Lords of the Fallen - Walkthrough Part 1: Redcopse Village

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  • @FightinCowboy
    @FightinCowboy  Рік тому +111

    The devs have made some pretty significant changes since launch so while this walkthrough will still guide you close to Platinum you may encounter less enemies, bosses that have been changed, and additional loot that needs to be farmed.

    • @Fearmocker
      @Fearmocker Рік тому +6

      Can I ask, what side quests aren't completed on this playthrough? I was going to do a NG+ 0 and wondered what quests I may need to do differently

    • @FightinCowboy
      @FightinCowboy  Рік тому +10

      Damarose which is part of infernal ending should be it

    • @RideShareRocks
      @RideShareRocks Рік тому

      This looks amazing. How is this game tied to xborg esports? I saw the token IDO on their launch page.

    • @BlackXanthas
      @BlackXanthas Рік тому +3

      You only get i frames getting ONTO the ladder as soon as youre ready to climb you can be dragged down with melee if low enough or fall off with ranged.
      As always mate love your work.

    • @rooster1996
      @rooster1996 10 місяців тому +1

      Did you enjoy this game? trying to fill my time before elden ring DLC but unsure if this game is worth it

  • @aynman171
    @aynman171 Рік тому +80

    Literally everytime a souls game comes out I always look forward to cowboys walkthrough. Literally the best thing ever

    • @erikferrara
      @erikferrara Рік тому

      I can't access parts 2-7. Do you know how?

    • @aynman171
      @aynman171 Рік тому +2

      @@erikferrara you’ll have to wait for it. They are timed releases so next part will probably release tomorrow. It’s one walkthrough part a day

    • @ricardodarcangelo2437
      @ricardodarcangelo2437 Рік тому

      Yeah, AFTER I've gotten through sections on my own, these WT's are great watching. Or, if there's specific things I'm looking for, after an area is done.
      It is definitely much more enjoyable to go through the game on your own, and maybe referring to previous section walkthroughs on the way.
      CB is great for helping new/unsure players get the hang of games, and great for dissecting all the secrets!

    • @aynman171
      @aynman171 Рік тому

      @@ricardodarcangelo2437 yea love that I can just relax and play through the game without worrying for platinum and have fun. Once I’m done i love the idea of a whole walkthrough there and how he teaches us little tidbits on how to deal with certain enemies aswell and I’m always in awe like oh wow you can deal with him like that aswell

    • @williamunsworth933
      @williamunsworth933 8 місяців тому +1

      Thanks cowboy for all your hard work doing all these walkthroughs the best streamer on UA-cam ❤uk😊

  • @zaydbhula1161
    @zaydbhula1161 Рік тому +82

    I won't lie. First time I'm watching your video, and late at night. The voice was so relaxing I feel asleep. Just so peaceful

    • @Squillaempusa.
      @Squillaempusa. 10 місяців тому +4

      You should check out Vaatividya's vids on elden ring lore. Just as soothing, if not more so.

    • @bamcr1218
      @bamcr1218 6 місяців тому +2

      @@Squillaempusa.How.Dare.You.Sir?How dare you!?
      I’ll say once more; how darest thou?
      With all due respect, knowest thou not Mr. Cowboy has no equal when it cometh to ASMR speech? You should be ashamed of thyself for uttering such nonsense.

    • @JaredLetoSelfSuck
      @JaredLetoSelfSuck 5 місяців тому

      @@bamcr1218you’re a grown man please don’t ever type like that again

    • @danieljader8958
      @danieljader8958 8 днів тому

      sus

  • @peterkoncz
    @peterkoncz 11 місяців тому +54

    Souls like games are so hard for me that exploring on my own is too stressful to enjoy it. Following your play through is the “easy mode” for me. Thank you!

    • @NuTzU1775
      @NuTzU1775 6 місяців тому

      well, lords of fallen it s not like an easy mode of souls game , not a big deal

    • @887Bingo
      @887Bingo 6 місяців тому

      Lol

  • @ericJspicy
    @ericJspicy Рік тому +69

    Exciting! Stunned by and appreciative of all your hard work, Cowboy. Thanks for always maxing out my enjoyment of these games!

  • @DJxGameHunter
    @DJxGameHunter Рік тому +34

    I’m not a fan of using walkthroughs for a first playthrough but after 5 hours in this game, I feel like I need to. Axiom is massive and the umbral world just adds so much.

  • @Klaatew
    @Klaatew Рік тому +529

    I really don’t care what anyone says, Lords of the Fallen (performance issues aside) might be the best soulslike we’ve ever seen. Lies of P was fantastic but Lords of the Fallen has that exploration factor. It’s so incredibly good.

    • @void_god
      @void_god Рік тому +55

      Lies of Dogshit was nowhere near LOTF. this is another realm. One of the best games I have played even if not looking through the ‘soulsborne’ lense

    • @danryan1611
      @danryan1611 Рік тому +41

      @@void_godlies of P has better bosses. LOTF bosses all push overs

    • @void_god
      @void_god Рік тому +27

      @@danryan1611 lies of p has really some of the worst boss designs ever.

    • @ethanwintersseveredhand
      @ethanwintersseveredhand Рік тому +12

      @@danryan1611no, lies of Ps bosses suck because all of them has double phases.

    • @danryan1611
      @danryan1611 Рік тому +48

      @@void_god git gud?

  • @RAILROAD1125
    @RAILROAD1125 Рік тому +6

    I picked up this game last night. I played a little of the zone blind on my own, then watched this to see what I missed. I have not missed anything yet, so that's promising. Thanks for doing this!!

  • @ZEFFYRooo
    @ZEFFYRooo Рік тому +45

    Tip for everyone: If you feel the need to pause the game to focus on watching the walkthrough, press start to open the equipment page and press the left stick in. This will activate Photo Mode and it pauses the game.

  • @sneakywasabi
    @sneakywasabi Рік тому +17

    A walkthrough already! Cowboy doing cowboy things. Legendary, as always! Thank you!

    • @monipie
      @monipie Рік тому +2

      Cowboy makes me feel okay with dying over and over again.

  • @jeremybandell1176
    @jeremybandell1176 Рік тому +12

    Just had to become a member. Kicking my own ass that I should have done this sooner. Awesome work on everything you've done for this community.

  • @steveklausmeier9002
    @steveklausmeier9002 2 місяці тому

    The amount of prep work you do for these Walkthrough videos must be insane!! The details you include in your commentary are excellent, very thorough. You have a special gift to be able to play through and narrate so well, while following notes at the same time. Your work has helped me to enjoy properly so many of these games. Thank you!

  • @johnsebastianespinosa987
    @johnsebastianespinosa987 Рік тому +22

    I'm an avid fan of this guy. I get references to all of his videos when it comes to souls or souls like games. Very helpful and informative. Keep up the good work Cowboy! 🤘

  • @anbu_unknown1155
    @anbu_unknown1155 10 місяців тому +2

    I used your videos for some parts of Dark Souls 3 and now I am using it for any tough parts in Lords of the Fallen really underrated game imo

  • @jrprzybylowicz
    @jrprzybylowicz Рік тому +39

    Cool, just like back in the day, playing some area and then checking with Cowboy what I missed. I remember the Demon's Souls castle area where he was describing the cleanliness levels of his rectal cavity 👌

  • @jakelancey4769
    @jakelancey4769 Рік тому +1

    It's truly amazing that you've already beat the game and started a 100% walkthrough. I just started Tuesday night. It's a great game so far

  • @AngryShibaKing
    @AngryShibaKing Рік тому +2

    New follower to your channel. I haven’t met a souls-like that has grabbed me (love dark souls and elden ring though)… and I would of never even have this game a shot had it not been for your videos. I’m hooked now and I’m grateful! So glad we have a high(ish) quality AND fantasy-based souls like to play!

  • @gb9884
    @gb9884 Рік тому +82

    "What is happening deputys it's your man cowboy here."

  • @andrewgarcia4171
    @andrewgarcia4171 Рік тому +2

    @fightincowboy, idk if anyone has mentioned it yet but, at 14:20 in this video you are looking for the stigma that appears after you defeat the Lightkeeper. There will be stigmas in all the locations you battle him leading up to the final round at Upper Calrath. Also very important NOTE. You cannot get both “a Trace of Venom” and “Vengeful Reflection” trophy in the same play through because they void each other out. Thanks again for all that you do and I know they are so many confusing things about this game.

  • @Axelrun1994
    @Axelrun1994 Місяць тому +3

    "make sure you have at least 1 unripe berry for the quest".... me a scholar and a gentleman who ends up finishing the game on pure hatred and perseverance without using consumables.

  • @shadowraziel69
    @shadowraziel69 Рік тому +1

    Been a fan of your content for a while and omg i was looking, after my first run for a platinum guide and voila you are here ehehe, also you just released an umbral build, you rock !!!!!! Thx a lot !!!!!!

  • @JamesWendellDavis
    @JamesWendellDavis 10 місяців тому

    You know whats crazy, the original LotF game that came out back in like 2014 was the first time i discovered your channel. Been around since then and now watching this walkthrough from you is crazy. Like weve come full circle now cowboy lol love ya man! Keep up the awesome work!

  • @Nocturnal9720
    @Nocturnal9720 Рік тому +21

    1 thing about the pustules on the walls you break with the lamp, they give a good amount of vigour about the same as the basic enemies in here and over time it can add up

  • @HervisDaubeny69
    @HervisDaubeny69 Годину тому

    Second time going through this series. (Bravo btw, you did a phenomenal job, got me 17 achievements and made navigation a breeze.) Followed along with a new character after beating the game for the first time. This time however, I’ll be going back to my first guy and work on getting all the collection achievements, (as well as the Adyr ending). Wish me luck on this collection journey!

  • @kingdurin4925
    @kingdurin4925 Рік тому +1

    My mann cowboy finally, been waiting to follow this walk-through with you, been doing so since dark souls!

  • @sandybriggs2555
    @sandybriggs2555 Рік тому

    I beat the game on my own first. Got lost a few times and needed to look up a few things for direction. But now I've started a new play through. Gonna use these videos to do side quests and find items that I missed. And I'm on your 3rd walkthrough video and there's already a few things I missed. Thanks for the time and effort you put into these guides. It's very appreciated!😮

  • @punwik1
    @punwik1 Рік тому +1

    LORDS is pretty Awesome! Already on NG+1 and still not sick of it like alot of other games

  • @vegansauce8003
    @vegansauce8003 Рік тому +5

    It must take you ages to write all your notes for the walk through, you’re amazing for you walkthroughs you helped me platinum sekiro.

    • @tommyknaggard6298
      @tommyknaggard6298 Рік тому +1

      He streams the walkthrough prep if you want to see how he does it!

  • @carsonsnipes2422
    @carsonsnipes2422 Рік тому

    Love it when you do walkthroughs I’ll watch yours over everyone else been watching 100% walkthroughs

  • @jmd4free628
    @jmd4free628 2 місяці тому

    I've used you for every 100% walkthrough of all the soulsbourne series, stoked to go on another journey with you my friend.

  • @Jambiiiii
    @Jambiiiii 6 місяців тому +1

    This game didn’t seem very popular when it came out but just by judging off this first video I’m already sold on it.

  • @willrushton1119
    @willrushton1119 Рік тому +25

    It’s great to be back, sir. Used your walkthroughs for EVERY game and I got through them now it’s time to bang this out let’s goooo I was even looking for your name too lmao “these guys are clowns, where’s cowboy”? 😂

    • @wasgoodmyguy9454
      @wasgoodmyguy9454 Рік тому +1

      Ong lmao plus all of them are no commentary 😂

  • @bruciferjordan2067
    @bruciferjordan2067 Рік тому

    I just gotta say ty cowboy you have helped me through every souls game and souls like game for years!!! This is my most recent.

  • @chasemelies8597
    @chasemelies8597 Рік тому +1

    Love these juicy 30 minute episodes!

  • @Waldo_ZA
    @Waldo_ZA Рік тому +1

    Woop Woop! Thanks CB; much appreciated. Gonna give it a blind playthrough first though for the experience, and as you've mentioned - it is highly recommended to play it through first.

  • @jackyeis3728
    @jackyeis3728 6 місяців тому

    I'm new to the souls games, amd you my friend are a Saint. DS1 was AWESOME, and your walk through was a huge help at points, and taught me a great deal for NG+. Great stuff dude, dub thee "souls dad"

  • @Xbigxhatxloganx
    @Xbigxhatxloganx 5 днів тому

    I’m stuck so I’m consulting the boi 😂 THE COW BOY 💯 my guy has a 100% guide in every souls game.

  • @DeadlockMarkIV
    @DeadlockMarkIV Рік тому +4

    Hey brother, I just wanted to say that I've been a fan since your DS2 Sotfs walkthrough and you have been immensely helpful through multiple games. You're the first and only guide channel I check out for these games and I just wanted to say thanks. I saw you were hosting the new Q&A for LotF and I got genuinely excited haha. Keep it up dude, I'm a huge fan of you and your content. Also I'm just now seeing all these other comments showing love and it's well deserved.

  • @loganmclaughlin8356
    @loganmclaughlin8356 7 місяців тому

    I don’t watch or keep up with your other content tbh which is sad since you are THE GOAT for souls like content! Absolute legend man I can always rely on Cowboy!

  • @iKentine
    @iKentine 10 місяців тому

    Man this dude's voice is like butter, or a warm cup of hot chocolate on a cold winter day.
    Subbed just for that.

  • @chazclark86
    @chazclark86 3 місяці тому

    Was gonna take your advice but I have a few games coming in the mail and I’m doing 3 runs of lies of P then diving into this. I like both the lets plays and the walkthroughs, I’ll not remember everything, but I’ll remember enough haha! Absolute champ

  • @executeorder6623
    @executeorder6623 Місяць тому +6

    For anybody still watching this series, the light reaper no longer respawns at the beginning. Hope this helps.

    • @angbald
      @angbald Місяць тому

      Helped me. Thanks so much❤

    • @LichlordAzazel
      @LichlordAzazel Місяць тому

      Where does it respawn now? I just playes it today and follong CBs walkthrough. Does it spawn on all the other location?

    • @executeorder6623
      @executeorder6623 Місяць тому

      Yeah in ng+ it spawns in the tutorial area

  • @trevorbelmond908
    @trevorbelmond908 4 місяці тому

    Just got the deluxe version today I'm so exited to have cowboy holding my hand through this journey just like he helped me with his bloodborne walkthough 😊

  • @vettstang
    @vettstang Рік тому +4

    Wow cowboy starting up the walkthrough and the lets play isn’t even finished on YT. Cowboy spittin these out like fire!!! 😮.

  • @tomaszgierek5445
    @tomaszgierek5445 Рік тому +1

    10:50 There is a purple flame in the circle, next to the vigor number, when you got enough points to level up your character
    11:00 It showed up, when you used the skull item

  • @SwangoZone
    @SwangoZone Рік тому +2

    I am so glad you are doing this guide!! Thank you so much man

  • @hellssurprise9338
    @hellssurprise9338 9 місяців тому +3

    Heya
    I'm in Umbral at 9:56 timestamp but can't lock on to the ghost woman?? Any hints how to lock on?? Do I have to come out of Umbral or do something to Umbral??

  • @brimstonebull
    @brimstonebull 7 місяців тому

    Lords is finally on game pass so here I am! So excited to follow cowboys walkthrough!

  • @fat3lwound
    @fat3lwound Рік тому

    Finally! This is what I was waiting for from you. My man’s Cowboy never fails.

  • @DemonKingHiei
    @DemonKingHiei 4 місяці тому

    Just recently got back into this game and can’t wait to go through again with ur guide. Ohhhh man my back log isn’t gonna like this

  • @twinlife8849
    @twinlife8849 7 місяців тому

    I just wanted to say I love ur tutorial. They help me enjoy these souls like games

  • @ReeceHeaton-ou8rr
    @ReeceHeaton-ou8rr 7 місяців тому

    Absolutely love this game, amazing combat, visuals are beautifully disgusting and disturbing, the idea of the lamp is a masterpiece in theory and they present it physically even better with the puzzles and hidden pathways along with the link to the enemies strength and that red hunter demon is a solid way to show how that realm is the enemies hope and birth place, its an amazing ying yang type feel in that their realm is being torn apart, dead and destroyed while ours used to be pristine, beutiful and peaceful.

  • @TJuice1986
    @TJuice1986 Рік тому +3

    Awe man, I’m psyched for this one!!

  • @christianparker3960
    @christianparker3960 Рік тому

    Thank you so so much for these walkthroughs I have seen and followed all your souls walkthroughs and just love your channel and all your hard work Cowboy. Thank you!

  • @joemurray
    @joemurray Рік тому +4

    Excited for this walkthrough. I got to the next place with the ladders and already got lost - all these mechanisms not working lol.

  • @ShadyPlumber
    @ShadyPlumber Рік тому +2

    Just finished my first playthrough......now time for a Cowboy walkthrough.

  • @fernandofromsuper3223
    @fernandofromsuper3223 Рік тому +2

    Gonna do this one after finishing my current run on Elden Ring Reforged, thank you as always Cowboy!

  • @tomasburian6550
    @tomasburian6550 Місяць тому

    Quality guide here, man. Good job.

  • @RippedChili
    @RippedChili 7 місяців тому

    Holy shiiieeee i watched your ds walkthrough like 10 years ago and searched for lords of the fallen and you popped up thats crazy

  • @Aregdior
    @Aregdior Рік тому

    Love putting these on as my Background Radio. Keep doing you!

  • @roddywhite3601
    @roddywhite3601 Рік тому

    So excited to watch this. Finally finished my blind play through.

  • @princehallel1320
    @princehallel1320 Рік тому +1

    Man! I've missed you! After beating Elden Ring, I went into depression waiting for the next great game.

  • @chriskotte8468
    @chriskotte8468 Рік тому +2

    What a great game. I think if this didn’t have any bugs and bad frame rate it would have a chance at game of the year. Some of the best exploration I’ve ever experienced.

  • @Pathf1nder25
    @Pathf1nder25 2 місяці тому

    That character creation goes HARD 🔥

  • @horrordaniel
    @horrordaniel Рік тому

    Hell yeah I was waiting for this! You sure got through this game fast cowboy!!

  • @mathewyaski
    @mathewyaski Рік тому

    Cowboy, you're a king. Love your content.

  • @trey_dizzle4161
    @trey_dizzle4161 9 місяців тому

    Just picked this up on sale. Can't wait to follow the walkthrough after I finish your bloodbrone series

  • @DethSaniel
    @DethSaniel Рік тому +1

    I will be watching after i get thru it on my own, but pilgrims perch had me raging almost. Died so many times

  • @skatervega7
    @skatervega7 Рік тому

    Finished the game yesterday and looks like I missed finishing like 4 questlines lol Here we go again! Thanks for these Cowboy!

  • @tiagohenriques7337
    @tiagohenriques7337 7 місяців тому

    Why is it, that every time i play a souls game, i come across you. Not complaining, in fact it's quite the opposite. I'm rather thankful for your playtroughs. So, thanks for the hard work you've put in to it, because of it noobs like me can Git Gud.

  • @nataniel1002
    @nataniel1002 Рік тому +1

    DAM BRO! The let's play BARELY got started! CHILL OUT MAN! XD

  • @thewgdbatman
    @thewgdbatman 6 місяців тому

    My favorite Souls-like guides! Lets do it Cowboy

  • @blazekiller93
    @blazekiller93 Рік тому

    been waiting for this, thank you cowboy

  • @somadas5097
    @somadas5097 Рік тому

    My goat is back🎉🎉🎉The return of the King

  • @jesusmolina7482
    @jesusmolina7482 7 місяців тому

    Love u cowboy been here since dsrksouls 2 it's nice seeing u doing this

  • @CamelMoonStudios
    @CamelMoonStudios 10 місяців тому

    Just finished your Demon's Souls tut. These are great. Loving LotF so far.

  • @jice7876
    @jice7876 Місяць тому

    Here we go.. another walkthrough with the best around!

  • @dylandeblois
    @dylandeblois 5 місяців тому

    Never played this game but I already enjoy watching you play it. Feels a bit overwhelming with two different worlds(dimensions)

  • @jadonj394
    @jadonj394 Рік тому

    Dude you nailed it with the face for that stash! 🤣 you look like Escanor from seven deadly sins

  • @Vert4Real
    @Vert4Real Рік тому

    Was mid demon souls playthrough when I bought this and thank god I always have you to rely on!! I missed an item in the first area😂 fightincowboy idk what I’d do without your walkthroughs

  • @AkrabSouls
    @AkrabSouls Рік тому +1

    First play through done, now time to platinum with FC !

  • @modyonir2806
    @modyonir2806 Рік тому

    So happy you did a walkthrough... I know can buy the game cuz it will ve much funnier now Thanks to you ❤❤

  • @MichaelHill-kz7db
    @MichaelHill-kz7db 7 місяців тому

    Thank you Cowboy the walkthrough help a lot on Lord of the fallen

  • @Vlad-em6tn
    @Vlad-em6tn Рік тому

    Thank you for all your walkthroughs!

  • @Dredwolfgamer
    @Dredwolfgamer Рік тому

    yes..im just starting this game on my channel cheers for the walkthroughs my man its always appreciated

  • @muaddib_uzul
    @muaddib_uzul Рік тому

    Your passion & dedication r amazing CB. Keep it up - frm Malaysia

  • @Surething-jt7zx
    @Surething-jt7zx Рік тому +1

    Little tip for new players if this is your first time soul flay that guy and hit the soul you will pop a trophy or whatever platform your playing on and it will get you used to it you will get it eventually but still helps to get used to soul flay

  • @BeTheVoid.
    @BeTheVoid. Рік тому +2

    I truly love these walkthroughs! thanks for taking ur time making them. Question tho, how often does the walkthroughs get uploaded? Sorry if i missed u already saying it. Thanks alot cowboy

  • @Striple.threat
    @Striple.threat Рік тому

    Thank you for explaining games better than the games explain the games.

  • @tanyadavies265
    @tanyadavies265 Рік тому

    The god of the soul series 🤠 keep up the good work ur content is Awesome 👏

  • @gatorb8
    @gatorb8 Місяць тому

    I'm watching this after cleansing the tower in the frost bell door because everywhere I go I'm now just going in circles lol

  • @Oppositesleeper
    @Oppositesleeper 7 місяців тому +1

    MASSIVE WARNING to anyone starting this.
    Nothing against this walkthrough its probably the most comprehensive online. HOWEVER
    It is far from 100%. Aside from the tons of stuff he vaugly talks about but doesn't show onscreen there are quite a few things in almost every category he misses. Some are caught in the comments if you take the time to read tons of them. Be aware you will be left with hours upon hours of hunting and checklists to figure out what was left out.

  • @christinelynnmagic865
    @christinelynnmagic865 Рік тому +3

    thank you for putting this out! I followed elden ring with you and I've been waiting to start this journey with you as well! 🎉

  • @MidasMusicofficial
    @MidasMusicofficial 7 місяців тому

    @fightingcowboy Really looking forward to my first playthrough today on Game Pass Series X…Will be referring to your excellent walkthrough while I do so. Big fan mate keep doing YOU!….

    • @willingbob
      @willingbob 7 місяців тому

      Nice comments and no hate of course but I’m pretty sure that the game got a pretty big rework

  • @coreyrinebold2916
    @coreyrinebold2916 Рік тому

    😂😂😂 to get this you need to farm cowboy I’ve got the platinum for all the souls games (thx to you. you have help me a lot) I’m ready for a massive grind for this platinum

  • @Creativem1nd69
    @Creativem1nd69 Рік тому

    Hello friends, welcome to the start of your journey on this playthrough. I highly suggest you play a little game for lots and lots of fun during your playthrough and take a shot of some alcohol everytime you want your character to pick up an item but they jump in the air instead. Good luck.

  • @TheTechStudioDev
    @TheTechStudioDev 10 місяців тому

    Dude, I love your videos. 🎉

  • @TheAkecheta
    @TheAkecheta 11 місяців тому

    Finished this game early December. I been wanting to do another playthrough mainly for NPC quest plus I really like the game. I decided to see if co op works and I was summoned 4 times for Pieta alone. I was even summoned to mid area levels. I was so OP before I even reached Pilgrim Perched.

  • @paranoyd70
    @paranoyd70 Рік тому

    These Walkthroughs are sorely needed by some. I've hit a brick wall and have no idea how to progress. I farmed to buy the pilgrim's perch key sold by a merchant and I only ended up getting into an area where I do little damage & get killed with only a few hits. I still hadn't even found the blacksmith yet. I appreciate the open world with its branching paths, but everything looks so similar that its easy for me to get confused & not know where to go.

    • @dillo408
      @dillo408 Рік тому

      Just Google the blacksmith location. That's what I did.

  • @MazisfrmDa901
    @MazisfrmDa901 Рік тому

    You sir are the best I feel so lost playing this game it doesn’t give u any sense of direction and I’ll keep running in circles or take a path that seems like it might be progression but it’s a long loop arnd