Just a friendly reminder being mature and responsible doesn't mean you have to be super serious all the time and neglect having fun or being silly. Edit: Really sorry to see so many people with a fundamental misunderstanding of balance in their life. I genuinely hope you stop taking yourself TOO seriously, stop caring TOO much what others think of you, and stop being so miserable some day. Much love.
Exactly. Being childish is different from being youthful. If every adult completely abandoned their inner child, the world would be even more of a pervasively depressing place
Being productive and contributing to the beautiful Earth is fun and rewarding! Take a moment to appreciate that, through an on-going collective effort, this entire system, while not perfect, manages not to collapse every hour of every day. Even if you hate your job, if you are employed, then you play your role in this big interconnected system! And every single one of us can work to achieve far greater things in this big ol’ fabric of civilization!
@@PornoCorner i see your point, but doing things considered for "kids" cuz you enjoy them, isn't exacly making anyone unproductive, you can be both Also i don't really like the idea of working a job you hate, obviously, many need to, but if someone is still young and/or has a chance to do something else, they might like more, they should 100% go for it, they are still being productive, afterall they are still working, but their work atleast doesn't make them hate their life
@@someguy-xc4jw now, after actually googling the term, it does have a specific meaning in psychology, but I wasn't referring to that lol. What I meant in this instance was simply the personality one had during childhood. If people completely changed their nature and interests once they entered adulthood, they'd be lying to themselves. That's not how humans work. Yes, we do change a lot when we grow up, but we're still the same person. On a side note, while this is a great video, I kinda hate the thumbnail lol. I wouldn't call a gaming adult a man-child. There's nothing wrong with gaming when kept in moderation. When it starts to affect the rest of your life in a negative way, then we're entering man-child territory. Nothing to do with your question I know, I was just triggered by the thumbnail and needed to vent lol
As a survivor of an emotionally abusive mother and an undiagnosed, bipolar father, I graduated from a chaotic childhood to a very isolated adulthood. I'm taking responsibility for my life, though. I'm working a tech job and practicing music. I've made progress in my sex and porn addiction (over 14 months sober) and am stepping into a leadership role in group therapy. I'm also much less afraid of women than I was in my twenties and thirties (just turned 41 this year). Life is lonely and difficult at times, but I have shown the ability to make it my own. I want to keep growing. I want to keep writing my own story.
Sex and porn addiction is my current struggle. It is incredibly difficult to go more than a day. I do 1 day, think it will be easy and before I know it. I'm past the place I said I wouldn't go and no idea how I even got there.
This is something that isn't talked about enough. We think that basic adulting is just paying your bills and doing your chores, but to fully adult and graduate from being a child implies so many more emotional responsibilities beyond that
Why are these ideas not taught in schools, since many parents that are good people think their offspring will simply learn these skills themselves, with no help or explanations, or assistance from them.
The hardest part hands down is the financial independence. Economy is so bad that it's not uncommon to end up paying 50%-70% on rent. Makes it difficupt to pay other bills, pay for fun things, or even maintain a savings (which can be wiped out with a single medical emergency or unexpected car expense). I 100% understand the desire to stay at home and it's not always a matter of fear of responsibility.
Yes, you shouldn't always live up to social expectations. I really want to be independent, I have a nice income (still not enough to afford a house) and I had the experience of living alone in another country for one year when I was 20. People dont realize the amount of headaches you evade if you live with your parents and ignore the opinion of society. As an adult you start to save money, maybe invest on something and eventually afford housing, if not, maybe improve the one you already "have" and you help your parents as well. I just opened the video because the title triggered me, personally I've met "mature" people which has made worse decisions than me, but I'm the immature one because "I live with my parents" without realizing what I've done before. Sorry for my english btw ;)
It's okay to play with toys, play video games, or watch cartoons as an adult. That stuff can make you a fun person to be around. Just be an adult when you have to be.
That's copium, people need to let go things to truly grow up. When you are maturing you need to truly focus in your growing not in other stuff like childish distractions. Growing up it's not just paying stuff and your bills, its much more.
@@asurapriest8054That will make you a squidward (at least thats my opinion) Is fine to keep doing what you like as long as you act as a mature person when needed. I find funny how some people that I've met keep saying things like "grow up" but you can see in their eyes, their schedules or emotions that maybe they are the ones receiving that advise.
@@asurapriest8054 Copium is thinking that "adult" stuff is more valuable than "childish distractions". Guess you will forever be playing at Nature's hand shackled by fate.
@@asurapriest8054I'm 37, with a paid off house, car, and a stable career teaching Kung Fu, I run a kickboxing program for Parkinson's patients, and I am a personal trainer. Guess what? I have a 1000 sq ft attic full of Lego, video games, train sets, stuffed animals, various other toys, board games, ect. Part of growing up is being yourself, and if that means you enjoy toys during your free time, there is nothing wrong with that. I even play basketball and go to the playgrounds on the weekends. It's far more "mature" to be active, creative, and playful than to waste your life away on the couch drinking beer. 🙄
Some abusive parents will make you dependent on them on purpose by failing to teach you basic life skills. Then, when you tell them you want to move, they'll go "you can’t. You wouldn't survive without me." And they'll be right in the beginning. But when you're thrown into adult life with no skills and have to sink or swim, you learn pretty damn fast. I was raised like this, and I just hung my first load of laundry in the first apartment I have just for myself. I know it's a chore, but it feels very comforting and freeing.
@@Macabresque i don't live in the US. I live in a small French town in a tiny (15 sqm) studio that I can rent for exactly a 3rd of my (slightly above minimum wage) salary. I commute for over an hour every day for work. But I like the place, it's cute, safe and easy to keep clean.
Important piece of advice. Once you become financially stable get therapy. I don't mean that in a mean why but trauma has a way of distorting your decisions in ways you never realize. Otherwise stay strong your life will get better.
I'm living in a house with parents like that in the moment. I've never learnt to cook properly, because whenever I tried (or try) to do it on my own, my father showed up and did it for me. And when I say I don't want any help, that I'm a 18 year old and need to learn how to do things on my own, he becomes enraged and calls me names.
@@smirkdogeface Yes but you would be suprised how easy people are indoctrinated into believing college is necessary when for many it will be the reason they suffer under debt for the remainder of their lives.
That’s true. If you take out student loans, you gotta understand the repercussions of it, and fully understand how much you’ll be paying and if you can handle it. Taking out student loans for that sole purpose isn’t okay.
For the longest time I lived with my mother, and as her only child I was subconsciously attached to her. It might have been how I was raised up since she had the tendency to make my life easier by letting me off the hook on certain household responsibilities. Although I was competent in my professional life, I felt that I wasn't independent enough to pull my own weight at home. It made me wonder that if I were the last person on Earth, would I know how to survive? At the age of 28, I finally left the comfortable bubble and lived on my own -- against my mother's numerous pleading. It has almost been a year now, and I can truly say that it was the right move and wish I had done it sooner. There is power in freedom and living the life you ought to live. Everyone should learn how to be self-reliant.
Good for you I didn’t achieve this until I was 32. I was then paying rent for the apartment and the bills at my mother’s house. Eventually she sold the house. But it was a move I should have done many years ago.
@@abhishekghosh4384 what are you talking about. If she brings him to his house, she is gonna be the boss again. The dynamics of parent child will still stay, nevertheless every person will have to grow up without their parents one way or another. One point is it does not imply he will stop taking care of his mom. All he wants to do is just be independent hope you understand
This really hits me. I come from an Asian family and because of how collectivism is a thing in Asian cultures, my parents have done a lot of shit for me from basic chores to even paying for college entirely. I can never talk about this because people will judge me and I guess I deserve it? I had an "easy" life but it was also hard because of how I was setup for failure and that my parents were not "outright" abusive but very controlling mentally and financially. I am 22 and I am starting to get shit done fuck what my parents say. I guess I am lucky my parents aren't 100% controlling to the point where I cannot do anything. It's definitely a lot of info to convey but regardless I am doing whatever I can just to get tf out.
That doesn’t really have anything to do with collectivism in your culture. If that’s what drove them then they would be making you do as much for the house hold as your able
Trauma and lack of good parenting turns you into a man-child, not being "spoiled". We learn language from our parents, the ones we love, the same with emotional intelligence, paying bills, knowing how to resolve issues and so on. Think about this, if you dont have people who love you at age 3, you dont learn a language, if you dont have people who love you at age 13, you dont learn proper coping skills to cope with the world
Yes being unable to control your emotions with strangers can also be “childish” in way like Karen yelling at a teenage employee because entitlement of the customer is always right different ways to spoil someone
Spot on. Even Gabor Maté, leading trauma specialist says Children can’t be ‘over-loved’ or spoiled up to a certain age. Children can be spoiled and loved to excess with no negative consequences. On the other hand, trauma, abuse and over-criticizing the child imprints self-defeatism into the childs’ developing brain turning them into helpless adults.
There are Man-Children who have salary jobs too. It's not just a dependence thing. But it can also be about treating others poorly. The key word is, "Failure to take responsibility." Expecting other people to meet every demand you have. Failing to return the favor. And sometimes even being hostile against younger generations trying to start their own lives. All of this still counts as immaturity. Even when the person isn't dependent on another person.
Someone who gets it nice! I wish people would cover this aspect rather than saying or just saying "Get a job and get out of your mom's basement YOU BUM!" Those people aren't worth shit to be around. It's also about being nice not just getting a paycheck.
@@jenkathefridge3933 Exactly, people act like you can get a job just by asking for one. But if you don't have experience along with all the other hoops you have to jump through chances are you aren't getting a job.
For some of us, this should serve as a reminder that we're actually doing okay. I've been a late bloomer and often feel like a man-child, especially when I make mistakes or when something doesn't go as planned. I've missed jury duty and had to request postponements. I've had to pay late fees. I've gotten F's in school. I've failed at businesses. But I do take full responsibility for all of these. And feeling kinda crappy about failures is really just part of taking responsibility for them. It's part of the price of freedom. And so for some of us, this is an important reminder that we actually are taking responsibility for our lives and paying the price for our own free will. So keep going and, ya know, try not to miss any more important things.
I've had to deal with late fees and missed appointments. The biggest change that stopped most of it is getting a calendar, I use a desk top size and put it where I go every morning. I put it on top of the microwave and cross out each day. A week before rent is due I mark everyday rent, rent, rent, etc.. that way I never miss it. Hope this helps.
@@andy101971 nice. i like those better than digital calendars like the ones in my phone. i do use the ones on my phone but it's better for your brain to have a hard copy that you physically write in. stronger brain connection when you hand-write things than if you're just typing with buttons. the hard copies don't sync with your alarms though so just gotta find a balance ha
In my case i am not responsable, i fail all the time and cant be focus on what i must to do. But that really doesnt matter a lot to me because i think i cant live being responsable, i wish i was dead but unfortunately i cant because I dont have the ideal method and in fact i must be responsable to decide if i want to die. If i am responsable, i will can decide if i die, but before that i will try and try, unless i have the method to die
@@Voz1029 that’s a rough and dark place to be. I hope you find some good friends and some support and get the help you need to survive and live a life you enjoy.
@@flyingturtlemonkeyindatrees same here, I' ve just turned 18 and I don't know what to do with my life. This feeling kinda sucks.. just knowing that your mother was always using you to satisfy her own needs when being all good on the surface it sucks so much
@@flyingturtlemonkeyindatrees Main thing you need to know is how to pay attention to time. Get a rough idea of how long things take to realistically do (hint: it's always longer than you think) and have the discipline to switch gears when need be. Almost all people mentally know how to do this stuff, but many are emotionally unable to follow through. Plan your time and control your emotions and nothing is out of reach. Reach for small stuff first and go from there.
I think because it’s so common knowledge to the parents that the parents expect an outside source to teach the children. For example, I got suspended for pointing at something with my middle finger. I figured the longer the finger, the more important. Haha no. When I was interrogated, the principal kept saying “did you flip the bird?” I kept asking her why because birds fly so why are they flipping? My mom screamed at me what the act means (in the United States, it’s not a great symbol). My mom works and my dad’s basically a hermit that doesn’t talk to me so I asked her where I am supposed to learn that. That’s just an example but yeah, idk how to do basic stuff like change oil in my car or taxes or anything so it’s kinda a miracle I get this far. My folks love me but they don’t really tell me anything I’m guessing because they think I magically know it I guess
Probably many would call me a man child for playing video games and liking pop culture but idc. I make a reasonable salary for my country standards, have my own house, pay my own bills, my car is paid in full. I'm more of a responsible "adult" than many out there who are perceived as such, living luxuous lifestyles but are drowned in debt
live it up bro. anyone in this mf who thinks playing a video game equates to literally being unable to behave properly as an adult is just goofy and probably thinks their better than other people.
this so much. gotta love those woke selfimprovement gurus spewing their bullshit all over the internet with their witty takes like 'gym good video games bad'. at the end of the day, everything is cope. games are just as much of a form of escapism as trying to conform to societal expectations by getting your body shredded. sure, one might have more benefits for your physical health than the other, however, mental health is important as well. if games can help you with that, that's great. some people will also never be able to socialize deeply because they simply don't like it. it's important to not neglect the bare minimum of social skills to function in a society, but anything more than that is optional. no point in trying to force that shit if you don't want to.
Yeah I agree with what you're saying, not every video game enjoyer is a man child and not all manchildren play video games. It's unfortunate how videogames are often portrayed in that light by the general public, yet binge watching tv is regarded as okay. I'd say as long as you're independent and your hobby isn't hurting anyone, you can do whatever the hell you want in your free time.
Don't let people tell you what you can or can't do with your money and free time if you're not hurting others mate. And always remember: the stereotype of a man child isn't just a dude who plays videogames, it's the dude that plays videogames, does nothing else and lives in his mom's basement, you're not it
Something that I realized when watching this video. Whenever you gain responsibility over yourself, you gain freedom. That doesn't necessarily mean that when you are not free, you have to submit to other's values. This is where charisma comes in. If you are a self-independent person who openly discusses personal opinions on everything, especially if they're hot takes, or have a habit of doing anything else which is deemed negative in a person's eye, they will avoid you and if they have power over you, they will make you leave. On the other hand, if you are reliant on someone, and you are behaving in a way that they disagree with, but you have the charisma and the necessary reasoning skills in order to sway them in your direction to agree with you, then you have successfully exercised power, while still relying on that person. It is important to be likeable and social and treat your peers with respect regardless of how much power you have, whom they rely on. So in the end, just because you are responsible for yourself, that does not mean you should be a dick only because you are capable of dealing with the consequences. On the other hand, do not submit to those you disagree with either in fear that you will be unliked. Balanced and proper thinking is key.
@@Akeirbuah Which part of my comment are you referring to? Either you misinterpreted what I typed, or I didn't explain my thought process well enough, or I misinterpreted the video. I can clear anything up if you want.
I'm a 25 year old man. Moved out of my parents house 9 months ago to a different state alone with a professional job as a software engineer and I'm happy to have done that. And I also like where I live so that's a plus! I can't tell you guys enough how moving out of your state or country will really help in terms of seeing new things, meeting new people, and feeling like you have control over your life. It will literally change you.
@@w9s992when you reach 40s you will miss your parents and you will teach the same to your kids who will leave you when they will enter into their 20s. its your karma cycle. imagine suffering from old age diseases and there is no one to look after you not even your kid.
@@jerrylaserry443 I do things I like, stay in touch with my old friends and family back home, and go out to meetups to meet new people. That doesn't mean I never feel lonely, I still do from time to time, but it's s fuck ton better than staying home on the weekends all day every day.
I went through this myself and I feel like I graduated from this concept. I went to study in another country in a very small village alone for two years and that experience made me graduate from that shell. This also shows that we humans view suffering and hardships very discriminately. Most of the time those hardships are what's actually needed for a transformation to happen.
I think the issue we have is that people communicate adulting as if it's this hard miserable thing and they can be hard on others who actually need encouragement and inspiration to grow. I had this issue when I was growing up. Father would say "freedom is responsibility" as if it's a great burden. It's not that i didn't want to grow up, but it disheartened me to even want to. And then you get treated poorly for not being an "adult" even though you are regardless of what they say.
Similar. There were 5 of us, but the eldest was parentified - had to support us financially & was made to deal with all kinds of issues around family finances, housing, healthcare, etc - so she resented the role that our parents foisted on her, and was like a fountain of negativity & misery - hated every place she worked at & absolutely hated people in general, to the point of disgust. I always saw her as a parental figure growing up (13 year age gap) and our parents more like grandparents. At the same time she was parentified, we were infantilized. They didn't teach us how to do anything for ourselves. Our parents also had no life outside the house, so we were not socialized, and they always talked about how dangerous & messed up the world was, which did nothing but fuel social anxiety & reclusiveness. The marriage was toxic, too, and they were terrible models for us on how to communicate & get along with others (problems met with cold judgementalism, distance/avoidance where warmth, connection, support were required to resolve problems). So the result is that the whole family system was dysfunctional & toxic. The eldest at least got to exercise decision-making skills, and middle child had freedom from expectations enough to marry & move out at a young age, but the rest of us were robbed of self-worth & never got to realize our potential.
This video hit me like a Truck I'm 19 and always have been close and attached to my mother, decided to study abroad in another state in hopes to become more independent and self sufficient, its been 2 weeks and I can't be worse, it got so bad that even though I tried to resist I simply fell and decided to retire and go back home, I feel so disappointed in myself and also regret not having the clarity I have now to see that what I had at home was security and a true friend Today my family will come to pick me up and I truthfully don't now how to even look them at the eyes
I think you misunderstood what being independent means. It's okay to call your mother and talk. You just have to deal with responsibilities without her asking, like dishes, washing clothes, managing finances, etc... Social isolation isn't any more responsible than refusing to eat healthy because fast food is "cheaper".
@@Eshical God I forgot to reply and just like that 9 months passed Anyway this's how I'm doing currently. After returning home I started looking for some colleges in my city, waited around 5 months and now I'm studying in my local area, life at home is amazing once more and I feel amazing studying what I like
Yeah dude, going from 0 to 100 will do that to you dude. Nothing wrong with it, you just have to take it slower. Of course you couldnt manage with everything new at once
when my dad passed at 15, my life completely lost direction. i went from having responsibilities and being held to a standard to moving into a home with zero discipline or structure. long story short, i started smoking weed, dropped out of highschool to play video games all day, and am on my way to become an adult child. im 19 years old and have no money, cant hold a job, and still struggle with weed. i have no education and no way to get an education in my area since ive burnt bridges at school. i keep hoping im going to come out of this stronger and that one day im just going to be 'fixed' and suddenly competent. but the older i get the more i realize that its going to take work to discipline MYSELF. my dad doing what he did may not have been my fault, but it is my problem. its either grow up, or be a sad loser no life forever. my brain wants to make it seem like these are both equally as painful. but im trying not to see it that way. i have been taking medication thats helped tremendously with motivation levels and feelings of hopelessness and depression. that alone is a big step in my opinion. now its just about working on this mountain of personal growth i skipped out on throughout teenhood.
As a neuro divergent person, so much basic stuff is really hard work, and sometimes doesn’t even work. Navigating around being an adult is like a minefield
I try to dumb things down to it's basic ideas. It helps to put it in steps in your head before carrying out a task. Step 1. Step. 2 Step. 3 etc You also learn from failure, so don't be afraid of that unless your job is on the line. Failure lets you know your weak areas so you can work on them. Without failure, there is no way to separate strengths from weaknesses. This is the whole point of tests in school to see what you do and don't know. Life is just one big test.
However I am socially awkward in my case. I can carry out tasks, but talking to people about personal stuff puts my brain on the fritz. I don't always know the proper response to an expressed emotion or mannerism.
@@Pandora234able I agree. Think smarter. I don't mean that as an insult. I mean literally take the time to think about different ways to do things before acting them out. What really helps is writing all your ideas to approach a problem down. You'll actually start thinking of new ways as you're writing it down. Another really big helpful tip is to write out a a "checklist." You won't skip a beat if you know what to do ahead of time. Plenty of youtube videos on how to write those out more efficiently too.
don’t worry necessity is the mother of invention. i’m a “man child” for the exact opposite reasons as listed in this video. being the eldest in a broken home you get heaped with responsibility you didn’t sign up for. my disinterest in obtaining more responsibility is mainly because of how thankless it can be. As recognition for being responsible is accountability if something goes wrong, you are to blame. consistency and effort, diligence and fortitude is what it is to be responsible.
@@mikedaugherty5501 Ayy.. it's as if you're reading my mind. I'm the eldest child in my house and that's my exact existence. Younger sibling is getting disrespectful and entitled. He actually that he's entitled to my service or responsibility to him cause he's only seen me being a deputy parent whenever our parents are not around. Sometimes it makes you hesitant to adopt any more responsibility cause that's all you've ever known.
@@Eshicali'm about to be homeless. i've actively been searching for another job since april. not just browsing indeed, but going into stores and businesses in person. i've had plenty of interviews, zoom, in person, group interviews, you name it. i've also had plenty of rejection emails and letters. to be fair, i don't have a college anything, and maybe i should've just got a loan and gone into nursing, but i figured i'd go the self sufficient route. you can not always get a job
As a 16 year old who feels like he isn't mentally maturing fast enough to become a competent adult, thank you for making this. This was a real eye-opener and helped me find the way to becoming an adult.
Don't grow up too fast though, you might regret it. It's good to have initiative but take time to do 16 year old things while you still can cause you'll never be in that stage again once you're out. 26 here
Trauma messed me up in this aspect, neglect from my parents also. I wasn’t taken care of emotionally as child. Being independent can be scary and overwhelming. As well as trying fit into peoples expectations so you’re not left alone.
remember, theres nothing wrong in following your passion for things when you liked as kids such as video games! it doesn't make you "weak" videos like these farm views, following your passion even if it's childish doesn't stop you from going to the gym/job or having a healthy lifestyle, just don't be observed with one thing or another cuz anything of too much is bad for you.
You have to have the right friends and family to live independently. You have to be taught the tools to be independent. Some things you will learn yourself, but early in life, your core values of self dependency is shaped by those around you.
A 12 year old could survive in the wild if he could hunt, forage for food, and provide shelter. Most urban children don't know how to do these things. We are giving these everyday luxuries, as children.
this has a very individualistic / Western perspective that I don't entirely agree with (cause it's not relevant to my own cultural context). HOWEVER I agree with this point: everything we want requires a different version of ourselves. a version of yourself you must MATURE INTO. meaning, part of your current self must die for this other part to be born (like metamorphasis 🐛🦋) if you want to be more fit, you must be disciplined. you can't just eat or drink whatever, whenever. your sleep and wake schedule must change. you have to put in time exercising, not just when you feel like it. if you want to start a business you have to do the research, learn from mentors, get the product / service, and market your product / service. you don't get to just do one thing and give up, or expect things to just fall into place. same for relationships. you have to invest time into acquaintances if you want them to become friends. you have to learn to ask questions and not just focus on yourself. you must learn to communicate clearly & effectively while still being considerate. you can't expect things to fall into place without some work on your end
I became disabled at 20 and have been so for the last 12 years. I'm totally reliant on my partner and his family. At 32, I'm just starting to get my life together, learning to drive and going to school. I don't think I'll ever be a proper adult but I'll get partway there in my lifetime I hope
When you add traumas that around half of us go through that quite literally mess up how parts of our brains function, the picture becomes much, much more messy. Someone might be a stateless refugee, have grown up in a broken home, or have a chronic illness etc. for example. For them, the road to freedom is going to be very rocky and involve some things that are far more drastic and profound than the clean template and simplistic, straightforward linear progression presented in the video.
This lesson is so important. Especially the part on authenticity. As an autistic older sibling I grew up going between two households which practically seem like two different worlds to me now. My dad earns more money and he’s the kind of father who’d spoil his kids rotten instead of giving them any actual emotional support or life lessons. As I grew up I found that being dependent on him meant denying things I needed for myself to thrive and gain my own independence (he is in denial of my autism and is generally unreliable in important matters) I’m slowly transitioning to moving into my moms place full time since she taught me what it means to be independent and be my own person. However my little brother recently announced that he’s going to live with dad once he graduates from Highschool, this concerns me because he’s diabetic as well as on the spectrum and he’s taken no interests that would lead him a personal path of his own choosing. While my brother and I hardly get along I fear his good relationship with our dad will sour once dad starts having expectations for him that he hasn’t build any foundation upon. Even if it’s hard to hear it is so liberating to be able to do things on your own and not have anyone hold power over your decisions.
Leaving with flatmates in my 25-30s has taught me that half of the people who seek to live in a shared accommodation at this age are child-adults. They seek that because they know (consciously or unconsciously) some grown-up flatmates will pick after their shit, do the cleaning properly, organise things, pay for the bills in time etc. And they can enjoy more money to spend on stupid things like food deliveries and weekend plane travels. And they don’t have to find a meaningful relationship where they would be forced to act more adult. The worst thing is that these same people will actually be the one who get angry and throw little tantrum if you tell them to do their part and to act responsibly. So they don’t even realise that, by acting this selfishly, they should have absolutely no rights to « revolt ». Yet they have the audacity to do so. After witnessing half of my flatmates behaving like that, I have lost a lot of faith in my generation. Note to anyone being like that: don’t trick your way into living with flatmates who absolutely never asked to parent you. If you’re already living with flatmates (or, god forbid, a partner), then it’s not just a « you problem », so stop postponing the growing up phase because your actions are poisoning not only you but everyone who have to deal with your shit.
I struggled with this from 18-19. My parents did their best but I never learned how to be a responsible & contributing adult. I had to raise myself, be kind to myself as I was learning & growing, I took my time being responsible for myself. I am genuinely happy that I found away to set myself free from confusion, worthlessness, & feelings of being stuck. I no longer think I need someone to love me to be happy & no longer believe I need someone else to feel secure. By being independent & introspective I discovered more about myself that I didn’t even know I had. I’m now 23. Everything I have now. I worked & pay for myself. I have dreams & goals I will get done too. But like I did when I was 18. I’ll take my time & learn because my growth & achievements is my responsibility.
Not sure if I agree with everything mentioned, but the bit about taking control and becoming a self serving individual is good. These days we can learn to take care of ourselves a lot more and be "competent" thanks to all of the resources at our fingertips. Now it's just about getting up and doing something about it.
Which, to be fair, it's always been about. Getting up and dealing with things you know will become problematic. If there's no problem now, great. It's just good to think ahead.
I've experience becoming responsible and independent as an international student for 2 years now, and what you said is true, although I've failed several time to be truly independent, it somehow taught me a lot, it felt like 10 years, and I learnt a lot about myself and about the world
I’m a 10 year old kid in Taiwan rn, while this didn’t snap me back to my responsibilities, it did make me get up from my bed and start cleaning my room, thanks for making my room more cleaner
Don't worry so much about being more mature, you're still a child and *far* away from being an adult. Just enjoy being a kid and as you grow older, hopefully you'll grow as a person too! :)
@@vi0let831 I always thought that I was growing as a person, I was and still is kinda spoiled, but I have learned to not take that for granted and help my family save as much money as possible (so far none of my tactics have worked)
@@Hot_RashBlazeBoil Again, you're still young so you have a lot of time and room to improve! You're putting in a lot of time and effort into growing as a person so you're doing good already! Enjoy your childhood and don't stress out too much about maturity, you're allowed to have immature moments because you're still developing :)
@@vi0let831 however, as I got older my perspective of righteousness just slowly disappeared, I thought that morals were stopping people from getting what that wanted, while I’m not a secret agent of the Illuminati (yet), I have learned the mindset of “it isn’t illegal if you don’t get caught” and decided that I used people that I don’t like for entertainment (mostly from their anger issues) or personal gain.
@@vi0let831 wait,are you saying that we are not allowed to have immature moments when we are finished developing because we are now an adult that have to do alot of responsibilities and are no longer a kid and is forced to be dull forever because if u ask for help many people will insult u because your an adult?
As a teenager in high school, I was precocious, mature, and even started college at an early age. An event happened to me post-college that I began to regress. I owe my regression to narcissistic parents who led me to this route. I am still recoverying but I regressed into a man child.
You think having student debt and a 9 to 5 job is fun? There's never been a day I woke up glad to pay bills and taxes. 95% of our lives are wasted to make money to survive and other responsibilities, so enjoy that 5% of freedom.
Yup 19 years to pay off student loans while working and caring for a family. It’s hard. Hopefully you went to school for a degree that provides good paying employment. It’s worth it.. best of Luck…
This video basically wants you to believe the more responsibility you have, the more freedom you have because the farther away from dependence you are. What it's not acknowledging is the chains of responsibility. Let's take working a job for example. A job means you have responsibility, responsibility may give you benefits like the ability to buy something you want, but that is not freedom. Freedom isn't the ability to aquire, power is. You can walk into a car lot and use your credit to get a car. It's not because of freedom, it's because of power. Freedom is without duress, or other hardship. Freedom is the ability to be something not because you have to, not because if you don't some consequence will follow, but because you can and want to.
I'm 22 and a man-child virgin who lives with his parents. I have been struggling with my 9 year hardcore addiction to porn. I have made some progress but this has caused me to be isolated with social anxiety and not lead me to take responsibilities. I should have been taking responsibilities when I was 16 or younger but my brown parents told me that school is the most important thing in life. I wasn't given responsibility like having a job. I had a different view of life because I was told a different thing by my parents that wasn't reality. I was also setback because of my usage of porn for my addiction. I am also antisocial and dread socializing with people for the simplest things like ordering food or anything that has to do with speaking to people that I don't know. There are times where I thought of another escape because I don't want to deal with my situation of having to be an adult.
I have been openly stating pretty much everything in this video for the past few years because I have personally seen it occur in my own family and I have become increasingly aware of the effect it can have on me if not taken care of with diligence. There are two horrid types of abuse in this world from parent to child- that which is violent towards the child either physically/verbally or both; and the type of abuse that is all too enveloping and comfortable. Only we rarely discuss the latter since one would never want to terminate their own comfort for the sake of doing so. What they don't realize is they are murdering their adult self with every day they accept their childlike nature even past its expiry. The lesson? Do NOT coddle your children. Let them fall, do not pick them up. You tell them to pick themselves up and learn what to do better next time. Do NOT stack the block for your child, it is my strong conviction that among the greatest of sins, one of them must lie in the robbery of a child's ability to learn how to do something on their own, for you have committed the act of stealing away their ability to progress as human.
I wholeheartedly agree. It revolts me when parents kill the seeds of independence in their children in order to have full control over a life of another human.
While I don't necessarily disagree with anything that was discussed in this archetype deconstruction and analysis, there's just so much more nuance and depth to this topic that simply can't be condensed into 1 8-minute video. Nonetheless, thank you for drawing more attention and awareness to an issue that is becoming more prevalent in today's information age and contemporary society where our basic needs are more easily met and everything is becoming increasingly automized. There are several instances that I can imagine where it's not entirely the individual's fault for being fully dependent on their parents and they are instead more so a victim of circumstance that's not 100% self-inflicted; here I'm mainly speaking about disabilities (physical and mental). However with all that being said, I commend you on distilling some major points which lead to this unfavorable condition/state, as well as postulating a tenable solution to avoid this pernicious outcome in a format that is able to be consumed by those with busy schedules and many obligations.
No, responsibility is learned through mistakes, if a child cannot make a mistake it inhibits them to actually at peace with themselves and not panic while making a mistake.
Maybe I am weird but I enjoy being a man child, I enjoy it more and more as I get older, now approaching 40. I look like I am 25, very little stress and I have a lot of money because I saved a ton of money on all the junk that "real men" are expected to have. The more people shame me for it the more I know I made the right choice. Seeing people get angry because I won't be someone's slave is vindication for my decision to live my life for myself.
@@anancapcat4221 Well thanks, this is definitely a first for me. I have been called a man child more times than I can count, for as many different reasons. The more I hear it the more it sounds like a compliment :)
If being a manchild means sticking to your hobbies, then I am a manchild aswell lol. But you aren’t one. You had enough responsibility to earn and save money. And to pay rent live your life the eay you want. If anything that’s what being an adult is about, not shaping you to fit others but to shape yourself to enjoy the little time you are here. I have so much money leftover, no loans, and am happy. Buy shit I like, pay my bills, pay my taxes, stick up to my mistakes, and do my responsibilities. But if I am off work, I AM OFF WORK. So my phone is off, I don’t fucking care what kinds problem you guys are experiencing, when I am clocked in bother me all you want I will help where I can then. And I love my job, but to keep stress at a minimum I have to seperate Private life from work life massively.
@@theakiwar9118 I can't lie, a bit of my financial well being comes from luck, but mostly I just didn't have a lot of expenses compared to the rat race kind of person. It's amazing, when I talk about living life for your own sake and being your own best friend, some people look at me like I'm the most selfish a hole they've ever seen. Women especially are not fond of the idea that I don't owe them anything and just want to do what is right for me. As if they are any different or better! That's the great part of this life for us, it really doesn't matter how other people react so long as their ability to cause trouble for us is limited. Hence the beauty of ghosting, or systematic anonymity.
found the genius. even jesus and the tao te ching say that being a "manchild" or "oldboy" is the highest divine state of existence for man. (matt 18:2, tao chapter 55)
The job and housing market are also horrendous. Never mind if people want to break off, the system is so broken it’s hard for them to. And it’s not even limited to “houses” but any living space like an apartment. Not exactly enticing people to move out when the “benefit” is a modicum of freedom, and the cost is becoming poor and living a stressful life as a result of wondering if you can afford food and rent.
Having tried and failed a couple of times, I'm becoming convinced that the 'competent' part just isn't going to happen for me. Believing the people who told me I was up to the challenge was the worst mistake I ever made. I want the suffering to end but I know it never will at this rate.
on the other hand, it is important to take advantage of whatever situation you are born in to produce the best outcome. If people are cooking meals for you to focus on college this is not a bad thing! I think this advice is more geared toward people who are dependent on their surrounding and not on a path of growth.
It's incredibly hard when I have adhd and my parents have zero idea how to deal with it so they just decided to be strict just because their abusive parents thought them that way and it ruined half my life just because my mom and dad have their own traumas and they were manipulated to spread it to me and my siblings. I don't even have a wish to live at that point, how can anyone believe I can wish to take care of myself when literally all my dreams have shattered because my parents are learned to be slaves this society and I always knew I never wanted that. It's sad.
Not even looking at all the other issues, adhd alone hinders the process of growing up a lot, making us a bit of late bloomers, at least for me. was officially disgnosed with it last year.
@@Dispensationalism That only works for confident people. With my luck, I would get a grey job that will ruin my mental health more than it will help. All my life, I have been treated as a dog and the only time I didn't realize it, was when I was a legit kid asking if someone else has games on their phone. They taught me that life becomes what I do with and it's all my fault that I don't have money but that was the biggest lie of this generation. I don't depend on me, I depend from them and they taught me to be nothing more than a dog. How do they expect me to be a responsible adult? I know that because very few people from my family have own business and they were supposed to rise me to get them out of poverty? This is a legit circus. A comedy sketch. Movies that we watch have more logic than what my "lovedones" believe it. The difference is, people get money from the movies and no one can teach me to make a movie for free. :(
@@MiximumDennis same here bro But you know what? If you start cleaning your room Going to the gym Preparing your meals And simple stuff like that. You will be no ones dog Because trust me, nooooo one cares, if you are healthy, all that matters what you think of yourself.
The only thing I couldn't do is successfully land a job. It's like this since January. I could cook, clean, and buy groceries on a budget, but landing a job is challenging.
I agree. In my case, I want to get a job and be free financially and start my own life separated to family. But I cannot, my family do not want it, I cannot leave grandma alone so I have to be patient for now. I admit I am anxious about my future, work opportunity and capability once my grandma dies. I'm probably gonna end up miserable as them.
You know man. If you are 18, you can leave. You have no obligation towards anyone. You can leave at any moment. No one has the right to dictate your life. It’s your choice to stay not theirs. Once you are adult no one has the right to decide your future but yourself. So don’t wait until you are 40 or whatever. Use your time
I wish there was an 8 hr version of this, or even a book that covered similar themes. This video sums up exactly where I want to go in life and who I want to be. Brilliant!
I have chronic anxiety, depression, severe trust issues, no self esteem, get panic attacks and just struggle on my own. I still live with my parents and I’m 24 and honestly, I don’t plan to seperate or move out nor do my parents really want that, I ain’t a women-child but sometimes I feel like I am. I live independently but still with them because I don’t have a lover and living alone I know my mind will kill me and my Mum can’t stand the thought of me moving away either I do my things independently and while I don’t pay my own bills and groceries since my parents deny to let me, I do however help my parents out, mainly my Mum just ask of me to help her with things like clothes and medical expenses because of her lupus. We are trying to see about splitting bills a bit but my parents just feel happier with me being here and I am too
I'm surprised this video didn't cover the biggest issue concerning actual people taking personal responsibility. Which is when your legitimately responsible for another life and not just your own. Too many people are "free" to have casual sex but never take heed to the responsibilities it inevitably comes with nor plan for it.
Yet on the other side there is an epidemic of "independence" that tells mothers that they are suppose to do everything on their own. The sickness of separation, which is living a lie. For no human existence by themselves.
Life is hard but the best moment of my life is being able to go off and become independent. I would always talk about how much I cant wait to get older and think about what possible life I would live back in highschool, and while its not exactly as pictured, I wouldn't be satisfied with it because I have most of what I always wanted. I grew up in a house of 8, and although I miss those times, I couldn't wait til I had my own space and got my life started. I'm spending it with a partner and we live together in our first house now. It's definitely an adventure.
Interesting. Don't you think that this is complicated by cultural context? In many parts of the world today, and throughout the world for most of history, people could never earn such freedoms. What's described here is the independence created by a developed mass-commerce society, where dependence can be shifted from the community to the market and government, using money as an exchange. In the past you would have remained dependent on your close community members for support, your father's trade for a job, and your family's connections and marriage choices for other lifestyle determinants. Becoming an adult wasn't exactly about independence, but something more like becoming able to support others close to you, while everyone remained dependent on one another. Now the systems that you're dependent on are huge institutions, which are farther away, and which will always accept your money rather than needing you to be a certain way personally
Exactly. You're only free when you live alone in the boonies, in a house you built yourself, grow your own food, chop your ow firewood, make your own clothes and don't depend on money. This video calls freedom a simple dependence on government.
@Tracchofyre You're definitely onto something here. I'm not sure either, but I know you're onto something. It's capitalist thinking in a capitalist society. I feel very strong until I step out into the world and am around my peers. In their eyes I am weak because I value different things than them. It's very disheartening to think and feel so differently.
American society makes me sick. I need to get out but don't have the money to do so. And yes, our "community" now is all a popularity contest and how many material things one can own and who one dates. It's about status. We no longer care about each other. Many people seem to think they do. But I don't buy it. It's a deeper societal issue that most aren't even aware of
I am a bit scheptical about personal responsibility. it is true that you have to assume your own responsibility, however most of the time , when someone talks abut personal responsibility is masking and reducing group/colectivity/society problems to an individualistic level.
I liked how you emphasized that adulthood is mostly about responsibility, accountability and competence on fulfilling oneself's needs. Often when we think about adult-children we think about Marvel/DC/Disney/Anime/Manga adults. I came from a mildly-privileged upbringing and despite not having to work trhough my education my family made sure I was a competent adult. I used to punish myself for having "childish" hobbies (like Pokemon video games) but I've recently come to terms that being an adult is not about denying yourself from the things that made you happy as a kid. Adulthood is, like you said, a state of competence, we can enjoy anything fun and quirky as long as we're competent enough to provide those treats for ourselves and, of course, not become addicted to them.
Brilliant video. I'm actively trying to be more competent and independent because I've been too protected growing up. Good animation and you can see a lot of effort put into this video. Well done.
Thing about the rich/spoiled kid is that it's very easy for them to get into relationships. Sometimes they inherit the family business, while the poor, more responsible person ends up with nothing aside from student loan debt and a failing and ever changing job market.. It's nice to get assistance from family, I do agree that it gets taken for granted by spoiled people.
I've lived on my own for 10 years with a job and my own things, pay my own bills etc. The thing that really kills me is that no adults seem to do anything other than work out or go to church. Everything else is for money. To me life feels dull and hopeless like if we're not working we're wasting our time. It's not fun and the free time is painful and depressingly lonely.
I was a spoiled kid, and event today's day i'm being called spoiled child, because i still live with my parents at my 25yo, but that is because i have a good relationship with my parents and as they say "you don't have any responsability" in the way i have no childrens, but that doesn't mean i did not provide for my house.
This is exactly why we don’t have Christmas everyday. You won’t value it if it’s always rainbows and sunshine. Christmas is so special because it comes once a year. That’s exactly how everything else in life works. Love this message 👏🏽
"You won’t value it if it’s always rainbows and sunshine." Because humans have not yet evolved for long-term comfort, if the same condition persists, they will experience less emotion for that.
Stop watching sports , listening to music, watching movies and tv shows then its all waste of time man childish then, watch just 1 movie once a year, listen to just 1 song once a year , you should not feel good and pleasured by doing these things every other day then.
That's not even fucking bad, I wish I WAS A MAN-CHILD, HECK, I had to work/learn my ass off in this life HARD since 12 y.o to 30 NON-STOP, every "luxury" I earned was just me being stubborn with my desire to get them as nobody else could, economically, poor parents, only basic needs where met, also I had to take care of a good chunk of their debt, even now I have to help them a lot, because they are old 🤷♂. I developed a few mental health issues, stress at it's peak, depression, etc. So yeah, I would gladly want to get 1-20 as being taken care off and having a proper life and then learning, rather than exposing myself to so much stress and not having any childhood. "The man is fully dependent on others, he is a man-child, as long as he remains dependent, he will never be free" Let's see how much freedom you will be getting from a 5-30 years mortgage, I'll rather be a man-child for an eternity, then to get through the suffering since 12, no impactful guidance, trying a bazillion things just to see what sticks to my brain, learning on my self (thanks for the internet at least) anyways, my point is, if you HAVE an option to STAY man-child/women child for longer, FUCK don't rush on "being an adult" PLEASE DON'T FUCKING RUSH, ENJOY EVERY SINGLE BIT OF YOUR YOUTH. Don't let such BS videos dictate you what the "social norms" are.
I hope kids watching this actually understand the concept of revolting vs being hard-headed and running away. I was hard-headed and it led to many problems for a few years. Luckily im past it but I felt this way when i was younger, without actually having my own stability.
The key I think is that freedom is an elusive concept. The naive thought is that freedom is unilateral and something above the collective. But it is the collective, the family, the neighborhood, the community, that provides freedom. Therefore if you want that freedom, you need to contribute to the society that brings you this freedom. This goes through the social contract (which I don't accept as a true contract but rather a moral background where you are forced to navigate). By taking responsibility, you are bringing value to your society. If you want society to provide you, you must bring value to the society first. And then when the tree bears good fruit, you will be able to demand the means to maintain the good fruits, since it will be valuable for others. Freedom is a two-way relationship. Therefore I liked a lot the concept of revolt in this sense.
You aren't putting the collective above yourself by finding mutually beneficial relationships. The family and the neighborhood are direct obstacles to freedom that must be overcome otherwise you will end up a slave to them. Sure you will need to work for them at some point but their interest are never imposed on to you as the individual. The collective does not come above the individual.
No. The more independent you are, the more unattached you are to society and the less responsibilities society takes for your wellbeing. Two extremes of this would be a very disabled person needs money from tax payers to live (other people taking responsabolities) but a completely independent person who built its own houses and water systems in a mountain doesn’t own society anything and doesn’t have to contribute in any way more than not attacking others
This is how I felt after I moved out of my parents’ house at 24 in 2014. It was a bit Rocky at first but I was able to find my place and become self sufficient. Then in 2017 I got married. Over those 3 years I’ll admit, I did slide a bit. Fast forward to today, we’ve been separated/divorced(pandemic stress was a huge contributor). Now I’ve grown far more self sufficient than when I was pre marriage. I was able to quit porn, alcohol, caffeine overconsumption(briefly). And I gained spiritual growth thanks to Buddhism. I would not have done any of this if we were still together. Sure I have my low moments but overall I’m happy with how self sufficient I have become!😀😀
Jordan Peterson wants you to give him money so he can sit on his ass while you grind yourself to the bone for people who are actively hostile towards you.
Thank you so much for this message, I realize that I'm having many issues as an adult and I look for other stuff to cope with this situation instead of taking responsability of my own needs, from now on I will do my very best for my family and also myself, God bless you all and have an amazing day.
I suffered from severe depression and social anxiety disorder during my youth and everytime I tried to learn something my parents (and many times my peers) used to belittle me or scold me for every little mistake. Now I am clinically recovered but I feel I didn't learn many things and I don't know where to start from.
This sounds like me and i just turned 18 2 weeks ago. There is still time to change and learn what you want to do. The past doesn’t matter rn, it’s what you can do in this moment.
Same. Here. When you been scolded so damn much, your mind teaches you to avoid mistakes. So I started learning from people who encouraged mistakes and I got more comfortable making them.
I personally think the biggest thing is having responsibilities as a child. It both teaches you how to handle responsibilities on your own, and also provides skills that make your life...just better. EVERYONE should know how to clean, cook, do laundry, etc. by 18, but the number of people who don't is absurd.
I grew out of this at 32 years of age. I lost a lot, but I did gain immensely from this transition. I owe this journey to my wife, C.G. Jung and Dr. Jordan B Peterson.
We need to be accountable for our thoughts, choices, actions, and stop making excuses or blaming others for everything. Set achievable goals, build ourselves, and not be so needy or co-dependent, etc. Life is hard, but it's also a lot of fun!❤️
See I completely agree with this. My issue is when I casually play some video games on my off time with my friends or go to anime/video game conventions and people call me man child because I still like anime and videogames. I personally believe in healthy gaming and moderation. I can still play videogames and binge watch anime but still take care of myself and my everyday responsibilities. It just takes some planning. Too many people seem to have the idea that if someone into geeky stuff like videogames, anime and trading card games then that automatically means their man/woman child.
College isn’t mandatory. It could result in a BIG hinderance in your life if you’re unsure what to do. Many people just go bc it has become a “social norm” but that “social norm” is a BIG investment
As somone who turned 18 recently, to be honest I’m still feel like a teenage and sometimes I’m scared because I’m literally a adult now and yet I’m still in senior high. Another things I’m happy about that I can cook really well,I can walk to very far places to buy food for my house chores,I can clean and great thing is my older cousin and I have a deal, if I get good grades, she will pay me since she is paying my scholarship. im currently saving and earning money because I wanted to start small cafe in summer where I can sell cold brew bottles so I can help the bills. Reason why I wanna do this because my mother and grandma isn’t that rich so we tend to ask our relatives money and food, my mother tried to find a job but nobody accept her, she has a stroke recently and her siblings are spending so much money for her recovery, my scholarship etc. I felt guilty because I felt helpless about everything that why I wanna start a student business but I able to grew my passion of making coffee so I do enjoy it. Even though I’m already independent but my down side is that my communication skills is trash , I also have really bad focus problem where I got distracted and space out easily. Also my reading skills is also bad
You ARE a teenager. It’s normal for 18 year olds to be in highschool. The only thing that makes them an “adult” is the law saying it which almost means northing. Chill out. But it’s great ur independent. Ur still growing
I like this video, because its a warning against what can happen, if you " just let things happen" that being said, if anything, I regret being too ambitious. I blindly accepted a lot of (false) advice growing up and never spent enough time " discovering who I was" when I was younger. I had to learn certain truths, as an adult. 1. No, you do not need to go to college, learning a skill is more important. 2. It is okay to question the "American dream" especially if you are using outdated definition of American dream. 3. Do not compare yourself to past generations. The baby boomers grew up during one of the biggest economic booms in not use American, but in world history. If you are like me and born in the 1980s, you will not live to see an economy as strong as American baby boomers. 4. "being cool" is something to outgrow. I was often told that being cool/popular was something to aspire to. I am a middle aged man and most people my age are struggling to pay the bills. No room to be or worry about being socially acceptable, when you are working over 40 hours a week and struggle to pay the bills. 5. Its a good idea to question a lot of the so called common wisdom. A lot of the advice I was given, may have applied to mid 20th century America, but not today. For example, I was often told, that to get a girlfriend, just go out (anywhere, a grocery story, a church, a library, college) and just talk to women. I have gotten a lot of negative feedback from that. I suppose in my grandparents time, a man just went to a local dance hall, saw a woman standing by herself and just invited her to dance with him, and there you go, they are sweet hearts. 6. One of the most important things I ever did for myself was realize I had to ditch most of what I was taught growing up. This meant realizing I was often given bad advice and had to seek out answers on my own. I do not expect to get married, have kids, buy a house. Many of the things my parents did, will not be accessible to my generation. No, this next generation will have more questions than answers.
this video is kinda bullshit cus most high paying jobs are given to people either through a direct relative connection or friend connection. So that " growing up " mentality, and do it all yourself, grown mentality is false. All you are doing is redirecting your dependence from your parents to other people via connections to jobs, events, whatever.
I've always despised the mindset that maturity = always working. Maturity comes from a combination of self-awareness and self-reliance, which do have to be taught to someone during their formative years through the cultivation of healthy and constructive habits.
I love how this video takes on problem. Not shaming people for being so and so, but kindly explaining why is bad for person and how it will help person to be independent. It's vibe love and care for people not just shaming to feed in inner demons. Love that thank you so much for your kind work
"But if you start responsibility for your own needs, you become more competent. And by becoming more competent you become independent. And by becoming more independent you gain the ability to revolt. And only when you have the ability to revolt, are you truly free." WOW.
Definitely not when you are dependent on the local power plants electricity output, your towns waste and sewage management system, your town water supply and the like. We are a collective and while individualism is important we can’t forget that other peoples work is letting us live the way we do. Sure we are paying for them but it doesn’t mean shit if for example the waste management people protest and there’s noone to take our trash. Infrastructure is dependent on others maintaining it
Just a friendly reminder being mature and responsible doesn't mean you have to be super serious all the time and neglect having fun or being silly.
Edit: Really sorry to see so many people with a fundamental misunderstanding of balance in their life. I genuinely hope you stop taking yourself TOO seriously, stop caring TOO much what others think of you, and stop being so miserable some day. Much love.
Exactly. Being childish is different from being youthful. If every adult completely abandoned their inner child, the world would be even more of a pervasively depressing place
@@larsthemartian9554 I heard that phrase quite a lot, but have never fully grasped what it means. What is "holding on to one's inner-child"?
Being productive and contributing to the beautiful Earth is fun and rewarding! Take a moment to appreciate that, through an on-going collective effort, this entire system, while not perfect, manages not to collapse every hour of every day. Even if you hate your job, if you are employed, then you play your role in this big interconnected system! And every single one of us can work to achieve far greater things in this big ol’ fabric of civilization!
@@PornoCorner i see your point, but doing things considered for "kids" cuz you enjoy them, isn't exacly making anyone unproductive, you can be both
Also i don't really like the idea of working a job you hate, obviously, many need to, but if someone is still young and/or has a chance to do something else, they might like more, they should 100% go for it, they are still being productive, afterall they are still working, but their work atleast doesn't make them hate their life
@@someguy-xc4jw now, after actually googling the term, it does have a specific meaning in psychology, but I wasn't referring to that lol. What I meant in this instance was simply the personality one had during childhood. If people completely changed their nature and interests once they entered adulthood, they'd be lying to themselves. That's not how humans work. Yes, we do change a lot when we grow up, but we're still the same person.
On a side note, while this is a great video, I kinda hate the thumbnail lol. I wouldn't call a gaming adult a man-child. There's nothing wrong with gaming when kept in moderation. When it starts to affect the rest of your life in a negative way, then we're entering man-child territory. Nothing to do with your question I know, I was just triggered by the thumbnail and needed to vent lol
As a survivor of an emotionally abusive mother and an undiagnosed, bipolar father, I graduated from a chaotic childhood to a very isolated adulthood. I'm taking responsibility for my life, though. I'm working a tech job and practicing music. I've made progress in my sex and porn addiction (over 14 months sober) and am stepping into a leadership role in group therapy. I'm also much less afraid of women than I was in my twenties and thirties (just turned 41 this year). Life is lonely and difficult at times, but I have shown the ability to make it my own. I want to keep growing. I want to keep writing my own story.
@@UncleJ-td1oh Thanks. Appreciate the support. 🙏
Respect
Wow🔥 I really appreciate your comment as a 22 year old
Goddamn was that some fuckin motivation. Thanks man seriously
Sex and porn addiction is my current struggle. It is incredibly difficult to go more than a day. I do 1 day, think it will be easy and before I know it. I'm past the place I said I wouldn't go and no idea how I even got there.
This is something that isn't talked about enough. We think that basic adulting is just paying your bills and doing your chores, but to fully adult and graduate from being a child implies so many more emotional responsibilities beyond that
Exactly!!
Why are these ideas not taught in schools, since many parents that are good people think their offspring will simply learn these skills themselves, with no help or explanations, or assistance from them.
I must emotionally mature first to take on more emotional responsibilities.
@@bellakrinkle9381 right? I think emotional independance and management is a basic skill that all school systems should start implementing
Like what responsibilities?
The hardest part hands down is the financial independence. Economy is so bad that it's not uncommon to end up paying 50%-70% on rent. Makes it difficupt to pay other bills, pay for fun things, or even maintain a savings (which can be wiped out with a single medical emergency or unexpected car expense). I 100% understand the desire to stay at home and it's not always a matter of fear of responsibility.
I agree
Yes, you shouldn't always live up to social expectations.
I really want to be independent, I have a nice income (still not enough to afford a house) and I had the experience of living alone in another country for one year when I was 20.
People dont realize the amount of headaches you evade if you live with your parents and ignore the opinion of society.
As an adult you start to save money, maybe invest on something and eventually afford housing, if not, maybe improve the one you already "have" and you help your parents as well.
I just opened the video because the title triggered me, personally I've met "mature" people which has made worse decisions than me, but I'm the immature one because "I live with my parents" without realizing what I've done before.
Sorry for my english btw ;)
@@pax1217 I agree. everyone's situation is different.
There’s plenty of people who pay rent and live with their parents. It’s effectively responsibility with out freedom
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Agreed, not to mention that the rent they charge is actually reasonable (i hope) and not 70% of your entire income
It's okay to play with toys, play video games, or watch cartoons as an adult. That stuff can make you a fun person to be around. Just be an adult when you have to be.
That's copium, people need to let go things to truly grow up.
When you are maturing you need to truly focus in your growing not in other stuff like childish distractions.
Growing up it's not just paying stuff and your bills, its much more.
@@asurapriest8054That will make you a squidward (at least thats my opinion)
Is fine to keep doing what you like as long as you act as a mature person when needed.
I find funny how some people that I've met keep saying things like "grow up" but you can see in their eyes, their schedules or emotions that maybe they are the ones receiving that advise.
@@asurapriest8054 Copium is thinking that "adult" stuff is more valuable than "childish distractions".
Guess you will forever be playing at Nature's hand shackled by fate.
@@asurapriest8054I'm 37, with a paid off house, car, and a stable career teaching Kung Fu, I run a kickboxing program for Parkinson's patients, and I am a personal trainer. Guess what? I have a 1000 sq ft attic full of Lego, video games, train sets, stuffed animals, various other toys, board games, ect. Part of growing up is being yourself, and if that means you enjoy toys during your free time, there is nothing wrong with that. I even play basketball and go to the playgrounds on the weekends. It's far more "mature" to be active, creative, and playful than to waste your life away on the couch drinking beer. 🙄
For everyone life journey is different live life for u not for others 🚀
Some abusive parents will make you dependent on them on purpose by failing to teach you basic life skills. Then, when you tell them you want to move, they'll go "you can’t. You wouldn't survive without me." And they'll be right in the beginning. But when you're thrown into adult life with no skills and have to sink or swim, you learn pretty damn fast.
I was raised like this, and I just hung my first load of laundry in the first apartment I have just for myself. I know it's a chore, but it feels very comforting and freeing.
@Kaleab Solomon thank you ❤
How do you afford an apartment? Rent is so damn high...
@@Macabresque i don't live in the US. I live in a small French town in a tiny (15 sqm) studio that I can rent for exactly a 3rd of my (slightly above minimum wage) salary. I commute for over an hour every day for work. But I like the place, it's cute, safe and easy to keep clean.
Important piece of advice. Once you become financially stable get therapy. I don't mean that in a mean why but trauma has a way of distorting your decisions in ways you never realize. Otherwise stay strong your life will get better.
I'm living in a house with parents like that in the moment. I've never learnt to cook properly, because whenever I tried (or try) to do it on my own, my father showed up and did it for me. And when I say I don't want any help, that I'm a 18 year old and need to learn how to do things on my own, he becomes enraged and calls me names.
It's ok to have fun, have hobbies, or take a step back from time to time.
The key is to balance your priorities. Too much of something is always bad.
Yeah, I definitely agree with your comment; Balance is control, balance is power...
A quick tip for those watching this video, do not, I repeat, DO NOT pull out any student loans if your intention is to remain free.
Why the f would I do that? It's basically financial suicide.
@@smirkdogeface Yes but you would be suprised how easy people are indoctrinated into believing college is necessary when for many it will be the reason they suffer under debt for the remainder of their lives.
That’s true. If you take out student loans, you gotta understand the repercussions of it, and fully understand how much you’ll be paying and if you can handle it. Taking out student loans for that sole purpose isn’t okay.
A quick tip for anyone going to college: If it's not stem it's a waste of time and money. Law is probably the only exception.
This must only apply to Americans right, in the UK you don't pay shit back
For the longest time I lived with my mother, and as her only child I was subconsciously attached to her. It might have been how I was raised up since she had the tendency to make my life easier by letting me off the hook on certain household responsibilities. Although I was competent in my professional life, I felt that I wasn't independent enough to pull my own weight at home. It made me wonder that if I were the last person on Earth, would I know how to survive?
At the age of 28, I finally left the comfortable bubble and lived on my own -- against my mother's numerous pleading. It has almost been a year now, and I can truly say that it was the right move and wish I had done it sooner. There is power in freedom and living the life you ought to live. Everyone should learn how to be self-reliant.
Good for you I didn’t achieve this until I was 32. I was then paying rent for the apartment and the bills at my mother’s house. Eventually she sold the house. But it was a move I should have done many years ago.
Now bring her to your house, and love and care for her the way she did for you when you were a child.
@@abhishekghosh4384 he won't do it ...but don't worry he will feel the pain when his children do the exact same
@@abhishekghosh4384 what are you talking about. If she brings him to his house, she is gonna be the boss again. The dynamics of parent child will still stay, nevertheless every person will have to grow up without their parents one way or another. One point is it does not imply he will stop taking care of his mom. All he wants to do is just be independent hope you understand
@@MrUprise02 The important thing is that you’re doing it now
This really hits me. I come from an Asian family and because of how collectivism is a thing in Asian cultures, my parents have done a lot of shit for me from basic chores to even paying for college entirely. I can never talk about this because people will judge me and I guess I deserve it? I had an "easy" life but it was also hard because of how I was setup for failure and that my parents were not "outright" abusive but very controlling mentally and financially. I am 22 and I am starting to get shit done fuck what my parents say. I guess I am lucky my parents aren't 100% controlling to the point where I cannot do anything. It's definitely a lot of info to convey but regardless I am doing whatever I can just to get tf out.
Your parents love you man don't see this
Someday you will regret
@@UncleJ-td1oh Thank you. God (or whoever you believe in) bless you.
Thanks for sharing
That doesn’t really have anything to do with collectivism in your culture. If that’s what drove them then they would be making you do as much for the house hold as your able
i feel your pain, vietnamese brother:))
Trauma and lack of good parenting turns you into a man-child, not being "spoiled".
We learn language from our parents, the ones we love, the same with emotional intelligence, paying bills, knowing how to resolve issues and so on. Think about this, if you dont have people who love you at age 3, you dont learn a language, if you dont have people who love you at age 13, you dont learn proper coping skills to cope with the world
Yes being unable to control your emotions with strangers can also be “childish” in way like Karen yelling at a teenage employee because entitlement of the customer is always right different ways to spoil someone
Spot on. Even Gabor Maté, leading trauma specialist says Children can’t be ‘over-loved’ or spoiled up to a certain age. Children can be spoiled and loved to excess with no negative consequences. On the other hand, trauma, abuse and over-criticizing the child imprints self-defeatism into the childs’ developing brain turning them into helpless adults.
That's a very interesting perspective. Do you recommend any particular authors or books if one wanted to learn more about your ideas?
I think all three can have the outcome including being spoiled,I’ve witnessed this closely
We definitely have different definitions of "spoiled". What is your definition of "spoiled"?
There are Man-Children who have salary jobs too.
It's not just a dependence thing. But it can also be about treating others poorly.
The key word is, "Failure to take responsibility."
Expecting other people to meet every demand you have. Failing to return the favor.
And sometimes even being hostile against younger generations trying to start their own lives.
All of this still counts as immaturity. Even when the person isn't dependent on another person.
Someone who gets it nice!
I wish people would cover this aspect rather than saying or just saying "Get a job and get out of your mom's basement YOU BUM!" Those people aren't worth shit to be around.
It's also about being nice not just getting a paycheck.
I 100% agree
You hit the nail on the head.
@@anancapcat4221plus finding a job with no experience is tough
@@jenkathefridge3933 Exactly, people act like you can get a job just by asking for one.
But if you don't have experience along with all the other hoops you have to jump through chances are you aren't getting a job.
For some of us, this should serve as a reminder that we're actually doing okay. I've been a late bloomer and often feel like a man-child, especially when I make mistakes or when something doesn't go as planned. I've missed jury duty and had to request postponements. I've had to pay late fees. I've gotten F's in school. I've failed at businesses. But I do take full responsibility for all of these. And feeling kinda crappy about failures is really just part of taking responsibility for them. It's part of the price of freedom. And so for some of us, this is an important reminder that we actually are taking responsibility for our lives and paying the price for our own free will. So keep going and, ya know, try not to miss any more important things.
Your comment and life story was inspiring, in spite of the failures.
Keep going
I've had to deal with late fees and missed appointments. The biggest change that stopped most of it is getting a calendar, I use a desk top size and put it where I go every morning. I put it on top of the microwave and cross out each day. A week before rent is due I mark everyday rent, rent, rent, etc.. that way I never miss it. Hope this helps.
@@andy101971 nice. i like those better than digital calendars like the ones in my phone. i do use the ones on my phone but it's better for your brain to have a hard copy that you physically write in. stronger brain connection when you hand-write things than if you're just typing with buttons. the hard copies don't sync with your alarms though so just gotta find a balance ha
In my case i am not responsable, i fail all the time and cant be focus on what i must to do. But that really doesnt matter a lot to me because i think i cant live being responsable, i wish i was dead but unfortunately i cant because I dont have the ideal method and in fact i must be responsable to decide if i want to die. If i am responsable, i will can decide if i die, but before that i will try and try, unless i have the method to die
@@Voz1029 that’s a rough and dark place to be. I hope you find some good friends and some support and get the help you need to survive and live a life you enjoy.
I think there is a thing where parents don’t parent there kids and expect them to know all these skills at the age of 18.
My mom gave me anything and everything I ever needed and my dad was always around but never available. Didn't teach me anything. So yeah, I'm lost.
@@flyingturtlemonkeyindatrees same here, I' ve just turned 18 and I don't know what to do with my life. This feeling kinda sucks.. just knowing that your mother was always using you to satisfy her own needs when being all good on the surface it sucks so much
@@flyingturtlemonkeyindatrees Main thing you need to know is how to pay attention to time. Get a rough idea of how long things take to realistically do (hint: it's always longer than you think) and have the discipline to switch gears when need be. Almost all people mentally know how to do this stuff, but many are emotionally unable to follow through. Plan your time and control your emotions and nothing is out of reach. Reach for small stuff first and go from there.
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I think because it’s so common knowledge to the parents that the parents expect an outside source to teach the children.
For example, I got suspended for pointing at something with my middle finger. I figured the longer the finger, the more important. Haha no. When I was interrogated, the principal kept saying “did you flip the bird?” I kept asking her why because birds fly so why are they flipping? My mom screamed at me what the act means (in the United States, it’s not a great symbol). My mom works and my dad’s basically a hermit that doesn’t talk to me so I asked her where I am supposed to learn that.
That’s just an example but yeah, idk how to do basic stuff like change oil in my car or taxes or anything so it’s kinda a miracle I get this far. My folks love me but they don’t really tell me anything I’m guessing because they think I magically know it I guess
Probably many would call me a man child for playing video games and liking pop culture but idc. I make a reasonable salary for my country standards, have my own house, pay my own bills, my car is paid in full. I'm more of a responsible "adult" than many out there who are perceived as such, living luxuous lifestyles but are drowned in debt
live it up bro. anyone in this mf who thinks playing a video game equates to literally being unable to behave properly as an adult is just goofy and probably thinks their better than other people.
this so much. gotta love those woke selfimprovement gurus spewing their bullshit all over the internet with their witty takes like 'gym good video games bad'. at the end of the day, everything is cope. games are just as much of a form of escapism as trying to conform to societal expectations by getting your body shredded. sure, one might have more benefits for your physical health than the other, however, mental health is important as well. if games can help you with that, that's great. some people will also never be able to socialize deeply because they simply don't like it. it's important to not neglect the bare minimum of social skills to function in a society, but anything more than that is optional. no point in trying to force that shit if you don't want to.
You ain’t a man child til ya skip work to do acid Waltuh
Yeah I agree with what you're saying, not every video game enjoyer is a man child and not all manchildren play video games. It's unfortunate how videogames are often portrayed in that light by the general public, yet binge watching tv is regarded as okay. I'd say as long as you're independent and your hobby isn't hurting anyone, you can do whatever the hell you want in your free time.
Don't let people tell you what you can or can't do with your money and free time if you're not hurting others mate. And always remember: the stereotype of a man child isn't just a dude who plays videogames, it's the dude that plays videogames, does nothing else and lives in his mom's basement, you're not it
Something that I realized when watching this video. Whenever you gain responsibility over yourself, you gain freedom. That doesn't necessarily mean that when you are not free, you have to submit to other's values. This is where charisma comes in. If you are a self-independent person who openly discusses personal opinions on everything, especially if they're hot takes, or have a habit of doing anything else which is deemed negative in a person's eye, they will avoid you and if they have power over you, they will make you leave. On the other hand, if you are reliant on someone, and you are behaving in a way that they disagree with, but you have the charisma and the necessary reasoning skills in order to sway them in your direction to agree with you, then you have successfully exercised power, while still relying on that person. It is important to be likeable and social and treat your peers with respect regardless of how much power you have, whom they rely on. So in the end, just because you are responsible for yourself, that does not mean you should be a dick only because you are capable of dealing with the consequences. On the other hand, do not submit to those you disagree with either in fear that you will be unliked. Balanced and proper thinking is key.
i like this
That’s not what the video promoted at all
@@Akeirbuah Which part of my comment are you referring to? Either you misinterpreted what I typed, or I didn't explain my thought process well enough, or I misinterpreted the video. I can clear anything up if you want.
The video is amazing, but the comments on the video? Mind blowing
Wow thanx
I'm a 25 year old man. Moved out of my parents house 9 months ago to a different state alone with a professional job as a software engineer and I'm happy to have done that. And I also like where I live so that's a plus! I can't tell you guys enough how moving out of your state or country will really help in terms of seeing new things, meeting new people, and feeling like you have control over your life. It will literally change you.
you dont feel lonely?
@@w9s992 Sometimes I do, but I have a few friends here and I go out often on the weekends and meet people in meetups so I do socialize.
@@w9s992when you reach 40s you will miss your parents and you will teach the same to your kids who will leave you when they will enter into their 20s. its your karma cycle. imagine suffering from old age diseases and there is no one to look after you not even your kid.
Yeah please elaborate, how do you not feel lonely? Im 23 and feel so crippibgly lonely
@@jerrylaserry443 I do things I like, stay in touch with my old friends and family back home, and go out to meetups to meet new people. That doesn't mean I never feel lonely, I still do from time to time, but it's s fuck ton better than staying home on the weekends all day every day.
I went through this myself and I feel like I graduated from this concept. I went to study in another country in a very small village alone for two years and that experience made me graduate from that shell. This also shows that we humans view suffering and hardships very discriminately. Most of the time those hardships are what's actually needed for a transformation to happen.
I think the issue we have is that people communicate adulting as if it's this hard miserable thing and they can be hard on others who actually need encouragement and inspiration to grow. I had this issue when I was growing up. Father would say "freedom is responsibility" as if it's a great burden. It's not that i didn't want to grow up, but it disheartened me to even want to. And then you get treated poorly for not being an "adult" even though you are regardless of what they say.
Similar. There were 5 of us, but the eldest was parentified - had to support us financially & was made to deal with all kinds of issues around family finances, housing, healthcare, etc - so she resented the role that our parents foisted on her, and was like a fountain of negativity & misery - hated every place she worked at & absolutely hated people in general, to the point of disgust. I always saw her as a parental figure growing up (13 year age gap) and our parents more like grandparents. At the same time she was parentified, we were infantilized. They didn't teach us how to do anything for ourselves. Our parents also had no life outside the house, so we were not socialized, and they always talked about how dangerous & messed up the world was, which did nothing but fuel social anxiety & reclusiveness. The marriage was toxic, too, and they were terrible models for us on how to communicate & get along with others (problems met with cold judgementalism, distance/avoidance where warmth, connection, support were required to resolve problems). So the result is that the whole family system was dysfunctional & toxic. The eldest at least got to exercise decision-making skills, and middle child had freedom from expectations enough to marry & move out at a young age, but the rest of us were robbed of self-worth & never got to realize our potential.
this is a very surface level video and not the reality for a lot people. Take this video with a grain of salt.
True
This video hit me like a Truck
I'm 19 and always have been close and attached to my mother, decided to study abroad in another state in hopes to become more independent and self sufficient, its been 2 weeks and I can't be worse, it got so bad that even though I tried to resist I simply fell and decided to retire and go back home, I feel so disappointed in myself and also regret not having the clarity I have now to see that what I had at home was security and a true friend
Today my family will come to pick me up and I truthfully don't now how to even look them at the eyes
little steps each day!
c'mon, you're still 19, no need to be so harsh on yourself
I think you misunderstood what being independent means. It's okay to call your mother and talk. You just have to deal with responsibilities without her asking, like dishes, washing clothes, managing finances, etc... Social isolation isn't any more responsible than refusing to eat healthy because fast food is "cheaper".
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God I forgot to reply and just like that 9 months passed
Anyway this's how I'm doing currently.
After returning home I started looking for some colleges in my city, waited around 5 months and now I'm studying in my local area, life at home is amazing once more and I feel amazing studying what I like
Yeah dude, going from 0 to 100 will do that to you dude. Nothing wrong with it, you just have to take it slower. Of course you couldnt manage with everything new at once
when my dad passed at 15, my life completely lost direction. i went from having responsibilities and being held to a standard to moving into a home with zero discipline or structure. long story short, i started smoking weed, dropped out of highschool to play video games all day, and am on my way to become an adult child.
im 19 years old and have no money, cant hold a job, and still struggle with weed. i have no education and no way to get an education in my area since ive burnt bridges at school. i keep hoping im going to come out of this stronger and that one day im just going to be 'fixed' and suddenly competent. but the older i get the more i realize that its going to take work to discipline MYSELF. my dad doing what he did may not have been my fault, but it is my problem. its either grow up, or be a sad loser no life forever. my brain wants to make it seem like these are both equally as painful. but im trying not to see it that way.
i have been taking medication thats helped tremendously with motivation levels and feelings of hopelessness and depression. that alone is a big step in my opinion. now its just about working on this mountain of personal growth i skipped out on throughout teenhood.
@@NegativeAccelerate dead people aren't the greatest listeners.
@@NegativeAccelerate his dad's dead
As a neuro divergent person, so much basic stuff is really hard work, and sometimes doesn’t even work. Navigating around being an adult is like a minefield
Agree.
@Julez you can’t just willpower neurodivergency
I try to dumb things down to it's basic ideas. It helps to put it in steps in your head before carrying out a task. Step 1. Step. 2 Step. 3 etc You also learn from failure, so don't be afraid of that unless your job is on the line. Failure lets you know your weak areas so you can work on them. Without failure, there is no way to separate strengths from weaknesses. This is the whole point of tests in school to see what you do and don't know. Life is just one big test.
However I am socially awkward in my case. I can carry out tasks, but talking to people about personal stuff puts my brain on the fritz. I don't always know the proper response to an expressed emotion or mannerism.
@@Pandora234able I agree. Think smarter. I don't mean that as an insult. I mean literally take the time to think about different ways to do things before acting them out. What really helps is writing all your ideas to approach a problem down. You'll actually start thinking of new ways as you're writing it down. Another really big helpful tip is to write out a a "checklist." You won't skip a beat if you know what to do ahead of time. Plenty of youtube videos on how to write those out more efficiently too.
I am the oldest child, but I always feel like I'm never ready to be in charge of the family if unexpected things happened to my parents 😔
don’t worry necessity is the mother of invention. i’m a “man child” for the exact opposite reasons as listed in this video. being the eldest in a broken home you get heaped with responsibility you didn’t sign up for. my disinterest in obtaining more responsibility is mainly because of how thankless it can be. As recognition for being responsible is accountability if something goes wrong, you are to blame. consistency and effort, diligence and fortitude is what it is to be responsible.
@@mikedaugherty5501 Ayy.. it's as if you're reading my mind. I'm the eldest child in my house and that's my exact existence. Younger sibling is getting disrespectful and entitled. He actually that he's entitled to my service or responsibility to him cause he's only seen me being a deputy parent whenever our parents are not around. Sometimes it makes you hesitant to adopt any more responsibility cause that's all you've ever known.
The man is now independent of his family... But now he's dependent on his job.
@@nomelas yes, how else would humans eat if I didn't cook. Oh wait...
@@flyingturtlemonkeyindatrees what do you mean, cannibalism?
@@nomelas bro do not act like you care please 😂😂😂 “at least he’s an obedient and behaved citizen!” What are you running for mayor? Bro please
@@Eshicali'm about to be homeless. i've actively been searching for another job since april. not just browsing indeed, but going into stores and businesses in person. i've had plenty of interviews, zoom, in person, group interviews, you name it. i've also had plenty of rejection emails and letters. to be fair, i don't have a college anything, and maybe i should've just got a loan and gone into nursing, but i figured i'd go the self sufficient route. you can not always get a job
I found the manchild in the comment section!
As a 16 year old who feels like he isn't mentally maturing fast enough to become a competent adult, thank you for making this. This was a real eye-opener and helped me find the way to becoming an adult.
You’re only 16 and already taking initiative you got this!
@@vibes1680 Thanks bro, I appreciate the kind words :)
Don't grow up too fast though, you might regret it. It's good to have initiative but take time to do 16 year old things while you still can cause you'll never be in that stage again once you're out. 26 here
Youre 16 , You don't need yo be an adult for now for gods sake.
Enjoy your life and your age , you'll only be 16 once in your life.
The healthiest way to grow is through relationships, whether romantic or not, the fact you’re thinking about it is big.
Trauma messed me up in this aspect, neglect from my parents also. I wasn’t taken care of emotionally as child. Being independent can be scary and overwhelming. As well as trying fit into peoples expectations so you’re not left alone.
Sometimes we have parents who won't let go of control. This is a great video but in some circumstances, it doesn't work.
remember, theres nothing wrong in following your passion for things when you liked as kids such as video games! it doesn't make you "weak" videos like these farm views, following your passion even if it's childish doesn't stop you from going to the gym/job or having a healthy lifestyle, just don't be observed with one thing or another cuz anything of too much is bad for you.
I think that's very different from what the video is trying to say.
@@sunn9593 I think he was just referring to the thumbnail of the video.
Right brother!
The video was clickbaity, but the content is more about being able to be self-sufficient
Agreed
You have to have the right friends and family to live independently. You have to be taught the tools to be independent.
Some things you will learn yourself, but early in life, your core values of self dependency is shaped by those around you.
Wrong. A 12 year old will survive in the wild if he must.
A 12 year old could survive in the wild if he could hunt, forage for food, and provide shelter. Most urban children don't know how to do these things. We are giving these everyday luxuries, as children.
@@fosho332surviving in the wild is easier than surviving on your own in society
this has a very individualistic / Western perspective that I don't entirely agree with (cause it's not relevant to my own cultural context). HOWEVER I agree with this point: everything we want requires a different version of ourselves. a version of yourself you must MATURE INTO. meaning, part of your current self must die for this other part to be born (like metamorphasis 🐛🦋)
if you want to be more fit, you must be disciplined. you can't just eat or drink whatever, whenever. your sleep and wake schedule must change. you have to put in time exercising, not just when you feel like it.
if you want to start a business you have to do the research, learn from mentors, get the product / service, and market your product / service. you don't get to just do one thing and give up, or expect things to just fall into place.
same for relationships. you have to invest time into acquaintances if you want them to become friends. you have to learn to ask questions and not just focus on yourself. you must learn to communicate clearly & effectively while still being considerate. you can't expect things to fall into place without some work on your end
Everyone tells you HOW.
No one tells you WHY.
I became disabled at 20 and have been so for the last 12 years. I'm totally reliant on my partner and his family. At 32, I'm just starting to get my life together, learning to drive and going to school. I don't think I'll ever be a proper adult but I'll get partway there in my lifetime I hope
"You'll have to cook, clean, and manage the household". Challenge accepted
I know this. Adult suck anyway
When you add traumas that around half of us go through that quite literally mess up how parts of our brains function, the picture becomes much, much more messy. Someone might be a stateless refugee, have grown up in a broken home, or have a chronic illness etc. for example. For them, the road to freedom is going to be very rocky and involve some things that are far more drastic and profound than the clean template and simplistic, straightforward linear progression presented in the video.
Yepp, it's a daily struggle on top of the normal struggles talked about in this video. A constant battle within a constant battle. Traumaception
Straight Facts
This lesson is so important. Especially the part on authenticity.
As an autistic older sibling I grew up going between two households which practically seem like two different worlds to me now. My dad earns more money and he’s the kind of father who’d spoil his kids rotten instead of giving them any actual emotional support or life lessons. As I grew up I found that being dependent on him meant denying things I needed for myself to thrive and gain my own independence (he is in denial of my autism and is generally unreliable in important matters) I’m slowly transitioning to moving into my moms place full time since she taught me what it means to be independent and be my own person. However my little brother recently announced that he’s going to live with dad once he graduates from Highschool, this concerns me because he’s diabetic as well as on the spectrum and he’s taken no interests that would lead him a personal path of his own choosing. While my brother and I hardly get along I fear his good relationship with our dad will sour once dad starts having expectations for him that he hasn’t build any foundation upon. Even if it’s hard to hear it is so liberating to be able to do things on your own and not have anyone hold power over your decisions.
Leaving with flatmates in my 25-30s has taught me that half of the people who seek to live in a shared accommodation at this age are child-adults. They seek that because they know (consciously or unconsciously) some grown-up flatmates will pick after their shit, do the cleaning properly, organise things, pay for the bills in time etc. And they can enjoy more money to spend on stupid things like food deliveries and weekend plane travels. And they don’t have to find a meaningful relationship where they would be forced to act more adult.
The worst thing is that these same people will actually be the one who get angry and throw little tantrum if you tell them to do their part and to act responsibly. So they don’t even realise that, by acting this selfishly, they should have absolutely no rights to « revolt ». Yet they have the audacity to do so.
After witnessing half of my flatmates behaving like that, I have lost a lot of faith in my generation.
Note to anyone being like that: don’t trick your way into living with flatmates who absolutely never asked to parent you. If you’re already living with flatmates (or, god forbid, a partner), then it’s not just a « you problem », so stop postponing the growing up phase because your actions are poisoning not only you but everyone who have to deal with your shit.
Also it's a great way to get murdered by your flatmate/partner.
I struggled with this from 18-19. My parents did their best but I never learned how to be a responsible & contributing adult.
I had to raise myself, be kind to myself as I was learning & growing, I took my time being responsible for myself.
I am genuinely happy that I found away to set myself free from confusion, worthlessness, & feelings of being stuck. I no longer think I need someone to love me to be happy & no longer believe I need someone else to feel secure.
By being independent & introspective I discovered more about myself that I didn’t even know I had.
I’m now 23. Everything I have now. I worked & pay for myself.
I have dreams & goals I will get done too. But like I did when I was 18. I’ll take my time & learn because my growth & achievements is my responsibility.
Not sure if I agree with everything mentioned, but the bit about taking control and becoming a self serving individual is good. These days we can learn to take care of ourselves a lot more and be "competent" thanks to all of the resources at our fingertips. Now it's just about getting up and doing something about it.
Which, to be fair, it's always been about. Getting up and dealing with things you know will become problematic. If there's no problem now, great. It's just good to think ahead.
I've experience becoming responsible and independent as an international student for 2 years now, and what you said is true, although I've failed several time to be truly independent, it somehow taught me a lot, it felt like 10 years, and I learnt a lot about myself and about the world
As has say the dad of Bob Lennon :
"Be a adult went you have to be, and a child when you can be it."
I’m a 10 year old kid in Taiwan rn, while this didn’t snap me back to my responsibilities, it did make me get up from my bed and start cleaning my room, thanks for making my room more cleaner
Don't worry so much about being more mature, you're still a child and *far* away from being an adult. Just enjoy being a kid and as you grow older, hopefully you'll grow as a person too! :)
@@vi0let831 I always thought that I was growing as a person, I was and still is kinda spoiled, but I have learned to not take that for granted and help my family save as much money as possible (so far none of my tactics have worked)
@@Hot_RashBlazeBoil
Again, you're still young so you have a lot of time and room to improve! You're putting in a lot of time and effort into growing as a person so you're doing good already! Enjoy your childhood and don't stress out too much about maturity, you're allowed to have immature moments because you're still developing :)
@@vi0let831 however, as I got older my perspective of righteousness just slowly disappeared, I thought that morals were stopping people from getting what that wanted, while I’m not a secret agent of the Illuminati (yet), I have learned the mindset of “it isn’t illegal if you don’t get caught” and decided that I used people that I don’t like for entertainment (mostly from their anger issues) or personal gain.
@@vi0let831 wait,are you saying that we are not allowed to have immature moments when we are finished developing because we are now an adult that have to do alot of responsibilities and are no longer a kid and is forced to be dull forever because if u ask for help many people will insult u because your an adult?
This made me anxious. I don’t wanna be a man child but I am scared, not about the responsibility but of the danger of being so independent
Hey, what’s so scary about it you think?
@@raftingorange6085 the scenario just reminds me of Nero the emperor. “no one man should have all that power” - Ye
@@CareerDropout. well, power over what? (I’m not familiar with Nero!)
@@raftingorange6085 I became distracted so I forgot what I was about to write.
@@CareerDropout. lool happens @ me if u wanna say later xd
As a teenager in high school, I was precocious, mature, and even started college at an early age. An event happened to me post-college that I began to regress. I owe my regression to narcissistic parents who led me to this route. I am still recoverying but I regressed into a man child.
You think having student debt and a 9 to 5 job is fun? There's never been a day I woke up glad to pay bills and taxes. 95% of our lives are wasted to make money to survive and other responsibilities, so enjoy that 5% of freedom.
I would say probably wage slave yourself and save up for community college or trade school.
Yup 19 years to pay off student loans while working and caring for a family. It’s hard. Hopefully you went to school for a degree that provides good paying employment.
It’s worth it.. best of
Luck…
This video basically wants you to believe the more responsibility you have, the more freedom you have because the farther away from dependence you are. What it's not acknowledging is the chains of responsibility. Let's take working a job for example. A job means you have responsibility, responsibility may give you benefits like the ability to buy something you want, but that is not freedom. Freedom isn't the ability to aquire, power is. You can walk into a car lot and use your credit to get a car. It's not because of freedom, it's because of power. Freedom is without duress, or other hardship. Freedom is the ability to be something not because you have to, not because if you don't some consequence will follow, but because you can and want to.
freedom shouldnt be the freedom to do as we please, its the tremendous privilege we all have to do what's right
Freedom is power and power is freedom.
@@BashaerB-h2c water is wet
But to get to freedom you gotta be independent and being independent means you gotta take responsibility for everything that happens to you
The type of freedom you describe is only available to the rich and the dead.
I'm 22 and a man-child virgin who lives with his parents. I have been struggling with my 9 year hardcore addiction to porn. I have made some progress but this has caused me to be isolated with social anxiety and not lead me to take responsibilities. I should have been taking responsibilities when I was 16 or younger but my brown parents told me that school is the most important thing in life. I wasn't given responsibility like having a job. I had a different view of life because I was told a different thing by my parents that wasn't reality. I was also setback because of my usage of porn for my addiction. I am also antisocial and dread socializing with people for the simplest things like ordering food or anything that has to do with speaking to people that I don't know. There are times where I thought of another escape because I don't want to deal with my situation of having to be an adult.
I have been openly stating pretty much everything in this video for the past few years because I have personally seen it occur in my own family and I have become increasingly aware of the effect it can have on me if not taken care of with diligence. There are two horrid types of abuse in this world from parent to child- that which is violent towards the child either physically/verbally or both; and the type of abuse that is all too enveloping and comfortable. Only we rarely discuss the latter since one would never want to terminate their own comfort for the sake of doing so. What they don't realize is they are murdering their adult self with every day they accept their childlike nature even past its expiry. The lesson?
Do NOT coddle your children. Let them fall, do not pick them up. You tell them to pick themselves up and learn what to do better next time. Do NOT stack the block for your child, it is my strong conviction that among the greatest of sins, one of them must lie in the robbery of a child's ability to learn how to do something on their own, for you have committed the act of stealing away their ability to progress as human.
I wholeheartedly agree. It revolts me when parents kill the seeds of independence in their children in order to have full control over a life of another human.
@@MajinSayon There are more reasons than just control
It can also be done with good intent so don’t generalize
Strong men don't care or pay attention to what others are doing and go about their business. Weak men like you type paragraphs like this.
Why do you care about what other men do so much? Sus.
While I don't necessarily disagree with anything that was discussed in this archetype deconstruction and analysis, there's just so much more nuance and depth to this topic that simply can't be condensed into 1 8-minute video. Nonetheless, thank you for drawing more attention and awareness to an issue that is becoming more prevalent in today's information age and contemporary society where our basic needs are more easily met and everything is becoming increasingly automized. There are several instances that I can imagine where it's not entirely the individual's fault for being fully dependent on their parents and they are instead more so a victim of circumstance that's not 100% self-inflicted; here I'm mainly speaking about disabilities (physical and mental). However with all that being said, I commend you on distilling some major points which lead to this unfavorable condition/state, as well as postulating a tenable solution to avoid this pernicious outcome in a format that is able to be consumed by those with busy schedules and many obligations.
No, responsibility is learned through mistakes, if a child cannot make a mistake it inhibits them to actually at peace with themselves and not panic while making a mistake.
Nothing wrong with having fun and enjoyable hobbies. Know there's a time and a place for everything.
Maybe I am weird but I enjoy being a man child, I enjoy it more and more as I get older, now approaching 40.
I look like I am 25, very little stress and I have a lot of money because I saved a ton of money on all the junk that "real men" are expected to have.
The more people shame me for it the more I know I made the right choice. Seeing people get angry because I won't be someone's slave is vindication for my decision to live my life for myself.
You don't seem like a man child then and I mean this in an honest compliment way.
@@anancapcat4221 Well thanks, this is definitely a first for me.
I have been called a man child more times than I can count, for as many different reasons. The more I hear it the more it sounds like a compliment :)
If being a manchild means sticking to your hobbies, then I am a manchild aswell lol.
But you aren’t one. You had enough responsibility to earn and save money. And to pay rent live your life the eay you want. If anything that’s what being an adult is about, not shaping you to fit others but to shape yourself to enjoy the little time you are here.
I have so much money leftover, no loans, and am happy. Buy shit I like, pay my bills, pay my taxes, stick up to my mistakes, and do my responsibilities.
But if I am off work, I AM OFF WORK. So my phone is off, I don’t fucking care what kinds problem you guys are experiencing, when I am clocked in bother me all you want I will help where I can then.
And I love my job, but to keep stress at a minimum I have to seperate Private life from work life massively.
@@theakiwar9118 I can't lie, a bit of my financial well being comes from luck, but mostly I just didn't have a lot of expenses compared to the rat race kind of person.
It's amazing, when I talk about living life for your own sake and being your own best friend, some people look at me like I'm the most selfish a hole they've ever seen.
Women especially are not fond of the idea that I don't owe them anything and just want to do what is right for me. As if they are any different or better!
That's the great part of this life for us, it really doesn't matter how other people react so long as their ability to cause trouble for us is limited. Hence the beauty of ghosting, or systematic anonymity.
found the genius. even jesus and the tao te ching say that being a "manchild" or "oldboy" is the highest divine state of existence for man. (matt 18:2, tao chapter 55)
We've made adulthood unappealing. Who wants to grow up and be miserable, so many adult are miserable. Why would kids want to grow up?
The job and housing market are also horrendous. Never mind if people want to break off, the system is so broken it’s hard for them to. And it’s not even limited to “houses” but any living space like an apartment. Not exactly enticing people to move out when the “benefit” is a modicum of freedom, and the cost is becoming poor and living a stressful life as a result of wondering if you can afford food and rent.
Having tried and failed a couple of times, I'm becoming convinced that the 'competent' part just isn't going to happen for me. Believing the people who told me I was up to the challenge was the worst mistake I ever made. I want the suffering to end but I know it never will at this rate.
I’m really sorry you feel that way. I’m sure you’ll fix your problem eventually.
Man, it's not the end, it's not over, get help, therapist, friend, some body that you know well, and you will be okay
If I want to get better at adulting, I need to become more competent. I must avoid getting into more relationships until I gain independence.
@Esh Being a better adult.
on the other hand, it is important to take advantage of whatever situation you are born in to produce the best outcome. If people are cooking meals for you to focus on college this is not a bad thing! I think this advice is more geared toward people who are dependent on their surrounding and not on a path of growth.
“The greatest day in your life and mine is when we take total responsibility for our attitudes. That's the day we truly grow up.”
- John C. Maxwell
bro gave an entire speech about growing up and become a responsible adult and vouched for a cryptocurrency course 💀
It's incredibly hard when I have adhd and my parents have zero idea how to deal with it so they just decided to be strict just because their abusive parents thought them that way and it ruined half my life just because my mom and dad have their own traumas and they were manipulated to spread it to me and my siblings. I don't even have a wish to live at that point, how can anyone believe I can wish to take care of myself when literally all my dreams have shattered because my parents are learned to be slaves this society and I always knew I never wanted that. It's sad.
Not even looking at all the other issues, adhd alone hinders the process of growing up a lot, making us a bit of late bloomers, at least for me. was officially disgnosed with it last year.
Guys, if you have a healthy immune system. Go out and work. Earn money.
Things will change
@@Dispensationalism That only works for confident people. With my luck, I would get a grey job that will ruin my mental health more than it will help. All my life, I have been treated as a dog and the only time I didn't realize it, was when I was a legit kid asking if someone else has games on their phone. They taught me that life becomes what I do with and it's all my fault that I don't have money but that was the biggest lie of this generation. I don't depend on me, I depend from them and they taught me to be nothing more than a dog. How do they expect me to be a responsible adult? I know that because very few people from my family have own business and they were supposed to rise me to get them out of poverty? This is a legit circus. A comedy sketch. Movies that we watch have more logic than what my "lovedones" believe it. The difference is, people get money from the movies and no one can teach me to make a movie for free. :(
@@MiximumDennis same here bro
But you know what?
If you start cleaning your room
Going to the gym
Preparing your meals
And simple stuff like that.
You will be no ones dog
Because trust me, nooooo one cares, if you are healthy, all that matters what you think of yourself.
@@MiximumDennis and what you think of yourself is going to change week by week if you start doing those simple changes
The only thing I couldn't do is successfully land a job. It's like this since January. I could cook, clean, and buy groceries on a budget, but landing a job is challenging.
I agree. In my case, I want to get a job and be free financially and start my own life separated to family. But I cannot, my family do not want it, I cannot leave grandma alone so I have to be patient for now. I admit I am anxious about my future, work opportunity and capability once my grandma dies. I'm probably gonna end up miserable as them.
Maybe you can learn a trade while taking care of grandma.
Or better your education. Take classes online or learn a hobbie through UA-cam.
You know man. If you are 18, you can leave. You have no obligation towards anyone. You can leave at any moment. No one has the right to dictate your life. It’s your choice to stay not theirs. Once you are adult no one has the right to decide your future but yourself.
So don’t wait until you are 40 or whatever. Use your time
I wish there was an 8 hr version of this, or even a book that covered similar themes. This video sums up exactly where I want to go in life and who I want to be. Brilliant!
there’s a 40 minute video by eternalised called puer aeturnus that is this video but more in depth and waaaay more melancholic!
Just look up Jordan Peterson's lectures and books.
I'm sure that there's a book out there somewhere.
There is this book called the new complete book of self sufficiency. I still haven't read it, but it looks good.
My bad, this book is about surviving in the woods and living autonomously. There are other books on life skills, though
I have chronic anxiety, depression, severe trust issues, no self esteem, get panic attacks and just struggle on my own. I still live with my parents and I’m 24 and honestly, I don’t plan to seperate or move out nor do my parents really want that, I ain’t a women-child but sometimes I feel like I am. I live independently but still with them because I don’t have a lover and living alone I know my mind will kill me and my Mum can’t stand the thought of me moving away either
I do my things independently and while I don’t pay my own bills and groceries since my parents deny to let me, I do however help my parents out, mainly my Mum just ask of me to help her with things like clothes and medical expenses because of her lupus. We are trying to see about splitting bills a bit but my parents just feel happier with me being here and I am too
I'm surprised this video didn't cover the biggest issue concerning actual people taking personal responsibility. Which is when your legitimately responsible for another life and not just your own. Too many people are "free" to have casual sex but never take heed to the responsibilities it inevitably comes with nor plan for it.
The problem with forcing someone to not use coping mechanism, is like making them more vulnerable into getting into addiction.
Yet on the other side there is an epidemic of "independence" that tells mothers that they are suppose to do everything on their own. The sickness of separation, which is living a lie. For no human existence by themselves.
Life is hard but the best moment of my life is being able to go off and become independent. I would always talk about how much I cant wait to get older and think about what possible life I would live back in highschool, and while its not exactly as pictured, I wouldn't be satisfied with it because I have most of what I always wanted. I grew up in a house of 8, and although I miss those times, I couldn't wait til I had my own space and got my life started. I'm spending it with a partner and we live together in our first house now. It's definitely an adventure.
So happy for you! Wish you spend this time of your life as wonderful as ever!
We exist forever, remain youthful in spirit, heart and thought. Nothing matters. There is no man-child, only the perception of one.
Lies, there is no such thing as living forever. Besides, death is inevitable!
@@zshah3107no such thing as living forever so why should my life be miserable while it lasts??
Interesting. Don't you think that this is complicated by cultural context? In many parts of the world today, and throughout the world for most of history, people could never earn such freedoms. What's described here is the independence created by a developed mass-commerce society, where dependence can be shifted from the community to the market and government, using money as an exchange. In the past you would have remained dependent on your close community members for support, your father's trade for a job, and your family's connections and marriage choices for other lifestyle determinants. Becoming an adult wasn't exactly about independence, but something more like becoming able to support others close to you, while everyone remained dependent on one another. Now the systems that you're dependent on are huge institutions, which are farther away, and which will always accept your money rather than needing you to be a certain way personally
Great point. The term "interdependence" comes to mind.
Exactly. You're only free when you live alone in the boonies, in a house you built yourself, grow your own food, chop your ow firewood, make your own clothes and don't depend on money. This video calls freedom a simple dependence on government.
@Tracchofyre You're definitely onto something here. I'm not sure either, but I know you're onto something. It's capitalist thinking in a capitalist society. I feel very strong until I step out into the world and am around my peers. In their eyes I am weak because I value different things than them. It's very disheartening to think and feel so differently.
American society makes me sick. I need to get out but don't have the money to do so.
And yes, our "community" now is all a popularity contest and how many material things one can own and who one dates. It's about status. We no longer care about each other. Many people seem to think they do. But I don't buy it. It's a deeper societal issue that most aren't even aware of
I am a bit scheptical about personal responsibility. it is true that you have to assume your own responsibility, however most of the time , when someone talks abut personal responsibility is masking and reducing group/colectivity/society problems to an individualistic level.
I liked how you emphasized that adulthood is mostly about responsibility, accountability and competence on fulfilling oneself's needs. Often when we think about adult-children we think about Marvel/DC/Disney/Anime/Manga adults. I came from a mildly-privileged upbringing and despite not having to work trhough my education my family made sure I was a competent adult.
I used to punish myself for having "childish" hobbies (like Pokemon video games) but I've recently come to terms that being an adult is not about denying yourself from the things that made you happy as a kid. Adulthood is, like you said, a state of competence, we can enjoy anything fun and quirky as long as we're competent enough to provide those treats for ourselves and, of course, not become addicted to them.
Brilliant video. I'm actively trying to be more competent and independent because I've been too protected growing up. Good animation and you can see a lot of effort put into this video. Well done.
Thing about the rich/spoiled kid is that it's very easy for them to get into relationships. Sometimes they inherit the family business, while the poor, more responsible person ends up with nothing aside from student loan debt and a failing and ever changing job market..
It's nice to get assistance from family, I do agree that it gets taken for granted by spoiled people.
1. Get a job.
2. Live on your own.
3. Don't talk to anyone.
Invest a years worth of salary into a randomly chosen cryptocurrency too
3. wtf
jobs dont pay enough
4. Save up and learn skills necessary to live off grid
A miserable life, got it 👍 explain why this isn't true
I've lived on my own for 10 years with a job and my own things, pay my own bills etc. The thing that really kills me is that no adults seem to do anything other than work out or go to church. Everything else is for money. To me life feels dull and hopeless like if we're not working we're wasting our time. It's not fun and the free time is painful and depressingly lonely.
I was a spoiled kid, and event today's day i'm being called spoiled child, because i still live with my parents at my 25yo, but that is because i have a good relationship with my parents and as they say "you don't have any responsability" in the way i have no childrens, but that doesn't mean i did not provide for my house.
This is exactly why we don’t have Christmas everyday. You won’t value it if it’s always rainbows and sunshine. Christmas is so special because it comes once a year. That’s exactly how everything else in life works. Love this message 👏🏽
Isn't it more like attempting to maintain an illusion? People will therefore find some temporary relief for a time.
"You won’t value it if it’s always rainbows and sunshine."
Because humans have not yet evolved for long-term comfort, if the same condition persists, they will experience less emotion for that.
Stop watching sports , listening to music, watching movies and tv shows then its all waste of time man childish then, watch just 1 movie once a year, listen to just 1 song once a year , you should not feel good and pleasured by doing these things every other day then.
@@aks8953tf are you talking about?
@@mishal2k557 Mans is spitting facts, wym?
That's not even fucking bad, I wish I WAS A MAN-CHILD, HECK, I had to work/learn my ass off in this life HARD since 12 y.o to 30 NON-STOP, every "luxury" I earned was just me being stubborn with my desire to get them as nobody else could, economically, poor parents, only basic needs where met, also I had to take care of a good chunk of their debt, even now I have to help them a lot, because they are old 🤷♂. I developed a few mental health issues, stress at it's peak, depression, etc.
So yeah, I would gladly want to get 1-20 as being taken care off and having a proper life and then learning, rather than exposing myself to so much stress and not having any childhood.
"The man is fully dependent on others, he is a man-child, as long as he remains dependent, he will never be free"
Let's see how much freedom you will be getting from a 5-30 years mortgage, I'll rather be a man-child for an eternity, then to get through the suffering since 12, no impactful guidance, trying a bazillion things just to see what sticks to my brain, learning on my self (thanks for the internet at least) anyways, my point is, if you HAVE an option to STAY man-child/women child for longer, FUCK don't rush on "being an adult" PLEASE DON'T FUCKING RUSH, ENJOY EVERY SINGLE BIT OF YOUR YOUTH. Don't let such BS videos dictate you what the "social norms" are.
I hope kids watching this actually understand the concept of revolting vs being hard-headed and running away. I was hard-headed and it led to many problems for a few years. Luckily im past it but I felt this way when i was younger, without actually having my own stability.
When responsibilities present themselves, I take care of them like an adult. When I have some downtime, I WILL play video games like a kid.
Simple.
@@GodlyTails-fm8fv is just like that People like to complicate things
I also want to add that someone who has a job, car, house and children are not always mature.
The key I think is that freedom is an elusive concept. The naive thought is that freedom is unilateral and something above the collective. But it is the collective, the family, the neighborhood, the community, that provides freedom. Therefore if you want that freedom, you need to contribute to the society that brings you this freedom. This goes through the social contract (which I don't accept as a true contract but rather a moral background where you are forced to navigate).
By taking responsibility, you are bringing value to your society. If you want society to provide you, you must bring value to the society first. And then when the tree bears good fruit, you will be able to demand the means to maintain the good fruits, since it will be valuable for others. Freedom is a two-way relationship. Therefore I liked a lot the concept of revolt in this sense.
Freedom. We aren't free.
@@traiascacodreanu4553 yura negative Nelly
You aren't putting the collective above yourself by finding mutually beneficial relationships. The family and the neighborhood are direct obstacles to freedom that must be overcome otherwise you will end up a slave to them. Sure you will need to work for them at some point but their interest are never imposed on to you as the individual. The collective does not come above the individual.
No. The more independent you are, the more unattached you are to society and the less responsibilities society takes for your wellbeing.
Two extremes of this would be a very disabled person needs money from tax payers to live (other people taking responsabolities) but a completely independent person who built its own houses and water systems in a mountain doesn’t own society anything and doesn’t have to contribute in any way more than not attacking others
Society brings you responsabilities, not freedom.
This is how I felt after I moved out of my parents’ house at 24 in 2014. It was a bit Rocky at first but I was able to find my place and become self sufficient.
Then in 2017 I got married. Over those 3 years I’ll admit, I did slide a bit. Fast forward to today, we’ve been separated/divorced(pandemic stress was a huge contributor). Now I’ve grown far more self sufficient than when I was pre marriage.
I was able to quit porn, alcohol, caffeine overconsumption(briefly). And I gained spiritual growth thanks to Buddhism.
I would not have done any of this if we were still together. Sure I have my low moments but overall I’m happy with how self sufficient I have become!😀😀
This is exactly what Jordan Peterson has been saying all along. You can't talk about rights without talking about personal responsibility.
What?
Jordan Peterson wants you to give him money so he can sit on his ass while you grind yourself to the bone for people who are actively hostile towards you.
Thank you so much for this message, I realize that I'm having many issues as an adult and I look for other stuff to cope with this situation instead of taking responsability of my own needs, from now on I will do my very best for my family and also myself, God bless you all and have an amazing day.
This video spoke volume to me. Thank you!
I suffered from severe depression and social anxiety disorder during my youth and everytime I tried to learn something my parents (and many times my peers) used to belittle me or scold me for every little mistake. Now I am clinically recovered but I feel I didn't learn many things and I don't know where to start from.
This sounds like me and i just turned 18 2 weeks ago. There is still time to change and learn what you want to do. The past doesn’t matter rn, it’s what you can do in this moment.
Same. Here. When you been scolded so damn much, your mind teaches you to avoid mistakes. So I started learning from people who encouraged mistakes and I got more comfortable making them.
I personally think the biggest thing is having responsibilities as a child. It both teaches you how to handle responsibilities on your own, and also provides skills that make your life...just better. EVERYONE should know how to clean, cook, do laundry, etc. by 18, but the number of people who don't is absurd.
I grew out of this at 32 years of age. I lost a lot, but I did gain immensely from this transition. I owe this journey to my wife, C.G. Jung and Dr. Jordan B Peterson.
We need to be accountable for our thoughts, choices, actions, and stop making excuses or blaming others for everything. Set achievable goals, build ourselves, and not be so needy or co-dependent, etc. Life is hard, but it's also a lot of fun!❤️
See I completely agree with this. My issue is when I casually play some video games on my off time with my friends or go to anime/video game conventions and people call me man child because I still like anime and videogames.
I personally believe in healthy gaming and moderation. I can still play videogames and binge watch anime but still take care of myself and my everyday responsibilities. It just takes some planning.
Too many people seem to have the idea that if someone into geeky stuff like videogames, anime and trading card games then that automatically means their man/woman child.
Yeah the video is great, but your tastes should not define who you are (as long as these "tastes" dont harm anybody obviously)
College isn’t mandatory. It could result in a BIG hinderance in your life if you’re unsure what to do. Many people just go bc it has become a “social norm” but that “social norm” is a BIG investment
“Make sure your employees are paid and taken care of”. There’s a lot of rich man children businesses out there.
Freedom without responsibility is like Chaos
As somone who turned 18 recently, to be honest I’m still feel like a teenage and sometimes I’m scared because I’m literally a adult now and yet I’m still in senior high. Another things I’m happy about that I can cook really well,I can walk to very far places to buy food for my house chores,I can clean and great thing is my older cousin and I have a deal, if I get good grades, she will pay me since she is paying my scholarship. im currently saving and earning money because I wanted to start small cafe in summer where I can sell cold brew bottles so I can help the bills.
Reason why I wanna do this because my mother and grandma isn’t that rich so we tend to ask our relatives money and food, my mother tried to find a job but nobody accept her, she has a stroke recently and her siblings are spending so much money for her recovery, my scholarship etc. I felt guilty because I felt helpless about everything that why I wanna start a student business but I able to grew my passion of making coffee so I do enjoy it.
Even though I’m already independent but my down side is that my communication skills is trash , I also have really bad focus problem where I got distracted and space out easily. Also my reading skills is also bad
You ARE a teenager. It’s normal for 18 year olds to be in highschool. The only thing that makes them an “adult” is the law saying it which almost means northing. Chill out. But it’s great ur independent. Ur still growing
Uh, you ARE still a teenager......
I like this video, because its a warning against what can happen, if you " just let things happen"
that being said, if anything, I regret being too ambitious. I blindly accepted a lot of (false) advice growing up and never spent enough time " discovering who I was" when I was younger. I had to learn certain truths, as an adult.
1. No, you do not need to go to college, learning a skill is more important.
2. It is okay to question the "American dream" especially if you are using outdated definition of American dream.
3. Do not compare yourself to past generations. The baby boomers grew up during one of the biggest economic booms in not use American, but in world history. If you are like me and born in the 1980s, you will not live to see an economy as strong as American baby boomers.
4. "being cool" is something to outgrow. I was often told that being cool/popular was something to aspire to. I am a middle aged man and most people my age are struggling to pay the bills. No room to be or worry about being socially acceptable, when you are working over 40 hours a week and struggle to pay the bills.
5. Its a good idea to question a lot of the so called common wisdom. A lot of the advice I was given, may have applied to mid 20th century America, but not today. For example, I was often told, that to get a girlfriend, just go out (anywhere, a grocery story, a church, a library, college) and just talk to women. I have gotten a lot of negative feedback from that. I suppose in my grandparents time, a man just went to a local dance hall, saw a woman standing by herself and just invited her to dance with him, and there you go, they are sweet hearts.
6. One of the most important things I ever did for myself was realize I had to ditch most of what I was taught growing up. This meant realizing I was often given bad advice and had to seek out answers on my own. I do not expect to get married, have kids, buy a house. Many of the things my parents did, will not be accessible to my generation. No, this next generation will have more questions than answers.
this video is kinda bullshit cus most high paying jobs are given to people either through a direct relative connection or friend connection. So that " growing up " mentality, and do it all yourself, grown mentality is false. All you are doing is redirecting your dependence from your parents to other people via connections to jobs, events, whatever.
I've always despised the mindset that maturity = always working. Maturity comes from a combination of self-awareness and self-reliance, which do have to be taught to someone during their formative years through the cultivation of healthy and constructive habits.
I love how this video takes on problem. Not shaming people for being so and so, but kindly explaining why is bad for person and how it will help person to be independent. It's vibe love and care for people not just shaming to feed in inner demons. Love that thank you so much for your kind work
"But if you start responsibility for your own needs, you become more competent. And by becoming more competent you become independent. And by becoming more independent you gain the ability to revolt. And only when you have the ability to revolt, are you truly free."
WOW.
I know right
We are all dependent on each other. I would imagine it's pretty hard to be 100% independent and self sufficient.
Definitely not when you are dependent on the local power plants electricity output, your towns waste and sewage management system, your town water supply and the like.
We are a collective and while individualism is important we can’t forget that other peoples work is letting us live the way we do.
Sure we are paying for them but it doesn’t mean shit if for example the waste management people protest and there’s noone to take our trash.
Infrastructure is dependent on others maintaining it