2023 Sur Ron Ultra Bee Full Test and Review - Why I'm Buying This Bike
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- Опубліковано 21 сер 2024
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The silence of these things i think is a huge under rated plus. Me and my brother rip trails while having conversations and no one bothers us
I think trail bikes are the future of E motorcycle. Light, practical and way to own.
Yes, especially since trails are being closed down because of noise and pollution.
I bought a Surron Ultra Bee about 2months ago and I love it. It is super light with plenty of grunt. A friend has a ten acre property just near town and he also owns a Ultra Bee so we set up a track. None of his nearby neighbours complain about noise because these bikes are quiet and they run for hours on a single charge. Long enough to wear me out. The brake are very strong and the suspension is good.
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I picked up an Ultra Bee last week. I couldn't be happier.
I am selling my gas dirt bike now because I don't need it anymore. The Surron is so flickable, so light and immediate torque...and no clutch or stalling. It is so easy to ride.
You ride single track? For far will the ultra bee get you?
@@gregsun247 Between 40 - 50 km trail riding. Less if I am on more open stuff and going faster.
i Have about 100miles on the Ultra Bee now and i absolutely love it! So much fun out in the woods! Great video! Cheers from Sweden!
I have a Storm bee and absolutely love it, use it mainly for my daily commute and get more range then expected riding solid 40-50 mph most of the time with the occasional full throttle pull after clocking 60 miles I usually have 30% battery left, also love to be able to go Offroad and pretty much tackle everything I want and do it in silence which is priceless in my opinion, love the basically no maintenance and simplicity of use,....I have just about 6000 miles on the bike and tires and a new chain is the only thing I have done to the bike, the Storm bee take a coolant and a gear oil change but it's minimal and super simple,
As batteries improve as they will pretty fast, range will also improve dramatically, performance is phenomenal with a 0-60 in just over 4 seconds and a 75 mph top speed and butter smooth no heat ride.
Your review is spot on. I've owned a Storm Bee since Nov 2021 and an Ultra Bee since February 2023. We live in the mountains, off-road but with grid electricity. We're actually quite far from petrol stations but can recharge at home. I love both bikes for different reasons. They complement each other. However, I ride the Ultra Bee more because I ride very steep, technical mountain terrain near my home (a yurt camp). The Storm Bee is better on hard packed tracks which are in the valleys where I live.
I'm not keen on the idea of the upgrade to 21/18 wheel sets and tires. They are crazy expensive but if you have money to throw away, why not? You might get better handling but lose a lot of performance. Then need a new rear sprocket and chain. If anything, I want to strip my Ultra Bee down and make it lighter still.
I just changed the back tire to a more aggressive Motoz Tractionator 90/100-19". It's not much heavier but has much more aggressive knobs for loam. I did add KTM full wrap hand guards because I smashed the Ultra Bee's stock ones.
FYI I put 18/21 on my ultra bee and couldn’t be happier:) it didn’t rob any power and I didn’t change the sprocket. This bike actually really needs this upgrade. The 19 on front is to small, it causes the front to wash out.
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Light Bee's too small for me, this one looks perfect. Congrats, hope you enjoy it
Thanks! Yes, this feels like a typical 125-150.
I'm up in North Bay, just got one a week ago. Totally love this thing, not intimidated by any trail on it. I rode 60 km to 22% battery mostly on eco doing closer to 50 kmh.
Surprised how versatile it is. The slow speed is amazing, it's like you can go 1 kmh riding the pegs. But crank it and wow does it rip.
Definitely studding my tires for late fall, may consider the snow kit for it.
Yeah man, you’re right, this ultra bee might be what I’m looking for.
One of these is certainly in my future. Already sold my DRZ400 and just waiting until after we move. Can't be soon enough! Thanks for the review! Just more confirms my choice!
Congrats on the new ride! I would get one for sure if I was going to get just a trail bike, or even an around town bike. For now my DR650 fits my needs.
Nice to see a new brand pushing the competition and expanding the options for us riders!
Thanks! For sure, Sur Ron is starting to be a force in the motorcycling world.
I’d have one for a run around the trail and an awesome pit bike as well. As a pit bike it’ll stay cool as you idle around the pits then you can go rip it in a field or an empty industrial park on a Sunday or something
Thanks for this. I've been thinking an electric dirt bike is the way to go, this one looks like a winner!
i think this will be my next toy, i wanted a E bike but i can use the ones at work, thanks for the video !
Many of my friends in my dirt bike group are very interested in the electric developments. I don’t know that the me an guys would give up our 2 strokes, but it seems a lot of us would like an electric in addition.
Great review, I want one even more now. I have a 390ADV and the more off-road I ride, the more I want a better off-road bike. So it sounds like I'm similar to you. Hope to get one soon.
Yes, you’ll find a huge difference off road. To me, the lighter the better on dirt.
Had mine for a week and already binned it good! Its such a nice bike, especially considering its like half the price of its E competitors. Cant wait to get back out this weekend!
Love mine!!! You got a new subscriber. I’m in.
With about 2k in add ons it’s the perfect set up. Trail riding is amazing on it.
Where did you pick it up? I'm also in WA.
@@dukegnarley All Sport Racing in Spokane.
Thank you this was just the review I was looking for.
Perfect allrounder
This looks awesome!
I’m looking at both the Ultra and Storm bees, they look interesting. I wonder if the storm bee’s extra 100lbs is justified by the extra power.
I look forward to watching a long term owner’s review, as well as comparisons to similar bikes.
Its not get the ultra bee!
Thanks! The Storm Bee comes with better wheels and more power but a bit less range.
This may be something I'd personally look into. I test rode a zero dualsport a couple years ago and I thought it was awesome. It had a price at 10k.
I threw a link to your last ebike review on Revzilla's last upload. Ryan F9 was the guest. Good company, if you ask me.
You can barely get a budget E-mtn bike for that price. I’ve seen some listed north of $15k loons !
As for motos, I’ll stick to fossil fuels for now, but you’re making a compelling case here.
Yes, a light two stroke is still practical but it’s the gas bikes that makes people lobby to close down the trails. Where I live there are fewer and fewer unfortunately.
Its all relative. It's all good for 3 hours if you're not riding hard terrain, don't need to go to far and are light-weight (weight plays a big factor for bat life). That will suit a small percentage of riders but not many. Wouldn't consider an e bike as i don't fit into any of the above categories. Again, its all relative hence, they won't be the future in their current form but may be the futre for some.
I like motor bikes, enjoy this one. 😊
Sounds and looks like a great bike. I wish I could have one too. 😊
I own a surron light bee since april 2021. These bikes are perfect for me and ultra bee seems even better. But the range is a huge problem. I wish they could last for at least 150km or they could be charged in half an hour. At current technology the fun they are offering is too bounded.
Why not just an electric mountain bike? I am sure you thought of that since you are a cyclist. Your thoughts please? Keep up the great work. Dave from Nova SCotia
@EBMX out of Australia just came out with a larger battery’s and controller that doubles the stock numbers. So no need to swap batteries mid ride.
For only $2500 US dollars
@@tonyrichengod9280 what did you find that info? I thought I saw $5500?
Amazing review, thanks!
nice review man! Might try to pick up a used model in a few years, already have the light-bee. When I first seen the terrain, I was like, that's familiar terrain, he's definitely not in Russia...then you mentioned cottage in central Ontario... guess I know my geography :) where about exactly do you ride?
Great review I have one on order now. One concern I have about the bike though is where do you get OEM replacement parts? For my ICE dirt bike, I can go get a diagram of every single part on the bike, and add the part to a cart. I haven't been able to find anything like that for my Lite Bee X or the Ultra Bee.
Somebody is going to make long range saddle bag batteries or clip on side batteries tanks then I could be in! These could be quickly removed for off road stuff and clipped back on for the ride home.
Great idea.
Don't put bar risers on it, just ride it like a dirt bike instead of an adv. Bike.
The best accessory for this bike is probably a trailer or pick-up truck to transport it to a trail head or fire road.
Yep, the truck is a necessity but most two strokes have fairly limited range as well.
@@DifferentSpokesTV - Battery technology will gradually improve the e-bike's practicality for road travel, and wilderness hikers/campers will certainly appreciate its quietness. I can't wait until e-Harleys dominate at Sturgis. :-)
This looks to be so light that any POS hitch mounted motorcycle carrier will work.
Great video! Any idea who sells the 21/18 wheel combo in Canada?
Interesting review 🤔
Looks like you need to play with your Insta settings to get rid of the shake 👍
Huh. My electric bike gets more mileage if I DON'T do a bunch of start/stops. It doesn't use the same power to maintain speed as it does to get it going. I'll take a slightly longer route if I can avoid intersections ....to SAVE charge.
To E, or not to E ... that is the question.
I really wish one of the Japanese companies would make an electric bike or the trails for the 37 inch seat.
love it ultra bee rocks
Did you order one? I have some coming. Can’t wait
When you upgrade the wheels you end up wanting to upgraded battery/controller. The bike doesn’t feel as good as soon as you start putting extra weight on it
He chose...wisely.
Can you enduro this bike in Ontario?
Yay - cool. Feels like when Mr Ford started some damn new 'sumthin....
Too close to Xtrainer price for me. I did like the bike but unless its cheaper I'll stick with my dual sport (all 300 enduro bikes can be road registered in Australia
I see people riding through water, but I am worried about doing this with an e-bike. I know this would cause electric car batteries to catch on fire repeatedly. are there any issues with water crossings on an e-bike?
These are going to kill the gas powered trail bike market and that's not a bad thing.
Can you dual sport it? As long as range is accounted for.
Trial and electric, can't find better combination aside of electric and city road
How are the hill climbing/descending manners?
I want one.
Yeah, the numbers that e-motorcycle companies like to quote about their horsepower and torque are borderline intentionally deceptive, considering what the common motorcycle buyer is used to seeing and understanding.
Myths:
-Electric motorcycles do not generate full torque at 0 rpm, and not even at low speed. If they would be programmed to do that, electrical equipment would be taxed with heat and the motorcycle would be unrideable (flip over backwards).
-The ridiculous torque numbers they quote are difficult for the common person to understand, because comparing an e-bike to a ice-bike is not a 1:1 situation due to all gearing reductions from a combustion engine to the wheel vs. the reduction of an electric motor to the wheel. People don't realize how powerful a combustion engine is when all the power is reduced through the transmission in 1st gear to the rear wheel. It's VERY high torque.
-Of course the EV companies are going to quote the absolute best electrical range their machine will achieve. It's "good" marketing, even if it has no relevance to the majority of buyers/users.
-EV's are not that clean. They are not a pollution reducer. The overall impact on the planet that Ev's have is actually worse until some pretty high mileage, which I doubt very much the average EV owner will ever achieve.
Finally, EV's low maintenance is mostly traded for high cost. You stop changing oil, filters, plugs, air filters, and the like...... but you trade that time and small cost for a big chunk of up-front money, and if you keep it long enough, a big chunk of battery-replacement money. You still have to change tires, drive components, bearings, any coolant that might be involved.
EV companies can jack around all the factors endlessly to have the customer believe they are doing better or well to buy an alternative system, but in the end, it's not really that much different. Trading time for big dollars. It's easy enough to acquire aluminum, steel, rubber, wires, a few computer boards, and plastic to make a motorcycle. It's not easy enough to acquire a ton of lithium, cobalt, and a host of highly toxic chemicals to make batteries, and then end up using the existing (already taxed) electrical grid powered by gas, coal, and nuclear to power it. Also recycling common combustion vehicles is easy and readily reusable. Not so much with lithium batteries. The operation risk between a combustion bike and an EV is quite different as well. Get a fire started in a lithium battery, may as well run off a distance and watch it burn to the ground because you won't put it out.
Good points and I made a video on the shortcomings of e-motorcycles a while back. But for the dirt I’d rather ride electric. The riding dynamics agree with me and the neighbours aren’t going to try to close the trails because of noise.
@@DifferentSpokesTV There's a fit proposition for various people no doubt about it.
Buy it Beta 390
What are the rules about making a SurRon street legal in Ontario?
Probably signals and tail lights. A dealer is the best person to ask.
You can add the pedal kit and make sure you stay under 32 km on the road. That way you wouldn't need a licence, insurance or registration. You'd still have to add signals, lights, mirrors and a horn..... but no monthly fees. Then when you get to the trails, let'er rip.
What is your height and weight if you dont mind sharing?
I'm a little delayed but didn't you watch what everyone else watched? Height & weight is mentioned including inseam which I'd say is more relevant than height. Have a good one
How much would it take to make one street legal?
Just signals and a proper tail light it looks like.
Is this a sponsored channel?
expensive? no, its not expensive.
its horrendously super-duper insanely expensive
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i wish the surron was way cheaper than $8000.
Unfortunately all off-road bikes have gotten ridiculous since Covid.
@@DifferentSpokesTV hopefully one day I’ll be able to own a Sur Ron.
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no thanks
I was hoping to hear the bike. Your constant talking was not helpful
Electric dirt bikes and lawn tools yes. Electric cars and trucks no.
Agree.
Get to the d*mn point
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