I ride a '99 Goldwing. My friend has a new street glide that is highly modified. I just got back from a short-ish 850 mile, three day (two days riding) trip...by myself because his bike's clutches have "lost their grasp". At last count, he had about $70,000 "invested". I have about $3800($400 of that in accessories) in mine. There are those who like telling folks how much they paid for something and those who prefer telling folks how LITTLE we paid for something...
That new Road Glide is ugly as a mofo, and I could never see spending $50k for a motorcycle let alone for a Harley and that’s coming from someone who’s owned several.
That new HD is something else. Not to mention if you get it for msrp you’ll be able to sell it next year and at least recoup your money, after all the riding. That Goldwing is definitely a good buy for $500, which I’m seriously doubting.
That Goldwing looks super-comfy especially if you're planning on having someone ride with you regularly... And with that price there's more than enough money left to fix it up to turn it into a real treat.
@@shblairI usually attribute it to more that people who buy them usually can afford to buy them new. These large cruisers are very common in the used market and drop in price quick. Still some of the best buys as they're usually the best maintained
@@shblairthey were all expensive when new, and they were seen as dorky and for old guys, so a lot of them were bought by dorky old guys with money to spend who took really good care of them. You don’t have to settle for a busted or mistreated GW because you can either save up another $200-$500, or just wait, and get one that was babied
@@imarubronzenI appreciate that you're being real and polite, but I dunno if we should talk about real people that work together like that. Maybe I'm tripping I don't know
I think they're great as a duo still. I love the idea of having several duos that work together part of one channel. not a lot of channels on youtube are able to have more than one popular duo.@@imarubronzen
My grandfather was a Goldwing guy. After he retired, he’d stick my grandmother on the back and they’d take off on insanely long road trips. They drove that thing all the way from TX to Alaska, then followed that up with a trip from TX to Central America.
Our grandparents should hang out..Mine road theirs from SoCal down through Mexico and down into Chile...they're crazy. I'll ride mine all over the State but through parts of Mexico and Central America can be a bit risky.
Do a series where you put $49,500 into it and make it 10x what the Harley is. Similar to your old vs new Honda series. Gullwings are the Cadillac of motorcycles, big boats that have the best seats for long drives and more options than you need. I've seen custom bikes that upgraded everything and added air ride suspension and look amazing.
It seems no matter how much you pay for a harley, you have to customize it to make it right. Goldwing doesn't have the "harley status," but it's aimed for a different crowd and more complete from the factory
never forget that harley had to lobby the US government to make foreign motorcycles more expensive...then they still went bankrupt like 5 times. Harley's are garbage motorcycles that exist solely on reputation because of geriatric old people who have a retirement fund to spend.
50K and you still have to add stuff to make it capable of doing what is meant to do? Go figure their market share is shrinking. *edited: used They're when should be Their.
Sonny Barger once said he hated the rule about having to own a Harley as a Hells Angel because he later grew to love the bikes that were coming out of Japan, and other parts of the world. However, he also said that it had originated as a way to support American manufacturing, as the club started post WWII when a lot of soldiers were coming back and working in factories. Not to mention Japan had been the enemy in the war.
I have owned several new Gold Wings in the 80s and 90s. I currently own the CVO Road Glide in Whiskey Neat. I agree with y’all’s assessment of the two bikes overall. With 2 ½ million miles behind me, I feel a touch qualified to make a judgement. 1. The HD suspension absolutely sucks - that’s why many owners are replacing it with far superior aftermarket brands. 2. The price of the HD is astronomical - everything with the Bar & Shield emblem is jacked up too high, 3. The accouterments are a definite plus on the RG. Only a few things to aggravate the owner: a. The saddle is a dud. I replaced mine with a custom rebuild which gave me copious amounts of joy, b. Electronics challenges (constant code alerts), c. All handlebar switches were swapped between left and right (takes a while to relearn), d. Nothing from the past Road Glides fit this new one. e. The four Wings that I owned and rode for over 300K, NEVER had a wrench turned on them, f. Among the twenty-two HDs that I had, EVERY ONE except two had maintenance issues ranging from drive belts to blown engines!! All of that being said, I’ll still keep my HD! THX for an informative and funny comparison video.
@@thekevinfranklin I get why he loves his harley; 'cuz theyre cool I have a GL1500 like in this video, and an HD Electra Glide (among others), and I wouldn't give up either of them. The GL is great for just jumping on and taking a ride. Besides the rubber timing belts that need to be done every 75k ish/5 years, it's literally the most reliable vehicle in my garage. 170k on it and counting. the EG on the other hand has had constant oil leak issues and it's been through two sets of timing tensioners, one of which blew an engine (it's a pre 2007 twin-cam, so this is a well known issue). I could go on with issues with the Harley for days, but that's not the point. The point is the Harley is cool :) It sounds like a stereotypical motorcycle going down the road, it's painted bright colors and has flames on the fuel tank, it's loud, brash, and has tons of chrome. It's so much more fun to walk out to than my goldwing. Think about driving a modern Lexus IS-350/500 versus a 1969 Coronet 440. The Lexus is more reliable, functional, and probably quicker to 60 than the coronet, but the coronet is 10,000x more interesting. Some specifics that are fun on the harley; The pegs are way out front, so it feels like you're leaning back. Not optimal for around town or through a mountain pass, but fun on the freeway and looks cool The handlebars are way up high, and the seat is down close to the ground, so you gotta reach up a little more than most bikes, giving it a different feel It has a suuper old style dash and handlebars. The Goldwing's bars are covered in plastic, while the harley has big chrome bars and big chrome dials. It just adds to the old muscle car feel. Iunno, that's basically what a harley is. Rolling americana, it's awesome :D As a side note, the Goldwing is literally the second most boring bike I've had. It has damn nearly no character, which is both a blessing and a curse. It's a blessing because i can't list a single thing it does badly. It's a curse because it makes the bike itself EXTREMELY boring. It's a bike you ride to get somewhere and not focus on the bike. "I'm taking a ride today" versus "I'm taking the harley out today." The GL, the ride is the adventure, the Harley (and most other bikes), the bike is the adventure.
You need to ride the current goldwing, it's more fun than a roadglide and makes more power as well 125 hp at just 5500 rpm. They've changed the whole bike, it has more features than a roadglide for half the price. The only reason to get a Harley now is if you like the looks and don't want to get looked down upon by Harley people who judge you for riding a Goldwing that's it. GW is plain better in ride and handling
@@addicz2that was the point. Take care of it with some new tires, sort the carbs out, swap fluids, go over it with a torque wrench, and you got yourself one helluva good, strong, and reliable bike for 1/15th the Harley. I love Harleys, but their touring shit just ain't there
I traded my 2020 Road Glide Limited for a 2018 Goldwing Tour DCT and have never been happier. The HD was like straddling a slow, heavy oven. Too hot to enjoy beyond 60 degrees. The Goldwing is all day easy and comfortable to ride and will run circles around the heavy American. I noticed you weren't able to put the Harley in reverse... Also, I had to spend an extra $1,200 for the HD heated seat, which in retrospect wasn't needed thanks to the rear cylinder crotch cooking feature it comes with.
@kincaid9134 as a harley owner who also owns and has owned several Hondas, kawasaki, and Ducati bikes over the years, I will say this. It's a matter of preference. No honda will ever sound like a harley, and for many, that's what the big draw is. My 2013 harley ultra just sounds and rides amazing. I also currently own a 99 Honda valkyrie. They are pretty close in creature comforts, but the valk has a lot more performance.
@@Mount56 My super tenere with an aftermarket slip on and new headers sounds way better than any Harley I've heard. But then again, you're definitely right. It is preference. Some people like the sound of their engine rattling apart and gaskets leaking everywhere.
@@Mount56as a none Harley rider but I respect the hell out of their heritage. Us motorcyclist are strange bunch, we don't really care which is better, we just go by what appeals to us as we walk away from it. I ride a Tuono Factory and 1290SDR. Those bikes aren't what many would call good bikes let alone reliable lol.
@@kincaid9134 And here you are bringing up rattleing and gaskets leaking...You realize that bullshit was from the 60s and 70s when the AMF owned Harley? When Willie G davidson and Vaugh Beals got a bunch other investors to buy back harley things started to change, Namely with the development of the Evo engine and today with the Milwaukee 8. The twin cam engine was one of the best performing and most reliable ever created. So rather than just regurgitating the same played out forum posts from others that dont really have much in the way of interest to understand, educate yourself.
i love that oyu guys started doing bike stuff... it feels so natural and amazing coming from you guys and id say please do more of this...it now feels like it was way overdue
Please more bike content, this is such a great video and its great to see Donut branching out more into all vehicles instead of just cars. One of the videos I've actually enjoyed watching recently. Would love to see more!
@@deborahchesser7375 There was one I was looking at local to me trhat just sold for just under $500 so they are out there....I wanted a sport bike though.
Northern states. Old guys don’t ride em for awhile and I think it’s 6 carbs and they just don’t wanna deal with it. Maybe not $500 but I’ve seen a few “good”condition older goldwings for under a grand
@@deborahchesser7375 Cheap bikes all over the place in the northeast... $500 runners exist, but the real sweet spot is 12-1500 for a bike that is a tune-up away from being your best bitch
If anyone hasn't seen a Goldwing ripping up The Dragon's Tail, make sure to take time and watch the videos. It's a big bike, but it can really rip through trails. Most importantly, you are comfortable while doing so. We had a guy with a ~2015 Goldwing that would ride with us on sport bikes and I was always impressed how well he could keep up. It did help he did amateur sport bike racing, but it's impressive seeing that big bagger on it's side scraping through corners.
I had a 2014 Goldwing Valkyrie which is the muscle cruiser. 118 HP, 124 lb/ft of torque, shaft drive, and a single sided swing arm. It was a VERY fast bike for its weight and should not be underestimated. The flat six engine is amazing and smooth as silk.
Was going to say the Valkyrie was the only other bike with the flat 6 if I'm not mistaken. They used to advertise it's smoothness by placing a quarter on the engine 👌🏾
@@Willbrsei will never buy a Harley. They were once good cycle but then they became a business name. Sport is useless and touring is not as good as they promote.
That’s the general conclusion among real riders. Once you actually ride and know something about motorcycles, you realize Harley’s are garbage and for people who like the idea of riding motorcycles, not actual riding. Essentially posers
Love the bike content. I do wish you would have compared the Goldwing to a Harley Davidson Ultra classic. The Ultra Classic has a huge passenger seat with a comfortable backrest, just like the Gold Wing. I think that would have been a more far comparison
I love the motorcycle content. Please keep it going. Jerry and Nolan are one of my favorites to watch on UA-cam but I find myself watching other channels with motorcycle content instead. As that other guy said a moneypit series on it would be awesome and probably significantly cheaper than a car as well. I feel like Nolan would do very good up to speeds on them as well and there’s quite a few he could make. Or even more history focused would would be cool. Either way more motorcycles please.
Nice to see you guys steering towards bikes! The Goldwing is a forever classic, and the new ones are INSANELY smooth. Here’s an interesting hot topic for a next video… Harley Davidson Road Glide LTD, vs Indian Challenger LTD.
Harley Davidson seems so lost. I never really understood Goldwings when I was younger, but now I totally see how it could be amazing! I just think you cannot be stressed when you're on that thing, life just rolls by comfortably.
Harley-Davidson is running out of old men to pay as much as a decent new car for their 1950s bikes. Their electric bike is a failure because you can't hear it coming from the next county. I'd rather have the Goldwing. Quiet, runs like a sewing machine, lasts forever, comfortable, reliable, doesn't shake. It's a two-wheeled car. Just get on and cruise.
HD has more people then ever and I love how all of you that have never ridden a day in your life talk like you know anything about motorcycles or HD. Maybe you kids should try and get on a bike instead of running your mouths
Goldwings are fantastic bikes. My dad has had various versions of them for the past 40 years. He's been across the country on them more than once. I've also known a couple people who have stripped them down and made them into killer cafe racer-style bikes. That's what I'd like to do.
We made fun of Goldwings in high school (early 90s) as the ultimate passenger's bike for having cushy seats and air conditioning. 30 years later it's crazy that's still true, but as a middle ager I now see that as a good thing!
My dad has a new Goldwing. Thing's a beast. Shape is still similar, has plenty of power and torque, comfy and, yes, still has reverse. The bike weighs a LOT, so the reverse is there to help you move it. Would recommend.
PLEASE more motorcycle content! The first video I watched on donut media was a motorcycle one. I ended up sticking around for the hilarious car content, but I'm a rider at heart and seeing these vids always brings a smile to my face!
@um_fu1326 I actually bought 2. One is just a nonrunning donor I got for 350. But I have seen a few going in the thousands. Honestly if I had the money to burn I'd buy one. It's a pain restoring these things 😅
I’d love to see y’all’s take on a newer Goldwing vs a Harley. The newer wings are apparently even better than the GL1500. And I mean newer as in any GL1800 so about 2002 and up 😂😂😂
Keep in mind there are three generations named GL1800 now! The '02-'09 got refreshed heavily for '10-17 and the 2018+ model shares basically nothing with the previous generations. I'd like to see the current bagger 'wing vs this Harley for sure.
@@TheCallMeCrazy that’s exactly what I’m saying. And any of them would probably be better than the CVO. Of course I’d love to see a flagship 2023 go head to head with the Harley but I bet that a sub $10k 2010 would be a good comparison too
Fun video. The low center of gravity on the Goldwing sold me. I'm not a big guy, so it's easy to ride, and the DCT is even more so. I had a Road Glide some time ago and love the shark nose fairing's style. Ride what makes you happy.
This video seems like it has more thought and effort put in compared to some recent examples, they put a lot of effort into the theming of the video and emphasizing how Zach and Jerry interact. A lot more fun of a time then I expected out of current donut
I bought a 89 Goldwing when i was 19 years old. To this day one of my favorite bikes. I have had 16 motorcycles from sport bikes to naked bikes to duel sports ect. My last bike was my favorite 2020 Yamaha MT09. But that old ass goldwing is my 2nd favorite bike. It had 100k miles when i bought it. I literally would get friends to sit on the back and we could do a wheelie. If nobody was on the back it would do a rolling burnout. Bike was only a beast for its size and age. I drove tf out of it for a little over a year. Nothing ever broke on the bike it was fantastic to drive.
wow all the comfortable with your masculinity was very educational at the end - but yea for a non biker guy i liked this bike thing - love the goldwing you should do more episodes on it.
The fact that the GW is in such usable condition at twenty years of age is both a tribute to the excellent quality of the parts and the wonderful build quality, and also means that it has received the essential servicing it needs to stay alive for such a long time. Nowadays it probably deserves a major service so that it can roll around laughing for tens of thousands of miles again :D It's a wonderful machine!
That's the beauty I'm the Honda. You can beat it and not maintain it and it just keeps running.... (I wouldn't personally very strict on maintenance)... the HD will fail and leak oil and cost a fortune to fix even with proper service.
@@shelbyhammons9290hey if I were you, I'd lay off the crack. Any vehicle will have issues regardless of make if you don't properly service them. Now the Harley will likely have issues because of the VVT, but other then that they're actually fairly cheap to rebuild. Might want to look into it before opening your mouth
@@jerlaine1638people just like to hate them.. I don’t even like them but I’d rather have one than a gold wing.. Domt know a single rider that would ride a gold wing unless they’re over 60 or absolutely have to.. Everything you want from a motorcycle Harley offers and so many other better bikes than a gold wing.. I mean bikes and beards is usually the go to, he’s given praise to the gold wing but would never give up his road king for one.
Pakistan here, the most you could get for 500$ is a 150CC motorcycle, A Suzuki GS150. I would sell my 150 in a heartbeat if someone offered me a Goldwing for 500$.
Love seeing the motorcycle representation guys. Would love to Jeremiah and Jobe build/rebuild an awesome old bike. Hell, rebuild the Goldwing. Anyways, ride safe and ride hard. Like you said, we're all one big 2-wheeled family.
@@adriandaw3451I think the commenter means get a more comparable bike to the Goldwing… such as a Road Glide. Not add on more stuff to the HD in the video lol
I had a 1981 gl500 interstate.. very nice bike. Air ride, long travel suspension, front disc, liquid cooled, shaft driven, over padded seat.. very very nice bike
The CVO Road Glide Limited does come with a backrest. The bike you guys had doesn't seem to have been a Limited, just a standard CVO Road Glide. If that is the case this bike is only around $43k unless you're including potential markup for the dealerships. Still a staggering price difference.
@@rustler08 They are different style bikes meant for different purposes, and you don't need tons of HP for a motorcycle that isn't being used on track. I doubt the V-Max even cares if it was even capable of caring.
9:54 I understand Joby's concerns fully. Imagine having road rash and injuries that people ask about. Then having to choose to either lie about how it happened, or tell them the truth, and admit to wrecking while riding nuts to butts on the back of a Goldwing.
@@shblair That's not a how a motorcycle accident works, man. You're getting rash and coming off of both of them. There's a reason bikes don't have seat belts.
The Honda Goldwing is undoubtedly a clear winner in terms of reliability for the $500 price compared to the $50,000 Harley. 😂 I recently completed a solo cross-country trip on my 2003 BMW R1150 GSA, which has over 215,000 miles on it
And you didn't mention that the GW has an onboard compressor to load and unload the rear air suspension (and consequently its height from the ground). If, before the curves, you load it some more that thing will be far better to ride. Then, when the highway begins again, unload a little and gain comfort. The front suspension hardens itself when you're braking. Pretty cool for a thing from like 30 years ago, isn't it?😉😎 Edit: that onboard compressor can be used also to inflate the tires
I spent a very significant amount of time in that gen goldwing. I can confirm the passenger can totally chill and catch some sleep back there. Still decent fun to drive, too.
Now we need a money pit series for that goldwing.
Nah
@@bosch_doc yeah we do
Hell yeah
Please!!!!!
@bosch9905 yes (you are not winning this)
The fact a 28 year old Goldwing still holds up, says a lot about crazy well built they are.
Goldwing is the Goat
my 1991 goldwing starts up better than most of my friends new BMWs lol
That's what a flat-6 will do for ya!
@@michaelchernobelsky4232give me yours
It’s a honda, of course it’ll last for eternity. But whats crazier is that it’s just 500 bucks
Please give that goldwing some love, literally a boss of a bike. Seems it’s been looked after quite well for how old it is
I mean Harley or Goldwing or Vespa ....but that thing they were riding...that was a Harley? Weren't Harleys meant to be beautiful ?
@@TremereTT no. Harleys were meant to be loud and obnoxious.
My heart has broken when this hungry attention dude did a burnout with this motorcycle.
"This motorcycle literally has employees yall."
I ride a '99 Goldwing.
My friend has a new street glide that is highly modified.
I just got back from a short-ish 850 mile, three day (two days riding) trip...by myself because his bike's clutches have "lost their grasp".
At last count, he had about $70,000 "invested".
I have about $3800($400 of that in accessories) in mine.
There are those who like telling folks how much they paid for something and those who prefer telling folks how LITTLE we paid for something...
the fact that Jerry can be on two different bikes on screen at the same time is further evidence of Jerry and Zach being the same person
Ok what about Jerry, Jerry, and Zach being on the same thing 🤔 in the same frame
Well in of them is Uncle Jerry the other in is Jerry it’s pretty simple
As the saying goes "I have no proof but I have no doubts neither" hahahaha
@@kotajames6211 Jedi mind tricks
@@Taylor666CR " Now... I'm not saying that YOU are Batman, but I have never seen you and him in the same room at the same time..."
I’ll take the Goldwing for $500 Alex.
Correct answer 😂
That new Road Glide is ugly as a mofo, and I could never see spending $50k for a motorcycle let alone for a Harley and that’s coming from someone who’s owned several.
I have a 93 Honda Goldwing it's awesome.
Maybe for 5000 you can find one.. maybe
That new HD is something else. Not to mention if you get it for msrp you’ll be able to sell it next year and at least recoup your money, after all the riding. That Goldwing is definitely a good buy for $500, which I’m seriously doubting.
That Goldwing looks super-comfy especially if you're planning on having someone ride with you regularly... And with that price there's more than enough money left to fix it up to turn it into a real treat.
Exactly, plus that harley is ugly lol.
they are cheap coz they made millions of them, not necessarily coz of disrepair.
@@shblairI usually attribute it to more that people who buy them usually can afford to buy them new. These large cruisers are very common in the used market and drop in price quick. Still some of the best buys as they're usually the best maintained
@@shblairthey said there was things wrong with it though. Did they not?
@@shblairthey were all expensive when new, and they were seen as dorky and for old guys, so a lot of them were bought by dorky old guys with money to spend who took really good care of them. You don’t have to settle for a busted or mistreated GW because you can either save up another $200-$500, or just wait, and get one that was babied
Donut doing motorcycle content is what we all need
As someone who loves cars and bikes seeing Donut expanding to bikes as well fills my heart
Same but not my heart just my dopamine receptors
Jerry and Jobey quickly became the go to duo at Donut, didn't they?
And I'm here for it. Those two work fantastically together
I don’t know why, but James and Nolan just don’t work together for me anymore.
I ship it
As long as we don’t have to see that crack head james tweaking on camera I’m all for it
@@imarubronzenI appreciate that you're being real and polite, but I dunno if we should talk about real people that work together like that. Maybe I'm tripping I don't know
I think they're great as a duo still. I love the idea of having several duos that work together part of one channel. not a lot of channels on youtube are able to have more than one popular duo.@@imarubronzen
My grandfather was a Goldwing guy. After he retired, he’d stick my grandmother on the back and they’d take off on insanely long road trips. They drove that thing all the way from TX to Alaska, then followed that up with a trip from TX to Central America.
Our grandparents should hang out..Mine road theirs from SoCal down through Mexico and down into Chile...they're crazy. I'll ride mine all over the State but through parts of Mexico and Central America can be a bit risky.
Your grandad is a legend.
YOUR GRANDFATHER WAS LIVING THE DREAM!!
Incredible!
Just proves that you're never to old to have adventures. Good on them.
Do a series where you put $49,500 into it and make it 10x what the Harley is. Similar to your old vs new Honda series. Gullwings are the Cadillac of motorcycles, big boats that have the best seats for long drives and more options than you need. I've seen custom bikes that upgraded everything and added air ride suspension and look amazing.
More motorcycle content!!! And I love the relationship Jerry and Jobe have going, it’s just sweet. Just buds doing fun things together.
It seems no matter how much you pay for a harley, you have to customize it to make it right. Goldwing doesn't have the "harley status," but it's aimed for a different crowd and more complete from the factory
I mean, Harleys are worlds most expensive semi-finished products. And as a Harley owner I really do confirm this.
Yeah and believe me when I say GOOD..... Harley is geriatric highway riders and “tough” guys who want to be told where to be by a club.
never forget that harley had to lobby the US government to make foreign motorcycles more expensive...then they still went bankrupt like 5 times. Harley's are garbage motorcycles that exist solely on reputation because of geriatric old people who have a retirement fund to spend.
50K and you still have to add stuff to make it capable of doing what is meant to do? Go figure their market share is shrinking.
*edited: used They're when should be Their.
Sonny Barger once said he hated the rule about having to own a Harley as a Hells Angel because he later grew to love the bikes that were coming out of Japan, and other parts of the world.
However, he also said that it had originated as a way to support American manufacturing, as the club started post WWII when a lot of soldiers were coming back and working in factories. Not to mention Japan had been the enemy in the war.
I want a whole episode of Jerry and Jobe giving that Goldwing some TLC.
I have owned several new Gold Wings in the 80s and 90s.
I currently own the CVO Road Glide in Whiskey Neat.
I agree with y’all’s assessment of the two bikes overall.
With 2 ½ million miles behind me, I feel a touch qualified to make a judgement.
1. The HD suspension absolutely sucks - that’s why many owners are replacing it with far superior aftermarket brands.
2. The price of the HD is astronomical - everything with the Bar & Shield emblem is jacked up too high,
3. The accouterments are a definite plus on the RG.
Only a few things to aggravate the owner:
a. The saddle is a dud. I replaced mine with a custom rebuild which gave me copious amounts of joy,
b. Electronics challenges (constant code alerts),
c. All handlebar switches were swapped between left and right (takes a while to relearn),
d. Nothing from the past Road Glides fit this new one.
e. The four Wings that I owned and rode for over 300K, NEVER had a wrench turned on them,
f. Among the twenty-two HDs that I had, EVERY ONE except two had maintenance issues ranging from drive belts to blown engines!!
All of that being said, I’ll still keep my HD!
THX for an informative and funny comparison video.
Curious as to why you'd keep the Harley. From everything you listed, it sounds terrible! What are some reasons to love it?
@@thekevinfranklin I get why he loves his harley; 'cuz theyre cool
I have a GL1500 like in this video, and an HD Electra Glide (among others), and I wouldn't give up either of them. The GL is great for just jumping on and taking a ride. Besides the rubber timing belts that need to be done every 75k ish/5 years, it's literally the most reliable vehicle in my garage. 170k on it and counting.
the EG on the other hand has had constant oil leak issues and it's been through two sets of timing tensioners, one of which blew an engine (it's a pre 2007 twin-cam, so this is a well known issue). I could go on with issues with the Harley for days, but that's not the point.
The point is the Harley is cool :)
It sounds like a stereotypical motorcycle going down the road, it's painted bright colors and has flames on the fuel tank, it's loud, brash, and has tons of chrome. It's so much more fun to walk out to than my goldwing. Think about driving a modern Lexus IS-350/500 versus a 1969 Coronet 440. The Lexus is more reliable, functional, and probably quicker to 60 than the coronet, but the coronet is 10,000x more interesting.
Some specifics that are fun on the harley;
The pegs are way out front, so it feels like you're leaning back. Not optimal for around town or through a mountain pass, but fun on the freeway and looks cool
The handlebars are way up high, and the seat is down close to the ground, so you gotta reach up a little more than most bikes, giving it a different feel
It has a suuper old style dash and handlebars. The Goldwing's bars are covered in plastic, while the harley has big chrome bars and big chrome dials. It just adds to the old muscle car feel.
Iunno, that's basically what a harley is. Rolling americana, it's awesome :D
As a side note, the Goldwing is literally the second most boring bike I've had. It has damn nearly no character, which is both a blessing and a curse. It's a blessing because i can't list a single thing it does badly. It's a curse because it makes the bike itself EXTREMELY boring. It's a bike you ride to get somewhere and not focus on the bike. "I'm taking a ride today" versus "I'm taking the harley out today." The GL, the ride is the adventure, the Harley (and most other bikes), the bike is the adventure.
You need to ride the current goldwing, it's more fun than a roadglide and makes more power as well 125 hp at just 5500 rpm. They've changed the whole bike, it has more features than a roadglide for half the price. The only reason to get a Harley now is if you like the looks and don't want to get looked down upon by Harley people who judge you for riding a Goldwing that's it. GW is plain better in ride and handling
I love that we get motorcycle content now. And these two as a duo rock!
They are taking one for the team - straight up Nutz to Buttz....
Yes! More Donut Motorcycle content!!!!!
Jeremiah’s videos got me into bikes 👍
@@surfer101ist Congrats! What bike did you get?
Exactly what we needed
HD is throwing those bikes at anyone with a camera.
@DontReadMyProfilePicture.185 don't worry I won't. Stupid anyways
A Hi/Low motorcycle series would be amazing!
Wouldn't be very much content.
Yes!!! Start with SV650s and build hi/low track day bikes.
Or a DRZ400 hi/lo
All for this!
I was thinking the same!
Laughed so hard with this episode. Especially the, “we look like we pooled our money together” 🤣
I'd take Goldwing instead, I dig the storage on it. It would make a great traveling bike for sure.
Add another $500-$1000 to repair things and the goldwing can become a cheap fun ride
@@enderan647at least not another $50K
@@addicz2that was the point. Take care of it with some new tires, sort the carbs out, swap fluids, go over it with a torque wrench, and you got yourself one helluva good, strong, and reliable bike for 1/15th the Harley. I love Harleys, but their touring shit just ain't there
I would take anything over a Harley. 😆
I mean only for 500$, sheesh that's one good deal
I traded my 2020 Road Glide Limited for a 2018 Goldwing Tour DCT and have never been happier. The HD was like straddling a slow, heavy oven. Too hot to enjoy beyond 60 degrees. The Goldwing is all day easy and comfortable to ride and will run circles around the heavy American. I noticed you weren't able to put the Harley in reverse... Also, I had to spend an extra $1,200 for the HD heated seat, which in retrospect wasn't needed thanks to the rear cylinder crotch cooking feature it comes with.
I wish more Harley owners would just give it up and switch to better brands. HD really is an embarrassing line of transportation.
@kincaid9134 as a harley owner who also owns and has owned several Hondas, kawasaki, and Ducati bikes over the years, I will say this.
It's a matter of preference. No honda will ever sound like a harley, and for many, that's what the big draw is. My 2013 harley ultra just sounds and rides amazing. I also currently own a 99 Honda valkyrie. They are pretty close in creature comforts, but the valk has a lot more performance.
@@Mount56 My super tenere with an aftermarket slip on and new headers sounds way better than any Harley I've heard. But then again, you're definitely right. It is preference. Some people like the sound of their engine rattling apart and gaskets leaking everywhere.
@@Mount56as a none Harley rider but I respect the hell out of their heritage. Us motorcyclist are strange bunch, we don't really care which is better, we just go by what appeals to us as we walk away from it. I ride a Tuono Factory and 1290SDR. Those bikes aren't what many would call good bikes let alone reliable lol.
@@kincaid9134 And here you are bringing up rattleing and gaskets leaking...You realize that bullshit was from the 60s and 70s when the AMF owned Harley? When Willie G davidson and Vaugh Beals got a bunch other investors to buy back harley things started to change, Namely with the development of the Evo engine and today with the Milwaukee 8. The twin cam engine was one of the best performing and most reliable ever created.
So rather than just regurgitating the same played out forum posts from others that dont really have much in the way of interest to understand, educate yourself.
i love that oyu guys started doing bike stuff... it feels so natural and amazing coming from you guys and id say please do more of this...it now feels like it was way overdue
that Goldwing needs to be a project bike series, great vid!
Please more bike content, this is such a great video and its great to see Donut branching out more into all vehicles instead of just cars. One of the videos I've actually enjoyed watching recently. Would love to see more!
What’s awesome is how cool that gold wing looks if you take the fairing off. It could be turned into so many different configurations for $500.
Where in the Hell does one buy a $500 GW ? I’d buy em all day for that, especially vs a POS HD
@@deborahchesser7375 I see them that cheap in the mid-west ohio michigan illinois indiana
@@deborahchesser7375 There was one I was looking at local to me trhat just sold for just under $500 so they are out there....I wanted a sport bike though.
Northern states. Old guys don’t ride em for awhile and I think it’s 6 carbs and they just don’t wanna deal with it. Maybe not $500 but I’ve seen a few “good”condition older goldwings for under a grand
@@deborahchesser7375 Cheap bikes all over the place in the northeast... $500 runners exist, but the real sweet spot is 12-1500 for a bike that is a tune-up away from being your best bitch
If anyone hasn't seen a Goldwing ripping up The Dragon's Tail, make sure to take time and watch the videos. It's a big bike, but it can really rip through trails. Most importantly, you are comfortable while doing so. We had a guy with a ~2015 Goldwing that would ride with us on sport bikes and I was always impressed how well he could keep up. It did help he did amateur sport bike racing, but it's impressive seeing that big bagger on it's side scraping through corners.
wish i could find a 500-dollar motorcycle that runs and drives.
Jerry and Jobe, the dynamic duo is back at it
Hell yeah. Good chemistry between the two on video!
Ambiguously Gay Duo
@@kayakchrispyyea guys, Schmitz gay!
Yup, we now need this to be a full season of Jerry and Jobe going from coast to coast on an antique Goldwing.
That goldwing would eat that trip EASILY, as opposed to the harley lol
The "wrong" bike is NO bike.
I own a gl1200. Love it
Never dropping 50k on a scooter 😅
I had a 2014 Goldwing Valkyrie which is the muscle cruiser. 118 HP, 124 lb/ft of torque, shaft drive, and a single sided swing arm. It was a VERY fast bike for its weight and should not be underestimated. The flat six engine is amazing and smooth as silk.
I owned 2 valks 99 interstate and a 2001 touring loved them both ,never a problem smooth ride and tons of power.
Don't forget; best sounding motorcycle ever made
My buddy had one of the first Valkyries and it was like a spaceship compared to a Harley.
Was going to say the Valkyrie was the only other bike with the flat 6 if I'm not mistaken. They used to advertise it's smoothness by placing a quarter on the engine 👌🏾
I have a 2007 Suzuki M109R cruiser, 125hp, smokes every cruiser on the highway 😁, except the Rocket 3 GT...😢
Nutz to butts on The Harley!!! Fitting!
Honestly this makes me want a Goldwing more than the Harley.
Same. I thought both would prefer the Goldwing tbh
@@Willbrsei will never buy a Harley. They were once good cycle but then they became a business name. Sport is useless and touring is not as good as they promote.
That’s the general conclusion among real riders. Once you actually ride and know something about motorcycles, you realize Harley’s are garbage and for people who like the idea of riding motorcycles, not actual riding. Essentially posers
A Harley is a 50k boomer cosplay accessory
Do it!!!
Oh man, now we just need a Donut vs. Revzilla motorcycle adventure episode!
Yes please!
Add in Ryan from Fortnine too!!
Ryan, Ari, and Donut.
Please. I need it !
Yes!!! The ultimate mash up… and wtf.. kick in Doug D to give it a doug score OH and Mr Regular from Philly
It shows how well made the Honda is. Goldwing vs Goldwing makes more sense but wouldn't be as entertaining.
Love the bike content. I do wish you would have compared the Goldwing to a Harley Davidson Ultra classic. The Ultra Classic has a huge passenger seat with a comfortable backrest, just like the Gold Wing. I think that would have been a more far comparison
I love the motorcycle content. Please keep it going. Jerry and Nolan are one of my favorites to watch on UA-cam but I find myself watching other channels with motorcycle content instead. As that other guy said a moneypit series on it would be awesome and probably significantly cheaper than a car as well. I feel like Nolan would do very good up to speeds on them as well and there’s quite a few he could make. Or even more history focused would would be cool. Either way more motorcycles please.
Nice to see you guys steering towards bikes! The Goldwing is a forever classic, and the new ones are INSANELY smooth. Here’s an interesting hot topic for a next video… Harley Davidson Road Glide LTD, vs Indian Challenger LTD.
Came here to say the exact same thing! Zach will dig the pillion setup on the Challenger for sure. Lol😂
Air cooled Vs water cooled + summer time? Water cooled wins all day long
No one does 2 up motorcycle reviews and I don't know why, it's hands down way better. More please.
Most guys are motorcycle reviewers and don’t want to go Nutz to Buttz
Especially Zach not really having any motorcycle experience, and Jerry having plenty; you really get both perspectives.
Motorcyclist magazine does. Check them out.
I love seeing Jeremiah cover Motorcycles, you can tell it makes him super happy
love this kinda content. Zach and Jeremiah have great chemistry working together
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They are my favorite pairing. Like Nolan and James.
I’d take the Goldwing 24/7/365. Also, I can’t believe Jobie didn’t take a nap on the Wing. That’s a Goldwing passengers favorite thing to do.
Harley Davidson seems so lost. I never really understood Goldwings when I was younger, but now I totally see how it could be amazing! I just think you cannot be stressed when you're on that thing, life just rolls by comfortably.
Yeah, it's kind of reminiscent of those massive Lincolns you would see in the U.S. in the late 50s early 60s.
@@kylejohnson423 yeah if those massive lincolns had an under 4 second 0-60 lol
@@Chicken_4_Dayz I mean there's a reason they were called hot rod Lincolns *fingerguns*
Harley-Davidson is running out of old men to pay as much as a decent new car for their 1950s bikes. Their electric bike is a failure because you can't hear it coming from the next county. I'd rather have the Goldwing. Quiet, runs like a sewing machine, lasts forever, comfortable, reliable, doesn't shake. It's a two-wheeled car. Just get on and cruise.
HD has more people then ever and I love how all of you that have never ridden a day in your life talk like you know anything about motorcycles or HD. Maybe you kids should try and get on a bike instead of running your mouths
Goldwings are fantastic bikes. My dad has had various versions of them for the past 40 years. He's been across the country on them more than once.
I've also known a couple people who have stripped them down and made them into killer cafe racer-style bikes. That's what I'd like to do.
We made fun of Goldwings in high school (early 90s) as the ultimate passenger's bike for having cushy seats and air conditioning. 30 years later it's crazy that's still true, but as a middle ager I now see that as a good thing!
My dad has a new Goldwing. Thing's a beast. Shape is still similar, has plenty of power and torque, comfy and, yes, still has reverse. The bike weighs a LOT, so the reverse is there to help you move it. Would recommend.
This was one of the best Donut videos lately. I laughed really hard
More motorcycle videos! This was good stuff!
PLEASE more motorcycle content! The first video I watched on donut media was a motorcycle one. I ended up sticking around for the hilarious car content, but I'm a rider at heart and seeing these vids always brings a smile to my face!
Production quality keeps getting better. Insane!
Please continue making content with the Goldwing. It's such a neat bike!
For real. Please do.
Yes I love it!
I put that yellow sign up in the background at 11:26!!!! That coyote is there 90% of the time I drive by his name is ELcoyote
These two dudes can’t make a bad video!
That GoldWing cannot cost 500$ that's crazy, but stilll it will beat Harley by comfort even in the worst condition possible...
Hell yes! That’d be awesome 😂
Got mines for 500 off Craigslist 😉
I’ve seen gold wings go as low as $250 and as high as 5 grand they normally don’t sell for 5 but they are listed
@um_fu1326 I actually bought 2. One is just a nonrunning donor I got for 350. But I have seen a few going in the thousands. Honestly if I had the money to burn I'd buy one. It's a pain restoring these things 😅
Picked up a 97 GL1500 SE last month for,$3000, it eeded nothing. Most in this area go for $4500.
I’d love to see y’all’s take on a newer Goldwing vs a Harley. The newer wings are apparently even better than the GL1500. And I mean newer as in any GL1800 so about 2002 and up 😂😂😂
Keep in mind there are three generations named GL1800 now! The '02-'09 got refreshed heavily for '10-17 and the 2018+ model shares basically nothing with the previous generations. I'd like to see the current bagger 'wing vs this Harley for sure.
@@TheCallMeCrazy that’s exactly what I’m saying. And any of them would probably be better than the CVO. Of course I’d love to see a flagship 2023 go head to head with the Harley but I bet that a sub $10k 2010 would be a good comparison too
You know it’s gonna be a good day when donut posts a motorcycle video with Jeremiah
Jerry and Jobe combo is always great fun looking for more motorcycle content from you Jerry
I'd love to see Jeremiah spruce up the Goldwing and do a before and after
Respect to the Goldwing.A living legend. ❤
1:06 “name another Honda with a flat six engine”
VALKYRIE 🐲
I have a ‘96 with six cylinders, six carburetors, and six exhaust pipes
You know that a valk is just a goldwing wihout all the Goldwing stuff around it?
As a rider I would love more motorcycle content. This was a great video.
As a tricycle rider, I would love more motorcycle content.
i can hear the goldwing prices increasing
YES FINALLY!!! ANOTHER MOTORCYLE CONTENT!!! They should make this a series ❤️ Jeremiah and Zach should host it.
Ari and Zack of Revzilla be shakin' 😆
they will never beat Zack and ari
Oh god stop. That comparison is a joke.
I don't care about motorbikes but I watched Zack and Ari on Motortrend because they are awesome.
Some of ya'll have never heard of levity 😆
Fun video. The low center of gravity on the Goldwing sold me. I'm not a big guy, so it's easy to ride, and the DCT is even more so. I had a Road Glide some time ago and love the shark nose fairing's style. Ride what makes you happy.
wow is donut media finally listening to they’re fans? looks like it!! love it!
Who else thinks the Goldwing deserves some upgrades?
0% sureprised its Jeremiah bringing the motorcycle content lol.
That Goldwing looked like the better bike in real riding! Love 1980s/1990s Jap engineering.
This video seems like it has more thought and effort put in compared to some recent examples, they put a lot of effort into the theming of the video and emphasizing how Zach and Jerry interact. A lot more fun of a time then I expected out of current donut
I bought a 89 Goldwing when i was 19 years old. To this day one of my favorite bikes. I have had 16 motorcycles from sport bikes to naked bikes to duel sports ect. My last bike was my favorite 2020 Yamaha MT09. But that old ass goldwing is my 2nd favorite bike. It had 100k miles when i bought it. I literally would get friends to sit on the back and we could do a wheelie. If nobody was on the back it would do a rolling burnout. Bike was only a beast for its size and age. I drove tf out of it for a little over a year. Nothing ever broke on the bike it was fantastic to drive.
Definitely need to see some more motorcycle content! Jerry and Jobe are always a hilarious combo 😂
I laughed a lot watching this video. A real genuine feel-good laugh like when your hanging out with your buddies.
Just need to add some Justin!
wow all the comfortable with your masculinity was very educational at the end - but yea for a non biker guy i liked this bike thing - love the goldwing you should do more episodes on it.
The fact that the GW is in such usable condition at twenty years of age is both a tribute to the excellent quality of the parts and the wonderful build quality, and also means that it has received the essential servicing it needs to stay alive for such a long time.
Nowadays it probably deserves a major service so that it can roll around laughing for tens of thousands of miles again :D It's a wonderful machine!
That's the beauty I'm the Honda. You can beat it and not maintain it and it just keeps running.... (I wouldn't personally very strict on maintenance)... the HD will fail and leak oil and cost a fortune to fix even with proper service.
@@shelbyhammons9290hey if I were you, I'd lay off the crack.
Any vehicle will have issues regardless of make if you don't properly service them.
Now the Harley will likely have issues because of the VVT, but other then that they're actually fairly cheap to rebuild.
Might want to look into it before opening your mouth
@@jerlaine1638people just like to hate them.. I don’t even like them but I’d rather have one than a gold wing.. Domt know a single rider that would ride a gold wing unless they’re over 60 or absolutely have to.. Everything you want from a motorcycle Harley offers and so many other better bikes than a gold wing.. I mean bikes and beards is usually the go to, he’s given praise to the gold wing but would never give up his road king for one.
yall sound like a bunch of gay bears@@pono801yuli7
@@pono801yuli7 Guess you never heard Sonny Barger's famous comment.
Living in Australia the most amazing part of this episode for me was getting a Goldwing of any age for $500.
Yes, It's about a $10,000 bike here and the Harley's around the $70,000 mark.
Yeah they're definitely 5 to 10k for a older one in poor condision
about 5k-8k in ireland
Here in the EU, I haven't seen one in good condition for less than 4k
Pakistan here, the most you could get for 500$ is a 150CC motorcycle, A Suzuki GS150.
I would sell my 150 in a heartbeat if someone offered me a Goldwing for 500$.
Spending 50k on a motorcycle is crazy. That’s the price of a brand new lariet 2
F150.
This has got to be the most bromantic video Donut has ever put out.
Love seeing the motorcycle representation guys. Would love to Jeremiah and Jobe build/rebuild an awesome old bike. Hell, rebuild the Goldwing. Anyways, ride safe and ride hard. Like you said, we're all one big 2-wheeled family.
That goldwing looks so cool and fun to ride, the dash with analog dials is so beautiful 💯💯💯🔥🔥
6:22 6 inches of seat? About 1/2 inch more than the average American needs
Day 402 of asking James to do an Up to Speed on his Dad
holey moley
damn
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Wow. You're quick. But give up bro. It aint happening.
papy
Should’ve gotten a touring pack for Zach! It makes the ride for the passenger so much better
50k and have to buy more for the pilloion. That seems so HD
@@adriandaw3451I think the commenter means get a more comparable bike to the Goldwing… such as a Road Glide. Not add on more stuff to the HD in the video lol
@@cwadlow You mean something like a 2023 CVO _Road Glide_???
@@adriandaw3451 you are not wrong lmao
You guys should test out a brand new goldwing and see how it compares to the harley!!
The “This feels like we both wanted a Harley but none of us could afford one” got me 😂
I had a 1981 gl500 interstate.. very nice bike. Air ride, long travel suspension, front disc, liquid cooled, shaft driven, over padded seat.. very very nice bike
I absolutely love the new motorcycle content and would go so far as to say I'd even appreciate a second motorcycle based channel
A donut - FortNine collab would be amazing.
Matching the outfits to the bikes was a hilarious and much appreciated move.
the Jerry & Zach bromance is god-tier
The CVO Road Glide Limited does come with a backrest. The bike you guys had doesn't seem to have been a Limited, just a standard CVO Road Glide. If that is the case this bike is only around $43k unless you're including potential markup for the dealerships. Still a staggering price difference.
bruh 7k for a back rest 💀
@@trainzguy2472I recently got a super low mile 2013 CBR600RR for 7k. You want a backrest or a whole sport bike?
Did you just say "only" and $43k for a motorcycle? One that makes ONLY 115hp in 2023.
The V-Max laughs in disgust since 2009
@@rustler08 They are different style bikes meant for different purposes, and you don't need tons of HP for a motorcycle that isn't being used on track. I doubt the V-Max even cares if it was even capable of caring.
They're touring bikes not meant for speed
Keep the motorcycle content coming! Be interesting to see some old Harley Dyna's/FXR's get compared to new Rebels and Shadows next!
These two are gold together
Just want to say the editors for Donut are killing it. big respect
Jerry and Jobe videos are always good
Proving there are 2 types of riders, those that care how they look, and those that care about the ride.
Exactly, the guy kept talking about being cool even tho Harley was pretty trash compared to the 28 yr olds goldwing
Thanks for bring the motorcycle content Jerry 🙏🏽
Picked up a 1998 Goldwing last summer for a trip up to Nordkap. 10.000 flawless km, sold it afterwards for the same price. Enjoyed every minute of it!
9:54
I understand Joby's concerns fully. Imagine having road rash and injuries that people ask about. Then having to choose to either lie about how it happened, or tell them the truth, and admit to wrecking while riding nuts to butts on the back of a Goldwing.
more likly to get RR on the HD, like Zack said, you sit IN a goldwing, not on. also its hard to make them fall over more than 45 degrees.
@@shblair That's not a how a motorcycle accident works, man. You're getting rash and coming off of both of them. There's a reason bikes don't have seat belts.
Donut videos make the world go round
The Honda Goldwing is undoubtedly a clear winner in terms of reliability for the $500 price compared to the $50,000 Harley. 😂 I recently completed a solo cross-country trip on my 2003 BMW R1150 GSA, which has over 215,000 miles on it
How are your rear wheel bearings holding up?
@@BlogVomMax it was excellent
I ride a 2002 electra glide with 227,000 miles on it. harelys can do big miles too
And you didn't mention that the GW has an onboard compressor to load and unload the rear air suspension (and consequently its height from the ground). If, before the curves, you load it some more that thing will be far better to ride. Then, when the highway begins again, unload a little and gain comfort. The front suspension hardens itself when you're braking. Pretty cool for a thing from like 30 years ago, isn't it?😉😎
Edit: that onboard compressor can be used also to inflate the tires
Just two bros sharing a bike. Gotta love it.
A purple one...
I spent a very significant amount of time in that gen goldwing. I can confirm the passenger can totally chill and catch some sleep back there. Still decent fun to drive, too.
My wife once fell asleep on the back of our Yamaha RZ250 YPVS at 160 kph (100 mph), but she was very tired.
So much Jeremiah and Zach action this episode, not that I'm complaining lol
“Well, the truth is, I want a handful of medium things.” - Jobe
that’s deep