I've put over 500 miles on my Bandit in about 5 weeks. I love the feel of this bike. I opted for the cafe racer bars and fairing and I really dig how you can stretch out on the bike. I would love to have more info on how to upgrade the motor/batteries.
You are in a class by yourself when it comes to entertaining videos I buy things just because you OK them you’re the best there is and I love watching your videos
I did register my Bandit with California DMV and got insurance for it as well through Foremost Insurance by way of Gieco. Liability coverage only per year is 84 USD (that is of course with my experience, age, and record etc. ). Well worth it.
I would save it once a person has explored all their local areas that are open to bicycles, these expensive mopeds don’t really make sense. Something like a 150 cc class scooter is loads more practical: no range limits, no cold weather issues, no huge battery expenses. Just regular cheap and easy maintenance and a cheap ongoing costs for registration and insurance. Cost too: you can get a 150 cc class scooter and clean used condition for less than the cost of one of these with a questionable battery. I say this as a new owner of a Juiced HyperScrambler 2 and as a former motorcyclist and scooterist.
I just found out you can get a twist throttle. Which is good. I do not like thumb throttle. It causes my thimb to go numb and a callous is building up. I love the dual lights. It's like the Honda Ruckus of Ebikes.
Unfortunately neither will make a dent for the environment. Sedentary civilizations desertified the fertile crescent thousands of years before petrol. We will still be increasing the unnecessary suffering, evil, and environmental destruction after all vehicles are electric. "Progress" itself is incompatible with either human or environmental health. Disney movies will still fund genocide and the sexual slavery of children, and the spread of suburbia will continue wiping out habitat for all other species, and the industrial food production required for our bloated populations will still be unfathomablly unsustainable, dependent upon petrol for NPK synthesis, and requiring monocrops and herbicide/pesticides. You, your culture, and your values (if it includes participating in society to provide financially) are bad for the environment period. And ev won't change that one bit. You were lied to in school about a great many things. Not on purpose but because your teachers were also ignorant and lied to.
2000W but it only gets up to 35 mph? Is that bc of some kind of limiter on the controller? Don’t your Wired, Grizzly, and Citizen all get to 35+ with lesser motors?
Wish you could get these in the uk, problem is 15mph is the legal speed limit of Ebikes here, if you could settle peddle assist to 15.5mph you could probably get away with riding it, definitely my favourite looking and sounding ebike Iv seen to date.
Love my Bandit. Recently got the S3 custom.. sometimes I do wish it had more torque off the line. That’s the only thing stoping me from riding with traffic. I stick to side streets in town.
The rear fender looks off? Looks like the curve doesn't match the tire and they just put it where it would fit. Probably need to make their own customized one
got to have an emission sticker to register it. I don't think they have that. ALready seen someone try to register it and the DMV wanted the emission report.
I like that the bike is made in USA. But I don't see the "next BIG thing" part of it. There are other bikes with similar performance available. Having a VIN is cool, but I don't think many people will actually want to plate their bicycle. As a registered motor vehicle, it would no longer be usable on bike paths. What is the innovation that makes this the next big thing?
@CitizenCycle925 I agree that the registration ability is nice, even though I doubt the usefulness of it. But aren't all ebikes customizable and upgradeable? I'm pretty sure that I saw a cool guy on UA-cam with a fast dual motor old Radrover that upgrades and customizes all sorts of ebikes. The Bandit looks like a fun and fast ride. I hope you have a good time testing it out. Since it came with nice suspension, lights, and brakes, it needs less upgrades than most bikes. I appreciate the nice review of a nice bike. Great editing as usual, too. Next big thing? Agree to disagree, lol.
Ive had a bandit for over a year. Got it as an upgrade to my super 73 R. Well this year i upgraded to the Landmoto. Not an ebike but doesnt pretend to be. Just my opinion on where the ebike market is going if you want more power.@@jimmyjames8736
Thanks for your Honest review of the Cyrusher Ranger , they have recently upgraded the power with a New controller ... Do you expect to review the Ranger 2.0 .
Customizable, tough as nails, and I loved the brakes on the Bandits I've ridden. Pedal assist setup is odd, but their engineer Matt is a genius, so there may have been other limitations or directives he had to accommodate. The way I did my setup is to use a mode switch for class 2, class 3, and unlimited, then have the pedal assist control how much power you get instead of speed. Great review my friend!
Will it cargo? Gotta say, all that extra seat length is just begging to be sacrificed for a more utilitarian rear cargo shelf/container than that flat accessory shelf they have hanging off the back (hiding the rear light). Looks like I'd have to drill my own holes depending on my panniers or bungees or baskets, and there's no real apron or support on either side of the accessory shelf to keep rear bags off the wheel. Also, I like the standard battery position down low where the weight should be, but the dual battery upgrade puts the second pack up high at handlebar height, wasting the chance to use all that great space inside the frame and keep the CG low. I really like this concept, as a well-powered platform on which to do many things, but it seems like there are some overlooked opportunities. Nice bike! I hadn't been considering Spark in my search, but they're in the running now.
You could build a 3 kilowatt lithium iron phosphate battery pack for that thing with all that room, have over 100 mile range with no worry about fires or running out of electrons..
I realld don't understand why they don't use these batteries in e-bikes. It would make so much sense. Put it in your appartment, absolutely no problem.
I think the main thing that has held back LFP battery use in ebikes is the difference in energy density. Since they provide less watt hours per kg, the equivalent LFP battery is larger and heavier than lithium ion. There have been improvements in LFP energy density, and they will be available in some EV autos and trucks. Our relatively small and lightweight ebikes make packaging a bigger and heavier battery more of a problem. A fat tire bike like this does have the room and weight capacity for a 3kwh LFP setup, but it would be very heavy and look bulky. I also think that it would work out fine, though, lol. You would get extra years of usage and safer charging in exchange for some performance loss due to weight.
If it has the standard 2 amp charger like most ebikes, then it will take about 13 hours to charge 25 amp hour battery ÷ 2 amp charger = 12.5 hours to charge from empty.
I've watched a lot of your reviews with interest, but I've got to admit I have reservations about this bike. You touched on it with your comment about "heavy" steering. It seemed like there was a lot of vibration and wandering laterally in the tires/suspension when you were at top speeds even going straight ahead. Road surface really affected grip. It would be even more disconcerting to me if pavement is damp or wet. The diameter of the wheel/tire is probably too small for my comfort. Something seems off in the suspension or the tires, which results in that vibration. And I would hope the suspensions front and rear have lockouts. When you were pumping the pedals to ride without throttle or PAS, the bike suspension really dipped. I wouldn't care for that "bottoming out" feeling. I'm 6'5", 215 #, so I think it would be worse for me than it was for you. This ebike has a place for people wanting sporty usage and short trips, but for me my Aventon Aventure 2, with larger diameter tires and frame/wheelbase is better and more comfortable for the longer trips I take. Tbh, the 40+ mph seems much less safe on that smaller ebike, even with the better brakes it has than mine does with its 32 mph top speed.
I've also experienced some lateral movement at high speeds. I have the zig zag tires and cafe racer bars with the fairing. I spend a lot of time at around 38-40mph and that vibration and movement can be a sudden problem. Other than that no real problems with the bike.
I have bought ebikes with adjustable seats because I would like to move my legs a little. I can't stand when my knees are in my chest. My knees get worse every day and these moped type bikes just don't make sense to me. I live in an area where there are steep hills. I would need like 40ah battery to do all throttle all the time. My weight isn't friendly to any ebike.
Hey Brian looks like an awesome bike but I was surprised with such a big chainring in the front but still what looked to be a 14-28 freewheel. 11-28 would’ve been better for the higher speeds but I agree most people buying this bike wouldn’t pedal anyway. Also Pas levels definitely need more refining to make it better for a larger audience, I love when you can set the levels up yourself.
yes, i think the PAS system needs adjusting but i didnt use much at all anyway. I think they have a good idea with the VIN in case regulations get tighter..
It’s usually just a plug to disconnect if somebody wants to disable the PAS. I did this on my cadence PAS e-bikes. If I want pedal assist, I’ll just turn the throttle while I’m pedaling. This allows for more exercise if PAS isn’t torque controlled.
It lost me at thumb throttle. My Ebike that I have has one. I find it causes my thumb to feel numb and strained. I like what I have but the next one will have a normal throttle.
@matt7156 Zigzag steering feel is similar to Speedster. Zigzag has thicker rubber at road that gives a little extra ride cushion, and they weigh more than Speedsters. Both are very quiet, but Zigzag is most silent. The Vee Huntsmans have relatively slow and predictable steering, and they don't try to follow cracks or paint lines. They also weigh a ton and make more noise.
@@jimmyjames8736 I put so many miles on my zig zags, they barely wear. Ran over a broken beer bottle even on the road no issues. They do seem heavy though.
Looks cool but those moped style bike aren't for me unless I wanted to just throttle only. I still enjoy getting a bit of exercise by pedaling. Being 6ft tall peddling would be too uncomfortable with a fixed seat that low.
That's why they have a tall seat for taller riders. And it's about the only bike with a huge front sprocket so you can peddle at 25 mph plus and not ghost peddle. I'm 6 ft and it's a awesome bike to peddle.
I had a pair of the Vee Bulldozers, waste of money, ended up throwing them away, 26* 4.2, good on dirt, but the second you hit the pavement, felt like you were towing a trailer there was so much drag.
That's funny about registering. Ya no one will register them. In CT dude I went to register my 200cc scooter and DMV looked at me like I had ten heads and said why. There's more but I won't go into it. Nice ebike 👍🏼
Moped/motorcycle style e-bikes being ridden on “no motorized vehicles allowed” bike paths and trails is getting all e-bikes cracked down on big time and kicked to the street only. They are cool but are ruining it for bike looking e-bikes. As are the 14 year olds ripping around the city at 60mph with little idea how to safely operate something at those speeds in public…
E- mopeds are cool but wouldn't work for me ...young flexible and short legged folks will be the most comfortable... everyone has different needs... I ride a 26x4 fat tire with dual direct drive motors 1500/1000w...I am 6'2". 260# 66 years old 👴🏻😄.
Respect bro! It is absolutely where the eBike movement will go. I cant help been a little nervous about how quickly the tech is evolving. It is WAY ahead of the regulatory component. Which in the UK means, we are stuck in the jurassic period! No throttle, limited to 250w (peak motor) and top speed of 15mph! Its a joke! IF you choose to stay street legal. Thank you again for sharing the next gen & showing some of capabilities.
Too bad about limited PAS levels. This is one of the few "mopeds" that could be converted to backrest recumbent with tilted back handlebars. 60T chainring should be standard on every class 3 bike. Long seat does allow for tall people pedaling, but good shoes and "low leg extension" allows spinning faster than tall position even though much less torque can be applied. The only downside to 60t chainrings is that its not easy to have those ring chainguards with it. The PAS programming is aweful even for customers like yourself (lazy American, sorry). You still need a 10mph max setting. Beginners especially.
Can you tell me the stand over height on the Fabulous Havoc X2? Not the minimum seat height but the stand over height. When you review the step through will you note the differences, especially in suspension?
It good bike ...But i not keen on the style ...i like cafe ebikes ...i have one ...just the bandit is kind of ugly .....but decent chain ring and wicked rear suspension ....so i would say it good bike
I will be happy if they are actually calling this an electric moped. You spoke about regulations that are coming. They’re coming quicker than most think and they were going to blanket All E bikes. California is pushing to pass a bill that anyone riding any ebike has to have a state issued “ license” to do so. Even kids 12 years old. And under 12, no E bike for you. When you get these things going over 30 miles an hour, you’re begging for that to happen. I just hate to see them throw that blanket over everything. I can see now, dark glasses on smoky bear standing on the Greenway. Clocked you back there at 28 1/2 miles an hour on the bike path, Yes I did. Let’s see your license and registration.
@@blackphilipalvarez1305 you are exactly right. The problem comes in when you start getting these bikes there, fast enough to be on the street, governments going to step in and start regulating them. They will throw the blanket over every E bike out there. They are already pushing this in California with AB 530 that if passed, will require even a 12 year old to get a state issued license to ride an E bike that they will have to take a test for. I would say the last thing we need is more government. That’s my only problem with it. But otherwise, I still really like the bike.
here in California Bill 530 is introduced. To legally ride an E-bike,You’ll need a state issued ID or Driver’s license & Kids 12yrs & younger will have to take an Online class through DMV. I’m guessing Insured & Registered is the next step! What if a kid is caught riding without this requirement? It was discussed they will receive a citation & possible criminal activity 🤬 California’s is such a money grab pit!
No parking, registration, gas, insurance and the fun for the right type. Given a small enough town/ dense city. I agree with you in any suburb though, those are yuck.
I've put over 500 miles on my Bandit in about 5 weeks. I love the feel of this bike. I opted for the cafe racer bars and fairing and I really dig how you can stretch out on the bike. I would love to have more info on how to upgrade the motor/batteries.
Great vid though.
You are in a class by yourself when it comes to entertaining videos I buy things just because you OK them you’re the best there is and I love watching your videos
I did register my Bandit with California DMV and got insurance for it as well through Foremost Insurance by way of Gieco. Liability coverage only per year is 84 USD (that is of course with my experience, age, and record etc. ). Well worth it.
piece of mind :)
I would save it once a person has explored all their local areas that are open to bicycles, these expensive mopeds don’t really make sense. Something like a 150 cc class scooter is loads more practical: no range limits, no cold weather issues, no huge battery expenses. Just regular cheap and easy maintenance and a cheap ongoing costs for registration and insurance.
Cost too: you can get a 150 cc class scooter and clean used condition for less than the cost of one of these with a questionable battery.
I say this as a new owner of a Juiced HyperScrambler 2 and as a former motorcyclist and scooterist.
I just found out you can get a twist throttle. Which is good. I do not like thumb throttle. It causes my thimb to go numb and a callous is building up.
I love the dual lights. It's like the Honda Ruckus of Ebikes.
Ebikes will have a bigger impact than Electric cars.
Unfortunately neither will make a dent for the environment. Sedentary civilizations desertified the fertile crescent thousands of years before petrol. We will still be increasing the unnecessary suffering, evil, and environmental destruction after all vehicles are electric. "Progress" itself is incompatible with either human or environmental health. Disney movies will still fund genocide and the sexual slavery of children, and the spread of suburbia will continue wiping out habitat for all other species, and the industrial food production required for our bloated populations will still be unfathomablly unsustainable, dependent upon petrol for NPK synthesis, and requiring monocrops and herbicide/pesticides. You, your culture, and your values (if it includes participating in society to provide financially) are bad for the environment period. And ev won't change that one bit. You were lied to in school about a great many things. Not on purpose but because your teachers were also ignorant and lied to.
2000W but it only gets up to 35 mph? Is that bc of some kind of limiter on the controller? Don’t your Wired, Grizzly, and Citizen all get to 35+ with lesser motors?
Very Nice bike. I love the uphill power. Living in a very hilly area that's probably the most important thing here.
Heck yeah. I would happily register and plate my ebike..saddlebags / storage would make this a nice grocery runner :)
Wish you could get these in the uk, problem is 15mph is the legal speed limit of Ebikes here, if you could settle peddle assist to 15.5mph you could probably get away with riding it, definitely my favourite looking and sounding ebike Iv seen to date.
Overpriced
Love my Bandit. Recently got the S3 custom.. sometimes I do wish it had more torque off the line. That’s the only thing stoping me from riding with traffic. I stick to side streets in town.
Sell it while it’s still worth something and get one of the new Kawasakis.
The rear fender looks off? Looks like the curve doesn't match the tire and they just put it where it would fit. Probably need to make their own customized one
60T chainring? Holy moly, that thing will be a monster a high speeds.
Spark CycleWorks is a great company. Their facility is not far from where I live. Is this your Bandit or a loaner bike?
I'm 6'5" and 300 lbs. How fast and far do you think I could get on this in your opinion?
got to have an emission sticker to register it. I don't think they have that. ALready seen someone try to register it and the DMV wanted the emission report.
I like that the bike is made in USA. But I don't see the "next BIG thing" part of it. There are other bikes with similar performance available. Having a VIN is cool, but I don't think many people will actually want to plate their bicycle. As a registered motor vehicle, it would no longer be usable on bike paths. What is the innovation that makes this the next big thing?
I feel that because it is customizable, upgradable, and registerable. It will outlive high-powered electric bicycles.
@CitizenCycle925 I agree that the registration ability is nice, even though I doubt the usefulness of it. But aren't all ebikes customizable and upgradeable? I'm pretty sure that I saw a cool guy on UA-cam with a fast dual motor old Radrover that upgrades and customizes all sorts of ebikes.
The Bandit looks like a fun and fast ride. I hope you have a good time testing it out. Since it came with nice suspension, lights, and brakes, it needs less upgrades than most bikes. I appreciate the nice review of a nice bike. Great editing as usual, too. Next big thing? Agree to disagree, lol.
Ive had a bandit for over a year. Got it as an upgrade to my super 73 R. Well this year i upgraded to the Landmoto. Not an ebike but doesnt pretend to be. Just my opinion on where the ebike market is going if you want more power.@@jimmyjames8736
Thanks for your Honest review of the Cyrusher Ranger , they have recently upgraded the power with a New controller ... Do you expect to review the Ranger 2.0 .
no plans to review it at this time sorry
Have you finished unpacking the Fabulous pallet? Curious. :-)
Only unpacked 2 so far, the route66 and tge Havoc X2.
It’s the geometry of the bike that makes it weird to turn. The head tube angle is too vertical.
Customizable, tough as nails, and I loved the brakes on the Bandits I've ridden. Pedal assist setup is odd, but their engineer Matt is a genius, so there may have been other limitations or directives he had to accommodate. The way I did my setup is to use a mode switch for class 2, class 3, and unlimited, then have the pedal assist control how much power you get instead of speed. Great review my friend!
your switch idea is interesting, have not seen that. this frame does seem pretty tough too.
Will it cargo? Gotta say, all that extra seat length is just begging to be sacrificed for a more utilitarian rear cargo shelf/container than that flat accessory shelf they have hanging off the back (hiding the rear light). Looks like I'd have to drill my own holes depending on my panniers or bungees or baskets, and there's no real apron or support on either side of the accessory shelf to keep rear bags off the wheel. Also, I like the standard battery position down low where the weight should be, but the dual battery upgrade puts the second pack up high at handlebar height, wasting the chance to use all that great space inside the frame and keep the CG low. I really like this concept, as a well-powered platform on which to do many things, but it seems like there are some overlooked opportunities. Nice bike! I hadn't been considering Spark in my search, but they're in the running now.
they do sell a rear rack for it and you could surely shorten the seat for more space.
You could build a 3 kilowatt lithium iron phosphate battery pack for that thing with all that room, have over 100 mile range with no worry about fires or running out of electrons..
I realld don't understand why they don't use these batteries in e-bikes. It would make so much sense. Put it in your appartment, absolutely no problem.
I think the main thing that has held back LFP battery use in ebikes is the difference in energy density. Since they provide less watt hours per kg, the equivalent LFP battery is larger and heavier than lithium ion. There have been improvements in LFP energy density, and they will be available in some EV autos and trucks. Our relatively small and lightweight ebikes make packaging a bigger and heavier battery more of a problem. A fat tire bike like this does have the room and weight capacity for a 3kwh LFP setup, but it would be very heavy and look bulky. I also think that it would work out fine, though, lol. You would get extra years of usage and safer charging in exchange for some performance loss due to weight.
@@jimmyjames8736 I've been using them for sometime now..The weight/space is a good trade off for 5 times the charge cycles..
Yas, love my Bandit ;-) One of my favorite bikes to ride at night.
How long to recharge?
If it has the standard 2 amp charger like most ebikes, then it will take about 13 hours to charge 25 amp hour battery ÷ 2 amp charger = 12.5 hours to charge from empty.
Seems expensive in a saturated segment of the market. Also, the performance is a bit of a yawn, particularly at 3k+.
Price seems about right for what it offers wtf
I've watched a lot of your reviews with interest, but I've got to admit I have reservations about this bike. You touched on it with your comment about "heavy" steering.
It seemed like there was a lot of vibration and wandering laterally in the tires/suspension when you were at top speeds even going straight ahead. Road surface really affected grip. It would be even more disconcerting to me if pavement is damp or wet. The diameter of the wheel/tire is probably too small for my comfort. Something seems off in the suspension or the tires, which results in that vibration.
And I would hope the suspensions front and rear have lockouts. When you were pumping the pedals to ride without throttle or PAS, the bike suspension really dipped. I wouldn't care for that "bottoming out" feeling. I'm 6'5", 215 #, so I think it would be worse for me than it was for you. This ebike has a place for people wanting sporty usage and short trips, but for me my Aventon Aventure 2, with larger diameter tires and frame/wheelbase is better and more comfortable for the longer trips I take. Tbh, the 40+ mph seems much less safe on that smaller ebike, even with the better brakes it has than mine does with its 32 mph top speed.
I've also experienced some lateral movement at high speeds. I have the zig zag tires and cafe racer bars with the fairing. I spend a lot of time at around 38-40mph and that vibration and movement can be a sudden problem. Other than that no real problems with the bike.
I have bought ebikes with adjustable seats because I would like to move my legs a little. I can't stand when my knees are in my chest. My knees get worse every day and these moped type bikes just don't make sense to me. I live in an area where there are steep hills. I would need like 40ah battery to do all throttle all the time. My weight isn't friendly to any ebike.
Hey Brian looks like an awesome bike but I was surprised with such a big chainring in the front but still what looked to be a 14-28 freewheel. 11-28 would’ve been better for the higher speeds but I agree most people buying this bike wouldn’t pedal anyway.
Also Pas levels definitely need more refining to make it better for a larger audience, I love when you can set the levels up yourself.
yes, i think the PAS system needs adjusting but i didnt use much at all anyway. I think they have a good idea with the VIN in case regulations get tighter..
Did you mention the wheelbase?
dont think i did but it looks to be about 49in from axle to axle
It’s usually just a plug to disconnect if somebody wants to disable the PAS. I did this on my cadence PAS e-bikes. If I want pedal assist, I’ll just turn the throttle while I’m pedaling. This allows for more exercise if PAS isn’t torque controlled.
It lost me at thumb throttle. My Ebike that I have has one. I find it causes my thumb to feel numb and strained. I like what I have but the next one will have a normal throttle.
Interesting bike. And yes those tires have bad self steer.
Do you think the Vee zigzags are better?
@@matt7156 my 26x4 zig zags are awesome but yeah they get self steer if not at the max psi. Idk about on a 20x4 bike.
@matt7156 Zigzag steering feel is similar to Speedster. Zigzag has thicker rubber at road that gives a little extra ride cushion, and they weigh more than Speedsters. Both are very quiet, but Zigzag is most silent. The Vee Huntsmans have relatively slow and predictable steering, and they don't try to follow cracks or paint lines. They also weigh a ton and make more noise.
@@jimmyjames8736 I put so many miles on my zig zags, they barely wear. Ran over a broken beer bottle even on the road no issues. They do seem heavy though.
That is one little beast!
Looks cool but those moped style bike aren't for me unless I wanted to just throttle only. I still enjoy getting a bit of exercise by pedaling. Being 6ft tall peddling would be too uncomfortable with a fixed seat that low.
That's why they have a tall seat for taller riders. And it's about the only bike with a huge front sprocket so you can peddle at 25 mph plus and not ghost peddle. I'm 6 ft and it's a awesome bike to peddle.
agree, im getting a e-mountain bike with torque assist, its a bike. i want to exercise :P
Would that E-Bike be great for a 7foot0 Man?
Does made in the usa mean anything if all the parts still come from asia..
I had a pair of the Vee Bulldozers, waste of money, ended up throwing them away, 26* 4.2, good on dirt, but the second you hit the pavement, felt like you were towing a trailer there was so much drag.
Looks like a mini bike with the 5 hp motor replaced by a battery.
That's funny about registering. Ya no one will register them. In CT dude I went to register my 200cc scooter and DMV looked at me like I had ten heads and said why.
There's more but I won't go into it.
Nice ebike 👍🏼
Moped/motorcycle style e-bikes being ridden on “no motorized vehicles allowed” bike paths and trails is getting all e-bikes cracked down on big time and kicked to the street only. They are cool but are ruining it for bike looking e-bikes. As are the 14 year olds ripping around the city at 60mph with little idea how to safely operate something at those speeds in public…
Strange looking position of the rear fender
E- mopeds are cool but wouldn't work for me ...young flexible and short legged folks will be the most comfortable... everyone has different needs... I ride a 26x4 fat tire with dual direct drive motors 1500/1000w...I am 6'2". 260# 66 years old 👴🏻😄.
Dual batteries, dual motors?
For me, income is so high the price 😢
Respect bro! It is absolutely where the eBike movement will go.
I cant help been a little nervous about how quickly the tech is evolving. It is WAY ahead of the regulatory component. Which in the UK means, we are stuck in the jurassic period!
No throttle, limited to 250w (peak motor) and top speed of 15mph! Its a joke! IF you choose to stay street legal. Thank you again for sharing the next gen & showing some of capabilities.
yes, unfortunately i think regulations will be ruining the fun in the next few years.
I thought the vin number was any bikes serially number ? Cool little ride
Too bad about limited PAS levels. This is one of the few "mopeds" that could be converted to backrest recumbent with tilted back handlebars. 60T chainring should be standard on every class 3 bike. Long seat does allow for tall people pedaling, but good shoes and "low leg extension" allows spinning faster than tall position even though much less torque can be applied. The only downside to 60t chainrings is that its not easy to have those ring chainguards with it.
The PAS programming is aweful even for customers like yourself (lazy American, sorry). You still need a 10mph max setting. Beginners especially.
Can you tell me the stand over height on the Fabulous Havoc X2? Not the minimum seat height but the stand over height. When you review the step through will you note the differences, especially in suspension?
Love your videos so bad!
It good bike ...But i not keen on the style ...i like cafe ebikes ...i have one ...just the bandit is kind of ugly .....but decent chain ring and wicked rear suspension ....so i would say it good bike
Unless… get a real e bike and have fun.
I will be happy if they are actually calling this an electric moped. You spoke about regulations that are coming. They’re coming quicker than most think and they were going to blanket All E bikes. California is pushing to pass a bill that anyone riding any ebike has to have a state issued “ license” to do so. Even kids 12 years old. And under 12, no E bike for you. When you get these things going over 30 miles an hour, you’re begging for that to happen. I just hate to see them throw that blanket over everything. I can see now, dark glasses on smoky bear standing on the Greenway. Clocked you back there at 28 1/2 miles an hour on the bike path, Yes I did. Let’s see your license and registration.
Is this the Bandit that has been sent around to UA-camrs or a new Build-A-Bandit?
What is the range on throttle only?
This is the number you want. Without an adjustable seat you will not want to pedal this, or be ready for knee pain.
BTW, I think the bike looks pretty cool. Just don’t like to see it called a bike. Lol my reasons are above.
If it has pedals then it’s still a bike right?
@@blackphilipalvarez1305 you are exactly right. The problem comes in when you start getting these bikes there, fast enough to be on the street, governments going to step in and start regulating them. They will throw the blanket over every E bike out there. They are already pushing this in California with AB 530 that if passed, will require even a 12 year old to get a state issued license to ride an E bike that they will have to take a test for. I would say the last thing we need is more government. That’s my only problem with it. But otherwise, I still really like the bike.
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That bike is kinda ugly imo.
here in California Bill 530 is introduced. To legally ride an E-bike,You’ll need a state issued ID or Driver’s license & Kids 12yrs & younger will have to take an Online class through DMV. I’m guessing Insured & Registered is the next step! What if a kid is caught riding without this requirement? It was discussed they will receive a citation & possible criminal activity 🤬 California’s is such a money grab pit!
The Bandit isn't worth the money for me. I also don't like the look of the bike. That's just me tho..
Everyone has their preferences, i can see this look being polarizing.
Looks homemade...
cool commercial. pass
thanks for viewing though
Lol 😂 2k usd could easily buy you a comfortable dependable reliable car. This price is a joke especially safety on this are 0 that's zilch.
No parking, registration, gas, insurance and the fun for the right type. Given a small enough town/ dense city. I agree with you in any suburb though, those are yuck.