Embiid is really good, but Jokic is an all timer. The funniest part is Embiid whining about not having enough help. Dude, you've played with Harden, Butler, Simmons, Harris, Maxey and lots of skilled role players over the years. Maybe you're the one who needs to step up in the playoffs. Look at Jokic. Selfless, humble and down to earth. That's a leader. Look at Butler and the Heat. That's team culture. The Sixers are a joke.
to be fair, embiid's second option underperforms in the playoffs while jokic's really steps up a ton. but no excuse for embiid's severe underperformance. largest drop-off in ppg from reg season to postseason by an mvp in nba history.
Dude it’s Philadelphia💀 what do u expect 😭 that’s what caused the Ben Simmons shit. Embiid and the stupid sixers fans crying over 1 play as if the rest of the team didn’t play bad that night in game 7
Embiid choke in playoffs was epic. Not only that he underperformed, which is understatement, he as a leader that threw his them under the bus so casually... I didn't know that MVP should do that.
@@zivkozdravko WAT 🤦♂You literally just said Harden and Embiid. They're together on the same team but you said they're alone. While also saying Boston has Tatum? Tf.
This stupid video..embiid was doubled whole 1st round, why his ppg so low. Then had kneed injury whole 2nd round. Not playoffs would have missed games.
Embiid was the best player in the nba this year in the regular season jokic was good but not mvp caliber in the regular season he was in the playoffs though
You can’t blame Embiid’s poor performance on his knee because his play style doesn’t exactly require athleticism but also remember he injured himself by flopping… You don’t feel sorry for that
@@Dark_Saibot which makes it even more impressive how Lebron destroyed him for most of his career when horford was younger and more nimble. His defense on giannis is very good.
@@Dark_Saibot Giannis literally averaged 34-15-7 against Boston the last time they matched up in the playoffs 29-11-5 against Boston in 2019 and 26-10-6 against Boston in 2018 what are you chatting about Horford has never locked down giannis
@@j4genius961 uh USA will always have more star power than Europe🤣 and btw wembanyama just like Chet. All hyped up just to kill his career in the offszn
This right here explains why Jokic's run was so incredible. When teams get to play you 4 to 7 times in a row they can find your weaknesses and wear you down. No one figured out how to slow him down.
@@Nightcrawler90210 I ain’t said his performance in the postseason that gave it away, it was his mindset lol. It was just the glaring moment in that whole situation
it legit was a debate about who was better between Embiid and Jokic.. this year's playoffs settled that debate 💯 one guy played like stir fry in a game 7 and the other guy just won finals MVP.. Nikola Jokic is not only the best center in basketball, he's the best player in the world.. the real MVP 💯
@@Thegoldenchild415 true, embiid was arguably as good if not better than jokic in the regular season, but jokic propelled himself to a tier with only him and giannis in it when the playoffs came around.
@@MikHooper he wasn't better than Jokic in regular season. Come on, other than PPG and blocks he had nothing better than Jokic, Jokic lead his team to 1st seed.
I think it just goes to show how extremely challenging it is to perform well during the playoffs, making the performance of guys like jimmy butler and jokic that much more impressive.
@@ScroodyyI know I'm just saying that TMac didn't get out the first round as the main or second option.(Before you say Houston in 2009 him and Yao Ming got injured. So it was basically Ron Artest solo squading both the Brandon Roy/LaMarcus Aldridge Blazers and Kobe/Pau Lakers)
We don’t know. Embiid won it because he had a better season and played the most games. Man you’ll guys kill me who knows nothing about basketball lol. That man isnt playing against any elite centers and when he matched up against Embiid he got served. Jokic is slow and he can’t play defense. Look at all the great centers they played against high level centers. Outside of Embiid what other center he plays against. I will wait!
I am baffled to people being unaware of the concept that the best NBA players don't play to 100% of their capabilities during the regular season.... that's why players like Embiid look good during the regular season, against teams that don't play defense, because most teams don't play defense for 95% of the time until the playoffs, when teams start defending, most players hit less percentages, score less points, make more mistakes, but the greatest players elevate their game and their percentages stay the same or increase...
Yeah I always thought Joel was very scummy and cunning for that press conference, passive aggressively assigning blame on his team, I just didn't want to say it out loud until you did. He may had been awesome in regular season, but his humanity just isn't complete yet.
I’m a fan of his.. believed he deserved MVP (at least one of the past 3 years, if not 2)… and the 2nd half of that game 7 and the press conference were for sure his lowest moments.. I hope Jokic winning it all and getting all the praise is motivation for him to get it together
look as a jokic fan, i am obviously biased toward embiid, but i did have at least a little respect for him (the situation with his brother, him not playing ball until he was 15) but then when he and harden had a GENERATIONAL choke in game 7, and had the audacity to blame his teammates, unforgivable. i hope you sixers fans get a better star player.
that Embiid collapse is epic. -10 points per game against the best teams in the league. guy is always going to feel like a fraud when he thinks of the 22-23 season
What everyone said, plus the fact D LO SHOULD NOT BE THE GUY YOU DEPEND ON TO WIN A SERIES!!! FOR CHRIST SAKE HE IS A ROLE PLAYER!!!!!! I hate Lakers fans. LeBron did not show up, and neither did AD. They are the stars, and they played like shit. They deserve all the blame cause they are the ones expected to show up, not some role player. Get a grip. The blame is not on DLo.
For the Kings - Huerter was definitely a disappointment, but I would nominate Sabonis too. Got outrebounded by Looney & beat up by the looney-green tag team. Scoring also went down the toilet sadly. Fingers crossed that he works on all of these issues.
looney outrebounds everyone XD i mean kinda biased as a warriors fan but sabonis isnt a crazy glass cleaner while looney is top 5 often and regularly gets 20 boards
@@coinboy_coin what are you even talkin about? Sabonis was literally the number one rebounder the whole season while Looney was #15 so it definitely was a surprise that sabonis was gettin worked on the boards.
Jokic last year was eliminated in the first round, Westbrook lost in the first round in 2017 to name a few. I'm a Jokic fan and an Embitch hater btw, just like to check facts.
@@МихаилКаркошко he didn't mean during their MVP season. He was saying that all players who've won the regular season MVP award have appeared in at least the conference finals during the course of their careers except Embiid of course.
It's not really complicated. People just have to compared Embid and Jokic when they don't play and play for their own teams. Start from there, then look at ALL the stats and see who is the MOST VALUABLE PLAYER base on ALL THE STATS. If you can't do that, you probably just basing your opinion on either the 30+ pts average and his blocks or just the skin color. Remember guys, it's not a scoring champion trophy or defensive player of the year trophy, its the MOST VALUABLE PLAYER! VALUABLE PLAYER TO A TEAM! A TEAM!
Really, it’s the most valuable player in the LEAGUE.. it’s most outstanding player.. they both had historic seasons.. and personally I think either could have won it the past 3 seasons.. Embiid’s team won more games all 3 years.. last year, Jokic winning as a 6 seed was egregious imo (and they were gentleman’s swept out of the first round).. I would’ve personally given that MVP to Embiid.. and this year, I would’ve given it to Jokic.. but you can’t give out 3x in a row when at least one of those was a mistake.. (Jokic was swept out of the 2nd round for his first MVP.. so technically Embiid made it further in his MVP playoffs than Jokic did in either of his MVP playoffs)..
Embiid’s team won more games for sure as if you look at the games without them nuggets have had a far worse record than the sixers. Jokic had the worse team the past 2 years by far. This year he had the better team and the nuggets won more games with Jokic(48 wins) playing than Sixers did with Embiid(43 wins)playing.
@@timholland2129 I'm not even saying that Embiid is a better player right now.. I don't think you can argue that after the run Jokic just had.. my thing is that this season, they gave Embiid the MVP as a make up call for last season because Jokic had no business winning it as a 6 seed.. (remember, Embiid was missing Simmons all season too and Harden came in after the all star break).. point is, there's no point in arguing the MVP this year as if Jokic should have 3 in a row.. I think he should have 1 or 2 over the past 3 seasons and Embiid should have 1 or 2 over the past 3 seasons.. Jokic broke out this year, but maybe Embiid's health holds up and he breaks out next year.. bringing up the wins and PER, and PPG and all of that stuff is just an example that even if Jokic is better, he's not 3x MVP in a row better (without the playoff success).. and I think now that he has the playoff success, he's fair game to win his 3rd MVP next season.. and if he does, people will whine and say it should've been 4x in a row, but it really shouldn't lol.. 2 for Giannis, 2 for Jokic, 1 for Embiid is about right given these past 5 seasons..
@@gbmbg114 Well, I guess Embid help with having other team wins some games since is the whole league? I don't know how you're able to look at the league but miss the Team? How valuable is the player to a TEAM winning in regular season! You saying the 2nd MVP of Jokic should be for Embid shows how much you don't do research and just base your MVP on regular season standings and still miss the meaning of MVP. Do some research on why the Nuggers are ONLY 6th seeds or was eliminated on the first round. If you can't figure that out do some research. Amazing how you base the regular season MVP on first and 2nd round playoff. I guess the NBA should just remove finals MVP then since MVP is also base on what rounds you get eliminated? Your technicality is so bad, do some research! Start with comparing who Jokic is playing with and who Embid is playing with during that 2022 season! Once you finish comparing who they playing with, start comparing their regular season stats. Just so annoying how I have to explain to someone who is very technical! You should also do some research on why AI won the MVP. He doesn't average a triple double you show know that, but research who he playing with. You can start with that as well.
Chemistry does has effect on making open shots in my opinion: for me, having good chemistry and knowing that your teammates got your back boosted my confidence to shoot, and confidence is essential to shooting effectively
I lost all respect for Embiid after this years exit presser. Dudes a frontrunner, wants all the attention and accolades when its going good, then it goes bad and dude just points finger at guys behind him. Dude sucked in playoffs and than had the audacity to blame others 😂😂
@@marcusbell-dixon4733 lol I'd rather just watch him fail each year in second round. He's always good for a solid laugh every May. Then he throws somebody else under bus in presser. Pure gold.
Oh yes don't give the MVP to Jokic because he earned it twice already. Give it to this guy so he can complain about his team! I hope all the "experts" that voted for him can now justify their decision
so we gonna forget that half of these players came off of injuries and some of those players are never gonna play the same. It’s not their faults and making a claim that a small portion of players play with injuries is insane because these players don’t have the same bodies, not the same injuries, and it depends on how bad the injury is so I really don’t understand that claim imo
And how many all stars Embiid need to pass secound round? Buttler, Simions, Harden, Tobias, Maxy? Joker does not have a single all star player in his team. Never ever.
With how much the Europeans are becoming more and more dominant in the league it will come a time where the NBA is the one who will be getting inspiration from the euros
For the Final 4 games in the Celtics series and in the 5games in the NBA Finals, Jimmy Butler deserves an honorable mention for this list of yours. He was inefficient, timid, and at times lost out there!
Ok to be fair, James Harden doesn't deserve to be on this list. Yes he choked in the 2018 playoffs in game 7, but he carried in game 1 when they didn't have Embiid. Gotta give him credit; his prime ended in the 18/19 off season.
Yeah players 33+ in age shouldn't be on lists like this. Klay is older too and has has multiple serious injuries. These ppl expect him to play like superstar wtf.
His FG% was good and his ppg was just a bit lower and that's it. He has never been a great defender or scorer anyway. People expect way too much out of him for some reason?
Embiid should have been forced to relinquish that MVP award the moment he threw his teammates under the bus after they were eliminated from the postseason. The dude is just a loser in sense of the word. I sincerely hope he goes to bed crying every night knowing definitively that Jokic is better than him in every way imaginable.
Honestly I really think that Joel deserved this MVP. Yet his Play Off Perfomance was so terrible that it totally unjustifies that title. I really hope that they’ll get a leader into the franchise otherwise the chances for a ring less Joel are extremely high
I’ve always felt that the MVP should be given just before the finals. Who plays the best throughout the season and playoffs. Then finals mvp goes to the best player of the finals
@@gchdufdi I know what it is. That’s why I said what I said. They should change it to include the playoffs. That would have garanteed Jokic get both MVP and finals MVP because he was better than Embiid in the post season
@@gchdufdibut Joker lost 3 mvp because the narrative was he did nothing in the playoffs but he played wcf 2020 but Embid never played ecf but that is not counting for Embid just for Jokic.Embid is a bad person and bad teammate always blame others when lose.Jokic is two class better player than Embid period.
Jordan Poole: Reverted to the mean. Klay Thompson: Getting old. Julius Randle: Regular season hero. Joel Embiid: Participation Prize MVP buying his own hype. James Harden: Trash. Donovan Mitchell: Me-first player who would not sacrifice stats for wins in playoffs. Evan Mobley: Didn't have big games but didn't overcompensate at least. Jarret Allen: Seems humble. Wouldn't give up on him. Jrue Holiday: Always been over-rated, but nobody going to take away that championship run he was stellar. Deandre Ayton: Didn't stop Jokic, but who did? Seems like a scapegoat to me. Speaks to Suns dysfunctional nature. Season before he was well valued. Karl-Anthony Towns: Fake star player. Gobert never would've been brought in if he was truly dominant. Kevin Hurter: Yea, I noticed it too. The potential is there. But this guy just lacked an appreciation for his team needing more out of him, particularly on offense. Dillon Brooks: Took a lot of hate, but I have no problem with this guy trash talking LeCommie. Dude just missed open shots, but at least he took them. Big mistake by the Grizzlies to announce they won't resign the guy. Ja Morant: Not on the list, but terrible decision making cost his team advancing IMO. De'Aaron Fox: Not on the list but also terrible decision making cost his team advancing IMO.
As a Nuggets fan Michael Porter Jr was historically rancid from 3 pt range and on numerous occasions made some other poor choices but had a few clutch moments when it mattered. He's talented, he's fortunate everyone has his back and I hope he works on his game.
Embiid is really good, but Jokic is an all timer. The funniest part is Embiid whining about not having enough help. Dude, you've played with Harden, Butler, Simmons, Harris, Maxey and lots of skilled role players over the years. Maybe you're the one who needs to step up in the playoffs.
Look at Jokic. Selfless, humble and down to earth. That's a leader. Look at Butler and the Heat. That's team culture. The Sixers are a joke.
to be fair, embiid's second option underperforms in the playoffs while jokic's really steps up a ton. but no excuse for embiid's severe underperformance. largest drop-off in ppg from reg season to postseason by an mvp in nba history.
Dude it’s Philadelphia💀 what do u expect 😭 that’s what caused the Ben Simmons shit. Embiid and the stupid sixers fans crying over 1 play as if the rest of the team didn’t play bad that night in game 7
@@MikHooper if anything that should make Embiid better if his 2nd option is dropping off he needs to STEP UP
@@GodF-1st yeah i know, as i said there's no excuse for his failures
@@MikHooper ye
Embiid choke in playoffs was epic. Not only that he underperformed, which is understatement, he as a leader that threw his them under the bus so casually... I didn't know that MVP should do that.
lol mvp scores 15 points in a game 7 loss against jayson freakin tatum
@@originofdavid Harden and Embiid are alone but Boston have Tatum
He was hurt you little Jokic meat rider
@@zivkozdravko WAT 🤦♂You literally just said Harden and Embiid. They're together on the same team but you said they're alone. While also saying Boston has Tatum? Tf.
This stupid video..embiid was doubled whole 1st round, why his ppg so low. Then had kneed injury whole 2nd round. Not playoffs would have missed games.
Hot take: Embiid only won MVP because Kendrick Perkins said the voters were racist for voting for Jokic for the third year in a row.
Woke NBA voters
Thats just right
Bad take. Jokic kinda sucked ass in the last few games of the regular season, remember?
Embiid was the best player in the nba this year in the regular season jokic was good but not mvp caliber in the regular season he was in the playoffs though
Racist
You can’t blame Embiid’s poor performance on his knee because his play style doesn’t exactly require athleticism but also remember he injured himself by flopping… You don’t feel sorry for that
Horford is by far the most underrated defender, Giannis and Joel get locked down by him
@@Dark_Saibot which makes it even more impressive how Lebron destroyed him for most of his career when horford was younger and more nimble. His defense on giannis is very good.
@@Dark_Saibot Giannis literally averaged 34-15-7 against Boston the last time they matched up in the playoffs 29-11-5 against Boston in 2019 and 26-10-6 against Boston in 2018 what are you chatting about Horford has never locked down giannis
He wasn’t flopping when he got injured what are you talking about?
He did not get hurt flopping.
Europe is taking over the NBA, really fun to see a lot of the laid back, nonchalant play style coming to the USA
Yep!! I’m all for it
Yeah they are quickly
😂
Yep, and if Wembanyama is 1% as good as advertised the takeover has just begun
@@j4genius961 uh USA will always have more star power than Europe🤣 and btw wembanyama just like Chet. All hyped up just to kill his career in the offszn
Embiid's flopping is generational. He is so good at it. Good thing the Race Card was raised by Clown Perkins.
MVBiid only won the MVP votings because he's white and 80% of voters are white. 😤
Embiid is trash, I wish they would’ve made the finals just so Jokic could trash him
@@DylanJohansen-t1g Embiid will never reach the finals. he's going to make the KD move and request a trade to a super team.
🤡 is right! Guy consistently says dumb $h!t. 🤡🤡🤡🏀🤡🤡🤡
He needs a career ending injury 😊
MVP award totally destroyed Joel Embid, imagine being mock for winning MVP because Jokic dominated the Playoffs
Serves him right for taking weak sly shots at Giannis and the Joker, then blaming the rest of his team after he choked terribly.
Lol savage
@@sdogg Bros doesn’t know what MVP is 😂😂
Embiid should give back the MVP award after choking and blowing a 3-2 lead
Cry
@@HoopEnthusiasts this ain’t Twitter virgin
@@HoopEnthusiasts Fake MVP
Real mvp
he need to put it in a box and ship it to Serbia to the real MVP
This right here explains why Jokic's run was so incredible. When teams get to play you 4 to 7 times in a row they can find your weaknesses and wear you down. No one figured out how to slow him down.
Embiid: WaHhh GIVE ME MVP
Jokic: You can have. I’ll take championship
Jokic 200000% got robbed of MVP
same lebron 2018
How idiot
I think when we heard Embiid's words after game 7 we all knew he wasn't a real MVP
Regular season award btw, but also I had jokic as mvp before the playoffs started
@@Nightcrawler90210 I ain’t said his performance in the postseason that gave it away, it was his mindset lol. It was just the glaring moment in that whole situation
it legit was a debate about who was better between Embiid and Jokic.. this year's playoffs settled that debate 💯 one guy played like stir fry in a game 7 and the other guy just won finals MVP.. Nikola Jokic is not only the best center in basketball, he's the best player in the world.. the real MVP 💯
It's not MVP of the playoffs. It's NBA season.
@@Thegoldenchild415 true, embiid was arguably as good if not better than jokic in the regular season, but jokic propelled himself to a tier with only him and giannis in it when the playoffs came around.
@@MikHooper he wasn't better than Jokic in regular season. Come on, other than PPG and blocks he had nothing better than Jokic, Jokic lead his team to 1st seed.
@@MikHooper Too bad Giannis got injured. A Jokic vs Giannis Finals would have been legendary.
@@omnipotiscience7251 fr, and it would've settled the best player in the world debate. i really wish he didnt get injured.
I think it just goes to show how extremely challenging it is to perform well during the playoffs, making the performance of guys like jimmy butler and jokic that much more impressive.
Jimmy wasn’t great
@@jacobway468 He was doing okeish, but thats because he was legit playing nonstop. Celtic actually secured the 100% win for denver.
I mean Denver was a better team
@@doroza2lolyea but people talk like he was the best player ever. He was amazing against the bucks but after that he was really just okay
The fact that Embiid is 29 years old and has never got out the second round is hilarious🤣
Just like TMac
Didn't he make the conference finals 3 years ago?
@@KingOfMonsters2Ktmac had no help tho atleast Embiid has a few decent/ good teammates
@@ScroodyyI know I'm just saying that TMac didn't get out the first round as the main or second option.(Before you say Houston in 2009 him and Yao Ming got injured. So it was basically Ron Artest solo squading both the Brandon Roy/LaMarcus Aldridge Blazers and Kobe/Pau Lakers)
@@KingOfMonsters2K Wait, I thought in his final season, he went to the finals...
we all know why Embiid was voted MVP instead of Jokic. we just can't say it 😮
Spot on.
xenophobia + racism ?
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We don’t know. Embiid won it because he had a better season and played the most games. Man you’ll guys kill me who knows nothing about basketball lol. That man isnt playing against any elite centers and when he matched up against Embiid he got served. Jokic is slow and he can’t play defense. Look at all the great centers they played against high level centers. Outside of Embiid what other center he plays against. I will wait!
@@arntbauseg.slonesr4585cool.....it was because Jokic is white.
Joel fraud ass MVP 😂😂
Regular season awrds
@@JSage13 yeah cause he's a regular season guy at best lol 🤣🤣😂
Embiid would literally cook jokic in a shootout
@@IknowThatHurtss embum is cooking a choke job and his 17 points.
Saddest MVP in years.
I am baffled to people being unaware of the concept that the best NBA players don't play to 100% of their capabilities during the regular season.... that's why players like Embiid look good during the regular season, against teams that don't play defense, because most teams don't play defense for 95% of the time until the playoffs, when teams start defending, most players hit less percentages, score less points, make more mistakes, but the greatest players elevate their game and their percentages stay the same or increase...
I thought the same
exacttly the best players save their best games for the playoffs, im still pissed brunson missed a wide open josh hart
Yeah I always thought Joel was very scummy and cunning for that press conference, passive aggressively assigning blame on his team, I just didn't want to say it out loud until you did. He may had been awesome in regular season, but his humanity just isn't complete yet.
he's a cornball but I'm ashamed to admit that I was happy he won
im a big giannis fan and I didn't want jokic to have more MVPs than him 😭
and he got outscored by maxey and harris, he said him and james cant do it alone? james had 9 points LMAO
if I was Maxey I'd bust my way out of there and be like "lol see ya Joelle"
I’m a fan of his.. believed he deserved MVP (at least one of the past 3 years, if not 2)… and the 2nd half of that game 7 and the press conference were for sure his lowest moments.. I hope Jokic winning it all and getting all the praise is motivation for him to get it together
His carrer ending with an injury would be perfect 👌. Am I right?
Jokic proved to the NBA that he deserved the MVP over crybaby Embiid
It wouldn't be fair for other players
Jokic isn’t that good plus Embiid had better games over the season and had the first sweep in the playoffs
That's an awful truth
1000%
literally the perfect adjective for his uglass
Embiid is not play off player, he's game revolves around drawing fouls..
look as a jokic fan, i am obviously biased toward embiid, but i did have at least a little respect for him (the situation with his brother, him not playing ball until he was 15) but then when he and harden had a GENERATIONAL choke in game 7, and had the audacity to blame his teammates, unforgivable. i hope you sixers fans get a better star player.
that Embiid collapse is epic. -10 points per game against the best teams in the league. guy is always going to feel like a fraud when he thinks of the 22-23 season
Jokic runs the eighth most miles per game in the entire NBA. Only center to register the list.
Can you please give me where giannis ranks? I am.begging you
No D'Lo on here for falling apart against Denver is nasty agenda pushing.
D-lo is amazing in the playoffs only in the Conference finals he was up against bigger players.
Yeah but dlo didn’t have the high expectations all the other players on this list had.
They said playoffs, not one series. DLo played well against the Warriors and Grizzlies.
What everyone said, plus the fact D LO SHOULD NOT BE THE GUY YOU DEPEND ON TO WIN A SERIES!!! FOR CHRIST SAKE HE IS A ROLE PLAYER!!!!!! I hate Lakers fans. LeBron did not show up, and neither did AD. They are the stars, and they played like shit. They deserve all the blame cause they are the ones expected to show up, not some role player. Get a grip. The blame is not on DLo.
genuinely asking not tryna be mean but what agenda is being pushed by saying dlo played well
For the Kings - Huerter was definitely a disappointment, but I would nominate Sabonis too. Got outrebounded by Looney & beat up by the looney-green tag team. Scoring also went down the toilet sadly. Fingers crossed that he works on all of these issues.
yup, Looney abused him the entire series
looney outrebounds everyone XD i mean kinda biased as a warriors fan but sabonis isnt a crazy glass cleaner while looney is top 5 often and regularly gets 20 boards
Once Looney/Green figured out he can’t go right, the series was done
Keegan was Shite
@@coinboy_coin what are you even talkin about? Sabonis was literally the number one rebounder the whole season while Looney was #15 so it definitely was a surprise that sabonis was gettin worked on the boards.
D'lo gotta be here. Dude was the nuggets best player behind Jokic and Murray.
Yea but notice they didn’t put anyone who made it to the Conference Finals
He only choked in WCF, he had a good 1st and 2nd round unlike the listed players who sucked from the start of 1st round
No. He had a good playoffs up to that point. It’s just the Nuggets’ defense was too stifling for him.
No one is expecting dlo to perform well this playoffs, so he's good
@@kaizen-sq4rc so we just not gon talk about playoff jimmy choking in the finals
Embid did not deserve that mvp
Your mom said oh yes..~
thats the first and last mvp his ass is getting lmao, mans got outscored by maxey in game 7
As a Bucks fan it was no surprise to see Jrue here
still think Giannis did him dirty it is his responsibility to guard somebody as big as Jimmy
@@ye.ha.8378 that was on Bud, Giannis said he wanted to guard Jimmy but was never given the assignment by the coaches
@@JustJoeMCR I know but I think he shouldn't have listened.besides even when he did guard Jimmy Jimmy embarrassed him
I still remember they said Embiid should win the MVP because he never get one and its his turn 😂😂😂 what a pity award
5:23
Stephen ain’t have to do James Harden like that.💀
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"But the world found out who was the real MVP" SHEEEEEESH
Ikr Embiid
@@IknowThatHurtss just cry
@@princesslightning5447 nah jokic is good but Embiid is better
@@IknowThatHurtss you don’t even believe that 😂
@@derrickjames2015 joker think he so good he don’t gotta jump
Came for the MVP comments 😭
Ayton has been weak defensively and was exposed against Giannis. Ayton is just heartless.
Anthony Edwards played with a bad ankle and shoulder 😢
and single handdly forced a gentlemans sweep
1:17 Uuuuh, what the hell is a defensive black hole? A black hole is a player who never gives up the ball.
I'm surprised that Jaylen Brown isn't here. Especially after his abomination of a game 7.
He was heavily considered for this list, but ultimately we decided not to include him as he was solid in the 1st and 2nd round.
@@nonstophe disappeared after every 1st quarter in that Philly series
that choke honestly suprised me, dude better never even think about getting a max contract
Ay man in brooks defense no one gave him 40 lol. He should’ve went up to that podium with the stat sheet and said “I don’t see 40” 😂😂😂
lmaooooooo you stooopid lol, they did lose by 40 though soooo...
They lost by 40, there’s the 40 he was asking for.
"Brooks diminished his value, losing millions of dollars" didn't age very well, lol
Stephen A Smith: " James Harden should shave his beard, to hide his identity ".😂😂😂
Embiid is the only MVP in league history to NOT lead his team to at least conference finals.
Let that sink in
This is wrong. It literally didn’t happen last year!
Also the only MVP caliber player currently to not do so. Even Trae Young the lollipop has done so
Jokic last year was eliminated in the first round, Westbrook lost in the first round in 2017 to name a few.
I'm a Jokic fan and an Embitch hater btw, just like to check facts.
Even a young D' Rose managed to get the Bulls to the ECF.
@@МихаилКаркошко he didn't mean during their MVP season. He was saying that all players who've won the regular season MVP award have appeared in at least the conference finals during the course of their careers except Embiid of course.
I like this channel, they torched the ones who deserve to be torched. Nice, one more subscribe.
I bet Jordan Poole wanted to get out of the team after that punch in the face from Draymond lol
It's not really complicated. People just have to compared Embid and Jokic when they don't play and play for their own teams. Start from there, then look at ALL the stats and see who is the MOST VALUABLE PLAYER base on ALL THE STATS. If you can't do that, you probably just basing your opinion on either the 30+ pts average and his blocks or just the skin color. Remember guys, it's not a scoring champion trophy or defensive player of the year trophy, its the MOST VALUABLE PLAYER! VALUABLE PLAYER TO A TEAM! A TEAM!
Really, it’s the most valuable player in the LEAGUE.. it’s most outstanding player.. they both had historic seasons.. and personally I think either could have won it the past 3 seasons.. Embiid’s team won more games all 3 years.. last year, Jokic winning as a 6 seed was egregious imo (and they were gentleman’s swept out of the first round).. I would’ve personally given that MVP to Embiid.. and this year, I would’ve given it to Jokic.. but you can’t give out 3x in a row when at least one of those was a mistake.. (Jokic was swept out of the 2nd round for his first MVP.. so technically Embiid made it further in his MVP playoffs than Jokic did in either of his MVP playoffs)..
Embiid’s team won more games for sure as if you look at the games without them nuggets have had a far worse record than the sixers. Jokic had the worse team the past 2 years by far. This year he had the better team and the nuggets won more games with Jokic(48 wins) playing than Sixers did with Embiid(43 wins)playing.
@@timholland2129 I'm not even saying that Embiid is a better player right now.. I don't think you can argue that after the run Jokic just had.. my thing is that this season, they gave Embiid the MVP as a make up call for last season because Jokic had no business winning it as a 6 seed.. (remember, Embiid was missing Simmons all season too and Harden came in after the all star break).. point is, there's no point in arguing the MVP this year as if Jokic should have 3 in a row.. I think he should have 1 or 2 over the past 3 seasons and Embiid should have 1 or 2 over the past 3 seasons.. Jokic broke out this year, but maybe Embiid's health holds up and he breaks out next year..
bringing up the wins and PER, and PPG and all of that stuff is just an example that even if Jokic is better, he's not 3x MVP in a row better (without the playoff success).. and I think now that he has the playoff success, he's fair game to win his 3rd MVP next season.. and if he does, people will whine and say it should've been 4x in a row, but it really shouldn't lol.. 2 for Giannis, 2 for Jokic, 1 for Embiid is about right given these past 5 seasons..
@@gbmbg114 Well, I guess Embid help with having other team wins some games since is the whole league? I don't know how you're able to look at the league but miss the Team? How valuable is the player to a TEAM winning in regular season! You saying the 2nd MVP of Jokic should be for Embid shows how much you don't do research and just base your MVP on regular season standings and still miss the meaning of MVP. Do some research on why the Nuggers are ONLY 6th seeds or was eliminated on the first round. If you can't figure that out do some research. Amazing how you base the regular season MVP on first and 2nd round playoff. I guess the NBA should just remove finals MVP then since MVP is also base on what rounds you get eliminated? Your technicality is so bad, do some research! Start with comparing who Jokic is playing with and who Embid is playing with during that 2022 season! Once you finish comparing who they playing with, start comparing their regular season stats. Just so annoying how I have to explain to someone who is very technical! You should also do some research on why AI won the MVP. He doesn't average a triple double you show know that, but research who he playing with. You can start with that as well.
Embiid will never be better than Jokič cause of all the injuries he has sustained alone. Jokič has 0 serious injuries to this day.
Embiid did not deserve that mvp
Yes he did regular season award
WORST players, as a Cavs fan I nominate the entire Cavaliers starting 5, who turned straight butt cheeks in the playoffs.
Embiid should receive now the same treatment he offered Ben Simmons and be traded!
tbf idk the history between them well but was it really joel who pushed Ben out of town?
Nah it be better if he retires with an injury
Chemistry does has effect on making open shots in my opinion: for me, having good chemistry and knowing that your teammates got your back boosted my confidence to shoot, and confidence is essential to shooting effectively
Embiid and choke 2 words that go together
Such a huge elephant in the room. Nba media is just silent right now
I lost all respect for Embiid after this years exit presser. Dudes a frontrunner, wants all the attention and accolades when its going good, then it goes bad and dude just points finger at guys behind him.
Dude sucked in playoffs and than had the audacity to blame others 😂😂
A carrer ending injury would set everything right so we don't have to see him play anymore
@@marcusbell-dixon4733 lol I'd rather just watch him fail each year in second round. He's always good for a solid laugh every May. Then he throws somebody else under bus in presser. Pure gold.
@@Michael-vn2jj I prefer him to break all his bones completely 😁
They added a new update on NBA 2K23. Instead of saying “Bad shot selection”, it now says “A Jordan Poole Shot”
Are u fr tho?💀💀💀
man everytime i see joel embid
its made me LOL
HE IS THE MVP ROFL
say what you will about Brooks, his intro ritual will always be fire!!
Oh yes don't give the MVP to Jokic because he earned it twice already.
Give it to this guy so he can complain about his team!
I hope all the "experts" that voted for him can now justify their decision
Embiid will be hospitalized so bad that he won't be winning anything anymore 😊
giannis deserve it more if not jokic
Embiid is Good against weak east teams on regular Season,he hasnt even played Denver in a long time
that is why the joker should have been the regular season MVP
Jokic not winning MVP for a third and then doing what he did in the post just embarrass the voters who picked Embiid even more.
It’s almolst as if embiid is injured every year in the playoffs
It was definitely the injury on his leg
Dude injured himself by flopping this year, hard to have any sympathy for him at this point.
@@Cynsham he’s tall
Dude I'd rather have a star player that tries to be aggressive than have stars like Embiid and Harden who cower in fear of the finals
so we gonna forget that half of these players came off of injuries and some of those players are never gonna play the same. It’s not their faults and making a claim that a small portion of players play with injuries is insane because these players don’t have the same bodies, not the same injuries, and it depends on how bad the injury is so I really don’t understand that claim imo
Embid stole Jokic’s 3rd MVP
Embiid will be in the hospital for the rest of his life so we don't have to see him😊
Bro no Sabonis is crazy
He also underperforming in 2019 and 2020 playoffs
Playoff Donovan is someone every Utah fan is familiar with. I truly hope he can improve and make smarter decisions as his career progresses.
He'll always have the bubble series vs the Nuggets.
Everyone knew they just didnt want joker to 3peat is the only reason he didnt get it
only reason they didt want the 3 peat is because they werent doing anything in the playoffs tbh
@@originofdavid kinda hard to do that when both of your other options are not playing for 2 seasons
@@originofdavid They were in West Finals 2 years ago. Something that Embiid never did. Last 2 years they played without Murray and MPJ.
And how many all stars Embiid need to pass secound round? Buttler, Simions, Harden, Tobias, Maxy? Joker does not have a single all star player in his team. Never ever.
That Steven a comment about harden shaving the beard was too funny😂😂
With how much the Europeans are becoming more and more dominant in the league it will come a time where the NBA is the one who will be getting inspiration from the euros
That happen when you discriminate white people. Its embarrasing that there are not white americans in nba
What Europeans dominated on Miami Heat or Boston Celtics rosters?? They were top East teams.
@@coops1992 thats not the point I am making. What I am saying is that we are getting more and more dominant european players.
For the Final 4 games in the Celtics series and in the 5games in the NBA Finals, Jimmy Butler deserves an honorable mention for this list of yours. He was inefficient, timid, and at times lost out there!
Brunson took over as the face of the Knicks in 1 season😂😂 randle stays small in playoffs
he missed a wide open josh hart thats sad, we wont be seeing them again
Jokic and Murray win titles the rest can win popularity contest lmao
Idk how Jaylen Brown didn’t make this list tbh
Or Jimmy Butler
@@jumpy2xstreamingHe literally made the finals 😑😑
Dillon Brooks watching his career fall apart has got to be one of the most satisfying things ever in basketball 😂
Ok to be fair, James Harden doesn't deserve to be on this list. Yes he choked in the 2018 playoffs in game 7, but he carried in game 1 when they didn't have Embiid. Gotta give him credit; his prime ended in the 18/19 off season.
Yeah players 33+ in age shouldn't be on lists like this. Klay is older too and has has multiple serious injuries. These ppl expect him to play like superstar wtf.
His prime ended after the hamstring injury
Poole had the "I'll ball out in my contract year then be useless till my next contract year"
do a BEST player of the 2023 playoffs
Jokic, Butler, Murray, AG, Duncan Robinson,... Mostly coming from Heat & Nuggets
@@wazzup233can literally put Steph in that list he was class in most games guy had no help
You could probably add Sabonis to this list.
His FG% was good and his ppg was just a bit lower and that's it. He has never been a great defender or scorer anyway. People expect way too much out of him for some reason?
Dillon Brooks might’ve actually gotten the last laugh w/ that 4yrs/86M contract he signed w/ the Rockets!
Love NBA greetings from Bosnia 🇧🇦💙 Jokić Champ ,can't wait to see Nurkić in new season with new Portland
Embiid should have been forced to relinquish that MVP award the moment he threw his teammates under the bus after they were eliminated from the postseason. The dude is just a loser in sense of the word. I sincerely hope he goes to bed crying every night knowing definitively that Jokic is better than him in every way imaginable.
Embiid is the fake mvp
Shut up. Scoring title
Turned out brooks got one of the most lucrative deals in the nba
Honestly I really think that Joel deserved this MVP. Yet his Play Off Perfomance was so terrible that it totally unjustifies that title. I really hope that they’ll get a leader into the franchise otherwise the chances for a ring less Joel are extremely high
I’ve always felt that the MVP should be given just before the finals. Who plays the best throughout the season and playoffs. Then finals mvp goes to the best player of the finals
Thank you, people should understand mvp is regular season award and embiid was great in the regular season
@@LikkleJamerican it’s a regular Season award for a reason…
@@gchdufdi I know what it is. That’s why I said what I said. They should change it to include the playoffs. That would have garanteed Jokic get both MVP and finals MVP because he was better than Embiid in the post season
@@gchdufdibut Joker lost 3 mvp because the narrative was he did nothing in the playoffs but he played wcf 2020 but Embid never played ecf but that is not counting for Embid just for Jokic.Embid is a bad person and bad teammate always blame others when lose.Jokic is two class better player than Embid period.
Ayton thought of that nickname long before he used it 😂😂😂😂
Dominayton 😂😂😂😂😂😂😘
He literally said it right after beating Zubac like really bitch lol
Jordan Poole: Reverted to the mean.
Klay Thompson: Getting old.
Julius Randle: Regular season hero.
Joel Embiid: Participation Prize MVP buying his own hype.
James Harden: Trash.
Donovan Mitchell: Me-first player who would not sacrifice stats for wins in playoffs.
Evan Mobley: Didn't have big games but didn't overcompensate at least.
Jarret Allen: Seems humble. Wouldn't give up on him.
Jrue Holiday: Always been over-rated, but nobody going to take away that championship run he was stellar.
Deandre Ayton: Didn't stop Jokic, but who did? Seems like a scapegoat to me. Speaks to Suns dysfunctional nature. Season before he was well valued.
Karl-Anthony Towns: Fake star player. Gobert never would've been brought in if he was truly dominant.
Kevin Hurter: Yea, I noticed it too. The potential is there. But this guy just lacked an appreciation for his team needing more out of him, particularly on offense.
Dillon Brooks: Took a lot of hate, but I have no problem with this guy trash talking LeCommie. Dude just missed open shots, but at least he took them. Big mistake by the Grizzlies to announce they won't resign the guy.
Ja Morant: Not on the list, but terrible decision making cost his team advancing IMO.
De'Aaron Fox: Not on the list but also terrible decision making cost his team advancing IMO.
Thanks for not putting jaylen brown on here lmao
I was not expecting LeBear at 11:26 😂😂😂
8:47 like a knife through hot butter
Ma boi Poole didnt saw any baddie on court side, dont go hard on him
Statistically the worst MVP winner to ever play in the playoffs the same year.
Joel does this every season and people wanna say he's better than the TRUE MVP, jokic
harden could have stayed w philly, but they cant win alone
As a Nuggets fan Michael Porter Jr was historically rancid from 3 pt range and on numerous occasions made some other poor choices but had a few clutch moments when it mattered. He's talented, he's fortunate everyone has his back and I hope he works on his game.
All this playoffs proved was that jokic got robbed of an MVP
They did James Harden dirty though😂
This is the greatest content of all time. Yes I just subscribed.
I wish you would have spent more time on Embiid.
Bro doing scout reports for CBA teams 😂😂😂
Embid “Me and James can’t win alone”
Joker and Murray” Hold our beers”
Players nowadays are soft at mentality.
At this point I wait for this video every year😂
when bucks fans needed Jrue Holiday the most, he vanished