I'm Not Strong Enough - The Masculinity of Mr. Incredible

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  • @master_samwise
    @master_samwise  19 днів тому +265

    Like the video and I'll do a push-up. C'mon, don't you want me to look like Mr. Incredible?
    I'll be back on camera in another few weeks. We're in the middle of moving (and have been for some time), so my main camera has been stowed away, along with my background. Once I've got the new set up, you'll be treated to my ugly mug once again. Also, that means the return of Dark Swoles.

    • @blessfullstop
      @blessfullstop 18 днів тому +4

      You got a lotta push-ups to do. I believe in you.

    • @Rhinoxsaurus
      @Rhinoxsaurus 15 днів тому +2

      Please don't lose your hair

    • @master_samwise
      @master_samwise  8 днів тому +7

      @@Rhinoxsaurus Too late. 15 years too late.

    • @Rhinoxsaurus
      @Rhinoxsaurus 8 днів тому +1

      @@master_samwise nooooo!

    • @endershepard7117
      @endershepard7117 2 дні тому

      Mr. Incredible was a b!tch because he didn’t stand on business. Everyone wanted him to team up with them and he always declined to do so. Which I respected greatly. Because some people do better solo than in a group.
      But when Syndrome tried to shame and guilt him into apologizing for not letting him be his sidekick Bob caved to Buddy and said he was sorry for how he treated him.
      Tf?!
      The worst thing that Bob did was obey the government and marry Helen and have children with her. He became domesticated and pathetic. And never truly recovered from it.

  • @occultnightingale1106
    @occultnightingale1106 11 днів тому +551

    One thing to note: Bob is, far and away, stronger than even the most powerful non-Super. He's strong enough to bend steel just by tripping on a skateboard. Yet, even at the height of his rage breaking point, he still avoids killing both his boss and Mirage, despite being fully capable of doing so without much effort. Yet, the two of them escape his grasp with their lives (and had Mr. Huph not been thrown through a dozen walls, both of them could have probably walked away from it). Even when he's at his lowest, Bob is in control of his strength, and he won't kill those who are weaker than him just because he can. Bob Parr embodies the phrase "true masculinity is having the strength to exert your will upon others, but choosing not to use it unless absolutely necessary."

    • @master_samwise
      @master_samwise  6 днів тому +66

      That's a great point.

    • @MrJakeros
      @MrJakeros 3 дні тому +11

      You know I just thought about this, and if your words ring true, then the whole train lawsuit might have been avoided if Mr. Incredible had simply used himself as the missing piece of that bridge. Sure, it sounds insane but he's Mr. Incredible - strength, and by extension physical endurance, are his modus operandi.

    • @occultnightingale1106
      @occultnightingale1106 3 дні тому +32

      @@MrJakeros I'm pretty sure the hole in the bridge was way too large for him to have done so, and even then, he would have needed to make sure the drain's wheels all connected properly to the track on the other side to avoid derailment. It's far from simple, and given his time constraints, it would be extremely difficult for a precision-based Super, much less Mr. Incredible, who is known for Strength, not Dexterity.

    • @MrJakeros
      @MrJakeros 3 дні тому +1

      @@occultnightingale1106 Twas but a thought, however unlikely. 🤔

    • @ToxicBastard
      @ToxicBastard 3 дні тому

      True; no matter what Bob keeps his cool just enough that he can restrain himself from homicide down to a deserved ass-kicking.

  • @Ultraman950
    @Ultraman950 19 днів тому +857

    Fun Fact: The island that most of the movie takes place on is called Nomanisan.
    No-man-is-an Island, if you will.

    • @Luke_SkywaIker
      @Luke_SkywaIker 12 днів тому +79

      Brad Bird is a damn genius

    • @JoshConder
      @JoshConder 11 днів тому +19

      I’m glad I’m not the only person who picked that up after so many years.

    • @932ForeverLove
      @932ForeverLove 8 днів тому +4

      Smhs

    • @blahthebiste7924
      @blahthebiste7924 5 днів тому +4

      I literally realized this 2 weeks ago on rewatch

  • @Sly-Moose
    @Sly-Moose 20 днів тому +1169

    In the wise words of Caesar:
    "Ape alone, weak. Ape together, strong."

    • @scottybreuer
      @scottybreuer 19 днів тому +97

      Took me a second...
      "Oh, THAT Caesar."

    • @buccaneercat
      @buccaneercat 19 днів тому +41

      Julius Caesar was a visionary
      👏😔

    • @nostalji75
      @nostalji75 19 днів тому +26

      @@buccaneercat I think he is talking about a slightly more hairy Ceasar ;)

    • @HaydenStephens515
      @HaydenStephens515 18 днів тому +16

      Awesome quote, Dude! I'm seriously hoping Kingdom of the Planet of the Apes lives up to the Caesar-Trilogy! Also, just a minor spelling correction, you forgot to an 's' at the end of the second 'Ape' to pluralize "Apes together, strong."

    • @jbach2002
      @jbach2002 13 днів тому +6

      @@scottybreuerlol same
      I was like “that doesn’t sound like something a Roman would say”

  • @TitusPaton
    @TitusPaton 20 днів тому +1110

    in the endless quest for strength one must accept we will always fall, but what separates the ordinary from the extraordinary is how you get up from your failure

    • @master_samwise
      @master_samwise  19 днів тому +114

      Why do we fall, Master Bruce?

    • @jbowenii
      @jbowenii 19 днів тому +52

      Whats the most important step a man can take?

    • @jamestolbert1856
      @jamestolbert1856 19 днів тому +39

      @@master_samwiseso we can pick ourselves up.

    • @the_well-known_stranger2275
      @the_well-known_stranger2275 19 днів тому +34

      @@jboweniithe next one, always the next one.

    • @biologygeek4242
      @biologygeek4242 18 днів тому +14

      If I must fall, I will rise each time a better man.

  • @elithesia781
    @elithesia781 16 днів тому +210

    One thing you can also notice is how, during the final battle, Mr. Incredible starts to show an inclination for understanding the strengths of others and how to best use them. He trusts Dash to go long to catch the remote or for Helen to handle the Omnidroid's laser gun. A lot of media will depict someone who is very physically strong as not being the brightest and needing someone else to take the tactical lead, but the final battle depicts Mr. Incredible as adaptive, intelligent, and capable to leading others. This is something I REALLY wish the second film had touched upon more because I think it shows a very interesting progression of his character and other ways for him to be strong.

    • @Eilonwy95
      @Eilonwy95 15 днів тому +25

      Good point. Mr Incredible really is shown to be resourceful and more than just muscle even earlier in how he defeats the first omnidroid. He figures out it’s weakness and wins even though he isn’t in peak shape yet. This comes up again in the final battle as you mentioned.

    • @orangetaho4u207
      @orangetaho4u207 6 днів тому +15

      Because I'm formulating, okay! I'm taking in information! I'm processing! I'm doing the math, I'm fixing the boyfriend, and keeping the baby from turning into a flaming monster! How do I do it? By rolling with the punches, baby! I eat thunder and crap lightening, okay? Because I'm Mr. Incredible! Not "Mr. So-So" or "Mr. Mediocre Guy"! Mr. Incredible!

    • @robinthrush9672
      @robinthrush9672 4 дні тому +13

      My only qualm is the insinuation that Mr. Incredible was ever shown to not be these things. Yes, he led a secret vigilante life from his family, but he always appreciated what they could do (was even complaining that Dash wasn't allowed to do what he could!) and was shown to be able to assess a complex situation even on his wedding day (takes care of a cat in a tree AND a high speed chase with the tree, assesses fall rate of jumper and his ability to intercept fall at a lower floor after subduing thief).

  • @scottybreuer
    @scottybreuer 19 днів тому +559

    In the words of Screen Junkies:
    "There's already a good Fantastic 4 movie. It's called 'The Incredibles' and it's perfect!"

    • @BladesOfLight
      @BladesOfLight 4 дні тому +20

      Oh my goodness. The stretchy smart one, the strong durable one, the invisible force field one, and the fast-moving hothead

    • @theanimekid7839
      @theanimekid7839 2 дні тому +1

      Jack-Jack also has the fire and random impulses.

  • @thechad4485
    @thechad4485 16 днів тому +90

    “It’s the duty of the strong to protect the weak.”
    I immediately picture, “I CAN’T LOSE YOU AGAIN! I’m not… not strong enough.” Proceeded by Hellen lifting up and protecting Bob’s heart. Bob may have been physically strong, but in this situation, he was the weak one needing his wife’s strength. By being willing to accept her strength, in humility, he shows his good character. Had he been prideful, he would have lost everything.

    • @EliteElk221
      @EliteElk221 4 дні тому +8

      Completely agree, such a powerful moment in the film that really showcases the genuine feminine strength Helen is able to use to help Bob. Just a wonderfully vulnerable moment of honesty.

    • @thechad4485
      @thechad4485 4 дні тому +8

      @@EliteElk221 And no sane person could call Bob any less of a man for being open to being lifted up by his wife’s strength.

    • @rhondahoward8025
      @rhondahoward8025 4 дні тому +6

      "If we work together, you won't have to be."

  • @jesselee8963
    @jesselee8963 20 днів тому +420

    I never noticed the box was labeled awards. It could be the kids’ awards but it is most likely hers.

    • @Eilonwy95
      @Eilonwy95 20 днів тому +68

      I absolutely love the theory that it is full of her awards. It fits so well with her character in contrast to Bob. I can’t believe I never thought of it on my own

  • @RedLeif1
    @RedLeif1 20 днів тому +672

    I JUST NOTICED! THE OLD LADY THAT MR. INCREDIBLE IS HELPING IN THE INSURANCE COMPANY IS THE EXACT SAME LADY WHOSE CAT HE SAVED ALL THOSE YEARS AGO!
    Also Samwise, thanks for doing these videos! In a world that seems to think that masculinity is a toxic trait, you help remind people that there is nothing wrong with masculinity or femininity.

  • @GGBlaster
    @GGBlaster 19 днів тому +387

    “I’m not strong enough” is a trope of the superhero genre that I don’t think can be overused.
    Tony Stark, obsessing over protecting the people he cares about, yet ever fearful that it will never be enough.
    Times when Barry Allen, even as the Flash, was just not fast enough.
    Luisa Madrigal, who was secretly caving under the pressure of being the -oldest and- strongest child of the family.
    Heck, Anakin Skywalker even fits the trope, albeit more as a cautionary tale.
    It’s honestly so humanizing to see these powerhouses cave to the crippling feeling of inadequacy. It echoes a solemn truth that no one is immune to the toxic cycle of not being “good enough.”

    • @rRecoveryProd
      @rRecoveryProd 19 днів тому +13

      Actually, Luisa is the middle child, while Isabela is the eldest. But yeah, she is the strongest.

    • @GGBlaster
      @GGBlaster 18 днів тому +2

      @@rRecoveryProd oh haha 😅 not sure if I just forgot or if I just didn’t pick that up when watching the film

    • @Eilonwy95
      @Eilonwy95 18 днів тому +3

      @@rRecoveryProd
      Is she? I always assumed she was the oldest because she gets mentioned before Isabella in “Family Madrigal” and in “Surface Pressure” she sings “give it to your sister, your sister’s older” but she could just mean older than specifically mirabel. I guess it was probably mostly the vibe I got from her as feeling that responsibility. And I relate to her most as the oldest daughter in my family. I could totally be wrong here.

    • @kanyerahming
      @kanyerahming 18 днів тому +4

      Anime too

    • @KayronTheFifth
      @KayronTheFifth 17 днів тому +19

      I think that's actually the main dislike people have with Marvel's new heroes. They're overpowered and perfect (to the writer), but they also *think* they're perfect and don't have fears of failure or try to improve.
      To add to the list, there's Toby Maguire from the Spiderman I grew up with, pretty much the entire cast of X-men, and Harry Potter to draw from popular movies. :)

  • @ggpt9641
    @ggpt9641 20 днів тому +286

    Something about good media when Mr Incredible and Toph can have the same character arc, of learning to get stronger and accepting and other's help.

    • @Eilonwy95
      @Eilonwy95 20 днів тому +14

      Oh that is an excellent point!

    • @aliehassan2670
      @aliehassan2670 19 днів тому +10

      Ooh, I'd love to see a video discussing these two very similar character arcs and how they have masculine and feminine expressions respectively. :D

  • @EthanMallonee
    @EthanMallonee 19 днів тому +239

    The Incredibles is easily the best superhero film, likely because it isn't trying to be. It's the story of a marriage and family and the struggles and challenges they face.
    The superhero setting in this story does what I love most about speculative fiction. It mythicizes the story and brings the metaphorical into the literal to exaggerate the point. The Incredibles does this flawlessly.

    • @connyslayer4661
      @connyslayer4661 11 днів тому +7

      Great points and for me, its one of the best superhero movies ever made in history. It makes a beautiful presentation about how Superheroes can be complex characters showing their invulnerable but also vulnerable sides to balance things out. My favourite superhero movies have this great element of balance that is so important.

    • @r.s.2890
      @r.s.2890 5 днів тому +5

      I recall an article or interview that the director said "its not a superhero movie. Its about a family that happen to be superheroes"

    • @Kyumifun
      @Kyumifun 6 годин тому +1

      This and Megamind (the original one...)

  • @rikimez127
    @rikimez127 20 днів тому +208

    Since becoming a husband and father this video and the movie bring me to tears. Reliance on your spouse is a virtue to understand and be proud of. Always working together to be a better team

    • @master_samwise
      @master_samwise  19 днів тому +21

      Glad you liked it!

    • @932ForeverLove
      @932ForeverLove 8 днів тому +7

      May you and your spouse be blessed with many years and prosperity.

  • @TriggerCynical
    @TriggerCynical 20 днів тому +159

    Something that I noticed when watching this video (though it unfortunately didn't get mentioned) is that the line "We're in this together, for better or for worse" (i.e. Mr. Incredible and Elastigirl's wedding vows) are not only said at the beginning of their journey when they get married but also at the crux and climax, just before they fight they Omnidroid. That (i.e. their wedding vows) are what proves to be strong enough to defeat the threat to their family.

    • @master_samwise
      @master_samwise  19 днів тому +28

      Oh I noticed that too. But some stuff I leave unsaid. Show, don't tell, ya know?

  • @12SickOne34
    @12SickOne34 20 днів тому +99

    13:21 This is exactly what my father taught me, what it means to be a man. To be a good man.
    And I am trying.

    • @michaelyoung7261
      @michaelyoung7261 19 днів тому +5

      And I’m sure you’ll get there, long after you’ve inspired someone else to become a good man, for that is our lesson to share: we strive to be good.

  • @TheRogueCommand
    @TheRogueCommand 19 днів тому +21

    In the words of Rocky Balboa, “It ain’t about how hard you can hit, it’s about how hard you can get hit, and keep moving forward.”

  • @drakelordiscool
    @drakelordiscool 18 днів тому +31

    When I was a kid "The Incredibles" was never my favorite movie. Now that I can watch it and appreciate it as an adult, I realize how good it really is. Being about a midlife crisis I'd have to say this is the most adult animation I think we will ever see from Pixar

  • @maniacalkoala
    @maniacalkoala 19 днів тому +78

    This video hits really hard, and I needed it rn. As a kid, elementary through high school, I never got anything lower than a C. I was an exceptional student. I had no anxieties about my future. Then I went to community college. It was an entirely different environment. I had to force social interaction, the professors weren't as invested in me as teachers used to be, it was much more impersonal, and I didn't have any real desire to be there. It's been draining and depressing. My first year, I was getting low Bs and low Cs, and I was honest about it with my parents. Last year, I failed most of my classes, and I hid it from everyone in my life. This past year, they wouldn't let me back in the fall semester, and my advisor only let me retake one class this semester. It was going okay until my laptop crashed. I lost 2 weeks. Then I ran out of my ADHD medication, so I was overwhelmed and unable to catch up. All this time, I've been desperately trying to catch back up so I could come forward with the truth but soften the blow with the good news that I had improved. But that was never going to happen. Besides people I knew from college, nobody has known about this. My parents think I'm about to graduate and get my associate degree in three weeks. Tomorrow night, when none of us are busy, I'm going to tell them the truth. I've never felt more guilty or ashamed, but this is how I move forward. I'm not strong enough. I need to take a different path than college, I'm glad I finally realized that, but there is no moving forward without being honest with the ones you love and letting them help you. These past 3 years have been the worst of my life, and I have myself to blame for thinking I could get out of it on my own. This is the second time I'm talking about it. I talked to a close friend about it this past weekend, and I'm about to talk to my old youth pastor about it. Tomorrow, I stop hiding, and let my family know everything. It's going to be the hardest thing I've ever done, but without doing that myself, there's no moving forward. If you're reading this, trust me. Always be up front with the people you love, even if it's hard, or it will be much more painful if you wait. We are stronger when we rely on those we love.
    Edit: I talked to my parents, my dad was understanding and forgiving. My mom said she loves me, but it will take a while for her to even process what happened. I can't expect her to forgive me until she comes to terms with the situation. I understand her frustration and why she feels betrayed. For at least the rest of this year, I will pick up more hours at my job to pay back wasted money, and I will wait for what I feel called to do with my life before returning to college or finding a trade to go into. It will take a while for things to fully heal, but I know they will, and I'm less anxious about my future than I've been in a long time. I appreciate all the support.

    • @master_samwise
      @master_samwise  19 днів тому +19

      I can't imagine how tough that must be. Good for you, good luck, and God bless. There is always a path forward.

    • @maniacalkoala
      @maniacalkoala 19 днів тому +5

      @@master_samwise thank you for the support. It means a lot.

    • @scottybreuer
      @scottybreuer 19 днів тому +8

      For what it's worth coming from a complete stranger, you're making the right decision. It's probably going to hurt to expose the lies but the only way out is through. Stay strong and remember that you're not alone.

    • @danielmejorado6098
      @danielmejorado6098 19 днів тому +6

      Starting the conversation is the hardest part. Often times. We struggle to find the perfect way to start a conversation about being imperfect.
      I find the following is helpful to me.
      Mom, Dad. I need help. I'm trying hard, but I'm struggling....

    • @Medevil9908
      @Medevil9908 17 днів тому +3

      We need an update! How did it go?

  • @immortalmonk2891
    @immortalmonk2891 20 днів тому +70

    The master has returned

  • @currymuncher42069
    @currymuncher42069 19 днів тому +30

    Master Samwise is the most masculine of us all for showing us the true masculinity in all these great characters

  • @TheWoodWraith
    @TheWoodWraith 20 днів тому +134

    10 Heartbeats...?
    Life before death...
    Strength before weakness...
    JOURNEY BEFORE DESTINATION!

    • @rikimez127
      @rikimez127 20 днів тому +16

      Samwise Stormblessed!

    • @master_samwise
      @master_samwise  19 днів тому +36

      8 months till Wind and Truth. Once I've read it, the Stormlight videos will start.

    • @f.ah.c2114
      @f.ah.c2114 19 днів тому +8

      So around 9 months for greatenss then, gotcha, will add it to the calendar.

    • @master_samwise
      @master_samwise  19 днів тому +11

      @@f.ah.c2114 You severely overestimate how quickly I work, my friend.

    • @f.ah.c2114
      @f.ah.c2114 19 днів тому +4

      @@master_samwise its fine, your talent warrant whichever wait

  • @user-gi8pk9uc7q
    @user-gi8pk9uc7q 19 днів тому +28

    Masculinity doesn't HAVE to be toxic!

    • @dadecalder7796
      @dadecalder7796 3 дні тому +7

      Genuinely, it drives me nuts when people try to claim toxic masculinity is calling masculinity toxic. It's only the toxic aspects of it. The unfeeling masculinity, the silent masculinity. Not all masculinity is toxic and I wish more people on the opposing side understood that

    • @fartherdude5062
      @fartherdude5062 2 дні тому +2

      @@dadecalder7796well to be fair a lot of people use the word “toxic masculinity” to describe things about men they either don’t like or understand. Had a GF who said it was toxic masculinity to not always share my emotions. The fact is as a man I can choose when I share my emotions and I do when I feel it is necessary but sometimes I don’t. That’s not toxic masculinity. Also seen people describe men joking around with each other and giving each other a hard time toxic masculinity. Of course it isn’t in contexts it can be I guess but we had words for this long ago. Being a good man or a bad man. We all know the differences.

    • @Aqueox
      @Aqueox День тому

      Masculinity isn’t. Simple as. Anyone saying otherwise is a subversive and a hostile, and they will not survive.

  • @Sulfuron41
    @Sulfuron41 19 днів тому +22

    As a man shouldering the roles of husband and father, I tend to view myself as the rock that shields and protects my family from the ferocious storms of the outside world! It becomes easy to believe that if I falter, show any cracks at all, display fear, anxiety, or despair, my family will see them and crumble. I imagine them thinking that if something is bad enough to cause me to be afraid, it must be absolutely horrific! So, I cannot fail, for if I do, my family will surely be swept away!
    And yet, this is a common fallacy that many of us fall victim to. This is that pride that wells up from deep within us as men and tells us we MUST be strong in all things! We get things done! People rely on us! They depend on us! Not the other way around! But that's just it... We cannot take on these roles (husband, father, etc) alone and also be successful. We will never be strong enough.
    And that brings me to one of the hardest lessons that I am atill learning. It is this:
    It is a common belief that the act of giving or generosity is a difficult, unnatural action that requires great selflessness. Generosity is lauded as heroic, but there is actually something tied to generosity that is even greater in its difficulty to carry out and higher in its achievement. It is the ability to ask for and willingly accept help when it is needed... The ability to give others the opportunity to be generous and humbly accept that generosity.
    It is so incredibly hard to admit that I cannot do something, that I'm scared, or that I need help. I, even to this day, will find myself doing everything I can in order to avoid these things. And yet, when I finally do, it ends up leaving me wonder why I didn't ask or say something sooner... Why was I being so stubborn? When you share your feelings, especially with a loving spouse, together, you actually become stronger! Your cracks end up being a source of even greater strength!

    • @Eilonwy95
      @Eilonwy95 18 днів тому +2

      So true. Than you for your insight.

  • @nocursewm2938
    @nocursewm2938 9 днів тому +6

    I’ve said it before The Incredibles is a better than perfect movie. Bob’s scenes after his family is “killed”, when Mirage & Helen rescued him, and the mentioned “I’m not strong enough!” Those scenes stay with you.

  • @Nunes_Caio
    @Nunes_Caio 10 днів тому +7

    One detail I love about his "I'm not strong enough scene" with Helen is that there is a great sense of guilt and shame in him because he is the one to blame for almost losing them, so when he orders them to stay in the car is not because he thinks he is strong to take on the omni droid alone but rather because he wouldn't be able to live with himself if he put them in danger again. So when Helen kisses him it's very much a comforting kiss as it is a passionate one. I brings everythings in this scene together soo damn beautifully.

    • @master_samwise
      @master_samwise  8 днів тому +3

      There are so many levels to that scene. It's so freaking good.

  • @Eilonwy95
    @Eilonwy95 20 днів тому +31

    10/10 movie. Most relatable and deep superhero movie ever made.

  • @HybridianXIX
    @HybridianXIX 20 днів тому +46

    This is a legit thought provoking video. I think it's excellent. Keep it up.

  • @felixm.8910
    @felixm.8910 19 днів тому +18

    I literally rewatched The Incredibles today. It's one of the films in my top 10 list for a number of reasons. Soundtrack, editing, storytelling and character-development are all on point!
    And my favorite scene is the talk bob and helen have after they get out of the RV

  • @notproductiveproductions3504
    @notproductiveproductions3504 15 днів тому +6

    Stories we need more of: “death is too easy, you’ll have to *work* for your redemption arc”, the hero they didn’t want and the question of why he’s still protecting them, coming of age story disguised as a battle shounen

  • @octaviusmorlock
    @octaviusmorlock 20 днів тому +26

    Hold up: Is the lady who Mr. Incredible had to deny the insurance claim the same lady who's cat he saved?

    • @master_samwise
      @master_samwise  19 днів тому +19

      Maybe? Even if she's not, the similarity is still striking enough to emphasize the disparity between Bob and Mr. Incredible.

  • @hariman7727
    @hariman7727 19 днів тому +30

    Fitness and coordination/strength might save either your life or someone else' life in an emergency.
    Being healthy also means you're less likely to die early from heart attacks, diabetes, and more.
    Staying honest and open with your spouse is also vital to a relationship.
    EDIT: Also, the Bible speaks of a man's duty to protect women/his wife, but also that the man will need the strength of his wife too.

    • @blairdurward4324
      @blairdurward4324 18 днів тому +3

      There are some real gems of wisdom in there, that’s a good one

  • @dustinwashburn1283
    @dustinwashburn1283 17 днів тому +6

    I think it's worth mentioning that Bob is almost always zoned out until he feels like he has a purpose again. At which point he is much more attentive to his family. True he should be attentive in general, but it does show just how much difference having purpose is to men. And it does so accurately.

  • @aso375
    @aso375 19 днів тому +25

    For me, the best thing about the movie is when Bob belittles his son's graduation, considering it a celebration of mediocrity that is not worth his time. In his view, Dash should rise above the common man and not have to adapt to the world of mundane people.
    He has a point, the damn legalistic system is strangling him and sinking him into a world of moral mediocrity and has deprived him of his purpose and identity which was his source of joy and pride.
    Helen, on the other hand, believes that Bob is disconnecting from reality and sending a negative message to his children, do not strive to study or excel, because that is for mediocre pathetic muggles and you are a superior species.
    Have you played a prank on your teacher with your powers? You haven't done anything wrong son, having powers gives you the right to treat those muggles with as rudeness and contempt as you like.
    Bob sends a cynical and irresponsible message to his children that may end up alienating them from normal society.

    • @Kai-Xi
      @Kai-Xi 19 днів тому +17

      Interesting perspective! That is not at all how I read that line.
      Plenty of people without superpowers have the same mindset as Bob here. 4th grade to 5th grade isn't even moving on from elementary school. Calling it a graduation makes it sound like an achievement, instead of something normal. Bob's comment how "they keep inventing new ways to celebrate mediocrity," is about how these things discourage anyone from trying to be super in any way (powers or no).
      Meanwhile him getting excited about Dash pulling a prank is not saying it's okay for Dash to be rude to people without powers, but instead "my son is really talented and I want to encourage him to be proud of his talents and not shamed for having a talent." No one else in Dash's life is acknowledging how excited he gets about being fast, with his sister finding it annoying, his mom saying he has to keep it hidden, and therefore he's not able to tell any friends he may have. To me, this is the same as a parent being excited for kids showing off a picture they drew or something they made in minecraft, even when they were supposed to be doing homework; it's not the ignoring school work that is being praised, but the parent isn't letting that negative aspect shut down the kids' joy or discouraging them from working at things they are good at.

    • @Markus2E5I6
      @Markus2E5I6 19 днів тому +16

      I never took it as him thinking powered people don't deal with mudane stuff but the sheer stupidity of having a ceremony for just going up a grade. That felt more of a dad vs mom thing. Dad thinks its stupid and not noteworthy enough for a ceremony whilst mom wants to celebeate everything about her children. If you celebrate everything nothing is special.

  • @GGBlaster
    @GGBlaster 19 днів тому +15

    Absolutely beautiful. And it blows my mind that films have been teaching wholesome masculinity decades ago, and long before the term “toxic masculinity” entered mainstream discourse.

  • @jamestolbert1856
    @jamestolbert1856 17 днів тому +28

    I love how in this movie, they don’t make him a blundering fool, but is actually a capable, smart, alpha male but his ego can get the better of him.

    • @Eilonwy95
      @Eilonwy95 15 днів тому +14

      Absolutely! Too often we see the strong character or really most dads in media turned into dumb meatheads or weak losers. Mr Incredible is a good man with intelligence, courage, and integrity. But he is also very human and has flaws he has to grow from.

    • @nkbujvytcygvujno6006
      @nkbujvytcygvujno6006 6 днів тому +6

      Was on board til you reminded me that people still believe in the alpha male myth and influence other people who don't know any better to believe it too. Thanks for souring an otherwise harmless comment.

    • @jamestolbert1856
      @jamestolbert1856 6 днів тому +4

      @@nkbujvytcygvujno6006 Im sorry . I didn’t know that it was such a big issue. Forgive me

    • @ZerglingLover
      @ZerglingLover 4 дні тому +5

      @@jamestolbert1856Calling Mr. Incredible an “alpha male” is, quite possibly, one of the most cringe and shameful things our species has ever done.

    • @easiestcc6451
      @easiestcc6451 4 дні тому +5

      Imagine unironically using the term "Alpha Male"

  • @shinigamimiroku3723
    @shinigamimiroku3723 19 днів тому +7

    "Two are better than one, because they have a good reward for their work. For if one falls, the other one will lift up his fellow. But woe to him who is alone when he falls and has not another to lift him up!"
    As much as we men recognize that we're called to be the pillar of our homes and communities, the fact is that we cannot do so alone, and this has been true since the beginning. Even in this last century, the truism has been restated as "No man is an island" (and yes, the name of the remote island Bob is taken to for his "mission" is a reference to said quote). I'll be honest, I've been feeling this for a bit now, between not being able to do the work I'm called to do and having to focus on helping take care of my aging grandfather as well as my sister and her son. I know I need this "holding pattern," but I also know how anxious it makes me and how the doubts gnaw at my mind as a result. Thankfully, this movie exists to remind me that I don't need to go it alone, that I have people I can rely on for help.
    Truly, one of the greatest movies of all time.

  • @JoshO423
    @JoshO423 17 днів тому +4

    Dang. Never thought I’d be inspired by a breakdown of Mr. Incredible.

  • @SuperSpider9098
    @SuperSpider9098 19 днів тому +5

    Incredibles 2 made me forget how good the first one is
    thanks for the reminder

  • @Zindarak137
    @Zindarak137 5 днів тому +3

    Thank you for being such a voice of reason for men caught in this modern whirlpool of over-feminization and over-masculinization. The men of the West need to be reminded about the healthy ways we can represent our masculinity and it's always refreshing to hear you reference how these examples can be appllied for a healthier masculinity to strive for.
    When I see things like the struggle of "Mr. Incredible" and his relatable inability to admit his weaknesses, I'm always reminded of a speech from "Guildarts Clive" in "Fairy Tail".
    Natsu (Main Character) was trying to fight a much stronger wizard (Guildarts) for an entrance exam to advance his rank in his guild. After Guildarts revealed his truly overwhelming strength, Natsu, who is normally supremely headstrong and prideful, had no choice but to bow down and surrender out of fear.
    The speech Guildarts gave after seeing this admission of weakness and watching Natsu bow before him will always stick with me and has helped to shape me into the man I am today.
    "A wise choice...
    Those with the courage to re-sheathe their blades are exceptionally rare...
    Fear is not "evil"...
    It is to know your own weakness.
    When you know your weakness, you can become both strong and gentle...
    You pass, kid!"
    We all have weaknesses. To ignore them is to court ruin. To acknowledge them, work on them and accept the help of others to make up for them is the path to fulfillment.

  • @immortalmonk2891
    @immortalmonk2891 20 днів тому +11

    Glad this movie is getting the breakdown and love I've always had for it.

  • @jonathanb.benderson9494
    @jonathanb.benderson9494 20 днів тому +10

    Yeah Incredibles has always been one of my favorites. It and Treasure Planet live in same space in my head. Treasure Planet would be a great video topic. Underappreciated classic.

    • @master_samwise
      @master_samwise  19 днів тому +4

      It's been forever since I've seen Treasure Planet... to the point that I'm not sure I've actually seen it, haha. I will have to revisit it.

  • @michaelcarlton1484
    @michaelcarlton1484 5 днів тому +4

    Two superheroes being together probably leads to a lot of broken furniture...

  • @mjkazi2273
    @mjkazi2273 19 днів тому +4

    the amazing thing with the incredibles is if you take out all of the superhero aspects it still works as a very strong movie with nothing getting lost

  • @felsonduem7100
    @felsonduem7100 19 днів тому +5

    This video came at a really good time for me. I'm currently struggling at home with my wife as I'm working a lot of overtime to help with expenses and she is taking care of our one-year-old. I find my very little time off I have immense guilt when spending it alone and I end up attempting to do everything myself when home or just completely give up and don't help at all. Lots of feelings that I'm not good enough, and I know I need to ask for help and try to work together. Thanks for your insight, I'm really going to try and modify my behavior and takeaway a lot from this video. Great content as always, keep it up!

    • @Eilonwy95
      @Eilonwy95 18 днів тому +1

      That is a tough season. Good for you to try to work as a team. God bless.

  • @OntheOtherHandVideos
    @OntheOtherHandVideos 20 днів тому +8

    You put into words why I also come back to this film time and time again. The amazing music also helps too. :D
    Love the Stormlight references!

  • @British_Rogue
    @British_Rogue 18 днів тому +11

    9:18 _"If you're not happy, how can you spread cheer?"_
    Quite easily. Just ask Robin Williams. Oh, wait...

    • @RJALEXANDER777
      @RJALEXANDER777 6 днів тому +4

      I'd guess that in Robin's case his happiness was making other people happy. He wasn't hiding behind a mask of comedy, he genuinely loved and enjoyed making people laugh and smile. In that environment it allowed him a reprieve from his own demons and gave him a sense of purpose in addition to his acting, but whenever he was alone with his own thoughts (or worse feeling alone in a crowd) that's when the soul-destroying thoughts would return. Speaking as someone who's been there I feel I can relate to Robin.

  • @HowdyYT
    @HowdyYT 20 днів тому +31

    WALL·E criminally underrated on your list

    • @master_samwise
      @master_samwise  19 днів тому +8

      It's an incredible movie. Everything A tier on up would be (IMO) an acceptable favorite Pixar movie.

    • @HowdyYT
      @HowdyYT 19 днів тому +4

      @@master_samwise would be interesting to see the reasoning behind your list sometime. Maybe a livestream or dedicated video.

    • @master_samwise
      @master_samwise  19 днів тому +6

      @@HowdyYT I threw that together pretty quickly, haha. But that's not a bad idea.

    • @mattmyman9468
      @mattmyman9468 18 днів тому

      ikr sue this mans

    • @rossjones8656
      @rossjones8656 13 днів тому

      A teir isn't so bad.

  • @mrwick5828
    @mrwick5828 3 дні тому +1

    “I can’t lose you again! I’m not strong enough.” Might be my favorite line in any movie, stuck with me since I was a little kid.

  • @scroletyper8286
    @scroletyper8286 18 днів тому +3

    Treat others how you want to be treated. Start by knowing how to treat yourself

  • @flameblade3
    @flameblade3 5 днів тому +3

    I’ve had my own long battle with internalizing the “ideal” masculinity, being able to do it all, no help, helping everyone. Through friendships, my wonderful girlfriend, and a special game I hold close to my heart, I learned that I *can’t* do it all, and that’s ok. I have friends who will support me, friends who are ok with seeing me weak and vulnerable and not think any less of me for it, friends who I can ask for help simply when I think I’m not up to the task and they can pick up where I fell out. If being masculine means supporting everyone, you must remember that everyone includes yourself, a support pillar with a cracked base can only be covered up for so long until it buckles under its own weight. Take care of yourself

  • @JJJSmit9026
    @JJJSmit9026 18 днів тому +2

    It feels like it is getting harder to find examples of good masculinity in modern day, thank you for this.

  • @zulfirdauszain8810
    @zulfirdauszain8810 20 днів тому +6

    thanks sam. this is the pep talk i needed

  • @theduke7539
    @theduke7539 4 дні тому +1

    Mr Incredible is the definition of positive masculinity, using your strength to lift others up while also over coming your own pride to let others help you when you need it. Be a rock when you need to, but dont get so used to being a rock that you never let anyone in. Always try to be better, and never put anyone down because they arent on your level

  • @MangGoose5
    @MangGoose5 18 днів тому +2

    Dude your peak at explaining things down to its simplest form. I hope to learn to put that effort into filmmaking

  • @Micstand4
    @Micstand4 4 дні тому +1

    You uploaded this around the time i rented incredibles 1 on my phone to watch at work and i played it like 2 more extra times.

  • @aisleelovegreenwood6448
    @aisleelovegreenwood6448 9 днів тому +3

    Everybody has weaknesses, and everybody has strengths. It feels like it makes you weak to admit you need help, because it means you couldn't do it on your own, but if you _do_ admit to it, and let others help you, then you automatically become stronger than the next guy who _couldn't_ accept help. You now have someone filling in those holes for you: those weak-points that made you structurally unsound. If you sweep them under the rug, you're going to accidentally fall into them, or perhaps worse, a loved-one will. If we all support each other, we all stay strong. If you make yourself the pillar for others, and you let yourself break rather than letting others assist, you will then cause them all to fall, too. So just let them help you, rather than trying to quietly fall or trying to stand on your own. Besides, they need to feel like the hero, too, just as much as you do: let them feel good about themselves by helping you a little.

  • @OrionSeas
    @OrionSeas 17 днів тому +1

    This is a beautiful video. Thank you for making it.

  • @NMJZ
    @NMJZ 16 днів тому +2

    "Only when weak may I carry my true strength"

  • @Sonic-oe1in
    @Sonic-oe1in 19 днів тому +2

    That was a great video man thank you for talking on these topics

  • @Slexylexy
    @Slexylexy 18 днів тому +1

    Another amazing video! Thank you so much!

  • @Treebohr
    @Treebohr 19 днів тому +3

    The Incredibles is my favorite movie. I'm here for it.

  • @ricardofigueroamontero4545
    @ricardofigueroamontero4545 20 днів тому +8

    Love your videos man glad I was able to found you

  • @joaomarques478
    @joaomarques478 5 днів тому

    Outstanding video!
    Thank you!

  • @lucasfroguel3950
    @lucasfroguel3950 5 днів тому

    Thanks, man. I needed to be reminded of this today.

  • @KodiFootball
    @KodiFootball 7 днів тому +1

    Beautiful work, watched all the way through.

  • @Leahs_Dad
    @Leahs_Dad 17 днів тому +1

    I didn't get a notification for this so adding a comment for the algo. It shouldn't be this hard to find content as amazing as yours for young men to look to for guidance. Great job man

  • @georgekostaras
    @georgekostaras 8 днів тому +1

    What I love about Mr incredible is that his physical strength is never in question. It’s his moral strength that gets tested. When he starts lying to his loved ones that’s when things go wrong for him, when he’s using his strength for thrills and glory

  • @skaidonC
    @skaidonC 19 днів тому +6

    I see quotes from The Way of Kings. I approve. I simple man.

  • @calebtitler1847
    @calebtitler1847 19 днів тому +3

    This video was very touching for me
    As someonw who is an artist, both rule 34 and sfw I often struggle with the feeling of not being good enough or just hating what ive drawn in the past and not feeling stong enough to forgive myself, i often beat myself down for my past mistakes and also somebody who is struggling with losing weight and eating healthy I have also felt like a failure for what my life is, as someone who dreams of being an animator and a game designer, it always feels ill never achieve my dreams because of who i am. But the thing that keeps me going, my brother and my very supportive friends, im blessed to have mature and caring
    I may be a struggling 24 year old trying to find his way in life, eatching this video gave me more strengths i need, ive learned from my mistakes in the past and must work on myself to improve as a person, Ive left twitter which improved my mental health, and I am working on myself to continue getting healthy again and grow as a person until i reach the end of life. The incredibles is such an amazing film and my all time favorite super hero movie next two spiderverse, and those two movies made me more confident in myself. Thabk you for this breakdown

  • @matthewjohnson2428
    @matthewjohnson2428 19 днів тому +2

    Gosh dang it, every time you post I get slightly frustrated with my relatively mundane life now that most of my major goals have been achieved and I'm working on finding new ones while I search for the right woman. In many ways, I feel like Bob; going to work just to make money but not to provide, being a part of a close church community but also feeling a bit on the outside because I'm the only one in my friend group who isn't married with kids (or kids on the way), I train regularly to be a good protector, but hope I'm never in a position where I have to be. I need to hit the gym.

  • @natecall2518
    @natecall2518 18 днів тому +1

    Thank you for this

  • @LaBarata12
    @LaBarata12 19 днів тому +1

    Stellar work as always

  • @elperrodelautumo7511
    @elperrodelautumo7511 17 днів тому +2

    The movie title is called the incredibles and it refers to Mr Incredible and his family. The family that motivates him to overcome any adversity. Even if the adversary was a fan boy of his. Before the whole public turned on the superhero culture. Seeing them as glorified vigilantes with near destruction power that scares the public instead of making the public feel motivated.

  • @eliuryes2778
    @eliuryes2778 4 дні тому +2

    This movie is the prime example of why I detest the argument: "Animated movies don't have to be good if it's meant for kids". Yes, most animated media in the west is catered for young children but don't forget that they are first and foremost a family movie. A movie that both children and adults can get something out of. Even as a kid I understood a lot of the nuance regarding Bob's and Helen's Character arcs but of course not completely until i reached adulthood.

  • @mannaandmonsters
    @mannaandmonsters 20 днів тому +3

    The Vinland Saga music, you do not miss!

  • @JacobDeem13
    @JacobDeem13 14 днів тому

    Bob's journey throughout the movie is why Mr. Incredible is one of my favorite superheroes of all time. He can relive the glory days when he finally lets his family be a part of that adventure. As he said himself, his family is his greatest adventure. Great video man!

  • @oozyanthony
    @oozyanthony 15 днів тому +1

    This truly is a storyline that is underrated.

  • @kimaniantony6423
    @kimaniantony6423 15 днів тому

    It's wholesome to hear you distill the lessons, actions and thoughts of these characters. I never knew I could learn so much from these video essays. Could you consider Wreck it Ralph next. I think it has incredible lessons I've never heard articulated.

  • @camerongreenwoodcrampakacgc.
    @camerongreenwoodcrampakacgc. 17 днів тому +2

    Great video Master Samwise.
    This is your best video by far.
    By the way....
    The Incredibles is my favourite movie of all time.
    Along with The Shawshank Redemption.
    Two of the best films ever made.

  • @knutolavbjrgaas1069
    @knutolavbjrgaas1069 18 днів тому +4

    Strength before weakness

    • @knutolavbjrgaas1069
      @knutolavbjrgaas1069 18 днів тому +1

      Commented before finishing the vid*

    • @knutolavbjrgaas1069
      @knutolavbjrgaas1069 18 днів тому +1

      Having finished the video i would like to amend my first comment:
      Journey before destination.

  • @deandredukes95
    @deandredukes95 20 днів тому +2

    So insightful!

  • @barbarabaker1457
    @barbarabaker1457 19 днів тому +1

    Man, I love your channel. Also great movie. I even like watching the commentaries. And when the animators needed strength they said: "To the Spaniards!" If you know, you know.

  • @VirtusH
    @VirtusH 13 днів тому +1

    The God of War music in the background... just perfect.

  • @chestnut1064
    @chestnut1064 20 днів тому +5

    I have been thinking about how great a leader Gandalf is, dare risks to give counsel to other characters. And at time, all follow him willingly. What about a video about it..?

    • @master_samwise
      @master_samwise  19 днів тому +2

      All in good time. There are many characters from LotR I have yet to cover, and Gandalf is absolutely on that list.

  • @v3loc1ty16
    @v3loc1ty16 20 днів тому +9

    I love how through this video you’ve gotten most of the way towards the knights radiants first ideal:

    Life before death
    Strength before weakness
    Journey before destination”
    -The Stormlight Archive Series, Brandon Sanderson

    • @matityaloran9157
      @matityaloran9157 19 днів тому +3

      He also touched upon the second Windrunner Ideal “I will protect those who cannot protect themselves”.

  • @lisaroper421
    @lisaroper421 19 днів тому +1

    Love it! A great take on a great movie!

  • @andreasbackstrom7703
    @andreasbackstrom7703 19 днів тому +2

    What a great video🤩

  • @MatthewChovanec-UNT
    @MatthewChovanec-UNT 8 днів тому +1

    This video made me cry

  • @SoFly2H2D
    @SoFly2H2D 8 днів тому

    I've said those exact words, out loud, during a pivotal moment in my last relationship. This was a wonderful synopsis on a wonderful movie!

  • @michaelman957
    @michaelman957 19 днів тому +1

    I needed this today. Men need lessons like this.

  • @RomaroBrandon
    @RomaroBrandon 3 дні тому +1

    One of my two favorite Pixar movies as well as my number one favorite movie of all time.

  • @RichardEarlLonsbury
    @RichardEarlLonsbury 5 днів тому

    As a Men’s Coach, I can’t begin to tell you how much I love and champion your perspective on masculinity.
    I share your videos with my clients and tell them it’s MANDATORY to watch the Iroh vid lol
    Keep doing you, brotha.

  • @Zomb524
    @Zomb524 4 дні тому +1

    So you definitely read stormlight archives right? Life before death, Strength before weakness? Great video!

  • @blackstar_1069
    @blackstar_1069 15 днів тому

    Beautiful video master samwise

  • @FrankandRaul
    @FrankandRaul 17 днів тому +2

    I'm just glad that someone is finally giving Bob the benefit of the doubt, and not just calling him a misogynist liar ruled by pride. He's got so much depth to him.

    • @master_samwise
      @master_samwise  16 днів тому +3

      He definitely has pride. And I was perhaps a bit too generous and overstated his altruism. He wants to be a hero because he loves being a hero. No doubt he loves being a hero because he loves helping people, but that does get a bit lost in the early part of his arc. Which is great! Because he gets to rediscover it in a new way with his wife/family.

    • @FrankandRaul
      @FrankandRaul 16 днів тому +1

      Oh absolutely, he's flawed. But I don't see enough people empathize with him, so I appreciate you doing so.​@@master_samwise

  • @ThalisBrow
    @ThalisBrow 6 годин тому

    I never cared about too much about being weak until she said it... Now I just want be stronger and stronger

  • @adamwhitney9996
    @adamwhitney9996 19 днів тому +1

    Incredible video as usual Samwise, it is great to see your passion as you deep dive into this character. I am by no means a father yet, but I know my own parents have enjoyed the characters of Mr and Mrs Incredible (which is the case for most parents), as they relate to them overcoming the challenges of parenting and adulthood as a team who care, trust, and sacrifice for each other.
    On a side note, you used a few clips from Vinland saga, are you hinting at a Vinland video essay in the future👀 Would love to hear your opinion on the show.

    • @master_samwise
      @master_samwise  19 днів тому +2

      I'm about halfway through season 2 of Vinland Saga. I have lots of thoughts and will absolutely be doing a video.

  • @LcplAnimeGuy
    @LcplAnimeGuy 4 дні тому

    I would REALLY REALLY love if you did a video on Desmond Doss from Hacksaw ridge. Great video on the Incredibles I liked that movie growing up. And it really captured the life of the average American family well given the director of the first movie had similar situations with his own family that Bob struggled with

  • @aj5332
    @aj5332 День тому

    I love how GOW music is so well played