I dug a SHALLOW WELL and was told I can't use it...

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    00:00 Our water isn't safe!
    03:52 Shallow well update
    05:44 Bleach and chlorine
    08:03 Ozone generator
    10:27 UV light
    13:53 Collecting water samples
    15:22 Our solution...
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  • @larrymesneak1334
    @larrymesneak1334 3 місяці тому +341

    I retired as a superintendent of a municipal water treatment plant so I have considerable knowledge of treating and testing the public's drinking water supply. I'm happy to say I would recommend what you are doing to fix your problem. The only suggestion I would make is to move your dog run to a location as far away from the well as you can.

    • @IvanNedostal
      @IvanNedostal 3 місяці тому +41

      And put some dirt into backyard to make slope, so water does not pool on top of well after every rain.... or even better, make clay / plastic umbrella so only water in the well is water prefiltered by ground, not surface water leaching down...

    • @teeing9355
      @teeing9355 2 місяці тому +6

      I was thinking the same about the dog run.

    • @garyhennessey3621
      @garyhennessey3621 2 місяці тому +3

      Can backyard chickens taint a drilled well 110' deep?

    • @IvanNedostal
      @IvanNedostal 2 місяці тому +2

      ​@@garyhennessey3621 Not properly "built" well can. There can be other relevant factors then ONLY depth. Well build to state / fed regulations should not have this problem. Regulation is usually the best saneness / price ratio solution to problem. See? Human freedom needs some regulation to stay in sane parameters. Unchecked freedom is harmful to LIFE ITSELF.

    • @IvanNedostal
      @IvanNedostal 2 місяці тому +5

      @@garyhennessey3621 Most likely no. But you can always test your water and should test your water yearly, you can't always know what is happening "upstream".

  • @WeekendHandymen
    @WeekendHandymen 3 місяці тому +584

    Step 1 in treating the water: MOVE THE DOG RUN!

    • @jamesirby4999
      @jamesirby4999 3 місяці тому +31

      1 st a particle & sediment filter ceramic filter then on to reverse osmosis now to add minerals to taste then drink.

    • @1979augistine
      @1979augistine 3 місяці тому +82

      Definitely move the dog crap away from your water source

    • @thefix2573
      @thefix2573 3 місяці тому +42

      Common sense, but not to city folk.

    • @ryancoates4054
      @ryancoates4054 3 місяці тому +11

      I agree

    • @larrymiller4
      @larrymiller4 3 місяці тому

      ​@@jamesirby4999🎯🛎️👍

  • @ZombieWoodturner
    @ZombieWoodturner 3 місяці тому +235

    i think the proximity of that dog run to you "well" might be something you could look at closer

    • @lordchaa1598
      @lordchaa1598 3 місяці тому +13

      My thoughts exactly

    • @InFlamesOfSorrow
      @InFlamesOfSorrow 3 місяці тому +2

      the dog run is where the water tank is i think, or am i wrong? i dont think anything from the dogs gets through that thick wall from the tank?

    • @lordchaa1598
      @lordchaa1598 3 місяці тому +7

      @@InFlamesOfSorrow , it does run down hill into their main pit though.

    • @InFlamesOfSorrow
      @InFlamesOfSorrow 3 місяці тому +5

      @@lordchaa1598 oh is it downhill from the dog run? didnt get that. well then MOVE IT! haha

    • @ralphswartz7961
      @ralphswartz7961 3 місяці тому +3

      I think that in one of the episode it showed that the water level of the cistern tank was the same as the surface water. If so, this condition needs to be corrected.

  • @chipjohnson3357
    @chipjohnson3357 3 місяці тому +143

    STRONG RECOMMEND a sediment filter before it goes to the big tank! Otherwise the bottom of your tank will fill with crap and you’ll have floaters in there too. The cleaner you can keep that tank the better! I love the combination method. For safety! I have UV in my house once for the whole house with the sediment filter and a second time in my reverse osmosis drinking water system.

    • @AmbitionStrikes
      @AmbitionStrikes  3 місяці тому +42

      Great point! We’re thinking about doing a settlement filter and settling tank before pumping into the main tank.

    • @N-hunter
      @N-hunter 3 місяці тому +35

      @@AmbitionStrikes For the settling tank, look at what Nate from Narrowway homestead has done. He has the outlet line for his tank on a float so that it draws from the middle of the tank, not the top or bottom. This should give you the clearest water out of the settling tank, because some debris will settle to the bottom and some will float to the top

    • @Dimka2
      @Dimka2 3 місяці тому +5

      @@AmbitionStrikesyou can also get those reusable pleat filters, if you have iron you might need to clean them with oxalic acid to clean iron off and then will look brand new, although if you are just using them as sediment filter just rinsing them is fine, would also recommend going with the big boy filters 4.5 x 20 instead of the 2 " filters, they last way longer

    • @TheStevedie
      @TheStevedie 3 місяці тому +3

      @@AmbitionStrikesI also second this!

    • @akdisney
      @akdisney 3 місяці тому +2

      @@AmbitionStrikes build a pump shed and power and Filter there

  • @TheKnifed
    @TheKnifed 3 місяці тому +37

    I work on commercial cooking equipment, I couldn't tell you how many times I've been called out for things not working and opening up the filters to find that the media still has plastic on it.

  • @youmeandtheD
    @youmeandtheD 3 місяці тому +99

    I'm sure you see going to do this in the spring, but raise the level of the ground around the well and get some grass coverage so that the water isn't a muddy soup above the well and the ground and plants are your first filter.
    Plus less mud.

    • @TheSighphiguy
      @TheSighphiguy 3 місяці тому

      I'm guessing thats all planned.
      just havent gotten around to the "dress-up" stage yet.

    • @IvanNedostal
      @IvanNedostal 3 місяці тому +1

      Exactly, it is totally ridiculous to have water pooling on top of a well. Water leaching from ground is already prefiltered, so contaminating it by surface water is such a basic, obvious thing that i am not sure if they are trolling us or what.

  • @johnhufnagel
    @johnhufnagel 3 місяці тому +143

    Only thing I can think of is, perhaps is a filter between the source pump and the ozone-treated storage tank, just to help keep as much stuff out of that tank as possible. Eventually I can see stuff getting into the storage tank and either settling or coating the tank walls.

    • @theheathkitshop2424
      @theheathkitshop2424 3 місяці тому +9

      My thought, too. You'd want to keep solids out of the storage tank, and external filter would be ideal. The only issue I could see would be the filter/pipes freezing in the winter.

    • @jamesa8851
      @jamesa8851 3 місяці тому +19

      Or just get a regular well and you don't have to make stuff up. Put in a real well with a filter system and move on. You just bought a 70k truck as an experiment. You can get a regular well. I feel like I'm watching fake drama when the answers to your problems have "well" established solutions.

    • @95dodgev10
      @95dodgev10 3 місяці тому +22

      ​@@jamesa8851they have stated multiple times why they didn't do a regular well. They're on a mountian so obviously solid rock everywhere to drill through. Certainly possible but takes longer therefore more cost. Also other wells in the area had to be drilled extremely deep and still yield a relatively small amount of water.

    • @ChrisWijtmans
      @ChrisWijtmans 3 місяці тому

      solid rock is a good natural filter though, go through the rock to get a clean water source. @@95dodgev10

    • @Tillyface89
      @Tillyface89 3 місяці тому +8

      Agreed I'd would add a sentiment filter just to cut down on dirt and junk entering the storage tank. Will make it easier long term to maintain.

  • @Adam-zq8fi
    @Adam-zq8fi 3 місяці тому +59

    I’m a water plant operator at an RO facility our main disinfectant is sodium hypochlorite (Cl2). The MCL (maximum containment level) is 4.0 PPM you have to establish at what point break point chlorination takes effect. Break point chlorination is the point at which the disinfection demand has been met, or all undesirable contaminants in the water have been oxidized. Going beyond break point chlorination increases the likelihood of forming THMs and other disinfection byproducts.

    • @garyh4458
      @garyh4458 3 місяці тому +4

      The Navy uses sodium hypochlorite to treat the potable water on their ships.

    • @Adam-zq8fi
      @Adam-zq8fi 3 місяці тому +5

      @@garyh4458 we actually use chloramines to disinfect our water the chlorine residual lasts longer but it’s not as potent. Chloramines are a byproduct of ammonia and sodium hypochlorite coming into contact. I don’t think they wanna go down that road though lol

    • @scottjoyce85
      @scottjoyce85 2 місяці тому

      Wouldn't break point only matter if there was significant amounts of NH3 for the chlorine to react with to become chloramines. THM could definitely be a concern because I'm not exactly sure where this water is coming from and the level of organic material in it based on this video.

    • @josephpadula2283
      @josephpadula2283 9 годин тому

      I thought they switched to Bromine ?
      Did they switch back to Chlorine?

  • @tylerforbes8623
    @tylerforbes8623 3 місяці тому +113

    Three things to consider, 1.) sediment filter before the holding tank 2.) pumping/filtering system runs when you have sun, to avoid battery draw down 3.) RO or UV system that fills a buffer tank in the house, pre consumption.

    • @cheerdiver
      @cheerdiver 3 місяці тому +9

      RO is definitely the way to go for cooking and drinking.
      Though keep in mind chlorine will break down the RO membrane material, giving it a metallic taste.

    • @TheSighphiguy
      @TheSighphiguy 3 місяці тому +5

      @@cheerdiver RO totally removes ALL helpful minerals also.
      something to consider especially if used on houseplants.
      it is, essentially,...distilled water.

    • @Dimka2
      @Dimka2 3 місяці тому +1

      @@TheSighphiguy you can get ro with mineralizing cartrige it adds some magnesium back and makes it less acidic

    • @Dimka2
      @Dimka2 3 місяці тому +7

      @@cheerdiver proper system will have carbon pre filter before it hits membrane, 90% of ro systems run inside city water with chlorine in them

    • @gman1868
      @gman1868 3 місяці тому +3

      When you install your RO system, be sure to include the re-mineralization stage. Water becomes acidic when run through the RO filtering. A third stage that re-mineralizes (is that a word?) will improve the taste and bring it back to slightly alkaline. I use a counter top system, an RKIN U1, because I didn't want to fill up the cabinet under our sink and I wanted something portable. It also makes cold and hot water including a separate setting for baby formula.

  • @donstevens337
    @donstevens337 3 місяці тому +34

    build up the ground over the well so that it diverts the surface runoff from the big hill to go around the well.

    • @cameronhamer9432
      @cameronhamer9432 3 місяці тому +4

      I’ve got a shallow well , 8 feet deep , but another 4 foot of extra backfill to keep surface water away . The water tested safe to use for commercial use . 👍🇨🇦

  • @John-jx1dk
    @John-jx1dk 3 місяці тому +14

    We had a 250k water tank for our 793 residents and use chlorine. You’re correct it’s difficult to maintain the correct ppm so we installed a paddle wheel dispenser. The more water that’s used and measured by the paddle wheel, the more chlorine is dispensed. The ppm was easy to set and the output easy to capture. You obviously won’t need as big a system but it works well. Our water Wurlitzer was tested biweekly and always passed.7

  • @tiemenvanderbijl785
    @tiemenvanderbijl785 3 місяці тому +16

    "How would you treat our shallow well water"
    Well sir, with dignity and respect ofcourse. 👍

  • @ralphswartz7961
    @ralphswartz7961 3 місяці тому +31

    One of the first things you need to do is compact the fill around the pump casing to stop the flow of ground water around the casing. Number two, raise the level of the grade at the casing to help divert the surface water away from the casing. Slope the grade away from the casing and improve the drainage of surface water away from your well.

    • @beckycrump8831
      @beckycrump8831 3 місяці тому +2

      This is what we did for our wellhead. Works great.

    • @ronblack7870
      @ronblack7870 3 місяці тому +2

      isn't the surface water what fills the well in the first place

    • @ralphswartz7961
      @ralphswartz7961 3 місяці тому

      N o the well is filled up from ground water running along the bed rock.@@ronblack7870

    • @bennym1956
      @bennym1956 3 місяці тому

      @@ronblack7870 Water comes into the bottom of well. See their well digging video

    • @EnufIsTooMuch
      @EnufIsTooMuch 3 місяці тому +8

      @@ronblack7870Yes, but not just the immediate area. The water is coming from the entire slope, percolating down and moving thru the rocks and soil. However big the mountainside is that slopes in that direction, that is their water source for the shallow well.

  • @wjhann4836
    @wjhann4836 3 місяці тому +9

    Riley, there might be a cheap improvement: Put a tube around the ozone dispenser. It should be a little shorter than the usual water level. I expect the rising air bubbles will take water with them and so the water will be more moved. That movement should improve the decontamination since always different water will pass the ozone source.

  • @tiny9614
    @tiny9614 3 місяці тому +65

    I worked at a water treatment facility about a decade ago and what you’re doing is exactly what we did but on a larger scale. But we released the “Poo” water into a local river.

    • @michaelmcginn7260
      @michaelmcginn7260 3 місяці тому +10

      Pollution. Poor river.

    • @ronblack7870
      @ronblack7870 3 місяці тому

      @@michaelmcginn7260nope

    • @tiny9614
      @tiny9614 3 місяці тому +12

      It was safe enough to drink but the city chose to dump in the river which had previously dried up. So because of this it reestablished the eco system.

    • @user-fe7bo5mm1o
      @user-fe7bo5mm1o 3 місяці тому

      ​@@michaelmcginn7260poollution

    • @BrokeWrench
      @BrokeWrench 17 днів тому

      ​@@michaelmcginn7260the "water treatment facility" cleaned the water then dumped it into the river...
      Id think you were dense, but all the thumbs up worry me

  • @robertmouradian9760
    @robertmouradian9760 3 місяці тому +16

    isn't the recommended distance at least 50 feet from live stock, etc (your kennel) from the well? from the camera footage, appears about 7 paces when you carried the water, could be contributing to the issue.

  • @kennethalmond8922
    @kennethalmond8922 3 місяці тому +44

    We're in year 6 of rain harvest 2000sqft roof -> 3 x 2500gal tanks. We do tanks -> pump -> 20micron -> 5micron (for UV) -> UV -> house and all works perfectly. We use big-blue 20" filters and change them once per year (~20,000gal) and change UV bulb ~1.5yrs. We put chlorine (bleach like you had) in the tanks for the 3 x summer months of no rain / hot water / stagnating water in the tanks. No ill affects so far and FYI - all approved by the city. :)

    • @Chris_at_Home
      @Chris_at_Home 3 місяці тому +5

      We collect rain water at our recreational off road cabin. It six miles from the nearest road the 2nd story roof it to steep for animals. I’ve been drinking the water for 20 years after I run it through a few FDA approved trash cans plumbed to catch the floaters and sinkers from trees before it goes into two tote tanks.

  • @jasonstrahin9927
    @jasonstrahin9927 3 місяці тому +4

    I grew up with multiple wells and springs in the neighborhood. The shallow wells were tested regularly. When the well itself tested positive for chloroform a gallon of bleach was added to the well. Flushed through the system until the smell of bleach came out the tap. 24 hours later retest. Repeat until the test remains negative. After a pattern was established the process would be repeated on a regular interval.

  • @janetkoball44
    @janetkoball44 3 місяці тому +7

    When you said, " do I want to spend time by myself"....., I had to take deep breath cause 99 per cent of my time is by myself, and I'm very bored with myself. I retired in January ' of 19 and cant seem to make much progress toward my camping goals. But I hope to very soon. Thanks for your soft talking to all of us about this subject.

    • @gravelydon7072
      @gravelydon7072 2 місяці тому

      I was forcibly retired in 2003. Since then I have never had as much free time as I had when working.

  • @CDNBVR1
    @CDNBVR1 3 місяці тому +4

    All of my drinking and cooking water goes through a reverse osmosis filter system from Culligan. It's a low flow system, so you can't run the whole house on it, but it will take out all bacteria and solids including minerals. It even removes chlorine. I'd add that to your kitchen water supply for drinking and cooking. I have a fridge with water and ice dispenser hooked up to it as well.

  • @timschwartz_trains
    @timschwartz_trains 3 місяці тому +14

    Had a similar system for lake water. I added a ceramic cartridge filter at one sink for drinking. Just one more layer of protection. 21 years drinking from lake no issues.

    • @Mike-hb4pc
      @Mike-hb4pc 3 місяці тому

      Until you get cancer one day and wonder what might have been the cause…

  • @SteampunkSteve
    @SteampunkSteve 3 місяці тому +6

    I used to manage the water system in a seasonal park and a couple of summer camps. At the start of each year I'd sanitize the wells. Over chlorinated the well and run the pump to charge a hose that I used to flush the sides of the well casing. Then fill all the water lines with the chlorinated water and leave for 48 hours. After that I'd run all the faucets until I could no longer smell the chlorine.
    Start at the source and you'll have less problems

  • @timkirkpatrick9155
    @timkirkpatrick9155 3 місяці тому +16

    A swimming pool UV treatment on a loop circulater on the cistern works great. In conjunction with a filter set you will love it!

  • @attwasmi
    @attwasmi 3 місяці тому +7

    I agree with John. Your basic much larger first filter should be outside and protected from freezing. It will be grey water coded as it will keep sediment from your system, and allow the inside step filters from "Constant" replacement. In RV's we see this, and it will make it much easier on a maintenance schedule.

  • @jasondoller9875
    @jasondoller9875 3 місяці тому +4

    I would suggest filtering the water before it enters the tank. Keeping sediment out of the tank will make it easier to clean the tank and keep it clean. Additionally, have you considered using activated charcoal as part of your filtration system? The activated charcoal filter and ozone generator may well kill everything, leaving the UV light as a failsafe backup.
    And since you can make activated charcoal using wood and heat, you shouldn't have any real costs in that regard other than the work to create it, which should be easily manageable.

  • @capt.stubing5604
    @capt.stubing5604 3 місяці тому +4

    I put a rain water catchment system in for an outer island home in the San Juan Islands a couple of years ago. We got salty water in the well we had drilled. So to build a home on the property we needed a permittable water system. We are using UV with a three stage pre-filter. We collect water from our roof into two 3,000 gallon cisterns. The system has worked great so far. The softest water I have ever experienced. The UV system is more sophisticated than what you have with some distinct similarities. I’m happy to share the system design with you if you want to look at it.

  • @noyopacific
    @noyopacific 3 місяці тому +3

    At our dry cabin on an island in Minnesota we drink lake water which gets tested twice a year for heavy metals, arsenic etc. For drinking water we boil it for 20 minutes to disinfect and then use a gravity flow carbon filter to reduce volatile organic compounds and improve the taste. We can also fill jugs at a public spring on our way to town to go shopping.

  • @johnnyzander1466
    @johnnyzander1466 3 місяці тому +7

    As several others have already mentioned. A coarse filter directly from the source, so the fine filter lasts longer.
    Another (harder) option is to dig deeper to get rid of the surface water that seeps down and give it more time to filter.

  • @gregs7918
    @gregs7918 3 місяці тому +8

    Treating bacteria is much cheaper than treating hard water from a drilled well. I would also recommend that you treat the well with a high concentration of chlorine (20 ppm). Circulate the water through your system and use a return hose to rinse the 10-foot plastic pipe on your well access. The only issue with super chlorinating the the well is that you will need to wait 4-7 days for the chlorine concentration to fall below 4 ppm. You only need to super chlorinate when you open the access pipe. 10 feet of dirt is very good isolation from surface bacteria. Also, air seal the access port. We only use super-chlorination, particle filtration, and a UV light.

    • @Adam-zq8fi
      @Adam-zq8fi 3 місяці тому +2

      Super chlorination also increases the chances of producing THMs and other treatment byproducts. I wouldn’t do that just figure out when youve reached break point chlorination and go from there.

    • @anthonysilva1473
      @anthonysilva1473 3 місяці тому +5

      @@Adam-zq8fi after super chlorination and soak the wells are flushed. no trihallos if done properly

  • @chuckoaks6756
    @chuckoaks6756 3 місяці тому +3

    Make your own sand and charcoal filter and put it inline before the rest of them. When a shallow well is pounded down here we just use a sand point. Less contamination. So, sand point with jet pump. Many houses around this area use this method.

  • @sdmarkow
    @sdmarkow 2 місяці тому +1

    we have a shallow well and treat with the UV lamp alone. Tested perfectly and never had any issues. Just remember to change the lamp and sleeve when you are supposed to.

  • @stevecroy9396
    @stevecroy9396 3 місяці тому +19

    Your water might not be as contaminated as you think. You might have made what is called a sampling error. I have experience with sampling, testing, and treating water systems. You might have inadvertently contaminated your first sample by using that pump. Coliforms are literally everywhere and on everything we touch. It is just a matter of how much. Unless you disinfected the pump and hose. Then, run it long enough to get rid of disinfectant. You also want to disinfect the faucet where you sample from first. Another thing is never sample from the surface of a container or source. As you pointed out, you saw something floating on the top of the water. There are always contaminates floating on the top. If you are dip sampling, you must cap the devise and open/close it under the surface. There are specially designed samplers for sampling tanks on long poles. To get an accurate sample from your well, you would have to disinfect the well pump it out until the water tested free of chlorine, then do a proper dip sample.

    • @BigDan7114
      @BigDan7114 3 місяці тому +2

      This !!!!!

    • @patrickday4206
      @patrickday4206 3 місяці тому +1

      Yeah I've seen a well fail then just wait a couple of months and pass

    • @Adam-zq8fi
      @Adam-zq8fi 3 місяці тому +2

      Even still it’s a better idea to treat the water coming out of the ground it’s not worth the risk

    • @DavidD03820
      @DavidD03820 3 місяці тому +3

      @@Adam-zq8fitotally agree, and the prefilter and UV light should always be there even if it didn't fail the test. It's always better safe then sorry and sick.

  • @jerryking9333
    @jerryking9333 3 місяці тому +6

    Great videos. One suggestion is any thought of putting a water sensor on the floor below water filtration system under sink. It will let you know if you are having any type of leak before it gets bad. Great videos.

  • @chrisoakey9841
    @chrisoakey9841 3 місяці тому +8

    Run the water through a dyson vacuum shell to filter out large material before your fine filters. the vortexes are a great prefilter.

    • @Bob_Adkins
      @Bob_Adkins 3 місяці тому +2

      And a lot easier to clean/change than other filters!

  • @waynerudiger1756
    @waynerudiger1756 3 місяці тому +1

    The nice thing about the 2 stage filter, at least if you have the right type, is that it removes chlorine so if you accidently over chlorinate (stage 3 as needed) it can take it back down to safe.

  • @TheMadManPlace
    @TheMadManPlace Місяць тому +1

    I have seen this system on a number of remote farms.
    Phase 1 is a 5000 liter tank.
    This gets pumped full of untreated water and you add chlorine to it.
    If the chlorine level is a bit high, don't worry too much.
    This tank needs to be agitated continually and vented outside.
    Then you have a pump and 2 valves connected to the next phase.
    Phase 2 is 2 x 1000 liter tanks that can be filled by the pump individually.
    Inside these tanks are normal fish-tank type aerators (but bigger or more of them)
    This will allow the chlorine, which is actually a GAS, to evaporate off.
    This needs to be vented outside as well.
    Then you have another 2 valves and a pump to take the aerated water and fill the next 1000 liter tank - Phase 3
    This is the supply tank to the house water system.
    So when the the phase 3 tank is nearly empty, fill it from the phase 2 tank that has the least chlorine. the other phase 2 tank will keep on aerating to get rid of the chlorine.
    Fill the now empty phase 2 tank from the phase 1 tank so that it can start de-chlorinating that water.
    If the phase 1 tank is empty (or nearly empty), fill it and add the chlorine so that the new 5000 liter batch can be chlorinated.
    Phase 2 has 2 tanks so that you always have at least 1 tank that is (hopefully) fully de-chlorinated.
    Also, to save fully treated water, a demand pump on the phase 1 tank can be plumbed into the toilet.
    The extra chlorine will also help keep the toilet sanitized but the only issue could be that the highly chlorinated water could wreak havoc with your septic tank...

  • @user-xk1gt9cg8v
    @user-xk1gt9cg8v 3 місяці тому +3

    Riley, you’re always super articulate, no umm, or ya know, or well, just great info every time.

  • @robertfallows1054
    @robertfallows1054 3 місяці тому +5

    Are you going to get your newly filtered water tested with a full panel test? That would be interesting. You might have other contaminants that are not caught in the new setup or not.

  • @BruceFindlay-kv5gr
    @BruceFindlay-kv5gr Місяць тому

    I think the relationship you two have is a clear example of how incredibly important friendship is in an ongoing relationship

  • @danielpullum1907
    @danielpullum1907 3 місяці тому +2

    One thing you have to say about Riley, HE DOES RESEARCH!!!!
    Excellent presentation Ole Salt!
    Yeah, as others have mentioned the dog run is close. You could put down a catch pan in the dog run, Hardee Har Har.
    I think back to my childhood at how many people got their water from shallow dug wells. I also remember folk getting illnesses traced back to the "bugs" U found in Ur untreated water. We had a 5'dia X 25' deep shallow well but only used it for outside work. We had city water.

  • @paulmiller591
    @paulmiller591 3 місяці тому +8

    You covered all the bases, and the combo approach seems safe. Would you ever use rain roof water for around the yard?

    • @AmbitionStrikes
      @AmbitionStrikes  3 місяці тому +9

      Yes! We are hoping to explore rain collection if the well can’t keep up this spring.

  • @rmmccoy51
    @rmmccoy51 3 місяці тому +16

    There was one surprise in this video. When you (Riley) took a mouthful of that tainted water, I was shocked that Courtney didn't scream loud enough for me to hear in Portland OR. Of course that probably means that Oliver was close enough to have been affected by the shock wave so she restrained herself and "only" raised her voice. But Riley I do have a request, back in December 2002 I had myocardial infarction and I have been trying to avoid having another. Don't drink the impure water.

    • @shade_x7752
      @shade_x7752 3 місяці тому +1

      Its ground water.. not tainted... all of our ancestors drank that water from the BEGINNING OF TIME... Yes its safer to filter, but the earth does a LOT of natural cleaning all by itself or else ALL THE ANIMALS that exist would be dead.

    • @Bob_Adkins
      @Bob_Adkins 3 місяці тому +1

      3/4 of the world drinks muddy, off-color, and/or smelly water and they are fine. Americans are very spoiled on pristine water. Me too!

    • @grahameida7163
      @grahameida7163 3 місяці тому +2

      Errr it was post the partial and UV filter, so all is good

    • @carolewarner101
      @carolewarner101 3 місяці тому +1

      What does a MI have to do with drinking impure water?

    • @virginiabrady3536
      @virginiabrady3536 3 місяці тому

      Sad for any human living in Portland wastehole.

  • @benparry5318
    @benparry5318 3 місяці тому +1

    I have a similar UV system in my house. The UV light will start beeping after about 1 year which means that it's time to change the bulb. If I lived more remote I would make sure to have a replacement bulb and filter set on hand so that you don't find yourself without a backup. Otherwise I'm very happy with my system.

  • @akdisney
    @akdisney 3 місяці тому +5

    I would do the same system and do lad test and move the dog run

    • @akdisney
      @akdisney 3 місяці тому

      Put beach in the well

  • @Leeeri1954
    @Leeeri1954 3 місяці тому +3

    quite comprehensive - looks like your solution to the water challenge is in sight .

  • @ryankelly5303
    @ryankelly5303 3 місяці тому +4

    Awesome idea Riley.

  • @ahorseman4ever1
    @ahorseman4ever1 3 місяці тому +1

    Great educational video today! When you add the humor into the video, it makes it much more memorable. I hope this makes a less worrisome water source for you. We love you guys.

  • @ruaraidhmcdonald-walker9524
    @ruaraidhmcdonald-walker9524 3 місяці тому +8

    Pressurised water connections right next to 3 power outlets!! Great video, glad you found these issues especially with the little one around!

    • @danrogers528
      @danrogers528 3 місяці тому +2

      He actually installed the pressurized water filter directly under an electric panel. That is a code violation.

  • @AC-pr9vr
    @AC-pr9vr 3 місяці тому +4

    Sounds like Oliver is starting to talk!

  • @Midcon77
    @Midcon77 3 місяці тому +1

    You guys continue to impress with these videos! I learn a ton each time I watch one. I hope you all are well and can't wait for the next one!

  • @roberthelmick1159
    @roberthelmick1159 3 місяці тому

    Thank you for going over this with us . Now I need to take a better look at my well water and test it .

  • @carefreeclubhouse1714
    @carefreeclubhouse1714 3 місяці тому +5

    "What I need is wider hips." Riley, you just crack us up!! You are sssssooooooooo zany!?!?!?! LOLOLOLOLOL

  • @stephaneleblanc8033
    @stephaneleblanc8033 3 місяці тому +3

    might be a good idea to use a simple filter between the water pump and the tank to make sure there is no build up of sediment or trash in the tank itself

  • @turosianarcher8771
    @turosianarcher8771 3 місяці тому +1

    With your system using something that needs power as your last and only defense against contamination of your home, I would strongly encourage you to have some form of additional battery backup on that filter unit, and maybe even something active that alerts you of a failure in that device. You will not be happy if/when your power goes out long enough for your water pipes to get enough contamination that you get sick.

  • @SirmcnuggetBes-sm5fg
    @SirmcnuggetBes-sm5fg 2 місяці тому

    this is the first time on your channel AND I CANT STOP SMILING OVER HOW CUTER YOUR CHILD IS :))))

  • @BigBrotherCY
    @BigBrotherCY 3 місяці тому +17

    on your video i saw 2 mistakes.
    1) on the cartridge filters installation you touch the filters with bare hands. Probably you transfer some bacteria from your hand to the filters. When you change it, try to use gloves.
    2) you must not touch the glass tube or the UV lamp with your bare hands, because our hands produce oil, the you leave oily/greasy finger print that create shadow, so the UV light doesn't reach all the bacteria. So the gloves is a must in this kind of jobs
    Just some friendly advises.
    Keep the good job and nice videos coming.

    • @nickjimbob2776
      @nickjimbob2776 2 місяці тому

      Thoughts on extension cord in muddy water?

    • @scottwatts3879
      @scottwatts3879 2 місяці тому

      Agree.
      Also, wipe down your hoses and equipment with chlorox before dumping them into the well. Contaminated mud is not your friend.
      Get a sediment filter as the first stage the water hits before going into your tanks. They auto backflush the sediment out periodically.
      Lastly, hard pipe everything. Use PEX and bury it (better freeze resistance than copper or CPVC)

  • @Pwn3dbyth3n00b
    @Pwn3dbyth3n00b 3 місяці тому +5

    I feel like a reverse osmosis set up would be easier and sure fire way to sanitize your water since literally only water can get through. No dirt, viruses or bacteria.

    • @C_J_81
      @C_J_81 3 місяці тому +4

      They are probably trying to avoid it if they can because reverse osmosis wastes a lot of water. Great system if nothing else works but bad if you limited water.

    • @Adam-zq8fi
      @Adam-zq8fi 3 місяці тому

      @@C_J_81 I work at an RO plant 85% of the water we pull out of the ground is useable the other 15% we have to discard. I agree RO probably isn’t the best way to go with one single well

    • @stefankaufmann8257
      @stefankaufmann8257 3 місяці тому

      ​@@Adam-zq8fii guess your RO has several stages to waste as few water as possible. A single stage RO wastes probably 80% or more, i suppose?

    • @Adam-zq8fi
      @Adam-zq8fi 3 місяці тому

      @@stefankaufmann8257 RO does not waste 80% of water and we have multiple stages but that’s because we add ammonia, antiscalant, and fluoride

    • @stefankaufmann8257
      @stefankaufmann8257 3 місяці тому

      @@Adam-zq8fi interesting to know... We had a small 1,5kW worm pump RO, to produce water for a pasteurizer (is that the correct word, i don't know...). What i could read on the flow meters, Its efficiency was not more than 50%. I am pretty sure, that it's not comparable to your RO, your power consumption is more likely measured in MW 🤣

  • @guytech7310
    @guytech7310 3 місяці тому +2

    Best option is to install a deeper well. Odds are you find water at the location not too deep, but deep enough to avoid contamination issues.

    • @texancowboy9988
      @texancowboy9988 3 місяці тому

      Please don't mess with that well for safety sake. Dig another one a little further away.

  • @axolotl5
    @axolotl5 3 місяці тому +2

    As almost always, that was awesome. You've inspired me to check our off grid water quality.

  • @TheSouthernMale
    @TheSouthernMale 3 місяці тому +4

    I think we all noticed that you said "I have not pooped back there", but nothing about if Courtney has or not :) LOL

  • @need2zipit
    @need2zipit 3 місяці тому +4

    One big problem besides filtering water and a very dangerous one, No GFI outlets, I would definitely research thet when you are running water near outlets and extension cords.

    • @BrianKrahmer
      @BrianKrahmer 3 місяці тому +3

      Most new construction uses GFCI breakers, and GFCI protection has been required in garages since 1978. I wouldn’t assume they don’t have protection

    • @need2zipit
      @need2zipit 3 місяці тому

      @@BrianKrahmer extension cords requires a GFI adapter on the cord.

    • @BrianKrahmer
      @BrianKrahmer 3 місяці тому

      @@need2zipit NEC reference, please?

    • @need2zipit
      @need2zipit 3 місяці тому

      @@BrianKrahmer I'm not a licensed electrician, but a 30 year low voltage contractor, NEC 406.9(B)(1) 210.52 (C) 3. I do not know if there has been updates as I've been out of the trades for the past 4 years.

    • @BrianKrahmer
      @BrianKrahmer 3 місяці тому

      @@need2zipit your first code reference does seem to apply, requiring an in-use cover, but doesn't address requiring a GFCI on an extension cord

  • @jdjd0711
    @jdjd0711 3 дні тому

    Put a shut off on the side between your filters and the house. Then you don't lose the house pressure and have to bleed air out of everything. To replace filters, Close both valves, bleed off pressure by pushing the red tabs on top of the filter housing. Replace filters, Crack the supply valve slightly, press down on the red buttons on the second filter. Let off the button occasionally to let air purge. Open the house side valve fully, then open the supply side valve fully.
    I have 20 inch filters and if you don't purge the air it sounds like it's going to hammer something off!

  • @rcdad2
    @rcdad2 3 місяці тому +2

    Sediment filter and shock the well before you use it

  • @constantbrousseau7758
    @constantbrousseau7758 3 місяці тому +8

    The UV light breaks down pex over time. The stainless line on the right side is great and should probably add the same to the left side where you currently have pex.

    • @ChrisWijtmans
      @ChrisWijtmans 3 місяці тому +2

      pex always makes me cringe.

    • @patrickday4206
      @patrickday4206 3 місяці тому

      Fat also breaks down pex pretty soon you have man boobs 😂

    • @jasonmorehouse3756
      @jasonmorehouse3756 3 місяці тому +2

      The UV light is inside of a canister. It's not coming in contact with PEX t all. Therefore it's not going to break down the plastic. You need to educate yourself kid

    • @jasonmorehouse3756
      @jasonmorehouse3756 3 місяці тому

      ​@@ChrisWijtmansThat's because you're uneducated

  • @shawnwaldon4471
    @shawnwaldon4471 3 місяці тому +3

    Here hold my beer while I cut this water line lol.

  • @geraldlandry6913
    @geraldlandry6913 3 місяці тому

    Nice four simple tests anyone can do and step bystep with realtime results. Thank you for your informative video😊

  • @peacefieldfarm_mn
    @peacefieldfarm_mn 2 місяці тому

    As a former college Instructor of water laboratory technicians, I think you did an excellent job explaining the issues you are faced with. Your choice of treatment methods is spot on too. Nice work! One thing you probably know, but I comment for others, is that chlorine will dissipate in an uncovered vessel, eventually. Just a few days is usually enough. Municipal sources are usually at 1-2 ppm free chlorine. 4 ppm would taste really bad! But the chlorine would evaporate out in a relatively short time. I am glad you did not give up, and decided to treat the water. Virtually all water is treatable and can be made safe to consume! Cheers!

  • @nietmijnechtenaam2477
    @nietmijnechtenaam2477 3 місяці тому +4

    Why no reverse osmosis + uv to be safe?

    • @stefankaufmann8257
      @stefankaufmann8257 3 місяці тому

      Reverse osmosis cleans everything out! The water doesn't have any minerals, that's dangerous for the acid concentration in the stomak and over all unhealthy, as the body needs minerals. Reverse osmosis water is also very aggressive, it destroys almost every metal except stainless steel.

    • @nietmijnechtenaam2477
      @nietmijnechtenaam2477 3 місяці тому

      @@stefankaufmann8257 thats why you reminarize the water after

  • @hsjawanda
    @hsjawanda 3 місяці тому +3

    Ollie looks so cute in the puffy jacket and even more so with the helmet on!
    Why didn't you guys try a Reverse Osmosis (RO) filtration system? They're the de facto standard in Indian homes.

  • @williamcall6042
    @williamcall6042 3 місяці тому

    I am glad you chose multiple options to make your water

  • @dsheli3
    @dsheli3 3 місяці тому +2

    The oil droplets might be from the harbor freight pump. When flushing my tankless I got old droplets, same brand pump.

  • @penguinistas
    @penguinistas 2 місяці тому +1

    You might consider a slow sand biofilter as a 1st step to purify your water.

  • @johndernberger1961
    @johndernberger1961 3 місяці тому

    So glad to see you are about to complete the SWET (sewer, water, electric, trash) cycle. Next step is a sustainable food source. Your channel is the best! Can’t wait to see the future.

  • @evgenyonishkevich8494
    @evgenyonishkevich8494 Місяць тому +1

    Great video! After watching this, I’m installing UV filter myself 👍

  • @junkyardsearcher6407
    @junkyardsearcher6407 3 місяці тому +1

    Great episode!
    You should consider a sediment filter between the pump and holding tank so that your holding tank doesn’t eventually fill up with sediment, creating a place for bacteria growth.

  • @kevinm3751
    @kevinm3751 2 місяці тому

    I was a plumber for 30 years. I used to install whole house Rhino water filtration systems in homes with wells. Many had shallow wells and never once did anyone have a complaint about their water. Their systems are so affordable its nuts and well worth checking out for what you need!

  • @elwoodlindquist9324
    @elwoodlindquist9324 3 місяці тому +1

    Very informative. Good luck with your water treatment hope it works for you.

  • @TheHolyElfOfBull
    @TheHolyElfOfBull 2 місяці тому

    I work in a company that installs oxygen for the fish, filtration uv of the circulation system and cleaning/disinfect, and ozonation of the fish wells in wellboats. When we use ozon in the wells to get it approved, we try to have around 700 PPM for a couple of hours in 2 to 3 wells with up to 4500 m³ of water.

  • @user-hi8dv4ml5o
    @user-hi8dv4ml5o 3 місяці тому +1

    Professional water system operator here; when taking Bacti samples, make sure your hands are clean, your “sample tap” or in this case your hose is disinfected, run the “sample tap” for 10 minutes continuously, reduce the pressure down to the size of a pencil stream, fill your sample bottles, make sure to not overfill. manipulate the sample bottle cap in a way where your hands or other surfaces don’t contact the under side of the cap. Lots of negative results happen from improper sampling.

  • @hmccoy99
    @hmccoy99 2 місяці тому +1

    RO SYSTEM WITH CHARCOAL FILTER WITH A SEPERATE TANK FOR DRINKING AND COOKING. ADDED TO YOUR GROUND WATER TREATMENT PROCESS

  • @timsoft3
    @timsoft3 4 дні тому

    we have spring supply, and had chloroforms once, so treated the main settling and header tank up the hill with sodium hypochlorite. to clean both the tanks and the supplying plastic pipe. then let the water run until the chlorine smell goes away, and use bottled water for a week. We also fenced off above the supply to keep sheep away from the supply. fencing off the supply area from medium/large animals we found was the most helpful, and water has stayed clear on subsequent testing for many years now. we also filter. looks like you've got a great system. setting up a system where the pump stops if the uv light stops working might be an idea,

  • @ewidmer1
    @ewidmer1 3 місяці тому +2

    Been looking forward to this video.

  • @ronruethain5521
    @ronruethain5521 3 місяці тому

    You as always amaze me. Your video is the one I look forward to every week. Great job. Thanks

  • @carefreeclubhouse1714
    @carefreeclubhouse1714 3 місяці тому +1

    Also, Thanx for the photos of you meeting. We questioned what Courtney saw in you. DUDE, you married a few steps above your league. You're a lucky man. That being said, you are handy around the house.

  • @Vikingza
    @Vikingza 3 місяці тому

    HI, I would suggest putting a fine particle filter and a active charcoal filter between your pump and underground tank to try to prevent particles and small solids from getting into your tank. I would also suggest moving your dog run as far away as possible. When you start using the shallow well, I would suggest building a pump house over the drill opening, thus stopping things from falling into the well, it will keep your pump, pump controls and filters protected from freezing in the winter. Lastly I would suggest regrading the area above your well to encourage the rain water and water from the snow melting to run off and not pool there so you only pump running water from under the ground and not "stagnant"water from around your building.

  • @NickFrom1228
    @NickFrom1228 2 місяці тому

    Some thoughts.
    1. Look at prevention. Can you move the dog kennel? Can you do anything with landscaping etc to keep water from flowing into your well?
    2. You can treat the well itself with chlorine. Wouldn't be a bad idea to try to knock down the existing bacteria once you are ready to start using.
    3. Definitely put a sediment filter in at the well. It can help prevent a bunch of issues later.

  • @SuziesCornerInLove
    @SuziesCornerInLove 2 місяці тому +1

    Chlorine dioxide, a common water treatment, is not only good enough for public water systems, but it's also extremely valuable to our health!

  • @franky_521
    @franky_521 3 місяці тому +1

    Finally a video that isn't just an add

  • @tokyomb
    @tokyomb 3 місяці тому

    Almost exactly the system we have for our spring-fed water supply here in the UK (albeit without the Ozone). Settlement tank, sediment filter, UV tube (a much bigger version than you have as we have mains electricity and probably higher flow rates) and then two storage tanks. We do find that some fine sediment gets past the filters (as clay particles can be very fine indeed), so the tanks need cleaning out every so often.

  • @handimanjay6642
    @handimanjay6642 3 місяці тому +1

    We are on a well but fetch our drinking/cooking water from machines in town even though the well was tested and treated. Our property and those around us have had livestock and poultry for decades. Municipal water service is available but keeps getting uranium warnings. I’ve started rain catchment for the garden.

  • @brucemoore2163
    @brucemoore2163 2 місяці тому

    Shelf water, only problem if any would be it might dry up for a short period of time sometime. Had a friend of mine who watered from one for his cows. Had been 12 years since it stopped before. 5 months later it started again and it’s now been over 2 years running. Love what you’re doing, have a well on my farm I’ve never used, you got me thinking.

  • @cannon3267
    @cannon3267 2 місяці тому

    my dad was the water treatment tech in our small town. he said if the chlorine smell bothered you, you could fill an open topped container and set it in the fridge over night. chlorine volatilizes rapidly, and by morning, most of the excess would be gone, leaving a better tasing and smelling water.

  • @MJ-ge6jz
    @MJ-ge6jz 3 місяці тому

    This was exceedingly helpful for us OFF-GRIDers. I will use this OZ and UV approach. I've heard the UV tubes have a high failure rate so stock up!

  • @jasont80
    @jasont80 2 місяці тому

    I'm impressed that the filter/UV was able to clean the bacteria with such a brief pass of the UV light. Makes me wonder about the effectiveness of the filter or UV alone.

  • @Mounty621
    @Mounty621 3 місяці тому

    Very well thought out system. Congratulations on a viable water source!

  • @heidjer86
    @heidjer86 3 місяці тому +1

    I would definitely add another filter between shallow well and your tank - else you will have all that junk you saw in your two probes (clorine & Ozon) forever in your Tank.

  • @robertlaird6746
    @robertlaird6746 3 місяці тому +1

    Do rain collection and install half in ground and half above ground water tanks and then cover them with an insulated building so the water doesn't freeze in the winter. Another off grid channel did that but I forgot the name of that channel.

  • @fovo2
    @fovo2 2 місяці тому

    Here in nz. Private farms use the UV method. I would highly recommend filling in the hole above the well, and slope it so ground water runs off and doesn’t leach into the well.

  • @the2bagod
    @the2bagod 2 місяці тому

    One thing I noticed about the filter setup - coming directly out of the UV filter into PEX will expose that PEX to UV light, and will likely lead to an early failure. I came off of my UV filter with copper to a copper 90, then transitioned to PEX after the 90 to block the UV from contacting the PEX.

  • @22kmclaren
    @22kmclaren 3 місяці тому

    Looks awesome! One idea for redundancies, e.g. in case the ozone bubbler goes out: set a reconfigurable valve system where the UV system can also run on a recirculation circuit with common mechanical prefilters. Recirc pull from the bottom of the tank and return to the top. More exposure to UV per unit of water in the tank, and recirculating through the mechanical filters will add a self-cleaning function to address sediment concerns that others have mentioned. Also, the added purification and electrical draw can be used during the summer, when ambient temperatures might encourage microbe growth.