Starliner Failure Just Got Worse....Boeing Is Losing Everything!
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- Опубліковано 9 вер 2024
- The Starliner problem never gets any better; in fact, it keeps getting worse with each passing day. This ongoing issue is costing Boeing millions of dollars daily as they delay the return of astronauts. Recent reports about Boeing's losses, both financially and in terms of reputation, are terrifying for the company. Today, we will dive into these details. But before we delve any deeper, please make sure to subscribe to our channel for future updates about the latest information in the space world.
When astronauts Butch Wilmore and Suni Williams lifted off from Cape Canaveral Space Force Station on June 5, 2024, the plan was straightforward. They were supposed to test Boeing’s newest spacecraft, the Starliner, dock briefly with the International Space Station and return to Earth in about a week. Instead, a series of technical malfunctions has led to indefinite delays, with their return now pushed to mid-August at the earliest.
This is not the first problem Boeing has encountered with the Starliner. The spacecraft has been plagued by issues since its development began. In its first uncrewed test flight in 2019, a software glitch placed the spacecraft in the wrong orbit, preventing it from reaching the international space station. The second attempt was scrubbed due to a faulty fuel valve. Other problems, including issues with parachutes and the discovery of flammable tape within the spacecraft, have caused further delays.
The current mission, Starliner’s third attempt, has faced significant hurdles. Engineers discovered multiple helium leaks in the spacecraft's thruster system during the 25-hour flight to the international space station. Additionally, several thrusters failed, which delayed the craft’s docking with the international space station’s Harmony module and subsequently postponed its return to Earth. The spacecraft is currently docked to the international space station as NASA and Boeing engineers work to resolve these issues.
Engineers have been conducting these tests at the White Sands Test Facility in New Mexico, disassembling thrusters and inspecting them part by part to gather data.
The astronauts have been performing various maintenance tasks and scientific projects aboard the international space station during their extended stay. They also regularly return to the Starliner capsule to work through the thruster issues with engineers at ground control. Despite the delays, the astronauts have remained confident in the spacecraft’s ability to bring them home safely. However, the uncertainty and repeated extensions of their mission have raised concerns about the Starliner's reliability.
Most of us might think the problem with Boeing’s Starliner is about reputation, but there is a bigger issue at hand. The Starliner program has been costing millions of dollars for every day of delay. The company has reported additional losses of $125 million, bringing the total losses on the Starliner program to $1.6 billion. It's also important to think about the long-term implications. The long-term losses might be even bigger, potentially reaching billions. Future customers will be very skeptical about the Starliner. Imagine a customer who wants to launch astronauts: would they pick a company that failed to safely send and return astronauts, or a company as reliable as SpaceX, which has consistently completed its missions successfully? Of course, they would pick SpaceX. Even Musk commented on this, saying, "the world doesn't need another capsule."
The Starliner program was part of NASA’s Commercial Crew Program which was initially expected to be a cornerstone in the return of American crewed spaceflights. Boeing was awarded a substantial contract of $4.3 billion to develop and operate the Starliner. In contrast, SpaceX was awarded $2.6 billion for its Crew Dragon development. Despite the higher funding, Boeing has faced more significant challenges and delays compared to SpaceX.
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So,... Boings reputation is more important than two Astronauts? Send in Dragon and bring them home!
Should truly be pronounced/written as "Böing," like a spring
What's 2 astronauts? Boeing sacrifices hundreds beta testing airliners.
NASA should cancel the contract with Boeing and then sue for their failure to deliver on their $4.3 billion contract!
The USA needs Boeing or is out of commercial & large aircraft production and relies on Airbus. Can you imagine that?
@@gottfriedheumesser1994 Boeing is already losing business to Airbus. The airline I work for decided to go with the A350 to replace aging 757 and 767 aircraft because Boeing can't guarantee that they'll deliver on time. Perhaps Boeing should go back to what they used to do best- make airplanes. They obviously are not cut out for outer space and the distraction is killing the once excellent company.
It’s buddy-buddy. They’ll get fined and won’t pay a dime.
@@khjf2010 You need not tell me that Boeing has problems selling their gear profitably and Airbus has a backlog for a decade. They cannot increase their production rate because engine manufacturers have production problems as well as cabin equipment producers.
In general, the present situation in the aviation industry is a bit weird.
@@gottfriedheumesser1994 there is still Lockheed martin, northrup grumand and general dynamics. Boing sucks and will continue to suck until its ripped into workable pieces. a CEO making 333 million dollars a year is no good
This is what happens when a company moves away from meritocracy and emphasizes ESG and DEI…
Starliner's flaws are unimportant. The only thing that matters is that Boeing has a diverse workforce.
You forgot the /s for satire..
Boeing Boeing Gone.
You are exactly right. This DEI thing has permeated all of our defense contractors and (gulp) our commercial aerospace industry. Our people are going to start dying. We have to stop it.
Hey dopey, it’s not the workers, it’s the rapacious management. Try and stay focused and not just mouthing Musks crap social views.
You forgot the most important thing totally incompetant management.
Fire NASA Director Bill Nelson, Cancel Boeing StarLiner Contract and get a $6,000,000,000 refund from Boeing back to USA taxpayers.
Fortunately, the taxpayer isn’t on the hook for all the cost overruns. NASA was smart in structuring the contract as fixed cost, so Boeing has to absorb any cost overruns. The taxpayer is on the hook for the initial cost of $4.3 billion though
Yes, Fire Bill Nelson and get a younger, fresh, experienced Director. NO ONE with a political background!
Look who believes everything they see on the interwebs.
@@robertthomas1286 Don't believe it then. Go look at NASA's page. Hell, better yet, call Nelson and ask him why a 1 week trip to ISS is still at ISS after 8 weeks.
@@twincams350 Boeing is also only entitled to payments when they complete milestones. They certainly have not gotten the full contract value at this point.
Boeing's long decline started with the purchase of Boeing by McDonnell Douglas with Boeing's own money. It has been downhill ever since. Boeing went from a company committed to building technologically superb products to a company whose only interest is the bottom line. The bean counters have destroyed Boeing's reputation.
It wasn't the bean counters. Just had to have a diverse workforce. When that's pri 1 everything goes by the wayside; safety being first.
@@johnray7636 no, that happens when prioritizing investor returns over product quality. Diversity has NOTHING to do with it.
Boeing's reputation, Boeing's technical competence, and Boeing's bottom line.
@@johnray7636 You're simply wrong about this, Johnray. The workforce is fine; it's the mid- and upper-level managers, who tend to be about the polar opposite of 'diverse'.
SpaceX should raise their price for a rescue mission every. single. day.
Charge it to Boeing.
I disagree, don`t let SpaceEx drag itself down like that ! Elon is a Bigger man than that.🙂
Highly disagree.
Law of the sea You render aid always
@@joecct77 Even launch ships?
You need a new script that doesn’t keep,repeating the same things over and over. Your content is hard to watch because of the repetitiveness.
AI narration at its finest.
I recommend the "do not recommend" option
Stop lobbying and do your job. if more companies worried about their job instead of lobbying and short term profits the whole country would be better off.
It is really difficult for a non US resident to distinguish between lobbying and bribing 😂
The special treatment offered to Boeing is 100% considered as bribery in other countries
@@frankun8755 It's the presumed assumption that politicians will do the right thing; largely ignored by everyone but the Democrats.
As a citizen I never once voted on if I want to allow lobbying. I was never asked. I would vote no. Where is this democracy?
lobbying = corruption, all BS
Lobbying and bribery are the same thing
Boeing's capable engineers have mostly retired, passed away or been laid off 😢
Replaced with dei per government policy.
Starliner will fall back to Earth and go Boeing, Boeing Boeing, splat.
This is the comedy police the jokes too funny. 👮
Hope not.
Not funny
@@bandlehars Real funny.
@@bandlehars but likely.
What's even scarier is that if Butch and Suni don't die in a Starliner landing NASA will declare the capsule safe and fully rated for use.
Says who??
Not sure that will fly....literally.
Best Boeing can hope for is a second bite at a OFT / Docking mission...but on this performance there will be no rating given...if NASA do that there will be court cases racked up for years...and no manned missions at all...we will all lose the moon and space tech set back a decade.
@@peterbondyhim
You want *irony.*
Consider the oft-repeated anecdote of John Glenn saying,
“I guess the question I'm asked the most often is: "When you were sitting in that capsule listening to the count-down, how did you feel?" Well, the answer to that one is easy. I felt exactly how you would feel if you were getting ready to launch and knew you were sitting on top of two million parts -- all built by the lowest bidder on a government contract.”
In this case, it looks like the highest bidder's product may need to be bailed out by the lowest bidder's product.
So, I believe it fair to say that Boeing is a total clusterfuck of a company.
"Boeing and Engineers" is synonymous with "Government and Corruption".
You get what you vote for so vote wisely this year my friend.
Yes, between Scylla and Charybdis!
To Harris supporters, that means vote for Trump.
Exactly … don’t vote for a convicted felon and proven fraudster 👍🏻
Love it!! 😆😂😖😭
Marvel: Dementia man vs. Orange man... 🤔
How would dead astronauts look for Boeing? Hell I am a shareholder, should have sold at $320
Just think how much it will be worth if they attempt to bring the astronauts back and the capsule fails
If it comes to it they'll send a dragon capsule to save them I think that might be worse then a crash lol 😆
What’s it at now?
@@ljre3397 about $169
@@ljre3397 169.85$
That NASA would consider using a failed system that endangers astronauts over either a "rival" system or a politically difficult alternative tells everything about what is wrong with Boeing. In the end, they care about money and ego, not their astronauts.
So, you’ve seen all the data and performed an independent analysis and know more than NASA and Boeing because?…. Stop listening to have truths and lies on the interwebs.
NASA top leadership is probably ALL Democrats with LOTS of DEI, what do you expect-competency? Nothing the Biden Administration does is competent, only INcompetent!
Not to mention the problems with NASA
The Dragon has had plenty of small issues as well. They just fly it. Actually NASA is being overly cautious with Starliner. They want the fault to be fully characterized before the service module burns up in the atmosphere.
@bremms1 This is not a small issue...it can kill the crew...and they have absolutely no idea how to fix it in orbit.
If they use Starliner to bring crew home it will be a crap shoot...and they all know it.
The fact that they only just made it to the ISS with some seat of pants flying is not a fix when reentry happens...and they have zero time to readjust and once committed that is it...one way ticket.
Then we see if the parachutes work...no real testing on the shackles and no back up available.
Dragon might be many things but a death trap if is not.
As Bill Whittle said, "Their problems aren't going to get better over time." So either come back now or get Space X.
Boeing hasn't lost everything, they still have all their ESG/DIE hires that can't do anything but strike a pose and whine work is hard.
The upside is that both astronauts are getting more flight time. 😐
I would love to have two more months on station.
I am convinced the capsule was a Boeing Starliner MAX! 😂😂😂
THEY ARE NOT STRANDED. THEY JUST CANNOT GET HOME.
Oh ok I feel better now
NASA is just as big of an inept, floundering Clown Show as Boeing. It's like a marriage made for SNL.
Like Boeing, NASA announce that their first and foremost objective is to have a diverse workforce.
Boeing and NASA both go woke go broke
As far as reputation goes, Boeing has pretty much trashed it themselves. This is the final nail in coffin. People would think more of them if they allowed SpaceX to bring back the astronauts and bring back Starliner remotly, if possible. Sometimes, it's better to admit, there may be a problem we are not sure about, could you give us a hand we have problem we are not sure of and can you bring back the crew for safetys sake.
The Stuckliner
Should be interesting to see how much "Risk" Boeing is willing to tolerate.
You’d think after the sh*t show with their aircraft they would want the space craft to save their reputation. But I guess they would rather please the shareholders than keep the company afloat.
They tolerated the risk to to take out a whistleblower. So there is that.
@@drywallpuncher1882 They are not pleasing the stockholders.
Despite the $4.3B funding from NASA, Boeing has already lost $1.6B of their own money.
Many feel that if they don't bring the Butch & Suni back on the Starliner, Boeing will cut their losses and exit the crewed capsule competition - minimizing how much they DISplease their stockholders.
Of course, sending them back on Starliner and having it fail would be even worse.
It's hard not to suspect that some policy or company culture change has undermined most of Boeing, once a stellar company for high tech. So what has changed there in recent years?
it's okay. They're too big to fail. maybe more military contracts going to them again.
The astronauts are in no danger as long as they don't use the star liner for return..
Anyone who reads newspapers knows what and where the problems are.
Remove Boeing from all We The People’s contracts.
let's hope and pray they work it out, then get the 2 astronauts home safely...
The failure started on the pad and should have never took flight
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Have never took?
Statement from NASA ... "We are attempting to resolve the issues".
Statement from Boeing ... "nyuk nyuk nyuk".
🤭🤭😂😂🤣🤣
If Boeing insists on the astronauts to get home in the Starliner, I would be very concerned if I was those astronauts. With all of the Starliner's problems , those astronauts were extremely lucky to be able to dock with the ISS.
USE YOUR DEMOCRACY HERE!!! FIRE AND HIRE! REFUND! APOLOGIZE! WE NEED ACCOUNTABILITY.
At least they can put it in a park somewhere and where kids can play and look inside the windows as they seem to pop out easily.
What they are not telling the public about what’s really wrong is disturbing. It should not have been launched with crew onboard$. It should be undocked without crew and a return attempted with the flaws. And return the astronauts on a Crew Dragon.
They're not telling us because they don't know themselves. Once the root cause(s) have been determined, they'll tell us what it was. Or at least a watered-down version of the technicals, not the underlying systemic management causes.
I sure hope they have SpaceX come and get those two. I do not have a good feeling about that starliner capsule.
I have to say, if Boeing had not merged with McDonald Douglas this would never have happened. That merger ruined Boeing
DEI ruined Boeing.
The bottom line to all of this is to SAFELY return astonauts Butch and Sunni back to earth. If it is Crew Dragon let it be that. Starliner sounds too sketchy to trust with all of its issues.
i miss the space shuttle. .it was never a bus ride like it has become today.get help boeing. good luck.
The starliner is not a complete loss, they can use it as a very expensive garbage can to put all their junk into and then it will burn up as it re-enters the Earth. They need to rename it as the portable dump truck.😊
Boeing: Spacex dragon is proven, but let's see if we can make a crappier version at double the cost per flight....
Lesson for Boeing: You Can't Lobby Your Way Out Of Bad Engineering
Well, you can for a while. Hopefully long enough that you can retire and collect a fat pension.
How many videos are you all gonna make saying the exact same information?
I spent 20+ years as a Test Engineer at a company that supplies space-qualified components whose failure would be catastrophic. This is inexcusable.
There is no substitute for good workmanship.
The $$$ is one thing.
I remember Apollo 1
If Boeing is reluctant to have SpaceX do a rescue mission, maybe Airbus can put together a safe, reliable, competent vehicle to use instead.
Boeing should change their name to SpaceTrash
Was space junk before left the ground
i was skeptical of a return to capsules over shuttles....
Boeing should just do everyone a favor and go out of business. It would save many lives.
Sure hope everybody up in space gets home safely.
Imagine if they came back on the Dragon and there was a fatal crash. That would really upset the apple cart
it's a crying shame for everyone involved, embarrassing first off for the country!
Can you trust a company who manufacture aircraft that the doors fall of in flight.
Lobbying smells like bribery
Why are people in space? It’s absolutely ridiculous
Didn’t the guy running Boeing work at G E , came over😢
Cheap parts cost lives
They should use Soyuz instead to bring those astronauts back!
Yes both butch and Sunni have flown in the Soyuz, so they know their systems
SpaceX should rescue the two astronauts for free just to prove they ca!
so give back all that sweet tax money?
Why don't they return the craft unmanned to see how it works.
Guess that Boing should have continued to focus on its core business building planes not the space capsule - this may bring Boing to bankrupcy - a celestial mishap
Boeing has been building spacecraft for decades, they were a major contractor in the early days of Mercury, Gemini, and Apollo. I operated a Boeing satellite way back when; design life 2 years, lasted 15+. It's not the technical side of the company, it's the management. At this point, I'm not so sure I'd want to be a passenger on their 'core business' airplanes.
the company that got the most money did the least got to love governments
What do you get when you cross Lost in Space with Gillian's Island? A joke about Boeing Starliner's first crewed mission..
"Just sit right back and you'll hear a tale a tale of a fateful trip, that started from this tropic port, aboard this tiny ship. The mate was a mighty astronaut, the Skipper brave and sure..."
To many engineers from MIT that dream of glory and not the lonely ploding boring work load.
I'm a tax payer, I demand a refund!!
I wouldn't fly in a Boing space craft and, these days, I will not fly in a Boing aircraft...
Boeing couldn't make a toilet without the handle falling off.
Mighty nice of nasa to not acknowledge star liner's failure. I believe the official stance is mission delayed not fail😂. Sad to learn things are fishy even in space!
What are the requirement differences between the Space X Dragon versus Boeing Star Liner? Would like to know.
We went to the moon what is now antiquated tech and to the planets too. Yet we can't seem to get out of low earth orbit with our new tech! Horse💩💩💩💩
Not another taxpayer penny to Boeing
The starliner must have been outsourced to LADA
Space exploration is a very expensive waste of time.
Fire the upper management and fine them personally for a refund of their outrageous pay.
Exactly!
This isn't about the reputation of Boeing. It's about the reputation of NASA and the United States. Returning those astronauts safely is the ONLY priority. Direct SpaceX to prepare and launch a crew Dragon and it will get done.
They did not load any software to allow the dumpsterliner to return on it's own...This is on par with how this administrations appointees are performing...
SpaceX is absolutely going to push Boeing out of the space race.
Elon don't use DEI, Boeing loves DEI
By 2030, SpaceX will be routinely launching space craft that rival the ISS in size.
“With six dollar twenty four million dollars reported…” This is what the narration voice said at 7:04. When you use AI for voice over you should error check the video before uploading.
Shatner "Sings" 'Rocket Man'
These are the clowns backing up spacex? The Boeing Flatliner is dead on arrival.
Disconnect and send to a fiery end, and get a refund or shut them down.
@2:35 (insert) however this may be an issue with DEI hiring practices.
I'm not white, but I understand the difference between hiring someone qualified to do the job as opposed to someone who might be able to do the job.
it is an issue of prioritizing profit over safety.
Lobbying must be illegal .
If/when the Boeing designed and built capsule returns, one way or another, there will be rescue teams on hand with fire hoses to wash out remains and then declare the capsule is ready for business. The astronauts were returned. Mission complete. Ok, there is one minor matter.
i think its stuck on the hatch . probably machining problem
If so, how did it mate to the ISS?
Lovin' that DEI hiring policy yet, Boeing?
Maybe you can get someone SpaceX to tow back to Earth.
Boeing is run by accountants, NASA is run by a lawyer. The design, manufacturing, operation is accomplished by Engineers, SpaceX has by choice the best Engineers, who will have the best design, production and operation, certainly not by an accountant in chief who gave himself a 33% raise and nothing to his engineers, the ones left over?
Boeing CEO strip mined BOEING ! Prosecute , jail the pirate and his board of pirates .
To bad we don't have a shuttle sitting around, then they could retrieve the capsule and service module and figure out what's wrong with it.
I wonder what the two Starlemon astronauts REALLY think about this circus.
Can a space shuttle be sent to pickup the crew and/or capsule?
NASA has been a fantastic organization. The exploration of space with robotic craft has been extraordinary.
Currently, though, the companies tasked to create the next gen of manned missions have been very unsatisfactory.
The reasons for this horrible result are many, but the reality must be acknowledged.
With private companies working to build manned craft, NASA should reevaluate its goals and purpose.
If the same money given by NASA to Boeing had gone to a private company, the results could have been much more productive.
Companies need to account for their progress. NASA just needs to keep spending money 💰 we give it. The system is broken, and we must admit failures when they're apparent.
It's time to rethink how some jobs are done. To keep wasting money fixing a design that worked 60 years ago is useless.
It's time to move beyond the 60s and let newer ideas come forward.
NASA has got to realise its limitations. 😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😮😢
NASA has never been a great company, they have been an expensive company.
Quite obviously, Boeing is out of the space industry.
Question??????? How lo g can these extra astronauts safely stay up there as there is maybe a limit to food production/ storage on the spacecraft.
Someone going get sued by the two returning home... If they return ever.
Just like their planes, if it is a Boeing, I'm not going, coming, just sitting still.