I have acquired a refurbished m2 pro 16 inch, 16gb ram. It has been 3 days now since I have bought it. It came perfectly cleaned and with no scratches. I'm a Unity3d and Swift developer and I have been doing heavy stuff on this machine. It looks like it's ok.
@@RL-ku6wx RAM is pretty enough. I was afraid of 16gb, because my old Mac Mini used more than 24gb. I did see a video from Alex regarding ram in m1/m2, they work differently. In a daily basis, I use simultaneously blender, Unity, vs code, slack, source tree, chrome with about 5 tabs, Xcode. The machine is running smoothly This version is 512gb storage, I would buy a 1Tb if it wasn’t so expensive Running projects locally. I’ll achieve the full storage capacity soon, so that I’ll use the projects in a external storage
for a school student and everyday use like browsing and light gaming (like iphone games) on a refurbished macbook air m2 should i get 256g or 512g? edit: because on the laptop i currently have its 512g and i have almost 100g used (lenovo slim pad 3, i think)
I've been routinely buying refurbed equipment from Apple since 2009, and have never had a problem with anything. Currently typing this on a 30-month-old refurbed M1 Air that still looks and feels as good as new, apart from a few scratches near the USB-C ports. It's a daily driver, so battery cycles are at 765 with 86% of original capacity, and I can see me replacing the battery in a few years, assuming I even notice the loss of battery life, given how good it still is.
I was really glad to see 76 power cycles on your brand new MacBook. I recently got a refurbished one with 160 power cycles yet only 4 hours of powered-on time. I wondered if there was something amiss there, but sounds like it's normal!
@@themedleb "You will receive a refurbished device with genuine Apple replacement parts (as needed) that has been thoroughly cleaned and inspected. Refurbished iOS devices will come with new battery and outer shell." from apple's website.
I paid for two macs for my whole life (all the other ones came from my employers). The first one was a first gen rMBP (late 2012 model) that I bought used from Amazon, and the second one was a Apple refurbished 2020 M1 MBP. Both machines were one year old when I bougth them and I saved a significant amount of money. The first machine is still working (my kids are using it now) although it is 11 years old now; and my wife uses the second machine with the M1 chip. No issues with either of them. Very happy with my purchases and I would not pay the full price for any Macs, unless there is a really good reason.
Great video. Refurbished Apple product quality is amazing. Somewhere on the site they provide the definition of “refurbished” and it’s something like “new shell, new screen, all internals cleaned and repaired”. They also give a 1year warranty. Amazon renewed does not go that far. Edit; Apple’s website- “You will receive a refurbished device with genuine Apple replacement parts (as needed) that has been thoroughly cleaned and inspected. Refurbished iOS devices will come with new battery and outer shell. Every device will come with all accessories, cables and operating systems. footnote 1 All Apple Certified Refurbished products are packaged in a brand new white box and will be sent to you with free shipping and returns.”
Hey Alex, I bought a refurb in 2014, a MacBook Pro 13" Late 2013 Retina and used it for 9 years. I ran DriveDX a few days ago and the SSD (256GB) has still so much juice left (99%). I also ordered the 8GB version (I was low on budget) but received the 16GB version, so that was sweet. Overall, I had a good time with it but I ran into issues when MacOS wouldn't update and thus, affected the sync of one of my iPad app. Plus the screen was almost busted and the battery was 25 months pregnant with no sign of giving birth, so I knew it was time for a change. I decided to go for the new MacBook Pro M3 Pro instead of another refurb MacBook Pro M2 Pro due to several factors; Superior chip, energy savings, battery life and I also love the new space black. The bezel of the space black blends with the screen when you watch videos, so there is no distracting silver lining, which I found that to be quite cool. And thanks for the video!
Just received my refurbished MacBook Pro 16" M3 Pro (18 GB | 1 TB) from Apple yesterday. After first boot, battery cycle count is 3. After updating Sonoma to the latest version and installing Xcode, Homebrew, and smartmontools (to obtain SSD stats), I have 1.94 TB data read, 1.58 TB data written, 296 power cycles, 32 power on hours, and 19 unsafe shutdowns. Finally time to retire my MacBook Pro 2016 (which underwent four repairs under AppleCare, including a replacement butterfly keyboard just last summer due to a stuck spacebar).
Bought a refurbished i7 Macbook Pro, M1 Air and M2 Air (quite fresh into their product-cycle) and very happy with them. Sold the i7 and M1 to friends, not a big issue for them to get an initially refurbished machine. Would buy another Apple-refurbished product any time.
Yes, and If you have a model affected by a recall, they pretty much refurbish it for you. It's amazing! I've got a story on that. I'll probably do a UA-cam short on it at some point.
In 2021 I bought an Apple Refurbished base model M1 MacBook Air, at a cost saving of 15%. Its battery had completed all of two charge cycles and according to the Coconut Battery app had been manufactured some 8 months after the Mac's date of manufacture. To all intents and purposes it was a new Mac.
I do think at this point is safer to buy a refurbished one than a brand new one. I got a MacBook 16 M2 Max recently, the 64gb model, and it came with a defect on the camera. It simply wasn't working. When I arrived at the store to replace it, they said my delivery dates for that machine were too short and that must have been a returned machine. I suspect Apple or their partners may have packed the machine back and sold it as a brand new, but with a defect. EDIT: I have also to mention that I replaced that 64GB to a "brand new" 32GB machine, that came scratched out of the box. So, yet again another issue with the replaced machine. For the refurbished ones, they have to look and properly tested or fix it to ensure they are able to be used again, instead of having this (super gross) quality-control failure like the camera not working. I have previously bought a refurbished one that lasted for years. However, I do find out a minor scratch on the lid on it AFTER using it for a few days. And I'm sure that wasn't there, because I checked every spot. So I presume they applied some sort of "make up" to make it look fresh which went away few days after I got it. I also assume that this "free returns, money back without any defect/reason" and so on conditions that they offer (and other brands and companies in the US as well) might enable them to accept a bit more defective units when shipping. That's just a guess.
Got my 16 inch m1 max 64gb 1tb refurbished and it’s absolutely indifferent compared to a brand new one. I added apple care and it’s causing me zero stress
I have only bought refurbished since 2009. Over thirty of them. Only one was a lemon, and Apple made good on it with no hazzle. All of these refurbished computers worked well for many years. I currently am typing on my 2017 MacBookPro in 2024 and it has never given me a problem. Though now I have maxed out on upgrades of MacOS. Ventura 13.6.7 is as far as it will go. I hope to buy a refurbished M3Pro in the next few months.
I Buy a MacBook Pro 16, M1 Pro with 16 gb Ram 512 GB HDD with 37 Cycles from private Person for 1500 Euro. Great Value. No Scratches great Device and only a little slower as my Mac Studio at Video Exports I love it.
Actually, Apple also gives a a good student discount ( 10 %) for productive machines and a special discount for Apple employees may reach 70 % for some products
Definitely worth it from other retailers. I got a MacBook Air m2 15" for £900 when the new price is £1400. Only 2 months old and 14 battery cycles. Comes with 2 year warranty.
Bought a refurbished MacBook Pro 6 yrs ago but had issues with the keyboard lighting, couldn't fix it and was given a new one. Refurbished can be a hit or miss, and for the difference in price I don't want to deal with the hassle.
that "power on hours" dont mean the actual hours the machine has been on, because my over 2 year old Macbook Air M1 reports under 700 power on hours, that would be like under one months overall. I have my machine on around 12 hours per day. That refurbished machine has only been used like few days according to the data written. The SSD cannot be replaced because its soldered to the mainboard.
Now I understand something about the Power Cycle: New Mac ±76, Refurb ±149 (doubled). I think it's doubled because for Refurb - Apple has to retest everything again. That's why since the SSD still same, the amount is recorded doubled. I think it's not entirely used, rather it's been returned within the 14 days warranty period for any reasons.
just to be clear , if you returning your product back to open , even if you havent open, it will not go into refurbished, we are mislead by tinking that refurbished mean used, but its not
Hi, I bought my MacBook Pro 15in in 2015, I have been using it everyday, day and night, even ran a few ML models (of course in complete helicopter mode 😂, all fans took off!) took ages to train but did finish it. Absolutely did not crash once, The cycle count on that machine now is around 588. It has reached a point where my speakers are not working that well, but nothing wrong with it, just getting quite old. So, I don’t think you can really get to 1000 battery cycle count even with heavy use before you really should replace it. Also, I don’t let my battery run down more than 30%, I just leave that on charge. It is better for the battery life as far as I understand. I have recently bought a apple refurbished MacBook Pro 16in M2 max, 32Gb, cycle count was 4, 3 weeks ago when I opened the box powered up, just got to 5 a few days ago. I have been running 3D models, train a few ML models, just for use reference. Super fast, super happy with it. 😊
Well I have 1450 cycles on a 2015 13" and have never reset it to factory settings. The battery still lasts for 4 hours of coding + web surfing. Not full day of TV shows as it was 6 years ago but still very good even compared to some new laptops. Was about to switch it for 2 years already but I just can't, it's perfect😂
You asked if any of us had bought an Apple Refurbished Mac. Yes, I bought an Apple Refurbished Mac Pro tower in 2007. 16 years later I still have it, it’s been upgraded many times, it still runs, and it never needed repair service.
My friend got refurbished 13" Macbook Pro few years ago, and its trackpad did not work on the whole surface. He did not notice in time, he thought it was normal. After I saw that I was sceptical to get refurbished one. I would rather buy used under warranty. It is usually cheaper and safer.
I’ve never bought refurbished, simply, because unfortunately, I’m kind of one of those people that likes to have the latest and greatest and saves up for the new one. But I’ve had a couple friends buy refurbished M1 MacBook Air over the years when they’ve come to me asking about new computer recommendations. None of them have failed ever. They literally are functionally new.
Never seen her work , i know she is driven but cramming up, all nighters, being productive, god save me, i think it was her idea that we have seprate rooms for exams , well it suited her better with her friends and all, no that was me being cruel , i remember this one time when we were in close columns , i can bet you for the first 45 mins , then i only started to write something , kam se kam pass ho jayein, it would have been better to just leave the exam hall or fail toghether, i didn’t want to fail , would be good actually something to talk about, i know i never prepared upto my expectations, better notes maybe , how good actually ?
The SSDs on the M-series MacBooks are soldered. They are replaceable, but it's an awful amount of work and probably not worth it for Apple considering the chips wouldn't have gone through enough wear for it to be a problem anyways (as compared to the exterior chassis and the battery which usually get replaced, along with any other parts "as needed"). Refurb is perfectly fine! P.S. The refurbished SSDs are probably also getting the OS reinstalled and tested, so that might be a factor as well.
Maybe u guys can help me here. I'm a student and im thinking about buying a laptop for my needs at university. Basically multi-tasking, writing reports in word with extensions (Mendeley), seeing multiple books and documents at the same time. But I wanted quality without being much outdated and for a low budget (around 500€ for a refurbished laptop). Many people recommended me to seek a macbook according to my needs and the quality I wanted but I'm lost in the models and the quality of them. If u guys can give me opinions on the best possible options I can get for a macbook I appreciate it 🫶
I just got my 2023 Pro M3 Pro refurbished and you’d never know it wasn’t refurbished if it didn’t say it on the box. Packaged just the same. I won’t buy new anymore.
There some risk in buying refurbished stuffs from Apple. I brought M1 MacBook Air, iPad Pro 11”, iPad Pro 11”, iPad Mini 6. All working fine and feel like new. However, the 12.9” iPad Pro was bad. The environmental sensor wasn’t work that it wasn’t been woken when I open the case of tap it. It took me a few visit to Apple Genius to fine that fault. They finally replace it with a service unit. So, it wasn’t ideal purchasing experience. One may say that it was faulty from 1 out of 4 devices only. Well, I never experienced this since my purchase of new Apple devices from iPhone 3GS. So, there is higher chance to get a faulty device. So, I don’t recommend buying refurbished device from Apple unless one understand computer technology understands it well.
I bought my refurbished MacBook Pro m2 max just a few days ago and I can say that its really good deal, because I was able to save 500 dollars and still got super computer.
I’ve bought a refurbished M1 IPad Pro and also recommend someone to buy a Refurbished M2 MacBook Air, I think it’s safe to say that buying refurbished is basically buying brand new. Even an ex Apple employee I know said that there’s basically no point of not buying refurbished. They literally replace the housing for every refurbished product and had done lots of testing to them before getting sold again. And I think that it got more of everything internally to it is because of the testing done to it before selling
Im thinking.. they just move the Logic Board to another case, thats why everything is so new. A new case with new keyboard, screen. etc... move the logic board.. and BAM!!! refurbished!
Looking for visual defects on the Apple Refurb will be as sucessful as finding a pot of gold at the end of rainbows. Apple replace the housing on refurb Macbooks.
$2600 Australian for the machine you ordered(but 512GB as 256GB SSD isn't available) by the way the “Aussie tax” on that is only $220 AU. If you take the 10% tax Australia pays off the price we are playing a little less after currency conversion
I was going to get a 16" MBP with M3 Pro (18 GB RAM, 1 TB SSD, 18 GPU cores). But upon seeing the first benchmarks and how close they are to unbinned M2 Pro in terms of CPU and GPU, I cancelled my order. I got a refurbished 16" MBP with M2 Max (32 GB, 1 TB SSD, 38 GPU cores) for only ~300€ more (discounted by ~600€ from the original price). CPU performance should be about the same, slightly worse in single-core and slightly worse or slightly better in multi-core, depending on the application. However GPU performance should be much much better for workloads that don't involve raytracing (which I don't have a need for at the moment). The refurbished MBP basically looks flawless and the battery only has 3 cycles at 100% capacity. I couldn't spot any flaws so far.
I am gonna bet that the "bench testing" for units destined for Apple Store Refurbs are subject to very stringent cosmetic and internal testing and diagnostics which generate very specific reports for each INDIVIDUAL machine...then thoroughly "inspected / retested" before final boxing. Basically, the machines are made functionally NEW.
Same, mine is "brand new" and the battery cycle is 2, and it has finger prints on the trackpad and some stains on the chassis.... Maybe I'll consider returning it....🤔
i got a refurbished mac book pro 15 touch bar back in 2016. Working fine still except for the screengate issue with 15 inch laptops. i think you cant trade in a refurbished mac at apple store. I tried once with my refurbished mac few years ago. Not sure about now.
Can you do a 13inch m2 mbp battery test? Like using it for your software engineering tasks. Recently got one as a gift and I would like to know how long it actually lasts as compared to the 20 hours apple claims. Thanks
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I have acquired a refurbished m2 pro 16 inch, 16gb ram. It has been 3 days now since I have bought it. It came perfectly cleaned and with no scratches. I'm a Unity3d and Swift developer and I have been doing heavy stuff on this machine. It looks like it's ok.
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@@RL-ku6wx RAM is pretty enough. I was afraid of 16gb, because my old Mac Mini used more than 24gb. I did see a video from Alex regarding ram in m1/m2, they work differently.
In a daily basis, I use simultaneously blender, Unity, vs code, slack, source tree, chrome with about 5 tabs, Xcode. The machine is running smoothly
This version is 512gb storage, I would buy a 1Tb if it wasn’t so expensive
Running projects locally. I’ll achieve the full storage capacity soon, so that I’ll use the projects in a external storage
@@RL-ku6wx no prob. Thanks.
for a school student and everyday use like browsing and light gaming (like iphone games) on a refurbished macbook air m2 should i get 256g or 512g?
edit: because on the laptop i currently have its 512g and i have almost 100g used (lenovo slim pad 3, i think)
I've been routinely buying refurbed equipment from Apple since 2009, and have never had a problem with anything. Currently typing this on a 30-month-old refurbed M1 Air that still looks and feels as good as new, apart from a few scratches near the USB-C ports. It's a daily driver, so battery cycles are at 765 with 86% of original capacity, and I can see me replacing the battery in a few years, assuming I even notice the loss of battery life, given how good it still is.
I was really glad to see 76 power cycles on your brand new MacBook. I recently got a refurbished one with 160 power cycles yet only 4 hours of powered-on time. I wondered if there was something amiss there, but sounds like it's normal!
I got the refurbished m1 max 16 this summer and loving it! Saved tons of money at least $1000!
nice 👍
It’s because when apple refurbishes the macbooks, they replace pretty much everything.
Any evidence please?
@@themedleb "You will receive a refurbished device with genuine Apple replacement parts (as needed) that has been thoroughly cleaned and inspected. Refurbished iOS devices will come with new battery and outer shell." from apple's website.
I paid for two macs for my whole life (all the other ones came from my employers). The first one was a first gen rMBP (late 2012 model) that I bought used from Amazon, and the second one was a Apple refurbished 2020 M1 MBP. Both machines were one year old when I bougth them and I saved a significant amount of money. The first machine is still working (my kids are using it now) although it is 11 years old now; and my wife uses the second machine with the M1 chip. No issues with either of them. Very happy with my purchases and I would not pay the full price for any Macs, unless there is a really good reason.
Great video. Refurbished Apple product quality is amazing. Somewhere on the site they provide the definition of “refurbished” and it’s something like “new shell, new screen, all internals cleaned and repaired”. They also give a 1year warranty. Amazon renewed does not go that far.
Edit; Apple’s website-
“You will receive a refurbished device with genuine Apple replacement parts (as needed) that has been thoroughly cleaned and inspected. Refurbished iOS devices will come with new battery and outer shell. Every device will come with all accessories, cables and operating systems. footnote 1 All Apple Certified Refurbished products are packaged in a brand new white box and will be sent to you with free shipping and returns.”
Unfortunately a laptop wouldn't qualify as an iOS device so they don't guarantee outer shell or battery
Hey Alex, I bought a refurb in 2014, a MacBook Pro 13" Late 2013 Retina and used it for 9 years. I ran DriveDX a few days ago and the SSD (256GB) has still so much juice left (99%). I also ordered the 8GB version (I was low on budget) but received the 16GB version, so that was sweet. Overall, I had a good time with it but I ran into issues when MacOS wouldn't update and thus, affected the sync of one of my iPad app. Plus the screen was almost busted and the battery was 25 months pregnant with no sign of giving birth, so I knew it was time for a change.
I decided to go for the new MacBook Pro M3 Pro instead of another refurb MacBook Pro M2 Pro due to several factors; Superior chip, energy savings, battery life and I also love the new space black. The bezel of the space black blends with the screen when you watch videos, so there is no distracting silver lining, which I found that to be quite cool.
And thanks for the video!
So much work gone into this video - thank you! I’m considering a refurb m2 pro
Just received my refurbished MacBook Pro 16" M3 Pro (18 GB | 1 TB) from Apple yesterday. After first boot, battery cycle count is 3. After updating Sonoma to the latest version and installing Xcode, Homebrew, and smartmontools (to obtain SSD stats), I have 1.94 TB data read, 1.58 TB data written, 296 power cycles, 32 power on hours, and 19 unsafe shutdowns. Finally time to retire my MacBook Pro 2016 (which underwent four repairs under AppleCare, including a replacement butterfly keyboard just last summer due to a stuck spacebar).
I wish Apple had this program in mexico. Great video.
Bought a refurbished i7 Macbook Pro, M1 Air and M2 Air (quite fresh into their product-cycle) and very happy with them. Sold the i7 and M1 to friends, not a big issue for them to get an initially refurbished machine. Would buy another Apple-refurbished product any time.
Yes, and If you have a model affected by a recall, they pretty much refurbish it for you. It's amazing! I've got a story on that. I'll probably do a UA-cam short on it at some point.
Apple I'm looking at you. Don't be unsafe 😂
In 2021 I bought an Apple Refurbished base model M1 MacBook Air, at a cost saving of 15%. Its battery had completed all of two charge cycles and according to the Coconut Battery app had been manufactured some 8 months after the Mac's date of manufacture. To all intents and purposes it was a new Mac.
thank you for making this video 👍
I’m pretty sure the SSD is soldered in place so highly unlikely that Apple would replace it.
I do think at this point is safer to buy a refurbished one than a brand new one. I got a MacBook 16 M2 Max recently, the 64gb model, and it came with a defect on the camera. It simply wasn't working. When I arrived at the store to replace it, they said my delivery dates for that machine were too short and that must have been a returned machine. I suspect Apple or their partners may have packed the machine back and sold it as a brand new, but with a defect.
EDIT: I have also to mention that I replaced that 64GB to a "brand new" 32GB machine, that came scratched out of the box. So, yet again another issue with the replaced machine.
For the refurbished ones, they have to look and properly tested or fix it to ensure they are able to be used again, instead of having this (super gross) quality-control failure like the camera not working.
I have previously bought a refurbished one that lasted for years. However, I do find out a minor scratch on the lid on it AFTER using it for a few days. And I'm sure that wasn't there, because I checked every spot. So I presume they applied some sort of "make up" to make it look fresh which went away few days after I got it.
I also assume that this "free returns, money back without any defect/reason" and so on conditions that they offer (and other brands and companies in the US as well) might enable them to accept a bit more defective units when shipping. That's just a guess.
I bought myself a refurbished M1 Mac Mini, my wife a M1 MacBook. I was very pleased with what Apple delivered.
Got my 16 inch m1 max 64gb 1tb refurbished and it’s absolutely indifferent compared to a brand new one. I added apple care and it’s causing me zero stress
I have only bought refurbished since 2009. Over thirty of them. Only one was a lemon, and Apple made good on it with no hazzle. All of these refurbished computers worked well for many years. I currently am typing on my 2017 MacBookPro in 2024 and it has never given me a problem. Though now I have maxed out on upgrades of MacOS. Ventura 13.6.7 is as far as it will go. I hope to buy a refurbished M3Pro in the next few months.
I've only purchased refurb'd since 2004. No issues. Best Regards and Best Wishes!
I Buy a MacBook Pro 16, M1 Pro with 16 gb Ram 512 GB HDD with 37 Cycles from private Person for 1500 Euro. Great Value. No Scratches great Device and only a little slower as my Mac Studio at Video Exports I love it.
Actually, Apple also gives a a good student discount ( 10 %) for productive machines and a special discount for Apple employees may reach 70 % for some products
Definitely worth it from other retailers. I got a MacBook Air m2 15" for £900 when the new price is £1400. Only 2 months old and 14 battery cycles. Comes with 2 year warranty.
What is that command that shows the SSD info?
Does Apple allow refurbished MacBooks to be traded in later? What kind of value do they give refurbished trade ins? Anyone?
great question. I need to explore that option
I feel like these aren’t actually “refurbished” instead are just openboxed items or just returned within 14 days
i bought my refurb m1 mac air (16gb ram / 512 gb ssd) in Nov 2022, it came with a battery cycle count of 1, looks brand new with no scratches / dents
nice
Bought a refurbished MacBook Pro 6 yrs ago but had issues with the keyboard lighting, couldn't fix it and was given a new one. Refurbished can be a hit or miss, and for the difference in price I don't want to deal with the hassle.
that "power on hours" dont mean the actual hours the machine has been on, because my over 2 year old Macbook Air M1 reports under 700 power on hours, that would be like under one months overall. I have my machine on around 12 hours per day. That refurbished machine has only been used like few days according to the data written. The SSD cannot be replaced because its soldered to the mainboard.
me too! M2 Pro, and it works perfectly!
Now I understand something about the Power Cycle:
New Mac ±76, Refurb ±149 (doubled).
I think it's doubled because for Refurb - Apple has to retest everything again.
That's why since the SSD still same, the amount is recorded doubled.
I think it's not entirely used, rather it's been returned within the 14 days warranty period for any reasons.
The only refurb thing I have bought was an iPad Pro. It failed after a year. Never buying refurb again.
Yes. Got my M1 Air refurbished and it was basically new.
just to be clear , if you returning your product back to open , even if you havent open, it will not go into refurbished, we are mislead by tinking that refurbished mean used, but its not
Hi, I bought my MacBook Pro 15in in 2015, I have been using it everyday, day and night, even ran a few ML models (of course in complete helicopter mode 😂, all fans took off!) took ages to train but did finish it. Absolutely did not crash once, The cycle count on that machine now is around 588. It has reached a point where my speakers are not working that well, but nothing wrong with it, just getting quite old. So, I don’t think you can really get to 1000 battery cycle count even with heavy use before you really should replace it. Also, I don’t let my battery run down more than 30%, I just leave that on charge. It is better for the battery life as far as I understand. I have recently bought a apple refurbished MacBook Pro 16in M2 max, 32Gb, cycle count was 4, 3 weeks ago when I opened the box powered up, just got to 5 a few days ago. I have been running 3D models, train a few ML models, just for use reference. Super fast, super happy with it. 😊
Well I have 1450 cycles on a 2015 13" and have never reset it to factory settings. The battery still lasts for 4 hours of coding + web surfing. Not full day of TV shows as it was 6 years ago but still very good even compared to some new laptops. Was about to switch it for 2 years already but I just can't, it's perfect😂
You asked if any of us had bought an Apple Refurbished Mac. Yes, I bought an Apple Refurbished Mac Pro tower in 2007. 16 years later I still have it, it’s been upgraded many times, it still runs, and it never needed repair service.
My friend got refurbished 13" Macbook Pro few years ago, and its trackpad did not work on the whole surface. He did not notice in time, he thought it was normal. After I saw that I was sceptical to get refurbished one. I would rather buy used under warranty. It is usually cheaper and safer.
Always refurb directly from Apple for over a decade, never an issue. No effect on resale value either.
good to know about the resale value
Feel real good that I got to buy the 15inch M2 16gigs 512gb for 1399 special deal that Best Buy had (New)
once in a great while brand new machines will be on a small sale at best buy.
I’ve never bought refurbished, simply, because unfortunately, I’m kind of one of those people that likes to have the latest and greatest and saves up for the new one. But I’ve had a couple friends buy refurbished M1 MacBook Air over the years when they’ve come to me asking about new computer recommendations. None of them have failed ever. They literally are functionally new.
The Apple refurbished they only keep the motherboard from the old laptop so the housing screen keyboard trackpad and battery are all new
What is the command or tool your run to get all those details on the ssd please?
Yeah, my question too! I guess the video is too old to warrant a reply 🙂
Tom is a genius.
Never seen her work , i know she is driven but cramming up, all nighters, being productive, god save me, i think it was her idea that we have seprate rooms for exams , well it suited her better with her friends and all, no that was me being cruel , i remember this one time when we were in close columns , i can bet you for the first 45 mins , then i only started to write something , kam se kam pass ho jayein, it would have been better to just leave the exam hall or fail toghether, i didn’t want to fail , would be good actually something to talk about, i know i never prepared upto my expectations, better notes maybe , how good actually ?
The SSDs on the M-series MacBooks are soldered. They are replaceable, but it's an awful amount of work and probably not worth it for Apple considering the chips wouldn't have gone through enough wear for it to be a problem anyways (as compared to the exterior chassis and the battery which usually get replaced, along with any other parts "as needed"). Refurb is perfectly fine!
P.S. The refurbished SSDs are probably also getting the OS reinstalled and tested, so that might be a factor as well.
It is sadly mainly in North America you can get refurbished
Maybe u guys can help me here.
I'm a student and im thinking about buying a laptop for my needs at university. Basically multi-tasking, writing reports in word with extensions (Mendeley), seeing multiple books and documents at the same time. But I wanted quality without being much outdated and for a low budget (around 500€ for a refurbished laptop). Many people recommended me to seek a macbook according to my needs and the quality I wanted but I'm lost in the models and the quality of them. If u guys can give me opinions on the best possible options I can get for a macbook I appreciate it 🫶
I just got my 2023 Pro M3 Pro refurbished and you’d never know it wasn’t refurbished if it didn’t say it on the box. Packaged just the same. I won’t buy new anymore.
There some risk in buying refurbished stuffs from Apple.
I brought M1 MacBook Air, iPad Pro 11”, iPad Pro 11”, iPad Mini 6. All working fine and feel like new.
However, the 12.9” iPad Pro was bad. The environmental sensor wasn’t work that it wasn’t been woken when I open the case of tap it.
It took me a few visit to Apple Genius to fine that fault. They finally replace it with a service unit.
So, it wasn’t ideal purchasing experience.
One may say that it was faulty from 1 out of 4 devices only. Well, I never experienced this since my purchase of new Apple devices from iPhone 3GS.
So, there is higher chance to get a faulty device.
So, I don’t recommend buying refurbished device from Apple unless one understand computer technology understands it well.
I love it.. "They make this way too easy to order ... making me spend money..."
I bought my refurbished MacBook Pro m2 max just a few days ago and I can say that its really good deal, because I was able to save 500 dollars and still got super computer.
I’ve bought a refurbished M1 IPad Pro and also recommend someone to buy a Refurbished M2 MacBook Air, I think it’s safe to say that buying refurbished is basically buying brand new. Even an ex Apple employee I know said that there’s basically no point of not buying refurbished. They literally replace the housing for every refurbished product and had done lots of testing to them before getting sold again. And I think that it got more of everything internally to it is because of the testing done to it before selling
I din’t know SSDs are consumable as well..🙄
Just buy my 16" macbook pro m1 max 16 gb ram from apple refurbished program save 1 grand on it, having not issue at all.
😮 thats a huge save.
Im thinking.. they just move the Logic Board to another case, thats why everything is so new. A new case with new keyboard, screen. etc... move the logic board.. and BAM!!! refurbished!
What is that Terminal battery and SSD info tool you've used?
I’ve bough a refurb i7 - was flawless.
May not go that big but you can get the $3499 M2 Max 16” MBP for just under $3000. That’s a lot of savings.
I bought Apple Refurbished MacBook Pro 16 M1 Pro 16/512 for $1500 and it was basically brand new with 4 battery cycles
Looking for visual defects on the Apple Refurb will be as sucessful as finding a pot of gold at the end of rainbows.
Apple replace the housing on refurb Macbooks.
Tangentially related, bhphoto has a few bnib m1 max 32gb/1tb at $2400. Bought one last week.
Military / Veterans discounts (10%) are available directly from Apple....but can't be used for refurb or with special Apple Card financing
$2600 Australian for the machine you ordered(but 512GB as 256GB SSD isn't available) by the way the “Aussie tax” on that is only $220 AU. If you take the 10% tax Australia pays off the price we are playing a little less after currency conversion
Please provide the benchmark application name
another commenter mentioned using smartmontools for this, if that helps
I was going to get a 16" MBP with M3 Pro (18 GB RAM, 1 TB SSD, 18 GPU cores). But upon seeing the first benchmarks and how close they are to unbinned M2 Pro in terms of CPU and GPU, I cancelled my order. I got a refurbished 16" MBP with M2 Max (32 GB, 1 TB SSD, 38 GPU cores) for only ~300€ more (discounted by ~600€ from the original price). CPU performance should be about the same, slightly worse in single-core and slightly worse or slightly better in multi-core, depending on the application. However GPU performance should be much much better for workloads that don't involve raytracing (which I don't have a need for at the moment). The refurbished MBP basically looks flawless and the battery only has 3 cycles at 100% capacity. I couldn't spot any flaws so far.
Man if I’m spending $1,500 + old or new, might as well spend the extra $300-$500 for a brand new computer. Thank you for the informative vid though
I am gonna bet that the "bench testing" for units destined for Apple Store Refurbs are subject to very stringent cosmetic and internal testing and diagnostics which generate very specific reports for each INDIVIDUAL machine...then thoroughly "inspected / retested" before final boxing. Basically, the machines are made functionally NEW.
Thanks 🤞
The 2019 iMac ones fine from 2023
IMO, the price difference is not worth it.
If say, refurbished ones are generally 1/3 off, then they will be attractive to price conscious buyers!
I got a brand new M3 MacBook Pro and it had 5 cycles on the battery out of the box. I’ve see anywhere from as little as 3 and as much as 5.
Same, mine is "brand new" and the battery cycle is 2, and it has finger prints on the trackpad and some stains on the chassis.... Maybe I'll consider returning it....🤔
Hey is MacBook Air M1 base model sufficient for iOS development
would you say 1100 is a fair price for a 2021 M1 16” 512GB 16GB memory
59 battery cycles 96% capacity
no 12 digit serial number the first letter F indicates that it is recovered
i got a refurbished mac book pro 15 touch bar back in 2016. Working fine still except for the screengate issue with 15 inch laptops.
i think you cant trade in a refurbished mac at apple store. I tried once with my refurbished mac few years ago. Not sure about now.
Well, Tom's a genius
Please can you share the command for SSD info?
How can we check written/read cycles?
What terminal commands did you use to readout the shutdowns and the ssd read and write data?
smartmontools
You should had used a blue polo shirt! Darn, it would be a killer!
Correction, you did, later in the video while with Tom =D
K-I-L-L-E-R!!!
HE LOOKS LIKE STEVE JOBS😮
What about Macbook Air M1 refurbished? How they gonna deal with that one now?
Twice, now, I've had not good refurbished experiences. Buyer beware.
unlucky. where did you buy them?
@@AZisk Directly from the Apple Store.
@@gregf9160what happened?
Can you do a 13inch m2 mbp battery test? Like using it for your software engineering tasks. Recently got one as a gift and I would like to know how long it actually lasts as compared to the 20 hours apple claims. Thanks
Hi, how do I run the utility to check my MBP SSD information 6:18
@@djjason868 another commenter mentioned using smartmontools for this, if that helps
How to check the ssd status?
I use a refurbished one
Apple always use brand new chassis on refurbished products so you can never tell from the look of it.
I am in Kenya. Do you know of a way I can peacefully purchase a certified refub from the apple site and ship here?
Have you wondered why they were refurbished?
yes
What is the command/place to nagigate to see the number of times the SSD has read and written? Thanks
Do you think it’s best to learn Azure or AWS?
Is it fair to compare the price of a refurbished 8GB machine vs a 16GB brand new one? The new one seems like a better deal then...
the price compared in the video was between same spec machines, new and refurb.
@@AZisk ua-cam.com/video/UoRKtCkY1ZU/v-deo.html - shows refurbished has 8GB; the new one was spec'ed for 16GB. What am I missing?
@@TechnoRiff You missed that the new 8GB RAM 512GB config is $1399 (0:43). Refurb 8GB RAM 512GB config is $1189.
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Can you share the codes, so we can have access to the same information you had?
Good
Alex can I get the refurbished.😊😊😊😊😊
Would someone be able to explain how to use the tool at 6:18?