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@@Gatitasecsii How are his complaints stupid? It was very informative and all of the the annoying things he pointed out are minor but numerous, and that volume definitely add up. Also his complaints are constructive...unlike yours.
Some people who played this game will agree with him and some wont. U should not call a person stupid because of his opinion. How about showing some proofs and logic to demonstrate the reason why this game is truly good and his opinion is wrong? He already mentioned that the game is not worth a buy at the moment, displays the proofs and wants the devs to refine this game furthermore in the future.
@@Gatitasecsii already did and what you say make no sence. You refuse to explain why you think skill up review was stupid because you have nothing worth to say.
"Wolves hunt in packs Arisen." Dragon's Dogma Dark Arisen gang reporting in, with my super helpful loli-pawn informing me for the fifty billionth time that wolves, those animals so well known for hunting in packs that "a wolf pack" is a thing in submarine combat, do in fact hunt in packs.
The Witcher One wasn't a particularly well made game either but supporting the small studio (at the time) CD Projekt Red eventually allowed them to create one of the greatest rpg's ever made. Personally I'm choosing to support these dev's in the hope that giving them access to a larger budget and more resources will afford them the opportunity to build on what they've created here in future games.
@@ChocolateEffigy I would politely disagree, the story was quite good but also had the benefit of a series of novels to help flesh out the game world, in terms of gameplay the original Witcher game has some of the worst controls and combat I've ever seen in an RPG, it's ui and levelling system was also a needlessly complicated mess. I still thoroughly enjoyed the game in spite of these shortcomings and I agree it was definitely overshadowed by its sequels but that was kind of my point, without people supporting the clearly inferior first game we would never have gotten those superior sequels.
I enjoyed witcher 3 but the combat was MUNDANELY boring. It was completely basic. I actually bought Witcher when it first came out. After playing the intro area, I uninstalled the game just purely based on how basic the combat was. Looking at this game, the combat, even with his complaints, seems 10x better than DA or W3. Witcher 3 storyline isn't the best I've ever seen either, and Geralts flat voice can get a bit grating at times, even though he had character. It sounds like I'm complaining about Witcher but I'm not, it's still a good game. But I can't understand why it gets passes for absolutely atrocious combat and hailed as one of the best games ever made, yet reviewers jump on this. I've yet to play it, but the only thing I can take away from this review is that the character development and world settings sucked in this game. Fair enough. But so long as people sing high heavens about Witcher despite its flaws, I'll take a chance on this game as my next single player experience.
The first Witcher is a good comparison to this game. However, I think CDPR got funding from the Polish government to help produce the sequels, which helped the quality, plus the books as source material. Greedfall has promise though, so hopefully they can improve on that.
Dead Wolf was that referring to halo 5 ? Because u are absolutely right. U fight that same boss. The new halo better have different bosses. Why can’t they follow gears of war, atleast they have boss variety. I could think of plenty of different boss types for halo that would make it a stellar story campaign.
@@mr.froglegs It’s not God tier. Despite it being a god awful performance disaster, the writing is really no better than the top-tier of game’s writing today (The Last of Us, Spider-Man, The Outer Worlds, Ghost of Tsushima, etc.). Meanwhile, the gameplay is certainly worse than the top of its genre. First person shooters are better executed in COD, Battlefield, and even some Indie games. And the stealth mechanics are even worse than Assassin’s Creed’s. The whole may be greater than the sum of its parts, especially absent glitches and bugs. BUT the game is not god-tier. It’s a good to pretty good game. At best. It certainly isn’t Witcher 3.
@@TheDarman I agree on everything you said, but the game is simply not finished. In 12 months the game will be different. If no mans sky can redeem itself so can cyberpunk. You dont really think that the games current state is how the devs intended it? (people keep saying how great the witcher is but i doubt that most of these people played it on release as it was far from the state it is now. But it wasnt a mess like cyberpunk on release.)
I think it's that the devs had the right idea, setting the game world in the 17 Century and mixing in realism with fantasy elements. However, it appears the problems are with the core gameplay, as well as characterisation. Fix those issues and what you have is a fantastic RPG game set in an exciting period. I reckon if the devs focused on making this a more linear game/story, it would've been more contained and overall better experience. I think that's why he hopes for a sequel.
Well they can't make a sequel unless it sells well. So in hopes of Spiders getting even better in the future,I will buy their game. Even if it has its problems,ill still enjoy it,and through buying it support a hopefully great future developer.
I bought Vampyr and enjoyed it despite its flaws, and I will buy this game and probably enjoy it, despite its flaws. Even if these developers don't make incredibly enthralling experiences, they still deserve a chance.
Same, wouldve never touched Vampyr if it wasnt for ACG's reviews and i loved it. He gave this game a pass and its not a full priced game, not losing much with picking it up.
@@johngun7418 did a pacifist run and a everyone must die run. vampyr is just good. it introduced something new to the vampire genre. also played remember me from the same devs and enjoyed that. both had flaws but were still enjoyable. this one though. im not a fan of padding and broken quests. will definitely wait for patches and a sale.
Even the opening of the video too. Most reviewers say “is it any good? Let’s find out!” as if they don’t know what verdict they are going to share (and as if I can’t just skip to the end if I want to), whereas SkillUp just comes right out the gate with the verdict and then the following half hour is spent justifying it in-depth, and I respect that so much more honestly.
Coming back to the review after just finishing the game (got it on sale over the holidays). While firmly a AA title, the game really left a lasting impression with how intertwined the side quests, faction loyalty, and party members can affect the main quest. I'll definitely replay it when the PS5 update is available and try some other quest options.
I just tried it with the PS5 update and the loading times/60fps are great, but unfortunately I was a little let down by the game part. Ten hours in and it’s like I’ve faced the same set of three different kinds of enemy every time, randomly placed around. The story and quests are definitely the highlights.
This game is fucking horrible. Easily the most shallow RPG I've ever played. Every game mechanic is bare bones. I really wanted to enjoy this too. I forced myself to play about 10 hours. I deleted and redownloaded 3 different times. I don't care if it's AA, there's no excuses for this trash. The people who like it are just saying so because they think shitting on AAA games and stanning indie games makes them look cool
@@game_boyd1644 ya or maybe just everything I said lol what's your point? The game had so much potential but they ruined it with stupid things they could've fixed if they had more money. Like why is every indoor area just a copy of another one? People only stan this game because it's not AAA. Sorry but that doesn't make you cool or any more of a gamer than anyone else. I judge games based on themselves, not who made them of what went into them.
The game might not be as good as we hoped(maybe our expectations were too high as usual ) but I will still buy it and support the developers. I enjoyed their games so far (mars war log, bound by flame and technomancer) as very flawed but entertaining games made with heart and passion. I'm glad they continued to make games like this and they seriously improved over the years.
@@nathanscott2871 Yes, this review is quite odd. While I understand some of his points, I think the "scoring" (good, bad, etc) isn't in line with the product. It just sounds like sour grapes because Greedfall isn't quite the height of Bioware's height. It's interesting that he thinks the story is mediocre when the quests are quite complex.
This game is exactly like I thought it would be : disappointing like Technomancer. A small studio trying to compete with AAA. It's enough for some people, especially those who like RPGs like Risen or Gothic.
Just started Greedfall last night because of PS+, an hour in, the set up is great imo but I actually said out loud "wow, this game has a serious issue with facial animations, like Andromeda and Horizon Zero Dawn level of issues" lmao
@@kagenotatsumaki Horizon Zero Dawn had some “dead eye” issues from what I remember but characters still looked good. GreedFall’s issues are much worse. Lip syncing is really bad and every character looks like they have dentures. It’s weird. A good game so far though but rough.
I hope the devs see this, take it to heart, and refine refine refine. I'd _LOVE_ an RPG set in what looks like the mid-late 17th century. If it also has piracy elements then I will _mail_ the devs my pants!
Imagine with actual producers who fund them what they can do. They could be the next Bioware. Remember how CD Projekt went from the first Witcher to the 3rd. From janky broken mess to one of the greatest games of all time.
the comment in the thumbnail is the main problem with most modern games. I'd much prefer a game that's all killer, no filler even if it only lasts 10 hours or less. I'm much more inclined to play shorter games that are beast mode from start to finish than I am one that's got a bunch of busywork to pad the playtime out.
Mostly agree as some games it works like DOOM 2016 but others it doesn't like The Order 1886, however both are better than 95% of what Ubisoft makes...
I liked the first Two Worlds as well. Second Two Worlds wasn't exactly bad either in my opinion, just not as good as the first one :) I can definitelly live with repeating voice lines and easy combat, might grab the game some time later, when it starts getting discounted.
Its really obviously not because to talk properly your lips have to form all sorts of shapes and close together. You can watch an NPC talk without their lips even touching
Life is strange was another french game with some terrible lip sync, especially painful in the last few chapters. I was really worried when I saw the camera angles away from mouth movement amd the few instances where we got to see them were terrible. And I dont feel it is a French thing BTW it is a development thing.
That does it. This review finally proves what I've suspected all along... Our tastes in games differ almost completely. That said, I'll continue to follow you because I enjoy your content and I think you're a very talented games journalist. Sorry you didn't enjoy the game, hope there's a sequel and it fixes enough of your gripes!
@@johnjones8026 my experience is the combat is atrocious. It’s not fun. But that’s the same with Skyrim, it’s passable schlock so you can get the story. The story is fun, and seems interesting. Haven’t completed the game yet so we’ll see. Before I expand in combat I’d like to preface by saying I’m not gamer expert. I can barely complete Divinity 2 on normal difficulty, XCOM I can’t even complete on easy, I’ve completed soulsborne (except Demons and Dark souls Remastered). My problem with the combat is that (I play on hard, can be different for other difficulties) that I’m incentivized to play like a little bitch. I get knocked over all the time so using anything other than magic attacks, traps and guns is just impossible. I know I can upgrade my armor to not topple as easily but why would I waste a ton of resources and skill points when I can jump around with magic attacks and be even more efficient? I’m incentivized to not be first in. And the parry system is horrible. There is no block, only a parry. I’m not against this at all. Bloodborne did parry system really well. But here it’s really bad. You either chain parry like 4 mobs in a row or you’re knocked down and there’s no way to guarantee you do parry when you’re attacked by mobs. I feel like the combat overall is a poor execution of Dragon Age: Inquisition. The multi choice narrative is kinda cool but it misses. On one hand you get skills to unlock different paths but the problem is that this is kinda inconsistent. You have two ways of changing dialogue (percentage check or observation level check) but these are seldom applied at the same time so one feels like kind of a waste until you really want it. The sneak aspect is a massive failure considering you can just pick up armor and then skip the entire sneaking. The crafting aspect is cut off by every merchant sells the thing you need. It’s kinda cool that you can blow up weak walls but why would you when you can just wear the right type of armor and you can skip the entire thing. This leads to the skill tree. Jesus I hate that skill tree. For combat it doesn’t do much except “deal more damage” and “use less mana” or “stun some enemies”. The dialogue that are super important but you get so few points you kinda resign to accepting you have to bribe every NPC at some point. The voice acting is horrible. Like at some point it’s laughably bad. Your first sidekick has a mission and the VA just phones the entire thing in. Don’t go into this game expecting Uncharted 4 levels, or even Nier: Automata. The travel system is pretty good. I like that you have a camp between worlds where you can modify your team. You can also talk with your allies in that camp and yeah. Well done all around. Visuals are pretty passable up until now. Nothing that made me go “oh shit. This is as pretty as FF7RE”. They get the job done and some of the more difficult monsters look awesome tho. I’ve experienced a lot of bugs on PS4. A couple gamebreaking, my first crash today and loads of texture issues. I’d recommend saving often, never put the game on rest mode and always save before fights and important conversations. All in all this is at the bottom of games you should play. Like if you have anything good you want to play then I’d play that game instead. But if you if you want to scratch the Kingdom Come: Deliverance itch it’s a nice game. If you feel the need for some Victorian era fantasy Bloodborne is way better. RPG I’d play divinity 2 instead.
So many different opinions on this one! ACG said the game was well worth a buy and really enjoyed it. Meanwhile the Escapist magazine hated it like the plague and wanted nothing to do with it. I have a strong feeling that this is going to be a very divisive game, with some people loving it and some people hating it. Seeing as I have disagreed with your views in the past (Days Gone especially), I think I'm gonna go with ACG on this one and give it a shot anyways. Still really appreciate the video though!
I knew this game looked too good to be true. Which is a shame. However that leaves more time for Remnant: from the ashes. By the way, when is Sekiros review?
Twisted Films Agree with your comment completely days gone was amazing and ACG has rated greedfall high, you have to remember this is a small studio as well.
I watched this review when it came out and decided that I might some day try Greedfall. And I did buy it on a PSN sale, but several months still passed by. But I've now played 24 hours of this game and I LOVE it.
To be fair you aren't the intended audience for this review. It's for people undecided. Where as you are a day 1 purchaser. And were already completely sold on the premise before this review.
I came here for confirmation bias. You didn't deliver. I will now criticize your ability to review, recommend someone else, promptly dislike the video and purchase this game just to spite you. Just kidding mate, thanks for being honest. Keep up the good work!
Sometimes, things that gripes on a reviewer doesn't grind another person's gears. Like the length of a game for example. Sometimes even, a negative for a reviewer is a positive for a viewer and vice versa. Confirmation bias, I'd say is a valid way for us viewers to analyse a review. But it is best when you watch several different reviews to get all the perspectives and see which one personally aligns with your own interests. Hence why I don't bother with the numbers in all reviews. So don't get all hissy when people comment their own opinions to agree with or counter the reviewer's.
@@DevenThaDude-xb2tm Would you kind lad, go and watch that said video and not read about it, i just did watch and he said "wait for sale" clearly. : ) . go to video and hit 16:50. it was my pleasure - Extra read p.s we need to understand that both our favorite youtubers take different approach and as far as i am aware specially with newer reviews acg gives his total reasoning for the said "rating" you even have prons and cons after 20min long video of him going in depth as to say "shotgun sounds" and you need to remember that in the end of the day acg strongest grade is "fun factor" to finish this Ted talk, reviews are never to be trusted blindly, that`s why i watch both Acg, Ranton and Skill (not to mention upper echelon gaming and legacykillahd). *You can never have enough of information*
Spider has gotten better and better with each release. I need my Bioware fix and, as Bioware has forgotten why people used to buy their games, Spider is stepping up and trying to fill the void they left. While Spider continues to evolve, I will support that journey. This isn't magnanimity-- I'm investing in them for greater and greater entertainment returns with the understanding that "Rome wasn't built in a day." Bound by Flame, I barely remember, but I liked Technomancer- played it to the end and enjoyed it. If Greedfall is better than that, then Spider is heading in the right direction and I'm happy to support them. I will be purchasing 2 copies of Greedfall (1 as a gift). Don't get me wrong, however, as I still appreciate Skill Up's frank analysis.
ChandlerUSMC I felt the same way with Technomancer. Really cool ideas from this studio that I keep wanting to see more of. It’s on my list of Christmas presents I’d like for me (budgeting time and money is a thing) but not all games are created equal and heart matters as much as flash and polish.
i dunno, i felt technomancer pretty mediocre, and in many ways, its more of the same level of bad as bound by flame. this one is clearly the best they have ever done. but its still not good enough. lets just hope they evolve again in the next one, instead of making another misfire.
after playing the pc port of this game and doing as much as i can, and playing about 35 hours.... i personally loved it. it felt more like i was playing FONV. i had to make sure i wasn't screwing up who i had with me, making damn sure i had the skills i needed for that faction and even my own combat style (which was game breaking because of fucking course guns are going to be busted as hell), and i loved the story and interactions the characters had. yes, i had mechanical nit picks like fast travel being locked behind campfires and globes, as well a few moments of "oh come on you literally just went through an entire ark that deals with what your commenting on in a hateful mannor!" but everyone felt real, and for the time i was with them, those companions felt like people who actually grew. it was worth it for me, even if i didn't like the back and forth foot work i had to do, but being fair, back in the day it was either do the foot work yourself, or send a letter. and as a broker of peace, i had to do that footwork when fast travel wasn't around.
I’ve decided to purchase the game myself as I’ve been very eager to get my hands on this game and formulate my own opinion. However, I’m very thankful this video has managed my expectations. Great review, SkillUp
Just do what I did and "demo it". I ended up finishing it, but felt that it wasn't quite worth the price, so I'll support it on sale later. The reason for this is hard to explain, but Spiders games always have something special that draws you in, so that's why I recommend you try it, you might like far more then skillup did. Many people do.
What I'm finding after sifting through reviews and impressions, is... if you primarily enjoy ARPGs, you will probably enjoy GREEDFALL. If you play and enjoy AA (and "Euro jank") games like VAMPYR and GOTHIC, you'll probably enjoy GREEDFALL. If you are a solid AAA gamer who only dips into the RPG world with Elder Scrolls, you'll probably be disappointed with GREEDFALL. I don't mean any disrespect but it just seems like SkillUp wasn't reviewing the game for what it is... but criticizing it for what it isn't. Too high expectations? And then to hope for a sequel? No, IMHO SkillUp bought into hype and then couldn't enjoy anything except a new AA darling ascending to the "Bioware" AAA crown. I still enjoy the reviews here, but seeing a decided difference in taste (and possibly objectivity) on this genre (or even sub-genre).
@HighSeas I still think SkillUp is a great reviewer but I just think he treated this game a bit unfairly. ACG, Yong Yea, and others seemed to be a bit more understanding of what the game is... and isn't. But... maybe it's just not SkillUp's thing? Or maybe I just love Euro-jank (which I do)? Anyway, seems many others are really connecting with the game warts-and-all and many of the stores near me sold out day 1. Glad to see it.
@@wallacesousuke1433 "Euro jank" is a slang term for European AA games with requisite limited budgets and limited development -- often with a lot of "rough edges" (jank). Sometimes it's used in a derogatory manner, but not always. In fact I love "Euro jank" games; I find that they tend to have "heart" and a level of ambition that the stagnent, complacent AAA gamespace lacks.
@@kaipacifica1289 oh, thanks for the info, I also find appeal in non-AAA games, especially indie and Japanese games, but Imma look into some Euro "jank" ge, that may have not appeared on my radar (Greedy fall is already in my list)!
@@wallacesousuke1433 like Greedfall, you can always check out Vampyr, Technomancer, Elex, the Risen series, even early CDPJR titles (Witcher 1) to name a few modern titles that I guess could be considered under the Euro-Jank moniker. Mostly a lot of openish world RPGs with lower budgets but tries their best to be larger budget presentation. Spiders and Piranha Bites being the more known developers.
It's a 2A-game, and you keep comparing it to AAA games, with vastly more money, manpower, and resources. Hell the fact that you're even comparing it to some of the Best RPG's ever created and saying... "Yeah, it's kinda okay, but it's not THOSE..." Is one not a reasonably fair comparison, and two, if you understand its a 2A game, not a AAA game, going it, that's damn near glowing praise. Because you're basically saying look at the 2A game with as I said les money, manpower, and resources then all these other games, and yet all I can do is compare it to these other games. This looks to be a good maybe not great, a 7 out of 10 game coming out of an ever stinking middle market.
The only reason it's getting that comparison in the first place is because the genre feels like it's dying and we're all desperate for great new single player wRPG experiences. It's not because of size of studio or expectations. It's because the devs chose to dive into this pool which previously had only been truly explored by the big AAA studios. Smaller teams generally don't attempt this level of cinematics + third person Action RPG combat + deep RPG systems + branching narrative + complex stat checks and choice-based quests ETC. They bit off a huge freaking chunk out of an immense cake and we're all starving. So yes. The comparison is unfair. But that's what you get when you play this game. Hopefully the studio makes enough cash on this new IP that their next game improves on the concepts that work, and fix the ones that don't. It's a good first experience, just not a great one.
so lets lay the pain to a low budget dev whose actually trying to provide something, so instead of supporting them, and giving good critical feedback, we tell people not to buy, so they dont have any money to continue.
@@HookahOtaku Reviewer is entitled to his opinion. SkillUp has decided that what the game does right isn't, in his opinion, enough to justify a purchase in light of what it gets wrong. A lot of other reviewers are glossing over some of these harsh criticisms especially because there's a dearth of good, engaging single-player RPGs on the market right now. I see no problem in warning people that it's not all roses and rainbows and that there could be caveats to a potential buyer's enjoyment of the game. YMMV and all, but I don't think anything that was said is unfair. It's a product, not the Mona Lisa. To me, the information about the quality of the companions is critical in informing my purchase. That might not apply to you and in that case, kudos, enjoy your purchase, I guess. I also want the dev to succeed, but I don't have 67 bucks CAD to throw out of a window in order to gamble on their next release.
I will purchase this game despite its flaws. There are mixed reviews everywhere but the game isn’t $60 and they are an indie studio. I’ve been waiting for this fame for awhile
Yeah that might explain the issue skillup has with the cut/paste locations in the game, studios with smaller budgets have no choice but to reuse assets and that is one of the dangers of making an rpg as fans of the genre have very high expectations due to the great games already in the genre. What I take from the review is that it isnt a bad game but dont be expecting The Witcher type quality from it.
this game is a solid 7/10 for me. it felt like i was playing the first dragon age. edit: the only thing i'll agree with is the lack of mini-map. opening the map every 10 seconds while in the wild was frustrating sometimes.
Here two years later, because it came up in your news video, to say that I agree with every single one of the criticisms, but still loved the RPG/crafting enough to really enjoy my time with this game. Looking forward to picking up the new content.
Gettin some Kingdom Come: Deliverance vibes here. A lotta promise and high hopes, doesnt quite hit the mark, still potentially good, just not worth $50-$60. Absolute A for effort from a small crew tho.
i spent around 100 hours on the game on first play through without finishing it just strolling around and hunting rabbits and get drank. I for one really enjoyed it but the lunch bugs are horrid and it plays sh8t but still la gem nonetheless
KCD hit the mark and more. Its an immense game. Its awfully difficult to make a game with some many mechanics incorporated into a game like KCD and Warhorse nail it. A truly great and proper RPG game
@@XenogearsPS Or maybe you're a dumbass because you don't understand that it is possible that you can't recommend a game but still hope the devs do well and improve on where it was lacking.
@@sold0ut210 STFU, how are they gonna make another game if they're broke. How do you think the witcher series got started? You think their first game didn't suck. If everyone only bought the same run of the mill game because it's the safe thing to do we wouldn't have games that were made awesome in the future.
I cannot explain how much I fucking love this game's aesthetic. Conquistadors, Spanish nobility, and pirates in a fantasy world with long, collared jackets and single-shot flintlock pistols abound, right alongside magic and monsters that threaten colonization efforts. It's impossible for me to convey how much I want a sequel that fleshes out this world and has a much more focused narrative. Given time and competent members of the dev team, I feel like a sequel to this game would be mind-blowing. I JUST NEED MORE MAGIC CONQUISTADORS.
You can still buy it, and you should, as much as reviews are important source of knowledge, its not like you wont enjoy it because someone else didnt. Im having an amazing time with it for example.
I would say this: other reviewers are much more positive (take a look at ACG for instance). Spiders is -- as always -- trying to push beyond their AA budgets (and 20 person team) and deserves a look. If they continue on this trajectory, I firmly believe Spiders will be a AAA RPG studio quite soon. The level of Skill Ups criticisms is pretty severe and doesn't seem quite in line with most others.
I'm still intent on picking it up, it's more a case of also recognising how they're striving for something beyond what a normal team their size was going for. They clearly got their systems right, and their visuals on point, but just didn't have the resources to truly flesh out their world and narative. Really excited for other stuff they plan on doing some day
Opinions are subjective. But you all seem to miss one of the main points of a review. For a full priced 60 for an AA game, is it worth it? Is this 30 hour game worth as much as Witcher 3 when it first came out? Brainpower is lacking nowadays.
@@ravagethelegend6217 Firstly, I think you miss the point... Greedfall is not a full-price $60 game. Maybe you didn't know that? Secondly, reviews are subjective -- but should try to be as objective as possible. Why? Because they are ascribing value to a product or service. SU's preoccupations during this review show some strong prejudices and what I consider unfair and unwarranted comparisons to AAA content. I don't dislike SU's content (or Laymen), but this review just doesn't play to his strengths... which IMO seems to be AAA content.
Really? Im having an amazing time with it, honestly majority of your issues seem very small or just plain wrong to me, especially if you know the history and what the game actually is, its odd it doesnt deserve a recommendation when its quite obviously a very, very good role playing game. I personally didnt have any bugs so far, except for a character with closed eyes, no issues with combat aside for occasional jankiness as I got used to it and while you might not like backtracking or asset copying its hardly a big deal, content is there, quests are well written and interesting, areas are samey of course as it is one island but beautiful and well worth exploring and what issues do you have with the pc port? It has been running nearly perfectly for me with ultra settings. This feels like one of those wrong expectations reviews to me, on top of which you would seemingly be one of the people to say Witcher 3 launched with many bugs even tho in my experience it was an incredibly smooth launch, so is Greedfall. I love your reviews and usually find myself agreeing with you and even finding out what is it that bothered me in a game when I was unsure myself, but this time I heartily disagree with you. Greedfall is worthy of a purchase and more than worthy of your time, not quite yet worthy of picking up Bioware's slack, but getting there, closer and closer with each title. Id recommend this on potential alone.
A good guideline is to always keep expectations really low. Gomna bet my ass people won't do that even with code vein when it comes out because it's been compared to dark souls...
@@iota-09 Agreed, and comparing Greedfall to Witcher and Bioware games isnt going tdo it any favors. Its int he same vein and it truly is a good game imo, but you simply cant expect anything on the same level, at least not yet, from a company with much smaller budget and miniscule staff in comparison. Comparing games should only be taken as far as their similarities go, not just expect the games to be as good, bir or whatever, that is simply unfair.
I will be unfair and say after witcher 3 I have higher standards than this. If devs don't have the funds to deliver maybe they should do something else.
As a reviewer (SkillUp), I think it would be counter productive to just rate something base on potential alone. His main criticism about a story driven title not having a compelling narrative (w/ interesting characters) seems like a pretty huge flaw. That's not something you can blame on lack of resources. I also hate when games don't have enough enemy variety to complement the pacing. Combat and skill progression should be diverse, especially in an RPG. Not tailored to one particular meta or build. 1) Story - World & Characters (including enemies) 2) Combat - Mechanics & Skill Progression These are just the standards of a good RPG. From my point of view, if Spiders can't nail this stuff down on their smaller scaled titles (like M.A.R.S. and Technomancer), I wouldn't expect them to get it right on their bigger projects.
@@doitlive9214 True, but he can add caviats to a recommendation, as he has done in the past. And yea, those are truly the most important aspects of a game, I totally agree, however from my experience so far, he is wrong. The story reminds me of Gothic of old, its not an epic tale, a race to save the world from begining to end, but that doesnt make it not intriguing or good, in fact, the story and many of the side quests are played do intrigue me, make sense and promote the enviroments and the specific organizations. The characters are not on par with Biowares when it comes to depth, that much is true, but to say they arnt interesting or compelling would also be wrong in my eyes, you just do not get a dropdown menu with dozen options as soon as you meet them to get to know them, they do have character and you will get to know them however. I just find it genuinely harsh to not recommend a game like this to an rpg fan, wouldnt recommend it to any fan of course, but if people were fine with writing and characters in AC Odyssey and hailed it as a somewhat Bioware like game, this should get its chance as well.
Umm he never said that. Sounded more like a 5 out of 10. Considering he mentioned he doesn't recommend it. Way to twist this entire review into your own opinion tho.
@@SladeWins Honestly a game with no Microtransactions and a 30 hour plus RPG single player is kind of Rare these days.And it's only $50 on Consoles to.
It is flawed, but 10 hours in I have enjoyed my time with Greedfall. It is the story and RPG mechanics which truly matters to me and so far it is solid. I've played Spiders' previous games and my expectations weren't too high. I expected a decent AA game and that is what I'm getting and a bit more. The improvement from Technomancer is just staggering. This developer deserves a chance.
I just got this game for free from the PS store and started playing it last night. I'm a few hours into it but I'm liking it so far although I do find the character customization a little lacking. I hope they do make a sequel to this game because it has so much potential.
First of all: Thank you for the review and all the work that went into it. I've waited, till I finished the game myself, to view this video, in case of unintentional spoilers. @SkillUp To be perfectly clear: I like most of the stuff you put out there and think you have a really good understanding of the video game industry and its products. That being said, I do not agree with your conclusion on this game, which is why I post this "small" comment as to hopefully give whoever wants to read it another point of view to consider before condemning this game, as it CAN be (not is) a fantastic experience. Yes, many of the problems you pointed out are certainly there, like facial animations, hiccups in combat and enemy variety. But on the other hand, stuff like story, companions and even the length of the game have felt very satisfactory, even great to me (yes, I know that all this sounds just like my subjective opinion, but hear me out). I loved the old Bioware Games and even the never ones like Inquisition and Andromeda (not Anthem though, f**k Anthem). I really hope there will be more games like those in the future and I think Greedfall is one of them, IF you are A) someone like me, interested in extensive and deep role playing games and willing/able to overlook "smaller" faults ("small", depending on whats important to you) and B) play it the right way (not necessarily the way intended by the developers). The way I had so much fun while playing Greedfall, was on the one hand certainly because it has been a while since we had such an RPG at our hands, but the main reason has been HOW I played it. If you are looking for something like a delicious diversified 5 star menu, where you just have to sit down and enjoy your meal, then yeah, what Skill Up says in this video is absolutely correct. If you treat Greefall rather as something like a book though, where things like story, world and characters are delivered to you, but your imagination has to create something out of that in your head, then Greedfall can be amazing. Things like holes in the game, where it gets repetitive, or the rather unattractive facial animations can be compensate by ones own imagination. I know this is something many people wouldn't want to do when they buy a video game and that's ok. Because why make a game then, when you could write a book? Why do pay for this and then having to do part of the developers work for them by imagining an even richer world and deeper characters than those in the game? That being said, I don't use this argument lightly. One could argue that we could do this for every bad game. "JuST iMAginE AlL THe misSiNg StuFF." But I don't think that's the right way. Rather there are some titles from time to time, that because of an amazing worldbuilding or awesome characters or fantastic story, are worth leaning into by putting in a little work of our own. Keeping this in mind, Greedfall to me is exactly that. It feels like the interpretation a fascinating book, where the developers tried to portrait its contents as an interactive 3D experience, where we, the player, can affect the outcome of the story. And keeping in mind that we are talking about a team of 30 people here, I think they did an amazing job. So, if you are someone like me and are wondering if Greedfall might be somehting for you: Rest assured. There is plenty of fun to be had here. Nonetheless Skill Up is not wrong about many faults of this game and there are certainly things that have to be overlooked in order to have fun, which I gladly did for this small team, as I got one of the best games of the last years for me in return. As a conclusion I'd like to go along with Skill Up in that I really really REALLY hope, that there will be a sequel to this game. I hope this short review helps some of you and thanks again for the video :)
I have no idea how someone can "imagine the missing parts" in a game. People often say this for bad movies and at least then you can read some mediocre fan fiction or extended content that's semi official. But with a game how can you simply "imagine" what's not there? How can fighting the same boss 4 times be exaggerated to something better in your head?
@@evanhenderson9461 I think you could compare it to fan fiction. The difference being I didn't write any of it down while playing or after. It's just stuff I interpreted in the world, the characters and the relationships that weren't explicitly shown or told but "could" be there. A bit like scify, where authors use the grey areas in our understanding of physics to imagine something like travelling faster than the speed of light or wormholes. I found the world they were painting fascinating, yet sadly a bit empty from time to time. Like stuff and people were missing and barely any NPC was turely interacting with the world, most of them just standing around. It was more fun imagining a wild buzzing island: hunters in the forest, caravans travelling from town to town, native abushes and so on. All that was talked about but we never really got to see any. Every are was always in a standstill. Also more interaction with your party. Sure, you can talk to them from time to time, but they always use the same voice lines and romances felt especially hollow. For this I like Dragon Age Inquisition far better, where you could still flirt with your paramour, even after having finished their romance side plot. Of course most of this is due to the budget and team being rather small, but the underlying worldbuilding was amazing. I truely wish for a second part with more content and depth. Sadly for this one players have to depend on their own ficition if they want more depth than there is.
This game is incredible. The problem is the scope of peoples expectations. This is easily Spiders greatest title, yes there is tons of copy and paste work and clunky camera and combat. But when you realize the size of the dev team and the fact that this is a story driven game, all the unimportant flaws go out the window. This game makes you feel like a diplomat in a way you never thought you wanted. They delivered a $50 game that is incredibly intriguing and making me excited for a 2nd playthrough. There are no catches, micros, or Triple A studio excuses. They put out a full game with new rpg mechanics and to not play this game or support this company is a mistake.
most people watching this would not even reach until the end of the video where you cover some good points of the game lol should have mentioned some good points at start.
been playing their games since bound by flame, and with each game I can see them getting better and better, maybe one day they'll finally get the formula right, but Im glad they even got to this point
I'm not particularly miffed with reviewers individual opinions, if I'm interested in a game I'll play it and see for myself. And for a large part of my time that works out for me. Sure, objectively FFXV isn't great and KH3 is a bit of a disappointment, but I love them. However, I love watching reviews, especially ones like these, because it breaks down various opinions on a game and shows what someone vastly more experienced with the industry than I generally thinks. So yeah, I'm still getting greedfall, but I appreciate the opinions and ideas put forward here. I'm away to watch the ACG review everyone is clamouring on about, but great work as always Ralph!
Preach brother. I just bought ps4 about a year ago so I missed out on all the hypes surrounding FFXV during the trailer announcement or whatnot. I'm a huge FF fans so I knew then my first ps4 game was going to be FFXV. Went into the game completely blind > Was blown away by how well it played, and the story! Maaan the bromance definitely hit me deep in the feels. Went to look up on things (trailers / reviews) that I've missed after finishing the game > I get why people feel cheated and/or the game is not good enough then.
I love how you give us the rundown at the very beginning of the video, saving us time.. Unlike some (ahem) "other" channels who hide their score in the video to get us to watch the whole thing, you tell us straight up at the beginning of the vid.. It's going to hurt your watch times but I appreciate it nonetheless.. Good job, guys!
While I do appreciate your honesty in your non-recommendation, given the stagnate pool of what is available, I'm probably going to buy this game at the end of the month. All the grips put forward I can completely live with if it means I can play a single player, RPG, with an interactive story where I can create my own character. There's such a void of this kind of game in the markets right now that I can live with a flawed experience over the half-baked crap we've been getting. At least this game wasn't designed to suck the money from my freaking wallet.
You are my go to video reviewer your content is the best. I watch reviews of yours on games I haven't even heard of and/or care about. Keep up the tremendous work playa.
Guys remember this is a small studio Skill up gives a fair review here but I’d recommend looking at multiple differing reviews and go from that, ACG gives a decent contrast if anyone is interested.
This whole review is extremely reminiscent of how i felt with the Witcher 1. If this studio keeps with this franchise, and expands upon its good features and fixes the faulty ones, they really could have a breakout franchise. Witcher 2 put CDProjectRed on the map. Maybe Greedfall 2 will do the same for Spyder.
It may be a little thin and janky here and there, but it's nice to see this sort of RPG come out, it's been awhile. I kind of want to support the developers for continuing to improve on their past efforts, and also appreciate no micro-transactions, or other BS that has gotten so out of control
I personally believe everyone's expectations with Greedfall were way too high. This is not a AAA developer, this is a middle market french developer trying their best with great ideas despite a low budget. If you look at Spiders games one by one, and if you've been playing them all like i have, you'll see this is a huge improvement on the ones that came before despite the obvious growing pains of finally making a full blown "open world" RPG. I'm loving it so far because i went into Greedfall expecting a better effort from Spiders and in that way they absolutely succeeded. As for the lip syncing Mass Effect Andromeda got crucified for the overall poor animation quality with the faces, lips, overall movement being bad as well as seriously poor dialogue at times. Like that time the two krogans got into a fight and it looked like a couple of action figures slapping each other. Not JUST the lip syncing and that was a full price AAA developed game so of course consumers expect better. This is a BUDGET game made by a BUDGET developer and the lower price reflects that. That being said Skills points are absolute fair, especially in regard to the repetition and bugs (Spiders games are full of bugs on launch) , but it's just not fair to go into Greedfall expecting the "new Dragon Age" or " new Elder Scrolls". If THAT'S what you expected you were only setting yourself up for disappointment. Temper your expectations people.
I never really cared about lip syncing and facial animations in RPGs. Andromeda just had an awful cast of characters with awful dialogue and a storyline which seemed that even the writers did not care about. Greedfall is a budget game made ony by about 30 people. People should not expect AAA quality. It's a AA game. It seemed to me that Ralph expected AAA quality from this. It's completely unrealistic considering Spiders' previous game Technomancer. Massive improvement over Technomancer, 10 hours in and I cannot believe this is the same developers from The Technomancer.
Finally getting to this and i couldn’t disagree more. This is top tier AA gaming. A story doesnt need a big baddy to be good. The story is about the situations and life that happens around the main crew. I love it. Its very personal and relatable
I feel like you’re one of the only ones who doesn’t recommend this game. I own it but it’s rough around the edges but as far as questing goes its very very good
Spiders is definitely a dev team that puts a ton of heart into their games. That can’t be denied. They manage to turn out solid games that accomplish why they try to do, at their core. The issue is that you can see the size of the dev team come to a fault with the technicals of the game. Greedfall is a game with massive promise. Massive. I’d love to see what they could do with a dev team twice the size and a budget twice the size. I always buy spider games simply because you can always see how much heart and passion they put into the games, regardless of how flawed they are.
Okay but like, 60% of witcher 3 was the same drab greens and browns of Velen, 10% copypasted city/townscapes, and 30% Skellige. And I won't complain about that, because it made sense. It was a fantastical world that was grounded in reality. Greedfall takes place on a single island, right? Why on earth would there be drastically different vistas when it's clear they were really trying to embody that same Witcher 3 realism.
i think he meant the other way around, he wanted the story to be more compact. as in, instead of 3 diferent cities, make it a single, but more diverse one, instead of 20 or so fields looking the same, add more variety, it doesnt need to go from a volcano to a frigid snowy plain, but more variety in the feel of the enviroment( more caves, rivers, lakes, things like that to make it feel more expansive). and finally the enemy variety. i mentioned this in a diferent post, all this could be aliviated if it focused less on trying to be realistic. as in, the graphics, had they gone with something more cartoony, or even something like a stylized HQ ps2 game, they would be able to add much more to their game.
@@mariobadia4553 It's called precedent. The lack of environment variation directly compares to Wild Hunt. Marcos Danilo I won't excuse the lack of enemy variety, and I definitely would've preferred a more stylized artistic approach
@@Scuuurbs you know it would be cool to have a Witcher Easter egg if there was two random civilians talking about seeing this white haired girl before seeing her disappear in a flash of green light.
I don't know man, i respect your opinion but it looks pretty stylish to me especially considering its not a triple A game, i also don't care about the lip sync in the slightest. I know its not a masterpiece but i'm still getting it, after completing the Witcher 3 a couple years ago i'm starving for a aRPG in this style.
@@warmlycalculated390 I think it depends what you want from a game. Witcher 3 is more narratively driven. ELEX is more an exploration game. I enjoyed both.
Just finished the game. Take me 60 hrs to complete with all quests done. I like it, but the constant back and forth became more and more annoying, the areas of the game are more or less the same. The devs did a great game with the money they had but you can feel the constrains. As I played it long after release, I didn't experience any bugs. And that's funny, lypsinc is indeed not very good, but I didn't even care that much. Still worth a try, especially on a discount.
Because big maps are mandatory since Skyrim, it's a cheap way to make a game longer. But most games don't bother actually putting interesting stuff in the world, it's big for the sake of being big. Here they even prevent you from exploring that because they had nothing to put there.
The sense of exploration is still there. You can lose yourself going into caves and corridors. Early in the game I accidentally stumbled into a nest for one of the island creatures that promptly handed me my ass for about 40 minutes ( playing on the hardest difficulty) I can tell skill up played on normal or easy, which is a mistake. This game shines at the hard difficulties
Thanks so much! You really helped me simplify my game buying options with this review. To bad it wasn’t that great. I’m excited for them to improve on everything and keep what they did right!
This is another Witcher 1 situation. A game with heart that is mostly limited by the lack of experience of the developers. I hope FX Interactive (the publisher) gives them another chance and we get a much better game in a few years.
What makes the Witcher 1 unique is that it tells a better story than most AAA games. Even with its flaws, the story made the first WItcher special to me. Also, it was 2007. Video games have changed a lot since. For 2007, Witcher 1 was very good. Hasn't aged well though. You can't really compare it to Greedfall. This isn't Spiders' first game either. Also disagree with Ralph with this review. He isn't treating Greedfall as a AA game.
Well, at the moment the only game that has full animated dialogues is Sekiro, and in my opinion it was a very good work. Only for notice, did you play that game in english?
10h in - LOVE IT! Setting, artstyle, NO GODDAMN FETCH QUESTS, customization etc. Game is rough around the edges but MY GOD it's addicting and well written. Not to mention that it's without ANY microtransactions, no season pass (hell, Spiders even said that there are no DLCs planned. Everything is in the base game) and it's cheaper than 60$ One of my favorites this year - another great surprise after Control.
ACG was critical about basically the same things. Excessive copy paste environment, combat doesn't have much variety and quickly becomes extremely easy on the hardest setting.
Chill guys. I'm sure everyone has bought a "bad" game based on a review. There's just no reviewer that going to share the same opinion as you on everything so it's good to listen to more than one.
Great review as always. I always found myself enjoying Spiders games for some reason. I finished all of them, bugs/jank and all. I always say the same thing after each of them... "damn... They were so close to making something good, but they just missed the mark". So I think Skillup is trying to say the same when referring to a sequel. One thing I appreciate is the freshness Spiders bring to the industry with their stories and how they make multiple game worlds instead of sequel after sequel of the same game.
I bought this game mainly to support the developers. I'm about 5 hours in and so far i like it. I think that for small studio like Spiders the game is very polished and overall a very good rpg experience.
Yeah some don't like it and some seem to enjoy it. ACG even said the questing is some of the best. I was going to get it anyway unless it was absolute rubbish since im desperate for a decent rpg.
Kinda not surprised considering that Spiders is a developer that has creative ambitions but lack of polish in their games suffers for it. Always worth checking them out when they go on sale.
I´m so glad I did not watch this review before. bc for me this game is amazing for the funds they had for making it. This is the ultimate ambassador simulator.
Recently started playing greedfall and although most of what he says is true on the surface level there is something intangible that overpowers all those shortcomings. It's fun. Really fun. Limitation of budget seems to be the biggest problem for most of the issues for the scale of what the game tries to accomplish. But there is something about it that you cant put it down.
How i see it, if the game devs keep up the momentum of improving their games as they are now, i believe they can make a better game in the future. They just have to keep learning from their mistakes and keep improving.
I find it distracting to have a minimap in an openworld RPG like The Witcher or Horizon, so I played both with only a compass (modded for TW3) that told me the general direction of objectives when I felt like it. This lets me explore the world without taking my eyes away from the scenery. Too much time is spent looking at arrows, maps and minimaps in those games, it's a shame. HOWEVER ! GreedFall isn't an open world RPG, in this game the Minimap makes more sense since you can just say "well if it's not there I just take another route and get to my objective from the side", you actually have to follow a set path to reach areas of the map. That's why I used the minimap in TW3 only when I was looking for specific NPCs in towns where the layout mimics a corridor-based RPG.
You'd know if you used the mini maps, and especially since you use the compass, you only glance down to see if you're on the right path. We aren't staring intensely at the map to find the next objective, just to get a bearing on where we're supposed to go. You can still take in the scenery while galloping down a road.
@@Fernisvale I've been using minimaps for as long as I can remember, and it's only since I've stopped using them recently (say a year or two ago) that I truly started savoring the virtual worlds. You talk about galloping, when my playstyle is more "slowly trotting or walking" to my destination, only using fast travel to a point when I have visited everything between point A and point B. But you are right in the sense that this only caters to my personal playstyle and how I like to interact with a world :)
To be fair, you do say it's still a good game. I think this is what we should be focusing on, not whether you should recommend or not - if the game is okay, that's a buy. That to me is what is important, Spider is barely known in the industry so this footprint getting enough attention to influence a sequel might help boost the sequel.
This game was very good for me. YES you can see that 40 people made this game with little budget but it was better RPG game then cyberpunk.. If this game had atleast 50 mil budget would have exploded. But i dont think there will be a sequel and its a shame.
Should have recommended the game if you want a sequel. They are TRYING to make a good ARPG in old Bioware-style. This game is ALMOST there. If it does well then an even better sequel is very likely. This studio is getting better with each game they create. Normally I would wait for a sale but I really want to start supporting studios that create single player games with no microtransactions.
This. A million times this. It’s on us as the consumer to try and fix what’s happened to the gaming industry by supporting studios like these. Cause god knows EA and their like won’t do it. I’ll take this flawed but passionate game over another EA game, polished but soulless and predatory, ANY day..
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Hey mate, I strongly recommend removing those game logos on your Patreon. Just seems weird to me; kinda like you're sponsored by them.
Fuck,you are a casualtard.
Whens Sekiro?
Rats, really needed a colonial era game right about now.
Cheers for the review! Been curious for a while about how this game would turn out.
This review is the equivalent of being dumped but being told you have a great personality afterward and they hope you find someone special.
It's me, you did nothing wrong
Translation: Welcome to the Friendzone.
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@@BubblegumCrash332 😂🤣😂🤣💯💯💯
“I like you. But I don’t love you. I hope we can still be friends.”
So true. 😂
A flawed game, but made with heart, and with great RPG mechanics. Will buy this on PS4 tomorrow
Exactly I mean, it doesn't seem like this game is a cash grab and his complaints are just... Stupid.
@@Gatitasecsii How are his complaints stupid? It was very informative and all of the the annoying things he pointed out are minor but numerous, and that volume definitely add up. Also his complaints are constructive...unlike yours.
Some people who played this game will agree with him and some wont. U should not call a person stupid because of his opinion. How about showing some proofs and logic to demonstrate the reason why this game is truly good and his opinion is wrong? He already mentioned that the game is not worth a buy at the moment, displays the proofs and wants the devs to refine this game furthermore in the future.
@@PopeRNGesus lip syincing is a minor detail. There's more but I don't feel like summarizing the entire video for you, just watch it yourselves.
@@Gatitasecsii already did and what you say make no sence.
You refuse to explain why you think skill up review was stupid because you have nothing worth to say.
After playing Xenoblade 2, repeating lines during combat just don't phase me anymore. That part of my brain is dead...
Hilarious, but I know exactly what u mean.
Yes yes
DragonQuest 11 is also guilty of that damned to be heard 300 x’s within a grind session dialogue
i could say the same after playing yakuza 0, kiwami 1 and 2
Lmao 💯
"Wolves hunt in packs Arisen."
Dragon's Dogma Dark Arisen gang reporting in, with my super helpful loli-pawn informing me for the fifty billionth time that wolves, those animals so well known for hunting in packs that "a wolf pack" is a thing in submarine combat, do in fact hunt in packs.
The Witcher One wasn't a particularly well made game either but supporting the small studio (at the time) CD Projekt Red eventually allowed them to create one of the greatest rpg's ever made. Personally I'm choosing to support these dev's in the hope that giving them access to a larger budget and more resources will afford them the opportunity to build on what they've created here in future games.
It was vastly better than this and most games. It was definitely great. Obviously overshadowed by it's sequels
@@ChocolateEffigy I would politely disagree, the story was quite good but also had the benefit of a series of novels to help flesh out the game world, in terms of gameplay the original Witcher game has some of the worst controls and combat I've ever seen in an RPG, it's ui and levelling system was also a needlessly complicated mess. I still thoroughly enjoyed the game in spite of these shortcomings and I agree it was definitely overshadowed by its sequels but that was kind of my point, without people supporting the clearly inferior first game we would never have gotten those superior sequels.
I enjoyed witcher 3 but the combat was MUNDANELY boring. It was completely basic. I actually bought Witcher when it first came out. After playing the intro area, I uninstalled the game just purely based on how basic the combat was. Looking at this game, the combat, even with his complaints, seems 10x better than DA or W3. Witcher 3 storyline isn't the best I've ever seen either, and Geralts flat voice can get a bit grating at times, even though he had character. It sounds like I'm complaining about Witcher but I'm not, it's still a good game. But I can't understand why it gets passes for absolutely atrocious combat and hailed as one of the best games ever made, yet reviewers jump on this.
I've yet to play it, but the only thing I can take away from this review is that the character development and world settings sucked in this game. Fair enough. But so long as people sing high heavens about Witcher despite its flaws, I'll take a chance on this game as my next single player experience.
@@EntertheFray1 you played on easy right ?
The first Witcher is a good comparison to this game. However, I think CDPR got funding from the Polish government to help produce the sequels, which helped the quality, plus the books as source material. Greedfall has promise though, so hopefully they can improve on that.
You fought the same 3 bosses a dozen times?
That's at least 3x more variety than Halo 5.
I don't remember Halo being boss-centric. Those were few and far between in the franchise, but they never needed them.
Another Halo 5 hater. I liked it. Its great
@@Chino56751 never said I hated it.
@@xHiTtHeLiGhTx try replaying it. just to see that you fight same boss 7 times in a row.
Dead Wolf was that referring to halo 5 ? Because u are absolutely right. U fight that same boss. The new halo better have different bosses. Why can’t they follow gears of war, atleast they have boss variety. I could think of plenty of different boss types for halo that would make it a stellar story campaign.
After Cyberpunk: Who knows when we’ll get another Witcher...and how that’ll turn out.
Exactly what I thought lmao
Knew someone would comment this lol
A glichy game thats god tier but the bugs hold it back from being recognized from how damn good it is?
@@mr.froglegs It’s not God tier.
Despite it being a god awful performance disaster, the writing is really no better than the top-tier of game’s writing today (The Last of Us, Spider-Man, The Outer Worlds, Ghost of Tsushima, etc.). Meanwhile, the gameplay is certainly worse than the top of its genre. First person shooters are better executed in COD, Battlefield, and even some Indie games. And the stealth mechanics are even worse than Assassin’s Creed’s.
The whole may be greater than the sum of its parts, especially absent glitches and bugs. BUT the game is not god-tier. It’s a good to pretty good game. At best. It certainly isn’t Witcher 3.
@@TheDarman I agree on everything you said, but the game is simply not finished. In 12 months the game will be different. If no mans sky can redeem itself so can cyberpunk. You dont really think that the games current state is how the devs intended it? (people keep saying how great the witcher is but i doubt that most of these people played it on release as it was far from the state it is now. But it wasnt a mess like cyberpunk on release.)
Skill Up: I can't reccomend Greedfall.
Also Skill Up: I hope Greedfall gets a sequel.
Yep :)
I love it! 😁😎
I think it's that the devs had the right idea, setting the game world in the 17 Century and mixing in realism with fantasy elements. However, it appears the problems are with the core gameplay, as well as characterisation. Fix those issues and what you have is a fantastic RPG game set in an exciting period. I reckon if the devs focused on making this a more linear game/story, it would've been more contained and overall better experience. I think that's why he hopes for a sequel.
@@SkillUp so how are they going to make a sequel without making money first?
Well they can't make a sequel unless it sells well. So in hopes of Spiders getting even better in the future,I will buy their game. Even if it has its problems,ill still enjoy it,and through buying it support a hopefully great future developer.
I bought Vampyr and enjoyed it despite its flaws, and I will buy this game and probably enjoy it, despite its flaws. Even if these developers don't make incredibly enthralling experiences, they still deserve a chance.
Same, wouldve never touched Vampyr if it wasnt for ACG's reviews and i loved it. He gave this game a pass and its not a full priced game, not losing much with picking it up.
I agree, vapmyr was great for me even with all the flaws it had
It's a double A, you can tell quality folks were working on it with less resources and scope than some of the modern classic RPGS
@@nutmalone5527 tried to do a pacifist run, got to chapter 3, botched it and said 'fuck it, everyone dies' after getting stuck at the cemetery fight.
@@johngun7418 did a pacifist run and a everyone must die run. vampyr is just good. it introduced something new to the vampire genre. also played remember me from the same devs and enjoyed that. both had flaws but were still enjoyable. this one though. im not a fan of padding and broken quests. will definitely wait for patches and a sale.
I like how the thumbnail is to the point instead of clickbait. We come here for the details
Funny, cause I think Control's thumbnail was full on clickbait 😄
Even the opening of the video too. Most reviewers say “is it any good? Let’s find out!” as if they don’t know what verdict they are going to share (and as if I can’t just skip to the end if I want to), whereas SkillUp just comes right out the gate with the verdict and then the following half hour is spent justifying it in-depth, and I respect that so much more honestly.
Coming back to the review after just finishing the game (got it on sale over the holidays). While firmly a AA title, the game really left a lasting impression with how intertwined the side quests, faction loyalty, and party members can affect the main quest. I'll definitely replay it when the PS5 update is available and try some other quest options.
I just tried it with the PS5 update and the loading times/60fps are great, but unfortunately I was a little let down by the game part. Ten hours in and it’s like I’ve faced the same set of three different kinds of enemy every time, randomly placed around. The story and quests are definitely the highlights.
This game is fucking horrible. Easily the most shallow RPG I've ever played. Every game mechanic is bare bones. I really wanted to enjoy this too. I forced myself to play about 10 hours. I deleted and redownloaded 3 different times. I don't care if it's AA, there's no excuses for this trash. The people who like it are just saying so because they think shitting on AAA games and stanning indie games makes them look cool
I admit, I seem to have it on PS Plus. So I'll give it a shot.
@@tugboat6940 or maybe people just really like the game?
@@game_boyd1644 ya or maybe just everything I said lol what's your point? The game had so much potential but they ruined it with stupid things they could've fixed if they had more money. Like why is every indoor area just a copy of another one? People only stan this game because it's not AAA. Sorry but that doesn't make you cool or any more of a gamer than anyone else. I judge games based on themselves, not who made them of what went into them.
I feel like this is a 5 to 10 minute review stretched into a 30 minute one ;)
Hahahhahahahahahhahahha
lmfao
lmao ain't that the truth
Just ranting lol but I like his videos
The difference is that he gave you his verdict in the first few minutes and expanded upon it
5-10 minutes of great reviewing, stretched out to 30 minutes? ;)
lol this is gold
LMAO!
Boom! Head shot. i think this review is trash, the game for what it is priced and the studio who produced it is great.
No it still good review
Better review of this hit piece than than the hit pieces review of Greedfall.
The game might not be as good as we hoped(maybe our expectations were too high as usual ) but I will still buy it and support the developers.
I enjoyed their games so far (mars war log, bound by flame and technomancer) as very flawed but entertaining games made with heart and passion.
I'm glad they continued to make games like this and they seriously improved over the years.
I am with you brother! I think this review was seriously damaged by the preconception of this being bioware brought back
Yes!!!! The only way for them to improve is for us the consumers to support them. I to will buy.
@@nathanscott2871 Yes, this review is quite odd. While I understand some of his points, I think the "scoring" (good, bad, etc) isn't in line with the product. It just sounds like sour grapes because Greedfall isn't quite the height of Bioware's height. It's interesting that he thinks the story is mediocre when the quests are quite complex.
This game is exactly like I thought it would be : disappointing like Technomancer. A small studio trying to compete with AAA. It's enough for some people, especially those who like RPGs like Risen or Gothic.
If One cares only about the Product, its completly irrelevant if it was Made with heart
Andromeda got savaged because of the bad writing, not just the lip sync. Whereas the writing in Greedfall seems very good.
Well.....thats ONE of the reasons
Just started Greedfall last night because of PS+, an hour in, the set up is great imo but I actually said out loud "wow, this game has a serious issue with facial animations, like Andromeda and Horizon Zero Dawn level of issues" lmao
@@kagenotatsumaki HA same here
@@kagenotatsumaki it's very noticeable at first but after a few hours it never really bothered me
@@kagenotatsumaki
Horizon Zero Dawn had some “dead eye” issues from what I remember but characters still looked good. GreedFall’s issues are much worse. Lip syncing is really bad and every character looks like they have dentures. It’s weird. A good game so far though but rough.
I hope the devs see this, take it to heart, and refine refine refine. I'd _LOVE_ an RPG set in what looks like the mid-late 17th century. If it also has piracy elements then I will _mail_ the devs my pants!
Very clever. We all know velifaptors don’t wear pants though
@@whatdoesthisthingdo Never said I wore them ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)
I’d consider myself more of a philosiraptor, personally.
You should play pillars of eternity 2 deadfire if the setting is interesting to you. Similar setting done much better
The camera is drunk, this game is a motion sickness minefield
I feel as though I should buy it just to support the company
Same. If the game flops, there would be no squeal, improved or otherwise.
This is what I did, I've played a couple hours and the game is definitely fun and can see this studio's potential
Please don't. They make crap.
JizzoTheLoneWolf nah this games great and that’s with a max of 30 developers. They deserve support.
Imagine with actual producers who fund them what they can do. They could be the next Bioware. Remember how CD Projekt went from the first Witcher to the 3rd. From janky broken mess to one of the greatest games of all time.
the comment in the thumbnail is the main problem with most modern games. I'd much prefer a game that's all killer, no filler even if it only lasts 10 hours or less. I'm much more inclined to play shorter games that are beast mode from start to finish than I am one that's got a bunch of busywork to pad the playtime out.
That was DOOM 2016 for me, I only spent 8 hours on the first playthrough but loved every second of it
Mostly agree as some games it works like DOOM 2016 but others it doesn't like The Order 1886, however both are better than 95% of what Ubisoft makes...
I enjoyed the first Two Worlds. Any RPG has a chance with me.
The second one is on my top ten and it was a really bad game lol
I liked the first Two Worlds as well. Second Two Worlds wasn't exactly bad either in my opinion, just not as good as the first one :)
I can definitelly live with repeating voice lines and easy combat, might grab the game some time later, when it starts getting discounted.
I think the lip sync might be geared towards Spider's native language. I would like to see the comparison to the French lip sync.
Its really obviously not because to talk properly your lips have to form all sorts of shapes and close together. You can watch an NPC talk without their lips even touching
I'm thinking they same thing. Sorta like the only mo capped their native language and are just dubbing over it. (Like what Sega did with Judgement)
Life is strange was another french game with some terrible lip sync, especially painful in the last few chapters.
I was really worried when I saw the camera angles away from mouth movement amd the few instances where we got to see them were terrible.
And I dont feel it is a French thing BTW it is a development thing.
Grasping at straws.
If they did lip sync to French, that would be fucking stupid.
First 10 seconds of review - "I cannot recommend this game"
Sounds like a Spiders game, count me in! *Buys it immediately*
That does it. This review finally proves what I've suspected all along... Our tastes in games differ almost completely. That said, I'll continue to follow you because I enjoy your content and I think you're a very talented games journalist. Sorry you didn't enjoy the game, hope there's a sequel and it fixes enough of your gripes!
Dude right? It's like, imagine this actually being a 5-10 hour game lol. It's a fucking great rpg
*Ps plus gang rise up...*
Hell yeah
The price is right
any good?
@@johnjones8026 my experience is the combat is atrocious. It’s not fun. But that’s the same with Skyrim, it’s passable schlock so you can get the story. The story is fun, and seems interesting. Haven’t completed the game yet so we’ll see. Before I expand in combat I’d like to preface by saying I’m not gamer expert. I can barely complete Divinity 2 on normal difficulty, XCOM I can’t even complete on easy, I’ve completed soulsborne (except Demons and Dark souls Remastered). My problem with the combat is that (I play on hard, can be different for other difficulties) that I’m incentivized to play like a little bitch. I get knocked over all the time so using anything other than magic attacks, traps and guns is just impossible. I know I can upgrade my armor to not topple as easily but why would I waste a ton of resources and skill points when I can jump around with magic attacks and be even more efficient? I’m incentivized to not be first in. And the parry system is horrible. There is no block, only a parry. I’m not against this at all. Bloodborne did parry system really well. But here it’s really bad. You either chain parry like 4 mobs in a row or you’re knocked down and there’s no way to guarantee you do parry when you’re attacked by mobs. I feel like the combat overall is a poor execution of Dragon Age: Inquisition.
The multi choice narrative is kinda cool but it misses. On one hand you get skills to unlock different paths but the problem is that this is kinda inconsistent. You have two ways of changing dialogue (percentage check or observation level check) but these are seldom applied at the same time so one feels like kind of a waste until you really want it. The sneak aspect is a massive failure considering you can just pick up armor and then skip the entire sneaking. The crafting aspect is cut off by every merchant sells the thing you need. It’s kinda cool that you can blow up weak walls but why would you when you can just wear the right type of armor and you can skip the entire thing.
This leads to the skill tree. Jesus I hate that skill tree. For combat it doesn’t do much except “deal more damage” and “use less mana” or “stun some enemies”. The dialogue that are super important but you get so few points you kinda resign to accepting you have to bribe every NPC at some point.
The voice acting is horrible. Like at some point it’s laughably bad. Your first sidekick has a mission and the VA just phones the entire thing in. Don’t go into this game expecting Uncharted 4 levels, or even Nier: Automata.
The travel system is pretty good. I like that you have a camp between worlds where you can modify your team. You can also talk with your allies in that camp and yeah. Well done all around.
Visuals are pretty passable up until now. Nothing that made me go “oh shit. This is as pretty as FF7RE”. They get the job done and some of the more difficult monsters look awesome tho.
I’ve experienced a lot of bugs on PS4. A couple gamebreaking, my first crash today and loads of texture issues. I’d recommend saving often, never put the game on rest mode and always save before fights and important conversations.
All in all this is at the bottom of games you should play. Like if you have anything good you want to play then I’d play that game instead. But if you if you want to scratch the Kingdom Come: Deliverance itch it’s a nice game. If you feel the need for some Victorian era fantasy Bloodborne is way better. RPG I’d play divinity 2 instead.
Late buh here
So many different opinions on this one! ACG said the game was well worth a buy and really enjoyed it. Meanwhile the Escapist magazine hated it like the plague and wanted nothing to do with it. I have a strong feeling that this is going to be a very divisive game, with some people loving it and some people hating it.
Seeing as I have disagreed with your views in the past (Days Gone especially), I think I'm gonna go with ACG on this one and give it a shot anyways. Still really appreciate the video though!
I knew this game looked too good to be true. Which is a shame.
However that leaves more time for Remnant: from the ashes.
By the way, when is Sekiros review?
Twisted Films I really wish I saw more comments like this on reviews. We all have different tastes but should be able to stay civil. 👍
Twisted Films
Agree with your comment completely days gone was amazing and ACG has rated greedfall high, you have to remember this is a small studio as well.
@@eagz8667 i found days gone to be boring and a shore to play.
@@seriousjokar6237 more time?? Wasn't there enough time to go through the game at least 4 times solo??
I watched this review when it came out and decided that I might some day try Greedfall. And I did buy it on a PSN sale, but several months still passed by. But I've now played 24 hours of this game and I LOVE it.
I really really like it so far. About 10h in. I like the old school rpg feeling in that game. For me it is totaly worth and I can recommend it.
To be fair you aren't the intended audience for this review. It's for people undecided. Where as you are a day 1 purchaser. And were already completely sold on the premise before this review.
Same here, really enjoying it. But some criticisms are valid. I agree more with ACGs review on this one, but I knew it was going to be a bit divisive.
Ppl who play SPIDERS games..play for the story and experience. I was sold the minute I saw SPIDERS and TAKE HOME INTERACTIVE.
@@rooseveltborden6150 Isn't it Focus Home Interactive?
@@endoroboto hell...I dont remember. But I'm pretty sure its Take Home....dont hold me to it tho
I came here for confirmation bias. You didn't deliver. I will now criticize your ability to review, recommend someone else, promptly dislike the video and purchase this game just to spite you.
Just kidding mate, thanks for being honest. Keep up the good work!
There's several comments that say this without the sarcasm, which makes this one perfect.
Youve made the correct choice.
Sometimes, things that gripes on a reviewer doesn't grind another person's gears. Like the length of a game for example. Sometimes even, a negative for a reviewer is a positive for a viewer and vice versa.
Confirmation bias, I'd say is a valid way for us viewers to analyse a review. But it is best when you watch several different reviews to get all the perspectives and see which one personally aligns with your own interests.
Hence why I don't bother with the numbers in all reviews.
So don't get all hissy when people comment their own opinions to agree with or counter the reviewer's.
When I watch this game, it just wants me to reinstall Dragon's Dogma.
Dragon's Dogma Online needs a western release and Dragon's Dogma itself deserves a sequel.
@@HaosOnline Shit.
@@HaosOnline Dragon's Dogma Online 2??
@@65firered sadly no they have no plans on anything dragons dogma so far
Edit: at least that we know so far
@@HaosOnline I figured, I didn't hear anything about it.
Lets find a middle ground
between skill and acg
ill wait for the sale (i am poor anway so its win win)
@INFINITECLOCKWORK Rantoni Pepperoni Megalodoni ♥
skill.acg, rantoni my holy trinity
@@DevenThaDude-xb2tm Would you kind lad, go and watch that said video and not read about it, i just did watch and he said "wait for sale" clearly. : ) . go to video and hit 16:50. it was my pleasure
- Extra read
p.s we need to understand that both our favorite youtubers take different approach and as far as i am aware specially with newer reviews acg gives his total reasoning for the said "rating" you even have prons and cons after 20min long video of him going in depth as to say "shotgun sounds"
and you need to remember that in the end of the day acg strongest grade is "fun factor" to finish this Ted talk, reviews are never to be trusted blindly, that`s why i watch both Acg, Ranton and Skill (not to mention upper echelon gaming and legacykillahd). *You can never have enough of information*
Here's some better advice, don't buy Greedfall at all. Save up your money for the Witcher 3 when it goes on sale again. Or buy Cyberpunk 2077.
@@zztzgza witcher 3 is already a must have, so that advice is 4years old ( for goty edition alone) 2077 is next year so.. not bad advise but
Sale ain't a bad idea, grab it on PC if your rig is hefty enough for it. More sales on that platform.
Spider has gotten better and better with each release. I need my Bioware fix and, as Bioware has forgotten why people used to buy their games, Spider is stepping up and trying to fill the void they left. While Spider continues to evolve, I will support that journey. This isn't magnanimity-- I'm investing in them for greater and greater entertainment returns with the understanding that "Rome wasn't built in a day." Bound by Flame, I barely remember, but I liked Technomancer- played it to the end and enjoyed it. If Greedfall is better than that, then Spider is heading in the right direction and I'm happy to support them. I will be purchasing 2 copies of Greedfall (1 as a gift). Don't get me wrong, however, as I still appreciate Skill Up's frank analysis.
ChandlerUSMC I felt the same way with Technomancer. Really cool ideas from this studio that I keep wanting to see more of. It’s on my list of Christmas presents I’d like for me (budgeting time and money is a thing) but not all games are created equal and heart matters as much as flash and polish.
i dunno, i felt technomancer pretty mediocre, and in many ways, its more of the same level of bad as bound by flame. this one is clearly the best they have ever done. but its still not good enough. lets just hope they evolve again in the next one, instead of making another misfire.
I've played between 10-15 hours and I'm loving it. Just saying.
How could you enjoy the combat? I’m either toppled or shooting magic and dodging like I’m a super sayan
after playing the pc port of this game and doing as much as i can, and playing about 35 hours.... i personally loved it. it felt more like i was playing FONV. i had to make sure i wasn't screwing up who i had with me, making damn sure i had the skills i needed for that faction and even my own combat style (which was game breaking because of fucking course guns are going to be busted as hell), and i loved the story and interactions the characters had. yes, i had mechanical nit picks like fast travel being locked behind campfires and globes, as well a few moments of "oh come on you literally just went through an entire ark that deals with what your commenting on in a hateful mannor!" but everyone felt real, and for the time i was with them, those companions felt like people who actually grew. it was worth it for me, even if i didn't like the back and forth foot work i had to do, but being fair, back in the day it was either do the foot work yourself, or send a letter. and as a broker of peace, i had to do that footwork when fast travel wasn't around.
I’ve decided to purchase the game myself as I’ve been very eager to get my hands on this game and formulate my own opinion.
However, I’m very thankful this video has managed my expectations. Great review, SkillUp
Just do what I did and "demo it". I ended up finishing it, but felt that it wasn't quite worth the price, so I'll support it on sale later.
The reason for this is hard to explain, but Spiders games always have something special that draws you in, so that's why I recommend you try it, you might like far more then skillup did. Many people do.
What I'm finding after sifting through reviews and impressions, is... if you primarily enjoy ARPGs, you will probably enjoy GREEDFALL. If you play and enjoy AA (and "Euro jank") games like VAMPYR and GOTHIC, you'll probably enjoy GREEDFALL. If you are a solid AAA gamer who only dips into the RPG world with Elder Scrolls, you'll probably be disappointed with GREEDFALL. I don't mean any disrespect but it just seems like SkillUp wasn't reviewing the game for what it is... but criticizing it for what it isn't. Too high expectations? And then to hope for a sequel? No, IMHO SkillUp bought into hype and then couldn't enjoy anything except a new AA darling ascending to the "Bioware" AAA crown. I still enjoy the reviews here, but seeing a decided difference in taste (and possibly objectivity) on this genre (or even sub-genre).
@HighSeas I still think SkillUp is a great reviewer but I just think he treated this game a bit unfairly. ACG, Yong Yea, and others seemed to be a bit more understanding of what the game is... and isn't. But... maybe it's just not SkillUp's thing? Or maybe I just love Euro-jank (which I do)? Anyway, seems many others are really connecting with the game warts-and-all and many of the stores near me sold out day 1. Glad to see it.
@@kaipacifica1289 what's Euro jank? Never heard of that term before :)
@@wallacesousuke1433 "Euro jank" is a slang term for European AA games with requisite limited budgets and limited development -- often with a lot of "rough edges" (jank). Sometimes it's used in a derogatory manner, but not always. In fact I love "Euro jank" games; I find that they tend to have "heart" and a level of ambition that the stagnent, complacent AAA gamespace lacks.
@@kaipacifica1289 oh, thanks for the info, I also find appeal in non-AAA games, especially indie and Japanese games, but Imma look into some Euro "jank" ge, that may have not appeared on my radar (Greedy fall is already in my list)!
@@wallacesousuke1433 like Greedfall, you can always check out Vampyr, Technomancer, Elex, the Risen series, even early CDPJR titles (Witcher 1) to name a few modern titles that I guess could be considered under the Euro-Jank moniker. Mostly a lot of openish world RPGs with lower budgets but tries their best to be larger budget presentation. Spiders and Piranha Bites being the more known developers.
It's a 2A-game, and you keep comparing it to AAA games, with vastly more money, manpower, and resources. Hell the fact that you're even comparing it to some of the Best RPG's ever created and saying... "Yeah, it's kinda okay, but it's not THOSE..." Is one not a reasonably fair comparison, and two, if you understand its a 2A game, not a AAA game, going it, that's damn near glowing praise. Because you're basically saying look at the 2A game with as I said les money, manpower, and resources then all these other games, and yet all I can do is compare it to these other games.
This looks to be a good maybe not great, a 7 out of 10 game coming out of an ever stinking middle market.
The only reason it's getting that comparison in the first place is because the genre feels like it's dying and we're all desperate for great new single player wRPG experiences. It's not because of size of studio or expectations. It's because the devs chose to dive into this pool which previously had only been truly explored by the big AAA studios. Smaller teams generally don't attempt this level of cinematics + third person Action RPG combat + deep RPG systems + branching narrative + complex stat checks and choice-based quests ETC. They bit off a huge freaking chunk out of an immense cake and we're all starving.
So yes. The comparison is unfair. But that's what you get when you play this game. Hopefully the studio makes enough cash on this new IP that their next game improves on the concepts that work, and fix the ones that don't.
It's a good first experience, just not a great one.
so lets lay the pain to a low budget dev whose actually trying to provide something, so instead of supporting them, and giving good critical feedback, we tell people not to buy, so they dont have any money to continue.
@@HookahOtaku Reviewer is entitled to his opinion. SkillUp has decided that what the game does right isn't, in his opinion, enough to justify a purchase in light of what it gets wrong.
A lot of other reviewers are glossing over some of these harsh criticisms especially because there's a dearth of good, engaging single-player RPGs on the market right now.
I see no problem in warning people that it's not all roses and rainbows and that there could be caveats to a potential buyer's enjoyment of the game. YMMV and all, but I don't think anything that was said is unfair. It's a product, not the Mona Lisa. To me, the information about the quality of the companions is critical in informing my purchase. That might not apply to you and in that case, kudos, enjoy your purchase, I guess.
I also want the dev to succeed, but I don't have 67 bucks CAD to throw out of a window in order to gamble on their next release.
@@HookahOtaku i know right , just buy the game and they will have more money to make next game even better
@@roelani I see no issue in warning them as well, but with the caveat that this is a middle-market game.
I will purchase this game despite its flaws. There are mixed reviews everywhere but the game isn’t $60 and they are an indie studio. I’ve been waiting for this fame for awhile
Agree, good enough to say its worth supporting and not feel bad about
have some fun
support the indie studio that will become better
gg wp
its 50 in my country, same shit to me
I mean no, it is categorically not $60. Instead it's $64.99, so still not worth it for copypasta levels.
@@manyamaggot yeah it's $49.99 US
Yeah that might explain the issue skillup has with the cut/paste locations in the game, studios with smaller budgets have no choice but to reuse assets and that is one of the dangers of making an rpg as fans of the genre have very high expectations due to the great games already in the genre.
What I take from the review is that it isnt a bad game but dont be expecting The Witcher type quality from it.
this game is a solid 7/10 for me. it felt like i was playing the first dragon age.
edit: the only thing i'll agree with is the lack of mini-map. opening the map every 10 seconds while in the wild was frustrating sometimes.
This game really snuck up on me, I only heard about it for the first time last week, and I usually keep my ear to the ground for this type of thing.
Jesse H. Same thing happened to me with Remant! In a positive way of course
Ay man, just letting you kbow your thumbnails are awesome. I appreciate the non-click bait approach.
Here two years later, because it came up in your news video, to say that I agree with every single one of the criticisms, but still loved the RPG/crafting enough to really enjoy my time with this game. Looking forward to picking up the new content.
Gettin some Kingdom Come: Deliverance vibes here. A lotta promise and high hopes, doesnt quite hit the mark, still potentially good, just not worth $50-$60. Absolute A for effort from a small crew tho.
Kingdom come deliverance was amazing. Just a horrid launch. Got the game during Xbox Christmas sale and the game was amazing
i spent around 100 hours on the game on first play through without finishing it just strolling around and hunting rabbits and get drank. I for one really enjoyed it but the lunch bugs are horrid and it plays sh8t but still la gem nonetheless
KCD hit the mark and more. Its an immense game. Its awfully difficult to make a game with some many mechanics incorporated into a game like KCD and Warhorse nail it. A truly great and proper RPG game
@@machinainc5812 It's great that you can accept extra-ordinary levels of jank and think it exceeds the mark. Congratulations.
@vin 950 dude, it's just $40 because they knew this isn't a AAA title. Not yet at least. Hopefully it will be with a sequel.
Hopes for a sequel but doesn't recommend the game... ain't gonna get a sequel if nobody buys this. 🤣
He's such a dumbass. Money doesn't grow on trees.
@@XenogearsPS Or maybe you're a dumbass because you don't understand that it is possible that you can't recommend a game but still hope the devs do well and improve on where it was lacking.
@@XenogearsPS actually, they do
@@XenogearsPS your point of saying "money doesn't grow on trees" just furthers his point. Why spend $50 on a mediocre game?
@@sold0ut210 STFU, how are they gonna make another game if they're broke. How do you think the witcher series got started? You think their first game didn't suck. If everyone only bought the same run of the mill game because it's the safe thing to do we wouldn't have games that were made awesome in the future.
I cannot explain how much I fucking love this game's aesthetic. Conquistadors, Spanish nobility, and pirates in a fantasy world with long, collared jackets and single-shot flintlock pistols abound, right alongside magic and monsters that threaten colonization efforts. It's impossible for me to convey how much I want a sequel that fleshes out this world and has a much more focused narrative. Given time and competent members of the dev team, I feel like a sequel to this game would be mind-blowing. I JUST NEED MORE MAGIC CONQUISTADORS.
Man, this review broke my heart, not to say it isn't valid. But damn if this wasn't one of my most anticipated titles of the year :'(
You can still buy it, and you should, as much as reviews are important source of knowledge, its not like you wont enjoy it because someone else didnt. Im having an amazing time with it for example.
I would say this: other reviewers are much more positive (take a look at ACG for instance). Spiders is -- as always -- trying to push beyond their AA budgets (and 20 person team) and deserves a look. If they continue on this trajectory, I firmly believe Spiders will be a AAA RPG studio quite soon. The level of Skill Ups criticisms is pretty severe and doesn't seem quite in line with most others.
I'm still intent on picking it up, it's more a case of also recognising how they're striving for something beyond what a normal team their size was going for. They clearly got their systems right, and their visuals on point, but just didn't have the resources to truly flesh out their world and narative. Really excited for other stuff they plan on doing some day
Opinions are subjective. But you all seem to miss one of the main points of a review. For a full priced 60 for an AA game, is it worth it? Is this 30 hour game worth as much as Witcher 3 when it first came out? Brainpower is lacking nowadays.
@@ravagethelegend6217 Firstly, I think you miss the point... Greedfall is not a full-price $60 game. Maybe you didn't know that? Secondly, reviews are subjective -- but should try to be as objective as possible. Why? Because they are ascribing value to a product or service. SU's preoccupations during this review show some strong prejudices and what I consider unfair and unwarranted comparisons to AAA content. I don't dislike SU's content (or Laymen), but this review just doesn't play to his strengths... which IMO seems to be AAA content.
Really? Im having an amazing time with it, honestly majority of your issues seem very small or just plain wrong to me, especially if you know the history and what the game actually is, its odd it doesnt deserve a recommendation when its quite obviously a very, very good role playing game. I personally didnt have any bugs so far, except for a character with closed eyes, no issues with combat aside for occasional jankiness as I got used to it and while you might not like backtracking or asset copying its hardly a big deal, content is there, quests are well written and interesting, areas are samey of course as it is one island but beautiful and well worth exploring and what issues do you have with the pc port? It has been running nearly perfectly for me with ultra settings.
This feels like one of those wrong expectations reviews to me, on top of which you would seemingly be one of the people to say Witcher 3 launched with many bugs even tho in my experience it was an incredibly smooth launch, so is Greedfall.
I love your reviews and usually find myself agreeing with you and even finding out what is it that bothered me in a game when I was unsure myself, but this time I heartily disagree with you.
Greedfall is worthy of a purchase and more than worthy of your time, not quite yet worthy of picking up Bioware's slack, but getting there, closer and closer with each title. Id recommend this on potential alone.
A good guideline is to always keep expectations really low.
Gomna bet my ass people won't do that even with code vein when it comes out because it's been compared to dark souls...
@@iota-09 Agreed, and comparing Greedfall to Witcher and Bioware games isnt going tdo it any favors. Its int he same vein and it truly is a good game imo, but you simply cant expect anything on the same level, at least not yet, from a company with much smaller budget and miniscule staff in comparison. Comparing games should only be taken as far as their similarities go, not just expect the games to be as good, bir or whatever, that is simply unfair.
I will be unfair and say after witcher 3 I have higher standards than this. If devs don't have the funds to deliver maybe they should do something else.
As a reviewer (SkillUp), I think it would be counter productive to just rate something base on potential alone. His main criticism about a story driven title not having a compelling narrative (w/ interesting characters) seems like a pretty huge flaw. That's not something you can blame on lack of resources. I also hate when games don't have enough enemy variety to complement the pacing. Combat and skill progression should be diverse, especially in an RPG. Not tailored to one particular meta or build.
1) Story - World & Characters (including enemies)
2) Combat - Mechanics & Skill Progression
These are just the standards of a good RPG. From my point of view, if Spiders can't nail this stuff down on their smaller scaled titles (like M.A.R.S. and Technomancer), I wouldn't expect them to get it right on their bigger projects.
@@doitlive9214 True, but he can add caviats to a recommendation, as he has done in the past.
And yea, those are truly the most important aspects of a game, I totally agree, however from my experience so far, he is wrong. The story reminds me of Gothic of old, its not an epic tale, a race to save the world from begining to end, but that doesnt make it not intriguing or good, in fact, the story and many of the side quests are played do intrigue me, make sense and promote the enviroments and the specific organizations.
The characters are not on par with Biowares when it comes to depth, that much is true, but to say they arnt interesting or compelling would also be wrong in my eyes, you just do not get a dropdown menu with dozen options as soon as you meet them to get to know them, they do have character and you will get to know them however.
I just find it genuinely harsh to not recommend a game like this to an rpg fan, wouldnt recommend it to any fan of course, but if people were fine with writing and characters in AC Odyssey and hailed it as a somewhat Bioware like game, this should get its chance as well.
Sounds like a 7 out of 10. I can live with that.
Personally I’d give it an onion out of a hamburger at the very least.
7/10s are mamy of my favorite games ever, sounds good to me
Umm he never said that. Sounded more like a 5 out of 10. Considering he mentioned he doesn't recommend it. Way to twist this entire review into your own opinion tho.
@@Dripszzz Woh. Who peed in your cornflakes?
For me personally if a game's physics feel clunky or muddy it is an instant "1/10 will never play."
Getting mixed reviews form different people. Going to give it a go myself and see what I think.
Yeah, no reason not to if you're getting it off of Steam. Got 2 hours to decide if you like it or not.
Did u enjoyed it
I got it in ps plus
Seem ok for now
$50
No Microtransactions
It deserves a Buy just off that alone
I would say 35-40 would be fair, looks awesome but for 50 I expect more
What stupid nonsense, sry
@@Exel3nce Could go on. Single Player. Developers that care.
@@SladeWins Honestly a game with no Microtransactions and a 30 hour plus RPG single player is kind of Rare these days.And it's only $50 on Consoles to.
@@proassassin8473 still nothing new or that rare. Stop thinking only in black and white
It is flawed, but 10 hours in I have enjoyed my time with Greedfall. It is the story and RPG mechanics which truly matters to me and so far it is solid. I've played Spiders' previous games and my expectations weren't too high. I expected a decent AA game and that is what I'm getting and a bit more.
The improvement from Technomancer is just staggering. This developer deserves a chance.
I just got this game for free from the PS store and started playing it last night. I'm a few hours into it but I'm liking it so far although I do find the character customization a little lacking. I hope they do make a sequel to this game because it has so much potential.
First of all: Thank you for the review and all the work that went into it. I've waited, till I finished the game myself, to view this video, in case of unintentional spoilers. @SkillUp To be perfectly clear: I like most of the stuff you put out there and think you have a really good understanding of the video game industry and its products. That being said, I do not agree with your conclusion on this game, which is why I post this "small" comment as to hopefully give whoever wants to read it another point of view to consider before condemning this game, as it CAN be (not is) a fantastic experience.
Yes, many of the problems you pointed out are certainly there, like facial animations, hiccups in combat and enemy variety. But on the other hand, stuff like story, companions and even the length of the game have felt very satisfactory, even great to me (yes, I know that all this sounds just like my subjective opinion, but hear me out). I loved the old Bioware Games and even the never ones like Inquisition and Andromeda (not Anthem though, f**k Anthem). I really hope there will be more games like those in the future and I think Greedfall is one of them, IF you are
A) someone like me, interested in extensive and deep role playing games and willing/able to overlook "smaller" faults ("small", depending on whats important to you) and
B) play it the right way (not necessarily the way intended by the developers). The way I had so much fun while playing Greedfall, was on the one hand certainly because it has been a while since we had such an RPG at our hands, but the main reason has been HOW I played it. If you are looking for something like a delicious diversified 5 star menu, where you just have to sit down and enjoy your meal, then yeah, what Skill Up says in this video is absolutely correct.
If you treat Greefall rather as something like a book though, where things like story, world and characters are delivered to you, but your imagination has to create something out of that in your head, then Greedfall can be amazing. Things like holes in the game, where it gets repetitive, or the rather unattractive facial animations can be compensate by ones own imagination. I know this is something many people wouldn't want to do when they buy a video game and that's ok. Because why make a game then, when you could write a book? Why do pay for this and then having to do part of the developers work for them by imagining an even richer world and deeper characters than those in the game? That being said, I don't use this argument lightly. One could argue that we could do this for every bad game. "JuST iMAginE AlL THe misSiNg StuFF." But I don't think that's the right way. Rather there are some titles from time to time, that because of an amazing worldbuilding or awesome characters or fantastic story, are worth leaning into by putting in a little work of our own.
Keeping this in mind, Greedfall to me is exactly that. It feels like the interpretation a fascinating book, where the developers tried to portrait its contents as an interactive 3D experience, where we, the player, can affect the outcome of the story. And keeping in mind that we are talking about a team of 30 people here, I think they did an amazing job.
So, if you are someone like me and are wondering if Greedfall might be somehting for you: Rest assured. There is plenty of fun to be had here. Nonetheless Skill Up is not wrong about many faults of this game and there are certainly things that have to be overlooked in order to have fun, which I gladly did for this small team, as I got one of the best games of the last years for me in return. As a conclusion I'd like to go along with Skill Up in that I really really REALLY hope, that there will be a sequel to this game. I hope this short review helps some of you and thanks again for the video :)
I have no idea how someone can "imagine the missing parts" in a game. People often say this for bad movies and at least then you can read some mediocre fan fiction or extended content that's semi official. But with a game how can you simply "imagine" what's not there? How can fighting the same boss 4 times be exaggerated to something better in your head?
@@evanhenderson9461 I think you could compare it to fan fiction. The difference being I didn't write any of it down while playing or after. It's just stuff I interpreted in the world, the characters and the relationships that weren't explicitly shown or told but "could" be there. A bit like scify, where authors use the grey areas in our understanding of physics to imagine something like travelling faster than the speed of light or wormholes. I found the world they were painting fascinating, yet sadly a bit empty from time to time. Like stuff and people were missing and barely any NPC was turely interacting with the world, most of them just standing around. It was more fun imagining a wild buzzing island: hunters in the forest, caravans travelling from town to town, native abushes and so on. All that was talked about but we never really got to see any. Every are was always in a standstill. Also more interaction with your party. Sure, you can talk to them from time to time, but they always use the same voice lines and romances felt especially hollow. For this I like Dragon Age Inquisition far better, where you could still flirt with your paramour, even after having finished their romance side plot. Of course most of this is due to the budget and team being rather small, but the underlying worldbuilding was amazing. I truely wish for a second part with more content and depth. Sadly for this one players have to depend on their own ficition if they want more depth than there is.
This game is incredible. The problem is the scope of peoples expectations. This is easily Spiders greatest title, yes there is tons of copy and paste work and clunky camera and combat. But when you realize the size of the dev team and the fact that this is a story driven game, all the unimportant flaws go out the window. This game makes you feel like a diplomat in a way you never thought you wanted. They delivered a $50 game that is incredibly intriguing and making me excited for a 2nd playthrough. There are no catches, micros, or Triple A studio excuses. They put out a full game with new rpg mechanics and to not play this game or support this company is a mistake.
most people watching this would not even reach until the end of the video where you cover some good points of the game lol should have mentioned some good points at start.
The review is 5-10 great minutes stretched out over 30 minutes
Someone's salty.
been playing their games since bound by flame, and with each game I can see them getting better and better, maybe one day they'll finally get the formula right, but Im glad they even got to this point
I'm not particularly miffed with reviewers individual opinions, if I'm interested in a game I'll play it and see for myself. And for a large part of my time that works out for me. Sure, objectively FFXV isn't great and KH3 is a bit of a disappointment, but I love them. However, I love watching reviews, especially ones like these, because it breaks down various opinions on a game and shows what someone vastly more experienced with the industry than I generally thinks. So yeah, I'm still getting greedfall, but I appreciate the opinions and ideas put forward here. I'm away to watch the ACG review everyone is clamouring on about, but great work as always Ralph!
Preach brother.
I just bought ps4 about a year ago so I missed out on all the hypes surrounding FFXV during the trailer announcement or whatnot. I'm a huge FF fans so I knew then my first ps4 game was going to be FFXV.
Went into the game completely blind > Was blown away by how well it played, and the story! Maaan the bromance definitely hit me deep in the feels.
Went to look up on things (trailers / reviews) that I've missed after finishing the game > I get why people feel cheated and/or the game is not good enough then.
I love how you give us the rundown at the very beginning of the video, saving us time.. Unlike some (ahem) "other" channels who hide their score in the video to get us to watch the whole thing, you tell us straight up at the beginning of the vid.. It's going to hurt your watch times but I appreciate it nonetheless.. Good job, guys!
While I do appreciate your honesty in your non-recommendation, given the stagnate pool of what is available, I'm probably going to buy this game at the end of the month.
All the grips put forward I can completely live with if it means I can play a single player, RPG, with an interactive story where I can create my own character. There's such a void of this kind of game in the markets right now that I can live with a flawed experience over the half-baked crap we've been getting.
At least this game wasn't designed to suck the money from my freaking wallet.
You are my go to video reviewer your content is the best. I watch reviews of yours on games I haven't even heard of and/or care about. Keep up the tremendous work playa.
It is not a AAA game with AAA budget backed by a huge company. But a small AA game made by small indie company. So your expectations itself is wrong.
I'm going to support this game. Hopefully the studio can grow or at least be able to add content down the line.
Guys remember this is a small studio Skill up gives a fair review here but I’d recommend looking at multiple differing reviews and go from that, ACG gives a decent contrast if anyone is interested.
I really don't give a fuck about what SkillUp says. He's a British wank.
@@tosgys2097 why are you here then lol? Give him free view?
Because I usually watch his videos. He didn't like it but I really don't care. I'm still buying it because I wanna support Spiders.
Eagz acg is garbage though
omensoffate that’s a matter of opinion
This whole review is extremely reminiscent of how i felt with the Witcher 1. If this studio keeps with this franchise, and expands upon its good features and fixes the faulty ones, they really could have a breakout franchise. Witcher 2 put CDProjectRed on the map. Maybe Greedfall 2 will do the same for Spyder.
It may be a little thin and janky here and there, but it's nice to see this sort of RPG come out, it's been awhile. I kind of want to support the developers for continuing to improve on their past efforts, and also appreciate no micro-transactions, or other BS that has gotten so out of control
I personally believe everyone's expectations with Greedfall were way too high. This is not a AAA developer, this is a middle market french developer trying their best with great ideas despite a low budget.
If you look at Spiders games one by one, and if you've been playing them all like i have, you'll see this is a huge improvement on the ones that came before despite the obvious growing pains of finally making a full blown "open world" RPG. I'm loving it so far because i went into Greedfall expecting a better effort from Spiders and in that way they absolutely succeeded.
As for the lip syncing Mass Effect Andromeda got crucified for the overall poor animation quality with the faces, lips, overall movement being bad as well as seriously poor dialogue at times. Like that time the two krogans got into a fight and it looked like a couple of action figures slapping each other. Not JUST the lip syncing and that was a full price AAA developed game so of course consumers expect better.
This is a BUDGET game made by a BUDGET developer and the lower price reflects that.
That being said Skills points are absolute fair, especially in regard to the repetition and bugs (Spiders games are full of bugs on launch) , but it's just not fair to go into Greedfall expecting the "new Dragon Age" or " new Elder Scrolls". If THAT'S what you expected you were only setting yourself up for disappointment.
Temper your expectations people.
I never really cared about lip syncing and facial animations in RPGs. Andromeda just had an awful cast of characters with awful dialogue and a storyline which seemed that even the writers did not care about.
Greedfall is a budget game made ony by about 30 people. People should not expect AAA quality. It's a AA game. It seemed to me that Ralph expected AAA quality from this. It's completely unrealistic considering Spiders' previous game Technomancer. Massive improvement over Technomancer, 10 hours in and I cannot believe this is the same developers from The Technomancer.
Finally getting to this and i couldn’t disagree more. This is top tier AA gaming. A story doesnt need a big baddy to be good. The story is about the situations and life that happens around the main crew. I love it. Its very personal and relatable
I see such a vast array of opinions. As someone who did enjoy it what games would you compare it to and the pros and cons contrasting them?
5-10min review stretched over 30min. I really wanted to like this review, but sadly can't recommend.
Salty aren't you lol
I feel like you’re one of the only ones who doesn’t recommend this game. I own it but it’s rough around the edges but as far as questing goes its very very good
Spiders is definitely a dev team that puts a ton of heart into their games. That can’t be denied. They manage to turn out solid games that accomplish why they try to do, at their core. The issue is that you can see the size of the dev team come to a fault with the technicals of the game. Greedfall is a game with massive promise. Massive. I’d love to see what they could do with a dev team twice the size and a budget twice the size. I always buy spider games simply because you can always see how much heart and passion they put into the games, regardless of how flawed they are.
Okay but like, 60% of witcher 3 was the same drab greens and browns of Velen, 10% copypasted city/townscapes, and 30% Skellige. And I won't complain about that, because it made sense. It was a fantastical world that was grounded in reality.
Greedfall takes place on a single island, right? Why on earth would there be drastically different vistas when it's clear they were really trying to embody that same Witcher 3 realism.
i think he meant the other way around, he wanted the story to be more compact. as in, instead of 3 diferent cities, make it a single, but more diverse one, instead of 20 or so fields looking the same, add more variety, it doesnt need to go from a volcano to a frigid snowy plain, but more variety in the feel of the enviroment( more caves, rivers, lakes, things like that to make it feel more expansive). and finally the enemy variety.
i mentioned this in a diferent post, all this could be aliviated if it focused less on trying to be realistic. as in, the graphics, had they gone with something more cartoony, or even something like a stylized HQ ps2 game, they would be able to add much more to their game.
I like how the only way you can defend this game is too compare it to an older game.
Also for the fact you can't excuse the invisible walls and the environment tricking you into thinking the map is bigger than it is.
@@mariobadia4553
It's called precedent. The lack of environment variation directly compares to Wild Hunt.
Marcos Danilo
I won't excuse the lack of enemy variety, and I definitely would've preferred a more stylized artistic approach
@@Scuuurbs you know it would be cool to have a Witcher Easter egg if there was two random civilians talking about seeing this white haired girl before seeing her disappear in a flash of green light.
1 year later. Played it. Beat it. And genuinely enjoyed it. Does it have issues? Sure. But by far Spiders best title to date
I don't know man, i respect your opinion but it looks pretty stylish to me especially considering its not a triple A game, i also don't care about the lip sync in the slightest.
I know its not a masterpiece but i'm still getting it, after completing the Witcher 3 a couple years ago i'm starving for a aRPG in this style.
i have skipped other spider games but im in on this one. They are working their butts of to put out a half decent game .
@@THANE_MITHRA Agree 100% !
@@SoundwormBite Greedfall looks rock solid. Try out ELEX sometime, I far preferred it to The Witcher 3.
@@warmlycalculated390 I think it depends what you want from a game. Witcher 3 is more narratively driven. ELEX is more an exploration game. I enjoyed both.
@@warmlycalculated390 Thanks mate, Elex is on my list i'm gonna play it for sure!
I'll just give up on the Sekiro review, never coming out
Let it go. Ain't happenin'
Lisandro Rincon everyone played and suffered from Sekiro already xD no need for reviews
@Jaffacus 9/10*
@Jaffacus you're right
Will it get dlc tho thats the most important question
Id recommend it! narrative is great and the amount of options you can take are crazy. Companions are interesting and combat is pretty fun
Just finished the game. Take me 60 hrs to complete with all quests done.
I like it, but the constant back and forth became more and more annoying, the areas of the game are more or less the same.
The devs did a great game with the money they had but you can feel the constrains. As I played it long after release, I didn't experience any bugs.
And that's funny, lypsinc is indeed not very good, but I didn't even care that much.
Still worth a try, especially on a discount.
19:20 - to me as a player that also renders any idea/ immersion of exploration moot. Then why even create vast landscapes, if they cannot be explored?
Because big maps are mandatory since Skyrim, it's a cheap way to make a game longer. But most games don't bother actually putting interesting stuff in the world, it's big for the sake of being big. Here they even prevent you from exploring that because they had nothing to put there.
I don't really mind the "corridors", but it seems they need to learn how to hide their invisible walls.
The sense of exploration is still there.
You can lose yourself going into caves and corridors. Early in the game I accidentally stumbled into a nest for one of the island creatures that promptly handed me my ass for about 40 minutes ( playing on the hardest difficulty)
I can tell skill up played on normal or easy, which is a mistake. This game shines at the hard difficulties
Thanks so much! You really helped me simplify my game buying options with this review. To bad it wasn’t that great. I’m excited for them to improve on everything and keep what they did right!
This is another Witcher 1 situation. A game with heart that is mostly limited by the lack of experience of the developers. I hope FX Interactive (the publisher) gives them another chance and we get a much better game in a few years.
What makes the Witcher 1 unique is that it tells a better story than most AAA games. Even with its flaws, the story made the first WItcher special to me. Also, it was 2007. Video games have changed a lot since. For 2007, Witcher 1 was very good. Hasn't aged well though. You can't really compare it to Greedfall. This isn't Spiders' first game either.
Also disagree with Ralph with this review. He isn't treating Greedfall as a AA game.
considering this is a AA game and not a AAA game I personally think it has enough content and the content that it does have is great
Idk man. It's still $50 and BL3 is coming out. Might pick that up on the PS4. Also Remnant is getting some content drop on the 19th.
And yet its still 50 bucks
Have you seen FromSoftware lip syncing though?
Well, at the moment the only game that has full animated dialogues is Sekiro, and in my opinion it was a very good work. Only for notice, did you play that game in english?
10h in - LOVE IT! Setting, artstyle, NO GODDAMN FETCH QUESTS, customization etc. Game is rough around the edges but MY GOD it's addicting and well written.
Not to mention that it's without ANY microtransactions, no season pass (hell, Spiders even said that there are no DLCs planned. Everything is in the base game) and it's cheaper than 60$
One of my favorites this year - another great surprise after Control.
ACG and you have been on different wavelengths recently. ACG recommended Control and wait for sale on remnant. You did the opposite.
I think he only said to wait on a sale for Remnant due to the bugs--otherwise, it seemed like he really enjoyed it.
ACG was critical about basically the same things. Excessive copy paste environment, combat doesn't have much variety and quickly becomes extremely easy on the hardest setting.
It's almost as if reviews are just a person's opinion and are completely subjective 🤔
Whaaaaaaaat?? Two different reviewers have two different opinions??? Never!
Yeahhhhh... They have the SAME opinion about the things that are wrong with the game.
Why does every game has to be an open world?
@Bob Brock It was fun the first 20000 times.
MadOrange644 because it's a fashion???I personaly prefer mostly nowadays the semi open worlds adventure/rpg...😁
There's still plenty of linear corridor games if that's your forte.
this is dao style open world... works for me.
@@azerohiro That's false.Even stuff like TLOU,Halo,Gears of War ,God of war etc all of them are open world or have open world segments.
Do you reccomend it as a PSPlus monthly title?
I always appreciate the effort and thought behind your videos, which is why I'll keep watching. Thanks
Chill guys. I'm sure everyone has bought a "bad" game based on a review. There's just no reviewer that going to share the same opinion as you on everything so it's good to listen to more than one.
Great review as always. I always found myself enjoying Spiders games for some reason. I finished all of them, bugs/jank and all. I always say the same thing after each of them... "damn... They were so close to making something good, but they just missed the mark". So I think Skillup is trying to say the same when referring to a sequel. One thing I appreciate is the freshness Spiders bring to the industry with their stories and how they make multiple game worlds instead of sequel after sequel of the same game.
Recommends Skyrim and Dragon Age Origins complains about lip sync in Greedfall.........bruh
I bought this game mainly to support the developers. I'm about 5 hours in and so far i like it. I think that for small studio like Spiders the game is very polished and overall a very good rpg experience.
That's funny because ACG recommended this game highly!! Still going to play this game tomorrow.
Yeah some don't like it and some seem to enjoy it. ACG even said the questing is some of the best. I was going to get it anyway unless it was absolute rubbish since im desperate for a decent rpg.
no one can predict if you will like a game except you yourself
@@jhon1406 there are a lot of people who buy the games just because ACG says it is a buy or this reviewer says it is good.
@@johnnyjets2343 that is so funny + sad to me lol
Kinda not surprised considering that Spiders is a developer that has creative ambitions but lack of polish in their games suffers for it. Always worth checking them out when they go on sale.
I´m so glad I did not watch this review before. bc for me this game is amazing for the funds they had for making it. This is the ultimate ambassador simulator.
Recently started playing greedfall and although most of what he says is true on the surface level there is something intangible that overpowers all those shortcomings. It's fun. Really fun. Limitation of budget seems to be the biggest problem for most of the issues for the scale of what the game tries to accomplish. But there is something about it that you cant put it down.
I feel like your expectations were too high going in, it's still very much a "Spiders" game.
How i see it, if the game devs keep up the momentum of improving their games as they are now, i believe they can make a better game in the future. They just have to keep learning from their mistakes and keep improving.
I find it distracting to have a minimap in an openworld RPG like The Witcher or Horizon, so I played both with only a compass (modded for TW3) that told me the general direction of objectives when I felt like it.
This lets me explore the world without taking my eyes away from the scenery. Too much time is spent looking at arrows, maps and minimaps in those games, it's a shame.
HOWEVER ! GreedFall isn't an open world RPG, in this game the Minimap makes more sense since you can just say "well if it's not there I just take another route and get to my objective from the side", you actually have to follow a set path to reach areas of the map.
That's why I used the minimap in TW3 only when I was looking for specific NPCs in towns where the layout mimics a corridor-based RPG.
You'd know if you used the mini maps, and especially since you use the compass, you only glance down to see if you're on the right path. We aren't staring intensely at the map to find the next objective, just to get a bearing on where we're supposed to go. You can still take in the scenery while galloping down a road.
@@Fernisvale
I've been using minimaps for as long as I can remember, and it's only since I've stopped using them recently (say a year or two ago) that I truly started savoring the virtual worlds.
You talk about galloping, when my playstyle is more "slowly trotting or walking" to my destination, only using fast travel to a point when I have visited everything between point A and point B.
But you are right in the sense that this only caters to my personal playstyle and how I like to interact with a world :)
To be fair, you do say it's still a good game. I think this is what we should be focusing on, not whether you should recommend or not - if the game is okay, that's a buy. That to me is what is important, Spider is barely known in the industry so this footprint getting enough attention to influence a sequel might help boost the sequel.
This game was very good for me. YES you can see that 40 people made this game with little budget but it was better RPG game then cyberpunk.. If this game had atleast 50 mil budget would have exploded. But i dont think there will be a sequel and its a shame.
Should have recommended the game if you want a sequel. They are TRYING to make a good ARPG in old Bioware-style. This game is ALMOST there. If it does well then an even better sequel is very likely. This studio is getting better with each game they create. Normally I would wait for a sale but I really want to start supporting studios that create single player games with no microtransactions.
This. A million times this. It’s on us as the consumer to try and fix what’s happened to the gaming industry by supporting studios like these. Cause god knows EA and their like won’t do it. I’ll take this flawed but passionate game over another EA game, polished but soulless and predatory, ANY day..
How is it that my two favorite reviewers are on two opposite sides of the recommendation pool😭😭😭😭
Burney With The Mac means its a borderline case- like vampyr
Cody Vandal I adored vampyr for what it was ! Combat was pretty eh but the vampire and social elements were too good to pass on.
@@burney465 The soundtrack and atmosphere in it was so fucking good too
funtourhawk god damn that soundtrack was super fire.
@@burney465 same, i freaking loved vampyr too. enjoyed the hell out of it and never had a buyer's remorse.