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The PO sneaking suit was super figgin cool and totally unique at the time. The legs kinda threw me off as it was kinda weird that the legs were armored, but the rest of the suit isn't, iirc. My fav sneaking suit is the PO suit's evolution, the PW sneaking suit. It is basically the same, but without the random leg armor it just looks sleeker, which would go much better for sneaking around as opposed to heavy armor around the legs makin a bunch of noise. Everything about the PW suit is just so damn clean, and seeing it in GZ was such a treat.
I think the two psp episodes are really underrated but I loved them. Also I think the low performance psp hardware gave them some kind of nostalgic mood that reminds the first ps1 original metal gear solid.
The fps wasnt a result of low power hardware as both games can run at a constant 30 fps on actual psp hardware, Konami just locked the framerate to 20 fps for some odd reason.
Peace walker was the best Metal gear game hands down, it had a lot of backstory if you payed attention and there were hella Easter eggs and it’s fully canon to the main series which is my favorite part.
@@1CHILL_PILL1peace walker is the best mgs. People just do not know....
I recently just bought a psp as my old one was damaged to specifically replay these games
@@PoloBlack-ne6vm No way in hell
peace walker levels are actually smaller than portable ops & give less maneuver options
it really took me by surprise how expansive PO levels are after beating PW
In terms of openess yes but i more so meant in terms of combined space. PO much closer to MGS proper though definitely.
@@christiancryers Portable Ops is like a smaller Ground Zeroes (which I prefer over linear).
PW is linear like 3, 4 and Rising. That's not a bad thing. But PW is especially linear besides bossfights. Very small tunnel like levels. Even 3, 4 and MGR opened up sometimes.
I know it's the PSP restrictions but still PO did it better imo. If they remake PW it should be either like PO/GZ, or be like the other linear games. Hell maybe give open world another shot. But they should take inspiration from the likes of GTA and Ghost Recon Wildlands. MGSV kind of did it badly.
Portable ops was fantastic, really loved this game
My heart still bleeds for Jonathan 💔
I had a very elaborate head cannon that it was secretly Kaz (Because they share a VA) and that he would undergo some sort of personality change to turn him into Miller. But that got shot down along with Johnny.
@@christiancryersmy canon too but unfortunately peace walker already had a tape about their first meeting so Johnny being Kaz is a lie. Along with the getting shot down thing yeah
Big Boss' first recruit 😭🙏
IMO Gene was really memorable, especially when he manipulated all of Big Boss' soldiers into shooting each other just with words. I'm also assuming he wasn't called Viper due to the villain of Ghost Babel (Black Arts Viper) having the same codename.
I definitely agree that his actions are memorable, and you're probably right about the Ghost Babel thing. My main nitpicks were just with his design and performance, but that's subjective so really on his own he's quite strong a character.
He birthed the concept of outer heaven, and planted that meme into big bosses mind
There is one thing that most people don't realise when comparing Portable Ops and Peace Walker. It's not an entirely fair comparison. When the PSP launched in 2004, to save battery life Sony limited game developers to using 266MHz of the PSP's CPU power. This limitation was removed in 2007 and games made after that time can use the full 333MHz of power that the PSP has. So Peace Walker was for all intents and purposes developed for a more powerful system.
I think it was a mistake for the developers to use a 3D camera for this game. It wasn't a standard in the series to have this at this point, with the only game to do so being MGS3: Subsistence. On a system with one analog stick a fixed camera like Snake Eater would have made far more sense. This also goes for the PSP version of Peace Walker.
Regarding the canonicity of Portable Ops, in an interview in 2014 Kojima said that it takes place in the timeline but that not all of the details are canon. He went on to say that for him the difference is between the game he directed and the games he didn't. Portable Ops isn't included in the Deja Vu mission in Ground Zeroes or the official timeline released in 2015. The only thing is, if it indeed isn't canon, why didn't Kojima just say straight out in 2014 that it isn't canon when asked about it? The whole thing just doesn't make any sense.
It isn't helped by Peace Walker appearing to have its cake and eat it. It simultaneously acts as if Portable Ops isn't canon but also acts as if Big Boss went through the character changes he did in Portable Ops, with him leading a group of soldiers at the start. Going from MGS3 to this is a pretty jarring transition, as he has shown absolutely no inclination to be a leader at the end of MGS3. Portable Ops helps to fill that gap. If Kojima wanted to make it non-canon he should have done a better job of explaining this in Peace Walker. This is coming from someone who love Peace Walker and has put hundreds of hours into it. That said, there are parts of the story of Portable Ops that I'm definitely glad aren't canon, which I won't discuss since you wanted to avoid spoilers.
Portable Ops is actually a better game for me to play through than it is for most at the moment. I recruited loads of soldiers on my first run through the game, so my units are filled up now. So I can just play through the game and not recruit anyone except for Johnny.
Kojima specifically says the main story mode of the game did happen just non of the side missions
your right it's not fair. Portable ops was arguably the biggest piece of garbage the franchise produced (And thats only in sales), It's not canon, and 90% of the people who talk about it never played it. It's unfair to compare peace walker (Outsold, and canon) to a steaming pile of trash.
@@NewBornMilk it's definitely not the worst thing the franchise has made (NES Metal Gear port) also Kojima himself has said that the main story of the game is part of the main saga along with the fact that they reference the events of the game at the beginning of Peace Walker
Nothing in Portable Ops contradicts the old lore. Grey Fox was close, but not even him.
Yeah you said it well. Almost Nothing more to add than a strong agree. Portable Ops is almost needed for the canon to fill that gap of BB leading. Sure we don’t NEED need to see it, but you can almost say that about any prequel.
This was the very first metal gear solid game I played. I remember being in love with the menu/UI design because I was really into art and graphic design at the time. I still think it looks incredibly good, even compared to peace walker and mgs5. I didn’t play any other metal gear solid games until 5 came out and then I became obsessed. This is the only (mainline) game I haven’t played since I became obsessed with metal gear, I’m definitely going back to play it. Thank you.
For your first scripted work, you knocked it out of the park! It's great to see such an underappreciated title to get the recognition it rightfully deserves. On another note, the whole issue with fans deeming non-Kojima directed titles to be mediocre or *not worth* playing is unfair. Games like MG Acid, Ghost Babel, Rising, and Portable Ops were both faithful and unique in their own respect. The only outlier would have to be Metal Gear Survive, but that was nothing more than a cash grab in my opinion. Hope you get to make more videos in this fashion :DDDD
Portable ops was such a great game, and is super important to the series, lorewise and gameplaywise. For the gameplay, it gave us our first taste of building our own army, with capturing soldiers and even playing as them(Python was so damn fun). But it also gave us a ton of super important lore that shaped the future. One of my fav aspects is how it hammers in what The Biss was lamenting, "yesterday's friends become tomorrow's enemies". After MGS3 while still in FOX, Snake fought alongside a soldier who would become one of Snake's most trusted friends, who Snake had believed died. In PO his old friend, Python, is still alive and tasked with killing Snake. This whole shit shocks and deeply hurts Snake. It helps to hammer in his idea of The Boss's will, which he still hasn't his idea yet. Only later, after meeting and defeating Gene, does Snake get the idea for Outer Heaven, born from Gene's dream he passes on to Snake in the form of "Army's Heaven". After fighting his once great friend to the death, and shown new light through Gene, does Big Boss finally have his own interpretation of The Boss's will, which was Gene's original idea tweaked a bit, Outer Heaven. Then there is the other just kinda cool connections and nods, Roy Campbell and Johnny just to name a couple. The biggest being Null/Frank Yeager who would later be Grey Fox. This game is just amazing. Even tho it has been demoted to "a spinoff or sorts", the Master Books all say the same thing. Basically while the game PO is not canon, the events within, namely the entire San Heironymo incident IS INDEED CANON.
The fact you dont have more subscribers but your commentary and descriptiveness is better than 90% of UA-camrs that do these types of things. Good work man, keep it up! (I just came from the Zombi video. I swore than nobody else had ever heard of this game but me before. Thanks for bringing it back to light!)
This was great, and you don't come off as the garden variety UA-camr writing essays because you clearly don't have your head up your ass like many of them can come off at times. Portable Ops is one of the few MGS titles I've never played, yet now I've got a decent handle on what it's all about due to your editing skills and magic, or whatever the hell goes into making videos lol.
Great video! I always felt that PO/PO+ was underrated.
Man, I feel old remembering this. I played the PSP saga to hell and back, and both of the PO games were no exception. I remember just being a lad back in the day, inside a now closed game shop near where my dad lives. And I remember being in that store, looking at all sorts of games (even an Ehrgeiz moveset booklet) and had to pick between MGA2 and PO. I picked the former first, but I picked up PO later on.
From what I can remember, I used to dislike PO for being too difficult and PO+ for the OSP stipulation. In PO, you can die very fast. In PO+ you’re a sponge with certain characters (I call them legacy characters) but PO+ has issues I’ll get to later. As far as the story goes, I felt it was simple and easy to follow despite not remembering much due to my PSP being broken for years now. But I remember thinking Null was cool, I loved the environment you fought Python in, Raxa was something else, and I really liked how Steve Blum portrayed Gene “SOLDIERS! Hear my words!” I’d argue he has a lot more charisma due to his voice actor. I still consider PO canon even if it’s up for debate and Miller has that snarky comment at the beginning of PO.
Now for PO+, I never got to experience the online portion of it :/. But I did greatly enjoy the nature of the levels, being randomly generated. It reminded me a lot of Infinity Mode from Coded Arms, another PSP game from Konami that was a 1st person dungeon crawler. It might as well be called PO VR missions, because that’s essentially what it was. I enjoyed it a lot despite only having 47 levels across 4 difficulties (4 easy, 8 normal, 15 hard, 20 extreme) despite easy always having the same 4 levels. I enjoyed building up a team of powerful soldiers and even getting intel up so high that items were always marked in the pause menu or your minimap, then going to town with a delivery man soldier. Good times.
I also want to say that PO/PO+ >PW/MGSV when it comes to soldier diversity. PO and PO+ have the most diverse cast of soldiers in the entire the series. I love MSF and DDs designs, don’t get me wrong. But I’d say that the former was more iconic because you could play as SO MANY different types of characters, even made up ones like the female ocelot unit!
I'm so glad you mentioned the tech in PW being too advanced. I used to love PW, but the more I thought about it the more I think MPO did it better.
I miss MGSPO, I did enjoy it more than Peace Walker because despite the PSP controls, it felt less complicated than Peace Walker gameplay and story wise. I really enjoyed it and by the way, you did a good job creatinga script for this one. Keep up the good work!
Adding another comment here regarding recruitment (and other fun facts):
There’s actually a little known detail (maybe not these days) where you can mass recruit soldiers in both PO/PO+ in one go. You know how you have a sneaking team split up into multiple groups? Your teammates will actually stay on the map in cardboard boxes. If you knock out a soldier near the box and hit the box, a red “!” will appear and the screen will turn black for a second. Afterwards it will go back to normal, with the soldier recruited. There’s actually no limit to this trick, you can recruit literally every soldier in the level using one box, which is still much faster than just using the truck. The reason why this is so successful is that PO/PO+ can be cheesed with the knock mechanic, where if you knock and get the enemies’ attention three times in a row, they will come sprinting to your position. Very helpful in Extreme difficulty.
Part of the reason why I have a love/hate relationship with PO+ is due to the OSP rule, which still persists even after you beat extreme mode. The weapons are there for online mode or boss rush mode, the former being shutdown and latter if you have a cleared save file from PO :/. It’s a needless restriction, imagine playing PW where you could bring back gear but never take it on missions. Some soldiers (Raiden, Gene, Null, Tengu) come equipped with melee weapons that CANNOT be removed, but that also means you have only 3 slots to work with.
I did find a means to cheat this with legacy characters, however. If a non legacy soldier dies in the field or loses stamina, they’re gone for good. But if a legacy character is gone, the next time you replay the difficulty they can be found as a prisoner and recruited again. Doing this after clearing special missions will allow them to spawn back in with their equipment, such as the MK.23 for Raiden or the M4 SOPMOD for Old Snake. As far as I’m aware, it’s the only instance in the entirety of PO+ where you can get these weapons without cheating. It’s very convoluted, though.
Speaking of legacy characters, you could even get Teliko and Venus (MGA1 and 2, respectively) as playable characters. It’s really neat fan service to have such a cast, and I think PO+ is the only Metal Gear game to have someone from almost every MG game prior to MGS4. Bosses from PO could also be unlocked, and man. They’re all inferior to Snake in every capacity 😂. PO is the poster child of “boss is level 999 tryhard when you fight them, is level 0 when you play as them.” Like I know it was probably due to PSP limitations, but come on! How cool would it have been to play as other bosses to their full capacity?
Python: cryogenic abilities and grenade launcher with cryo grenades that freeze your equipment. When you play as him? Dinky little grenade and the freeze effect for enemies is like three seconds.
Cunningham: railgun is slow and did pitiful damage.
Elsa/Ursula: I don’t even remember, no ESP’er abilities if I recall besides headhunter
Null: Mac10 and machete combo, can easily deflect bullets from the front. When you play as him? Can’t deflect bullets, nether can Raiden or Tengu
Gene: mind jacking and extremely fast throwing knives. When you play as him? Only a marginally better version of the Spetsnaz knife that shoots 5 knives in one, but with a pause in between -.-
You definitely played just as much PO as I did because you took the words right out of my mouth regarding the unique characters. I was always a bit disappointed about the boss characters as a kid.
That was the first MGS game I've finished and I love it so much. Too bad Kojima and many other players don't give two shits about this wonderful game.
cause it sucked?
The moment when Big Boss was saying "Gene, stop" and Elisa falls and "Calling to the Night" starts to play...
god i love portable ops dawg
Played this all the time when I was a kid, got it for my birthday and played it before school.
Went back to it recently via an emulator, looks pretty good for a psp but tough getting used to 20fps. I might do a custom MGS marathon soon that leaves out a couple of games.
Everyone says the only way to recruit enemies in PO is to drag them all the way to the truck BUT if you look on your map and see a hiding spot, you can knock out like 5 dudes, drag them all to that spot, switch team members then call the codec and capture them all at once
I thought it was alright all those years back but I want to replay it.
The thing that stands out to me most in Portable Ops is that your soldiers actually have a notable gameplay function, and not only invisible spreadsheet powers. In Peace Walker and MGSV your soldiers are virtually useless on the field compared to Snake (and you can't swap them out on the field like in PO), serving mostly as score multipliers, aesthetics (female soldiers lol) and self-imposed difficulty. They simply move into the background of the management system, a system I do find addictive but also makes soldiers faceless and detaches you from the whole thing of managing an army. Peace Walker and MGSV don't get over the weird dissonance of being one-man infiltration simulators that also have you build up an army (but ultimately the army is just a more stacked radio support team?). Yet in Portable Ops you can walk around 'disguised' as a soldier, carry over bodies to boxes (yeah, the whole squad is sat in cardboard boxes, lol) and have your teammates handle the kidnapping. Some of the soldiers like boss characters have special items I think, but my memory is fuzzy.
You can actually mod your Vita pretty easily and install a plugin that implements the second analog stick into both Peace Walker and Portable Ops as well as cheats that allows both games to run at 30 fps. Although the cheats are pretty tricky to get working.
Hey my man, u mentioned getting the 30 fps cheat up and running is a little tricky, so my vita is permanently modded, just got into peace walker via Adrenaline and I heard u can activate that 30 fps cheat u mentioned within the adrenaline settings, so can you point me to like a info video or some type of thread online in order to get those cheats up and running? I do recall hearing about CWcheat and Templar which I think are both cheats databases but don’t know which is better or more accurate over the other? Thank for any information man.
i always saw Gene as the future Big boss was heading towards, he just didnt see eye to eye with Gene, hell he even wears a similar coat to big boss that he wears in mgs4, as far as scripting . keep at it, you will always continue to get better, but you need experience to get there, take alook at your own favorite videos you enjoy watching and try and break down why that is, and you will see what parts you can try incorporating into your own stuff.
If Gene had been alive during Peace Walker or MGSV he would have been working with Big Boss with how similar his ideology became by then.
Between Big Boss, Venom Snake, Gene, Kaz and Ocelot. There would have been a lot of commanders in the PMC.
Gene is like Big Boss without the main part of his beliefs. Big Boss did what he did because he cared about soldiers, while Gene had equal contempt for all humanity. If you notice during the ending, when Gene talks about his plans, Big Boss only disapproves of how he treats his soldiers, not the rest.
I love the sneaking suit in Portable Ops. Still looks like a prototype but it's very cool. You can think it's the base for the one we see in Peace Walker.
God I'd love a remake of this after Delta. Getting to see the Cutscenes in actual game engine and more importantly imagine if each sandbox like the prison, airport, hospital etc each had a map the size of Camp Omega from Ground Zeroes.
In terms of sneaking suits, my favourite is probably MGS3 or GZ. I love that PO combines both suits in a way but im not a fan of the armoured legs, I wish their was a separate armoured syit for those legs instead. I like the torso of the PO suit more than the GZ one though.
The game has less content than Peace Walker on the bright side though it has way less grinding in PO.
Disagree with Gene though, his design is sick, dude's got a trenchcoat with a sneaking suit underneath and a beret. Plus iirc i think he was another apprentice of the boss.
I recently finished this game, and while I still prefer the Console port of Peace Walker, I had a mostly fun time playing this game despite several times feeling annoyed from tedium and wanting it done and over with already. I will say it was enjoyable to see how the formula started and evolved into what’s seen in later games.
I was oddly obsessed with this game when it came out. Couldn’t agree more with you about the name Gene. I get what they were going for but it gave it a “ let’s just call him Doug” feel.
I love this game. The only thing really bad on it for me is the awkward way you used to recruit soldiers (yes, I'll exclude even the camera). Without Fulton and even when using cardboard allies, carrying soldiers was annoying as hell. But I love the story, the soundtrack, and it was a portable full fledged MGS! Bought a PSP for it. Rip Jonathan!
How does this man only have 61 subs? I'll make it 62. Hope you find the growth you deserve with great videos like this
Portable Ops was more so "Rejected" by the community instead of forgotten for nonsense reasons.
At the time, Portable Ops was highly praised as the first portable game since Ghost Babel that delivered the standard gameplay style of Metal Gear. Since Metal Gear Acid took a turn base spin although interesting for in its own right.
After Peacewalker released Portable Ops has been treated so poorly it's unjust.
Portable Ops is one of those games that gets better with multiple play throughs. When you’re on your second or third round, you don’t have to recruit (especially if you utilize the password system), and you can just focus on the sneaking.
I also prefer it to PW on the story front. Peace Walker leans a bit too heavy into Anime territory with its writing and voice direction. I get that was intentional. Kojima wanted it to appeal to the younger Japanese audience that were into portable systems, but I feel like it was a bit too late in the series for that kind of departure. PW feels like the odd one out now sandwiched between MGS4 and V (though I still very much enjoy it). Portable Ops has it’s fair share of Metal Gear silliness, but I think it’s well within the confines of the series standards prior to PW.
My biggest issue with Peace Walker besides the lack of good human bosses, is the idea that Big Boss feels betrayed by the boss when he throws his bandana in the lake.
On the whole Big Boss - Campbell thing. It's really nowhere near as bad as the Huey thing. Both men were in FOXHOUND back when, as Meryl says, heroes like Snake and her 'uncle' were in it. It's likely that Snake knew Campbell knew Big Boss and it just never needed bringing up in any of the games.
technically speaking big boss in mgs4 does mention that people can play a certain role and that could be stretched to him talking about venom, at the end of mgs5 he considers the two big boss to be as real as the original, a legend they built together
the REAL issues is shit like solidus looking like big boss and snake not ever questioning why the president of the united states looks like his mentor and guy he killed "twice" lol
I've always wondered that about Solidus too. On top of that, I'm pretty sure by the time Solidus is elected Big Boss is already a well known public figure and seen as a terrorist so it's odd that he even managed to become President in the first place, and even if it was like a rigged election or something I feel like having Solidus being such a public figure would not fly.
This was a fantastic video, really great work man keep it up!!
This game is really important to the story, it really deserves a remake more than Snake Eater
I thoroughly enjoyed this video, thank you!
I remember jailbreaking my first PSP and downloading this as my first game, to this day i remember the cutscene with the soldiers shooting each other.
Like your work, keep it up. Really enjoy this video
Love this style of vid bro keep it up
Thanks, you honestly give Bilbo Baggins vibes, don't know why but i can just sense that energy 🤗
PO was amazing😍😍 I really like it, and the atmosphere is a bit similar to MGS 1, a very good idea.
Great video. The MGS games are my favorite series of all time, but for some reason I have never played Portable Ops because I skipped PSP back in the day and I kind of brushed these games off as spin offs, but to be honest I have to give it a try!
Best metal gear game ever made hands down
My favorite sneaking suit is the diamond dogs suit on V that has the grey and black color scheme. That thing looks really good and I want one in real life.
Man... imagine Portable Ops with just a bit smoother frame rate? I mostly still play just for the soundtrack.
Dude on mgs4 online if I had the option I was always playing calling to the night I love that song
Just found the channel (via the Zombi U vid)
2 videos in I’m really enjoying what you’re doing and your style.
Off to watch more of your content now. Keep up the good work :)
Edit: just looked at other videos, I am that weirdo who hasn’t seen Stranger Things but as far as video game content goes… all I can really say is “more please”
I won hundred percent believe that the PSP did not come before. It’s time that piece Walker would’ve been named the best metal gear game out today.
MSG4:GOTP has some cut scenes of MGS:PO in the game so MGS:PO is canon.
how does bro only has 57 subs
That was a good video mate, no need to be so humble about. As far as the game is concerned, I yet still have to play it but I definitely had this on my "to play list" for a long time and your video only enforced those feelings. So thanks a bunch and keep up the good work.^^
I think portable ops is kinda slept on, most people consider it pretty much non-canon and that makes me sad. The other thing that makes me sad is that no one wants to entertain my theory that Ghost Babel is canon if the Solid Snake in that story is actually Liquid Snake doing a bit of identity theft to procure a Metal Gear in the years between MG2 and MGS 😂
As a Metal Gear fan boi, I find the discussion of Portable Ops' canon status as one of the most infuriating, non-sensical debates because Kojima Production had multiple opportunities to "de-canonize" it in Guns of the Patriots, Peace Walker, & Ground Zeroes/Phantom Pain yet they never contradict its story. Not only that, there are even story details of Portable Ops that are even corroborated in those games such as:
- The FOX Unit went rogue and then was dissolved in 1970 only to be replaced by FOXHOUND. In most closing timelines, that detail is almost always there.
- The San Heironymo Incident happened in some form or another. In Peace Walker, Kaz mentions it by name and rejoices they can leave that memory behind them.
- Colonel Volgin being hired by a "deviously cunning strategist" in the CIA to fire a Davy Crockett at OKB-745 with the plan of having The Boss killed from the start. That strategist was revealed in Peace Walker as Hot Coldman
- Ocelot tracked down & assassinated the remaining Philosophers on the orders of Zero to steal the remaining half of the legacy. Ocelot confirms this to Venom in a tape.
- Major Zero creates Cipher as a replacement organization of the Philosophers to fulfill his vision of the Boss' Will with founding members including himself, Big Boss, Para-Medic, and Sigint. EVA explains this in excruciating detail to Snake in MGS4 & these cutscenes even use clips from Portable Ops as she's explaining it.
There's actually x2 those many confirmations. I can't list them here, but one explicitly says Coldman ISN'T the strategist because Coldman was unaware of the true nature of the operation. The DCI Ocelot kills was the strategist.
Nice video 👍
Wtf this is better than most vids u underrated got a new sub
Turned out swag, despite being a white guy in his 20s. The more Metal Gear essays the better
"Metal Gear Solid: Portable Ops is a missing chapter in the story of Big Boss as he continues to descend into villainy and whatever happened in the game is part of Metal Gear Solid canon...nah, who gives a hoot about Portable Ops! Let us forget whatever happened in Portable Ops and whatever happens in Peace Walker shall be acknowledged as part of MGS lore"
-Hideo Kojima
Yes it does have the best sneaking suit.It's a great game my story with calling to the night is the same and it is the reason I was trying to find the actual game even after 4 and peace walker and when I did I loved it
1:55 lmfao wat!?!
I pressed record to late when talking and cut off the first word so i tried to add it back in through editing but i realised my mic wasn't plugged in so it sounded completely different. I thought it was kind of funny tho so i kept it.
@@christiancryers i love it hahah
PO is better than PW in my opinion, PW tecnically plays better in original hardware, but i played both on emulators, and PO with a second analog is a completely different game
Also while PW levels are larger, they are MUCH simpler, they are basically all long corridors, PO levels might be shorter, but the level design is more complex
People have a problem cause Campbell never mentions he knew Big Boss, but never even thinks about how Otacon never mentions his father helped create a massive Metal Gear
I mean it makes sense. Campbell was Big Boss's 2nd in command, and he was the only person besides Solid Snake who knew about Snake and Big Boss's connection (other than Miller which they never learned).
this awesome game
Portable Ops in itself was basically a watered down MGS3 for the PSP and it blew me away as a kid. Peace Walker even more, i like it even more than MGS:V. So many weapons, so much Maps, so much Bossfights, so much customization and micro managing of your soldiers, this game was truly great and what MGS:V should have been, instead of an open world devoit of life, with lackluster ai, a boring villain and hideous storyline, like the body double which you mentioned. Kojima really spend too much money on making the game cinematic, the story felt really lackluster.
I never had a problem with Campbell knowing big boss. If anything miller coming into the picture like, i was in san juranimo, without that additional context, makes my head hurt.
As far as your examples though, I'm not so sure it's as simple as all that. I look alot like my father did when he was my age, so it be pretty safe to assume its be the same for hal/huey. huey being a bastard though would probably be the reason why hal never knew about his fathers association with big boss, after all, he saw him more as a mean to better his metal gear tech. As far as big boss not mentioning to snake about venom....does it really matter? All snake knows is that he thought he killed big boss but he is alive. Besides, thats the entire point of him being the "phantom".
I agree that it doesn't really matter i was just approaching stuff like that in the same way a lot of PO critics do, many of whom give other mgs games the benefit of the doubt but not PO.
Apparently portable ops plus has a roguelike mode, thats kinda cool
when you aim in first person use the d pad for small movements, idk if the vita version is different
🔥great video G
okay time to watch the video in .5 speed to max out watch time
Kojima himself said Portable Ops is canon but not a main entry.
The LittleBigPlanet PSP of the series
MGS: PoOps
Sorry for double-commenting but I forgot to say: I think MPO would’ve done a lot better if it was mechanically similar to MGS2 instead of 3, or at least used a fixed camera instead of one you control.
Exactly my thoughts when it was released. The traditional MGS style is perfect for portable consoles.
@@Volt35 I’d imagine if the game did have a fixed camera, then we could play with the traditional control scheme but have the d-pad be our inventory similar to Phantom Pain, with multiple weapons/items in each direction and not just 4. Or, at least, that’s how I would’ve done it.
I recently played MGS PO last year. It's pretty good, the controls are just sort of frustrating to play with? It got to the point it kinda hurt to play on the PSP.... but the game was still fun honestly and had a pretty good story. I got into MGS last year and decided to play through the series canonically (probably against most peoples advice) but I definitely found PO enjoyable, much more than Peace walker honestly. Solid 7.5 / 10
Yeah, it's a shame it didn't get the PW treatment to of getting ported to "modern" consoles with dual analog support
@@ninjahacker2 There's a good chance we're getting it with Master Collection Volume 2. Vol. 1 has Snake's Revenge, which no one expected.
@@Volt35 It's way easier to emulate NES though.
@@cookieface80 that is true.
Was that the MGS1 genome soldier I saw?!?
Please do more mgs vids
The only thing that killed the game is gameplay. If it would be at least on mgs4 level, the game would get much more recognition and wouldn't be considered as non-canon by GenZ discord mods
I think portable ops would have been better if they went back to a fixed camera style more like mgs2.
Perhaps youd cover The Twin Snakes port on the GameCube 🐢
This game was really hard.
I love the ganeplay, hate the story (too many convenient characters pop up for me). However, this game gave us Calling to the Night, my metal gear song of all time.
I think most people are the opposite with them prefering the story to the gameplay so that's an interesting point of view i haven't heard before. Also yes Calling to The Night slaps.
@@christiancryers I just dislike how both Roy and Frank are in it like they are. It's like, isn't that a bit too convenient? The new parts of the story are great. I just have a thing about prequels where it feels to me like everything in the fictional universe has to be brought up when it doesn't really add anything and, in some cases, takes away from mystique.
@TheACcam That's understandable, doesn't bother me too much but i can see where you're coming from absolutely
Despite Peace Walker being superior in a lot of ways, Portable Ops has more replay value for me personally. I much prefer the human bossfights plus the one against RAXA vs all mechs in PW. A lot more variety and just feels more like a home console game in your hands
i've been replaying the whole series recently, including some ones i missed out on. my recent attempt at portable ops was my first playthrough. got about six hours in and i probably won't ever touch it again. it was just unfun. i spent most of my play time fighting the camera and dragging bodies around. rations and heals are rare but they barely do anything even if you find some, which is made infinitely worse when you realize that you don't get healed between missions. if snake runs out of health or stamina, you have to swap to a generic soldier who will also inevitably run out of health or stamina and just be gone forever. sure you can just play more carefully and get more troops, but it's such a slog
People question the canonicity of Big Boss and Campbell's relationship in Portable Ops? Isn't that just a prelude to how they were the original leader and second in command of Foxhound in the original Metal Gears, with Portable Ops overall acting as Foxhound's origin story as this ragtag military unit, that Big Boss had to pull together inorder to take down FOX gone rogue?
Like yeah, chronologically later games don't really touch up on what sort of relationship Campbell would have had with Big Boss, but being top officers of the same special ops unit they obviously would have known each other and I don't think Campbell needs much of an excuse for not wanting to spill all the beans of his past relationship with his old superior having gone renegade later in life.
Couple of things that personally bother me a lot more when it comes to Portable Ops' place in canon, is firstly that it's technically the first chronological appearance of a Metal Gear weapon that is addressed as such, yet that gets completely glossed over in Peace Walker, even though the Metal Gear name and weapons associated with it comes up a whole lot in it, especially during conversations between Big Boss and Huey. Secondly, it establishes how the plan to assasinate the Boss in Snake Eater, starting from Volgin launching the nuke on Soviet soil at the beginning of the game, was all an inside job planned out by a single mastermind, who is never directly named or revealed after (it was at one point implied or speculated to have potentially been Coldman from Peace Walker, but Coldman is never confronted over it, or treated in such a way as to facilitate that idea).
Isn't the Shagohod a metal gear? Just not a bipedal metal gear like Peace Walker or Zeke?
For the second point though it's a retcon. Originally Zero was supposed to be the mastermind but then mgs4 changed that. So now people just assume it's Coldman which makes sense but not addressed.
@@NobleBoss No, Shagohod's an alternative take on the same concept of a weapon capable of executing autonomous and unassisted nuclear strike, but the story makes it abundantly clear it is not a Metal Gear.
Metal Gears are all more or less based on Granin's original concept and design for a bipedal walking tank, that would function as the "missing link" between infantry and artillery and they're all designated as "Metal Gears", with arguable exception of Peace Walker, which was Metal Gear in everything but the name.
Yeah, I suppose that does make sense.
The DCI Ocelot killed was practically confirmed to be the mastermind.
@@purplesamurai5205 How ist it confirmed? I mean it would make sense, but I don't recall there being any clear connection established, that would work as confirmation.
@@jondoe7036Well Coldman was confirmed to NOT be the mastermind in Japanese PW media. Ocelot and Zero aren't likely candidates, so that leaves the DCI
Game play is mediocre at best but i really like the story and Where it is in the timeline. Anyone playing in Canon order should definitely play this after mgs3 because Peace Walker feels kind of cheap to play right after 3 with the reveal of the boss ai and everything so this game really keeps the pace going well
Honestly jumping from 3 to PW or PO to PW is a bit unsatisfying.
If you jump to PW after 3, you feel like you're missing something in between those 10 years like how did big boss become a leader.
Jumping from 3 to PO is nice and a better continuation. But then jumping to PW after PO is not as good because of the lack of references in PW to Portable Ops. I blame peace walker though so hopefully if they ever remake all the games, they tie them in better.
@JodLad I mean I get that it sucks that there's barely any reference to PO but it just makes everything flow a bit smoother
What’s the song at 3:47? I need it :(!
I believe it's a part of the Portable Ops OST, either that or Snake Eater, i can't remember the specific name though sorry
@@christiancryers found it, MGS Portable ops, song is called Match. Thanks!
is this the one that wasnt written by kojima
Yes Gakuto Mikumo whos is a sci fi novelist wrote it
@@christiancryers He wrote mgsurvive too im just finding out
hmm
I need to play portable ops. I have portable ops plus and peacewalker, but PO+ doesnt have the storymode of this game. I didnt realise that PO had a storyline worth playing but it looks like it might be worth a play.
Please do!
I love MGS Port Ops.. Mainly because it expands on Grey Fox's origins.. Before he became the iconic cyborg ninja you meet at Shadows Moses.. Seeing a young Colonel Campbell teaming up with Jack was awesome as well..
16:35 Exactly 👍.. I just except it for what It is .. And Have fun 😊..and enjoy!
I just want to point out that MG2 Solid Snake was also apart of his origins, since he also wasn't a bad ass Cyborg Ninja in that game, and that takes place between MGS PO and MGS1 if we count the former as canon.
@@Xxandrew01that aspect of MG2 is no longer canon because Big Boss went into a coma before he could meet Greg Fox. Unless it was an earlier war in Vietnam.
@@NobleBossIt probably was the earlier Indochina War. Grey Fox's age makes sense.