit xd.
i wanna try star rail so bad but it just refuses to run- Genshin is being neglected
Have you tried downloading in main website
i have, it aready downloaded and ing but it wont run @@markeedionisio5788
Is it the unity screen crash that's causing ur game to not run?
idk it just says display driver has stopped working then another pop up says "Star rail cannot run looking for solutions" then it just takes me back to the launcher@@talksalot7562
HSR are more generous,GI is just deadbeat the some ol ignored child
This is legit man. As a gamer of a lot of hoyoverse games of irony of this
I don’t think it’s about free stuff anymore. Genshin delivered what the Anime community has always longed for and they knew how bad people would be addicted to the game. They know that people will still play because people have invested way too much money and time in this game to let it fail.
Genshin was like the abusive relationship that we eventually left until we met Star Rail. Genshin's was doom ever since... The first anniversary. Still have PTSD from that.
On the Genshin Fandom, I've only seen one person disappointed. Everyone else ultimately didn't care
That's good to hear, genshin have Aloy, they should be grateful
@@Donkam_haurder Your name says how I'm feeling about Aloy, and I don't even have her.
I still cant get over the name of the charater😂😂😂
STAR RAIL KEEPS ON WINNING!!!!! Honkai games are truly HoYo's favorite children! Genshin would never!
W + Ratio + Optimizations + New Content + QOL + Free Limited 5 Star = PEAK GACHA!!!!
I do genuinely feel bad for the Genshin players, i was one of them, i played from 1.1 to 2.5, i love the characters, world, lore, etc. of Genshin so it is sad to see.
I should have enough to do one or two 10 pulls on Ruan Mei's banner to see if i get lucky and after that i should have a guaranteed Black Swan by the end of Black Swan's banner! Good Luck on everyone's pulls!!!!