I wish I'd been around for the start of Classic. Unfortunately I was going through things at that time and didn't have a stable place to live until TBC dropped.
once in a multi generation, world altering event coinciding with the re-release of classic wow was the greatest timing imaginable. Hoping wow classic gets a resurgence, but I'm not sure it'll ever be the same again.
Whenever people are around I pretend that covid was so terrible. ngl tho, I worked a total of maybe 50% of 2020 - 2022 combined. The rest of the time they sent me home. Everyone else was home as well so there was no work. Still full salary. And on the days I had to come in there was no traffic, sometimes I saw 10 cars in 30 minutes. Petrol was super cheap and people kept their distance. It was lit as hell imho.
The ideal WoW in my opinion would just be Blizzard allowing community-made servers to be hosted as official ones. There are a lot of private servers that have had better ideas that Blizzard in the past years. It would open up the possibility of so many things, kind of like the Skyrim or Soulsborne modding communities.
As someone who never leveled horde 1-60 in classic, I’ve been having such a good time leveling on deviate delight on an undead priest. I’ve been taking it slow. I joined about a month into the movement and though it’s greatly slowed down, I’m currently level 35, doing all the zone quests on horde side, a lot of which I’ve never done even though I mained horde in WOTLK - Retail. I’ve been leveling all 5 professions as I go, exploring zones in more detail instead of taking the fastest routes, etc and it’s the most fun I’ve had in vanilla / WOW all together in SO long.
I've said it many times before and I will say it many more times in the future: The hype before and the release of Classic and the first 3-4 months after it were by far the best and most fun time I have ever had gaming and it will most likely never be beaten.
Yeah it’s hard to recreate anything like that. You just don’t get to give people a 15 years of video game culture orgasm like that. WoW had such a legacy, it was the shit in the 00’s
The fact that even in SoD they try to race through leveling shows they don't understand people who love classic. Part of the magic of classic is each level you hit feels like an accomplishment. Getting to level cap isn't viewed as when "the game starts"
100% agree. I think they did this because this is a seasonal server though. The timescale is super compressed for the amount of content/changes they’re releasing, and a big part of the appeal is class balancing. They know people will want to try several different classes but will only have a short window to do so.
Hot take though... SoD>Regular Vanilla. SoD did fix a lot of issues regular Vanilla had and adding things that made it much funner imo. Where they missed the mark was not adding a skill based pvp ranking system.
To be fair heaps of people were bitching about keveling arts and getting runes again after doing it once. I felt like that too but i just went back to retail instead. The grind isn't super appealing more than once a decade
And think of how many specs were unplayable in regular Vanilla. Boomy, Ele, Ret, Shadow...exc Everyone went oom so fast it was ridiculous in regular Vanilla. Also a lot of people glorify the classic talent tree because it gives you the option to play hybrid builds. Runes did that even more so! You could be a Boomy with wild growth, a Frost Mage with some Fire Runes...exc. People like to jump on hype trains and ban wagons when they hear people talk about stuff in wow without stopping to think for themselves. SoD wasn't perfect but it's received way more hate than it deserved. MoP was a great expansion and hot take so was WoD if you like RBGs. Those were the best metas for RBGs. PvEers got bored with WoD because they didn't have enough dragons to slay but it was one of my fav expansions for me. I also might be bias though because I main Druid and Feral was INSANE in WoD lol that was when they had the Thunder Cat Form and could cast spells/heals in Cat Form.
I've known you since the early days of Classic and while I don't play WoW at all anymore, I believe there are many like us that will always keep an eye out for any kind of Classic+ announcement. As official hardcore servers have shown, there is just something about the kind of community the original WoW world encourages and is able to retain past the hype of launches. On a side note, congratulations on your journey! Your conclusion was heartwarming, I wish you success for the years to come ! (also ye should have advertised your LoL channel more maybe
Would play classic 2019 version again, this game is amazing. Played multiple fresh servers and it was always fun. Just remember to take breaks between fresh servers to not burn out.
I started watching (and subscribed) during the "Was it any good" series. It helped me a lot, and provided a great review of how things worked in Vanilla. I watched every video in the series at least 5 times. I also enjoy your voice, presentation of the information, and the general tone of it all. I'd like to see a Vanilla-classic-only server that would progress and fix the class issues: sort of like SoD, but more alt-friendly beyond phase 1, and more "expansions" within the world itself. Originally, Hellfire Peninsula was the planned endgame zone, before they made it a separate expansion. I'd like that, and for them to keep going, broadening the vanilla world, without really leaving it. Thanks for all your videos. I've enjoyed watching, and still do. :)
I'm so proud I was one of the 280,000 people to sign the petition!😅 Didn't play wow at the time due to university, and never played classic at all, but I'm happy to have made a difference.
On the exact day of the fith anniversary my raiding group/guild wich i've been playing with since phase 1 of classic disbanded for good. It wasn't running very good since the end of wotlk but cata sadly put the final nail in the coffin. Seeing this video just gives me chills remembering all the good times i had with this game and even though blizz is not the company it once was and they did some huge mistakes in the runtime, i will always be thankfull to them for the amazing time i spent in this game and meeting the awesome people i did...
I've had a lot of fun reliving Classic-WotLK, at Cata I decided to stop as it no longer felt like the Classic I loved. I still like to play SoD but I'd kill for a proper Classic+
Love the videos, I don’t play much of any games anymore, just been too busy. But enjoy watching the videos while I go on with my day doing other things.
People need to remember that raid logs are NOT unique raiders. Cata’s popularity might be high…but it also might be much lower than people think. That might be why blizzard seems to still prioritize sod over Cata.
Honestly in my opinion I think what they should do is reset the servers once cata is at its end. Stop right there don't go any further because it's not classic
Based on the number of people I see on my server its still very popular. Maybe the servers have condensed - but its not just we're struggling. And with the sudden disappearance of many bots the game has actually improved quite noticeably. I mean more people play Cata then SoD. So Blizzard's favouritism isn't due to the numbers.
Thank you for this video. It brought to mind many things. I remember on August 27th 2019 getting on my server and dealing with the shear enormity of players who were trying to do content. The first year was amazingly wonderful for me having never played vanilla. The second year less so as bots and gold seller/buyers began to have a major impact on the game. When they announced TBC classic, I set up one of my toons to move forward but didn't/wouldn't play to have it cloned. Made two guilds (1 horde, 1 alliance) in TBCC and was having the best of both versions since I dropped our of retail because of BFA. I saw they announced the end of the clone service but I still didn't clone my toon in classic. A few months later, a patch came out and all of a sudden, my toon was no longer an inactive clone but a playable character. Guess I got lucky. TBCC morphed into WotLKC but it didn't seem right. I started wow in WotLK and it seemed to me stuff was missing. The 'seasons' never interested me. When I thought of Classic Plus, I thought of new races, new startup areas, new professions, and new quests to supplement the old ones. Seasons heralded classic with retail features which I just didn't care about. I gained the impression that Blizzard cared less and less about doing a quality release for classic and more and more about their in-game shop. When they announced Cata classic, they also indicated my server would be retired. There would be free character transfers but I lost my guilds. Between that and the infiltration of the gate-keepers into my 'casual' guild in vanilla classic, I gave up on Blizzard and now get my wow fix on private servers.
8:40 Oh me too. I miss those days a lot. Dungeon spamming with my guild for rep, questing on the side, doing professions for the pre-raid bis, raiding kara in multiple guild groups, seeing who would kill the final boss first. Gruul/mag... Oh I so want to go back
I didn't get to pay classic 2019, because from all the friends group I was the last one playing and just didn't feel like it. But SoD gave me the opportunity to enjoy classic as well as meet some good new friends. Thanks to the red hoodie guy in 2013 and to you all.
Been enjoying SoD so much in the recent year, taking it also with a different approach since its a seasonal - more as a game and not a minmaxing tryhard workish game. And I just love it. Definitely recommend it to anyone else. Just take a step back, dont take it too serious and really discover. Even though you think you do (lmao pun intended) know the world enough, I was surprised myself when I started paying attention to the small things and more of the RPG side of the game. And the fact its the predecessor of Classic+ is also a plus cause the feedback from what ppl enjoy on SoD will be important in making the Classic+ era much better than what it would be without this part of the journey. Its just my personal view, but wanted to share it with someone, cause ppl take SoD as a final product when in reality is a playground for us and the devs as well. :)
TBC was also the expansion where if your main income was from dailies, Epic Flying was a massive pain to actually get, so even later in the expansion money still meant something if you weren't one of the people who dungeon-spammed until 70 and then promptly complained about having nothing to do. :P
Loved that bit you talked about at the end. I didn't play Classic "back in the day", but I always wanted to see what it was all about. I never knew where to start, and your Was it Any Good? series is what got me to try Classic when it re-released. Fair to say within a week of playing, I fully got why it has taken off all those years ago. Super glad I found your channel :--)
I'm glad that the timing and opportunity worked out for you that your youtube channel took off and gave you an alternative way to make some extra money. You make great content and have soem good opinions, so keep it up and congrats again on your success.
It was a weird ride. All we wanted was vanilla, then we got a pleasant surprise with tbc and I figured that was it. Somehow the train keeps going on though and now we are here in cata. Although I didn’t play wrath or cata, it just shows you the power fans have when they use their voices.
Man I don't even remember when I started watching you. I actually didn't play classic at all but I watched a ton of your videos. I know I at least watched your "Is It Any Better?" TBC class series as it came out. I had big plans to be an ele shaman PVP god because those videos but that didn't end up happening 😂 Here's to 5 years of classic WillE! And here's to another 5!
Enjoyed your videos ever since i came back when Hardcore launched. I always loved classic WoW and i played it in its original state quite excessively. Really enjoying the SOD servers so far and playing with my own pace in a relaxed manner and my favourite classes with a little twist. Keep up the good work!
i dont play classic but i like watching your videos because theyre both entertaining and keeps me updated on whats going on in classic. hope to see more from you in the future and you should try guild wars 2 some time if your looking to branch out.
Been watching since the beginning. Keep the videos coming. I'm down with other games being covered. I enjoy listening to your thoughts about Classic and WoW in generatl.
i absolutely love cata, but the complete lack of resources for it from blizzard is really depressing and off putting. not to mention the playerbase getting butchered from milking the dungeon patch as a standalone phase.. lol
Ummm did you play cata back in the day? Reminds me of the same game lack of support lol I still love cata regardless and enjoying it round 3 for me Apollo had me for awhile
Bro I just want to play TBC again, playing lock being the best lock in my guild and getting first Vestments of the Sea Witch, nothing feels as good man.
You know, the idea of WoW classic was lost on me once the moved it into the WotLK era. From this point onward, WoW was so streamlined that there was no more motivation for me to continue in Classic. Imo they should have frozen WoW classic in its BC state before the WotLK launch patch. I really enjoyed to finally play the rather difficult, slow and sometimes clumsy vanilla WoW once again, and also the whole BC era - but with WotLK the game became, well, casual, and at this point you could also return to the regular game.
I’d absolutely love for it to just go back to fresh vanilla and restart the trilogy. Understandable that most people probably don’t want to restart the hamster wheel, but for me, the comfort of not having to worry about a random closure of the private server where you’ve invested time, is so great. I’d really just like to always return to the game in a moderately healthy state. Era is just kind of a nightmare atm. Highly doubt any of that will ever happen, but they’d have my money if they did.
Im of the opinion that there should have been a legacy server after each expansion or at least a seasonal server that refreshed every 1.5 - 2 years or something like that. So you can always jump back into the server you want, and if it reset every year or so there would always be people looking to jump back in while its fresh as opposed to a server thats been out for years and youre so far behind. Just my opinion but I think many people would also enjoy this system
Congrats on 5 years, you remain the best of the ClassicWoW UA-camrs..maybe even WoW generally really because there aren't many that do old school proper youtube videos not just twitch highlights. I can't help but notice that classic has kind of lost its steam a little though. Not sure if this is just because of Cataclysm or whether it was always going to be an ephemeral moment in gaming.
I think I've missed the best times in wow, which is legion and classic 2019 launch. I hope there will be something big coming to classic soon... Bought TWW and I regret it after just hitting 80, not the game for me. Not gonna play cata or mop classic, waiting for fresh vanilla server or something new
I am in the same boat with SoD. I love troll stuff. Heck, my main Cata character is a troll with troll transmog. ZG is pure hype for me. The original 20mans are imo the greatest raids on Classic.
Bring back "real" TBC and Wrath. No boosts, no tokens. It just destroyed the game. Why not monetize it through pets, transmogs, and mounts ONLY? I would love era servers for TBC and Wrath. I know it would probably be too much to ask but even having a single rotating server for Vanilla through Wrath.
I think Cata would be the best stopping point for following the normal WOW footsteps. This is the point there they can start to add different kinds of events and zones in the world. This is the step where they could change the Deathwing fight and might lead into a completely different Warcraft lore.
I'm really enjoting SOD at the moment. I like MC, I love the fact they made new sets for the different specs of classes with multiple roles. I can finally wear my tier set without actively griefing as a DPS Warrior! Finished is the era of wearing a hodge-podge of leather mail and plate just because itemization was terrible. I love the runes and how snappy they make the gameplay feel. I love what runes are doing to PVP. I took a big break when my first guild disbanded at the end of phase one, but I'm very glad I came back for MC and the lvl 60 raids in general.
The more the classic version moves towards the current retail version, the more players will leave the game and eventually join the original classic era or seasonal servers.
What should a new player do? I am interested in classic, but it and SOD is probably dead for leveling? So should I go for retail and TBC chromie time instead, to play the game in order?
I am totally convinced, that there won't be new MoP expansion. Cataclysm is the slow sunsetting of new Classic expansions, MoP remix was here just to make people go through the classic experience at an accelerated rate and they'll just abandon this thing altogether, before they meet with the inevitable WoD Classic meme/conundrum. Classic+ is definitely where it's at, and I think they'll keep on expanding on that concept. Even after switching from Vanilla to TBC i felt like I moved way too close to retail than I wanted.
"magical and unrepeatable moment" this is why launches are such a big deal. Nothing else captures that specific experience than a launch. And is why Blizzard is such an asshole for paywalling TWW launch night.
In all honesty, I've been enjoying cataclysm, but then again, I started in wrath (on a private server) and stayed there from 2010 until 2020 (I played classic, but also played the private server), so playing TBC and cata is incredible...(And I really hope it eventually reaches BFA, I played the tail end and P1 of shadowlands, BFA was fun, but SL soiled the taste for retail for me...)
Kind of funny how it goes full circle. Your video pokes a little fun at J Allen for saying who wants to replay the old game, then you say the exact same thing around the 7:00 mark....
Something I kinda miss about the old willie videos is the “willie here” and the gnome poking out in a random place.
Hope the day finds you well!
Agreed, loved pointing out the Willie 👩🦲
1 TBC & 1 Wrath server is what we need for the large percentage of players who have no interest in Cataclysm and beyond.
And they should add RBGs to those servers!
man it has been 5 years. time went by so fast.
time is just a blur since covid... we'll blink and it'll be 2030.
Because weve been playing wow the whole time!
If you were 15, now you are 20! Thats a long time. Not for me ofc 28--> 33. Im just older🫠
covid lockdown playing classic wow phase 1 - 2 was so fun
Covid happened around P5. Close to the AQ gates. It was a crazy toxic but fun time
Toxic? you were on the wrong Server.
Phase 1 and 2 were in 2019 - early 2020, months before the lockdown. lol
Lasted for bwl-early tbc for me. That was gaming Valhalla
I wish I'd been around for the start of Classic. Unfortunately I was going through things at that time and didn't have a stable place to live until TBC dropped.
Covid lockdown classic was the peak of my gaming career fr
once in a multi generation, world altering event coinciding with the re-release of classic wow was the greatest timing imaginable. Hoping wow classic gets a resurgence, but I'm not sure it'll ever be the same again.
We need another pandemic!!
we gotta bring back covid man
Whenever people are around I pretend that covid was so terrible. ngl tho, I worked a total of maybe 50% of 2020 - 2022 combined. The rest of the time they sent me home. Everyone else was home as well so there was no work. Still full salary. And on the days I had to come in there was no traffic, sometimes I saw 10 cars in 30 minutes. Petrol was super cheap and people kept their distance. It was lit as hell imho.
Fr I found my soulmate and played wow together with covid , 3 and a half years later going strong
RIP TBC
RIP TBC & Wotlk
best expacs ever
Yeah I remembered wrath being better back in the day but I had more fun in TBC classic than wrath classic.
@@MethSloth only when staying out of the raids
@@MethSloth ugh running auchindon dungeons again & again long boring hallways of copy paste for little rep
@@talmbout7779 TBC raids were fun.
want a TBC era server :(
Just go private servers
Its proven you cant trust you character even to a blizzard so why dont just go legacy
Warmanes Onyxia server is going to TBC in a month or 2. Try it out
I don’t know why they don’t keep a few servers per expansion
@@kahowka is that really the same though? I can't imagine them being as populated as the top servers.
@@kahowkaprivate servers in general are stupid but TBC servers die notoriously quick. We’ve never seen a real long lasting TBC era.
lets go back to TBC !!!
The ideal WoW in my opinion would just be Blizzard allowing community-made servers to be hosted as official ones. There are a lot of private servers that have had better ideas that Blizzard in the past years. It would open up the possibility of so many things, kind of like the Skyrim or Soulsborne modding communities.
TBC, wheeeeere aaaare you? we miss you.
I never said goodbye, that means I'll see it again right?
As someone who never leveled horde 1-60 in classic, I’ve been having such a good time leveling on deviate delight on an undead priest. I’ve been taking it slow. I joined about a month into the movement and though it’s greatly slowed down, I’m currently level 35, doing all the zone quests on horde side, a lot of which I’ve never done even though I mained horde in WOTLK - Retail. I’ve been leveling all 5 professions as I go, exploring zones in more detail instead of taking the fastest routes, etc and it’s the most fun I’ve had in vanilla / WOW all together in SO long.
I've said it many times before and I will say it many more times in the future: The hype before and the release of Classic and the first 3-4 months after it were by far the best and most fun time I have ever had gaming and it will most likely never be beaten.
Yeah it’s hard to recreate anything like that. You just don’t get to give people a 15 years of video game culture orgasm like that. WoW had such a legacy, it was the shit in the 00’s
The fact that even in SoD they try to race through leveling shows they don't understand people who love classic. Part of the magic of classic is each level you hit feels like an accomplishment. Getting to level cap isn't viewed as when "the game starts"
100% agree. I think they did this because this is a seasonal server though.
The timescale is super compressed for the amount of content/changes they’re releasing, and a big part of the appeal is class balancing. They know people will want to try several different classes but will only have a short window to do so.
Exactly. It's a marathon, not a sprint. Many players don't want fast-food-games. It's this rushing through content that made me quit when I quit.
Hot take though...
SoD>Regular Vanilla.
SoD did fix a lot of issues regular Vanilla had and adding things that made it much funner imo.
Where they missed the mark was not adding a skill based pvp ranking system.
To be fair heaps of people were bitching about keveling arts and getting runes again after doing it once. I felt like that too but i just went back to retail instead. The grind isn't super appealing more than once a decade
And think of how many specs were unplayable in regular Vanilla.
Boomy, Ele, Ret, Shadow...exc
Everyone went oom so fast it was ridiculous in regular Vanilla.
Also a lot of people glorify the classic talent tree because it gives you the option to play hybrid builds. Runes did that even more so! You could be a Boomy with wild growth, a Frost Mage with some Fire Runes...exc.
People like to jump on hype trains and ban wagons when they hear people talk about stuff in wow without stopping to think for themselves.
SoD wasn't perfect but it's received way more hate than it deserved.
MoP was a great expansion and hot take so was WoD if you like RBGs. Those were the best metas for RBGs.
PvEers got bored with WoD because they didn't have enough dragons to slay but it was one of my fav expansions for me. I also might be bias though because I main Druid and Feral was INSANE in WoD lol that was when they had the Thunder Cat Form and could cast spells/heals in Cat Form.
I’m so mad I missed on BC Classic…
It was a good time, but such a time sink. I must have spent full days farming Motes of Air in Nagrand.
seems tons of people want another tbc classic server.. personally it's my favorite version of wow. Maybe someday..
Play sod. I feel like tbc will eventually happen.
@@kevintees6517 I wish you’re right!
Oh man that’s a bummer. TBC was amazing
End of vanilla--> Nostalrius launch: 2965 days
Nostalrius shutdown date --> Today: 3000++ days
stop
That's actually mindblowing
😢
@@1999evo why should he stop kid
@@rashid2898 making me feel old is all. wtf is ur problem fuck bag
Been watching you for a long time now and must say your videos are by far the most informative WoW videos I’ve watched. Please keep you the great work
I've known you since the early days of Classic and while I don't play WoW at all anymore, I believe there are many like us that will always keep an eye out for any kind of Classic+ announcement. As official hardcore servers have shown, there is just something about the kind of community the original WoW world encourages and is able to retain past the hype of launches.
On a side note, congratulations on your journey! Your conclusion was heartwarming, I wish you success for the years to come ! (also ye should have advertised your LoL channel more maybe
Would play classic 2019 version again, this game is amazing. Played multiple fresh servers and it was always fun. Just remember to take breaks between fresh servers to not burn out.
I started watching (and subscribed) during the "Was it any good" series. It helped me a lot, and provided a great review of how things worked in Vanilla. I watched every video in the series at least 5 times. I also enjoy your voice, presentation of the information, and the general tone of it all. I'd like to see a Vanilla-classic-only server that would progress and fix the class issues: sort of like SoD, but more alt-friendly beyond phase 1, and more "expansions" within the world itself. Originally, Hellfire Peninsula was the planned endgame zone, before they made it a separate expansion. I'd like that, and for them to keep going, broadening the vanilla world, without really leaving it. Thanks for all your videos. I've enjoyed watching, and still do. :)
I'm so proud I was one of the 280,000 people to sign the petition!😅 Didn't play wow at the time due to university, and never played classic at all, but I'm happy to have made a difference.
I signed, too! 👍
Imagine there is still some retards retails Andy who are saying that it’s not cause of private classic exists 😂 pathetic trash on their dead ass gsme
i signed that petition as well :D
You didn't make a difference. Online petitions don't mean shit.
@@peterk.rosenthal1417 ok, boomer☺️
On the exact day of the fith anniversary my raiding group/guild wich i've been playing with since phase 1 of classic disbanded for good. It wasn't running very good since the end of wotlk but cata sadly put the final nail in the coffin. Seeing this video just gives me chills remembering all the good times i had with this game and even though blizz is not the company it once was and they did some huge mistakes in the runtime, i will always be thankfull to them for the amazing time i spent in this game and meeting the awesome people i did...
Mine ended long before (back at the end of bwl) but I still got the same feeling. I miss my guild
Keep it up, Wille! Glad you were with us through the years on this Classic journey. Looking forward to many more!
I've had a lot of fun reliving Classic-WotLK, at Cata I decided to stop as it no longer felt like the Classic I loved. I still like to play SoD but I'd kill for a proper Classic+
feels unreal it is 5 years already, summer 2019 was best time in my life I think
That's so sad dude
@@Madlux14 i am sad
@@FABENE145 because all you do is play wow at home. You need a hobby that gets you outside
@@Madlux14 why?
@@Madlux14 or maybe they're just young
J Allen Bracks face in that clip just reeks of contempt for the players and it turns out we were right 😂
Thank you! You've been a fantastic content creator for wow and I hope you keep going for years to come!
Great videos, great 5 years Wille! Thanks for the amazing content. Please continue.
Love the videos, I don’t play much of any games anymore, just been too busy. But enjoy watching the videos while I go on with my day doing other things.
I hope they will give us TBC era server in the future
Yes tbc not anything above though
People need to remember that raid logs are NOT unique raiders. Cata’s popularity might be high…but it also might be much lower than people think. That might be why blizzard seems to still prioritize sod over Cata.
Honestly in my opinion I think what they should do is reset the servers once cata is at its end. Stop right there don't go any further because it's not classic
catas popularity is low af
@@neugassh3570 cata sucks XD
Based on the number of people I see on my server its still very popular. Maybe the servers have condensed - but its not just we're struggling. And with the sudden disappearance of many bots the game has actually improved quite noticeably.
I mean more people play Cata then SoD. So Blizzard's favouritism isn't due to the numbers.
@@neugassh3570 Just as it was back in the day. Cata ruined whatever connection many players still had with the original spirit of WoW.
Feel like Ive been watching you for decades now not just 5 years
Rip nostalrius those dudes did some great work
8:30 well third time lol can’t forget WoD as much as we want sometimes
Nost was special. It was the best time ive ever had in a game and i miss it.
Thank you for this video. It brought to mind many things. I remember on August 27th 2019 getting on my server and dealing with the shear enormity of players who were trying to do content. The first year was amazingly wonderful for me having never played vanilla. The second year less so as bots and gold seller/buyers began to have a major impact on the game. When they announced TBC classic, I set up one of my toons to move forward but didn't/wouldn't play to have it cloned. Made two guilds (1 horde, 1 alliance) in TBCC and was having the best of both versions since I dropped our of retail because of BFA. I saw they announced the end of the clone service but I still didn't clone my toon in classic. A few months later, a patch came out and all of a sudden, my toon was no longer an inactive clone but a playable character. Guess I got lucky. TBCC morphed into WotLKC but it didn't seem right. I started wow in WotLK and it seemed to me stuff was missing. The 'seasons' never interested me. When I thought of Classic Plus, I thought of new races, new startup areas, new professions, and new quests to supplement the old ones. Seasons heralded classic with retail features which I just didn't care about. I gained the impression that Blizzard cared less and less about doing a quality release for classic and more and more about their in-game shop. When they announced Cata classic, they also indicated my server would be retired. There would be free character transfers but I lost my guilds. Between that and the infiltration of the gate-keepers into my 'casual' guild in vanilla classic, I gave up on Blizzard and now get my wow fix on private servers.
Always love seeing a new WillE video pop up, so thank you for working hard to make excellent content my dude 👌🏼
8:40 Oh me too. I miss those days a lot. Dungeon spamming with my guild for rep, questing on the side, doing professions for the pre-raid bis, raiding kara in multiple guild groups, seeing who would kill the final boss first. Gruul/mag... Oh I so want to go back
I didn't get to pay classic 2019, because from all the friends group I was the last one playing and just didn't feel like it. But SoD gave me the opportunity to enjoy classic as well as meet some good new friends. Thanks to the red hoodie guy in 2013 and to you all.
Happy to say I’ve been along for most of the ride WillE. Keep up the great work!
when 11:21 came around I went to the comments expecting to see one from MadSeason saying "Told you so by the way"
They need to make a fresh Classic chain
Nice work brother.
Congratulations on the channel anniversary!
Been enjoying SoD so much in the recent year, taking it also with a different approach since its a seasonal - more as a game and not a minmaxing tryhard workish game. And I just love it. Definitely recommend it to anyone else. Just take a step back, dont take it too serious and really discover. Even though you think you do (lmao pun intended) know the world enough, I was surprised myself when I started paying attention to the small things and more of the RPG side of the game. And the fact its the predecessor of Classic+ is also a plus cause the feedback from what ppl enjoy on SoD will be important in making the Classic+ era much better than what it would be without this part of the journey. Its just my personal view, but wanted to share it with someone, cause ppl take SoD as a final product when in reality is a playground for us and the devs as well. :)
TBC was also the expansion where if your main income was from dailies, Epic Flying was a massive pain to actually get, so even later in the expansion money still meant something if you weren't one of the people who dungeon-spammed until 70 and then promptly complained about having nothing to do. :P
I was kinda surprised at how much money I got from questing tbh.
Loved that bit you talked about at the end. I didn't play Classic "back in the day", but I always wanted to see what it was all about. I never knew where to start, and your Was it Any Good? series is what got me to try Classic when it re-released. Fair to say within a week of playing, I fully got why it has taken off all those years ago. Super glad I found your channel :--)
I'm glad that the timing and opportunity worked out for you that your youtube channel took off and gave you an alternative way to make some extra money. You make great content and have soem good opinions, so keep it up and congrats again on your success.
It was a weird ride. All we wanted was vanilla, then we got a pleasant surprise with tbc and I figured that was it. Somehow the train keeps going on though and now we are here in cata. Although I didn’t play wrath or cata, it just shows you the power fans have when they use their voices.
There’s so many WoW channels with crappy narrators. You do a good job brother. Keep it up!
Love your videos! Thanks for the entertainment and information these last five years
Good video thanks for the information. It was nice to see how much has changed in the last couple of years.
Love you buddy, thanks for everything!
Stick around WillE your relaxing collected personality is invaluable to the classic comunity!!!!
Always loved your vids wille. One of the most coherent wow channels on youtube
Man I don't even remember when I started watching you. I actually didn't play classic at all but I watched a ton of your videos. I know I at least watched your "Is It Any Better?" TBC class series as it came out. I had big plans to be an ele shaman PVP god because those videos but that didn't end up happening 😂
Here's to 5 years of classic WillE! And here's to another 5!
Enjoyed your videos ever since i came back when Hardcore launched. I always loved classic WoW and i played it in its original state quite excessively. Really enjoying the SOD servers so far and playing with my own pace in a relaxed manner and my favourite classes with a little twist. Keep up the good work!
Thank you for doing this Mr. Wille!
Till you`re 90.
Keep doing what you love bro! cheers!
That outro bit is a real vibe
i dont play classic but i like watching your videos because theyre both entertaining and keeps me updated on whats going on in classic. hope to see more from you in the future and you should try guild wars 2 some time if your looking to branch out.
Been watching since the beginning. Keep the videos coming. I'm down with other games being covered. I enjoy listening to your thoughts about Classic and WoW in generatl.
i absolutely love cata, but the complete lack of resources for it from blizzard is really depressing and off putting. not to mention the playerbase getting butchered from milking the dungeon patch as a standalone phase.. lol
Ummm did you play cata back in the day? Reminds me of the same game lack of support lol
I still love cata regardless and enjoying it round 3 for me Apollo had me for awhile
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Already 5 years … time flys 😵💫
They should allow modding. That would create a TON of community content.
Bro I just want to play TBC again, playing lock being the best lock in my guild and getting first Vestments of the Sea Witch, nothing feels as good man.
You know, the idea of WoW classic was lost on me once the moved it into the WotLK era. From this point onward, WoW was so streamlined that there was no more motivation for me to continue in Classic. Imo they should have frozen WoW classic in its BC state before the WotLK launch patch. I really enjoyed to finally play the rather difficult, slow and sometimes clumsy vanilla WoW once again, and also the whole BC era - but with WotLK the game became, well, casual, and at this point you could also return to the regular game.
I’d absolutely love for it to just go back to fresh vanilla and restart the trilogy.
Understandable that most people probably don’t want to restart the hamster wheel, but for me, the comfort of not having to worry about a random closure of the private server where you’ve invested time, is so great.
I’d really just like to always return to the game in a moderately healthy state. Era is just kind of a nightmare atm.
Highly doubt any of that will ever happen, but they’d have my money if they did.
Amazing content Wille keep up making videos we love it
I am so sad. Such good times. I want to do it again. I would want to take new people with me. Share the old content. No changes where possible.
Im of the opinion that there should have been a legacy server after each expansion or at least a seasonal server that refreshed every 1.5 - 2 years or something like that. So you can always jump back into the server you want, and if it reset every year or so there would always be people looking to jump back in while its fresh as opposed to a server thats been out for years and youre so far behind. Just my opinion but I think many people would also enjoy this system
Congrats on 5 years, you remain the best of the ClassicWoW UA-camrs..maybe even WoW generally really because there aren't many that do old school proper youtube videos not just twitch highlights. I can't help but notice that classic has kind of lost its steam a little though. Not sure if this is just because of Cataclysm or whether it was always going to be an ephemeral moment in gaming.
I think I've missed the best times in wow, which is legion and classic 2019 launch. I hope there will be something big coming to classic soon...
Bought TWW and I regret it after just hitting 80, not the game for me. Not gonna play cata or mop classic, waiting for fresh vanilla server or something new
Don't sleep on The War Within.
@@DoAGoldeneye :D:D::D
Legion was booty. It was 90% dailies and world quests
It’s happening right now with the world soul saga. This is the beginning to a new era of WoW
@@Nwing2365 it's not even remotely the same game as folks who like classic play/played
Keep up the good work mate.
I am in the same boat with SoD. I love troll stuff. Heck, my main Cata character is a troll with troll transmog. ZG is pure hype for me. The original 20mans are imo the greatest raids on Classic.
Classic² soon.
modern blizz can't make any good games, the revenue comes from milking old ones
Bring back "real" TBC and Wrath. No boosts, no tokens. It just destroyed the game. Why not monetize it through pets, transmogs, and mounts ONLY?
I would love era servers for TBC and Wrath. I know it would probably be too much to ask but even having a single rotating server for Vanilla through Wrath.
Congrats! 🎉
I think Cata would be the best stopping point for following the normal WOW footsteps. This is the point there they can start to add different kinds of events and zones in the world. This is the step where they could change the Deathwing fight and might lead into a completely different Warcraft lore.
Nostalrius was special.
This week 9 years ago, i hit rank 14 on my rogue there. It was the best time ive ever had in a game and i miss it.
Nostalrious felt magical. It community felt eerily similar to the WoW communittly in 2004-2005.
Who cares about vanilla wow? Walking simulator.
Warlords of draenor, that's where the real gameplay is at
It’s been one hell of a ride !!!
Your Welcome and thank you!
Nostalgia on Tuesday morning
Congrats on the FIVE YEARS btw
I miss original classic, only version of classic that were worth it for me. :)
I'm really enjoting SOD at the moment. I like MC, I love the fact they made new sets for the different specs of classes with multiple roles. I can finally wear my tier set without actively griefing as a DPS Warrior! Finished is the era of wearing a hodge-podge of leather mail and plate just because itemization was terrible.
I love the runes and how snappy they make the gameplay feel. I love what runes are doing to PVP.
I took a big break when my first guild disbanded at the end of phase one, but I'm very glad I came back for MC and the lvl 60 raids in general.
Cheers Willie well done
Dude , wow classic is exactly classic . Keep the classic going’
Man I’m so jealous of people who got to be off work just playing classic during Covid.
The more the classic version moves towards the current retail version, the more players will leave the game and eventually join the original classic era or seasonal servers.
Classic Plus hype!
What should a new player do? I am interested in classic, but it and SOD is probably dead for leveling? So should I go for retail and TBC chromie time instead, to play the game in order?
"New hidden locations"... uhh... A thrown together dungeon and incursions? Oof. Sod promised so much and conned people into playing it.
Damn I'm early
Glad to be here folks
Great one 👌
I am totally convinced, that there won't be new MoP expansion. Cataclysm is the slow sunsetting of new Classic expansions, MoP remix was here just to make people go through the classic experience at an accelerated rate and they'll just abandon this thing altogether, before they meet with the inevitable WoD Classic meme/conundrum. Classic+ is definitely where it's at, and I think they'll keep on expanding on that concept. Even after switching from Vanilla to TBC i felt like I moved way too close to retail than I wanted.
Wille your a real one cheers!
"magical and unrepeatable moment" this is why launches are such a big deal. Nothing else captures that specific experience than a launch. And is why Blizzard is such an asshole for paywalling TWW launch night.
In all honesty, I've been enjoying cataclysm, but then again, I started in wrath (on a private server) and stayed there from 2010 until 2020 (I played classic, but also played the private server), so playing TBC and cata is incredible...(And I really hope it eventually reaches BFA, I played the tail end and P1 of shadowlands, BFA was fun, but SL soiled the taste for retail for me...)
Kind of funny how it goes full circle. Your video pokes a little fun at J Allen for saying who wants to replay the old game, then you say the exact same thing around the 7:00 mark....
Really wish they left a few tbc and wrath era. I only got to experience the last 6 months of tbc and wanted to raid on more toons in wrath.
What a journey
i was there for Nostalrius and i remember the day it shutdown what happened after was legendary