Pacific Rim Could've Been a Great Franchise
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- Опубліковано 27 вер 2024
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In 2013 Guillermo Del Toro released the Kaiju classic, Pacific Rim. It was a great movie and a promising start to a new franchise. But after just one sequel, an anime show, and some comics, the franchise has gone quiet with no third film in the works. So let's talk about why the first film did right, and where Uprising went wrong. - Розваги
bro dropped one of the best kaiju films then left the genre.
Nice dig at the mcu.
he said “lets make a movie then dip out”
@@anubusx would it be a Tex video if I didn't?
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Underated.
Honestly a shame that we never got a Sequel to Pacific Rim. I would have loved to see more from that universe
At least they didn't hire a new director and make a terible sequel that destroy everything the first movie build.
@@jasontodd6779 true
@@jasontodd6779megamind 2 maybe
The ATLA tactic I see :p
yeah a real shame.
bro dropped the one of the hardest movies of the decade and left the genre
bros gotye
I think you meant century
Word for word
Hellboy and pacific rim.😢
Mr Copy and Paste
still waiting for the second movie, my hopes up
You mean third?
@@udhayveersingh1855 there is no second movie yet :(
@@udhayveersingh1855 this is a case where the fandom pretends that a sequel doesn't exist.
(or that it's a non-canon spin-off)
Read Occam’s razor (unless you’re super anti newt/hermann) I consider it the true sequel. Basically takes the idea that some kaiju were left on earth after the breach was closed, and the ksci duo are still connected to that hivemind and are effecting each other. Basically tackles the idea of how connecting with the hivemind like they did in the first movie in a much better way than “uprising” did
@@udhayveersingh1855 sad reality you must live in
Thinking back on this, I now realise that I can vividly remember each kaijuu in GDT's PacRim, but I legit can't recall a single kaijuu from Uprising…
one of them looked like a giant toothy vagina, that one was memorable at least
LMAO SAME
Cause there were only three in that movie and they all merged into one and they were all very basic
@@danielloewen2857 Were those Kaiju even named?
Knifehead, Leatherback, Otachi, goddamn those were great Kaijus, I really adore that movie with all of my heart
Dont ever compare Pacific Rim with Power Ranger Uprising.
😂
Even power rangers had more realistic mech fights
Well, it is fair to at least talk about Uprising.
The sad part is that a lot of great ideas were there. Mako's adoptive brother? Newt getting brainwashed? An evil Jaeger? Hybrid drones? A fusion Kaiju? All could have been used to great effect. But they completely botched the execution, killed Mako, replaced her with a boring white teen girl with the exact same backstory and added the trololololo song.
Honestly, I don't think they knew how big a cult following the first Pacific Rim had, when making Uprising. They just assumed it was just another dumb monster vs robot film, like Transformers.
Let's not forget - the first trailer and main trailer go unbelievably HARD
Another small thing that the sequel did wrong was making the jaegers generic. I’m the first filsm they each have completely different feels and so did the pilot suits. They were all unique to the country of origin. But in uprising they all feel like power rangers
Different soundtracks as well. Like when cherno and typhoon were fighting and it switched back to cherno beating the kaiju you could hear the soviet music
all have different weaknesses too that go into how they are defeated
You mean that one bad fan movie? Yeah anyways it's not canon so...
Pacific Rim… Giant Robots and monsters Fighting!
Pacific Rim 2… Toddlers playing with toy robots and monsters!
There's no sequel bro.
@@makatron yeah that’s right! No sequel 👀
@@LeoBlight I'm glad we're on the same page
Pacific Rim is like an artist who made a beautiful painting to amaze people and gets credit for their creativity.
Pacific Rim: Uprising is like someone looks at the artist’s painting, throws it into the fire and puts his own artwork filled with cringey memes and poorly drawn fanfic hand art.
Pacific Rim: Uprising? Never heard of that. Is that some kind of fan movie to Pacific rim?
@@twistytwistry yea
Honestly the new director being a TV director makes tons of sense
first film ❤
second film 💔
second film?
Their is no sequel in Ba Sing Se
What sequel are you speaking of? There's just one movie.
Is it really SO bad that you have to ignore its existence ? 😭 people still talk about the last knight in the transformers community, even tho it was trash
PACIFIC RIM itself was like a great 3d film in a trilogy, where we never got the first two, showing the rise of the kaiju and the rise of the Jaegers, leading to mankind's last stand. A pity in a way.
They should have done a prequel instead, would have been great to see some mark 1 and 2 jaegers.
Absolutely! You could have some epic Kaiju fights with earlier generations of Jeagers- the peers of Cherno Alpha and Gypsy. But noooo, let’s just make up new stuff.
Messed up they killed one of the best main characters in the 2nd. Would be cool if they did a sequel to Pacific Rim between the 1st and Uprising or used a drift connection of some sort to bring the characters back, but it would defeat their sacrifice. It was an honor growing up with the 1st movie and having neca figures to preserve the memories.
She didn't die because Uprising doesn't exist. It's just a collective delusion we're all sharing
@yahzee.skellington in that case, hoping Del Toro makes a real sequel, if not, it was awesome having Pacific Rim
WE WERE DRIFT COMPATIBLE! “Theme music kicks in”!
Fantastic movie but what’s up with all this people who had an optical illusion about a second movie?
Mandela effect.
These individuals are delusional beyond what current medicine could cure, they strongly believe there's a sequel, where we as the sane ones know there's only one film.
@@TexYT This doesn't look like anything to me 😐 \W/
I've heard of a movie about giant Power Rangers (haven't seen it) stomping through Tokyo trying to stop a giant monster from going into a volcano. Any idea what movie that is?
@@tsepheletseka5115 no doesn’t ring any bells
still can just need another good film and its back
The first film was perfect in what it set out to do, not the perfect movie but the perfect mech monster movie, it's clear that the people making it put pure creativity and attention to detail into it. They should give it another shot; bring back del Toro and the og director and retcon the second movie, if monsterverse can sell tickets, so can a retconed sequel.
I thought there were like 5 Pacific Rim movies until I watched this video and until last year I didn't even know Guillermo Del Toro directed the first one lol
Yeh, sad there's only one when you expected five😔
The Sequel Did the One thing I hated! It Killed Mako. The Fan Favorite, the Character that had the most potential. And she Died.
That was some Bullsh*t.
Literally I was the right age when the first Pacific Rim came out, it was a 10 year olds wet dream and I still love till this day, as for Uprising I gave it a rewatch not to long ago and I will admit had this been its own separate Giant Robot vs Kaiju movie not connected to Pacific Rim I would have enjoyed it in a dumb fun kind of way but because it is a sequel to the first Pacific Rim it really is a big slap in the face.
Something i loved about pacific rim is the worldbuilding and lore in it. That intro shows dozens of kaiju and jaegers in a matter of seconds and every one of them has a documented name, combat history, and background if you decide to look into it.
There should be a prequel! There’s literally source material and comics. I’m so glad they haven’t made a 2nd movie. Hope they do :)
0:36 Whats that? A fan animation?
Found it online. Origin unknown.
Coincidentally I literally finished watching pacific rim right as this video was uploaded
The biggest issue with Pacific Rim is that there is clear disinterest in making a good film like the first one. Pacific rim uprising tried too hard to be like evangelion and other 90's anime where, which hurt the plot and aesthetics. The only three characters that actually returned were either killed off way too soon or acted differently. I think the biggest disappointment however is how it was placed in the wrong hands. Aside from pacific rim uprising, the only other media we've received is Pacific Rim The Black, an animated miniseries that tried to fix the problem uprising had, but somehow made its issues worse at the same time. How can you make a show that centers around two kids piloting a robot and go on an adventure with a boy that was secretly a kaiju superweapon? It strayed too far from the concept and as much as I hate to say this, the idea of a franchise is dead. Del toro stated that he was not interested in making another movie and legendary might not want to make a sequel as it would be too risky in the financial sense.
Just pointing this out there...Del Toro said one of his ideas for the PR universe was to have the precursors be future humans so.....if boy being a kaiju is far fetched then idk how precursors being humans themselves gets a pass.
@@Kaiju-bm4ts precursors dont turn into a giant fucking kaiju. A little boy turning into a giant kaiju doesn't make any sense at all unless there is some type of black magic.
@@smurgerburgerIt's Anime logic, that's why you can't really say it's canon at all.
Although, I liked the part where they make the mother experience what could have been finally reuniting with her husband. That was beautiful.
The show was good, I really enjoyed it but I must admit after like three or four episodes, I didn't feel like watching pacific rim anymore.
Still thousands times better than that fan made sequel.
Honestly, the second movie had robots with rocket feet. That's enough for me to love it
I love how this is the same stuff that is happening with the Godzilla movies that we are getting. There is no sense of scale and it lacks everything what the first two movies accomplished.
Godzilla's franchise has been going back and forth between weight and scale far longer to the point fans can take it or leave it either way. Is Godzilla 98 for example a better G flick cause it had more weight than let's just say gvk? Absolutely not. Is the godzilla animated series worst than the godzilla anime trilogy cause the latter has weight to godzilla but the former doesn't? Absolutely not. Godzilla works regardless of the style.
PR is an original IP that needs Guillermo's style to work, otherwise it just doesn't work as PR if it tries to do any other style.
@@Kaiju-bm4ts The problem is that those were distinct different movies, series. The monsterverse is intended, as its name implies, to be the same universe, a single saga, so seeing those inconsistencies is even more jarring for those that like one version more than another all in the same line of movies. "If Godzilla can run now why didn't he do that in the first one?", etc
@@nkeneca Um..because...it's a stylistic choice to make him run in one movie and slow in another? That's not a continuity connection. Let alone not a inconsistency. It's called variety. The franchise being versatile is why the MV (just like showa/heisei) doesn't stick to the same tones or styles in every movie and doesn't repeat the same style over and over again to the point it gets stale.
This is why I said the godzilla franchise hasversatility, PR doesn't
@@nkeneca But the monstervers has sort of explained why he can run now, he literally juices up more every movie he is in, even in the Monarch show which takes place after 2014 Godzilla shows that same version just 1 year later is already walking a bit faster not running but he definitely is not as sluggish as in the original film.
@@BlazeSwigglePlayzMcguess godzilla is a terrible morning person then, I can relate.
It’s crazy that it has been 11 years and we never got a Pacific Rim sequel😢
Still the best Kaiju movie Hollywood ever made
another thing i never see mentioned about uprising is that none of the jaegers there have a nationality they're based on. a lot of the personality derived from the jaegers in the original was based on the ideas that people had about those countries and their cultures. for example; cherno alpha is aggressively russian with not only its theme music, but also the feeling of its WWII inspired design and heavy emphasis on armor and brute force. whereas, most of the jaegers in uprising don't really have that cultural identity, and instead come off more as a vague idea of a jaeger than a specific identity. makes sense that people often compare them to power rangers.
Well, Tex, I have some good news for you, because Legendary just announced a Pacific Rim prequel series
Pacific Rim gave me hope for a Mobile Fighter G Gundam film.
this movie actually performed better in China but underperformed in the US because more people wanted to see Grown Ups 2 in theaters.
This "win" was so impactful for Sony they decided to make lightning strike twice when they released "Blended" opposite of X-Men Days of Future Past.
I’m just happy we got that first movie. Nothing could top that imo
i stand by my opinion that pacific rim is the best live action kaiju movie and we need another anime
I love the first one. It was such a great 3d movie. Adored it. The sequel was......there.
This movie is the reason i like mech genre in the first places
If they used Del Toro's script, Uprising might have been better received.
Pacific Rim isn't a franchise though. It's a standalone film with no sequels or tie-ins.
What happened with Universal as far as Guillermo del Toro and Zakk Penn's "Pacific Rim 2: Maelstrom" script was concerned was Universal had budgetary concerns overt it. They ordered it to an overhaul and didn't secure the sound stages in Toronto two weeks before it was to go camera. Del Toro and Penn attempted to address the distributor's concerns with a pair of re-writes when Universal pulled the film off their release schedule. Wanda may have wanted the film to shoot in China, true enough, but by the time Universal made its decision, the window for del Toro to helm the picture had lapsed and he walked, moving on onto prepping "The Shape Of Water" since he contractually obligated to do so. Incidentally, this was the third time Universal screwed over del Toro over film budgets ("Hellboy III"" first, "At The Mountains Of Madness" , touted as an R rated flick starring Tom Cruise, second and "PR: Maelstrom").
Several months later, enter John Boyega and his production partner's company and Steven S DeKnight with their revamped version of Maelstrom's script and "PR 2" was back on the boards. Universal botched its marketing campaign from the get-go, by sequentially progressing to reveal the film's strongest visual effects scenes in the trailers and sneak peek clips. Aside from die-hard fans, why should the general audience of movie goers show up and see it in theatres when the movie's best parts had been spoiled.., well before its release.
I hope pacific rim gets a second movie after 11 years of nothing,pacific rim is the best kaiju movie ever it must come back
A prequel would be nice.
It's so sad they never even considered making a sequel, HUGE missed opportunity, they could never mess this up!
I believe that Pacific Rim will come back. We'll see in time.
Pacific Rim is so great and I really want more of it. I still do, I haven’t given up on it. But I know it’s not happening, so I’m not holding my breath 😢
Seems you have missed it, but Guillermo said he's making a third movie, and has plans for a cinematic universe for Pacific Rim.
I refuse to believe that uprising is canon in the pasific rim lore
TLDR: Never take creative control away from Del Toro.
He needs to comeback and direct a prequel.
I think they could still do well with it. Just because the sequel that theoretically exists did bad, doesn't mean they can't just retcon it or do a prequel which i think a lot of people would like
Imagine a universe where we got pacific rim , kong and godzilla
There is a perfect universe somewhere where Pacific Rim and the Monsterverse are both a mutual success.
Imagine how happy Legendary is in that universe. And the fans.
The biggest villains in Guillermo Del Toros filmmaking career has been studio executives and budget restrictions.If you take these two problems out of this mans carrer we wouldve got a lot more epic movies than we have right now for example Hellboy 3(potentially even more movies because the comics are pretty ducking awesome and very adaptable imo)and the pacific rim franchise😭
Pacific Rim really doesn't get enough credit for having much better characters and a much more interesting story than anything going on in the monsterverse.
Also, Idris Elba was hilarious.
"One: don't you ever touch me again. Two: don't you EVER touch me again" 🤣
It could've been a great franchise, too bad they never made a sequel... 😔
He didnt drop the genre, he was working on the scrip for the 2nd movie but the directors didnt wait for him because he also had other projects and they hired another guy to do the scrip, till this day I wonder how the 2nd movie wouldve been if Guillermos directed it
I didn’t like that they removed the slow movement of the mechs and giants, and I didn’t like the kids.
a prequel where they still had single drift users
I don't think they ever had single drift. The first jaeger to fight surely already had two ways drift.
Idk about you guys but I'm still waiting on this second movie everyone is talking about.
Gipsy danger in favorite Jagger.
Gypsy Danger: 😤
Gypsy Avenger: 🤢
I honestly can't remember the name of Jaegers in second film cause they were just that dumb
@pradeepdungdung4379 All I know is gipsy avenger.
I pray that we’ll get another movie, I 100% think that if we got del back on project we could get a really good movie, pacific rim is a great movie and I find myself coming back to it.
4:24 jipsy danger doing half T pose was the actual reason of explosion because only full T poses can muster up the energy required to withstand the power
I wish this movie got a sequel too bad it didn’t
I swear all of you NPCs cannot come up with nothing new!
still waiting for Pacific Rim 2
It’s a shame because I loved the first pacific rim movie it was really awesome and badass in my opinion.
what i kind of want to see if they continue pacific rim is a past one of the beginning of like the mark 1s or seeing what gipsy did before its battle with knife head or knowing the old jeagers and how they feel like romeo blue or tacit ronin and how they fought and how they ended up and the jaeger decommission sight that is what would bring me back to pacific rim and if they do it right too
Pacific rim had a lot of potential, Like gozzila and kong. The director really know how to make big monster and robot looks big and mechanical. And the Idea of humanity cooperate together to fight against alien enemy is a awesome idea. Much bigger scale than "america superhero save the world" and "family" stuffs.
Dawg i wish they wouldnt of replaced the director, it would be a dream to see a crossover wiht the monsterverse and pacfic rim
Dude love this dissection of the Pacific Rim fanfilm, it was so well done but it's still got room to improve story-wise
Still needs a proper sequel though
Apparently Guillermo Del Toro had an idea for the sequel where the precursors are actually future humans or something which is just.. bad
Maybe leaving it one and done is for the best.
@@TexYT Yep, seems that way
Yeah that would have been terrible… but I believe that it’s not actually proven that he said it!
@@LeoBlight The Pacific Rim wiki mentions that Del Toro said it. Pointlesshub also mentions it in his Pacific Rim 2 video.
If you want to know what's said:
*"The villain was this tech guy that had invented basically sort of the internet 2.0. And then they realised that all his patents came to him one morning. And so little by little, they started putting together this and they said 'Oh, he got it from the precursors.' The guys that control the kaiju. And then we found out that the precursors are us thousands of years in the future" Del Toro explained. "They're trying to terraform, trying to re-harvest the earth to survive. Wow. And that we were in exo-bio-suits that looked alien, but they were not. We were inside. And it was a really interesting paradox."*
@@XenoTronusWeePoo850 thanks for the info! I’m not sure if that would have been a good idea! But I guess it all depends on how the story is executed. I still believe that the precursors should just be the bad guys, evil aliens bent on global domination and rule!
So what happened was they made a kickass movie and never thought to make a sequel
they actually are dumb for not making a sequel for this movie
It's worthy to note though that the animated series Pacific Rim: The Black did pretty well from what I've heard, fans liked it, though it's basically just that. Fanservice. It didn't do too well when it came to attracting new people to the franchise however.
not everything has to be a franchise. Del Toro dropped an adorable summer blockbuster and then he moved on to make other films. The End.
Used to dream of a pacific rim x Godzilla crossover as a kid now I want them to stay far away from each other
The first Pacific Rim is one of my favourite movies ever and really kick started my love for the kaiju genre, then cemented by the monsterverse. Such a shame the franchise was mismanaged like it was. How good would it have been for the Pacific Rim and Godzilla franchise's to have grown alongside one another. Most likely the two universes would have merged together at some point.
It was a pilliar of my childhood along with godzilla 2014
i think pacific rim is perfectly fine as a stand alone film. not every fantastic movie needs a sequel
I think the only way to save Pacific Rim as a franchise they need to release a prequel movie
i like how the wiki has multiple pages with 3 seperate sub pages (og movie, 2nd movie, inconsistencies)
im worried the monsterverse is slowly going down the pacific rim path. everything you said about uprising about lost scale, not feeling like its connected to the world of pacific rim 1 and the cinematography and lightweight of the jaegars is what the current adam wingard godzilla and king kong movies have felt like for me. except people are responding to those movies positively whereas uprising was slammed hard for the same things. i dont understand why
scale was never an issue in the Godzilla franchise. Showa Era Godzilla for example seems to be an inspiration for Monsterverse in terms of the monster fight scene. Unlike Pacific Rim, Monsterverse is much more consistent in terms of their own key elements (some social commentary a bit similar to the old movies like environmentalism, anti-war message etc...) while Pacific Rim 2 is basically like Michael Bay's Transformer but without the grittiness and the intense action scenes (which Pacific Rim 1 manage to achieve in its own style).
Godzilla's franchise goes back and forth so much with weight and scale it hardly matters anymore, fans can take it or leave at this point. PR is a IP that has less variety than godzilla and only works if you're mimicking the first film. Meanwhile godzilla works regardless of how you use him. People slam uprising cause it goes against what the first movie did. People don't slam godzilla for doing X Y and Z cause it doesn't go against anything he does most of the time.
There’s a good reason the scale is lost with Godzilla, it’s because most Godzilla movies now, Godzilla and the other Kaiju are around other Kaiju more often, we don’t get the human POV of slow, heavy movements because we’re not looking at the pov of other humans now, we’re following the Kaiju for the most part, which are the same size, we still know they’re big, but it’s way more action packed now because we’re following the Kaiju with other Kaiju. And also what the other guy says, with Godzilla, it doesn’t really matter, cuz Godzilla always goes back and forth and sideways and all of that, nothing you do with him is really out there because of how he’s been used in a variety of different ways
I mean, it's important to note that a lot of things Del Toro set out were acted upon, and tbh... It was just fumbled...
But... A lot of the ideas from the second movie are actually interesting. Don't burn me alive.
But genuinely, with a more seasoned director and a lot more DARK (everything being set in the DAY does NOT help), I think it could've been good.
Some things that need to be done should've been:
1. Kajius are believed to have been defeated! So, have humanity turn inwards on itself. Have them begun using Yeagers to combat humans, this would lead to small yeagers that are designed to work alongside infantry and vehicles! Scrapper, despite how stupid the idea is, does make sense for what the militaries of the world would produce, albeit higher qualities. These would become the norm. Show us how yeagers would be used if we can't base the story on kajiu for a while, have the yeagers be THE force, pin them firmly on the story to keep people invested. You can show the yeagers by having the US & NATO use them to police the Middle East and fight any enemy acquired yeagers or assert supremacy. Don't get rid of the larger ones, though. They can serve as the Battleships, the dominant strong ship designed to destroy all little ships and battle other battleships. Maybe show these off in military parades, showing us perhaps the yeagers we'll see fighting later on in the movie.
2. Don't kill OG characters in such a way, btw that Mako dying that way was the original plan Del Toro had. Don't degrade them but still have them there. If you kill them, have them die heroically.
3. Have the yeagers be mechanical semi-slow attackers, similar to the first movie, this is a no brainer.
4. Don't kill Obsidian Fury off, I genuinely do like the idea of Kajiu controlled mechs, the second brains of kajiu could play a major role and instead of being a plot device it could be THE major thing. The designs are pretty cool for the kajiu yeagers later on tbh, maybe have the kajiu yeagers build themselves up to look like their kajiu counterparts, maybe they use dead fish and animals to look more fleshy, so you get these grotesque mimics who use skin and stuff and merge it with their metal. Now Obsidian Fury should be the MAIN villain yeager villain, of course you'll need to figure out the kajiu brains but... Again... Just have Mako succed in sending the message, possibly by just using Gipsy Avenger to scan, and you can have the SCIENCE TEAM figure it out. Now, if you want to kill Mako, have her be the pilot for Gipsy Avenger, maybe alongside Mr. Protag (probably going to need one, hell you can make it the same guy) then have a similar scene to the movie playout, with Obsidian Fury appearing. Have it be at sunset and long into the negotiations... So you get a dim, dark appearance. And then have them fight. However, have Gipsy start to lose and then have Mr. Protag get ejected away as Mako pilots it by herself to protect her little bro, as she isn't stupid and knows they're about to die. You can have Mr. Protag get a satisfying revenge on Obsidian Fury in a rebuilt Gipsy Avenger. Fulfilling its name as Gipsy AVENGER.
5. You can still do the whole Newt is evil thing. Just do it better and less cringe worthy. Got no advice on how to fix that other than it HAS potential to be an interesting idea. Just present it more as a split personality, like REALLY lean in to it. Show us our beloved Newt is still there, and he's trying his best to fight.
6. No children. Child actors suck. Like... Not their acting, but in action film, you just KNOW they WON'T DIEEEEE. So, just no. Don't include them.
7. You can have the Pan-Pacific Defence Corps still exist. Just lean into the fact they're merely there for ceremonial, cleanup, and "JUST INCASE!!!" purposes. Do have them save the day, perhaps show that the Battleship Yeagers I said earlier aren't equipped well enough to fight Kajiu, so they end up failing when they inevitably show up. Maybe have one of them align with the PPDC, so we get a cool comparison.
8. Okay, so... Guessing the whole Kajiu Yeager thing won't last... Perhaps instead of those being the MAIN villains... Use cloned Kajiu? Because it's a studio, and they might deem cyborg mechs versus just mechs boring. Perhaps have a pair of three cloned kajiu show up. These would be made by the main villain, Newt or not... Who would use their funds to pay... A group of THE KAJIU WORSHIPPERS, who were AWFULLY underused! To create them in one of the unused PPDC bases. These kajius goal is to get to the marina trench or another deep point on earth and create a new funnel gateway. How? Uhh... I don't know, perhaps have one of Kajiu have a unique power to create tears in the fabric of time and space, have them be unstable so they close after themselves... But the realisation of what's happening is that the deeper the tears are, the longer lasting they are... Maybe they require gravity to pin it... So if they got to the deepest point on earth... The Precursors could pin the tear open, with their own planets gravity and begin the invasion again. That's a silly idea, but you gotta suspend your disbelief a little bit... You can have Obsidian Fury assist these guys, as the remaining Yeager Kajiu are held back by the national owned yeagers, with them being better suited to fight other yeagers. This, in a way, is to mimic the first movie, where it's the Yeagers trying to get to the Mariana trench. Instead, it's the Kajiu trying to get there. Once the good guys win, or don't, since you can always set up a third movie. You can cheer and stuff. Have Newt or the villain not captured, so if the good guys win, you can set up a third movie, maybe have some of the Kajiu Yeagers survive as well to give the PPDC reason to exist again.
9. Oh yeah, extra runtime. A sequel needs equal or more runtime than it's original to be a success. This is obvious and a MUST.
Hope these ideas are good or just gave you a laugh at how stupid they are!
Note: The negotiations can be about the funding of the Pan-Pacific Defense Corps instead btw.
Man, that's a lot of copium. Too bad we can't have it.
Pacific rim was easily uncontestedly one of the best movies of all time. No debate
Clearly transformers or Monsterverse movies don't have greatest plot but they still succeeded. And they are Entertaining too. It begs the question, what causes a big monster fighting movie to flop. I think it's harder to flop a action spectacle than other movies.
You should also cover the Animation versions of PACIFIC RIM
We need a Godzilla franchise x Pacific Rim franchise movie
Personally I would love to see them try again but slowly. For example a live action show series centered around a Jager engineer or even worker during the start of the Kaiju crisis would be perfect for audience and writers alike. Hell it can even retcon the original if it meant a new story could be made avoiding the mistakes of uprising.
Surprises me how hard a franchise can fall off.
For me to summarize the issues with screen play, the first was good because you had that anticipation for every movement and could never be certain if that jab or hook or sword would reach the kaiju in time for it to count. Uprising made everything far too quick and fluid, and now the robotic flaws were lacking, removing that anticipation for the slowness of everything, and that’s what made the first so great. Anticipation
Tbh theres a chance for more movies. The franchise feels more like dormant rather than extinc.
We got knocked down by the fan made sequel.
What do you mean "Could have been"? It still does, the movie is very good, whenever they make a 2nd one, I'm sure it'll be breathtaking!
i think about this at least every other week, could’ve been a great franchise
Pacific rim was awesome. I loved that movie.
The Chinese touches something..... And shit goes south real quick.
“one of” nah, THE best kaiju movie ever made. PERIOD.
Pacific rim prequel with the mark 1 jaegers
We could have had an amazing prequel story showcasing the war before Jaeger came around.
We could have a TV Show like Pacific Rim: Black to see how other countries fare in the Kaiju Wars.
WE COULD HAVE GOTTEN SO MUCH MORE
I vote they do what the fans have done and just scrap the sequel and say it was an "alternate universe" and then try again with better writing and a fat check made out to Del Toro
1st film = giant robots punching giant monsters in the face = genius. All side plots simple and built the world.
2nd movie = ??? (everything = nothing) = Justce Leage. You can't skip the world building to the capstone movie.
May I recommend Getter Robo manga? It is pretty similar to this in a lot of ways, but a little more heightened with anime/manga craziness.
Of course! What is it?
@@TexYT Getter Robo manga is a mecha series that started in the 70s (one of the OGs of the genre) about the fight of humanity against the Dinosaur Empire. It is initially a simple story that was promotional material for the anime running at the time, but it got a sequel in the 90s, and started to really get insane. Also created the Gainax pose and heavily inspired Gurren Lagann. Unfortunately it is one of those manga with only fan translations and no official ones aside from a spin off. Although be warned that the story is unfinished due to the death of the author, but I'm pretty sure that Getter Robo Go has a conclusion, but don't quote me on that.
Order of the series is Getter Robo > Getter Rob G > Getter Rob Go > Shin Getter Robo> Getter Robo Arc