Pacific Rim Could've Been a Great Franchise
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- Опубліковано 27 бер 2024
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In 2013 Guillermo Del Toro released the Kaiju classic, Pacific Rim. It was a great movie and a promising start to a new franchise. But after just one sequel, an anime show, and some comics, the franchise has gone quiet with no third film in the works. So let's talk about why the first film did right, and where Uprising went wrong. - Розваги
bro dropped one of the best kaiju films then left the genre.
Nice dig at the mcu.
he said “lets make a movie then dip out”
@@anubusx would it be a Tex video if I didn't?
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Underated.
Honestly a shame that we never got a Sequel to Pacific Rim. I would have loved to see more from that universe
At least they didn't hire a new director and make a terible sequel that destroy everything the first movie build.
@@jasontodd6779 true
@@jasontodd6779megamind 2 maybe
The ATLA tactic I see :p
yeah a real shame.
There's another thing i want to add,
1) never kill OG heroes from previous movie.
2) never makes Kids as soldier unless the original is about Kids as soldier.
3) every sequel need to make it grittier because the audiences age especially Kids already grow up.
Could have worked if maybe
1) don’t kill your hero’s off in a non heroic way (mako in contrast to every other pilot in the fist movie)
2) have Charley Day’s character doing the kid as soldiers thing (because evil)
3) keep the gothic feel instead of going generic action movie themed
There’s a lot of good ideas in this movie but non of the originals soul (bit of an issue when making a sequel)
Yes, do not utilize children as the main protagonist. They get annoying real fast. The trope is getting tired. The reason they went with children is because they were trying to sell the film to kids and eventually toys. Milly Bobby brown's character and her chubby friend in the monster verse is also annoying.
@@barrymccaulkiner7092yes why Millie and her fat friend in the movies they don’t bring anything to the story they just increase the budget I didn’t see them in the new movie trailer so I think it’s a good news.
I disagree with all of those
@@misaelacevedo7105When did PR ever have a Gothic feel?
bro dropped the one of the hardest movies of the decade and left the genre
bros gotye
I think you meant century
Word for word
Hellboy and pacific rim.😢
Mr Copy and Paste
still waiting for the second movie, my hopes up
You mean third?
@@udhayveersingh1855 there is no second movie yet :(
@@udhayveersingh1855 this is a case where the fandom pretends that a sequel doesn't exist.
(or that it's a non-canon spin-off)
Read Occam’s razor (unless you’re super anti newt/hermann) I consider it the true sequel. Basically takes the idea that some kaiju were left on earth after the breach was closed, and the ksci duo are still connected to that hivemind and are effecting each other. Basically tackles the idea of how connecting with the hivemind like they did in the first movie in a much better way than “uprising” did
@@udhayveersingh1855 sad reality you must live in
can we talk about how Amara's flashback scene was supposed to be emotional but it turned out to be way comical than it should've been
I laughed too hard.
I don't even remember who that is 😭
@@themosa I only remember her name cause of just that scene and how it utterly fails compared to Mako's flashback
and how they killed Mako to make room for her even though Mako piloting Gipsy Avenger with her adoptive brother could have had some interesting potential.
“Jump! I’ll catch you-“
*SPLAT*
Thinking back on this, I now realise that I can vividly remember each kaijuu in GDT's PacRim, but I legit can't recall a single kaijuu from Uprising…
one of them looked like a giant toothy vagina, that one was memorable at least
LMAO SAME
Cause there were only three in that movie and they all merged into one and they were all very basic
@@danielloewen2857 Were those Kaiju even named?
Knifehead, Leatherback, Otachi, goddamn those were great Kaijus, I really adore that movie with all of my heart
Dont ever compare Pacific Rim with Power Ranger Uprising.
😂
imagine if guillermo direct godzilla…
It would've emphasized the radioactive side of godzilla
@@rengoku_117 ngl, I'd love that so much better than gvk
@@kuro._aertI mean realistically the movie would just be nuclear mouth beam = kong melts from being near it😭 I don't know if that's gonna be a long movie💀
Would be the best decision
The sad part is that a lot of great ideas were there. Mako's adoptive brother? Newt getting brainwashed? An evil Jaeger? Hybrid drones? A fusion Kaiju? All could have been used to great effect. But they completely botched the execution, killed Mako, replaced her with a boring white teen girl with the exact same backstory and added the trololololo song.
Pacific rim is a good standalone film.
Let's not forget - the first trailer and main trailer go unbelievably HARD
Pacific Rim is like an artist who made a beautiful painting to amaze people and gets credit for their creativity.
Pacific Rim: Uprising is like someone looks at the artist’s painting, throws it into the fire and puts his own artwork filled with cringey memes and poorly drawn fanfic hand art.
Pacific Rim: Uprising? Never heard of that. Is that some kind of fan movie to Pacific rim?
@@twistytwistry yea
Another small thing that the sequel did wrong was making the jaegers generic. I’m the first filsm they each have completely different feels and so did the pilot suits. They were all unique to the country of origin. But in uprising they all feel like power rangers
Different soundtracks as well. Like when cherno and typhoon were fighting and it switched back to cherno beating the kaiju you could hear the soviet music
all have different weaknesses too that go into how they are defeated
Pacific Rim… Giant Robots and monsters Fighting!
Pacific Rim 2… Toddlers playing with toy robots and monsters!
There's no sequel bro.
@@makatron yeah that’s right! No sequel 👀
@@LeoBlight I'm glad we're on the same page
Back in 2013, while i did deeply enjoy pacific rim i was perfectly content with it being a one and done. Especially considering how the film ends, not really leaving the door open to potential sequels without undoing what the first film accomplished. Which is exactly what the sequel did unfortunately.
first film ❤
second film 💔
second film?
Their is no sequel in Ba Sing Se
What sequel are you speaking of? There's just one movie.
If only we could go to a universe where all of Del Toros cancelled movies came out, like Mountain Madness, his version of the Hobbit, Justice League Dark, and Hellboy 3
So upset about his version of The Hobbit never getting made cause of all the arguing amongst the studios
@@TexYT the worse crime of the whole affair was making Ian McKellen cry, shame on them.
PACIFIC RIM itself was like a great 3d film in a trilogy, where we never got the first two, showing the rise of the kaiju and the rise of the Jaegers, leading to mankind's last stand. A pity in a way.
Messed up they killed one of the best main characters in the 2nd. Would be cool if they did a sequel to Pacific Rim between the 1st and Uprising or used a drift connection of some sort to bring the characters back, but it would defeat their sacrifice. It was an honor growing up with the 1st movie and having neca figures to preserve the memories.
She didn't die because Uprising doesn't exist. It's just a collective delusion we're all sharing
@yahzee.skellington in that case, hoping Del Toro makes a real sequel, if not, it was awesome having Pacific Rim
WE WERE DRIFT COMPATIBLE! “Theme music kicks in”!
still can just need another good film and its back
The first film was perfect in what it set out to do, not the perfect movie but the perfect mech monster movie, it's clear that the people making it put pure creativity and attention to detail into it. They should give it another shot; bring back del Toro and the og director and retcon the second movie, if monsterverse can sell tickets, so can a retconed sequel.
Fantastic movie but what’s up with all this people who had an optical illusion about a second movie?
Mandela effect.
These individuals are delusional beyond what current medicine could cure, they strongly believe there's a sequel, where we as the sane ones know there's only one film.
@@TexYT This doesn't look like anything to me 😐 \W/
Literally I was the right age when the first Pacific Rim came out, it was a 10 year olds wet dream and I still love till this day, as for Uprising I gave it a rewatch not to long ago and I will admit had this been its own separate Giant Robot vs Kaiju movie not connected to Pacific Rim I would have enjoyed it in a dumb fun kind of way but because it is a sequel to the first Pacific Rim it really is a big slap in the face.
A missed opportunity for this movie, it should've did a crossover with the Monsterverse, we got Godzilla, we got Kong, we got Jaegers fighting Kaijus. It would've been great
Godzilla is, like, four times their weight.
@@TrueNamelessOne ye monsterverse is so much bigger
@@TrueNamelessOnewe had 30 of them in 1 shatterdome I wanna see them wail on the big G or the monkey
@@TrueNamelessOnefor some reason on the wiki, their stats got updates although without a source. so most jaegars weigh around 50k tons now
@@Abyssxll So NOW he's 4 times their size.
*Weight
The Sequel Did the One thing I hated! It Killed Mako. The Fan Favorite, the Character that had the most potential. And she Died.
That was some Bullsh*t.
Something i loved about pacific rim is the worldbuilding and lore in it. That intro shows dozens of kaiju and jaegers in a matter of seconds and every one of them has a documented name, combat history, and background if you decide to look into it.
I thought there were like 5 Pacific Rim movies until I watched this video and until last year I didn't even know Guillermo Del Toro directed the first one lol
Yeh, sad there's only one when you expected five😔
Coincidentally I literally finished watching pacific rim right as this video was uploaded
Pacific rim is the perfect power Rangers movie.
The biggest issue with Pacific Rim is that there is clear disinterest in making a good film like the first one. Pacific rim uprising tried too hard to be like evangelion and other 90's anime where, which hurt the plot and aesthetics. The only three characters that actually returned were either killed off way too soon or acted differently. I think the biggest disappointment however is how it was placed in the wrong hands. Aside from pacific rim uprising, the only other media we've received is Pacific Rim The Black, an animated miniseries that tried to fix the problem uprising had, but somehow made its issues worse at the same time. How can you make a show that centers around two kids piloting a robot and go on an adventure with a boy that was secretly a kaiju superweapon? It strayed too far from the concept and as much as I hate to say this, the idea of a franchise is dead. Del toro stated that he was not interested in making another movie and legendary might not want to make a sequel as it would be too risky in the financial sense.
Just pointing this out there...Del Toro said one of his ideas for the PR universe was to have the precursors be future humans so.....if boy being a kaiju is far fetched then idk how precursors being humans themselves gets a pass.
@@Kaiju-bm4ts precursors dont turn into a giant fucking kaiju. A little boy turning into a giant kaiju doesn't make any sense at all unless there is some type of black magic.
@@smurgerburgerIt's Anime logic, that's why you can't really say it's canon at all.
Although, I liked the part where they make the mother experience what could have been finally reuniting with her husband. That was beautiful.
I've said it once, and I'll say it again. Best idea for a sequel would have been -
Jaeger Cold War.
No more Kaiju means suddenly a whole bunch of nations right next to each other with the tech to build nuke proof rock-em sock-em robots, plus the sudden revelation that Kaiju are technologically engineered and could be reversed. There's gonna' be fallout over that for sure. It's dark, it's gritty, it's action-y, and there's avenue for a big monster resurgence that doesn't just feel like a "somehow Palpatine returned."
I'd buy 10 tickets for something like that.
Also points if the Aussies are the evil overlords, seeing as they're canonically the ones with the primo MK5 Jaeger tech.
I love how this is the same stuff that is happening with the Godzilla movies that we are getting. There is no sense of scale and it lacks everything what the first two movies accomplished.
Godzilla's franchise has been going back and forth between weight and scale far longer to the point fans can take it or leave it either way. Is Godzilla 98 for example a better G flick cause it had more weight than let's just say gvk? Absolutely not. Is the godzilla animated series worst than the godzilla anime trilogy cause the latter has weight to godzilla but the former doesn't? Absolutely not. Godzilla works regardless of the style.
PR is an original IP that needs Guillermo's style to work, otherwise it just doesn't work as PR if it tries to do any other style.
@@Kaiju-bm4ts The problem is that those were distinct different movies, series. The monsterverse is intended, as its name implies, to be the same universe, a single saga, so seeing those inconsistencies is even more jarring for those that like one version more than another all in the same line of movies. "If Godzilla can run now why didn't he do that in the first one?", etc
@@nkeneca Um..because...it's a stylistic choice to make him run in one movie and slow in another? That's not a continuity connection. Let alone not a inconsistency. It's called variety. The franchise being versatile is why the MV (just like showa/heisei) doesn't stick to the same tones or styles in every movie and doesn't repeat the same style over and over again to the point it gets stale.
This is why I said the godzilla franchise hasversatility, PR doesn't
@@nkeneca But the monstervers has sort of explained why he can run now, he literally juices up more every movie he is in, even in the Monarch show which takes place after 2014 Godzilla shows that same version just 1 year later is already walking a bit faster not running but he definitely is not as sluggish as in the original film.
@@BlazeSwigglePlayzMcguess godzilla is a terrible morning person then, I can relate.
Still the best Kaiju movie Hollywood ever made
The first time I watched Pacific Rim was on a giant tv with surround sound and some nice 3d glasses for 2013, not the blue and red kind. It has been one of my favorite movies ever since then. To bad they never made a sequel. 👀
0:36 Whats that? A fan animation?
Found it online. Origin unknown.
one thing that not a lot of people know is that Hugo Martin, the game director of Doom 2016 and Doom eternal was working alongside Guillermo del Toro designing the Jaegers and Kaijus. if you look at the movie's behind the scene, you can spot him a few times.
Pacific Rim gave me hope for a Mobile Fighter G Gundam film.
I’m just happy we got that first movie. Nothing could top that imo
I love the first one. It was such a great 3d movie. Adored it. The sequel was......there.
I hope Warner Bros reboots the Pacific Rim franchise for the Monsterverse so we can actually get a Godzilla X Kong VS Pacific Rim movie
Yo tex long time no see
Also since you're watching more anime now are you planning to put out videos related to it ?
Perhaps
Parasocial
MY GOAT DROPPED A VIDEO ON A MOVIE THAT NEVER CAME OUT WHAT A LEGEND❗❗❗❗❗
oh hell yeah, u gotta make more pacific rim vids pls
This movie is the reason i like mech genre in the first places
this movie actually performed better in China but underperformed in the US because more people wanted to see Grown Ups 2 in theaters.
This "win" was so impactful for Sony they decided to make lightning strike twice when they released "Blended" opposite of X-Men Days of Future Past.
If there were any news for a 3rd movie, i think most of us could universally wish for it to be a prequal during the glory days
There should be a prequel! There’s literally source material and comics. I’m so glad they haven’t made a 2nd movie. Hope they do :)
I got an idea, a small country with a long coast line (for example vietnam) they put all resources into a single jeager, the moive is about a duo who compete to become the pilot to defend the country, and they get help from other pilot that pay them a visit, or about a group of potential pilots get send aboard to train while the country is on count down
You should also cover the Animation versions of PACIFIC RIM
Seems you have missed it, but Guillermo said he's making a third movie, and has plans for a cinematic universe for Pacific Rim.
i stand by my opinion that pacific rim is the best live action kaiju movie and we need another anime
I hope pacific rim gets a second movie after 11 years of nothing,pacific rim is the best kaiju movie ever it must come back
I absolutely love that in the recent months; there's been a bunch of UA-camrs making videos on Pacific Rim. Hopefully it'll get the attention of someone high up and make this possible but... You can only hope right?
Honestly, the second movie had robots with rocket feet. That's enough for me to love it
i think about this at least every other week, could’ve been a great franchise
i like how the wiki has multiple pages with 3 seperate sub pages (og movie, 2nd movie, inconsistencies)
If they used Del Toro's script, Uprising might have been better received.
Pacific Rim is so great and I really want more of it. I still do, I haven’t given up on it. But I know it’s not happening, so I’m not holding my breath 😢
I swear, they better make a prequel to revive the Franchise
a prequel where they still had single drift users
It was a pilliar of my childhood along with godzilla 2014
I refuse to believe that uprising is canon in the pasific rim lore
I find it odd no one talks about the anime we got. I thought it was a lot better than uprising
Pacific rim had a lot of potential, Like gozzila and kong. The director really know how to make big monster and robot looks big and mechanical. And the Idea of humanity cooperate together to fight against alien enemy is a awesome idea. Much bigger scale than "america superhero save the world" and "family" stuffs.
Would have been sick to see a crossover with godzilla and kong and that
Now that you have listed the problems with the sequel I just realized something too. It really felt like the second film was trying to copy the first film but does not quite capture it. The Kaijus that were supposed to be the big bads was treated like your typical goons that got beaten by a bunch of children.
It does not capture the essence of the first film's fighting for humanity's survival.
4:24 jipsy danger doing half T pose was the actual reason of explosion because only full T poses can muster up the energy required to withstand the power
He needs to comeback and direct a prequel.
still waiting for Pacific Rim 2
First movie was just awsome. And the main theme slaps
Dude love this dissection of the Pacific Rim fanfilm, it was so well done but it's still got room to improve story-wise
Still needs a proper sequel though
Idk about you guys but I'm still waiting on this second movie everyone is talking about.
He didnt drop the genre, he was working on the scrip for the 2nd movie but the directors didnt wait for him because he also had other projects and they hired another guy to do the scrip, till this day I wonder how the 2nd movie wouldve been if Guillermos directed it
It actually sucks what happened in this universe. The first movie is one of the best if not the best Kaiju film of all time, then uprising killed the franchise leaving nothing behind. The black couldn't even save it. It honestly deserves another chance to be good and fulfill it's purpose as a good Kaiju universe
Imagine a universe where we got pacific rim , kong and godzilla
at least he gave us troll hunters 💀
There is a perfect universe somewhere where Pacific Rim and the Monsterverse are both a mutual success.
Imagine how happy Legendary is in that universe. And the fans.
Personally I would love to see them try again but slowly. For example a live action show series centered around a Jager engineer or even worker during the start of the Kaiju crisis would be perfect for audience and writers alike. Hell it can even retcon the original if it meant a new story could be made avoiding the mistakes of uprising.
1:18 HE'S ME BRO
For me to summarize the issues with screen play, the first was good because you had that anticipation for every movement and could never be certain if that jab or hook or sword would reach the kaiju in time for it to count. Uprising made everything far too quick and fluid, and now the robotic flaws were lacking, removing that anticipation for the slowness of everything, and that’s what made the first so great. Anticipation
Left Hemisphere Calibrating 💯
Now imagine if they made a sequel, Guillermo needs to come back.
Have you seen what ideas he had for a sequel? That garbage was 10 times worse than the actual sequel
@@steelbear2063 could you point me towards that info? 👀
Dawg i wish they wouldnt of replaced the director, it would be a dream to see a crossover wiht the monsterverse and pacfic rim
This film and Independance Day are so alike.
The main difference you feel is like the first movie just goes hard af and you just get a dopamine rush everytime a Yeager hit a kaiju with a big punch, in the second movie it’s the opposite, it makes you feel stupid for watching it and the cheesy one liners are just embarrassing
I pray that we’ll get another movie, I 100% think that if we got del back on project we could get a really good movie, pacific rim is a great movie and I find myself coming back to it.
Apparently a second movie could happen if Guillermo Del Toro comes back. If that happens Hunnam will return as well, how exciting!
Watching this video lowkey hurts cuz pacific rim was my childhood
Walking on a pool have never been the same
It's so sad they never even considered making a sequel, HUGE missed opportunity, they could never mess this up!
Not 2 days ago right when i watched pacific rim again
I think they could still do well with it. Just because the sequel that theoretically exists did bad, doesn't mean they can't just retcon it or do a prequel which i think a lot of people would like
do we have del toro script on the internet ?
May I recommend Getter Robo manga? It is pretty similar to this in a lot of ways, but a little more heightened with anime/manga craziness.
Of course! What is it?
@@TexYT Getter Robo manga is a mecha series that started in the 70s (one of the OGs of the genre) about the fight of humanity against the Dinosaur Empire. It is initially a simple story that was promotional material for the anime running at the time, but it got a sequel in the 90s, and started to really get insane. Also created the Gainax pose and heavily inspired Gurren Lagann. Unfortunately it is one of those manga with only fan translations and no official ones aside from a spin off. Although be warned that the story is unfinished due to the death of the author, but I'm pretty sure that Getter Robo Go has a conclusion, but don't quote me on that.
Order of the series is Getter Robo > Getter Rob G > Getter Rob Go > Shin Getter Robo> Getter Robo Arc
So what happened was they made a kickass movie and never thought to make a sequel
TLDR: Never take creative control away from Del Toro.
Pacific rim was awesome. I loved that movie.
The first Pacific Rim is one of my favourite movies ever and really kick started my love for the kaiju genre, then cemented by the monsterverse. Such a shame the franchise was mismanaged like it was. How good would it have been for the Pacific Rim and Godzilla franchise's to have grown alongside one another. Most likely the two universes would have merged together at some point.