Intresting, can you please make a video with using your setting vs other XpD2 setting to show the difference on both test deep targets and also live digs, really interested to see the results 😀😀😀
what happens if you set the discrimination to 0? Does this do away with tone 1 (iron) and everything will come in at tones 2/3 if you are using a 3 tone program. Does discrimination actually affect depth. I heard that only reactivity affects depth. Thanks, Teche Ridge Digger
Thanks for the video. I really enjoyed that. Do you Relic hunt or mainly just park hunt? I’m still trying to figure out the absolute deepest program for Civil War relics, and I keep jumping back and forth between Beach Sensitive and Deep HC. I’ll have to give the Park program a shot.
I hunt for everything but really look for coins. I hunt mainly woods and sometimes venture out to homesites on farms. Relic mode loses depth as the item gets smaller. So it would start missing coins at 10". Deep HC does not lose depth on small items, but even with audio response maxed, items sound softer, so you can miss them.
I understand your concept and somewhat agree with it. I do think you may have a few of the settings reversed. I would think you would want the iron volume as high as it could go. Just thinking logically by setting it to 0 you are making the processor distinguish between ferrous and non ferrous and calculating which to quiet and which to not quiet. Setting it as high as it can go would mean that the detector wouldnt care what it was, every signal would be the same volume. I don't know if that would matter with the discrimination set to -6.4 though as you have removed any iron discrimination anyway. Also I would think you would set the audio response to its highest value, this would mean that every target no matter how deep would have the same audio response. Anything lower would cause the detector to have to figure out which signals need to be higher than others due to size and or depth.
Really enjoy your unique perspectives on the Deus 2. So many people make videos and are just regurgitating the obvious. This actually equips the user with knowledge that they can use and grow with. Would love to hear your thoughts on a setup for finding targets in iron.
I agree with all that you stated. I think you are spot on. But doing this you will loose separation. To me no matter how deep you get the machine to go if there are targets masking a deep coin chances are you won’t find it. What are your thoughts?
I’ve never used park but I see why you’ve based this deep program on it. I have a Tudor coin Spill site. 3 silver coins from the 1500s they were between 8 and 10 inches. The uneven patina on the first one up suggested it had been stuck to others. Found two more 30 centimetres away. We’ve matched the uneven patina on two suggesting they were touching. The third coin has that patina too but doesn’t match the other coins. Suggesting it may have been stuck to a fourth. I’ll go back in park with all fillers off and see how I get on. Thanks 😊
I just got my Deus 2 but I’ve had limited time to hunt with it due to frozen conditions. However like the previous viewer said, when hunting with my equinox 800, I alway ran it wide open with no discrimination at all and would play with the reactivity depending on iron conditions in the ground. The one time I was able to hunt with it, I used the general program as is. I did notice I was hitting a lot of iron targets deep and they sounded good with the “ square” tones, I think it will just take a little getting used to but so far I like it. Great video, keep’m coming!!!
Yeah I like the PWM tones on Deus 2. It sounds like the Notka Anfibio. I think most people like the sound of the equinox, so all the manufacturers are giving that option now.
I would think the plotting and turning on the pixels at high speed with the XY screen would consume more CPU. I wish you could turn the whole screen off except VDI. I think someone made that feature request to XP.
could you make a video using older or less expensive detectors like whites mx7 or garet a lot of us can't afford deus or new detectors--great job . are you saying we should run no discrimination ,high sensitivity, single tone? i know nothing about setting up a detector,i am new at this.
Hi. Unfortunately I only have an Anfibio, an Equinox, and a Deus 2. I have used the Garrett Max. All of the detectors are the same though -- anything you can turn off will result in more CPU time. A good rule of thumb is to start with everything off and then only add back what you need to get your detector to a comfortable level.
Hey Anthony, I'm Joe from Southern Illinois. I hear ya about not being able to afford some of the higher priced detectors, been there. Fortunately I'm much better off now than I was in.my earlier years. And I'm sure you will be as well. I'm retired Law Enforcement And now I'm a full time detectorist. I've detected for many years. I've used about every brand name there is. For general detecting my go to machines are the Deus and the CTX 3030, In that order. But some of my best finds were with an old Bounty Hunter and Garrett Ace 250, GTA 350. My long winded point is two things. One is LOCATION! Don't matter what kind of detector you have if there's nothing in the ground to find. So do some research and talk to people that knows the local history. Second is, TIME SPENT HUNTING! If your not swinging your detector and swinging it meaningfully your not gonna find anything. If you want to increase your finds ,,, try digging everything. I hunt most every day. One day a week I take one of my older detectors with me and set it at zero discrimination, as hot as it will run and I dig everything that beeps. I find a lot of rings doing that. And I still do that today. Several years ago I found enough rings and jewelry over the year to purchase a good used Garrett AT Pro. Don't give up or get discouraged. That's what happens to a lot of new detectorist. They see videos and think they'll find treasures every time they go out. That's not gonna happen tho. I go a week or more sometimes without finding anything real meaningful. And sometimes I find a couple of good items a day for a week. I'd be glad to help in any way. Good luck to ya.
Coinbase program Deus mono 6.1 disc 97 sens 12 khz iron 3 reac 1.5 still very fast Aud resp 6 5 tones 6.1/35/50/76 tone break 202/202/202/725/ 800 square tones notch 0 silencer 0 15" barber dime with ID
Although in theory you might have a point , your whole story is based on the cpu plus memory being to weak for the job. I don't think the experts from Deus build a state of the Art machine lacking cpu capacity nor memory.the filters provide very usable and scalable tools for worldwide environments, you pick what you need. One should leave the holy grail of depth, it's about finding, being able to understand what the detector is telling you. With my 30+ years experience on numerous brands and types i can assure you that maximum depth had not increased a lot in those years, it's the refinement that makes the difference.
Hi. Thanks for your input. The Deus II does not have an unlimited CPU, it is limited by the amount of money the XP engineers had to build the unit. Bean counters at XP said, "Engineers you have X amount of dollars to build a machine with X features." If engineers were allowed to build any detector they wanted to, it would cost $950,000. This is why a company such as Garrett has ten machines at different price points. Bean counters said you have $100 to make an Ace, $300 to make a MAX. Aside from going deeper, any bit of CPU ticks that you can get released from the filters allows the Deus II to be able to process more complex signals such as coin on edge. My method provides both deeper penetration and more time/processing power to process complex signals at both shallow and deep depths.
It’s like my equinox i always run no discrimination it’s goes deeper and I use 5 tones maybe you should Dave that program so you don’t have to keep on setting it up every time you turn on the Deius
Old nails ring up because they have good metal mixed in. I now use a combination of Deep HC and Relic to tell what is iron. I'll be making a video soon.
I can tell you now on those settings in pitch your deus is going to sound off as good target on everything including iron. Pitch needs discrimination to work properly and cranked up like that all you are going to hear is the ground.
Thank you for your input. That is not my experience. However, your mileage may vary. Start with everything off and only turn on the bare minimum to retain as much CPU ticks as possible.
@@hecksyeah5196 I have tested the deus 2 alot of hours especially pitch park which is my go to programme. With -6.4 discrimination iron will sound like a good target, try it .
@@hubsi5263 I agree that's when full tones works the best, but you called full tones would be another filter and that pitch would be the optimum tone to use with no discrimination.
@@nicks3560 Right but that's the deepest setting, which is the point of the video. If you want to start discriminating and making the machine quiet, you lose depth. There are other simple ways to determine if something is iron without any filters if you must but in deep soil you just need to dig more to find more.
Omg I was thinking that is scam .... and turned on my Nokta Simplex ... then blocked VDI from 1-20 . Then I done air test ... difference is 3-4cm more depth without blocked VDI
@@searchingshropshire Well think there is an interesting video here to see who is correct 🤣🤣🤣🤣 so you for the challenge and try his settings verses your finding, pretty please 😀😀😀
You just turned the Deus2 into a pulse induction machine.
Very nice explanation. Thank you.
I hope you will make more videos like this, it was interesting! ty
Thank you! I certainly will!
Intresting, can you please make a video with using your setting vs other XpD2 setting to show the difference on both test deep targets and also live digs, really interested to see the results 😀😀😀
what happens if you set the discrimination to 0? Does this do away with tone 1 (iron) and everything will come in at tones 2/3 if you are using a 3 tone program. Does discrimination actually affect depth. I heard that only reactivity affects depth. Thanks, Teche Ridge Digger
Thanks for the video. I really enjoyed that. Do you Relic hunt or mainly just park hunt? I’m still trying to figure out the absolute deepest program for Civil War relics, and I keep jumping back and forth between Beach Sensitive and Deep HC. I’ll have to give the Park program a shot.
I hunt for everything but really look for coins. I hunt mainly woods and sometimes venture out to homesites on farms. Relic mode loses depth as the item gets smaller. So it would start missing coins at 10". Deep HC does not lose depth on small items, but even with audio response maxed, items sound softer, so you can miss them.
Great explanation
It is something i kinda knew in the back of my mind! More filters less depth! I geuss in some cases this can be helpfull! Thank you for sharing
I understand your concept and somewhat agree with it. I do think you may have a few of the settings reversed. I would think you would want the iron volume as high as it could go. Just thinking logically by setting it to 0 you are making the processor distinguish between ferrous and non ferrous and calculating which to quiet and which to not quiet. Setting it as high as it can go would mean that the detector wouldnt care what it was, every signal would be the same volume. I don't know if that would matter with the discrimination set to -6.4 though as you have removed any iron discrimination anyway. Also I would think you would set the audio response to its highest value, this would mean that every target no matter how deep would have the same audio response. Anything lower would cause the detector to have to figure out which signals need to be higher than others due to size and or depth.
CW....he DID suggest putting the iron VOL up to 5
The filters are there for a reason knocking every filter off to gain depth would not always be the best choice 👍
That's true, but a lot of people just turn them on for "good measure" and that could be hurting them.
I was just thinking about this today.
Really enjoy your unique perspectives on the Deus 2. So many people make videos and are just regurgitating the obvious. This actually equips the user with knowledge that they can use and grow with. Would love to hear your thoughts on a setup for finding targets in iron.
That would be great. 👍🏻
I agree with all that you stated. I think you are spot on. But doing this you will loose separation. To me no matter how deep you get the machine to go if there are targets masking a deep coin chances are you won’t find it. What are your thoughts?
This would be for a clean ground situation
I’ve never used park but I see why you’ve based this deep program on it. I have a Tudor coin Spill site. 3 silver coins from the 1500s they were between 8 and 10 inches. The uneven patina on the first one up suggested it had been stuck to others. Found two more 30 centimetres away. We’ve matched the uneven patina on two suggesting they were touching. The third coin has that patina too but doesn’t match the other coins. Suggesting it may have been stuck to a fourth. I’ll go back in park with all fillers off and see how I get on. Thanks 😊
I just got my Deus 2 but I’ve had limited time to hunt with it due to frozen conditions. However like the previous viewer said, when hunting with my equinox 800, I alway ran it wide open with no discrimination at all and would play with the reactivity depending on iron conditions in the ground. The one time I was able to hunt with it, I used the general program as is. I did notice I was hitting a lot of iron targets deep and they sounded good with the “ square” tones, I think it will just take a little getting used to but so far I like it. Great video, keep’m coming!!!
Yeah I like the PWM tones on Deus 2. It sounds like the Notka Anfibio. I think most people like the sound of the equinox, so all the manufacturers are giving that option now.
Is there is a difference between XY and Horseshoe screens. I like the XY to discriminate from the visual.
I would think the plotting and turning on the pixels at high speed with the XY screen would consume more CPU. I wish you could turn the whole screen off except VDI. I think someone made that feature request to XP.
Have you tried your settings in the field?
Yes. Others have too.
could you make a video using older or less expensive detectors like whites mx7 or garet a lot of us can't afford deus or new detectors--great job . are you saying we should run no discrimination ,high sensitivity, single tone? i know nothing about setting up a detector,i am new at this.
Hi. Unfortunately I only have an Anfibio, an Equinox, and a Deus 2. I have used the Garrett Max. All of the detectors are the same though -- anything you can turn off will result in more CPU time. A good rule of thumb is to start with everything off and then only add back what you need to get your detector to a comfortable level.
Hey Anthony, I'm Joe from Southern Illinois. I hear ya about not being able to afford some of the higher priced detectors, been there. Fortunately I'm much better off now than I was in.my earlier years. And I'm sure you will be as well. I'm retired Law Enforcement
And now I'm a full time detectorist. I've detected for many years. I've used about every brand name there is. For general detecting my go to machines are the Deus and the CTX 3030, In that order. But some of my best finds were with an old Bounty Hunter and Garrett Ace 250, GTA 350. My long winded point is two things. One is LOCATION! Don't matter what kind of detector you have if there's nothing in the ground to find. So do some research and talk to people that knows the local history. Second is, TIME SPENT HUNTING! If your not swinging your detector and swinging it meaningfully your not gonna find anything. If you want to increase your finds ,,, try digging everything. I hunt most every day. One day a week I take one of my older detectors with me and set it at zero discrimination, as hot as it will run and I dig everything that beeps. I find a lot of rings doing that. And I still do that today. Several years ago I found enough rings and jewelry over the year to purchase a good used Garrett AT Pro. Don't give up or get discouraged. That's what happens to a lot of new detectorist. They see videos and think they'll find treasures every time they go out. That's not gonna happen tho. I go a week or more sometimes without finding anything real meaningful. And sometimes I find a couple of good items a day for a week. I'd be glad to help in any way. Good luck to ya.
The programs Relic and Goldfield are near to your program, just reduce the reactivity...
Coinbase program
Deus mono
6.1 disc
97 sens
12 khz
iron 3
reac 1.5 still very fast
Aud resp 6
5 tones
6.1/35/50/76 tone break
202/202/202/725/
800
square tones
notch 0
silencer 0
15" barber dime with ID
That's a great setup. I am going to add this program to my Deus 2. Thanks for sharing.
@@hecksyeah5196 Its Deus Mono platform, 12kz hits harder than 17kz
if you're setting the bottom 3 tones to the same (202), 725, 800 why not just use 3 tones?
@@impact9801 So you can have them on standby and introduce them as needed
@@DirtDynasty It may hit harder but has less sensitivity to small non ferrous targets..
Although in theory you might have a point , your whole story is based on the cpu plus memory being to weak for the job. I don't think the experts from Deus build a state of the Art machine lacking cpu capacity nor memory.the filters provide very usable and scalable tools for worldwide environments, you pick what you need. One should leave the holy grail of depth, it's about finding, being able to understand what the detector is telling you. With my 30+ years experience on numerous brands and types i can assure you that maximum depth had not increased a lot in those years, it's the refinement that makes the difference.
Hi. Thanks for your input. The Deus II does not have an unlimited CPU, it is limited by the amount of money the XP engineers had to build the unit. Bean counters at XP said, "Engineers you have X amount of dollars to build a machine with X features." If engineers were allowed to build any detector they wanted to, it would cost $950,000. This is why a company such as Garrett has ten machines at different price points. Bean counters said you have $100 to make an Ace, $300 to make a MAX. Aside from going deeper, any bit of CPU ticks that you can get released from the filters allows the Deus II to be able to process more complex signals such as coin on edge. My method provides both deeper penetration and more time/processing power to process complex signals at both shallow and deep depths.
I made one of these programs we will see how it goes.
I don’t use park program in parks I use a custom sensitive program.
It’s like my equinox i always run no discrimination it’s goes deeper and I use 5 tones maybe you should Dave that program so you don’t have to keep on setting it up every time you turn on the Deius
Thanks for the message. You can save the settings as a custom program on the Deus 2.
Whit FMF program, how many hours work your coil ? My Deus2 only 5,5 hr.......
10 hr..
But how about misshaped iron and old nails? They will ring up in non ferrous scale.
Old nails ring up because they have good metal mixed in. I now use a combination of Deep HC and Relic to tell what is iron. I'll be making a video soon.
My glass eye fell asleep
And of course Multi frequency takes more processing than single frequency hence single frequency has more depth .
LOL ,
I gave it a go. It’s very unstable and no use to me like that here in England unfortunately.
Try my super J program with confirm.
@@tgi4605 where is it buddy ?
I can tell you now on those settings in pitch your deus is going to sound off as good target on everything including iron. Pitch needs discrimination to work properly and cranked up like that all you are going to hear is the ground.
Thank you for your input. That is not my experience. However, your mileage may vary. Start with everything off and only turn on the bare minimum to retain as much CPU ticks as possible.
@@hecksyeah5196 I have tested the deus 2 alot of hours especially pitch park which is my go to programme. With -6.4 discrimination iron will sound like a good target, try it .
@@nicks3560 not in Full Tones mode.
@@hubsi5263 I agree that's when full tones works the best, but you called full tones would be another filter and that pitch would be the optimum tone to use with no discrimination.
@@nicks3560 Right but that's the deepest setting, which is the point of the video. If you want to start discriminating and making the machine quiet, you lose depth. There are other simple ways to determine if something is iron without any filters if you must but in deep soil you just need to dig more to find more.
Omg I was thinking that is scam .... and turned on my Nokta Simplex ... then blocked VDI from 1-20 . Then I done air test ... difference is 3-4cm more depth without blocked VDI
New Sub Bro.
Baz (uk)
Thank you!!
Give me the Original TESORO LOBO (20 khz) with the NAUTILUS DMC power (44 volts)
That's all folks
Interesting. Good prospective for cave men like me
No no and no.
This isn’t a 1970 metal detector. People need to quit using it like their last detector.
@@hecksyeah5196 dude deep HC with square audio has this beat and still have a useable machine.
You really don’t now how Audio response works.
@@searchingshropshire Deep HC isn’t high frequency. But if wanted the deepest Deep HC, you can use that program and turn everything off.
@@searchingshropshire
Well think there is an interesting video here to see who is correct 🤣🤣🤣🤣 so you for the challenge and try his settings verses your finding, pretty please 😀😀😀
Mi dispiace,ma in questo modo suona spesso....per nulla.
Sorry but you should not be advising settings like this because these are non usable settings in the field!
Sorry but you’re wrong.