No don't think like that. The old gen have gone way worse situations than us. The most successful people have taken advantage of harsh situations. The world won't end.
@@cosmicfilth4028 bro, this is the exact way I’ve made money to buy 70% of my gear. No one thinks about it and crack heads don’t give blood b/c they have toxins in the system normally so you’re not getting weirdos at the donation stations. 2 other dudes that I shoot and train with also give blood for money. You can actually make a lot of money doing it. Every 8th visit I get a $900 bonus because of how badly the clinics need blood. The supply is very low.
2 rifles: one for 300 maybe a bit farther and in. One for 200ish and mainly in. 2 pistols: one that can be an edc as well as a duty/ combat and one for only duty/combat. one shotgun: any situation mainly a key to the city but also as a give away if need be. Not to mention all the gear you need for each weapon. To include kit to do recon and low vis ops. Once my 14.5 GPR build is done and I get a wml and sling on my shot gun, this is my next step.
Honestly this may be the most pragmatic and respectful of the consumer video I've seen from a company that sells NV. It is an important capability but many other things come before it
We just want to see people making wise decisions. If they’re ready, we’d love to help them get into units. If it isn’t time, focus on other stuff first 💪🏻💪🏻
@@Arkayne that earns so much respect, and from me personally (and hopefully many others) a lot of future business for the overall value and inspiration you provide.
L3's or Elbit? Either way how have they been long term for you? I'm a recent purchaser and like to hear how other's who have had their's longer have felt about their time with their nods.
I love my Night vision gear, so much fun and great capability but not one single friend has any so it sucks when there is no one to go out with. but I guess such is life LOL.
@@joshm3297 i get the interest rate initially but i think since i have expendable money coming my way this would be a good option for me to get the ball rolling right now and just pay it off in a few months. how was the process?
probably much much cheaper to install some construction lights around your property with polycarbonate covers around the bulbs to absorb bullet impacts
You echo many of my thoughts about civ night vision. Folks should really buy NV only if: A. Other kit and baseline training is squared away. B. You can afford it without going into debt, and or draining their family vacation fund, kid'(s) college funds, etc. C. If you know you'll have the TIME INVESTMENT to devote to training to achieve the minimum competency to actually engage an opponent. Note: This is training time *on top of* the time you are already devoting to daylight training. One can't really replace the other; these are two different skill sets. D. If you know that you have access to a range or land that allows for low light/night shooting (not as common as you might think). E. You have other team mates who are also NV equipped (don't get sucked into this lone wolf operator nonsense). If even one of these elements is missing, IMO, you should seriously rethink spending the money and focus on more productive time/money investments. As with everything else, be realistic about the likelihood you will have to use this. Don't invest this kind of money based upon some kind of movie plot you've conjured in your head or pipedream goonsquad aspirations that have little chance of happening in real life on planet Earth.
As always... Mega based, honest, and loving (philia & agape, of selfless charity and willing the good of the other) advice to help others prepare and prioritize investments in gear and training.
Good use of that Agape brother. That's another thing missing from the second amendment community is philosophical and spiritual enlightenment. 🙏Take care friend
It’s time ‘night vision’ tech gets implemented into wrap around ‘protection goggles with 180°+ angle of views’ … the extreme narrow angle of view can be deadly … for you.
You know, I got the COD Ghost VIP package that has the night vision headset and Statue in the collectors set. I'm not gonna lie. That night vision set is actually really well made and functional. I figured it was just going to be some type of janky Walmart prop like thing, but I've used it many times night hunting for hog and even my friends with proper night vision are impressed with it
I have everything checked off, aside from the fiscal position. My personal finances are tight after a few surprises earlier this year. However, I think NVGs are a must, especially if you live in an urban area. NVG30 looks like the first affordable digital solution that offers any real practicality. So I just took that plunge.
I bought a build kit, just before a unexpected financial setback happened and now I have no intensifier and a bunch of parts......... God has a sense of humor. I support you guys 100%. I plan to purchase a tube sometime next year. I wish you had a layaway program.
Best way to get into NV is to get a PVS-7 secondhand ($1300-1600) or GP PVS-14 ($2300-2800). Don't let people gaslight you into taking out a second mortgage to pay for WP duals initially. NV holds its value and if it comes time for you to upgrade, you can sell your original set for like 90% of what you bought it for. I'm an airborne infantry veteran, sample size of one, but I prefer an extremely high spec PVS-14 over budget duals at the $4000 price point.
Agreed. And I will add this for prospective buyers....Do not look through high end tubes if you plan on buying low/moderate end units because you will be disappointed. I got a chance to look through L3's latest & greatest commercially available tubes.....and would not be satisfied with buying anything less than.
I truly believe digital is going to take over tubes in the near future. The exact same thing happened in the motion picture industry. Film was overtaken by digital. Just a matter of time. Moore's Law
Let's hope the digital night vision guys don't try to jump on the extremely high-priced train. At least the analog night vision manufacturers can justify their prices based on the high cost of making just one analog tube. I'm not too hopeful about this though seeing that Sionyx priced the Opsin at the price of a PVS-14 which is ridiculous.
You aren’t wrong. And weve handled units that nobody else in this nation has seen. It is coming, but it’s not what everyone thinks it will be. It will be ridiculously expensive at first, because the tech doesn’t exist in mass manufacturing. Once it’s mass produced, it will get less expensive, but for reasons we legally can’t even discuss, it will still be very expensive when you first experience it.
@Arkayne Co anything that is groundbreaking and brand-new is going to be expensive. The difference ultimately will be that the price will come down because of competition. Right now, we know where tubes come from. Same reason why thermal keeps getting cheaper and better. Once tube technology gets out of the way and digital gets better it will just make it easier and easier for new companies to pop up. Competition is the best thing for the consumer.
Looking back on my cost: Photonis Vyper 4G green 6400 Wendy bump Helmet, mount, headset w/ comm compatibility, Surefire x300V on Kinetic LOLA, admin light, NERD: 1965ish Rifle with Ripcord rail, MAWL, LED ACOG and Steiner MPS on top: 6500ish(7500 w/ can in ATF jail) I have a spare 10.3 with a holosun LS321G and aimpoint, surefire vampire, etc. This makes me sick to my stomach how much it all cost. It gets stupid expensive. This doesn't include like they said the training, food supplies, handguns, ammo storage, life. I never went into debt for any of this. Being debt free will allow you to buy some stupid fun stuff. I sold a PVS14 and a Tudor black bay 58 plus extra gun stuff to buy the nods without any money out of pocket for duals.
Any thoughts on going with a nocturn tanto then bridging them as your working towards binos(two tantos)? Hesitant to buy a pvs-14 knowing ill lose money selling it for binos
I know this is slightly off topic but does running something like a pvs 14 on one eye and thermal on the other cause problems I know some people like it others say it can cause Sevier head aches
If you want it, get it when you can, because NV is not going to get any cheaper. The price precedent has already been set. This equipment doesn't follow the typical downward price trend of normal consumer electronics.
I just turned 21 and got nv last year and Did it debt free, it’s expensive but man is it worth it, I was actually doing some night hunting last night and man is it satisfying shooting a moving rabbit with an IR laser under nods.
My first night vision goggles were panos. I didn't have the pockets for thr the GPNVG 18 but I did get the QTNVG. I did purchase L3 Harris Gen 3 white phosphor, filmless tubes. All 4 tubes were around 2400 FOM. They cost me $13,000. After purchasing the housing and assembly they ran me, $21,500. I still need an IR laser though. I want to ditch the QTNVG housing for the Nocturn Industries Chimera Panoramic goggles. I cant wait for them to be available.
Gotta' ask...Why???? Why would you sink 21grand on a panos set-up and not even have an IR laser yet???? Panos when the highest spec dual set-up would be more than enough with $$ left over to buy your IR laser....and whatever else. No matter how justified, panos don't offer a significant increase in capabilities over duals that warrant the cost difference for the average civ dude. And some would make the same argument with duals against 14's. Nonetheless, I'd take duals over an empty wallet and neck strain any day...but...it's your money.
@@billydanzz I haven't gotten an ir laser yet as I'm still deciding. I just got them back a month ago. I may have to go with the B.E. Meyers Mawl. I don't want to spend the money yet as I still need a place to shoot and I just purchased the new Sig rifle in an auction that has my wallet on life support. No neck strain for me. I wore them for about 5-6 hours at a time and my neck has been okay. Maybe that's not enough time to feel any real strain. I just have the mentality of I would rather spend 5 times the money on something I really want than a 5th of the price on something that I don't really care for. The 1st time I saw panos, I was immediately interested. Monoculars and binos never had that effect on me. I will eventually buy maybe a pvs14 at some point for training.
As a general rule you can find good night vision for about $1,000 per generation. You can get an aviation grade gen 3 white phosphor for about $3200 if you go with a pvs 14 and there are Chinese PEQ15 clones that are full power and durable for about $350. Level 3a helmets only cost a few hundred dollars as well. Boom full NV setup for about 4k.
Yes sir. 14's are an excellent option and the Chinese lasers are good for a hobbyist and training. That being said there is no way I would trust my life or my buddy's lives with one. I guess it just all depends on your reasons for possessing the kit. Having professional tools does not make one a professional, but all professionals have professional tools. To each their own.
I’m thinking the entire global economy is going to collapse before I’m able to afford night vision
No don't think like that. The old gen have gone way worse situations than us. The most successful people have taken advantage of harsh situations. The world won't end.
"Then take out a loan to buy you NV if you're that pessimistic.....because what difference will your debt make at that point..."
- Captain Sarcasm
Your body makes blood. Sell blood, by nods. Simple.
@@cosmicfilth4028 bro, this is the exact way I’ve made money to buy 70% of my gear. No one thinks about it and crack heads don’t give blood b/c they have toxins in the system normally so you’re not getting weirdos at the donation stations. 2 other dudes that I shoot and train with also give blood for money. You can actually make a lot of money doing it. Every 8th visit I get a $900 bonus because of how badly the clinics need blood. The supply is very low.
Same
2 rifles: one for 300 maybe a bit farther and in. One for 200ish and mainly in. 2 pistols: one that can be an edc as well as a duty/ combat and one for only duty/combat. one shotgun: any situation mainly a key to the city but also as a give away if need be. Not to mention all the gear you need for each weapon. To include kit to do recon and low vis ops. Once my 14.5 GPR build is done and I get a wml and sling on my shot gun, this is my next step.
Honestly this may be the most pragmatic and respectful of the consumer video I've seen from a company that sells NV. It is an important capability but many other things come before it
We just want to see people making wise decisions. If they’re ready, we’d love to help them get into units. If it isn’t time, focus on other stuff first 💪🏻💪🏻
@@Arkayne that earns so much respect, and from me personally (and hopefully many others) a lot of future business for the overall value and inspiration you provide.
Got my high spec PVS-14's about 2 years ago with a10 year warranty !!! Could not be happier !!! Recently got my LAM ! Just do it Folks !!!!!
L3's or Elbit?
Either way how have they been long term for you?
I'm a recent purchaser and like to hear how other's who have had their's longer have felt about their time with their nods.
@@manscapedgrinch1427 High spec whites,L3's,almost 2 years,10 year warranty, purchased from Ready Made Resources, very happy with purchase !!!!
@@hdrvman L3's are where it's at
I love my Night vision gear, so much fun and great capability but not one single friend has any so it sucks when there is no one to go out with. but I guess such is life LOL.
Bruh, same ahaha
Awesome video. 👍🏻👍🏻
Glad you enjoyed 👊
Y’all offer afirm to buy noods? I’m not saying I’d finance nvgs but for some people it might work out
They do use affirm
I purchased my PVS-14 through them and used the affirm. I agree, it's better to just buy cash though.
@@joshm3297 i get the interest rate initially but i think since i have expendable money coming my way this would be a good option for me to get the ball rolling right now and just pay it off in a few months. how was the process?
Hopefully i win your giveaway and i don't have to worry about it lol!
Fingers crossed!
probably much much cheaper to install some construction lights around your property with polycarbonate covers around the bulbs to absorb bullet impacts
You echo many of my thoughts about civ night vision.
Folks should really buy NV only if:
A. Other kit and baseline training is squared away.
B. You can afford it without going into debt, and or draining their family vacation fund, kid'(s) college funds, etc.
C. If you know you'll have the TIME INVESTMENT to devote to training to achieve the minimum competency to actually engage an opponent.
Note: This is training time *on top of* the time you are already devoting to daylight training. One can't really replace the other; these are two different skill sets.
D. If you know that you have access to a range or land that allows for low light/night shooting (not as common as you might think).
E. You have other team mates who are also NV equipped (don't get sucked into this lone wolf operator nonsense).
If even one of these elements is missing, IMO, you should seriously rethink spending the money and focus on more productive time/money investments.
As with everything else, be realistic about the likelihood you will have to use this. Don't invest this kind of money based upon some kind of movie plot you've conjured in your head or pipedream goonsquad aspirations that have little chance of happening in real life on planet Earth.
Great video. Thanks
Dont go out for coffee every single day,well said
Yeah people spend essentially one PVS14 worth of unnecessary crap per year. No joke.
As always... Mega based, honest, and loving (philia & agape, of selfless charity and willing the good of the other) advice to help others prepare and prioritize investments in gear and training.
Good use of that Agape brother. That's another thing missing from the second amendment community is philosophical and spiritual enlightenment. 🙏Take care friend
A bought a pvs 14 because I will probably never be able to afford a house, made since to buy something I could actually kinda sorta manage to afford
It’s time ‘night vision’ tech gets implemented into wrap around ‘protection goggles with 180°+ angle of views’ … the extreme narrow angle of view can be deadly … for you.
I have a clear objective to go broke, night vision, helmet and mounts.....mission accomplished...
You know, I got the COD Ghost VIP package that has the night vision headset and Statue in the collectors set. I'm not gonna lie. That night vision set is actually really well made and functional. I figured it was just going to be some type of janky Walmart prop like thing, but I've used it many times night hunting for hog and even my friends with proper night vision are impressed with it
I have everything checked off, aside from the fiscal position. My personal finances are tight after a few surprises earlier this year. However, I think NVGs are a must, especially if you live in an urban area. NVG30 looks like the first affordable digital solution that offers any real practicality. So I just took that plunge.
"Night vision and armor... is as much your right as owning a firearm." Tell that to our f$@#ing governor in Moscow on the Hudson.
Hahahahahah. Have A pistol and A rifle. That’s funny But I’m still not ready to spend 10k$ on night vision.
I bought a build kit, just before a unexpected financial setback happened and now I have no intensifier and a bunch of parts......... God has a sense of humor. I support you guys 100%. I plan to purchase a tube sometime next year. I wish you had a layaway program.
Best way to get into NV is to get a PVS-7 secondhand ($1300-1600) or GP PVS-14 ($2300-2800). Don't let people gaslight you into taking out a second mortgage to pay for WP duals initially. NV holds its value and if it comes time for you to upgrade, you can sell your original set for like 90% of what you bought it for.
I'm an airborne infantry veteran, sample size of one, but I prefer an extremely high spec PVS-14 over budget duals at the $4000 price point.
Agreed. And I will add this for prospective buyers....Do not look through high end tubes if you plan on buying low/moderate end units because you will be disappointed. I got a chance to look through L3's latest & greatest commercially available tubes.....and would not be satisfied with buying anything less than.
Need help getting 300black barrel from veritas do t think they no longer make them
Was really hoping this was a video helping me pick which routes to go when picking tubes hope you guys make one cuz I need help haha
We have a solid documentary in the works that will 100% answer all your questions. It will take time to finish though.
For now you could email us at CS@Arkayne.com and we can set up a call if you need help nailing down your unit!
Awesome appreciate what you guys are doing!!
When? Land and animals is next. 🐄 🐓 🐎
I truly believe digital is going to take over tubes in the near future. The exact same thing happened in the motion picture industry. Film was overtaken by digital. Just a matter of time. Moore's Law
Let's hope the digital night vision guys don't try to jump on the extremely high-priced train. At least the analog night vision manufacturers can justify their prices based on the high cost of making just one analog tube. I'm not too hopeful about this though seeing that Sionyx priced the Opsin at the price of a PVS-14 which is ridiculous.
Look at the old tvs and the digital tvs. The refresh rate on a flat panel is super fast. Its matter of time now.
You aren’t wrong. And weve handled units that nobody else in this nation has seen. It is coming, but it’s not what everyone thinks it will be.
It will be ridiculously expensive at first, because the tech doesn’t exist in mass manufacturing. Once it’s mass produced, it will get less expensive, but for reasons we legally can’t even discuss, it will still be very expensive when you first experience it.
@@Arkayne Didn't Micr0s0ft come up with something ? Please do not violate your NDA
@Arkayne Co anything that is groundbreaking and brand-new is going to be expensive. The difference ultimately will be that the price will come down because of competition. Right now, we know where tubes come from. Same reason why thermal keeps getting cheaper and better. Once tube technology gets out of the way and digital gets better it will just make it easier and easier for new companies to pop up. Competition is the best thing for the consumer.
Buy once cry once
👍🏾👍🏾👍🏾👍🏾🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸
Be a goon and 3d print them
Looking back on my cost:
Photonis Vyper 4G green 6400
Wendy bump Helmet, mount, headset w/ comm compatibility, Surefire x300V on Kinetic LOLA, admin light, NERD: 1965ish
Rifle with Ripcord rail, MAWL, LED ACOG and Steiner MPS on top: 6500ish(7500 w/ can in ATF jail)
I have a spare 10.3 with a holosun LS321G and aimpoint, surefire vampire, etc.
This makes me sick to my stomach how much it all cost.
It gets stupid expensive. This doesn't include like they said the training, food supplies, handguns, ammo storage, life.
I never went into debt for any of this. Being debt free will allow you to buy some stupid fun stuff.
I sold a PVS14 and a Tudor black bay 58 plus extra gun stuff to buy the nods without any money out of pocket for duals.
Title should say... "How to afford, modern competitive night vision"...
Any thoughts on going with a nocturn tanto then bridging them as your working towards binos(two tantos)? Hesitant to buy a pvs-14 knowing ill lose money selling it for binos
I know this is slightly off topic but does running something like a pvs 14 on one eye and thermal on the other cause problems I know some people like it others say it can cause Sevier head aches
If you want it, get it when you can, because NV is not going to get any cheaper. The price precedent has already been set. This equipment doesn't follow the typical downward price trend of normal consumer electronics.
I just turned 21 and got nv last year and Did it debt free, it’s expensive but man is it worth it, I was actually doing some night hunting last night and man is it satisfying shooting a moving rabbit with an IR laser under nods.
"I am never gonna financially recover from this" - Tiger King.
You will! You just need to lay out a solid game plan first 👊👊
@@Arkayne Already run a 14 with a bridge to thermal. Buyed and cried already but happy to have it. It's like having Predator vision.
Already is when you should buy nvg. don't forget the thermal and the training though.
Very solid points and ones that I've lived by through my journey as a gun owner. Keep up the good content.
I finally bought a pvs14 after saving up for a half a year and it was completely worth it
When it falls off a truck.
Spot on in so many ways!!
Thanks
My first night vision goggles were panos. I didn't have the pockets for thr the GPNVG 18 but I did get the QTNVG. I did purchase L3 Harris Gen 3 white phosphor, filmless tubes. All 4 tubes were around 2400 FOM. They cost me $13,000. After purchasing the housing and assembly they ran me, $21,500. I still need an IR laser though. I want to ditch the QTNVG housing for the Nocturn Industries Chimera Panoramic goggles. I cant wait for them to be available.
Gotta' ask...Why???? Why would you sink 21grand on a panos set-up and not even have an IR laser yet???? Panos when the highest spec dual set-up would be more than enough with $$ left over to buy your IR laser....and whatever else. No matter how justified, panos don't offer a significant increase in capabilities over duals that warrant the cost difference for the average civ dude. And some would make the same argument with duals against 14's. Nonetheless, I'd take duals over an empty wallet and neck strain any day...but...it's your money.
@@billydanzz I haven't gotten an ir laser yet as I'm still deciding. I just got them back a month ago. I may have to go with the B.E. Meyers Mawl. I don't want to spend the money yet as I still need a place to shoot and I just purchased the new Sig rifle in an auction that has my wallet on life support.
No neck strain for me. I wore them for about 5-6 hours at a time and my neck has been okay. Maybe that's not enough time to feel any real strain.
I just have the mentality of I would rather spend 5 times the money on something I really want than a 5th of the price on something that I don't really care for. The 1st time I saw panos, I was immediately interested. Monoculars and binos never had that effect on me. I will eventually buy maybe a pvs14 at some point for training.
@@santanagamingcinema Gotcha'. Sounds like you put a lot of thought into it and being satisfied is all that matters. Cheers.
Kick us an email and we’d be happy to walk you through the laser options. CS@Arkayne.com
As a general rule you can find good night vision for about $1,000 per generation. You can get an aviation grade gen 3 white phosphor for about $3200 if you go with a pvs 14 and there are Chinese PEQ15 clones that are full power and durable for about $350. Level 3a helmets only cost a few hundred dollars as well. Boom full NV setup for about 4k.
Yes sir. 14's are an excellent option and the Chinese lasers are good for a hobbyist and training. That being said there is no way I would trust my life or my buddy's lives with one. I guess it just all depends on your reasons for possessing the kit. Having professional tools does not make one a professional, but all professionals have professional tools. To each their own.