The mother proved all the daughter's points during this show! She can't help herself. She can't even PRETEND to be normal, not even just for the show! You can't fix her. She's everything the daughter said she is.
@@DianeMyers-is6imWhat makes you think he's dangerous? Cause he is obsessed with porn like so many other ppl? Obviously he's never abused the children or anything of the sort. They claim sexual abuse probably because he made her do things in the bedroom. How does that make him a danger to his family?
I feel so sorry for the daughter. Her mom is so focused on herself and has such a chip on her shoulder that I don’t think she will ever see the error in her thinking. She is so self righteous but has no one to blame but herself for being such a “right fighter”. She isn’t looking for resolution and that’s a shame.
Actually this happened to me...I was told a tumour was cancerous...they sent it to London for another assessment and it turned out benign. But I didn't ever say I survived cancer...I dodged it!
See exactly this, you’re not trying to tell us you’re a cancer survivor to get attention and sympathy. But also CONGRATULATIONS on dodging cancer!!! We all know at least one person I’m sure who has been affected by cancer, it’s a horrible disease and my heart is so happy for you that your tumour was benign ♥️
Same. I had cancer cells on a biopsy. They removed it all and when they did, there was no cancer cells around the edges. It was not a big deal. I rarely mention it because i dont wanna give ppl the wrong idea. It wasnt even enough cancer to be staged. Im also on long term chemo for autoimmune disease. I tell others so they take precautions to not expose me to germs, but i make it VERY clear its NOT for cancer and i dont stay as sick because its a lower dose. I get sick for about a week and then im ok for 5 more weeks til the next dose.
That's what narcissist do. They totally exhauste you.. that's one reason why people who's been trough narcissistic abuse get so passive.. it's so constant. Amd it does not stop when you leave, it get worse..
The Mother could be charged for identity theft absolutely. Additionally, the mobile phone carrier did not fulfil its obligatiins as a credit provider to confirm the identity of the person seeking credit. The Mother was glaring through slits in her eyes at her daughter when it was revealed how negligent she was towards her obligations as a parent. I would NOT bother maintaining this relationship.
I noticed the glare as well. I thought it was something I was imagining because I didn't see any comments mentioning the look she made. Even Dr. Phil and her daughter didn't point it out
The narcissistic hypochondriac from the 1st story is BEYOND toxic. She is so wrapped up in her need for constant attention that she doesn't realize she has probably been blocked from the majority of her Facebook "friends." The fact that she stole her children's identity says all I need to know about how horrible she is.
Dr. Phil thinks he's funny. No wonder your wife left. She was doing all she could to please you, including chopping up her face. And bald is not always beautiful.
@@DianeMyers-is6imStop reading those rag newspapers at the check out, you know, the ones that claim aliens showed up at the mall and bought Luis Vuitton before taking off in their flying saucer.
@@luteydog I got flashbacks as my mom was very much like her but more vulgar with her words toward me, I had to move 50000miles away to get peace. She passed away and I feel very guilty I wasn't there and feel releif. I stop having night terrors, grinding my teeth and feel less anxiety. I also found out I was adopted after she passed, that too was a relief that I don't have any of her blood in me.
@@Heidi_137 Bless your heart. I'm sure you coped with your mother the best you could and it's understandable that you feel relief, so don't beat yourself up about that. When you are living with someone who is like your mom and others like her, it's tough when you are a child, dealing with that because you had feelings yourself.
@@alaina721 I felt so bad for the daughter at that moment. Like, if this is how she acts on national Tv, Can you imagine what it must have been like growing up behind closed doors with that monster?
a couple of minutes in: It is a 100% narcissistic move to put the blame and responsibility on your children for your psychological and emotional state.
Believe it or not...some kids are AWFUL! Ted Bundy the serial killer,had a great childhood! good parents! Lots of attention! And yet,he murdered 17 women..
If she does have fibromyalgia, that can be one of the issues. I have it. I heat up & it takes hours to cool down & I sweat uncontrollably. It’s horrendous.
@Wonderkell74 I have overheating issues too - since I was put on a particular medication for my back injury. I would be dripping in sweat just from tying my hair up. It's a bit better now I'm not on it any more but my thermostat is permanently broken. Things like this can happen without a specific cause and it's miserable.
The daughter needs to break off all contact with the mother, she will not change and will only continue to add conflict, drama and drain her emotionally. Sometimes family are best left out of your life and this is one of those times.
My daughter was diagnosed as having cancer. She had 17 lymph nodes removed from her left groin. While waiting to go back to the doc for post op visits she received a phone call from the doc that misdiagnosed her telling her she never had it to begin with. Now and for the rest of her days she has to deal with lymphoma unnecessarily. She does not consider herself a cancer survivor because she never had it but a survivor of malpractice. I'm grateful she didn't have it but extremely pissed at the misdiagnoses. Moral of the story...always get a second and third opinion.
I went through a cancer scare in 2022 luckily it came back negative. But it was 7 months of just constant anxiety inducing fear to the point I couldn’t eat or sleep I’d find myself having fun for a minute or two and remember I might be dying. Specialist after specialist to finally get approved for a biopsy. For someone to lie about it is absolutely disgusting.
Actually, she seemed to have gone through the same as you as far as I understood. They had told her that it was cancer, but the biopsy of the removed lump revealed that it wasn't.
She looks pretty healthy for someone that can't keep food down. 14:08 alot of people have had pre-cancer cells and know that doesn't make us cancer survivers! 20:22 I would never allow her to turn my child into what she is either! Daughter is a great mom protecting her kids
This mother does not recognise what she’s like. She has tendencies to talk about only herself, and wants her daughter close by. So by always thinking she’s very ill keeps her family close. Then throws in the grandchildren to keep her ploy ongoing.🇬🇧
Leah needs to realize not everyone who you lose in life is a loss. You can fix a relationship with someone who refuses to accept any responsibility for their actions. Dora is not gonna change because in her mind she has done nothing wrong putting a phone bill in your child name is fraud and a crime but yet she still trying to justify it. The reason why she getting back together with the father is because she wants to force her kids to have a relationship with her because if she marries him they are a package deal
@@theresaterry164Diverticulitis are just small pockets formed on the outside the bowel, you can't feel it. Some can grow inwards and may cause a problem. I have it myself on the outside only small but I don't feel it AT all, I only know that from a colonoscopy. Or I wouldn't know it was there. This woman uses illness real or perceived to garner attention 🤔 👍💯🇦🇺🦘
Some people do that because they want other people to pray for them. Other than that, though, I don't see the point in it unless you are looking for attention.
Every time Mom #1 says something she quickly looks at Leah to see her response. She is ACTIVELY trying to hurt her daughter on national tv. Move on, Leah, at this point, 'Mom' is just an egg donor. Albeit a very emotionally unwell one. She is profoundly jealous of you, in a sick way. As you re watch this, you, too, will be dumfounded at the way she tries to intimidate you and stare you down to try to intimidate you when she doesn't get her way. I would have been LONG gone.
Can you imagine being in a cab, and she spends the entire ride telling you and the cabbie, total strangers, her sad medical history? I bet she doesn't have a single friend.
Omg that first mother was the most insufferable person ever. I don’t think I could have her around and i only watched her for these short clips. Every sentence she speaks is either as a victim or criticism of anyone near her. It’s awful.
Mom #1 is soo like my mom. Just went no contact with her in April. No cognitive dissonance. If I ever got injured she would injure herself or find something to try to down play what was wrong with me. She will never be a part of my life on account she can’t accept what she does is wrong
@@CarmenGutierrez-p8d it was also really hard being mid thirties and she’d say how attractive my partners were. Bought me gifts I’d never want then get mad when I said I don’t want them… because they were clearly something she liked and not me. The whole “you are seen as an extension of them “ is spot on
That mother is jealous of her children and it's sick. She continues to pretend she's a victim and makes everything about her. Makes nothing but excuses. Grandparent's rights? No those are privileges mam and you are NOT entitled to them just because of your status in the family.
Wauw the husband literally admitted to SA his wife however everyone is looking pass this... it sounds a lot like he is the problem. It's a sad relationship all around. Sometimes it's better to love from a distance all around. These people should not be in each others life. I don't get why people want to glue a family together, although they are toxic together. It's better to live separate safe lives. Or am I wrong in my perspective?
The Mother misses her daughter and Grandchildren! Many seniors LIVE just to spend time with their famimy, especially their Grandkids! It’s the Best Part of Life, most especially to see, enjoy their life if suffering from much in your own life. They are a Wonderful, Great focus away from self/problems. Note: the Grandmother acted responsibly if the child had trouble breathing & had a high fever taking him to the doctor/ER especially because of covid these days!!!!!
Anyone who is posting things like this (oversharing), I unfollow them so I don't have to see their constant health updates. I won't tolerate passive-aggressive postings trying to elicit sympathy.
When people have "serious accidents" and on a stretcher but need to take a selfie and document everything for social media. RED. FLAG . I find it so bizarre. We all know someone like this I swear 😂😂😂
She IS!! That's the whole point! And THAT'S sick! She thinks people will only be interested in her as a person, when she tells them her medical history. In reality, most people will be turned off by that kind of stories. She has also NO idea of what's appropiate or not; SHE might have gotten used to all those extreme terms and their graphic nature, but obviously gave it no thought, that she's on a well watched show, where some things should be a bit more discrete, or subtile. After all, it's NOT a medical show. Having a OTT religious methodist mother, probably didn't help either. The whole christian faith is based on suffering. Suffering alledgedly is "good" for you. It "cleanses". This is of course BS. The only thing suffering MIGHT accomplish, is more empathy for others that suffer. MIGHT. I don't think that is applicable here; she's only thinking of herself. On the whole, suffering makes people nasty, cranky, aggresive and resentfull. But of course dr Phil will never, EVER talk about something like that. At least, not in all the episodes I've seen over the years. (I never really "foĺlowed" his career but had moments in time where I'd watch, for a couple of weeks. I have NEVER heard him say anything to critizise religion or the extreme effect it CAN have when it's becoming an obsession).
I have multiple sclerosis and I was told I was faking for decades but in 2001 I was diagnosed and everybody had to eat their words. I haven't even began watching it I just started. I'm not saying she's faking or that she's not faking cuz I don't know but I do know what it's like to not be believed it almost made me take my own life Edit to original comment this woman is garbage
Lol, I was trying to give her the benefit of the doubt, too, because of a similar personal experience of being misdiagnosed and not being believed that I was sick but yeah, she totally discredited the illnesses with her attitude/behavior on this show .
The moms misbehave more than their children, and they're hypocrites for ridiculing the children for their behavior. In fact the children's behavior is caused by their mother's behavior. I hope those children recover from that. 💔
So she just admits to identity theft of her children's identity. That is all I needed to hear. Her kids should take her to court. Don't apologize for ruining their credit- PAY THE DEBT TO FIX THEIR CREDIT. Christian modest moms don't steal their kid's identity or insult their husbands. 🤦🏼♀️
As someone with invisible illnesses, I understand being unheard and feeling unsupported. I'm not in any way condoning how this woman goes about things. I'm just stating the obvious, on behalf of those of us with invisible illnesses.
I do realize that the mom has some serious problems, but they are overlooking the sexual abuse that this woman went through. I was in an abusive marriage and sadly, it changes you. You constantly question yourself. You are desperate, to be loved and constantly misunderstood. It’s like you can’t say anything right anymore which makes you say things wrong eventually, It was confusing to me and I felt lost and alone. Things happen that you couldn’t tell your children and to this day they don’t know. As much as I kept telling this woman “stop talking”, I could understand why she was like that. She no longer feels that anyone has any compassion or love for her and she is begging for love. I didn’t become a hypochondriac, but it does affect you physically mentally and emotionally and I struggled with depression a lot . I wish Dr. Phil just once would have acknowledged the damage that the husband caused, and that possibly could have helped her. She is out there pretty much alone. I’m not saying she’s right or handling things right but she may be at a place where she just doesn’t know what to do. I have a hard time judging her because I don’t know what’s going on inside her mind, but I’ll guarantee there is a lot of confusion and a lot of pain.
I have to agree. I went thru abuse, twice, silently. Then when I divorced them, my parents and sister didn't believe me. My kids never saw abuse because they were either away at a friend's, at grandma's , at school or it was behind closed doors.
I feel for anyone with chronic illness. We are often housebound and in pain. But i dont think sharing is good unless your messaging to support others with same problems.
Thanks lady! You’ve now given me the tools, to get my 27yr old, out of the house. I thought he’d never leave. This gives me hope, because I’ve never asked for sympathy, or attention. I feel stupid, not stumbling on this sooner. It’s brilliant!
I can imagine the daughter hearing Dr Phil telling her off would be very gratifying. The mom needs a lot of help, she's hurting, and alone, I hope she gets help.
The most important job, role, a woman can have is the title of being a mother. If she's unfortunately a single mom by the time her children are grown she probably is a little nuts, bc its a very stressful situation especially if she's raising children alone. Back when I was a young girl growing up in America mothers of the world were treated wt kindness & respect, but in 2024 its like America has forgotten how to love & respect their moms, this younger generation is off the chain. The way children talk to their moms, I would never spoke to my mother like they do simply bc she's my mother, right or wrong I was taught respect your elders, but we live in a society where anything goes, and America has become morally bankrupt and I firmly believe we need to get back to the basics of life. Seems like we have all forgotten how to love one another. I was happy to learn they're putting the 10 commandments back in the public school system bc kids need guidance and they long for structure in their lives. It should have never been taken out of school in the 1st place. All these outsider people come to usa and change the way we live, our beliefs and I just want to say we tried it your way it didn't work, so why not step back see where it all went wrong and undo it. In our modern day society, it doesn't compare to the America I once knew. I wish it could go back to the days when neighbors respected each other, also would like to say please stop using social media to express feelings of hate, keep love in your heart bc when you really stop & think about it, all we have is each other. I know I cannot make it on my own without the help of other people and I'd like to know that I also contribute to helping someone else. If we don't stop all this nasty hate between us we're not going to survive. It's that simple.
Mom said her mistake; 'marrying the wrong person', deciding to steal from her daughter' was so cruel but truthful. She rejects her children when disparaging their father. Then to use her daughter like that is reprehensible. A fake apology, she really can't care.
I think her husband's abuse damaged her brain beyond repair! Seems like he did some really bad thing to her in that bedroom. She needed mental health help. Instead she stayed with her abuser yet her brain is broken she over thinks everything and wants every to understand and care about her but she is so broke she just pushes them away. She's worried about her daughter clothes in front of her father for good reason he is clear dangerous.
I didn't think that. I felt like she was upset bc her daughter looks good and she doesn't or maybe she thinks her daughter is going to get more attention than she is. I hadn't heard her say anything positive about her daughter
I agree, I can understand her concerns about what she wears because her husband is looking at young girls her daughters age in the porn he's watching, of course it's triggering. Her daughters attitude is rank, I wouldn't want her for a daughter either.
“I didn’t steal her identity I just used her name and SSN!” Lmfao this woman is wild. I hope her daughter at least came out of this with the validation from everyone who watched this episode telling her that her mom is definitely the problem lol
The daughter is horrible! The mother IS a victim and bless her heart, has needed therapy for years. The man made life miserable for her. It's truly not her fault
It’s ridiculous that Dora is acting like she a holier then thou victim and is claiming she has “ grandparents rights. She a toxic narcissist drama queen. I don’t hate to break it to her Leah as the child mother has the right to decide whether or not she wants someone to see her child Leah has no obligation to let her see the child and considering how she acts I wouldn’t let Dora see the child either.
Unfortunately in some states if a couple is divorced then a grandparent can sue for visitation rights. Which to me is BS I believe unless a parent is clear evidence that a parent is a danger to the child which is not the case her then parents should have the right to say whether or not they want grandparents to be around their child
As a mother and a grandmother, you cannot come at little children with the intensity that you come forward with. You will just warp their sense of peace ☮️ . I know you can’t see that because you’re in it. Please watch yourself in these clips I know you don’t want to come at your grandchildren with the intensity of anger that you have, I know you’re hurting and this anger is coming from a place of hurt and defense. But your grand children are not your enemy, They are not guilty of any transgression . Your children are not your enemy. If you’re like me, you had quite a time getting through the teenage faze 😭 and I’m sure you have a lot of anger left over from it. Let me save you time money and angst, forgive your children, and speak of it no more , let it go like the bad penny 👹 it is. Move on , you’ve made it to the grandparent phase. You’ve won 🏆 & the prize is grand children. Your own intensity is your enemy. Use that intensity to start a walking or workout program for your extra energy. You will feel better inside and out. It would be a shame for your grandchildren not experience the special grandma love 💕 only you have & can gift 💝 to them. I can tell you would be a fabulous, fun grandma the kids would absolutely adore 🥰. Remember to stay soft grandma with the babies. Grand children are a gift, but they are fragile. Open gently 🌹
The father admitted to abusing and torturing the mother in the bedroom. Yet because she is Christian, she can not have mental trauma that shows itself as attention getting actions?
People that just talk about themselves are the centerr of their universe and no one else matters.. i know someone like that and i have limited my time with them.😊
These parents must have such SEVERE childhood trauma. To late. Very pathological … bad move to “re build” this family. They will only damage the grandchildren.
Wow this woman is a drama queen holy moly Just be who you are as a mom and wife Stop focusing on yourself alone focus on something that’s important to all of you as a family It’s just too much for your children
I am in my mid sixties and do not know a single woman who did not have any of these ailments. some 50% of all women have their gallbladder removed. a huge percentage of women complain about fibromyalgia, a condition that has no specific definition or diagnosis. pretty much any ailment this woman complains about, can be alleviated by changing eating habits. puhhhh, just listening to her drains my energy. I know people like that and stay away from them, it's just too exhausting.
Towards the end, when the mum went quiet and said she felt like a victim, that was purely because dr phil took the piss when he said about getting another counsellor and she knew it. I actually felt sorry for her, then.
I find it really significant that all through talking about her illnesses etc, when it came to talking about her marriage, she was genuinely crying and rocking with distress. Thats at least should have been recognised.
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17:58 "do you regret dragging the children in and out of this relationship?"
"I do, because poor me, me me me."
Not because it hurt her kids 🙄
Exactly. She could have left, she could have gotten a job, she could have called the police or spoken to her church pastors or literally anything.
This “mother” is deep into her self pity that she can only see herself as a victim. It’s almost uncomfortable to watch how self-righteous she is.
Would you sexually abuse your wife, because of a deprived mind
%1000 WORD
She is the poster child for a narcissistic parent
I have fibroids, and they never bother me at all.
Facebook is one helluva drug
Her daughter is beautiful and not at all inappropriate. How sad.
The mother proved all the daughter's points during this show! She can't help herself. She can't even PRETEND to be normal, not even just for the show! You can't fix her. She's everything the daughter said she is.
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The way she smiles and looks smug after she thinks she has got her point across is priceless,
That mom will never change. Never.
Neither will the father, he is more dangerous.
My mom's a Jesus freak. She's NUTS!!! I never call her. She calls me and I talk to her like an acquaintance. My best friend is my real mom
@@DianeMyers-is6imWhat makes you think he's dangerous? Cause he is obsessed with porn like so many other ppl? Obviously he's never abused the children or anything of the sort. They claim sexual abuse probably because he made her do things in the bedroom. How does that make him a danger to his family?
I feel so sorry for the daughter. Her mom is so focused on herself and has such a chip on her shoulder that I don’t think she will ever see the error in her thinking. She is so self righteous but has no one to blame but herself for being such a “right fighter”. She isn’t looking for resolution and that’s a shame.
@@sburker32Answer: Because of what he did to their mother. Parental Alienation.
Actually this happened to me...I was told a tumour was cancerous...they sent it to London for another assessment and it turned out benign. But I didn't ever say I survived cancer...I dodged it!
She's saying the cancer was there then all the sudden it wasn't because it was a miracle lol. Glad you don't have cancer though ❤
See exactly this, you’re not trying to tell us you’re a cancer survivor to get attention and sympathy. But also CONGRATULATIONS on dodging cancer!!! We all know at least one person I’m sure who has been affected by cancer, it’s a horrible disease and my heart is so happy for you that your tumour was benign ♥️
Same. I had cancer cells on a biopsy. They removed it all and when they did, there was no cancer cells around the edges. It was not a big deal. I rarely mention it because i dont wanna give ppl the wrong idea. It wasnt even enough cancer to be staged.
Im also on long term chemo for autoimmune disease. I tell others so they take precautions to not expose me to germs, but i make it VERY clear its NOT for cancer and i dont stay as sick because its a lower dose. I get sick for about a week and then im ok for 5 more weeks til the next dose.
My sister as well.
That's exactly what we're talking about. Docs make a bad call and then it's a miracle.
The mom is an energy vampire, I’m exhausted listening to her.
That's what narcissist do. They totally exhauste you.. that's one reason why people who's been trough narcissistic abuse get so passive.. it's so constant. Amd it does not stop when you leave, it get worse..
totally agree!
OMG I can see it!
My mom is the exact same
100% would yawn in her face and walk away. Those poor children.
The Mother could be charged for identity theft absolutely. Additionally, the mobile phone carrier did not fulfil its obligatiins as a credit provider to confirm the identity of the person seeking credit.
The Mother was glaring through slits in her eyes at her daughter when it was revealed how negligent she was towards her obligations as a parent.
I would NOT bother maintaining this relationship.
I noticed the glare as well. I thought it was something I was imagining because I didn't see any comments mentioning the look she made. Even Dr. Phil and her daughter didn't point it out
The narcissistic hypochondriac from the 1st story is BEYOND toxic. She is so wrapped up in her need for constant attention that she doesn't realize she has probably been blocked from the majority of her Facebook "friends."
The fact that she stole her children's identity says all I need to know about how horrible she is.
Stealing from your own children’s future is the biggest crime and unforgivable
Not that she want forgiveness because she feels entitled to it
@@shrutefarms4741 exactly 💯
I didn't even have to read this whole thing to give it a 👍
Wow, this mother is a professional victim! She makes everything about her. I feel bad for her kids.
I was wishing she would shut up about her health .🥱😴
Narcissistic abuse is something else.. it's so constant.. they NEVER even pause for a minute..
I feel sorry for us watching. 😂😂😂
If we're taking a shot everytime Dr Phil says "you had a tumour removed", we're all hammered!!!!
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Dr. Phil thinks he's funny. No wonder your wife left. She was doing all she could to please you, including chopping up her face. And bald is not always beautiful.
@@DianeMyers-is6imhis wife didn't leave... 😂
@@vintagebeliever5023😂🙃
@@DianeMyers-is6imStop reading those rag newspapers at the check out, you know, the ones that claim aliens showed up at the mall and bought Luis Vuitton before taking off in their flying saucer.
If i had a mother like this, I wouldnt want anything to do with her, let alone allowing my children to be around her... PERIOD!
Same. I’d be living a lot farther away than 3 hours!!
She's so dramatic and all about her illness.
@@luteydog I got flashbacks as my mom was very much like her but more vulgar with her words toward me, I had to move 50000miles away to get peace. She passed away and I feel very guilty I wasn't there and feel releif. I stop having night terrors, grinding my teeth and feel less anxiety. I also found out I was adopted after she passed, that too was a relief that I don't have any of her blood in me.
@@Heidi_137bless your heart. Relax and rest is owed to you in life ❤
@@Heidi_137 Bless your heart. I'm sure you coped with your mother the best you could and it's understandable that you feel relief, so don't beat yourself up about that. When you are living with someone who is like your mom and others like her, it's tough when you are a child, dealing with that because you had feelings yourself.
The hatred in that woman's eyes looking at her own daughter tells me everything I need to know
Riight! That was an INTENSE look of contempt.
@@alaina721 I felt so bad for the daughter at that moment. Like, if this is how she acts on national Tv, Can you imagine what it must have been like growing up behind closed doors with that monster?
Actually I thought the way the daughter was looking at her mother was full of hatred. She knows her mom will never chañge!
I noticed that too!
Do NOT let first Mom to ever be around the grandchildren. She is toxic!
Toxic narcissist
She had a goiter on her neck smh
When she coughed it popped out @@marcianicotra
The grandkids should call her Mimi because she is all me, me, me!
@@RenaAgee 😂
a couple of minutes in: It is a 100% narcissistic move to put the blame and responsibility on your children for your psychological and emotional state.
Believe it or not...some kids are AWFUL!
Ted Bundy the serial killer,had a great childhood!
good parents!
Lots of attention!
And yet,he murdered 17 women..
O wow she's 100% narcissistic person, this show is an opportunity to be in the spotlight!! !
You gave this narcissistic women a platform to shine and at the same time be a victim!
She doesn't want to be helped She just wants to be right
Drama Queen 👸🏼
First lady's "excessive sweating" is probably caused by being overweight and in menopause.
I was thinking the same thing.
If she does have fibromyalgia, that can be one of the issues. I have it. I heat up & it takes hours to cool down & I sweat uncontrollably. It’s horrendous.
@Wonderkell74 I have overheating issues too - since I was put on a particular medication for my back injury. I would be dripping in sweat just from tying my hair up. It's a bit better now I'm not on it any more but my thermostat is permanently broken. Things like this can happen without a specific cause and it's miserable.
Oh! Poor poor victim... The mother is soo toxic. Dont fall into her trap!
The daughter needs to break off all contact with the mother, she will not change and will only continue to add conflict, drama and drain her emotionally. Sometimes family are best left out of your life and this is one of those times.
I definitely agree 👍 💯
Girl, run. She is never going to change. Never.
So agree! And that lame non apology.. I think it was about the identity theft… and mom says I’m sorry I Had to do that. …. Oh brother.
My daughter was diagnosed as having cancer. She had 17 lymph nodes removed from her left groin. While waiting to go back to the doc for post op visits she received a phone call from the doc that misdiagnosed her telling her she never had it to begin with. Now and for the rest of her days she has to deal with lymphoma unnecessarily. She does not consider herself a cancer survivor because she never had it but a survivor of malpractice. I'm grateful she didn't have it but extremely pissed at the misdiagnoses. Moral of the story...always get a second and third opinion.
Wow...I'm so sorry your daughter had to go through that.
I went through a cancer scare in 2022 luckily it came back negative. But it was 7 months of just constant anxiety inducing fear to the point I couldn’t eat or sleep I’d find myself having fun for a minute or two and remember I might be dying. Specialist after specialist to finally get approved for a biopsy. For someone to lie about it is absolutely disgusting.
It is so disgusting! Glad you are doing better!!!
Actually, she seemed to have gone through the same as you as far as I understood. They had told her that it was cancer, but the biopsy of the removed lump revealed that it wasn't.
She wasn't lying
It wasn’t a miracle, lady…just a mistake made by the pathologist!
That's actually a very good way of describing it. Maybe they should have told her that.
Best guess by the surgeon, disproved by histopathologist. Happens frequently..
100% and it's not uncommon or anything spectacular.
Yep, happens all the time
this is the issue w/most people! they would RATHER be RIGHT,than HAPPY!😑
Well she was not the one watching porn
This is the world right now
@@sapphirerain70 I would rather remove myself! they WON! I'm OUT!✌🏾
This is truth!
The Mom who likes to meet guys on the internet and " hook up" with them (and tell her daughter the details) ...DISGUSTNG!
@@kristinmoreno9203 might even show a pic!
She looks pretty healthy for someone that can't keep food down. 14:08 alot of people have had pre-cancer cells and know that doesn't make us cancer survivers! 20:22 I would never allow her to turn my child into what she is either! Daughter is a great mom protecting her kids
This mother does not recognise what she’s like. She has tendencies to talk about only herself, and wants her daughter close by.
So by always thinking she’s very ill keeps her family close. Then throws in the grandchildren to keep her ploy ongoing.🇬🇧
100% AGREE!
Leah needs to realize not everyone who you lose in life is a loss. You can fix a relationship with someone who refuses to accept any responsibility for their actions. Dora is not gonna change because in her mind she has done nothing wrong putting a phone bill in your child name is fraud and a crime but yet she still trying to justify it. The reason why she getting back together with the father is because she wants to force her kids to have a relationship with her because if she marries him they are a package deal
Most people who have difficulties with keeping food down tend to be a little thinner. She looks hale and hearty.
😂
That’s not true…… I have met people larger than this lady that had diverticulitis.
@@theresaterry164Diverticulitis are just small pockets formed on the outside the bowel, you can't feel it. Some can grow inwards and may cause a problem. I have it myself on the outside only small but I don't feel it AT all, I only know that from a colonoscopy. Or I wouldn't know it was there. This woman uses illness real or perceived to garner attention 🤔 👍💯🇦🇺🦘
She’s blaming the oesophageal spasms for the nausea/vomiting… and even posted on her facebook 3 meals down and three meals up
I know, and the was she leans back...and turns her nose up, is so annoying
This daughter just needs to cut her losses and move on without this crazy woman in her life.
Daughter is amazingly strong. I think she is an inspiration.
Just listening to this, I am grateful this woman was not my mother!
I know how it feels. She's like my mom incarnate.
My mother was a hypochondriac, for the attention. It’s tragic to see someone smugly happy because she’d finally been diagnosed with something real.
Why post your whole life on Facebook???
because narcissism
Everyone does it, aren't you??
Some folks are lonely.
It's a sad situation for their daughter and grandchildren!
Some people do that because they want other people to pray for them. Other than that, though, I don't see the point in it unless you are looking for attention.
My gosh Leah is beautiful seems to hold herself well.
You can tell that the mum was beautiful when she was younger.
Every time Mom #1 says something she quickly looks at Leah to see her response. She is ACTIVELY trying to hurt her daughter on national tv. Move on, Leah, at this point, 'Mom' is just an egg donor. Albeit a very emotionally unwell one. She is profoundly jealous of you, in a sick way. As you re watch this, you, too, will be dumfounded at the way she tries to intimidate you and stare you down to try to intimidate you when she doesn't get her way. I would have been LONG gone.
The mom is so strange,I would not want to even share a cab with her.
Can you imagine being in a cab, and she spends the entire ride telling you and the cabbie, total strangers, her sad medical history? I bet she doesn't have a single friend.
Omg that first mother was the most insufferable person ever. I don’t think I could have her around and i only watched her for these short clips. Every sentence she speaks is either as a victim or criticism of anyone near her. It’s awful.
she is SO jealous of her daughter! Neither will she ever change. It is who she is.
Yes, I agree, she's very jealous.
That bloody social media . Urrgh. It breaks so many families.
Mom #1 is soo like my mom. Just went no contact with her in April. No cognitive dissonance. If I ever got injured she would injure herself or find something to try to down play what was wrong with me. She will never be a part of my life on account she can’t accept what she does is wrong
Ditto!!
She is wicked .
I felt exhausted just listening. All the best to you ! ❤
@@CarmenGutierrez-p8d it’s been very peaceful. My memory suddenly isn’t spotty, anxiety is down
@@CarmenGutierrez-p8d it was also really hard being mid thirties and she’d say how attractive my partners were. Bought me gifts I’d never want then get mad when I said I don’t want them… because they were clearly something she liked and not me. The whole “you are seen as an extension of them “ is spot on
She’s 61… she should care about her personal safety, that’s the only reason I can see that the daughter might have concern..
Mom is a professional victim. Its her whole personality. I hope the parents and especially the daughter get the help they need.
That mother is jealous of her children and it's sick. She continues to pretend she's a victim and makes everything about her. Makes nothing but excuses. Grandparent's rights? No those are privileges mam and you are NOT entitled to them just because of your status in the family.
Wauw the husband literally admitted to SA his wife however everyone is looking pass this... it sounds a lot like he is the problem. It's a sad relationship all around. Sometimes it's better to love from a distance all around. These people should not be in each others life. I don't get why people want to glue a family together, although they are toxic together. It's better to live separate safe lives. Or am I wrong in my perspective?
Yet the mother chased him from state to state and exposed her kids to her toxic ways
...and yet she is sleeping with him willingly to this day.
The Mother misses her daughter and Grandchildren! Many seniors LIVE just to spend time with their famimy, especially their Grandkids! It’s the Best Part of Life, most especially to see, enjoy their life if suffering from much in your own life. They are a Wonderful, Great focus away from self/problems. Note: the Grandmother acted responsibly if the child had trouble breathing & had a high fever taking him to the doctor/ER especially because of covid these days!!!!!
@@terri6584 not this lady
@@_Y.Not_ yup i was gonna say the same thing.
WOW she puts this on FB? Sad.
Anyone who is posting things like this (oversharing), I unfollow them so I don't have to see their constant health updates. I won't tolerate passive-aggressive postings trying to elicit sympathy.
When people have "serious accidents" and on a stretcher but need to take a selfie and document everything for social media. RED. FLAG . I find it so bizarre. We all know someone like this I swear 😂😂😂
@@jodielorraine4653 I don't.
This mom is so "Deep" in her "Victimhood" she cannot see her way out nor does she want to😢
Both my parents were narcissistic, hypochondriacs! Angry and vicious at times. Good luck to that young woman.
She sounds like my daughter in-laws mother. To her, having a conversation is her talking about herself and you listening
We have all met these " types".. I can't stand them...
Here's the deal: offspring who are adults dont have to associate with their parents.
Correct!
And parents of adult kids don't have to associate with those kids.
Crying but not one tear 😂
She sounds proud of her so-called illnesses!!
“Narcissist “ is the most overused, most incorrectly used work in the English language IMO
@calgal5752 also underdiagnosed
Bingo!
She IS!! That's the whole point! And THAT'S sick! She thinks people will only be interested in her as a person, when she tells them her medical history. In reality, most people will be turned off by that kind of stories. She has also NO idea of what's appropiate or not; SHE might have gotten used to all those extreme terms and their graphic nature, but obviously gave it no thought, that she's on a well watched show, where some things should be a bit more discrete, or subtile. After all, it's NOT a medical show. Having a OTT religious methodist mother, probably didn't help either. The whole christian faith is based on suffering. Suffering alledgedly is "good" for you. It "cleanses". This is of course BS. The only thing suffering MIGHT accomplish, is more empathy for others that suffer. MIGHT. I don't think that is applicable here; she's only thinking of herself. On the whole, suffering makes people nasty, cranky, aggresive and resentfull.
But of course dr Phil will never, EVER talk about something like that. At least, not in all the episodes I've seen over the years. (I never really "foĺlowed" his career but had moments in time where I'd watch, for a couple of weeks. I have NEVER heard him say anything to critizise religion or the extreme effect it CAN have when it's becoming an obsession).
She is because it gets her attention
People who continuously say the word, “I” over and over again are narcissists. They don’t change.
Yes, the mother is a narcissist. It's all about her. Me. Me. Me. Me. I agree with Dr Phil that the mother has NO ownership for her behavior. Zero.
Mom #2 is ridiculously dangerous with her own well fare in so many ways.
Ditch mom #1
I have multiple sclerosis and I was told I was faking for decades but in 2001 I was diagnosed and everybody had to eat their words. I haven't even began watching it I just started. I'm not saying she's faking or that she's not faking cuz I don't know but I do know what it's like to not be believed it almost made me take my own life
Edit to original comment this woman is garbage
Should we throw you under the bus also? That was mean!
Lol, I was trying to give her the benefit of the doubt, too, because of a similar personal experience of being misdiagnosed and not being believed that I was sick but yeah, she totally discredited the illnesses with her attitude/behavior on this show .
The moms misbehave more than their children, and they're hypocrites for ridiculing the children for their behavior. In fact the children's behavior is caused by their mother's behavior. I hope those children recover from that. 💔
So she just admits to identity theft of her children's identity. That is all I needed to hear. Her kids should take her to court. Don't apologize for ruining their credit- PAY THE DEBT TO FIX THEIR CREDIT.
Christian modest moms don't steal their kid's identity or insult their husbands. 🤦🏼♀️
It takes a lot for a child to go no contact, believe me. 10 years without my maternal emotional vampire ...peace and quiet😊
Mom keeps looking at daughter with anger instead of hurt.
She’s rolled her eyes clean outta her head at least 5 times. She’s jealous of her daughter.
These people have absolutely no idea how to live a good life.
I wonder where the whole "grandparents have rights to see the grandkids" originates. They have zero rights.
As someone with invisible illnesses, I understand being unheard and feeling unsupported.
I'm not in any way condoning how this woman goes about things. I'm just stating the obvious, on behalf of those of us with invisible illnesses.
I do realize that the mom has some serious problems, but they are overlooking the sexual abuse that this woman went through. I was in an abusive marriage and sadly, it changes you. You constantly question yourself. You are desperate, to be loved and constantly misunderstood. It’s like you can’t say anything right anymore which makes you say things wrong eventually, It was confusing to me and I felt lost and alone. Things happen that you couldn’t tell your children and to this day they don’t know. As much as I kept telling this woman “stop talking”, I could understand why she was like that. She no longer feels that anyone has any compassion or love for her and she is begging for love. I didn’t become a hypochondriac, but it does affect you physically mentally and emotionally and I struggled with depression a lot . I wish Dr. Phil just once would have acknowledged the damage that the husband caused, and that possibly could have helped her. She is out there pretty much alone. I’m not saying she’s right or handling things right but she may be at a place where she just doesn’t know what to do. I have a hard time judging her because I don’t know what’s going on inside her mind, but I’ll guarantee there is a lot of confusion and a lot of pain.
Very true. They ignoring the trauma of all this abuse.
I have to agree. I went thru abuse, twice, silently. Then when I divorced them, my parents and sister didn't believe me. My kids never saw abuse because they were either away at a friend's, at grandma's , at school or it was behind closed doors.
Dr. Phil has only his own narcissistic views. Notice his wife divorced him, and he is schooling others?
@@DianeMyers-is6im I am so sorry you went through that. It is very painful and very lonely. My heart and prayers go out to you, hon.
Yes, I feel like Dr. Phil failed to not recognize that if even for a moment
I feel for anyone with chronic illness. We are often housebound and in pain. But i dont think sharing is good unless your messaging to support others with same problems.
Thanks lady! You’ve now given me the tools, to get my 27yr old, out of the house. I thought he’d never leave. This gives me hope, because I’ve never asked for sympathy, or attention. I feel stupid, not stumbling on this sooner. It’s brilliant!
2 minutes in and i think she is very self centered. I'm WAY sicker than her and I try to not involve my kids (all adults now) as much as possible.
Cynthia: That’s because you are putting your kids first. Sounds like a good mom. Prayers to you 🙏
Daughter needs to get a protection order against her mom for both her and her children. That grandma is toxic to everyone she’s around
I can imagine the daughter hearing Dr Phil telling her off would be very gratifying. The mom needs a lot of help, she's hurting, and alone, I hope she gets help.
I find that people like this lady will never change and never accept shes at fault. All you can change is how you respond to the way they treat you
Wow this woman is exhausting. I want to go no contact.
She's NOT a "cancer surviver" . She's a cancer SCARE surviver. HUGE DIFFERENCE!!
Ugh this was my mother. Exhausting. Absolutely exhausting. I went no contact before she passed. The peace she will feel if she does so.
The most important job, role, a woman can have is the title of being a mother. If she's unfortunately a single mom by the time her children are grown she probably is a little nuts, bc its a very stressful situation especially if she's raising children alone. Back when I was a young girl growing up in America mothers of the world were treated wt kindness & respect, but in 2024 its like America has forgotten how to love & respect their moms, this younger generation is off the chain. The way children talk to their moms, I would never spoke to my mother like they do simply bc she's my mother, right or wrong I was taught respect your elders, but we live in a society where anything goes, and America has become morally bankrupt and I firmly believe we need to get back to the basics of life. Seems like we have all forgotten how to love one another. I was happy to learn they're putting the 10 commandments back in the public school system bc kids need guidance and they long for structure in their lives. It should have never been taken out of school in the 1st place. All these outsider people come to usa and change the way we live, our beliefs and I just want to say we tried it your way it didn't work, so why not step back see where it all went wrong and undo it. In our modern day society, it doesn't compare to the America I once knew. I wish it could go back to the days when neighbors respected each other, also would like to say please stop using social media to express feelings of hate, keep love in your heart bc when you really stop & think about it, all we have is each other. I know I cannot make it on my own without the help of other people and I'd like to know that I also contribute to helping someone else. If we don't stop all this nasty hate between us we're not going to survive. It's that simple.
That woman is real sick!
Mom said her mistake; 'marrying the wrong person', deciding to steal from her daughter' was so cruel but truthful. She rejects her children when disparaging their father. Then to use her daughter like that is reprehensible. A fake apology, she really can't care.
I feel bad for the mom. She's clearly sick.
Benign tumor removed Does not mean you’re a cancer survivor. A survivor is the person who fought to survive With radiation or chemotherapy
The ugly on the inside always ends up showing on the outside. Every time.
Daughters are completely correct
I think her husband's abuse damaged her brain beyond repair! Seems like he did some really bad thing to her in that bedroom. She needed mental health help. Instead she stayed with her abuser yet her brain is broken she over thinks everything and wants every to understand and care about her but she is so broke she just pushes them away. She's worried about her daughter clothes in front of her father for good reason he is clear dangerous.
I didn't think that. I felt like she was upset bc her daughter looks good and she doesn't or maybe she thinks her daughter is going to get more attention than she is. I hadn't heard her say anything positive about her daughter
I agree, I can understand her concerns about what she wears because her husband is looking at young girls her daughters age in the porn he's watching, of course it's triggering. Her daughters attitude is rank, I wouldn't want her for a daughter either.
The mother also seems to have some very puritanical views and I consider myself pretty conservative.
You fell for her 💩🐂.
I think she was damaged long before her hubby did what he did in the room. She could have not gone in the bedroom.
I have not yet watched the episode fully. I'm excited to watch her try to pull the wool over Dr. Phil's eyes on her medical conditions.
Dr Phil you’re so great . Very caring ❤
Wow even after the daughter heard the father admit to what he did to her mother she still had no compassion. I think they are very similar people
I also noticed that. The daughter is so fed up with her mother that's she doesn't care about her mother's suffering. It's not nice either.
the mother is dangerous, very dangerous,
Be sure and read the description! If you click on the word “more” under the video! This first woman’s abuse is absolutely horrendous!!
I'd say it's the father that's very, very dangerous
“I didn’t steal her identity I just used her name and SSN!” Lmfao this woman is wild. I hope her daughter at least came out of this with the validation from everyone who watched this episode telling her that her mom is definitely the problem lol
Look at her face, that mom is right fighter. Very critical
Oh my gosh this situation literally happened to me with my mom. It's very hard to deal with. I feel for y'all
The daughter is horrible! The mother IS a victim and bless her heart, has needed therapy for years. The man made life miserable for her. It's truly not her fault
Your probably like her
It’s ridiculous that Dora is acting like she a holier then thou victim and is claiming she has “ grandparents rights. She a toxic narcissist drama queen. I don’t hate to break it to her Leah as the child mother has the right to decide whether or not she wants someone to see her child Leah has no obligation to let her see the child and considering how she acts I wouldn’t let Dora see the child either.
Grandparents have no rights. They have privileges.
Unfortunately in some states if a couple is divorced then a grandparent can sue for visitation rights. Which to me is BS I believe unless a parent is clear evidence that a parent is a danger to the child which is not the case her then parents should have the right to say whether or not they want grandparents to be around their child
As a mother and a grandmother, you cannot come at little children with the intensity that you come forward with. You will just warp their sense of peace ☮️ . I know you can’t see that because you’re in it. Please watch yourself in these clips I know you don’t want to come at your grandchildren with the intensity of anger that you have, I know you’re hurting and this anger is coming from a place of hurt and defense. But your grand children are not your enemy, They are not guilty of any transgression . Your children are not your enemy. If you’re like me, you had quite a time getting through the teenage faze 😭 and I’m sure you have a lot of anger left over from it. Let me save you time money and angst, forgive your children, and speak of it no more , let it go like the bad penny 👹 it is. Move on , you’ve made it to the grandparent phase. You’ve won 🏆 & the prize is grand children. Your own intensity is your enemy. Use that intensity to start a walking or workout program for your extra energy. You will feel better inside and out. It would be a shame for your grandchildren not experience the special grandma love 💕 only you have & can gift 💝 to them. I can tell you would be a fabulous, fun grandma the kids would absolutely adore 🥰. Remember to stay soft grandma with the babies. Grand children are a gift, but they are fragile. Open gently 🌹
First mom stopped listening. She wanted everything to be about her. She is NOT a Christian.
Lol Christianity has nothing to do with a cluster B personality disorder.
The father admitted to abusing and torturing the mother in the bedroom. Yet because she is Christian, she can not have mental trauma that shows itself as attention getting actions?
I had this happen to me as well, I was diagnosed with barretts esophagus, and it was healed, BE doesn't go away.
People that just talk about themselves are the centerr of their universe and no one else matters.. i know someone like that and i have limited my time with them.😊
These parents must have such SEVERE childhood trauma. To late. Very pathological … bad move to “re build” this family. They will only damage the grandchildren.
She won't go to therapy, she's the victim here. (Not true, but that the self victimization)
Wow this woman is a drama queen holy moly
Just be who you are as a mom and wife
Stop focusing on yourself alone focus on something that’s important to all of you as a family
It’s just too much for your children
It is not so easy to be ”normal” when being broken by abuse
Stop making excuses for abusers. You don’t have to be normal. But if you pass abuse on & continue the cycle then you are a bad person. Period.
Oh please. She’s still sleeping with “her abuser”. She’s no more a victim than she is a cancer survivor. Only person abused was her daughter.
The mother is determined to be a victim, a professional victim. Oh dear.
I am in my mid sixties and do not know a single woman who did not have any of these ailments. some 50% of all women have their gallbladder removed. a huge percentage of women complain about fibromyalgia, a condition that has no specific definition or diagnosis. pretty much any ailment this woman complains about, can be alleviated by changing eating habits.
puhhhh, just listening to her drains my energy. I know people like that and stay away from them, it's just too exhausting.
Towards the end, when the mum went quiet and said she felt like a victim, that was purely because dr phil took the piss when he said about getting another counsellor and she knew it. I actually felt sorry for her, then.
I find it really significant that all through talking about her illnesses etc, when it came to talking about her marriage, she was genuinely crying and rocking with distress. Thats at least should have been recognised.