Thanks for sharing, John. Surprised Clemens and McGwire cards made the list despite their known PED past usage, but I guess that they are still popular with collectors.
Yeah, they and Bonds are still pretty popular with some collectors. And if any of them eventually make the Hall of Fame I think more people will be interested in their cards.
Hi John. Always enjoy seeing these episodes, as it shows us all where the buying market is at. Thanks for all the work you do putting these together. Talk soon my friend.
Thanks Brian! I know some collectors might not think 80s cards are vintage, but they are cards that I remember from my early days of collecting, so I enjoy doing a Top 10 list of them.
That Henderson is 10th place or first place? it takes a 1973 card , 1975 card and the fabalous late 70's to beat out card 482. I'm sorry but I don't agree with the rankings by e bay? I can see a 1984 Rickey Henderson being 10'th place but not 1980 so all over the US of collectors which card do you think most people own including opening wax packs in the day , opening wax packs today buying cards at shows and stores all over and till today the 1980 Henderson or his 1983 all star card? I like the Clemens is ok Tony Gwynn is great , Mattingly is great 1984 so is 1982 Cal Ripken which is a more popular card in the Hobby that 1985 Mcgwire or 1986 Donruss of Canseko?
These aren't cards that eBay ranks. I just list the cards that sold for the most amount of money from 1 to 10. So it's people who buy cards on eBay and what they pay for them that determine which cards make the Top 10 and where they rank within the Top 10. While the 1980 Rickey Henderson is by far more popular with collectors than his 1983 Topps All-Star card, the difference is the number of PSA 9 copies exist of his 1980 card versus the number of PSA 10 copies exist of his 1983 All-Star card. For people who collect Rickey Henderson cards and who want high graded copies of his cards, you rarely see a PSA 10 copy of his 1983 All-Star card. So when one comes up for sale like this one, people will pay more for it than his 1980 card in a PSA 9. As for the 1985 McGwire card and the 1986 Donruss Canseco card, I think overall today, the McGwire card is probably a little more popular just because of the excitement his rookie card got when he was going for Ruth's single-season home run record.
@@WadeBoggsFan I've seen Rickey Henderson PSA 9 rookie cards sell for, the same, or more than the PSA 10 Henderson '83 Topps All-Star. I guess it depends on the day. There's probably a lot more movement though, with the rookie than his '83. So, it wouldn't be surprising to see sales of the rookie being both higher and lower imo.
According to VCP, a 1983 Topps All-Star card of Henderson in a PSA 10 has only sold 2 times since 2020 and both sales were over $2,000. Meanwhile, there were 8 1980 Topps Henderson rookies in a PSA 9 that sold in just May alone. And the highest price paid for one in May was $1,896. The last time a PSA 9 sold for over $2,000 was back in March. So yes, there have been times where the Henderson rookie in a PSA 9 has sold for more than a 1983 Topps All-Star in a PSA 10, but it's only happened a few times in the past 12 months. And that's mainly due to the population counts. There are only 13 1983 All-Star cards graded a PSA 10, but there are 2,193 rookie cards in a PSA 9.
Some, like myself, still include 1980 as vintage since it was the last year before Fleer and Donruss made their appearances. But you make a good point that 81-89 is technically not vintage. Although that time period, at least up until about 87 when the "junk wax" era started, is somewhat in no man's land in terms of a definition. So I throw my videos of the 80s Top 10 into my other vintage videos.
I've got a few 85 and 86 Donruss factory sealed sets still in the original plastic wrapping. Bought them 30 years ago and I've had them in dry storage ever since. Are these sets worth anything. Are they worth more if fully wrapped at the factory and still fully wrapped?
I think that's a little too early for the junk wax era. It's named that because the card companies printed millions of cards because the demand for cards was growing. But they produced way too many for even that increased demand. The card companies really didn't start cranking up production until 1988. I know I couldn't always find packs of 87 Fleer or Donruss. But 88 Fleer, Topps, and Donruss were all over the place.
Nice! Yes, they are worth more in their original unopened state. Just like unopened wax boxes. In most cases, the value lies in what cards could be in the boxes and what grades they may be in. But if you open up a box, more often than not the value of the cards are less than what the unopened box would be. Same with factory-sealed sets. You know what cards are in there, but you don't know the condition (mainly how well they are centered). The value lies in the possibility that a key card or cards would be in great condition.
Thanks for sharing, John. Surprised Clemens and McGwire cards made the list despite their known PED past usage, but I guess that they are still popular with collectors.
Yeah, they and Bonds are still pretty popular with some collectors. And if any of them eventually make the Hall of Fame I think more people will be interested in their cards.
As Stanton said of the Lincoln assassination conspirators after their hanging, "let us say their names no more."
Thanks for doing the deep dive on this! Really enjoyed!
You're welcome! Glad you enjoyed it!
Hi John. Always enjoy seeing these episodes, as it shows us all where the buying market is at. Thanks for all the work you do putting these together. Talk soon my friend.
Glad you enjoy them my friend! 😀
Gave a video like - Fun to see all the top sales of 80's cards. Thanks for sharing
Thanks Brian! I know some collectors might not think 80s cards are vintage, but they are cards that I remember from my early days of collecting, so I enjoy doing a Top 10 list of them.
Another awesome video my friend 🎉
Thanks Ken!
That Henderson is 10th place or first place? it takes a 1973 card , 1975 card and the fabalous late 70's to beat out card 482.
I'm sorry but I don't agree with the rankings by e bay?
I can see a 1984 Rickey Henderson being 10'th place but not 1980
so all over the US of collectors which card do you think most people own including opening wax packs in the day , opening wax packs today buying cards at shows and stores all over and till today the 1980 Henderson or his 1983 all star card?
I like the Clemens is ok Tony Gwynn is great , Mattingly is great 1984 so is 1982 Cal Ripken
which is a more popular card in the Hobby that 1985 Mcgwire or 1986 Donruss of Canseko?
These aren't cards that eBay ranks. I just list the cards that sold for the most amount of money from 1 to 10. So it's people who buy cards on eBay and what they pay for them that determine which cards make the Top 10 and where they rank within the Top 10. While the 1980 Rickey Henderson is by far more popular with collectors than his 1983 Topps All-Star card, the difference is the number of PSA 9 copies exist of his 1980 card versus the number of PSA 10 copies exist of his 1983 All-Star card. For people who collect Rickey Henderson cards and who want high graded copies of his cards, you rarely see a PSA 10 copy of his 1983 All-Star card. So when one comes up for sale like this one, people will pay more for it than his 1980 card in a PSA 9.
As for the 1985 McGwire card and the 1986 Donruss Canseco card, I think overall today, the McGwire card is probably a little more popular just because of the excitement his rookie card got when he was going for Ruth's single-season home run record.
@@WadeBoggsFan I've seen Rickey Henderson PSA 9 rookie cards sell for, the same, or more than the PSA 10 Henderson '83 Topps All-Star. I guess it depends on the day. There's probably a lot more movement though, with the rookie than his '83. So, it wouldn't be surprising to see sales of the rookie being both higher and lower imo.
According to VCP, a 1983 Topps All-Star card of Henderson in a PSA 10 has only sold 2 times since 2020 and both sales were over $2,000. Meanwhile, there were 8 1980 Topps Henderson rookies in a PSA 9 that sold in just May alone. And the highest price paid for one in May was $1,896. The last time a PSA 9 sold for over $2,000 was back in March. So yes, there have been times where the Henderson rookie in a PSA 9 has sold for more than a 1983 Topps All-Star in a PSA 10, but it's only happened a few times in the past 12 months. And that's mainly due to the population counts. There are only 13 1983 All-Star cards graded a PSA 10, but there are 2,193 rookie cards in a PSA 9.
1980 and beyond is not vintage.
Some, like myself, still include 1980 as vintage since it was the last year before Fleer and Donruss made their appearances. But you make a good point that 81-89 is technically not vintage. Although that time period, at least up until about 87 when the "junk wax" era started, is somewhat in no man's land in terms of a definition. So I throw my videos of the 80s Top 10 into my other vintage videos.
@@WadeBoggsFan Some folks think the junk wax era started in 85. Any truth to that?
I've got a few 85 and 86 Donruss factory sealed sets still in the original plastic wrapping. Bought them 30 years ago and I've had them in dry storage ever since. Are these sets worth anything. Are they worth more if fully wrapped at the factory and still fully wrapped?
I think that's a little too early for the junk wax era. It's named that because the card companies printed millions of cards because the demand for cards was growing. But they produced way too many for even that increased demand. The card companies really didn't start cranking up production until 1988. I know I couldn't always find packs of 87 Fleer or Donruss. But 88 Fleer, Topps, and Donruss were all over the place.
Nice! Yes, they are worth more in their original unopened state. Just like unopened wax boxes. In most cases, the value lies in what cards could be in the boxes and what grades they may be in. But if you open up a box, more often than not the value of the cards are less than what the unopened box would be. Same with factory-sealed sets. You know what cards are in there, but you don't know the condition (mainly how well they are centered). The value lies in the possibility that a key card or cards would be in great condition.