I feel like an honorable mention should go to Revision Zero since it combines elements of both Vex Mythoclast and Hawkmoon. Charge with headshots, switch to sniper, hipfire dome someone.
@@otisdriftwood7094 Honestly, it would be op. In either burst mode, if you get two kills you're set. 12 headshots on a four round burst is one and a half kills, and in the two round burst it's 2 kills exactly. Buffing the charge rate would definitely be overkill
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@@otisdriftwood7094dmt is even now working awesome if u pick ur battles and use cover,gonna be a straight up menance once snipers are less often there to counter
On the pve front, Dragons Breath might be meta for DPS since it's a high impact frame and bungie is shifting more damage from the rocket impact to the blast radius. DB impacts once but then the rocket explodes roughly once a second for about 7 seconds. So the buff to blast radius may directly lead to an overall buff to DB damage.
just consistently one of the best creators in the history of this game. quality content has never wavered and TV hasn't resorted to a lot of the other awful trends other creators try to crutch on for views
I already prefer Opening Shot on hawkmoon, and it’s only going to have a better case now. I find that the “mini game” of hawkmoon’s exotic perk is often more of a distraction that hinders my performance, but might have to devote some serious time to it with the new changes.
I just wonder how he gets in matches where people don’t actually shoot their weapon at him. All the PvP guys have highlights of them stepping in lanes with 2 people and not taking one shot of damage. I step out in control and get insta melted . It’s kinda sus
I remember when I finally tried out travelers chosen after a few months of its release, I ignored the hype then I woke up, and saw one of coolguy/cammycakes videos on sidearm builds. I put on travelers chosen with a full synergistic build and got multiple "we ran out of medals". It's always been amazing since its debut, I absolutely love it, and it's so darn consistent
I hate most special weapons but I don’t mind going against sniper (excluding cloud strike) and shotguns. Wish bungie would change bows to special ammo might actually prevent them from being used less frequently imo. That might be a hot take but whatever 🤷🏻♂️
I don't know whats going on because i am jow finding Thorn and bows easier to use. Maybe it's because people have to have actual skill now to get head shots.
travelers choosen is one of my fav in pvp over 10k kills but i dont get it for vex, fighting lion got nerf for new special ammo sandbox but not vex???...
I wish hc was truly meta, but it really is more of a viable option for us who chose morality load outs. Meaning not using a pellet but using a slug instead because it requires having a better aim and not being able to easily hipfire ohk.
@@blebreton06you people are actually delusional if you think hand cannons aren’t the meta. Almost every week they have double the amount of smg kills and 3-5 times as many kills as pulse rifles. And 2-4 times as many kills as autos. Morality loadouts lmao
@@wethepeople8280 The fact that SG crutches still top the #1 most kills makes me so excited special crutches are being greatly limited next update. It's time to bring some tiny modicum of skill back to PvP
Crimson, ratking, and any weapon that gives health back. Heal clip precision instrument iggy, heal clip solar weapons…. I mean free radiant with artifact mod on solar weapons. Just ez to go solar and a heal build. Checkmate meta is basically going back to solar 3.0 crucible 🤷♂️
@@223ndogIf you don't put the time into learning it maybe. Deterministic recoil means the recoil will be the same every time you pull the trigger, which means it will get easier to hit shots if you put any amount of effort into the gun, whatsoever.
This will be the first time in a very long while where i'm sortif interested in diving into crucible again. Very much looking forward to seeing how it all turns out
Bots that can’t do anything but special are dumb, just learn to hit your shots consistently with a primary so you don’t get emoted on for not being useful in primary duels 😂 ascendant 1 player with most kills on hc on console telling you this bruh. Hits your shots, get gud.
When you design a game and all the weapons in it to suit a certain environment, you can’t just make this kind of change without there being a million oversights. This is a bad idea and I’m already quitting early y’all. ✌️
Lmfao these last 4-5 years in destiny has been the most noob friendly and casual crap ever. Bungie went free to play and catered to the noobs who can't aim. The pvp population is dead because of ppl who complain when they have to use some damn skill. I'm glad we are getting back to what we had. Forsaken was goated.
Fact, the game has been catering more to the bots who can’t aim: headseeker, target lock, and precision instrument Problem is that this allows more skilled players to push like psychos because our aim is already good enough that we can hit those shots while sliding out into a lane or jumping straight over people. Sure we would do this anyways but now more than ever the forgiveness allows me to make plays that without I may not have been as successful. AE needs to be removed, the bullet rng is soooo bad. I slide/strafe over a rock and get insta bloom because of ae yet I’m still boots on ground never having both feet leave the ground intentionally 🤦🏼♂️
Sbmm has been getting tuned more and more and currently feels at its highest rn. So no, if you’re bad, learn to accept where you are in the pecking order.
As a side note: Why should you a bad player get to enjoy faster matchmaking and less lag when I am ascendant 1 player pay the same amount for the game? That’s unreasonable, you are high on self copium if you think you are so important that you alone should dictate how a better player must be punished when they have 1 put more time in 2 possibly spent more money on the game considering how much more they play. If anything it should cater to the higher skill bands since they could reasonably be said to have invested more of themselves into the game than someone who is bad at pvp but only plays 3hrs a week compared to my 5hrs a day. The fairest way to do mm is connection based and only protect players who cannot Cover 1/5 the overall collective kd of the player base.
@@blebreton06 🤣I don't even play anymore. I just like baiting toxic PVP players.🤣 23K players on Steam. What a joke. Enjoy stroking your ego with your ultra sweaty loadout. Too easy!
I feel like an honorable mention should go to Revision Zero since it combines elements of both Vex Mythoclast and Hawkmoon. Charge with headshots, switch to sniper, hipfire dome someone.
True mooo
They need to buff the rate at which the sniper shot charges. It takes way too long.
@@otisdriftwood7094I've always thought it should change with the fire rate, but it doesn't bother me too much since I mostly use the 4 round burst.
@@otisdriftwood7094
Honestly, it would be op. In either burst mode, if you get two kills you're set. 12 headshots on a four round burst is one and a half kills, and in the two round burst it's 2 kills exactly. Buffing the charge rate would definitely be overkill
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Thanx TV for all the entertainment you’ve provided us all these years.
It's my pleasure
I agree the television have provided us with amazing and majestic moments.
So do you think it will be a sidearm meta?
Same, still love getting TV D2 content drops
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Im honestly quite excited to see how the new meta will shape up
Great suggestions TV, already got my rain of fire vex build ready, I also like how these weapons are controller friendly 👍🏽
I can’t pick up Traveler’s Chosen again… because I never put it down 😎
I like how you made Travelers Chosen like Anonymous Autumn.
Nezarec’s Sin going hard on my Voidwalker next week, you’d better believe it my man. Great stuff as always brother 🤝🏽
100% the mida multitool. it will get a 5% damage increase and with the buffs it will be amazing.
With less snipers to keep them in check scouts could see more play. Bows are also going to be less powerful.
@@otisdriftwood7094dmt is even now working awesome if u pick ur battles and use cover,gonna be a straight up menance once snipers are less often there to counter
hand holding at the back of the map going to be more popular with the changes? Will it be going back to D2 year one days?
The 3c1b is resilience gated (at 5 I think), so it won’t be that great.
@@MusMasi who hurt you? Play the way you want man it’s a video game 🫤
I don't care if vex will be meta I just want 390 rpm vex back.
390 vex was so satisfying to use, and it felt right.
Revision Zero is going to be in the same camp as Vex like you mentioned as well.
On the pve front, Dragons Breath might be meta for DPS since it's a high impact frame and bungie is shifting more damage from the rocket impact to the blast radius. DB impacts once but then the rocket explodes roughly once a second for about 7 seconds. So the buff to blast radius may directly lead to an overall buff to DB damage.
just consistently one of the best creators in the history of this game. quality content has never wavered and TV hasn't resorted to a lot of the other awful trends other creators try to crutch on for views
For reasons already mentioned in the video I think the devil's ruin should have a field day
Let's wait and see how the nerf plays out
Can confirm: Vex Mythoclast is a fucking nightmare now. Did one match with it and I actively avoided tryna fight the one guy using it.
Traveler's Chosen with Aeon Safe bout to get cracked in 6v6s
Ability Energy on kills, Class Energy when your allies get killed
I already prefer Opening Shot on hawkmoon, and it’s only going to have a better case now. I find that the “mini game” of hawkmoon’s exotic perk is often more of a distraction that hinders my performance, but might have to devote some serious time to it with the new changes.
I just wonder how he gets in matches where people don’t actually shoot their weapon at him. All the PvP guys have highlights of them stepping in lanes with 2 people and not taking one shot of damage. I step out in control and get insta melted . It’s kinda sus
I had the exact same thought, where are all of these bot lobbies?
Y’all are the dudes getting killed in the video lol
@@acoustic_. coming alive 4 months later I love it. Lobbies got a lot easier since then.
I need everyone to ignore the last gun. Do not use Cryo. Please.
I feel Revision and Mida are going to be strong contenders in the new sandbox.
Why mida?
@@Twisted117 light weight scouts getting a small buff. Mida is a sleeper as it is. The consistency buff should see it popping off
maybe the final warning will finally pop if the body damage doesn't get too affected using the lock on
Keep up the great work! Been a fan for years! Cheers!
Being able to change deadzones is going to feel great. DMT is gonna be much more fun to use
Vigilance Wing is about to become a beast.... Graviton Lance might be another diamond in the ruff to look at.
Thanks for the discussion, TV. Definitely think these will be strong. Interested to see how it shakes out.
Anything with eye of the storm is gunna pop. And heal clip is gunna be good I think.. abyss defiant rolls em both at the same time
Ayy I made the video hahah (got cryo killed) but it still counts 😂 love your stuff TV 👍🏽
Isn't Vigi Wing getting a buff as well?
I remember when I finally tried out travelers chosen after a few months of its release, I ignored the hype then I woke up, and saw one of coolguy/cammycakes videos on sidearm builds. I put on travelers chosen with a full synergistic build and got multiple "we ran out of medals". It's always been amazing since its debut, I absolutely love it, and it's so darn consistent
I hate most special weapons but I don’t mind going against sniper (excluding cloud strike) and shotguns. Wish bungie would change bows to special ammo might actually prevent them from being used less frequently imo. That might be a hot take but whatever 🤷🏻♂️
Graviton Lance needs to put back to couple months ago when they buffed it.
Wonder if the changes will have any effect on all the Jotunn crutch diaper babies
Would devils ruin be worth an honourable mention or is that getting nerfed?
Lumina chillin in the corner: 😈
I don't know whats going on because i am jow finding Thorn and bows easier to use. Maybe it's because people have to have actual skill now to get head shots.
Absolute “TRUE VANGUARD”!!
Last word cloudstrike ace and wishender... place your bets
vigilance wing is so sweet right now
what about tarrabah? with longer ttks and more headshots required, the perk will charge a lot faster if you're not a headshot bot.
Already finding loopholes which is the whole reason they are making the changes in the first place 😂
Revision Zero maybe also?
Well.. time to pull out my mountaintop boys.
travelers choosen is one of my fav in pvp over 10k kills
but i dont get it for vex, fighting lion got nerf for new special ammo sandbox but not vex???...
What’s been going on w the meta? I didn’t play for like 6 months and i haven’t seen so many so many auto rifles and smg in a long time.
V wing is gonna be awesome tbh :)
Centrifuse is very good in this 450 meta
Good vid TV
The sidearm meta has arrived
DMT I think might make a comeback
🤫 discord on pressurized precision is already nuts
Idk about PvP but in PvE I cant wait to be a literal falcon of void death with the new Manticore on a Gyrfalcon Hunter lol
The meta is rotating team-shot. Always was, always is and always will be. Solos better stack up, if they wanna survive.
I am interested in Mythoclast, but it is locked behind a raid.
Farm it like everyone else did
@@wethepeople8280I'm not setting foot in a raid after that one time doing DSC.
@@inquisitorichijou883 Skill issue
@@literallynobody1515 A skill called anxiety.
Mida going to be buffed too
The meta will remain the same: hand cannon + shotgun.
I wish hc was truly meta, but it really is more of a viable option for us who chose morality load outs. Meaning not using a pellet but using a slug instead because it requires having a better aim and not being able to easily hipfire ohk.
@@blebreton06you people are actually delusional if you think hand cannons aren’t the meta. Almost every week they have double the amount of smg kills and 3-5 times as many kills as pulse rifles. And 2-4 times as many kills as autos. Morality loadouts lmao
@@wethepeople8280 The fact that SG crutches still top the #1 most kills makes me so excited special crutches are being greatly limited next update. It's time to bring some tiny modicum of skill back to PvP
Never did get the Vex 😅
video starts at 0:37
Nice video bro, way to get out in front 👍🏾
I LOVE cryo but for everyones sanity, it is now a vault trophie.
So, here my random question, What do you think about Cryo? as in the freezy pistol?
Brody he literally just told you in the video
Crimson, ratking, and any weapon that gives health back. Heal clip precision instrument iggy, heal clip solar weapons…. I mean free radiant with artifact mod on solar weapons. Just ez to go solar and a heal build. Checkmate meta is basically going back to solar 3.0 crucible 🤷♂️
Devils Ruin is going to be insanse
Thx
Please stop trying to get me to use sidearms, I won’t do it. 😂😂
You just created a list of weapons to get nerfed in the final shape
Why not Vigilance Wing?
They are giving it deterministic recoil and that’s going to make it worse and harder to hit shots. So they’re nerfing it. That’s why.
@@223ndogIf you don't put the time into learning it maybe. Deterministic recoil means the recoil will be the same every time you pull the trigger, which means it will get easier to hit shots if you put any amount of effort into the gun, whatsoever.
@@223ndogYou’ve got to at least use it and test it before coming out with a statement like that. You’re quite possibly right, but still.
@@sarnia7559 I know that deterministic recoil is bad so I don’t need to wait until I try it.
I want it known i was using cryo before it was cool
It’s not cool because a UA-camr says it is 🤷♂️
@@trickyBasterd yeah well he was a gamer first and im speaking to that
I am the only cool person here guys. Trust me bro
I have 6k crucible kills on my Cryothesia. I don't think its good for the game if it comes back out of the vault.
@@BigZaddyYumYum he’s still a gamer bud
"Hokmoon"
This will be the first time in a very long while where i'm sortif interested in diving into crucible again. Very much looking forward to seeing how it all turns out
Anyone dude having trouble in lobbies with invisible players? Bad servers?
Rip thorn 😢
The special ammo Nerf is dumb
Nope, shotties run rampant in majority of close range fights, snipers own every single range fighr
Bots that can’t do anything but special are dumb, just learn to hit your shots consistently with a primary so you don’t get emoted on for not being useful in primary duels 😂 ascendant 1 player with most kills on hc on console telling you this bruh. Hits your shots, get gud.
@@blebreton06 first off I rarely used special ammo I'm just saying and when you say good you don't want this
Time to take off the crutches
Vex wont be nearly as good compared to when it was a 390. Its what made it ‘exotic’
When you design a game and all the weapons in it to suit a certain environment, you can’t just make this kind of change without there being a million oversights. This is a bad idea and I’m already quitting early y’all. ✌️
They plan on making tons of adjustments as we go. You can’t even give it two weeks?
Traveler's Chosen, Vex Mythoclast, Hawkmoon, and Cryosthesia, eh? I think there's one more that you should mention.
The ever insane Devil's Ruin
they're nerfing it tho, unfortunately
@@TrueVanguard this is true but I still think it's going to be very strong
JOIN THE HELLDIVERS TODAY
I hope Vex is meta again so people will stop complaining about its now terrible and bad and unusable.
1:42 bot lobby.
(that’s what we’re supposed to say, right?)
Manticore. Paired with stompees maybe?
No🗿
Ah yes, yet another Meta that punishes people who don't hit nothing but headshots.
Don’t worry, SBMM is staying on. If hitting headshots is hard for you, you’ll be in lobbies with other ppl in the same boat.
Lmfao these last 4-5 years in destiny has been the most noob friendly and casual crap ever. Bungie went free to play and catered to the noobs who can't aim. The pvp population is dead because of ppl who complain when they have to use some damn skill. I'm glad we are getting back to what we had. Forsaken was goated.
Fact, the game has been catering more to the bots who can’t aim: headseeker, target lock, and precision instrument
Problem is that this allows more skilled players to push like psychos because our aim is already good enough that we can hit those shots while sliding out into a lane or jumping straight over people. Sure we would do this anyways but now more than ever the forgiveness allows me to make plays that without I may not have been as successful. AE needs to be removed, the bullet rng is soooo bad. I slide/strafe over a rock and get insta bloom because of ae yet I’m still boots on ground never having both feet leave the ground intentionally 🤦🏼♂️
Bruh
Skill issue, sorry you suck?
I'm praying my Devil's Ruin can still melt faces
Time to take off the crutches
Cryosthesia is already so annoying to play against in the right (wrong?) hands whyyyyyy Bungie whyyyy😩😔🙃 😂
I've been playing so much apex I regret spending my time in destiny
You shouldn't advertise the chosen...we are gonna have to once again deal with traveler chosen wanna bes
69 likes, nice
Devils ruin
Lmfao mythocast 10 years later...META AGAIN!!!! Same frame, same weapon build, same rate of fire same exact recoil pattern! YEAHHHH 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
It’s the game that’s changing around it. The way special is earned now. That’s what makes it better. Well and also the range buff on it is no joke.
i hope bungie will quickly nerf the traveler chosen perk inside pvp
Vanilla Destiny 2,we return to no special weapons usage.
That is the final nail for pvp.
With this Crucible update, they should turn the SBMM back on in full!
No, just because I’m not ass at the game doesn’t mean I should have to wait 15min for a match just to get error coded.
@@simplyfitness892 Get a better connection.
Sbmm has been getting tuned more and more and currently feels at its highest rn. So no, if you’re bad, learn to accept where you are in the pecking order.
As a side note:
Why should you a bad player get to enjoy faster matchmaking and less lag when I am ascendant 1 player pay the same amount for the game? That’s unreasonable, you are high on self copium if you think you are so important that you alone should dictate how a better player must be punished when they have 1 put more time in 2 possibly spent more money on the game considering how much more they play. If anything it should cater to the higher skill bands since they could reasonably be said to have invested more of themselves into the game than someone who is bad at pvp but only plays 3hrs a week compared to my 5hrs a day. The fairest way to do mm is connection based and only protect players who cannot Cover 1/5 the overall collective kd of the player base.
@@blebreton06 🤣I don't even play anymore. I just like baiting toxic PVP players.🤣 23K players on Steam. What a joke. Enjoy stroking your ego with your ultra sweaty loadout. Too easy!
imagine still playing destiny.
Imagine watching a Destiny video and not playing Destiny.
@@soty8877 I played years ago. I never unsubscribed. I will now since he liked your comment lmao.
@@paulcox2447 one day I hope I am never as mature as you. Have a great day.
Ppl still playing destiny is wild 🤣 good vid tho TV
This is lame