Alex Van Halen: The Lost Interview with Steve Rosen (9/9/85) - Part Three
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- Alex Van Halen: The Lost Interview with Steve Rosen (9/9/85) - Part Three
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Part 3
02:00 Start of Van Halen
6:18 Meeting Michael Anthony
12:02 Writing songs
14:30 DLR
16:30 Playing live
20:27 Gazzarri’s
23:06 Whiskey
32:36 DLR
42:51 Ted & Mo
This is gold. Alex has so much more information and details that I’ve never heard Eddie talk about.
Yes, Alex was with Ed from the very beginning and he was very protective towards his little brother. In some ways Ed was very much the ‘sensitive creative artist’ type and Alex was more streetwise so Alex always looked out for him…Ed and Alex were the ULTIMATE UNIT actually….Both as brothers and as musicians. When they would jam together live or in studio recording out takes I’ve heard I don’t think I have ever heard two musicians locked in so tight able to anticipate where each was building and taking the music they were creating on the hoof together…It was like E.S.P ….It was FANTASTIC to WATCH as well as to listen to….Just watch the footage on the video LIVE WITHOUT A NET from 1986 with Ed’s trans Trem intro on GET UP when Ed is standing on the drum riser with his brother getting astonishing loud feedback ….Watch the bit when ALEX starts up the drum pace and looks at ED ! …Watch the BODY LANGUAGE CONNECTION between them….It’s like Alex is saying with his eyes -‘let’s just KILL ‘ EM BRUV’ ! …..F****NG. A…….. lol….💪💪💪💪💪💪💪💪🙏🙏💥💥💥💥⚡️⚡️⚡️⚡️
@godbyone I think MIKE gave interviews years later where he described his audition to replace Mark Stone in Van Halen. Mike said - 'Ed & Alex put me through about every time change & switch you could imagine & it was quite a baptism of fire' .....Mind you , it was for WOLFGANG too over 30 years later when he came into the picture & he was only 15.
Eddie had the information but he was painfully shy despite his rock star status. Alex even said so in this interview.
Truly !
@@gigitonsvajv Yes
One of the biggest takeaways to me at least listening to these three interviews is Van Halen definitely paid their dues to get where they made it.
Alex is the voice I trust and believe. He's honest but fair in his remarks. He gives credit where it's due, but is 100% honest about his feelings. Most remarkable is his description of what he and Ed would do left to their own devices because that was their future when they were left to themselves. Recorded tons of music that nobody ever heard.
I kind of felt sorry for DLR during this one actually….When Alex goes after folks he don’t take prisoners 😔..But at the time of this interview sept 1985 there was real bad blood in the music press between the brothers and mr. Roth.
As a kid in 1982, I could see the dominance of Dave and the oppression of Mike in the photos. Look at the b/w photo in Diver Down - Ed looks so sad because he really was.@@walterevans2118
This interview was. Taken at a bad time. I bet if it was a year later. It would have been lighter but. It was honest. At least he gave him credit. Look at holdsworth robin ford. Larry Carlton. All greats. But I need that. Lead singer to put girls in the seat s
Did u hear the thing about Roth saying he did Eddie’s girl??? I heard a rumor years ago but thought it was bs. Was he referring to Valerie??? wtf
No, not Valerie because he didn't like her, but she did cheat on Ed with the drummer of Autograph who had been Dave's jogging buddy before '84 the tour.@@godbyone
Best interview of the three so far in my opinion. All three are great. Thanks for posting.
Thanks for listening
Most likely, this information and more will be in his book out in October 22nd. Thanks for the videos!
We’re just passing through history. This IS history.
Great, great stuff. Preview for his book. Alex always looked like a bright guy, it shows in these recordings. Thanks for the upload and Alex thanks for the music.
Glad you enjoyed it!
I did read Greg Renoff’s book a while back where he discussed the incident at the Pomona club but hearing Alex describe it, made it that much more horrifying!
12:20 so,cool,hearing him talking about SHE’S THE WOMAN. It’s a great, classic VH song.
Agreed. Still wish they would’ve done that album with Michael Anthony
What an absolute thoroughly cool as shit interview. Makes me look forward to Als book release
Wow thanks for these interviews. Amazing
Thank you Steve. Thank you so much!!
Alex & Ed also spoke about their Vans & how they transported their gear around in them in this 2012 Interview with DLR talking too. They had some funny tales to tell in those interviews. Doors held shut by ropes & Alex's INGENIOUS ways of fitting his entire drumkit into a TINY little Van by strategic positioning like doing a Rubic Cube puzzle but on a much larger scale & with Ludwig toms ....lol
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These were great to listen to. I actually learned some cool stuff about Alex that I never knew before. I hope Alex talks a little about his gear in the early days. From the time Alex took over Edwards drums, which were pretty cheap, I am curious to know what he used up until he got his famous silver sparkle Ludwig set. I would also love to know the details about when and where he purchased that set as it must have cost a small fortune back in the early 70's. I know most people want to know about Ed's guitars (and I get it) but there are quite a few of us that really want to know more about Alex's drums. Thanks for putting these up Steve!
Their father came home from a gig pretty drunk one night, and tried to move their neighbor's trailer that was blocking their garage without noticing that the wheels were off. He pulled it off the blocks it was on and chopped off one of his fingers, which basically ended his musical career.
The following day he took several of his instruments to a music store and traded for a Ludwig kit and a Les Paul. There is a picture of the sales slip in the Greg Renoff book, I believe.
@@ricka5959wow I heard Eddie talk about his dad cutting off his finger. I’ve seen the sales receipt you’re referring to. I didn’t realize that Jan sold his instruments to buy their stuff.
This is amazing stuff Steve!
This is absolutely fantastic to listen to! Thank you Steve! Loving this interview and all parts of it!
Thanks for listening
Looking forward to this!
Thank you for posting this interview, it is awesome footage. Very nice to listen to one of the best drummers talking. In this interview he talks about DLR who screwed Ed's girlfriend and I know this is very true: Roth never mentioned it, but back in time it was a reason why Ed felt betrayed. Listening to this interview you know Al's words are the only ones you can trust. I cannot wait to read the book of this EXIT BOHEMIAN😊
Incredible. THANK YOU for posting this! 👍
No problem!
Most Excellent! Rock On!
Just amazing content; wish so much they’d make a movie about the Van Halen’s story (similar to what they did with “Bohemian Rhapsody”)… the script just writes itself, but would only be better than the other stories.
Thanks for posting these interviews!
More to come!
thanks!
Such a great providence that Ted didn't tell the guys he wanted Sammy in 1977. Would have destroyed everything!
Great video
It’s great listening to Alex tell the stories. It’s almost like (Alex and Eddie) they’re twins… thanks for getting this down on a recording :)
Such a fiery player, but he had awesome feel on the sweeter songs too. I sat at his graveside a few years ago and played him Tuesday’s Gone, having heard it was his favorite Skynyrd song. It was a real heavy moment, I felt like he appreciated it.
Great interview, very dark time for the band. I wish you asked more about the Gene Simmons demos.
SWEET JESUS!!!!
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For decades I have always said that "Believe Me" should have been the closing song on Fair Warning instead of "One Foot Out The Door".
Can’t wait to buy Alex’s book. Interestingly, it goes to show how strong personalities are. So Alex trashes Roth, and sometimes I think that is warranted very much so. He brings up Roth screwing a girl friend of Ed’s? If that’s true, that is shitty. However he trashed Monk, and according to Monk in his book, he did not care for Alex, and said that Alex on drugs or high at the time was trying to hit on and blatantly asked Monk’s wife to fuck while they were all on a plane together. If this is true, it just goes to show the bullshit humans display. If Monk’s story is true, Alex is a hypocrite. I disagreed with Monk however in calling Alex a mediocre drummer. Alex is an awesome drummer.
Omg snotty Scotty snd the hanky’s. “Come Eddie’ These guys are a joke. Going nowhere . Let s get some music going “”
Did anybody catch roth said he did Eddie’s girl ?? I heard that rumor I thought bs. But wtf. Was Roth referring to. VALERIE?????
NO....Roth was too macho/vain & seeing Women as 'conquests' for Valerie. ....Val wouldn't have wanted to know , trust me.
definitely not valerie
Alex laying the truth out there Respect buddy
Thank God they didn't seriously try to replace Roth with Hagar in 1977. The world is a better place because of it.
TWO TON TESSE ?? Are you a 30 stone Female Ukrainian WEIGHTLIFTER ? 🤔🤔🤣😂...Don't be 'shapist' misogynistic Evans....lol
I'm not sure today if Alex is happy with Sammy actually. That book 'RED' which Sammy wrote did some awful damage ....I think Sammy made a terrible mistake ...Particularly that chapter 'Crazy Ed' .....It should have been deleted from the book before publication....It was written in an unsympathetic way which failed to realized that Ed was going downhill with booze & substances because he was using them to obliterate the fear of that DAMN cancer hanging over his head like a sword of Damocles. Ed wasn't a 'bad' person really. He suffered & Sammy shouldn't have written a book capitalizing on that....But in more recent interviews with hindsight I think Sammy actually DOES regret writing that stuff & putting it out there. 🤥😔
Wow! Awesome, Steve! Thanks for putting this up. Wow!
Its always unfortunate when they dog out David Lee Roth. Without David Lee Roth they would not have been the phenomenon they were 😢
Truth.
Maybe his feelings changed now.
With Eddie they were gonna make it with or without Roth . Sammy was already playing 10 to 20,000 seaters as a solo artist you don't think if they put him as the singer for that band they wouldn't have made it? I guarantee they would have sammy already made it people knew who he was then you put this kick ass band behind him there's no way they fail. They didn't fail a few years later with him now did they. They got bigger and went up another level. You heard Alex talking about Roth not one time sing a complete song in the studio because he couldn't. And like Alex said again Roth vouldnt sing a complete song live in concert the guy wasn't much of a singer and why some of you people lie to yourself and say he's a great singer or I take that back you hardly ever say that it's he's a intertainer. Because he can't sing. In the studio he could try to sing one line at a time and the would doctor it up and piece it all together and you guys that don't know that say he can sing he songs great on the album. I just have to laugh at you Roth lovers that says he can sing.
@@davidritch4887 nowhere did I say he was a great singer. He did good on the albums but live he was lacking quite a bit. But he was undoubtedly an incredible front man. As far as Hagar is concerned, I thought he was excellent. I liked his solo stuff and his Van Halen years. Sammy was doing something on his own or with Montrose for years and he never crossed paths when Van Halen was beginning.
@mikerivera7509 I'd already heard this before and I watched Alex say it yesterday Ted Templeton wanted them to try and get Sammy as the lead singer before they made the first album. That's a fact I've known it for years.
Three on the tree or an automatic? at the same time you guys were doing this. I was driving around in an Econoline moving used furniture I think it was a 64. On the weekends I would move furniture and after school I would beat on my drums
And your meat.
34:26 damn
Johnny did you see my comments in the live comment section?
I saw the comments section ...Which ones were yours ?
Dave and Kim Miller?!
So Dave had just left?
Yes.
Surprised Al didn't mention Quiet Riot ... but he recognized the name Snow. Wolf said Al holds everything close to the vest and that Canadian woman they auditioned as a singer - what's her name - she said Al is clandestine ... but he seems very cool and open here.
Van Halen was already above Quiet Riot then.
Yeah, always. Randy did not write good music until he got to England in '80. But VH was also better than Snow, etc. Carlos Carvazo was not anything special, far from it.@@AllenGarberGuitarFun
Was that PATTY SMITHE ?
@@walterevans2118 Sass Jordan
@@SealofPerfection ‘sass Jordan’ ?
So Roth banged one of Eddie's girlfriends. That's explains alot. This is such a great interview. I'm shocked to hear the Terry Kilgore mention! Alex Van Halen is one of my drumming heroes! Total unorthodox type drummer and his kits were works of art. Next to Bonham, Alex VH had the best snare drum sound! If Alex reads this, thank you for the inspiration and great music!
Who was the girlfriend? Valerie? I'd heard rumours to that effect eons ago, but never heard anything beyond rumour. Not that it matters anymore. It just adds resolution to the overall picture.
@@e.l.nortonNO , it wouldn’t have been Valerie. I’m sure of that.
I think it was his girlfriend before meeting Valerie. She mentions it briefly in her book about how Ed mentioned his ex girlfriend cheated on him with his "friend" @e.l.norton
@@e.l.nortonIt was probably Kim Miller.
@@snoopypeanuts2666 Alex sounded angry here about DLR stealing this girlfriend from his younger brother….I think because DLR had been bragging about it and because Ed was a sensitive guy Alex knew that it would have badly affected him.
Good ol Blue Ford Econoline Van
Al..all aside..if Sammy took Dave's place in beginning those first 6 albums that changed my life would not be the same...😬😌
'A Rainy Monday Night' Was when VH got signed to the big record company Warner Bros. I don't know if my memory is playing tricks on me here but in an interview with Ed or Alex from the early 1980s they might have said that they changed the band name to the Space Brothers because before that they were called -'TROJAN RUBBER COMPANY' .......They were about to play in a CATHOLIC school & 'Trojan Rubber Company' were the name of a CONDOM manufacturer ....🤐😬🙄🤥.& the Catholic Nuns in the School went BALLISTIC so they had to change their name to 'Space Brothers'.....lol ....Steve, does Alex go into that 'Parachute Stunt' fiasco in Aneheim Stadium in 1978 ? ....It was doubles doing the jump but poor Alex injured his ankle just before that gig.
I read somewhere Alex got his foot caught on some of the parachute cords when acting like they were getting out of their parachutes.
@@gigitonsvajv OUCH ! 😖
That's the last of the interview?
3 more parts this weekend.
@SteveRosenInterviews Awesome!..Looking forward to it....I was 15 when you did these interviews with Alex in 1985.
I remember listening every night in bed waiting anxiously to hear the new Van Hagar song.
Then I got to see them in concert in Chicago April 22nd 1986.
@@bobc.5698 Was that at the ROSEMOUNT Chicago in 1986 ? .....I might even have that gig bootleg recorded on old Audio tape. At the gig they played Rock Candy as an encore & got a drunken guy out of the audience to sing JUMP....lol
@@walterevans2118 it was at R.H.
I know there is a boot of April 23rd out there......the 22nd boot I never heard.
@@bobc.5698 I just checked the two tapes of the gig at the Rosemount in my bootleg collection.....They are both dated 22nd of April 1986...On that tape soundtrack you were somewhere out there bobc ....lol
I rather listen to Alex tell these stories he seems more genuine than Ed, your getting the real story from him
He's not more genuine. Ed just wasn't a talker the way Alex is. Ed always said he said anything he had to say with his guitar. Ed didn't understand why people would care about any of this stuff. Just like he didn't think anyone would want to buy a striped guitar because it was so identified with him. He was an introvert. As one, I can attest that we don't like to talk. We don't like the attention. I don't think Ed was comfortable enough with very many people to open up too much. Only a handful.
@@e.l.norton Yes there were only few music journalists who Ed took into his confidence....Like Steven here and Jas Obrecht.
In the last six or seven minutes of the interview Alex slams Noel Monk for being a so-called manager. I read Noel's book and listened to his interviews. Seems like he did plenty for the band.
Keep in mind this was right after Monk was fired. What Alex would say in his book now about it would be completely different.
So now we know Classic Van Halen happened due to borrowed PA’s
And a guitar made from the mind of a mad scientist who didn’t have a lot of money. Frankenstrat
I hate hearing Alex talk like this 35:01
Both Dave and Noel helped his career tremendously. It’s a shame he can’t be honest with himself and realize/admit this.
Well, you have to realize that this interview was made in sept 1985 after Noel Monk & Dave had just left & there was bad blood in the press between DLR and the Brothers. Things did get BETTER later.....In 2012 DLR & The Brothers did interviews where they were forgiving each other for all the animosities.
I’m only 15 minutes into part 3 and it sure seems like Alex hasn’t ever even TRIED to chronologically retrace any of his own history at this point (‘85).
Having said that,
Van Halen is my favorite band, Ed my favorite guitarist and Alex one of the greatest influences on my drumming.
The movie MY BODYGUARD Had to be about Al. The muscle. My little brother is gonna change the world. GET OUTTA THE FKN WAY won't you
The more i hear AL talk on these interviews, the more it seems like he learned to speak English from watching re-runs of Dragnet.....lol.
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Dragnet ?? ....Dunno about that .....Though I once heard that EDWARD used to like plunking around on the VIOLIN to the music of the PETER GUNN tv series....lol 🎻
Being 100% Dutch myself and spending my life inundated in Dutch culture here is West Michigan Ed and Al's mastery of the English language, without a profound Dutch brogue, is truly impressive.
Reading the comments like🍿🍿🍿🍿👀👀👀🤣🤣🤣
Its kind of like 'entertainment' for folks clearly ...lol ....But I wouldn't want someone like Valerie to be reading some of the comments here where people are speculating that she was one of DLR's 'Conquests' .....That could upset her.
I'm sure she can handle it. Would be surprised if she even sees this TBH.@@walterevans2118
Hope you liked mine Holly ....lol
Alex has always come off like a complete prick but seems OK in these interviews. Feel bad for both him & Ed fighting alcohol & smoking their entire lives especially since, from the stories I've read, ol dad was a complete mess himself & they followed in his footsteps.
Its easy to be judgemental like that ....Don't be hard on their Dad. He went through a lot of things involving suffering. Like losing a finger in an accident , not getting the credit he deserved as a GREAT musician himself & much economic hardship.
Alex hated roth, but just goes to show money talks
Alex was the brighter of the 2 brothers, but thats not saying much. " Dave never sang a song straight through in the studio" No one does one take in multi track recording studios, even great vocalists, which Dave never was. Sammy surely comped his vocals. Shows Al was ignorant about quite a few things. Huge VH fan here who loved Eddie, but as i got older and heard more interviews realized that he and his brother could be dumb jerks fairly regularly.
Celine Dion did.
I don't think there's a need to insult Alex & Ed like that....Ed & Alex as musicians tended to get things often with as few takes as possible. Because they didn't need comps because they were such LIVE musicians. In fact those early VH albums were pretty much their LIVE sound with a bit of 'reverb' & very few overdubs or re-takes.
@TheDmonet ....You have to realize that when this interview was made by Alex in 1985 WW3 was brewing up in the media between DLR and the Brothers. DLR was stirring things up too about 'eating VH for breakfast' 'Eat Em & Smile' & these were in official interviews so God only knows what Dave was saying about the Brothers in unreleased BEHIND the scenes interviews like this one with Alex. Things DID get better between them as the years went by thankfully. At moments in this interview I actually started feeling sorry for Dave.
Nah Al is right, i Heard a story from the Engineer Erwin Musper who worked for VH and did the Me wise magic sessions with them. Dave had to sing word for word. We are not talking about comping several good takes but about a guy who can't even sing a single usable verse or chorus at once in the studio.
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🎸 keeping the Faith 💜😎
Sings .....😯 -'Daniel was the chief hired man of the land....He stirred up the Jazz in the Palace Band.....He whitewashed the Cellar, He shoveled in the coal,,,,And Daniel kept on praying - LORD SAVE MY SOUL' ! 😎😊 lol
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Nice!👍 Thank you for your reply Walter, enjoy the video and book. God bless 💜😎
Too negative Roth....insert any drummer kinda?...Roth, Eddie, and Templeman MADE VH1
'Insert any drummer' ? ....NOPE , go back & listen to the rhythm interplay between Edward & Alex. .....It was like E.S.P ...Plus a lot of Ed's riffs were shaped by Alex's rhythms....For evidence of this listen to out-take rehearsal recordings of Ed & Alex at 5150 rehearsing the stuff on 'Girl Gone Bad' BEFORE it had been crafted into a complete song.
If you’d never heard the real Van Halen, Van Hagar is acceptable, but not extraordinary.
Wtf hasn’t heard Van Halen? What a useless statement.
They were still Van Halen whether you like it or not.
@@TedDiabetes True. It is Van Halen, but without any heart and soul.
Any song is a chance to hear Ed I don’t care who the singer is
If you only loved Van Halen for Dave, then you aren't listening to Van Halen. It's Edward/Alex/Michael/Wolf with singers as the icing on the cake. Full stop.
Big fan of his playing. Tedious interview. Not the most likable chap.
'Two Ton Tessie ' ? - Don't be a Jesse.....Two Ton vessie monster in Lock Nessie .....Need a TENT to fit that DRESSIE ....lol (sorry, I'm being terrible this morning.)
The interview was trying to get details right. I thought it was nteresting.