BIGGEST Injury What Ifs NBA (2000s) Stunted Growth
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Injuries are no question the worst part of athletics. No fan wants to hear about or see them, and no player wants to experience them as their body is the tool in which they use to pay the bills and build a personal legacy. What that said, they happen, and they happen often enough that it changes not just the trajectory of the player’s career, but their entire generation, and the history of the game. They won't understand how good Derrick Rose was, that he could've been a top 5-10 player of all time. Or how much of a fit in the traditional sense Greg Oden was, making him a possible dominant force before injury. Or Brandon Roy, the NBA's next great shooting guard before he ran into his own injury bug. In this video I’d like to celebrate those players, while also talking about their injuries impact on the future and where their careers headed versus trajectory prior to those unfortunate injuries.
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3 of my favorite players that lost their possible hall of fame path to injury. No question Rose was headed to greatness, Oden was the last of a breed, and Roy already had Kobe's praise. Fun players to watch, but what I like is they all took it in stride and kept good attitudes about it throughout.
B roy was a dawg
This Iz TruE Yo 🫡to the Gods
Well....they were getting paid still, JC. I'd keep my attitude positive as well.
U very biased Westbrook was just as good as Rose maybe even better
I loved Greg Oden's game. He was so dominant and physical. He would literally dunk everything in the paint and block every shot
The true center, he was the last one not to be jacking up 1,000 3 pointers
He really had that potential to be the next Shaq out here, when he was in the paint it was a automatic dunk but unfortunately also came with his knees giving out tearing a major ligament
Shaun Livingston. If you saw him in HS, he was a freak of nature. Best passer I ever saw in HS.
That was a horrible injury and incredible come back
I had so much belief in Oden. I loved the center position as well. When he missed his initial rookie season and came back I still had very high hopes he could dominate. If he would've been healthy he would've challenged Dwight Howard in the late 00s and early 2010s for the title of best big man and defensive player of the year.
Oden Roy and Aldridge in my opinion is the biggest what if built team in the recent NBA. I’m sure they would’ve been able to have won the west at least once or twice in the early 2010’s
They were stacked don't forget jerryd bayless, batum, camby, Fernandez boy they was getting close
Derrick Rose was hands down the best PG i have ever seen in his prime. Any body his size wanted his skill set..
Derrick Rose was ok, he was in no way the best pg I have ever seen. In the playoffs against boston, Rondo looked better at the time.
@@williambrabston3045Derrick rose was definitely on his way to being one of the greatest players ever
@@williambrabston3045that’s why Rondo won MVP…
Watch the way you talk about Drose you casual
@@bf6639 yall are emotional lol... no he wasnt, he was nearly identical to Russ...
@@mosescarter5980 he was basically a Russell Westbrook... thats it.
The fact that two blazers are on here kills me. That mid 2000 squad could have been something. Greg Oden I was thinking about the other day and how he could have been a Joel embiid type. Everyone knows about Brandon Roy’s short legacy I’m sure. But them with Lamarcus alrdidge that could have been a championship squad. Additions of Andre miller and Gerald Wallace. A young batum and Wesley Mathew’s. man what could have been. Joel pryzbilla!!
B Roy was that dude in Portland miss watching him easily could’ve been top 5 sg off all time how he was going.
Brandon Roy had such a complete game definitely was first ballot hall of famer in the making.
If there’s one thing I hate in basketball, or just sports in general, it’s seeing star talent go down to major injury. Each moment of what happened to Rose, Roy, and Oden pains me. D. Rose and B. Roy were legit my favorite players during that era of the NBA. They were just stone cold killers on the floor, man. Too explosive and too clutch, respectively. And, I hate when people try calling Greg Oden a bust. He was never a bust. But, was rather dealt a bad hand and never got a fair shot to live out any part of his career healthy. He always showed signs of potential greatness to become the next great big man in the league. That 24 and 15 game is proof of that very thing. Greg Oden had it. He really had it. Respect to all three of those boys, regardless. Real ones know
People forget how good A'mare Stoudemire was before his first injury
Best big man out there for a short time. Him and pre weight loss Kevin Love imo
Facts he’s rarely mentioned in these “What ifs” he could have been a 30 ppg scorer as a Center/PF in the 2000s
Great video. Man at least we have an idea of what Derrick Rose and Brandon Roy would of been. Greg Oden though we never really got to see him do his thing a little here and there but not to the level of Rose amd Roy.
I really do believe he would of been a monster. Sad.
Would love to see a stunted growth episode about Omri Caspi. The warriors even gave him a ring and he's still only 34 right now so he could technically be playing, if not in the league then in europe or asia but instead he's retired and doing podcasts like a lot of vets.
Lol omri Caspi is the definition of guy who scratched and clawed for 7 years to be a 8-12th man. Not stunted growth that boy achieved more then I think anyone thought possible.
WHOOOOOOO???
Srsly this a joke or are you a big fan or possibly fellow native from same area? Lol
Derrick Rose injury was really unfortunate. Don’t know why the coach at the time played him late into the game.
Because Thibs doesn't trust his bench.
It was definitely unfortunate and thibbs terrible rotations definitely didn't help matters but if you understand biomechanics and anatomy derrick rose was pretty much destined for injury his extremely athleticism reliant play style along with his awful landing mechanics was just too much stress for one body to take
The score wasn't that of a blowout. 12 point lead with a minute plus is never safe in the playoffs
dr bryan shutter did videos on all three player sand he said the training they got was botched, and because of oden and rose's explosive playing they should of gotten lots of stretching and pull excersises on their legs ,and should of rested for hours after...
and had rose took more time off he would of never gotten his second knee injury
you even saw rose limping when he returned
he also said all three had deformiites in their legs which also caused the injuries (bow legged, longer leg than the other)
i am someone who has both and you definately need to get therapy and training for them type of issues because had three surgeries on my right knee and one on my left playing sports in my youth and need a cane because i was ignorant to that
Derrick Rose was epic with those hops!
I always said why was Drose still in the game I’m from Chicago and watched him play since a youngn he deserved to be the best.
Brandon Roy felt like a proto-Kawhi: the consummate NBA player. I had just missed seeing Derrick Rose play in college when Memphis was in C-USA. I was studying abroad at the time. By the time I get back stateside, I saw what all the fuss was about. His injury sucked because I couldn't believe what I was seeing before that. I was happy to see him drop 50 on the Wolves, though.
Greg Oden would have been amazing. You could see the potential in the few games he played.
D Rose was simply unbelievable. To think that ppl was big on Westbrook while post Rose injury but Westbrook was an after thought during the preinjury. Incredible talent.
if we talkin 00’s, shaun livingston’s injury is definitely one of the top 10 what ifs in the 2000s
Go back and watch that 2007 National championship game Greg Oden made 2 future all star bigmen look middle schoolers
I remember being a Derrick Rose fan. I still have his jersey and shoes.
I was so hyped when I saw Greg Oden in the Big 3 he was really the next dominant big man to hit the scene when he got drafted, I didn’t even watch college ball like that but I tuned in for them Ohio State games
I seen a few all star wings say that BRoy was one of their toughest match-ups
Kobe himself said that man had no weakness offensively
@@johndavis9321was gonna say namely Kobe
I think that was nice of kobe to say. He was nice really nice but I think D-rose & oden were the 2 biggest damn injury Altho I’d say B Roy was sad cuz he just got Roy & then his career suddenly ended in his 2nd year. One of wash all time best players
Great and Sad video all at once. Keep up the great content!💯🙏🏽
This is so sad that great players like Rose,Oden,and Roy careers where limited due to injuries.
Very nice vid brother. 🎉
Just imagine a back court duo with a prime D. Rose and a hungry up & coming Jimmy Butler
I say all the time had rose been able to stay healthy and team up wit the dog jimmy butler those bulls teams would have gave those lbj heat and Cavs teams hell
And those pacers team they weren’t no joke for a few years.
Biggest what's if due to injury ...
Penny Hardaway
Grant Hill
T-Mac
D-Rose
Brandon Roy
Gilbert Arenus
I hate that my favorites players careers were stunted due to injuries, McGrady,DRose,BRoy 😢
The Rose’s injury made a ton of sense when you if you noted his landing mechanics.
greg oden was the number one pick in 2007.
Yup it was an easy choice. Basketball just hates Portland.. but Portland loves basketball.. very strange
Rose and Roy was my top 5 guard and off guard of all time before the injury. Portland must be snake bitten missing out on MJ and Durant for Sam Bowie and Oden DAMN.
Odenwas supposed to be the next Shaq. Had he not been injured, there would be no such thing as small ball basketball.
It didn't help that D Rose's coach is Tom Thibodeau who is very notorious in overplaying his starters
Is that why this load management business came about??
A great one jc as the Chinese say be aware time is luck. For these guys luck ran out.
Greg Oden was drafted. First pick 2007 with. Number 2 Kevin Durant
Brandon Roy is my third favorite player of all time behind Jordan and Kobe. Roy was the second coming of Kobe but in a silent assassin form. A healthy Roy would have took some chips from Curry and Bron.
Derrick Rose style of play caused him. I don’t blame the coach. I was a big D Rose fan.
Mvp Rose 🌹was unstoppable!
Portland has THE WORST LUCK, ever: Bill Walton, Sam Bowie, Greg Oden and Brandon Roy.💯
And Sebastian telfair
Greg oden was drafted 07 not 06 and Brandon Roy was drafted 6th overall not 3rd
Blazers team could’ve been a dynasty smh
They went from the jailblazers to back to back worst injury/break nba champions!! 😂🤣 2 x what shoulda woulda coulda
Another one dwade although he had a hall of fame career. His career was plagued with injuries and his greatness was cut short
Do a Stunted growth on Stephen Jackson had he not been involved Malice in the Palace.He could been a valuable sharp shooter helping teams in he Playoffs similar to Robert "Big Shot Bob" Horry who has 7 rings. At one point he held the NBA's single game 3 point record. He at least one year he could of been an All-Star. I belive Coach Pop missed manage his playing time bringing in emotion and often times isolating the big 3 from the rest of the team. I recalled a few playoff games where Tony Parker blew him off instead of passing to him when he was wide open for 3. Being called Captain Jack tells you he was a good locker room guy and leader. Also do a Stunted Growth on Marcus Dupree of Oklahoma, Trajon Langdon of Duke and the O'Bannon brothers of UCLA who paved the way for NIL'S!!!
Side note on Steohen Jackson winning a State Champship in High School with a Coach named Andre Boutte who won a State Championship with Kendrick Perkins 00. He is one of few coaches to have coached 2 players to Basketball State Championship and those2 players also win an NBA Championship!
Oden would have been so dam good
Injuries almost got D-Wade too 🫣
2000 all injury team
pg: d rose
sg: b roy
sf: tmac
pf: grant hill
c: oden
Micheal redd injury was disheartening
Danny granger
The stunted growth should be Gordon Haywood, Nenad Krstic, and Troy Hudson.
The question that people in this comment never commented: what if Michael jordan never had that injury coming into the nba
Do the 2010s what if next.
D 🌹 was and is super talented. If never got injured he could’ve got a ring or 2 and would’ve been considered better than A.I maybe even Curry.
I was never a greg oden guy i see what people were saying i just didnt think hed pan out
You never watched then. He was Joel embiid with a bad training staff that didn’t trust the process
@dougefresh8029 no I did watch lol I always was concerned about injury for him that's why I didn't think he'd pan out not cuz of talent
@@dougefresh8029no he wasn’t. He had no offensive game outside of dunking
Greg Oden was drafted #1 in 07 brotha
Why is he acting like a 12 pt lead with 1:22 left in a playoff game is some unquestionable scenario where you just pull your starters? This is a playoff game. I can understand a season game , but that is hardly an insurmountable lead from a playoff team to eclipse given how many possession you can get off with 1:22. Al the criticism of Thibadeau is classic Monday morning quarterbacking. Hardly anyone would have made a peep about the starters not being pulled if he hadn’t got hurt. Honestly , I’d imagine viewers would be perplexed by the action if indeed he did pull the starters in that situation.
You should do Jokim Noah
For me, Derrick Rose will always be the biggest "what if" in the history of NBA basketball. Anyone who questions this, watch his 50-point game in Minnesota.
I cried. 🏀
The biggest what if, was probably Bill Walton. I would even say Grant Hill and Penny were bigger what if's. DRose is ok, he was exciting, but he was in the same mold as Russ, and alot of people would have taken Russ over him at the time anyway. DRose is just beloved because he was the next star in Chicago, there are alot of PGs better than him.
@@williambrabston3045while I do agree to an extent let's remember that penny played 4 seasons before the injury bug bit him hill played 6 so while it obviously wasn't long we pretty much saw what those guys would look like at their absolute best wit d rose their were still many things he could have gotten better at passing, three point shooting and he was still able to be an MVP also I gotta push back against the Westbrook thing Westbrook was and still is a beast but he wasn't prime rose rose was a better finisher at the cup, better overall shooter better defensively like c'mon bro
@@johndavis9321 you are just wrong, if you look at the stats, ESPECIALLY in the playoffs, they were nearly identical. DRose was pretty meh in the playoffs.
@@williambrabston3045 drose had WAY WORSE teams than Russ what lol
@@johndavis9321 what the fuck does that have to do with their performance... and this is prior to injury, and they are basically the same age...
Sigh... We're going to need a stunted growth double feature on Zion and Ja soon....
Nah, all Zion needs to do is stop messing with weird Twitter girls & remain healthy while Ja just needs to stop flashing guns and get his mind right. They’ll be alright.
@@averyyyy_w2you sure?
How is it everyone forgets about jay williams?
Even if Rose didn't get injured, the Bulls wasn't going to win anything with LeBron being in Miami.
Portland had the pieces..... Those guys just couldn't get healthy.
most def D rose. D Williams and Yao Ming
Penny should def be here and grant hill
Discuss John Wall decline
You forgot Jay Williams.
I was a fan of d rose. He was explosive and a great talent and great athleticism. But Brandon Roy was my fuckin guy lol. He had it all figured out and would have definitely made a WCF run or two with Aldridge and Bayless. Especially if they don't trade Bayless and roy stays healthy. 💯 I'm a fan of nate McMillan as many are but he was not the coach for that team. Just like Chauncey isn't now. Big fan of Chauncey the player but the coach? Idk man
How was B.Roy cleared after only 8 days?
You gotta do one on Gilbert Arenas
He did one already
hope zion doesn’t get added to this list.
Greg Oden averaged 11 and 8 in only 23 mins
If D Rose never gets hurt, he doesnt have a way to get the jury to sympathise for him. Because he definitely confirmed just about every detail of his victim’s story and his only defense was to just cry about how much he’s been through.
Shaun Livingston?
Yup bulls definitely wasn't the same greg oden was nice at Ohio State to
Rose was better than Westbrook initially because Westbrook was still learning the position. I think Oden would’ve been Bynum with better footwork.
Nah bruh rose was always better than Westbrook no disrespect to westbrook but he was never d rose
Somewhat. At one point, I thought Andrew Bynum was going to really grow as a center and do damage. Ah well.
Why was D Rose n da same??
Greg Odom came to the league too old. He could hv been a good big man tho.
i know he looked like he was 40 but, he was 19 or 20.
It's Oden, not Odom. ✌🏻
@@jayskicksnfits9372 appreciate it but he came in appearing too old and beat up.
@@zuluamar6791 He would have had a hell of a career if it wasn't for his injuries unfortunately. 😢
Lol ripe age of 44. Smudge a number here and bam birth certificate says your only 19. Go get em boss. In all seriousness blazers was my squad in the mid to late 2000s with pacers being my east conference team. Danny granger trade killed them pacers though
Greg Oden was a better defender than offensive player
Also....where was his shooting game? Did he not develop that at all? I only saw baby hooks and dunks in these clips.