FFXIV Patch 6.5- Lore Reaction
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#ffxiv #patch #endwalker - Ігри
I must confess... I did not give the Fairy a gun... I gave them the key to the entire armory...
As a SCH I can tell you something: giving the fairy a gun is a DPS gain
As a MCH I can tell you something: they stole my gun and I need to have it back. Please help.
@@sondimons2880 No, our fairies will keep your guns they are in better hands anyways. (much love from a SCH/BRD)
@@KitsuneRogue 😭
3:28 this initial kingdom is most definitely based on Baron from FFIV. Especially with the music being The Red Wings
Makes me excited for a Final Fantasy IV remake of somekind
@@shepherdstar14 oh I sure hope so!
7:39 looks like it'd be about the tribal alliance quest, and... are they having a race between the omicrons, dragons, and the kill-beast we fought in the last dungeon of 6.0? With the loporrits providing commentary?
The start is 100% Baron Castle with the theme of the Red Wings playing.
As for the Four Fiends, in FF4 they returned on the Moon to fight the party all at once even after they were defeated individually.
In the 24 man part, I'm *shocked* that you didn't mention that Llymlaen has Perykos and Thalaos with her!
Bless I was looking for this comment!
As someone who played FF16, I will say the Palace/Castle in 3:29 remjnds me of Baron Castle from FF4, Royal Palace of Rabanastre from FF12, Akademia from FF Type-0 and Rosaeia from FF16
I wonder that by suffusing herself with light, Zero's not only going to have her aether balanced, but by being on the Thirteenth the amount of light she'd emit would actually bring a modicum of balance to it.
At 12:17 we can see that they're actually near the Floodwall, and this presumably takes place before the third dive into the Void. So I assume- and it's hinted- that she's gonna take a whole bunch of that primordial light into her and bring it into the void. Since she's completely darkness-aspected, she wouldn't be as in danger as the Warrior of Light was when THEY were a light sponge, meaning she's possibly a really good battery for it. Then when they get to the Thirteenth, all that light might be expelled in one way or another- around 16:13, Zero seems to be glowing. So this hopefully mean she's not going to sacrifice her LIFE, but she is gonna have to leave the Void for a little while due to not only the void's stabilizing aether, but her own.
(Edit: she also glowed near the beginning too. Forgot about that.)
In a way, she'd be sacrificing a part of herself without death, as she's very much a fan favorite, no matter how much the vocal minority that hates her says. That being said, all that aether would probably have some horrid side effects on her, so I expect her to struggle adjusting because she is/was half-voidsent.
Patch 6.5 is called "Growing Light", and the dev team did state that a patch title usually has multiple meanings. I could be wrong, but it's a gut feeling.
The Castle in the 1st few moments of the trailer calls back to Baron, the trial was of Ashura from FFIV, and the animal on the screen is a sphinx of some kind? The Trident might be the Navigator. Zero is going through Cecil's journey in FFIV. Galuf, if He went to Tural then Krile's Role in Dawntrail is going to be great! If the Archfiends return it down harken to The Moon. In fact they fuse into a Superboss in the 3D remake via New Game Plus.
i just realized, with venat gone the echo may still manifest given the right circumstances as it's ingrained in everyone's souls, heck a bunch of new echo users were probably awakened thanks to the second final days, but the blessing of light may never be given again
Yup! The echo will still appear. But we are among the last ever to get the true Blessing of Light.
On one hand I get that we are getting a new journey in dawntrail but I can't help but be overcome with sadness. Knowing this is our last episode in the Hydealyn saga fills me with so much emotion I can barely handle it.
Since we're going to the First, I really hope Gaia at least gets *mentioned* while we're there.
Feels like it'd be a progression dependent text, since players who didn't touch Eden wouldn't technically know about Gaia, if memory serves...
With all the FF4 influences in that current story, it almost feels like Zero will have a similar "change of character" like Cecil in FF4, who turns from Dark Knight to Paladin.
Also the Lopporits look like they have like some streaming/comment video goin on there with footage in the background lol
That background behind Zeromus in that fight looks like the Dark Within. I think Zeromus makes it to the Source and is trying to break the barrier we set up. We have to push him back to the 13th.
Alisaie looks so happy on that patch logo.
Zero is pretty much doing the Cecil path, she's a being of darkness turning into the lightside, just like Cecil goes from Dark Knight to Paladin
I'm sorry but... this is hilarious to me. XD
* trailer starts *
* one of the most important theme of FF4 starts playing *
Scribe: Ah! FF16! Indeed.
7:42 I can tell you exactly what's happening here.
Wacky Races, Endwalker beast tribes edition.
There was an optional boss in FF4 DS that was a fusion of the 4 Archfiends of that game
I'm almost completely certain that the loperates are Commentators on a race, and this is for the beast tribe quest.
A few things I thought of;
It's possible Zero is able to sort of "merge" with us like a reaper avatar to hitch a ride to the 1st.
The castle in the beginning is Baron. Their color was red and they had an assault wing of airships called the Red Wings. The music at the start is their theme and made me smile.
As far as Zero, I really don't know that she is going to be with us after 6.5. I have a suspicion that she is either going to sacrifice herself (less likely) or decide that she has finally learned to fight for her world and will stay in the 13th to do so (more likely). Personally, I would rather have her become a permanent fixture of the scions but she was noticeable absent from the Dawntrailer.
We didn't see Zero or Krile because they want to keep certain things a secret in a reveal trailer that aired during the current patch. So presumably, they want to keep Zero's fate a secret until then, hence why she isn't shown in the reveal trailer. Krile is in a similar boat as she's possibly becoming the new caster job.
Zero is the most boring character in the entire damn cast. Her entirely personality boils down to "autistic girl doesn't understand emotions and society" and i've seen that trope too many times to give a fuck anymore.
I care more about Hildibrand than Zero. Zero could get pierced through the heart 1000 times and I would not care, but if Hildibrand died i'd probably shed a manly tear.
@@Sneedmeister I'm an autistic girl so that comment rubs me the wrong way, but whatever floats your boat man. Doesn't change the fact that she's actually really popular amongst the fandom.
@@sondimons2880 popular for reasons nobody can explain other than "she's popular"
you only like her because she's a "fan favorite" which is why you cant tell me why YOU like her.
@@Sneedmeister I'm not going to argue with you because it's a waste of time but just to let you know, I like her because she's interesting to me and can actually relate to her because of similarities. Again like you noted, she has autism vibes.
first! I was so excited to see this coming up on my notifications!
Also. Synodic. Did you really call the endwalker relics the easiest ones?! THOSE TOMESTONES ARE ANYTHING BUT EASY TO GRIND 😭😭😭
Yeah the known members of the 12, Rhalgr specifically i think, mentioned that their appearances were influenced by dynamis over time.
So because Nymia joined in with the Althyk fight, assuming we get 4 encounters like the last 2 raids, we’re short a deity unless there’s a 13th god for us to beat in the 7th heaven.
i'm so friggin excited
I love how you pointed out immediately that zero could reach the first easily, cause we've also seen hopping back and forth in the shb caster rolequest AND we have the shadowkeeper lore, so 👀
The castle at the start makes me think of Baron from FFIV, which would make sense because the music playing is the theme song of their fleet.
8:05 that's pretty obviously the allied tribes quest, with the loporrits probably reporting on something happening at the cafe at the end of the universe. Idk how they'll tie in the arkasodara though. And also how tf will Nhaza'a Jaab get to ultima thule to do his job this time
Dear Synodic Scribe,
1st of all, I want to thank you for your lore videos, they're freaking amazing and I freaking cannot live without them :D On second place, yea, the four fiends returning comes from FF4 where you defeat them all and then they have like a final stand against your party, fighting all together at once (even tho in reality you only fight one at a time, one after another), so I guess it will happen something similar in FFXIV ^^
I'm sure the dev and lore team have come up with something even tho, as you said, it's not accurate due to being "incarcerated" in the memoria crystals.
I hope you find this useful :)
After doing The Lunar Subterrane dungeon, it definitely looked almost identical to the Rosalith dungeon in XVI.
baron castle, thats where my thought went
There's also a hole in the wheel, which connects with the idea of their being an unseen 13th member. Sure, we had someone in that position, but what if all of this is to complete a ritual to grant divinity to a new god to fill the void and keep things from falling out of balance?
GET THIS MAN A PS5
I am confused. How was void sent lore contradicted in the patches? I thought it was just explaining further what we knew. I mean, the cloud of darkness came back in the cutscene after the fight, so clearly they just can't die. Or was it something else?
Things that I'd need more than a UA-cam comment box to thoroughly explain. Suffice to say. Myself and other Lore Channels have been confused for the passed couple patches. lmao
@@SynodicScribe sounds like a post 6.5 MSQ video idea
6:44 I LITERALLY SCREAMED THE SAME THING! 🤣
For mw the biggest shock in the trailer is the archfiends return. Remember how and where we killed each one of them.
Scarmiglione: VOID (Troia): Imprisoned in Memoriate
Barbariccia: VOID (Her Domain): Imprisoned in Memoriate.
Cagnazzo: SOURCE (Lapis Manalis): Theoretically dispersed into the lifestream.
Rubicante: Source (Top of the Giantsgall Grounds / Mt. Ordeals) Theoretically dispersed into the lifestream.
Scarmiglione and Barbariccia returning isn't super surprising, They were never truely gone, just imprisoned.
The other two should have returned to the lifestream, So I had considered them gone, But if the lifestream is still trickling into the void and Golbez or Zeromus can extract them, We have issues.
Then there's the fact that the Memoriate crystals look EXACTLY like the Ancient's Concept crystals, Seen in The Watchers Palace on Mare Lamentorum, Seen in Akademia Anyder, Anamnesis Anyder, Ktisis Hyperboreia, And possibly others. Same dimond pattern in their centers, Memoriate just doesn't have the gold caps.
We know that Ancients could submit concepts for approval for widespread creation, So if they ARE one and the same, We could ultimately get thousands of little Barbariccia and Scarmigliones, if given enough Aether.
So. MANY. Unanswered. QUESTIONS.
The very possibility of Galuf having significance for Dawntrail, no matter how big or small, feels like one of those "Duh!" things, in hindsight, what with the whole Warriors of Dawn thing and all~
I’ll be a Lunarcon mod at your meet & greet. Can’t wait to see you there!
For real?! Thank you in advance for your hard work!
4:02 Um WHAT?!?! The fact that her connection to Hydaelyn is gone means...holy shit we actually be the last ones to ever receive the Blessing of light...the implications of this are impossibly large, especially since there are still Ascians out there, leaderless as they are.
did you notice the dungeon from stormblood?
Hey there lore master! I am glad you posted a video. I had yet another question for you on something I needed clearing up on. A friend of mine and I were discussing the sundering the other day. The question came up of how Emet Selch, Lahabrea, and Elidibus escaped the sundering.
I said i thought it was because most of them had already died to feed Zodiark and any unsundered that were still alive didn't get sundered and Emet, Laha, and Elidibus are the 3 that have survived over the millenia since.
She says hydaelyn specifically chose not to sunder Emet because he knew what was going on even if a spell was preventing him from remembering the events at the Ktisis Hyperborea and that the others were near him at the time and so were also unaffected.
I countered with "what about Mitron? Nabriales? Igeyorhm?"
She said they were sundered ascians that were raised like Fandaniel. I told her I didn't think that was the case because of their masks but now I'm not so sure because it's been a while since I've gone through the msq. Can you shed any light on this?
It's confusing for sure. As the events of the Sundering have never been entirely fleshed out. Even I don't know exactly what happened in great detail.
For example. You're both working with odd data. You asserted that Convocation members other than Elidibus made a sacrifice for Zodiark, which is never stated to have happened. And your friend said that Hydaelyn spared the unsundered on purpose, because of what she already knew. Which is also never stated, and technically impossible based on events prior to Endwalker.
The truth is that the events of the Sundering, as in, the details of what exactly happened are a mystery to us still. Suffice to say. The Unsundered used their powers to find and enlighten the sundered Ascians. Also, I wouldn't read to hard into their masks. As those have ever just been visual representations, and never a solid basis for their soul/power.
@@SynodicScribe I actually didn't assert that the convocation sacrificed for zodiark, but rather that any unsundered period that hadn't yet died as a sacrifice to Zodiark didn't get sundered by Hydaelyn. They just didn't survive all the way up to the events of FF14.
Because the unsundered were sacrificing their lives to initially summon and later keep empowering Zodiark, correct? My main assumption is just by the time Hydaelyn actually sundered the world that just about every unsundered that wasn't in the convocation was basically already dead.
Either way I'm glad it's just a matter of this not being specifically explained and not that I'm forgetting major story information or misremembering.
@@dustinhatfield8373 The only memeber of the convocation that was sacrificed was Elidibus. The sundered were just that- sundered. Meaning their souls were around TO BE sundered.
@@siyrean I'm not talking about the convocation tho. Zodiark was summoned by killing off half the population of unsunsered ascians. And their population was further killed off to make him stronger. Is emets whole plan in Shadowbringers not to bring back all those sacrificed in zodiarks name by killing off every sundered being to do so?
6:53 *nervously raises a hand, having both MCH and SCH as main classes*
3:30 With the context that most of the patch quests being based off of FFIV, it gave me more of Barron vibes than anything. In fact I was thinking that maybe in a flashback we would see Barron before the 13th fell to darkness but that's just my thoughts.
14:51 This is very much a "IDK how this is gonna work out in the story of FFXIV but this is a DIRECT reference to FFIV"
I think the castle might be Figaro Castle
I noticed that Vrtra is EXTREMELY WHITE during that short clip ( 12:39 onwards). or was that a "Sin Eater" in the form of Vrtra?
While you were speaking about Ryne, it made me wonder something. With Hydaelyn gone, does that mean that nobody else will ever awaken to the Echo?
People will indeed be able to awaken to the echo without Hydaelyn, as her involvement was never necessary. Though it may not happen as often as usual.
As someone who doesnt have knowledge of IV but has in fact enjoyed XVI, I can toss in from the other side what has been stated previously - nah, that castle bears very little resemblance to Rosaria. No more than many stone castles resemble one another. While there are places one can see the influence of XVI on XIV, it has not yet become a lore influence but a technical one. Enviromental improvements are some of the most obvious examples.
IF ANYTHING HAPPENS TO VRTRA I AM NOT GOING TO BE ABLE TO CARRY ON IN LIFE
the Lore confirms it SHEMPIS VoX OC is one of the 12! and the smartest of them,lol
What voidsent lore has been retconned? Do note that there is a difference between retconning and clarification on things you thought but many use that term anyway.
The nature of their deaths has been changed. Before Endwalker it had been acknowledged that slays a Voidsent is akin to exorcising it. Banishing it back to the 13th Shard. Which is how they've been a consistent never ending problem for thousands of years.
Now post Endwalker's story says their souls joined the Source's aetherial realm upon defeat. Not only was this never suggested to be a thing, it directly contradicts previous statements and in world research.
If not a retcon. Then the writers purposely made many characters and researchers look extremely stupid for no good/visible reason.
@SynodicScribe Yeah, yeah. This was a retcon. It brings to mind things like the 2.0 black mage and thaumaturge quests. I am, however, much more willing to be lenient with them when it comes to retconning 2.0 era lore specifically due to the circumstances in which it was written.
It was me...
I did it, I gave my fairy a gun.
Don't judge me.
Experimentation is Important.
We know 6.5 will have 2 parts, so 2 story batches, and if this trailer has only the 6.5 story and no hints to 6.55,
My current biggest question is where the Asura trial is?
Like we know the 6.5 trial is zeromus, then where is asura? It cant be part of a dungeon, and isnt in the alliance raid, could it be from 6.55? Why would it pop up after zeromus?
i think its part of hildibrand's questline. wont be the first time they've had a trial attached to them.
As a reminder the final boss for the A-raid will not be one of the 12. Snice we fought a double boss in part 2 we now only have 3 left to face in part 3 of the A-raid. So the final boss is still completely unknown.
Some ideas: In the last part they talked about an unknown watcher, which very likely the Watcher on the moon. It's possible it's him we face. Kind of doubt that one.
Another idea is they somehow combine all their power and we face off against some amalgamation of them.
One Idea I had some time ago was that the 12 had an unknown ruler. We've seen and been to 4 of the 7 heavens which means there are 3 left. The 7 heavens is an idea that extends beyond FF14, normally the 7th haven is the Seat of God. The other heavens may have powerful beings within them but the 7th has the one that rules over all. So, the idea was what if this 7th heaven has that being. In the staging area for the Raids we have these sort of Gates where you enter the raid. Each gate corresponds to an element. Fire, Water, Earth, Air, Ice, and Lighting, and one more. See there are 7 of these structures around the area not 6. Before the raid is unlocked these dome structures are closed, on the ground. Once the raid is unlocked the corresponding gates/heavens are opened. There is another more grand looking dome in the back of the area it is already lifted and is floating above the ground. The other gates lead us to the various members of the 12 that lived there, so it stands to reason the 7th on in the back dose the same.
But what is the 7th gate. It's not talked about all that much in the lore as far as I can tell but I have an idea. All of the other heavens correspond to one of the 6 elements, and each of the 12 corresponds to a Astral or Umbral alignment of those elements. However, you can have Aether that is unaspected to any element. Much like how Bahamut wasn't a fire dragon or something, he was a Primal of Astral Aether. Thordan was similar, he was however an Umbral Primal. My best guess is the 7th Heaven was Ruled by deities of Umbral and Astral Aether. I say was, because I think it was Zodiark and Hydaelyn who had taken over those roles. Which only makes me more confused and sure that I'm wrong about something, because that would mean those heaven's are un attended too, and Umbral and Astral Aether are no longer being directed. It would also still beg the question of, who the crap are we fighting in the final fight?
I do assume it's the unknown thirteenth god since it's been hinted and we already fought Nymeia alongside her brother. I don't know if it's the Watcher since they don't just give us the obvious solution. I do know because of Yoshi-P playing through the Heaven of Water segment during the live letter, the path to Thaliak is a long one- possibly to make up for the fact that it'd end earlier. So I do assume we're gonna go through 3 Heavens this tier instead of 2.
professor i hope you are ready to face zeromus i am
Very eager!
All this moistness yet they probably still wont give us a Job that wields lots of water elemental nukes like Geomancer; which would be the perfect job to revive Flood, Quake and Tornado ancient spells. ;-;
only now I am seeing Jullus in the poster... hmm🤨
The question is: will we finally see Unukalhai help his homeland? Probably not...
I wish as well, but prolly not. Because to see him on the 1st requires having done all the class quests in Shadowbringers, which not everyone did.
Its possible for us to get further quests following the ShB Master Role Quests, but I don't see it being added to the MSQ
Yoshida mentioned that players should finish Eden and the Warring Triad before 6.5.
We can probably expect a name drop or two, but nothing else.
Intro kingdom 100% gives Final Fantasy 1-5 cities, given how much this takes from 4 that makes more sense, doesn't really look anything like Rosaria IMO.
I haven't played FFIV, but from what I've heard they have been relying heavily on its lore and settings for this post-EW MSQ (which is a point of criticism for some people), Zeromus and the Fiends coming back in some capacity (IV had some clones and stuff I think) in the final dungeon, The Lunar Subterrane; it all checks out. It's cool that they're integrating it into XIV lore though, better than randomly inserting Final Fantasy bosses for the sake of fanservice... ehm, Omega raids...
Baron my friend. Baron. This entire expansion, music and theming, are all loosely based around FFIV, not XVI.
darn, mist the first comment. oh well. excited for a new video.
Happy to have you!
Is this a video theory ?
I swear if Thaleia drops something like "yeah the 12 arent primals because instead of pure aether, they're pure Dynamis so really they'recloser to whatever it is you'd call the Endsinger" I'm going to sob.
That would be a hard sell. Especially since abilities we've seen in the Raid have had Aether in the name. xD
I dis-like V-tubers that interrupt video releases. Save all comments to thee end of the video. 1st run... Don't touch!. Just a suggestion. Then, if you have comments on the video, re-run it and tear it up all you like. Just saying. 😇
Just to let you know that you sound a bit condescending, mate- especially with that emoji. You do sound like you watch reactions before watching the trailer.
It's his content, the play-by-play commentary is completely harmless. Live a little.