Awesome folks over on the mage discord Altered Time have indeed figured out that there's a bug with Kindling/Unleashed Inferno. But at least it means fire will be subject to some changes soon.. give us those compensating buffs and stop neglecting one of the most fun specs in the game! 🔥
Fire dmg is one of the worst in the game right now, the nerf fire got this season is absolutely horrible, fire being my main spec I am currently crying tears smh
@@anime108amv2 They gonna buff fire on upcoming reset, but it's really not enough: -All ability damage increased by 6%. -Living Bomb damage increased by 25%.
I've played mainly tanks, in bfa I tried shadow priest and i was carried the whole way i was so bad. I've come back this x pac and really enjoying ranged squishes. your contents great mang
This is very interesting, been using flame strike build with combustion in heroics, I have to try this out now. This makes the right side off of the talent tree usable again lol
@@BiteSizeWoWwhats the bug ? Also this is still less dmg than the ignite build no? I did see Yesterday sometimes My combust just dumped 10 sec cd, in that case that could be the bug no?
Need quite a lot more. This number with this amount of mobs. There are some more specs being able to deal 3m+ on that pull. Lets hope for the best, but i love frost/arcane so much. Heroic dmg is not important anyway. The fastest frontloader wins.
Fury can press Avatar-Thunderous Roar-Bladestorm and isntantly do over 6m there, Arms even higher if you have a stacked Demolisher, Enhancement, Windwalker and Ret easily 3m+ and Sub Rogue and Sin can both do over 4m there, this is just from MY experience and the classes I play, some insane players out there deffinitely doing better and more insane numbers but 2.7m is not impressive in a pull like that unfortunately, especially with Time Warp :/
The hyperthermia build works better than anything into living bomb for me. The 25% ignite dmg buff and the Scorch 14% dmg buff make for a simple st build that works well in dung and raid. Aoe outside of combustion is impossible to compete but with combust the aoe is very acceptable. That fire blast should hit more targets could help a lot but I feel like to make the fire spec better u either need infinite phoenix or fire blast charges so u don’t get stuck hard casting fireballs when out of gas. Feels terrible does negative damage and could be avoided if u could idle in some pyros with infinite fire blasts until the cd is ready again. (Also would feel epic and a lot more fun) Or fire blast gets reduced cd and more charges to skip the hard cast hell of negative damage
yeah. to be honest, i think they need to remove living bomb talents. theyre finding it a balancing nightmare, no shame admitting it needs changing.. there's already ignite and flamestrike.. id probably just remove the living bomb talents and put ones to replace them that lean into those established playstyles
Fire is SOOOOOO fun :) I first thought Arcane was fun but tested fire out and its amazing! :) Tho I am only lvl 20 tho hehe Just came back from quiting during end of Cata.
It's hard to say right now as the kindling bug seems to be affecting other things in unintended ways. That build does seem decent though I agree, but unfortunately at this point with any talent build, fire just isn't on the same level as arcane. Hoping for some more changes soon, even if the gap just becomes a bit smaller!
@@willem9450 you kid, but you don't even know that it's actually true. There was a fight where the healer did more damage. I'm very low ilvl (360 something), but i followed near perfect rotation.....
In this dungeon I ran something like this www.wowhead.com/talent-calc/mage/fire/sunfury/DAPFRBlYQQUFRiFBVQCAQPUVRUERBURVGBRRRBEEFVVUBA however, the generally accepted optimal build currently even in dungeons is to simply take the single target build, as tuning on our aoe specific talents just seems so bad currently :(
Thankyou for this, I've not been able to get on today to try it out! I'm just hoping they come back next reset with some more buffs.. the gap between fire and other specs is just silly
The flame strike is from the Sunfury phoenix, I was using a mix of living bomb and ignite talents and not pressing flame strike Unfortunately, yeah.. fire has been massively left behind. I think it's deliberate as blizz wants arcane to have some time in the sun
No compared to other specs fire heavily underperforms if you mean that. Aoe is quite alright as you saw in this vid but it's singletarget lacks big time.
At least for high keys you need good funnel or just big st damage to delete bosses .. i mean.. Nice numbers but such a huge pull is unrealistic in any decent key especially with pug group.. even on hc you all died 😅 RIP FIRE
Awesome folks over on the mage discord Altered Time have indeed figured out that there's a bug with Kindling/Unleashed Inferno. But at least it means fire will be subject to some changes soon.. give us those compensating buffs and stop neglecting one of the most fun specs in the game! 🔥
it's just been meta for 3 seasons lol
@@liamdavies2823 you're taking shit from your ass
Dying bomb need at least another 70% buff to become a living bomb.
Sadly right now Fire's dps is unacceptable.
Very well put!
Fire dmg is one of the worst in the game right now, the nerf fire got this season is absolutely horrible, fire being my main spec I am currently crying tears smh
@@anime108amv2 They gonna buff fire on upcoming reset, but it's really not enough:
-All ability damage increased by 6%.
-Living Bomb damage increased by 25%.
@ExplorHits yeah.. needs more but, at least it shows blizzard are aware and it's slowly getting buffs.. I just hope they keep them coming
@@BiteSizeWoW I hope so too, Fire is so much fun to play.
I've played mainly tanks, in bfa I tried shadow priest and i was carried the whole way i was so bad. I've come back this x pac and really enjoying ranged squishes. your contents great mang
This is very interesting, been using flame strike build with combustion in heroics, I have to try this out now. This makes the right side off of the talent tree usable again lol
It'll definitely be hotfixed.. I think. But, hoping if it does that they'll realise fire needs a lot more help than the small buffs offered so far
@@BiteSizeWoWwhats the bug ? Also this is still less dmg than the ignite build no? I did see Yesterday sometimes My combust just dumped 10 sec cd, in that case that could be the bug no?
@@markmortensen8856 something with kindling, either too many spells are affecting it or the spells that do affect it are proccing it too many times
@@BiteSizeWoW they need to buff fire like a ton more ..
Need quite a lot more. This number with this amount of mobs. There are some more specs being able to deal 3m+ on that pull. Lets hope for the best, but i love frost/arcane so much.
Heroic dmg is not important anyway. The fastest frontloader wins.
Fury can press Avatar-Thunderous Roar-Bladestorm and isntantly do over 6m there, Arms even higher if you have a stacked Demolisher, Enhancement, Windwalker and Ret easily 3m+ and Sub Rogue and Sin can both do over 4m there, this is just from MY experience and the classes I play, some insane players out there deffinitely doing better and more insane numbers but 2.7m is not impressive in a pull like that unfortunately, especially with Time Warp :/
yeah but overall dps seems fine
The hyperthermia build works better than anything into living bomb for me.
The 25% ignite dmg buff and the Scorch 14% dmg buff make for a simple st build that works well in dung and raid.
Aoe outside of combustion is impossible to compete but with combust the aoe is very acceptable.
That fire blast should hit more targets could help a lot but I feel like to make the fire spec better u either need infinite phoenix or fire blast charges so u don’t get stuck hard casting fireballs when out of gas.
Feels terrible does negative damage and could be avoided if u could idle in some pyros with infinite fire blasts until the cd is ready again.
(Also would feel epic and a lot more fun)
Or fire blast gets reduced cd and more charges to skip the hard cast hell of negative damage
yeah. to be honest, i think they need to remove living bomb talents. theyre finding it a balancing nightmare, no shame admitting it needs changing.. there's already ignite and flamestrike.. id probably just remove the living bomb talents and put ones to replace them that lean into those established playstyles
how are you that fast fire blast cooldown ? I have got 9.5 sec and in other films me too see cooldown about 5 sec. ??
Hey, so that will likely just be resets from the mage tree talent Time Anomaly
Fire is SOOOOOO fun :) I first thought Arcane was fun but tested fire out and its amazing! :) Tho I am only lvl 20 tho hehe Just came back from quiting during end of Cata.
It's incredibly fun! Really awesome spec
cool video, can you tell me which plate addon and settings you use? it looks very nice
Thankyou! and they're in the description, the video from Quazii
What do you think about the flamestrike build (sunfury) without living bomb? Feels way stronger right now, in AOE & Single target.
It's hard to say right now as the kindling bug seems to be affecting other things in unintended ways. That build does seem decent though I agree, but unfortunately at this point with any talent build, fire just isn't on the same level as arcane. Hoping for some more changes soon, even if the gap just becomes a bit smaller!
It sucks major ass. It's doing half of what Arcane does.
@@phantasm5347 arcane is op right now. its going to get nerfed again
What's this mouse tracking addon thing called?
Weakaura called ultimate mouse cursor
@@BiteSizeWoW thanks !!
Living bomb is good when there is 26 targets, anything else it is just mediocre at best.
i went into the left side of the fire tree, did tank damage, and quit the spec. Maybe ill try this.
Below tank damage you mean 😅
@@willem9450 you kid, but you don't even know that it's actually true. There was a fight where the healer did more damage. I'm very low ilvl (360 something), but i followed near perfect rotation.....
@@jaydunna2645 i feel ya. Hurts bad man..:(
Hey, what talents are you running for dungeons?
In this dungeon I ran something like this www.wowhead.com/talent-calc/mage/fire/sunfury/DAPFRBlYQQUFRiFBVQCAQPUVRUERBURVGBRRRBEEFVVUBA
however, the generally accepted optimal build currently even in dungeons is to simply take the single target build, as tuning on our aoe specific talents just seems so bad currently :(
I've seen prot pally do 6mil on that pack haha
Prot pally is also busted on aoe damage atm.
We are it's great don't tell blizzard.
@@agavisanin744 squishy af though but pumpers
I don't know if it's me but it seems like they fixed it in today's update. 05/09/24
Thankyou for this, I've not been able to get on today to try it out! I'm just hoping they come back next reset with some more buffs.. the gap between fire and other specs is just silly
Hello, what kind of macro do you use for flamestrike ? Seems like your mouse is not on the target area
Ah that's not my flame strike, I wasn't using it, it's the flame strike cast from the phoenix with sunfury
I miss bfa fire mage so much
Yeeeah :(
For god ynnead, for ynnari
This reminded me that going through azj kahet I thought it could be so much cooler if the nerubians were Tyranids
Why were you pyroblasting instead of flamestrike? You were using both it seems?
Im playing fire and it seems so freaking bad.
The flame strike is from the Sunfury phoenix, I was using a mix of living bomb and ignite talents and not pressing flame strike
Unfortunately, yeah.. fire has been massively left behind. I think it's deliberate as blizz wants arcane to have some time in the sun
its oke bro i play fire mage too, its not in a greta spot atm, that pack is missleading i pump 3 mill on that ack with my gardiaun druid 570 ilvl..
Only issue is the damn melee killing everything too fast. 😂
Tell me about it! I see a ret paladin in a HC group and I cry. The gap between launch and mythic/m+ is feeling like an eternity
so is this fixed or no?
No compared to other specs fire heavily underperforms if you mean that. Aoe is quite alright as you saw in this vid but it's singletarget lacks big time.
I believe this particular bug has been fixed. Still some others remaining.. fire definitely didn't have enough time to cook. Ironically
@@BiteSizeWoW yeah... Thank you :)
after balance ?
Yeah this is after the buffs recently, but there's going to be more changes because this combustion cooldown reduction isn't intended
I got 5.4million Dps in that mob on heroic ret pala
Ret definitely has the most fun for bursty heroic dungeons
At least for high keys you need good funnel or just big st damage to delete bosses .. i mean.. Nice numbers but such a huge pull is unrealistic in any decent key especially with pug group.. even on hc you all died 😅
RIP FIRE
Fire is garbage atm, frost and arcane also feels 100x better to play tbh
I prefer how fire plays but it's completely subjective for sure. I can agree however that it's desperately needing more help from blizzard
@@BiteSizeWoWI’ll bet a months salary this guy hasn’t played all 3 specs and is just parroting the class discord.
These numbers are not very impressive, maybe in season 2 with some more stats Fire can do better