I run two of these with 1 DDA in my list. I think you missed the key reason I run them. True line of sight and therefore ignoring obscuring rules. With the new piece of terrain and the centre staging pieces it really keeps your opponent honest. Another reason for running 2 is I have good odds of hitting at least one six a turn increasing the average output nicely
Does the “ATAVISTIC INSTIGATION” ability grant 5+ crit hits for other friendly necron units other than itself that target that same unit? If so i feel like this is why it’s so many points for that utility.
Strats usually go with "select a unit that has not been selected to shot this turn" so you have to use the strategem first, only after that you can target the enemy unit with the weapon. I might actually get one of those just for the looks. Allready got an admech flappy bird so might aswell add the croissant of death.
Aircraft can see over terrain usiung True line of sight. This means they are vulnerable but it means that enemy units staging where they feel safe can still be hit. Not to be sniufffed at.
Only thing I don't think you touched on is the flier LoS basically like old titanic so it can shoot at basically anything on the table. even things that are behind ruins in weird places. I think both our fliers need the Hover Keyword. And maybe a little off on the points for the doomscythe but thats about it.
Enslaved Artifice needs to be selected before you select the Doom Scythe to shoot whilst the decision your opponent needs to make comes after they’ve been selected as a target so you couldn’t get both unless the opponent actively chooses to let you.
Nailed every talking point as it has been said for the last 3 years. It's just not worth it. It's a one-trick pony. And without trying to justify why I use it, every person I play sees the two of them sitting off the table side and wondering when their Doom will fall. 230/460 60 is absolutely brutal. I will gladly put my monolith into a play rather than them in every detachment but I actually have to give myself pause when looking at the hypercrypt. Appreciate your time guys. Love watching every one of them. Cheers -Alpharious-
@WorHammer40k I just opened a drawer on my entertainment stand and found a boxed Hexmark and doomstalker... 😢 On to the stack of shame they go. You guys are a great time. Cheers -Alpharious-
It's too expensive. Maybe at 190, I'd think about it. 165-175 it becomes interesting. I really hope they just redo how aircraft interact with the game..... or they just remove the option I guess. The way they are now, they're basically not part of the game anyways.
The only thing that does more damage than that heavy death ray was the pronunciation of croissant. It does seem like a very swingy weapon though, sustained hits D3 and damage D6+1? I rolled some dice and it's all over the place.
I run 3 with the silent king. Spider ,dda deceiver,and some flayed ones. 3-0 at 3 rtts, 5-1 and 4-1 at two gts. It tables players. And Melee armies cry.
@WorHammer40k I run it Hypercrypt. The idea with it is you use the Flayed ones to screen out the the middle from infiltrates. Maybe bluff a shooting lane with the dda. Aggressively deploy the deciver. Redeploy the flayed ones to a safe passion if needed. Keep the spider in range of silent king and dda. Turns 1 and 2 is where you kill anything that can hurt the planes. Then 3,4,5 you kill anything on an objective while the small units score secondary. Generally keeping the planes near the silent king for the rerolls or ignor mods.bruh what? (2000 points) Necrons Strike Force (2000 points) Hypercrypt Legion CHARACTERS C’tan Shard of the Deceiver (265 points) • 1x Cosmic insanity 1x Golden fists Hexmark Destroyer (95 points) • 1x Close combat weapon 1x Enmitic disintegrator pistols • Enhancement: Dimensional Overseer The Silent King (420 points) • 1x Szarekh • Warlord • 1x Sceptre of Eternal Glory 1x Staff of Stars 1x Weapons of the Final Triarch • 2x Triarchal Menhir • 2x Annihilator beam 2x Armoured bulk BATTLELINE Immortals (75 points) • 5x Immortal • 5x Close combat weapon 5x Gauss blaster OTHER DATASHEETS Canoptek Spyders (75 points) • 1x Automaton claws Doom Scythe (230 points) • 1x Armoured bulk 1x Heavy death ray 1x Twin tesla destructor Doom Scythe (230 points) • 1x Armoured bulk 1x Heavy death ray 1x Twin tesla destructor Doom Scythe (230 points) • 1x Armoured bulk 1x Heavy death ray 1x Twin tesla destructor Doomsday Ark (190 points) • 1x Armoured bulk 1x Doomsday cannon 2x Gauss flayer array Flayed Ones (60 points) • 5x Flayed One • 5x Flayer claws Flayed Ones (60 points) • 5x Flayed One • 5x Flayer claws Lokhust Destroyers (35 points) • 1x Close combat weapon 1x Gauss cannon Lokhust Destroyers (35 points) • 1x Close combat weapon 1x Gauss cannon Exported with App Version: v1.22.1 (57), Data Version: v488
I run this when i can because it is a big thing killer that is threatening the board i have dropped a tau tiger shark with it while tanking so many others it is just good for getting around the board to do final clean up on big things then to sweep the little guys
see that's what I thought, I have a Scarab swarm which also has zero OC and the friends also learning the game said they understood it as can take objectives just can't hold objective if another unit is on it. that's a little bit frustrating. but was there an enhancement or ability that gave +1 to OC to all necrons on the board?
I want this model because it looks so damn cool. Also can transport my favorite immortal buddies around while hypercrypting on enemies corpse Edit: i know nothing. Living in la la land, swear i heard someone tell me immortals can transport out of it Edit Edit: IM NOT CRAZY, its the night scythe that can transport immortals. Not the DOOM scythe. Wasnt aware their are multiple build options
@@TeEZyClapZ- yes, 2 builds! At the moment the Night Scythe is better, in our opinion. For transporting Immortals like you say. But you can magnetise the mini so you can make both units from one model
@WorHammer40k magnetize is the next hurdle im going to attempt at clearing. Definitely the way to go on all models if you can. One balance update and your miniature feels worthless. Love the channel, just starting on my 40k journey. You guys help a ton with different strategies and overall in depth look at units. 1 video recommendation, explain cover to n00bs. Along the lines of 10 man brick, 5 are in cover..... now what? 😆
I run two of these with 1 DDA in my list. I think you missed the key reason I run them. True line of sight and therefore ignoring obscuring rules. With the new piece of terrain and the centre staging pieces it really keeps your opponent honest. Another reason for running 2 is I have good odds of hitting at least one six a turn increasing the average output nicely
Love these vids my wife is building a necron army and i love sending here all of these for ideas
@@myersmayhem2023 ah, thank you! And send our regards to your wife - clearly she has great taste 😁
Doom Croissant is life.
I run two of these with 1 DDA in my list. I think you missed the key reason I run them. True line of sight and therefore ignoring obscuring rules.
With the new piece of terrain and the centre staging pieces it really keeps your opponent honest.
Another reason for running 2 is I have good odds of hitting at least one six a turn increasing the average output nicely
Does the “ATAVISTIC INSTIGATION” ability grant 5+ crit hits for other friendly necron units other than itself that target that same unit? If so i feel like this is why it’s so many points for that utility.
@@Tyler-n6e rules as written, yes it works for other units
Strats usually go with "select a unit that has not been selected to shot this turn" so you have to use the strategem first, only after that you can target the enemy unit with the weapon.
I might actually get one of those just for the looks. Allready got an admech flappy bird so might aswell add the croissant of death.
@@ItsMrZeth it is a very cool model!
I would love to see your takes on Convergence Of Dominion
@@electratix funnily enough we were talking about that recently!
One of my favourite flyers, really want to paint one. Great round up lads
@@Mark.Matthews we'd love to see you paint one, mate!
Le croissant! One of my favourite looking units and when it rolls well it really slaps but I agree with you guys the price is just too high
@JecRon-40k with my rolling mate it's crap! Haha
@WorHammer40k 😂😂😂
Aircraft can see over terrain usiung True line of sight. This means they are vulnerable but it means that enemy units staging where they feel safe can still be hit. Not to be sniufffed at.
@@michaelbolton2202 very true
Only thing I don't think you touched on is the flier LoS basically like old titanic so it can shoot at basically anything on the table. even things that are behind ruins in weird places. I think both our fliers need the Hover Keyword. And maybe a little off on the points for the doomscythe but thats about it.
The line of sight is a good shout. Points drop is defo still needed before we see this more.
Enslaved Artifice needs to be selected before you select the Doom Scythe to shoot whilst the decision your opponent needs to make comes after they’ve been selected as a target so you couldn’t get both unless the opponent actively chooses to let you.
@@jbw065 yes, that's a very good point of order
This thing in crusade is nasty.
@@Notachupacabra it has a lot of firepower
Nailed every talking point as it has been said for the last 3 years.
It's just not worth it. It's a one-trick pony.
And without trying to justify why I use it, every person I play sees the two of them sitting off the table side and wondering when their Doom will fall.
230/460 60 is absolutely brutal. I will gladly put my monolith into a play rather than them in every detachment but I actually have to give myself pause when looking at the hypercrypt.
Appreciate your time guys. Love watching every one of them.
Cheers
-Alpharious-
@@beatooze8025 thank you!
@WorHammer40k I just opened a drawer on my entertainment stand and found a boxed Hexmark and doomstalker... 😢 On to the stack of shame they go.
You guys are a great time.
Cheers
-Alpharious-
It's too expensive. Maybe at 190, I'd think about it. 165-175 it becomes interesting. I really hope they just redo how aircraft interact with the game..... or they just remove the option I guess. The way they are now, they're basically not part of the game anyways.
@@brendancoster4514 fully agree - and thank you for being a regular contributor.
@@WorHammer40k You guys have had some gems I've used in my games, so thank you! #necrondomination
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The only thing that does more damage than that heavy death ray was the pronunciation of croissant. It does seem like a very swingy weapon though, sustained hits D3 and damage D6+1? I rolled some dice and it's all over the place.
@@Wineblood it is super swingy, aye. And that is the only correct pronunciation of croissant! 😁
I run 3 with the silent king. Spider ,dda deceiver,and some flayed ones. 3-0 at 3 rtts, 5-1 and 4-1 at two gts. It tables players. And Melee armies cry.
@@gingerfury47 that is a really interesting list - and congrats on its success! What detachment are you running?
@WorHammer40k I run it Hypercrypt. The idea with it is you use the Flayed ones to screen out the the middle from infiltrates. Maybe bluff a shooting lane with the dda. Aggressively deploy the deciver. Redeploy the flayed ones to a safe passion if needed. Keep the spider in range of silent king and dda. Turns 1 and 2 is where you kill anything that can hurt the planes. Then 3,4,5 you kill anything on an objective while the small units score secondary. Generally keeping the planes near the silent king for the rerolls or ignor mods.bruh what? (2000 points)
Necrons
Strike Force (2000 points)
Hypercrypt Legion
CHARACTERS
C’tan Shard of the Deceiver (265 points)
• 1x Cosmic insanity
1x Golden fists
Hexmark Destroyer (95 points)
• 1x Close combat weapon
1x Enmitic disintegrator pistols
• Enhancement: Dimensional Overseer
The Silent King (420 points)
• 1x Szarekh
• Warlord
• 1x Sceptre of Eternal Glory
1x Staff of Stars
1x Weapons of the Final Triarch
• 2x Triarchal Menhir
• 2x Annihilator beam
2x Armoured bulk
BATTLELINE
Immortals (75 points)
• 5x Immortal
• 5x Close combat weapon
5x Gauss blaster
OTHER DATASHEETS
Canoptek Spyders (75 points)
• 1x Automaton claws
Doom Scythe (230 points)
• 1x Armoured bulk
1x Heavy death ray
1x Twin tesla destructor
Doom Scythe (230 points)
• 1x Armoured bulk
1x Heavy death ray
1x Twin tesla destructor
Doom Scythe (230 points)
• 1x Armoured bulk
1x Heavy death ray
1x Twin tesla destructor
Doomsday Ark (190 points)
• 1x Armoured bulk
1x Doomsday cannon
2x Gauss flayer array
Flayed Ones (60 points)
• 5x Flayed One
• 5x Flayer claws
Flayed Ones (60 points)
• 5x Flayed One
• 5x Flayer claws
Lokhust Destroyers (35 points)
• 1x Close combat weapon
1x Gauss cannon
Lokhust Destroyers (35 points)
• 1x Close combat weapon
1x Gauss cannon
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@gingerfury47 that looks amazing! Thank you for sharing; we might have to try this out
@WorHammer40k I have 3 more tournaments this month I can keep the community updated on the list record
@@gingerfury47 yes pls - and good luck
This models more just for a bit of fun i think , its less annoying to move than the DDA but has that nice damage.
@@Husker5454 aye great in fun games for sure
I run this when i can because it is a big thing killer that is threatening the board i have dropped a tau tiger shark with it while tanking so many others it is just good for getting around the board to do final clean up on big things then to sweep the little guys
@@riggels330 nice! How do you keep it alive?
@WorHammer40k running hypercrypt with the strat for giving it a 4up invulnerable or in awaken using the strat to reanimate
croissant of death
@@mayney1222 best croissant
Do you think they meant to remove 10pts from the doomsday scythe and mistakenly took them from the doomsday ark?
@@A-McDrae hahaha that's a great shout actually!
This is what we need. Drop the poiiiints
@@poporowyo yessss!
so does 0 OC mean you can't take objectives with that modle or does it mean you can Contest objectives with that modle?
@@EpicAwesomeYo it means you can't do either
Can't do actions either 😭
see that's what I thought, I have a Scarab swarm which also has zero OC and the friends also learning the game said they understood it as can take objectives just can't hold objective if another unit is on it. that's a little bit frustrating. but was there an enhancement or ability that gave +1 to OC to all necrons on the board?
I want this model because it looks so damn cool. Also can transport my favorite immortal buddies around while hypercrypting on enemies corpse
Edit: i know nothing. Living in la la land, swear i heard someone tell me immortals can transport out of it
Edit Edit: IM NOT CRAZY, its the night scythe that can transport immortals. Not the DOOM scythe. Wasnt aware their are multiple build options
@@TeEZyClapZ- yes, 2 builds! At the moment the Night Scythe is better, in our opinion. For transporting Immortals like you say.
But you can magnetise the mini so you can make both units from one model
@WorHammer40k magnetize is the next hurdle im going to attempt at clearing. Definitely the way to go on all models if you can. One balance update and your miniature feels worthless.
Love the channel, just starting on my 40k journey. You guys help a ton with different strategies and overall in depth look at units.
1 video recommendation, explain cover to n00bs. Along the lines of 10 man brick, 5 are in cover..... now what? 😆
Either give it the Hover keyword or cut it's costs.
@@mushwar5455 fully agree
Flying death croissant! 🛫 ☠️ 🥐 😂
Against world eaters 😂
@@Gotham_Media savage 😂
All for 9 hits on overwatch!)
@@evgenijvalamin6473 getting a 6 on the death ray in overwatch is so funny
I run two of these with 1 DDA in my list. I think you missed the key reason I run them. True line of sight and therefore ignoring obscuring rules.
With the new piece of terrain and the centre staging pieces it really keeps your opponent honest.
Another reason for running 2 is I have good odds of hitting at least one six a turn increasing the average output nicely
@@philipwells7415 aye that's a good call on firing lanes, especially with the new central terrain as you say