they have the hexagon storm . Also have you ever been to saturn, you wouldn't no exactly what it looks like for photos right.... yeah they are unclear as fuck. It is a good visual
@@macavar5632 Wow, you're an idiot. Who cares about accuracy or science. Also the word is "know" not "no" but I'm glad you thought it was a good visual, it seems it was aimed directly at your demographic.
The "Knife" that he pulled in episode 2. It is a Drywall knife with a handle painted black- literally has no use as a tool with the exception of cutting holes in drywall. The ship certainly has no drywall on it.
Nononono it's a 0.0000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000001% chance.
@@scifi_shop You're looking at something like 0.000003% chance to even hit anything if you're going through a solar system comparable to ours. That doesn't even count all the orders of magnitude of empty space between solar systems. If you do you can add another 8 zeros. We're currently doing just that by the way, our solar system is moving around in empty space and at any moment we could encounter a black hole or a rogue planet. It never happens, not because we're lucky, but because it's unlikely.
2:09, "There's a load of dark matter in the way." The writers obviously don't know anything about dark matter. Dark matter is invisible to all wavelengths, so there's no way it can possibly block your view. Complaining about there being too much dark matter in the way of your spaceship is like complaining there's too much air in the way of your airplane.
@Trenton McKenzie this fanfic is far from a real sci-fi, too many of the science aspect is purely bullshit. like seriously, someone could've google'd what dark matter is. not to mention the fact that the crew is run by shitty people. at best, this show is unintentional comedy, gave me a few laugh.
@@phantomkitten73 One time I was in orbit of giant's deep and one of the tornadoes flung an island at me Outer wilds is a better horror game then actual horror games
Theorists: “The math shows us that there should be much more matter in the universe, but most of it is unaccounted for. We’ll call this “dark matter” since we don’t know what it is and can’t see or detect it.” This show: “Look, a bunch of dark matter! It’s so dark!”
The sad part is that i would 100% watch a satirical drama show or movie where all the best scientists are dead and psuedo-scientists are the only ones left to save humanity. Set dead serious in tone but having none of them understand complex scientific theories would be amazing
That's the only moment in the series (Of which I managed a whole four episodes) that I liked. A bit of classic body-horror work. Didn't fit in at all with the rest of the episode or the series, writing was awful, but... if you're going to rip off the iconic scene from Alien, that's the way to rip it off.
right!!! lolol For me it was the permanent bitch face they made starbuck wear after she lost TOO much weight and playyed an unlikeable bitch that bangs AI and feels guilty...sigh..
The plot would be better if the first episode actually had the original crew mess everything up in an unclear method and then the show follows the replacement crew as they wake up to a disaster of a ship with almost every old crew member dead. This could lead to them trying to figure out what happened with the only surviving member of the old crew being unable to say or recall what happened but obviously being traumatized.
16:53 "It was in such a low orbit I couldn't detect it" Meanwhile, in our non-Type II civilization: "Huh, this tiny little star a hundred light years away is wobbling in a weird way. It must have exactly three planets orbiting it."
Even better, we detect the wobble through the nearly infinitesimal shift in emitted frequencies caused by the doppler effect imparted through the wobble. The AI is just incompetent and doesn't want to admit it.
He's literally saying "it was too close I couldn't detect it"... Jesus. Apart from a few of the last episodes of season two, nothing saves S1, nothing. All episodes are moronic beyond belief, although I must admit one could feel a slight progression towards them getting fractionally better with each episode, though not by a lot and probably only after episode 4 (apart from 8, which, for me, was the worst one in the whole show).
She really went with “He was a threat so I killed him” over the more accurate and less psychopathic sounding “The dude tried to murder me with a knife so I had to kick him into the ball of electricity in self defense”
I'm pretty sure that even a psychopath would say "he came at me with a knife so I defended myself". Just because a person lacks empathy, it doesn't mean their ability to convey relevant information is impaired or that they're stupid enough to make it sound like they outright murdered someone who didn't do anything to deserve it.
@@wolf1066 If anything, a psychopath would probably make themselves seem more like the victim to manipulate the other members of the crew into taking their side.
@@wolf1066 True, but my point was that instead of giving a true and completely justified reason for what she did, she chose to make herself look like she had absolutely no remorse and just killed him because she thought he was bad for the team.
@@geekgirl_luv4262 Not sure if the script writers were desperately trying to contrive ways of introducing mistrust/tension between her and the crew or they just thought it sounded "edgy". Either way, whoever wrote that steaming pile should be laughed out of town.
I have never heard of this show and had no intentions to watch it, but you can bet your bucket I watched this whole hour-long video explaining why it sucks.
So you're ahead of me in life by 1 hour because I am watching this video right now, which is good, but I actally watched the 1st episode so I already lost.
This whole show is just like a game in DND where the DM creates problems that sound interesting on paper to someone who only passed 8th grade but doesn't want anyone to die so saves them regardless of how poorly they solve the issues. Expect for that one guy who was kicked from the game because the DM didn't like him derailing his well crafted story (the guy who took the 11% chance of death).
And yet this show is still written better than half the trash we now get because of an abundance of nepotism. I get that you want to hop on the hate train but there are much more deserving targets, but I guess you gotta go where you can get with the other sheep.
@thomgizziz regardless of there being shows worse then this, this still deserves every criticism it gets, it's just really shit writing, and teenagers could write better then the mentally handicapped people who wrote this and the ones watching this type of shit are the sheep lol
But of course the D&D game is fun because you're hanging around with your friends and laughing about the time two players rolled nat 1s on their perception rolls and missed a moon.
90% of space shows forget that all astronauts also go through intense psicological evaluations and training, they wouldnt go crazy or be so aggressive towards eachother, they are picked specifically because they are people who can be calm and collected in difficuly situations
i thought that also and then I remember they were in a rush weren’t they? No time for cherry picking and the artifact landing was at that time a potential alien invasion so people were rushed and everybody probably went nuts in the face of a higher intelligent being who could possibly obliterate the entire earth. Even if they were trained to deal with potential threat situations with aliens, they weren’t particularly trained for this type of alien, this powerful and calculating. Basically imagination can run wild for some people and they didn’t have an idea on the scale of the aliens’ capabilities so combined with fear of death that made them take irrational decisions and actions.
It's a movie for out entertainment with fit woman. I'm sure it would be less entertaining if boring people crew the ship. It's not meant to be realistic
This show is trash don't get me wrong. But to say a show about real astronauts being professional would somehow be better is insane... Watching a real life astronaut would be boring af... That's not why this show is trash...
@@opticalcanine exactly why plots about well trained astronautes are all ass, if you need people in space making dumb decisions or acting erratically there are other ways to do it, example, high life with robert pattinson, lotta people doing dumb shit in space, still an amazing movie
@@100Jim Saying that it would be less entertaining if the show portrayed "boring" people is a matter of opinion. I personally think that it'd be much more interesting to follow a group of realistically written professionals dealing with these crazy situations. The problem is that it's much harder to write great realistic characters, than it is to write cheap characters, who can freely break any set of rules for the sake of entertainment. I wouldn't even have a problem with this, if the show went balls to the walls with the "cheap entertainment". I only have a problem with it when shows like these try to ride the middle. I mean why try to feed us "believable" science, when you're clearly throwing that science out of the window for the sake of enterainment right after? It's the worst of both worlds.
Just pointing this out, but they find crystallized oxygen on a planet with an atmospheric temperature of -5 degrees Celsius. If oxygen froze at that temperature, then most of the world wouldn't be able to breathe during the winter. It is something so basic that they still messed up. Also, I would like to point out that the atmospheric pressure of the planet is exactly the same as Earth, which for a planet with a climate that different would be nigh impossible. Also, can we talk about how the SPACESHIP HAS HEADLIGHT???
waaait a minute, dark matter isn't like, a thing that can obstruct your vision (hell, the whole point is that dark matter is invisible but does influnce the movement of the universe), it's the stuff that roughly 85% of the known universe is made. It's the equivalent of saying "there is a whole bunch of wind over there that i can't see trough" so right off the bat the show is being unbelievable stupid
Also dark matter is transparent so their is no reason why it would obscure your vision It would be like saying dont point that water gun at me you could blind me
What even MORE fucked up is that from a pure common sense/writing perpective, all they had to do to fix it was throw in a SINGLE line explaining that the dark matter cloud will confuse or temporarily reduce accuracy of their sensors or something. that would at least sound more plausible/sciencey. They couldnt send any of this past a person with a 8th grade science education ffs?
If we're going into scientific inaccuracies, I would argue that dying in space would be *infinitely* preferable to their inevitable deaths from acute radiation poisoning from the gamma rays that they were soaking in
I have counted exactly one scientifically accurate part of this show, which is that, assuming the ship achieves faster-than-light travel with wormholes, it *would* actually require exotic matter (matter with negative gravitational effects) to prevent the wormhole from collapsing in the centre (I mean, in the show it refers to the exotic matter as "fuel", but it still gets a half point) Edit: oh, and the screens being tablets glued to the wall is pretty accurate. Engineers love to cut corners, why build tons of small, high Res displays when some kid in a Chinese sweatshop has already fine it for you?
Wouldn’t it have been so much cooler if the “surprise moon” was a ticking clock from the beginning? Like if one of the characters said something like “a massive asteroid knocked the moon out of its orbit, it’ll collide with the planet and kill everything on it in [insert time limit] but we have to risk it because it’s the only planet we can reach on our oxygen supplies.” Then you could have the danger at the end be that they ran out of time and the moon is about to crash. I feel like that was a massive missed opportunity
Better: moons don't crash, they crumble before they can reach the planet, buuut, the planet has unstable moons that will crash in (time) and the disasters that precede the collision get worse and worse and at the end they gotta escape a tsunami and they see the planet getting burned by the debris
That's not actually any more likely than them just not detecting the moon at all, it's basically a diabolus ex machina, like what arr the odds it would happen the exact time they arrive
Sometimes when I walk, I like to imagine it's not me who's moving but instead I'm in place and I'm just rotating the earth with my feet. Kinda makes me feel dizzy after a while.
Okay, I understand the problems with its backstory, but Implausible Space Virus is by far the most relatable character in the show. All it wanted was to kill the entire crew of the Salvare. Honestly I wasn't expecting this from Another Life: A sympathetic hero you are really rooting for, but that tragically fails to achieve its goals. Powerful stuff.
I love this amazing story, I also sympathize with the bug thing that chewed through the wires, he sacrificed his life to stop these insane people. Same with Ian, he just wanted to kill the crew. Those poor heroes, but it's really bold of them following the villains and killing off almost every hero that tries to stop them.
exactly and its evident from the first 15 minutes of the show, instantly dropped it after Ep 1, too much suspension of disbelief that a bunch of high school kids are allowed to commandeer a space expedition. Preferred how they portrayed the importance of stable mental health in Ad Astra and seeing the lack of if it in Another Life just for some half ass drama is frustrating to watch
I llike how they dress like they are attending a party (some of the dresses the woman were are literaly straight out of a new years eve party or a freaking oscars gala). I mean no space suits or any formal uniforms in sight. They are on the most important mission in humanitys history - To literally save the human race. They are presumably on some kind of military or exploratory vesel build by some kind of goverment organization or stright up the military. it's not like they are doing some odd jobs here and there in space like the freaking Serenity Crew. And to add to that we have a captain who had to kill her previous crew because of some kind of on board accident. You know what woul prevent that ? i dont know - maybe if they were wearing some kind of suits witch would enable them to quicly put their helmets on ? or just to enable them to go into full space suits quick?
@@ducanhluong918totally agree. I know I set the bar pretty low when it comes to suspending disbelief. I mean I’m the kind of guy who will zone out to a show at the end of a long day and even I was calling BS on so many things on this show.
THANK YOU shit it looks so ugly. Everything is either desaturated plain puke yellow or oversaturated dark and bright blue in a way it's nearly impossible to make up what's going on on screen. It looks like the color grading was made in a shitty, poorly calibrated, old monitor.
I like Jay's videos but I'm halfway through and it's hard to watch even with his commentary. It almost comes off as a parody of science fiction, maybe this show is actually genius and we're all the stooges here
Never mind that our entire system of color representation is based on the red/green/blue cone cells of the human retina. So these aliens happened to evolve the same color perception mechanism as humans AND invented the same system for transcribing those color values into binary.
I'm pretty sure the bit where the bad consequence of being hit with the deadly radiation was they became sterile is that the writers misunderstood the medical term "sterilize" in the context.
Radiation does make people sterile, the more often a given cell duplicates the more vulnerable it is to being damaged by radiation (as far as i understand the dna of a cell is especially vulnerable during mitosis), and in order to create sufficient numbers of sperm cells and egg cells those cells duplicate a lot.
Radiation therapy for cancer, if it's down around there, sterilizes men. The testes are pretty sensitive to that. Not sure if the rads are gamma or some type of particle but I suspect it is gamma because proton is new for therapy, alpha/beta doesn't penetrate, and neutrons would leave your bones radioactive.
@@tristan7216 Radiation in such a therapy is given in small, controlled and targeted doses. Such an application is not relevant to the "being whole-body blasted by a star emitting gamma radiation" scenario. That sort of thing would sterilize, sure - in the sense that it kills everything that's exposed to it.
Maybe they are trying to mimic Wes Anderson... a bit of square staging of scene shots and yuppies everywhere will think the bad plot holes are really just witty meta humor.
@@Fridaey13txhOktober It's more like a SF show for soccer moms. I watched because I'd rather watch a bad hard science fiction show that a good show set in the middle ages (like Game of Thrones). But it's got all the hallmarks of a women's show: a middle aged woman involved in love triangle, the sassy black girl as her friend, the blatantly gay character in the background...
This show chucking around the terms “light-speed” and “light year”. If you’re travelling at the speed of light it’s going to take you a year to travel a LIGHT YEAR
@Kevin Z no it wouldn't, a light-year is the distance light travels in a year, so anything travelling at the speed of light would cover the same distance in the same amount of time as light. Unless you are talking about some weird law of physics where someone travelling at the speed of light experiences time differently than someone who isn't
@@thomasw7908This is why you can't accelerate matter to the speed of light "c", because closer the speed of matter to the "c" the more energy it takes to accelerate, so it takes more energy than there are in a universe to accelerate a single gramm to "c". Also matter is accelerated to "c" it stops experience time at all (ZA WARUDO).
the scene where the girls nervous system fell out is so blasphemous to me just because: a) A character gets into medical trouble after an encounter on an alien planet. b) After an incubation period, their symptoms seemingly dissipate. c) The crew celebrates by sitting down to a nice cozy dinner, d) Which is interrupted by something bursting from the afflicted crew members body. .....So they just straight up shamelessly ripped off alien with none of the incredible writing or suspense??
Not to mention the wildly varying symptoms when they all supposedly got the same thing, and the fact that the lady was just fine right up until her spine burst out (which would not happen, btw)... that whole thing was just stupid. This whole show is just stupid.
Incredible writing? Alien is fucking overrated and the writing is crap. The characters act like completely unbelievable idiots and the entire movie is carried by nothing but atmosphere, acting and special effects. The actual story falls to pieces under the slightest touch of logical scrutiny. Alien is a _guilty pleasure_ that's shared by so many people that it's become commonly accepted as "good". Don't get me wrong, I enjoyed it too, but its flaws are too grave and too numerous for it to be the masterpiece it's so widely regarded as.
The scenes of Sasha entering the artifact and hallucinating discussions with himself are shamelessly plagiarized from Michael Crichton's _Sphere,_ while the scenes of the crew yukking it up after eating the flowers could have been ripped right out of _The Lord of the Rings._
@@RodrigoTechador tbh at first, the girl's spine bursting out was sorta disturbing...until I realized that this is a show where the writers can't think of anything original.
Was just reading an article that said, "The planet is located only 3 million miles from its star. In astronomical terms, that's like standing close enough to another person for your nose hairs to get tangled up." And of course immediately thought of "wE cOuLd HiT a PlAnEt"
Am I the only one bothered by the fact that technology on Earth seems like today, despite it being at least a hundred years into the future on the ship?
This show has a lot of problems, so many that you could probably catalog them like pieces in a museum, so no. I think with all the issues with the show, that just wasn't one of the first things that most people noticed.
You know, I'm a writer myself, and I use a lot of nicknames for explaining bad writing tropes to my friends. I think "Surprise Moon" is going to be my nickname for a sudden unexplained obstacle when the writer couldn't write conflict smoothly lol
@@harukasatou1359 you're certainly pretty angry about that scenario that you invented out of nowhere. You're like a fully self-powered outrage machine.
one little thing i can give the show: as a body horror artist, the nervous system exiting a person's body intact and writhing on the floor is a pretty creepy idea and visual. it feels unearned though. generally this whole show seems like cool ideas stapled together haphazardly. not only do they not fit together, but they make no sense and could only work in a fantasy scifi. unfortunately they present it like a soft scifi, going into way to much detail about things they do not understand at all. seriously, who the hell let them get all the way through production without changing the depiction of dark matter as a *big poofy cloud?*
A body horror artist, huh? I sincerely hope to hell you do it as a hobby. I like body horror, but I draw the fucking LINE at fetishization. People these days are so fucked in the head, they'll fap to anything. Literally anything. It grinds my fucking gears.
also, they specified "nervous system". The nervous system is made of thin tendrils, not a mushy mass (google image "human nervous system" to see one after extraction from a cadaver). Also, there are no muscles (because again, they specified nervous system, not muscle system), so it can't move.
@@LilHoss4k Ah yes that fixes everything thank you, I'm gonna go write my fanfic where they find out they were exactly 180 degrees wrong about gravity the whole time and planets just fling everybody into space.
I mean, it is possible that an airborne virus WOULD affect the nervous system, it WOULD be unpredictable, and the symptoms shown (spasms, blindness, personality "shifts") ARE possible symptoms of neuron/nerve damage. Other fun plausible symptoms include: Sudden and intense constipation. Inability to recall short-term information. Slurred speech. (15:54) Impulsive and irrational decision-making. A burning feeling that never goes away. Sexual dysfunction. Loss of hearing. And a rare condition called urinary urge incontinence where you basically completely lose the ability to control your bladder. These are all medically possible. Your nervous system fuckin FALLIING OUT, however, is not.
"you are a scientist, in charge of other scientists, all trying to communicate with an alien artifact that landed on earth 6 months ago." "yes, thank you my wife who I met in chicago 20 years ago and have since been happily married to, who's favourite food is blueberry waffles"
Yeah, that cloudy shit is a nebula, not dark matter. Dark matter is the funky stuff that’s somewhere in the universe that is making the gravity different to what we think it should be doing. Dark matter could be anything, to a really big clump of dirt, to some type of undiscovered type of gravitational contributer, to a giant invisible space squid
@@noizepusher7594 I need a show that represents dark matter as a giant invisible space squid. If they're going to screw with science this badly, then why not add a space squid?
@@atree4627 The ending to the show Nightflyers (which I only just learned was made by George RR Martin) kind of has something like this. Decent show, completely forgot the name of it though but I liked it enough at the time, and it's only a small season.
51:33 “I’ll never be in the DSM” Um, what? How would finding a cure for depression get you in the DSM? The DSM doesn’t include treatments for disorders; it is purely descriptive. It’s a tool for diagnosis. It does not include a list of treatments and who discovered them.
Also, how does one "get into the DSM" anyway? Even if one were a psychologist who categorizes a new disorder, then it doesn't say "Ultra-depressive weeb disorder, discovered by Jimmy Neuron PhD"
Damn you didn't even touch on how one episode has "you're all sterilized now" be the only consequence of the gamma radiation and then having an accidental pregnancy be a plot a few episodes later
> "This show doesn't have plotholes, it is plotholes" "Filling... in.. the gaps..." - "It's not about what is in the plot, it's about what's not in the plot." "Exactly"
This is a mission to save humanity! Let's send the most mentally unstable people we can find with zero discipline and all with completely different views on almost every topic.
Its just like in this other show, Away. Its not just about astronauts going to Mars, no its about a strong mother, which spends the entire mission preparation on the moon at the phone, arguing with her sick husbands doctors and theres a child with down syndrome which has a hard life but everyone is nice to her and she manages to go to highschool like a normal child. The entire mission team consists of mentally unstable egotists who try to cut each others throats and the mission basically almost fails because one solar panel needs to be manually deployed. Theres gotta be some kind of guidelines they keep following there in order to mess it up that badly. It seems for netflix its really important to feed us unplausibly bad social drama, to depict how people should (not) interact with each other or something. Oh and theres some space stuff too.
I worked on this show (S1) and thought it was some of the most brainless, easy cash i ever made. I'm only halfway through your review and i've been laughing my ass off the whole time. I don't regret working on this show, my only regret is having told my parents (post-production) the name of the show i had been working on over the last few months - my mum then told me she really enjoyed the show and asked if there would be another season coming out, 🤣💀
I mean, if I worked on a show that was just 10 hour long episodes of a brick wall and nothing else, my mom would say she loved it as well. Maybe your mom just loves that you worked on the show, and that makes all the negatives easy to overlook.
It's worth mentioning RGB is based on how the human eye perceives light. That's the whole reason it's based on the colors red, green, and blue in the first place. There's absolutely no reason aliens would use any sort of similar scale.
@@bl4cksp1d3r This message says in binary, 111111111 111111111 111111111 ! it makes no sense the gaps would just all have hte same length unrelated to binary bfhgdgfh at the very least hex is basically just rgb but the 255s are represented in base 16, so if you vconvert rgb and hex to binary I'm pretty sure they'd be the same but one had spaces
You cant take oxygen out of the atmosphere idiot, thw oxygen in thr cave is frozen and formed into a crystal so its kinda easier to mine it than just to take it from the atmosphere
@@Arthemis20 But having 10% oxygen in the atmosphere doesn't mean there's any in the ground. How did they know it was in the ground? Maybe the AI but then why say there's 10% in the atmosphere and not say anything about the ground if the oxygen in the atmosphere is irrelevant.
Only reason i watched the I-land is because I was like "no way this is a matrix type thing, that would be so damn stupid...aw, damn, it totally is that" Then i was like, "no way is this I-land a form of punishment for criminals... Aw, shit, it is" Then i was like "no way is this going to be all plot twisty and it turns out this main character is actually not guilty of murdering her mother because that's too obvio- oh holy shit, who wrote this?!?" Then i was like, "they better not do that whole plot-twist-within-a-plot-twist-thing and it turns out the main character is actually super old-SONOFABITCH!"
I like how the whole crew acts like my friends playing a new multiplayer game, no one is sure how the maps works, how the scanners work,what the ship can withstand, how to properly plan routes, the AI is desperately trying to get everyone to do the right thing for the mission to continue while we all just try random shit that damages the ship and destroys import equipment while we try to figure out how anything works. Difference is when we blow up we can restart the mission.
If this crew is meant to be made up of all the best scientists or whatever, why does it look like it's made up entirely of 20-25 year old instagrammers in permanent makeup and hair product?
STEM was deemed too cis-hetero-patriarchal and banned, so everyone is actually a liberal arts student with a major in something inane like cultural studies, photography, gender-reassignment, slam poetry, or ukelele (every other instrument was too hard to learn or not soothing enough for their safe spaces...)
@@anjarose6074 I don't think the implication was that they looked nice, I mean, at a certain point makeup and product make you look trashy, like either a really crappy emo or one of those girls whose legs are in different states 24/7...
To add to the "We might hit a planet" part of this review, aside from the space between planets there is also the space ABOVE and BELOW the planets. Unbeknownst to the creators of this show, unlike the graphs of the solar system you saw in school, planetary systems in fact reside within three dimensional space.
Yeah also planets are, in comparison, packed really really tight together in solar systems, the space between solar systems is so empty that you won't even find atoms there.
@@asmahasmalaria8596 it's comparable to the mistake most media makes about planet rings. They make them look like they're densely packed with rocks, but in reality, the rocks within planet rings are miiiiiiles apart.
The "infrasound" thing really bothers me for several reasons that are purely based on physical implementation. For one, pigeons and elephants can PERCEIVE infrasound, but they don't commonly USE it to communicate in a meaningful way. So playing pigeon noises wouldn't matter because those noises wouldn't be "in infrasound" - the fact we can hear the pigeon noises literally means they AREN'T substantially in an audible range outside our own hearing. Further, the SPEAKERS playing the sounds are probably not tuned to such a range because almost no speakers ever made would be in a range *people can't hear* - they're speakers, the *point is to hear them*. Now, headphones commonly do include pretty wide ranges beyond what's "commonly" distinct and audible, notably a lot of "bass heavy" headphones will go down to 5Hz, but the purpose of that is the vibration it creates, which we can FEEL. The speakers shown in the show are isolated in a way that eliminates that reverberation - meaning even IF there's a meaningful amount of sub-20Hz frequency in the recording (there isn't), it's dying in the air and not in any way being actually transferred to the alien object. They brought up whales - whales can use extremely low (not infrasound, still) frequencies to communicate because they're in saltwater, a phenomenal carrier of "waveform" energy like sound, color (whole different rant about how colors die in water, fascinating though), electricity, etc. But stuff like that dies in clear dry air quickly. So playing these sounds on normal speakers in the regular clear air means that all the frequencies he's trying to use are dying about an inch from the speakers. The sounds are literally NOT REACHING THE ARTEFACT, they legitimately can't be, by the nature of how sound and physics works. The other half that's nonsense is the idea that a symphony can be "dropped to 1Hz" and "turned into infrasound" - notes are literally, not metaphorically, I mean literally determined by their Hz. For example, let's say Beethoven's Fifth starts with the notes "G-G-G-F" - the lowest frequency those can literally possibly be are "24.5Hz-24.5Hz-24.5Hz-21.83Hz" and if you played it any lower, it would be literally different notes and therefore it would NOT be Beethoven's Symphony No. 5 anymore. It would possibly not even be recognizable by aliens as TRYING to be that song. And, you'll notice, the four most distinct notes to possibly ever open a song, which anyone anywhere would recognize, can at their LOWEST only be played ABOVE 20Hz. So... NOT infrasound. Technically, every note on an octave is half the frequency of the equivalent note one octave up. So like, 24.5Hz is G0 and G1 would be 49Hz, G2 would be 98Hz, etc. So, by the logic, you *could* drop further octaves to something below 0, say maybe -4. In which case, G(negative four) would be 1.53125Hz - so saying "drop it to 1Hertz" would still be literal nonsense but would be an acceptable instruction to someone who knew what he actually meant by it. HOWEVER... To try to play MUSIC at that level would be impossible without playing it so slowly as to make it not music anymore - it would basically sound like playing four kick drums in a row, just four thumps and the fourth would not even sound lower like it's supposed to. The difference between playing "Beethoven's Fifth" and playing just literally random notes would be, like, nothing. The only possible throughline for that would be if we had played those exact notes at that exact frequency into space *in the first place*... and in THAT situation it would have been silly and pointless to play literally any other rendition at first. Even setting aside the pigeon noises thing, if we played Beethoven's Fifth the normal way, there's no reason to think that playing it any other way would get a response motivated by "familiarity". If they initially had played it "in infrasound" or whatever, there would be no reason to start playing it *normally* and then "drop it down to 1Hz" - they'd have just played the literal exact same audio file they broadcast initially. Because again, why would the aliens "RECOGNIZE" different audio? You play the audio they would recognize, not NEW audio, not different pitches, not birds and elephants. And no one would hear or feel it happen either way because the speakers can't play sounds that low and/or they're isolated in the air instead of sitting on the ground like a SUBWOOFER NEEDS TO. It's just such a complete, across-the-board misunderstanding of both advanced and basic physical and conceptual tenets of sound and human technology. Every aspect and combination of those words, all incorrect, all at once. It's literally ALL wrong and it's crazy that the writers on a *science fiction show* all just went with it, like they assumed that either the audience of a sci-fi show wouldn't care about the science - OR - the audience of a sci-fi show wouldn't know even the most basic amount about *an extremely common hobby* like, I dunno, let's say *music and audio quality*. Anyone who's ever mixed a song or a video would hear that scene and just want to vomit eeeeeverywhere. So basically Jay is a hero for sitting through that and then continuing.
Wow, this was really informative. The first part about pigeons was really intuitive and I immediately thought "I can hear pigeons normally." I'm not a musician, or an audiophile, so the rest was new to me. But then again, the second part is really intuitive. If the original broadcast was normal, then either they wouldn't recognize the an altered version of it (because they heard the original version and would recognize that), or would somehow hear the original version in an altered context already (because they magically just interpret regular music as some infrasound nonsense). So, really, the writers failed in unimaginable ways. No matter which way you interpret their meaning, they are wrong. That's a really low bar to hit: being wrong in every possible scenario. It's actually kinda impressive.
I just want to applaud your dedication to pointing out the multiple levels of stupidity in such detail to this one small moment of the show. That was honestly quite impressive. I give you a slow clap at 1 Hz / sec. 😉
Many DAWs are pretty good at pitch shifting while maintaining tempo. Works/sounds better when going down down and I always do it with my practice songs, so I don't have to change tuning. It's never going to sound perfectly 'clean', but the song would be recognisable, assuming we can perceive such low frequencies.
A very dense asteroid field would indeed be dangerous, because even a small particle hits extremely hard at light speed. But most of space is still space.
Imagine if, a few minutes into the first episode of the second season, someone yelled "Cut!," all the characters relaxed, and the camera moved out to show that they were on a set. The rest of the season is actually about a group of people making a really bad scifi show. The viewer can actually follow along with the plot of the show within the show, but only by piecing together snippets from the writing room, or the beginnings or ends of shots, or the actors complaining about the stupid plot points. But the real story is in the mishaps and relationships of the people making it. It already got a second season though, and I just don't think it would fly for the third season. Sigh.
I was about to write a joke where instead of someones nervous system falling out it would be something more stupid falling out. Yet i honestly cant think of something worse than someones nervous system...
They want to make all these space shows about ragtag rebels and renegades, and half the plot conflicts come from the characters going at each other over simple things... Remember in old Star Trek and Star Gate when the explorers were a highly trained team of disciplined people who worked together and *gasp* followed orders?
Well said. That a team formed for such an important, crucial mission would be made up of these petty and incompetent people makes absolutely no sense to me.
Ethan Moon if you want to make a story on a ship about a ragtag bunch of misfits, don’t have them tasked with something professional or even important. Just give them some fools errand so there’s a reason they let a bunch of idiots on board like in MTMTE
that would be cute & sweet, seeing how far can children expand their creativity in writing. maybe some kid would write about awesome the future would become, with enthusiastic optimism. this Netflix original is a fanfic with uninteresting executions without any impactful character development, alongside dead-end plot points & plotholes scattered about.
I kept waking up and falling back asleep while I was listening to the plot hole video(not because it’s bad, it was just very early in the morning when I put it on and I was still in that stage of waking up), and I didn’t realize a new one started playing so now that I’m fully awake I was laying here listening to this for so long trying to relate it to stuff from the plot hole video, waiting for it to cut back to the dude talking about plot contrivances.
Also, dark matter is literally invisible, and, only way to detect it is to measure gravitational lensing of a massive object, like a galaxy, so their vision actually would be perfect.
Not to mention that dark matter is the reason for matter clustering in certain areas so they would have been traveling through dark matter even before they left Earth.
Well heres the thing buddy. Dark matter is a theory, there is no evidence that it is real. Please, tell me that you know that its a theory and not ever been observed or shown to exist. Please, let me know you are sane. Scientists say it must exist because they cant explain a whole bunch of things so they slap "dark matter" on to that great unknown, please, let me know you are sane. It is a hypothetical explanation, again, never been shown to exist.
Imagine somehow ending up on the writing team for this show and somebody says "okay, for this next scene we're gonna do a homage to the Ash/chestburster scene from Alien, but instead of an alien the character's nervous system falls out".
I’m pretty sure “what if we copied this thing from this other iconic sci-fi story but made it dumb” is how 90% of the conversations in the writers room went
Well, the mission is supposed to last 6 months, it is a mission to a distant star... But the nearest star to earth is 4.22 light years away, and they pass through more than one solar system... So... What.
The thing is this was before their sleep tubes were broken, so the plan would be that they would spend most of the journey in cryo sleep so that excuse wouldn't work either
I'm so glad you included the "one hertz per second" thing. That was the moment I knew I wouldn't make it to episode 2. It was borderline irrational how pissed off I got when I heard that line. Anyway, I was still slightly curious to know how the story (such as it is) evolved, so I read the summaries on Wikipedia and found your vid. Thanks so much for doing this!!
I don't think you were borderline irrational. I can't tell you how mad I get when someone blatantly insults my intelligence, which is basically what those well- compensated idiots who couldn't be bothered to research what they were writing did. Now, me, I am kind of a blob head so they could have said hertz all day and I wouldn't have known. But I would have thought they were at least correct in fundamentals, I should know better. Anyway, fight the good fight. As long as people are mad over things like this, there's hope.
Nope not irrational at all, for me its when people say dogs have backwards knees and I find myself saying frequently that they have the same anatomy we would have if we walked on our tiptoes. That's one thing I get angry about lol
Their binge- watching shit broke their back too. (Basically netflix holds back episodes to release half the season in one one go so people can "binge watch" the episodes instead of just releasing episode by episode)
Wait what? Almost never (outside of some sitcoms) are seasons produced episode by episode nowadays. It is just cheaper that way. The ones holding episodes back are the ones that give you one episode a week. Also: Most shows that do that i just forget and may stumble across later again to watch it at my pace. episodic releases can just die for all i care.
@@florianh.6256 I think it's more associated with people being able to cancel subscriptions when they can watch all the good stuff within one month and then just wait a year and do it again. Weekly releases of episodes would usually require a subscription going at least 3-4 months, during which a new show could start that you enjoy and thus keep you subscribed after your first shows season has ended. All the money of production for multiple shows that can be watched in a single month subscription.
You would think that an AI that controls the ship would be monitoring everything in every room simultaneously, thus any event i.e. the captain being attacked would be seen and other crew members warned instantly. Also uniforms might seem like a trope but they make sense, any space suit/emergency gear would work best without everyone's casual Friday attire.
The clothing was literally the first thing I noticed. This is apparently a life altering mission with only the best of the best and infinite funding and they’re not wearing uniforms? Or even anything that physical work can be done in? It’s not even like they’re wearing leggings or sweatpants like they’re wearing normal ugly clothes
Yea of course they explain this when we discover that William is a defective AI & the one that was actually suppose to be running this trip has been deactivated by William during its download into the ship
So, how is the outreach project going? How did the humans react to the probe? They, er, played it pigeon sounds, sir. Pigeon sounds? Pigeon sounds. Okay... So ... we'll give them another 100 years and then try again? I recommend 200, sir.
It took me forever to figure out why I recognized the husband, Eric. He played Goku in that terrible live action Dragonball Evolution movie from like 2008. Explains a lot about the production of this show that one of the main characters is played by somebody who’s career was basically ruined. I’m gonna guess that he works for relatively cheap. He’s a perfectly adequate actor, unfortunately that’s how show business works
he was also in the us version of the tv show shameless, which i have to say is far better than either of these two pieces of media and he does pretty well in.
The characters in this show were poorly written. We're supposed to believe that these highly trained, specially selected individuals are all juvenile babies with no emotion control? As opposed to the real-life Apollo 13, where the crew were facing death but acted as a team. I'm sorry, but I can't buy that if these people are supposed the only hope for the Earth they wouldn't get a few psych evals to check how they react to stress or with each other.
Tbh in season 2 when they wake up this guy from SOMA he’s all confused as to who team 1 is. He even mentions to Niko why did they give you this team of under qualified people.
They are geniuses but are also incredibly dumb, highly trained and experienced but still babies, specially selected but have the emotional volatility of a preteen on drugs probably, the best in the world but aren't paid enough to pay their own bills? Absolutely nothing makes sense with those people
You forgot to mention the fact that all future plot points and motivations for Eric revolve around the daughter having cancer or whatever, when WHY WAS SHE THERE IN THE FIRST PLACE! WHY WAS A CHILD ALLOWED TO ENTER A SCIENTIFIC MILITARY INSTALLATION AND APPROACH THE ALIEN ARTIFACT THEY'RE STUDYING AAAAAAA!
Not to mention after this clearly now alien-possessed woman kills a room full of people, he somehow thinks it is a good idea to help it because surely it will be true to its word!
“This is like someone being shot in the head with a bazooka and then going like, oh no I’ve lost my sense of smell” perhaps one of my favorite sentences to ever be spoken, thank you
15:58 Ok, so, let me get this straight. They point out that the Oxygen is in the Atmosphere, in a gaseous state, how are there Oxygen Crystals? Why not get Oxygen from the Atmosphere? Doesn't it have 10% Oxygen in the atmosphere? Can't you just, filter out the rest of the gas? Excuse me?
I didn't realise using the human colour spectrum to decode an alien message was the most logical method, considering we don't even know how the aliens view different colours and the light spectrum.
TheRadBread yeah they might even view light in a different spectrum than we do, if they even can see, as I don’t seeing is really the only way an organism could manipulate its environment and achieve sentience, maybe they use echolocation or smell to navigate and “see”.
@Saraneth iirc the rods and cones in human eyes are "better" at seeing certain visible wavelengths than others, I think the ones corresponding to green? Anyway, it's unclear that alien eyes would work the same as ours imo.
"we can't see through this dark matter, and we're scared we could hit a planet in there" is like saying "i've got no clue what's in my garden, the window is in the way, and there could be a thunder storm which could strike me with lightning"
Wait. I know the purpose of the dinner scene in episode three now. It was so they could do a painful and unearned Alien homage. 1. Person gets infected with alien thingy and is out of commission for a while 2. alien thingy seemingly goes away and the person appears to be fine 3. They have a meal with that person who at the meal has a thing burst out of them which kills them
how the fuck could that nervous system still crawl around. it doesnt have anything but a nervous system. no muscles, no bones, no nothing except that. wtf
Why would they go onto to planet with alien lifeform without a helmet even though a few episodes ago they all got sick. Also what idiot brings back a flower that could have alien germs and iscects back onto the ship.
My big thing is why did they think Hallucinating was a GOOD sign, especially to outright eat it? That means whatever toxin it is, it is affecting your nervous system... It could literally be a nerve agent.
Dont you know that as long as a WahMan comes up with the plan, it has to be a good one? Wahman arent wrong in hollywood and they are the strongest smartest sharpest tool in the universe!
@@jonathansoko1085 I genuinly wanna hear the opinion of Random People on the internet, an opinion on "Some More News" newest videos. He does such great Research and calls out the Flaws of Goverment and History so well, i really want more Peoples opinions, so excuse the Randomness of me asking-around.
It's possible that oxygen being in the atmosphere indicates the presence of oxide minerals, and that those are a quicker way to obtain sufficient oxygen for a spaceship than just harvesting the gas, I'm not saying that's what the show intended but it could make sense.
It's a side effect of either the cloning process they used to replace her after she died of brain hemorrhaging after completing a scene, or the lobotomy they performed to convince her this was a good idea...
You know what would have been a better idea? If the crew actually dwindles across the episodes and they have to wake up new crew from an ever smaller reserve, providing a soft time limit for the mission.
Ignoring that hitting a planet in space is highly unlikely, couldn't the "gotta get home fast" dude have a better argument of: "We do not have enough resources to go that slow." Like say the mission takes three months, they prepared for six months (because that's what space missions tend to.) But it'll take them a year to get back to Earth at this pace. Thus they would die anyway but more slowly and it was be inevitable. Making the better choice of taking the chance of dying instantly but also having a better possibility of living.
@@videorowtv5198 "Slingshot maneuvers", also known as gravity assists, mostly exist to change the direction of travel at little to no fuel cost. How a slingshot maneuver is supposed to cut travel time around a cloud of dark matter is beyond me. For that matter, dark matter is called dark matter not because it's dark and scary, but because we know so little about it. It is "dark" to our knowledge. What we _do_ know about it is that it doesn't interact much with normal matter, nor with any wavelengths of electromagnetic radiation (which is basically light). The only way we even know it's there at all, is because it has mass, and therefore gravity. In other words, _it's invisible and intangible and could not possibly obscure your view of nearby stars and planets._ So _there is no reason they should even want to go around it, nor even know it's there._
@theuncalledfor 1) Everyone knows that the dark matter part is absolute bs 2) I don't know the exact physics behind acceleration of gravity assist / "slingshot maneuver". But Voyager 1 probe used it around Jupiter to escape our solar system.
This entire video is demonstrating a consistent lack of knowledge and logic on the writers' part... you're going to point to a single example and be like "this could fix things"?
"This is the conflict of the first episode. Guy wants to get home faster so he wants to risk killing everyone." This is literally an argument my dad and mom always have when he's driving us home. I am not even kidding :D
I hate how the distances don’t make any sense whatsoever. The star they use in the first episode, Sirius A, is 8.6 light years away. This means that the ship can cross that much in a month, translating to one light year every 3.5 days. This means that the planet they’re going to is only 25 light years away. This is ridiculously close. There is no dark matter nor any black holes in this tiny corner of space. This is so close that we’d have likely have already discovered the planets from earth. And a distance of 25 light years isn’t exactly across the galaxy. They could have avoided this by not using Sirius as the star they slingshotted around.
> There is no dark matter nor any black holes in this tiny corner of space. According to our current understanding dark matter is encompassing the visible matter in one gigantic web like structure (called the "cosmic web"), connecting all the star systems. So assuming this is accurate its basically everywhere around us, the solar system, everywhere except in the voids.
There is most likely dark matter going through every person on earth at this very moment in smaller amounts, but a dark matter cloud containing hidden planets within 25 ligh years? not happening.
@@booombasa Actually, many models of dark matter suggest it could be not *that* plentiful, depending on how heavy the particles are (assuming they're even particles, which is only a likely assumption). The idea that they're black hole singularities, for example, there'd be about 1 per city-sized area, according to PBS SpaceTime.
I hope season 2 does come out, and it's just ten episodes of pigeon noises. EDIT: Turns out this show really is being renewed for a second season. ...Shit.
Nah the Earth story will be about the sinister machinations of the Cylons - er, the people with the brain implants - and Baltar... er, Nico's husband, working to further infiltrate the Earth. There will be cults worshipping the artifact and volunteering to be implanted, etc.Meanwhile the space mission has kind of gotten into its groove (clearly identified the aliens as hostile and resolved to blow 'em up) so they'll be battling across the stars with fewer filler plots now that the main plot is finally unveiled, but Baltar and the Secret Cylons will continue to impede their efforts to convey their findings to Earth for a while.
I’m just annoyed with the fact that they sort out their “feelings” WHILE DOING DANGEROUS FREAKIN PROCEDURES!! SORT OUT YOUR FEELINGS LATER MOW IS NOT THE TIME!!!
Apollo 13 crew: ground control, the entire ship is completely fucked. We're going to use duct time and a prayer to fix it. TV writers: if a single cable on the ship is cut, everything breaks and is impossible to repair
if i got to do a rewrite, id have the gamma radiation from a few eps back burn out some stuff.. make them fix a fuck up the created fixing things with stupid
@@MaticTheProto Apollo 13 very nearly didn't make it back after having many, many things go wrong, so your "wasn't that bad irl" is spectacularly silly.
How to make a bad sci-fi movie 101: 1. Send a group of people on a humanity-saving mission. 2. Make them them the most inept and unqualified people in the galaxy. 3. Profitssss....
that shot of "Saturn" is actually Saturns rings photoshopped around Jupiter so I guess they thought Saturn wasn't cool enough
Lol wut?
_Why would anyone do that though???_
they have the hexagon storm . Also have you ever been to saturn, you wouldn't no exactly what it looks like for photos right.... yeah they are unclear as fuck. It is a good visual
Kyce Essadki rings? Cool. Bands? Cool. Rings AND bands? Cool^2. Or in the language of the show Cool^(dark matter)
They couldn’t afford to get a picture of Saturn.
@@macavar5632 Wow, you're an idiot. Who cares about accuracy or science. Also the word is "know" not "no" but I'm glad you thought it was a good visual, it seems it was aimed directly at your demographic.
Ian was trying to kill everyone to save us from the rest of the series. He's the true hero.
holy crap [head explodes]
He tried to take the shortcut
When he failed at killing them all, he then just tried to kill the captain in an effort to save Katee Sackhoff's career. R.I.P., Ian
He had to get back to his girlfriend who was already aboard the ship.
@@gembocobo9484 don't you mean [nervous system falls out]
The "Knife" that he pulled in episode 2. It is a Drywall knife with a handle painted black- literally has no use as a tool with the exception of cutting holes in drywall. The ship certainly has no drywall on it.
yeah i was wondering that jesus christ
Sure it does! The whole set is made out of drywall - among other things, after all! lol
Matthew Carroll so they couldn’t even find an actual knife and used one from the builders
Maybe he worked on drywall
Drywall may not be the tastiest, but the crew need to eat something.
An 11% chance of failure to correctly slingshot a star is fine but 0.00000001% of hitting a rogue planet is too risky. Got it.
It depends where you are going, if you're going straight through a star system, planets may sweep you up
@@scifi_shop dude, space is WAY bigger than you realize
@@scifi_shop If you're going through a solar system, you're more likely to be holed by a random micrometeorite than crash into a planet
Nononono it's a 0.0000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000001% chance.
@@scifi_shop You're looking at something like 0.000003% chance to even hit anything if you're going through a solar system comparable to ours. That doesn't even count all the orders of magnitude of empty space between solar systems. If you do you can add another 8 zeros.
We're currently doing just that by the way, our solar system is moving around in empty space and at any moment we could encounter a black hole or a rogue planet. It never happens, not because we're lucky, but because it's unlikely.
2:09, "There's a load of dark matter in the way." The writers obviously don't know anything about dark matter. Dark matter is invisible to all wavelengths, so there's no way it can possibly block your view. Complaining about there being too much dark matter in the way of your spaceship is like complaining there's too much air in the way of your airplane.
Even I know that and I am an English lit major
This can't all be coincidence, they must have written it badly on purpose.
@Trenton McKenzie
this fanfic is far from a real sci-fi, too many of the science aspect is purely bullshit. like seriously, someone could've google'd what dark matter is. not to mention the fact that the crew is run by shitty people. at best, this show is unintentional comedy, gave me a few laugh.
but the airplane one is actually true. how would you go about flying a plane with air in the way?
Psshhh, no. They clearly meant the matter they were looking at is dark.
1:38 "you are a scientist in charge of other scientists" That is the worst line of exposition I have ever heard. *ever*
Honestly, it sounds like the sort of thing we'd get from this sort of channel as a joke.
You know, the slightly glib summary of backstories.
I'm surprised she didn't say that he does "science".
It chould have been better if she then followed it by. “ but you still can’t even know what it means?! “
"You have his power. You are his granddaughter. You, are a Palpatine
@@hoangminhle1964 "you are a scientist in charge of other scientists" is far worse...
Moons are like deer driving down a dark country road. They jump out in front of you from nowhere.
After playing The Outer Wilds, I can confirm this is true.
Hahah!
It's not just me?
Those damn deer. Constantly driving down dark country roads.
@@phantomkitten73 One time I was in orbit of giant's deep and one of the tornadoes flung an island at me
Outer wilds is a better horror game then actual horror games
Theorists: “The math shows us that there should be much more matter in the universe, but most of it is unaccounted for. We’ll call this “dark matter” since we don’t know what it is and can’t see or detect it.”
This show: “Look, a bunch of dark matter! It’s so dark!”
That’s so much more interesting than black gas. It sets up a mystery
The sad part is that i would 100% watch a satirical drama show or movie where all the best scientists are dead and psuedo-scientists are the only ones left to save humanity.
Set dead serious in tone but having none of them understand complex scientific theories would be amazing
@@jaybay5538 I would watch that/read book like that(Anti-Martian by Andy Weir)
It's matter! And it's dark! Like squid ink! Maybe it was made by a giant space squid! Ooh I should write that down for a future episode
FYI, we can detect dark matter. It has mass and thus affects gravity. That’s how we figured out that it exists.
Man, I hate when my nervous system just shlorps out of my body.
Underrated comment
*s h l o r p s*
gotta take away that central nervous system, it'll readjust your moral fiber.
read this when he said it
@@ExceedinglyFPR Yes, it's like delete system32 folder from windows, it works very good for me.
24:27 HOW DOES HER NERVOUS SYSTEM MOVE. IT'S A BUNDLE OF NERVES NOT A SNAKE.
It got Nervous
Magic
But yeah its also doesnt look like it does in the move and wouldn’t be able to removed from the body without the body being shredded appart
Nevernamed Don’t you make Gungeon videos? Small world.
That's the only moment in the series (Of which I managed a whole four episodes) that I liked. A bit of classic body-horror work. Didn't fit in at all with the rest of the episode or the series, writing was awful, but... if you're going to rip off the iconic scene from Alien, that's the way to rip it off.
@@ROBOTPETER101 Hah perfect
My god, a ufo has landed, the most momentous occasion in human history!!! We need to send a team of like 3 people with iPads to go study it!!!
Cue pigeon sounds
right!!! lolol
For me it was the permanent bitch face they made starbuck wear after she lost TOO much weight and playyed an unlikeable bitch that bangs AI and feels guilty...sigh..
What weee they supposed to do?
Secure it? make any effort of actually studying it? this show is FAR to intelligent for logic you know
a "team"?
obviously...you're are a LUCIFER lover.
The plot would be better if the first episode actually had the original crew mess everything up in an unclear method and then the show follows the replacement crew as they wake up to a disaster of a ship with almost every old crew member dead. This could lead to them trying to figure out what happened with the only surviving member of the old crew being unable to say or recall what happened but obviously being traumatized.
That's already been done in Pandorum.
And red dwarf, but that was more of the “everyones dead” kinda way. Jay actually makes a red dwarf reference in this video which is fun
@@rocketraccoon1976 It's only a premise, you can go a hundred different directions from there.
@uncocharmaggedon9176 Could also kind say The Thing as well
16:53 "It was in such a low orbit I couldn't detect it"
Meanwhile, in our non-Type II civilization: "Huh, this tiny little star a hundred light years away is wobbling in a weird way. It must have exactly three planets orbiting it."
and we have literally seen many reading we thought were megastructures thus actually know how to look for them again at below type 2
We're not even Type-I yet and won't be in a couple hundred years. We're like Type-0.7
Even better, we detect the wobble through the nearly infinitesimal shift in emitted frequencies caused by the doppler effect imparted through the wobble. The AI is just incompetent and doesn't want to admit it.
We aren't even type 1 yet...
He's literally saying "it was too close I couldn't detect it"... Jesus. Apart from a few of the last episodes of season two, nothing saves S1, nothing. All episodes are moronic beyond belief, although I must admit one could feel a slight progression towards them getting fractionally better with each episode, though not by a lot and probably only after episode 4 (apart from 8, which, for me, was the worst one in the whole show).
She really went with “He was a threat so I killed him” over the more accurate and less psychopathic sounding “The dude tried to murder me with a knife so I had to kick him into the ball of electricity in self defense”
as one does
I'm pretty sure that even a psychopath would say "he came at me with a knife so I defended myself". Just because a person lacks empathy, it doesn't mean their ability to convey relevant information is impaired or that they're stupid enough to make it sound like they outright murdered someone who didn't do anything to deserve it.
@@wolf1066 If anything, a psychopath would probably make themselves seem more like the victim to manipulate the other members of the crew into taking their side.
@@wolf1066 True, but my point was that instead of giving a true and completely justified reason for what she did, she chose to make herself look like she had absolutely no remorse and just killed him because she thought he was bad for the team.
@@geekgirl_luv4262 Not sure if the script writers were desperately trying to contrive ways of introducing mistrust/tension between her and the crew or they just thought it sounded "edgy".
Either way, whoever wrote that steaming pile should be laughed out of town.
I have never heard of this show and had no intentions to watch it, but you can bet your bucket I watched this whole hour-long video explaining why it sucks.
#MeToo
Fucking yes. I love to listen to people passionately taking a steaming shit on bad television/film that I have no intention of ever watching.
I haven't watched it and have no plans to watch it but HOW DOES NICO (?) NOT MENTION THE KNIFE THAT WAS PULLED ON HER
So you're ahead of me in life by 1 hour because I am watching this video right now, which is good, but I actally watched the 1st episode so I already lost.
Good job letting other people do your thinking for you, Anna The Drone! Maybe... Anna the NPC? :D
This whole show is just like a game in DND where the DM creates problems that sound interesting on paper to someone who only passed 8th grade but doesn't want anyone to die so saves them regardless of how poorly they solve the issues. Expect for that one guy who was kicked from the game because the DM didn't like him derailing his well crafted story (the guy who took the 11% chance of death).
And yet this show is still written better than half the trash we now get because of an abundance of nepotism. I get that you want to hop on the hate train but there are much more deserving targets, but I guess you gotta go where you can get with the other sheep.
@thomgizziz regardless of there being shows worse then this, this still deserves every criticism it gets, it's just really shit writing, and teenagers could write better then the mentally handicapped people who wrote this and the ones watching this type of shit are the sheep lol
@@thomgizziz What a needlessly combative comment. We can dislike multiple things
But of course the D&D game is fun because you're hanging around with your friends and laughing about the time two players rolled nat 1s on their perception rolls and missed a moon.
This show was nothing but a vehicle to aggressively push transgenderism
90% of space shows forget that all astronauts also go through intense psicological evaluations and training, they wouldnt go crazy or be so aggressive towards eachother, they are picked specifically because they are people who can be calm and collected in difficuly situations
i thought that also and then I remember they were in a rush weren’t they? No time for cherry picking and the artifact landing was at that time a potential alien invasion so people were rushed and everybody probably went nuts in the face of a higher intelligent being who could possibly obliterate the entire earth. Even if they were trained to deal with potential threat situations with aliens, they weren’t particularly trained for this type of alien, this powerful and calculating. Basically imagination can run wild for some people and they didn’t have an idea on the scale of the aliens’ capabilities so combined with fear of death that made them take irrational decisions and actions.
It's a movie for out entertainment with fit woman. I'm sure it would be less entertaining if boring people crew the ship. It's not meant to be realistic
This show is trash don't get me wrong. But to say a show about real astronauts being professional would somehow be better is insane... Watching a real life astronaut would be boring af... That's not why this show is trash...
@@opticalcanine exactly why plots about well trained astronautes are all ass, if you need people in space making dumb decisions or acting erratically there are other ways to do it, example, high life with robert pattinson, lotta people doing dumb shit in space, still an amazing movie
@@100Jim Saying that it would be less entertaining if the show portrayed "boring" people is a matter of opinion. I personally think that it'd be much more interesting to follow a group of realistically written professionals dealing with these crazy situations. The problem is that it's much harder to write great realistic characters, than it is to write cheap characters, who can freely break any set of rules for the sake of entertainment.
I wouldn't even have a problem with this, if the show went balls to the walls with the "cheap entertainment". I only have a problem with it when shows like these try to ride the middle. I mean why try to feed us "believable" science, when you're clearly throwing that science out of the window for the sake of enterainment right after? It's the worst of both worlds.
Just pointing this out, but they find crystallized oxygen on a planet with an atmospheric temperature of -5 degrees Celsius. If oxygen froze at that temperature, then most of the world wouldn't be able to breathe during the winter. It is something so basic that they still messed up. Also, I would like to point out that the atmospheric pressure of the planet is exactly the same as Earth, which for a planet with a climate that different would be nigh impossible. Also, can we talk about how the SPACESHIP HAS HEADLIGHT???
You gotta use it to see through all that dark matter
@@orlab-t9217 HAHAHAHHAHA
How would a headlight work in space? Like would it even light anything in front
@@chikipichi5280 Exactly
@@res0nance197 but would it actually light something?
waaait a minute, dark matter isn't like, a thing that can obstruct your vision (hell, the whole point is that dark matter is invisible but does influnce the movement of the universe), it's the stuff that roughly 85% of the known universe is made. It's the equivalent of saying "there is a whole bunch of wind over there that i can't see trough" so right off the bat the show is being unbelievable stupid
Also dark matter is transparent so their is no reason why it would obscure your vision It would be like saying dont point that water gun at me you could blind me
What even MORE fucked up is that from a pure common sense/writing perpective, all they had to do to fix it was throw in a SINGLE line explaining that the dark matter cloud will confuse or temporarily reduce accuracy of their sensors or something. that would at least sound more plausible/sciencey. They couldnt send any of this past a person with a 8th grade science education ffs?
Because Quantum.
If we're going into scientific inaccuracies, I would argue that dying in space would be *infinitely* preferable to their inevitable deaths from acute radiation poisoning from the gamma rays that they were soaking in
I have counted exactly one scientifically accurate part of this show, which is that, assuming the ship achieves faster-than-light travel with wormholes, it *would* actually require exotic matter (matter with negative gravitational effects) to prevent the wormhole from collapsing in the centre (I mean, in the show it refers to the exotic matter as "fuel", but it still gets a half point)
Edit: oh, and the screens being tablets glued to the wall is pretty accurate. Engineers love to cut corners, why build tons of small, high Res displays when some kid in a Chinese sweatshop has already fine it for you?
Wouldn’t it have been so much cooler if the “surprise moon” was a ticking clock from the beginning? Like if one of the characters said something like “a massive asteroid knocked the moon out of its orbit, it’ll collide with the planet and kill everything on it in [insert time limit] but we have to risk it because it’s the only planet we can reach on our oxygen supplies.” Then you could have the danger at the end be that they ran out of time and the moon is about to crash. I feel like that was a massive missed opportunity
Better: moons don't crash, they crumble before they can reach the planet, buuut, the planet has unstable moons that will crash in (time) and the disasters that precede the collision get worse and worse and at the end they gotta escape a tsunami and they see the planet getting burned by the debris
Random youtube commenters really writing a better story than the storywriters.
@efd117 lol thanks
oh hey, perfect example of Hitchcock's Bomb
That's not actually any more likely than them just not detecting the moon at all, it's basically a diabolus ex machina, like what arr the odds it would happen the exact time they arrive
Fun Fact: You hit a planet every time you take a step
This. I like this. A great example of doublespeak. Something as mundane as walking can sound brutal with the right words.
Personally, I step on a planet everytime I walk.
Fun Fact: The planet hits back, and it can easily kill you from even a small attack if it manages to hit a vulnerable part of your body.
Aren't you technically kicking a planet
Sometimes when I walk, I like to imagine it's not me who's moving but instead I'm in place and I'm just rotating the earth with my feet. Kinda makes me feel dizzy after a while.
Okay, I understand the problems with its backstory, but Implausible Space Virus is by far the most relatable character in the show. All it wanted was to kill the entire crew of the Salvare. Honestly I wasn't expecting this from Another Life: A sympathetic hero you are really rooting for, but that tragically fails to achieve its goals. Powerful stuff.
...this is the best comment
@@ZeroKitsune it is.
lol
Yeah I always wanted to rip someone's entire nervous system out
I love this amazing story, I also sympathize with the bug thing that chewed through the wires, he sacrificed his life to stop these insane people. Same with Ian, he just wanted to kill the crew. Those poor heroes, but it's really bold of them following the villains and killing off almost every hero that tries to stop them.
This is like the fake scifi show that plays in the background of the real scifi show.
I absolutely love the line about the crew being selected by asking people who got thrown out of a nightclub of they wanted to go to space.
The accuracy bought me to tears
and Hurley from Lost
exactly and its evident from the first 15 minutes of the show, instantly dropped it after Ep 1, too much suspension of disbelief that a bunch of high school kids are allowed to commandeer a space expedition. Preferred how they portrayed the importance of stable mental health in Ad Astra and seeing the lack of if it in Another Life just for some half ass drama is frustrating to watch
I llike how they dress like they are attending a party (some of the dresses the woman were are literaly straight out of a new years eve party or a freaking oscars gala). I mean no space suits or any formal uniforms in sight. They are on the most important mission in humanitys history - To literally save the human race. They are presumably on some kind of military or exploratory vesel build by some kind of goverment organization or stright up the military. it's not like they are doing some odd jobs here and there in space like the freaking Serenity Crew. And to add to that we have a captain who had to kill her previous crew because of some kind of on board accident. You know what woul prevent that ? i dont know - maybe if they were wearing some kind of suits witch would enable them to quicly put their helmets on ? or just to enable them to go into full space suits quick?
@@ducanhluong918totally agree. I know I set the bar pretty low when it comes to suspending disbelief. I mean I’m the kind of guy who will zone out to a show at the end of a long day and even I was calling BS on so many things on this show.
The show’s color palate is just painful to look at and feels cheap
Chaotic Good lmfaoooooo
Looks like the flash it’s pretty shit
Hey, tungsten lighting is cinematic so lets just turn that shit up 400%
Film students should know better palette choice. I mean it is among the first things they teach you
THANK YOU shit it looks so ugly. Everything is either desaturated plain puke yellow or oversaturated dark and bright blue in a way it's nearly impossible to make up what's going on on screen. It looks like the color grading was made in a shitty, poorly calibrated, old monitor.
This show is wattpad fanfiction levels of bad
Don’t disrespect Wattpad fanfiction like that at least those people are just dumb 13 year-olds instead of even dumber 30 year-olds
@Andrew Salter Hell
(or not, depends where you look)
I like Jay's videos but I'm halfway through and it's hard to watch even with his commentary. It almost comes off as a parody of science fiction, maybe this show is actually genius and we're all the stooges here
@@jftemple44 Kinda like Billy to Grim lol
@Andrew Salter wattpad is a site where you can publish various writings. It has a few gems but it’s mainly bad fanfiction from what I’ve seen
*24 beeps
"Ah yes, *white."*
Why are we here
@@corv3007 Just to suffer.
@@infiniteshay8660 Everynight I can feel my leg
Never mind that our entire system of color representation is based on the red/green/blue cone cells of the human retina. So these aliens happened to evolve the same color perception mechanism as humans AND invented the same system for transcribing those color values into binary.
Beep, beep, beep, beep, beep, beep, beep, beep, beep, beep, beep, beep, beep, beep, beep, beep, beep, beep, beep, beep, beep, beep, beep, beep.
I'm pretty sure the bit where the bad consequence of being hit with the deadly radiation was they became sterile is that the writers misunderstood the medical term "sterilize" in the context.
omg you're so right that makes so much sense lmao
Radiation does make people sterile, the more often a given cell duplicates the more vulnerable it is to being damaged by radiation (as far as i understand the dna of a cell is especially vulnerable during mitosis), and in order to create sufficient numbers of sperm cells and egg cells those cells duplicate a lot.
Radiation therapy for cancer, if it's down around there, sterilizes men. The testes are pretty sensitive to that. Not sure if the rads are gamma or some type of particle but I suspect it is gamma because proton is new for therapy, alpha/beta doesn't penetrate, and neutrons would leave your bones radioactive.
@@tristan7216 Radiation in such a therapy is given in small, controlled and targeted doses. Such an application is not relevant to the "being whole-body blasted by a star emitting gamma radiation" scenario. That sort of thing would sterilize, sure - in the sense that it kills everything that's exposed to it.
Or they didn't care, and shouldn't have to because realism was not the goal.
Why is no one pointing out how orange the show is
@WhomItMayConcern yeah pretty much
The expanse but orange.... and for SF millenials!
Look up now. I just did it. Hit “Read More” too. Cause I amended my thoughts later.
Maybe they are trying to mimic Wes Anderson... a bit of square staging of scene shots and yuppies everywhere will think the bad plot holes are really just witty meta humor.
@@Fridaey13txhOktober It's more like a SF show for soccer moms. I watched because I'd rather watch a bad hard science fiction show that a good show set in the middle ages (like Game of Thrones).
But it's got all the hallmarks of a women's show: a middle aged woman involved in love triangle, the sassy black girl as her friend, the blatantly gay character in the background...
This show chucking around the terms “light-speed” and “light year”. If you’re travelling at the speed of light it’s going to take you a year to travel a LIGHT YEAR
@Kevin Z no it wouldn't, a light-year is the distance light travels in a year, so anything travelling at the speed of light would cover the same distance in the same amount of time as light.
Unless you are talking about some weird law of physics where someone travelling at the speed of light experiences time differently than someone who isn't
@@thomasw7908This is why you can't accelerate matter to the speed of light "c", because closer the speed of matter to the "c" the more energy it takes to accelerate, so it takes more energy than there are in a universe to accelerate a single gramm to "c". Also matter is accelerated to "c" it stops experience time at all (ZA WARUDO).
Ludicrous speed is a lot faster.
@Kevin Z the show also said the mission would take 6 months from Earth's perspective...
@@thomasw7908 By "some wierd law of physics", do you mean the Special Theory of Relativity? Because that's what you're describing.
the scene where the girls nervous system fell out is so blasphemous to me just because:
a) A character gets into medical trouble after an encounter on an alien planet.
b) After an incubation period, their symptoms seemingly dissipate.
c) The crew celebrates by sitting down to a nice cozy dinner,
d) Which is interrupted by something bursting from the afflicted crew members body.
.....So they just straight up shamelessly ripped off alien with none of the incredible writing or suspense??
Not to mention the wildly varying symptoms when they all supposedly got the same thing, and the fact that the lady was just fine right up until her spine burst out (which would not happen, btw)... that whole thing was just stupid.
This whole show is just stupid.
Incredible writing?
Alien is fucking overrated and the writing is crap. The characters act like completely unbelievable idiots and the entire movie is carried by nothing but atmosphere, acting and special effects. The actual story falls to pieces under the slightest touch of logical scrutiny.
Alien is a _guilty pleasure_ that's shared by so many people that it's become commonly accepted as "good". Don't get me wrong, I enjoyed it too, but its flaws are too grave and too numerous for it to be the masterpiece it's so widely regarded as.
The scenes of Sasha entering the artifact and hallucinating discussions with himself are shamelessly plagiarized from Michael Crichton's _Sphere,_ while the scenes of the crew yukking it up after eating the flowers could have been ripped right out of _The Lord of the Rings._
@@RodrigoTechador tbh at first, the girl's spine bursting out was sorta disturbing...until I realized that this is a show where the writers can't think of anything original.
It's an _homage_ !
Was just reading an article that said, "The planet is located only 3 million miles from its star. In astronomical terms, that's like standing close enough to another person for your nose hairs to get tangled up." And of course immediately thought of "wE cOuLd HiT a PlAnEt"
You don't know that the laws of physics in the alternative universe work the same as here.
No need to let realism kill all imagination...
Am I the only one bothered by the fact that technology on Earth seems like today, despite it being at least a hundred years into the future on the ship?
Daniel Moolman only futuristic tech I saw was the Double sided TV
@@wockhardt5656 Weird to have regular electronics and light speed travel at the same time.
It was too expensive to make props.
The style of the clothes that the crew were wearing instead of uniforms also seemed exactly the same.
This show has a lot of problems, so many that you could probably catalog them like pieces in a museum, so no. I think with all the issues with the show, that just wasn't one of the first things that most people noticed.
You know, I'm a writer myself, and I use a lot of nicknames for explaining bad writing tropes to my friends. I think "Surprise Moon" is going to be my nickname for a sudden unexplained obstacle when the writer couldn't write conflict smoothly lol
they have an excuse for it in season 2 why the AI didn't detect it
I like this. Tell me more bad trope nicknames, magic man.
@@issi9740 “season 2” 😔
@@issi9740 This thing got a second season?!
When I’m doubt SURPRISE MOON
I love how it's the most important mission ever and they send a team of people who never met until they were on the ship.
@@harukasatou1359 fuck off, don't make things political if they don't have too be.
@@harukasatou1359 you're certainly pretty angry about that scenario that you invented out of nowhere. You're like a fully self-powered outrage machine.
yeah... also not even trained astronauts... ...what the crap...?
@@harukasatou1359 Reeeeeee
Not all the characters are white men!
Reeeeeeeee
Or just don’t send these brainlets
one little thing i can give the show: as a body horror artist, the nervous system exiting a person's body intact and writhing on the floor is a pretty creepy idea and visual. it feels unearned though. generally this whole show seems like cool ideas stapled together haphazardly. not only do they not fit together, but they make no sense and could only work in a fantasy scifi. unfortunately they present it like a soft scifi, going into way to much detail about things they do not understand at all.
seriously, who the hell let them get all the way through production without changing the depiction of dark matter as a *big poofy cloud?*
A body horror artist, huh?
I sincerely hope to hell you do it as a hobby.
I like body horror, but I draw the fucking LINE at fetishization.
People these days are so fucked in the head, they'll fap to anything.
Literally anything.
It grinds my fucking gears.
Yeah it was quite spooky the first time watching. Second time it's very goofy though since all you're thinking is "why" since theres no surprise lmao
A little late to this comment, but this scene is just a cheap knock off from Alien. It completly missed the point and reason of the original.
@@fabin5870 true, i was more suggesting that it would be cool from a visual standpoint. the writing for the scene sucks lol
also, they specified "nervous system". The nervous system is made of thin tendrils, not a mushy mass (google image "human nervous system" to see one after extraction from a cadaver). Also, there are no muscles (because again, they specified nervous system, not muscle system), so it can't move.
Your analogies are beautiful. "This us like someone getting shot in the head with a bazooka and going 'oh noe. I've lost my sense of smell.'"
Wikipedia: dark matter is matter that doesn’t interact with light
Show: we cant see because of the dark matter
That was my first thought too. Dark matter is not called that way because it is literally dark.
What did you expect? they have to use the windows media player skin with the visualizer to do their space measurements.
you gotta understand that the show is set like uh 30 years into the future if I remember so maybe they have different understanding of dark matter
@@LilHoss4k Ah yes that fixes everything thank you, I'm gonna go write my fanfic where they find out they were exactly 180 degrees wrong about gravity the whole time and planets just fling everybody into space.
@@AggravatedAstronomer i was only talking about darkmatter
I mean, it is possible that an airborne virus WOULD affect the nervous system, it WOULD be unpredictable, and the symptoms shown (spasms, blindness, personality "shifts") ARE possible symptoms of neuron/nerve damage.
Other fun plausible symptoms include:
Sudden and intense constipation.
Inability to recall short-term information.
Slurred speech. (15:54)
Impulsive and irrational decision-making.
A burning feeling that never goes away.
Sexual dysfunction.
Loss of hearing.
And a rare condition called urinary urge incontinence where you basically completely lose the ability to control your bladder.
These are all medically possible.
Your nervous system fuckin FALLIING OUT, however, is not.
I thought the guy at 15:54 was a AI
don't you just hate when your nervous system falls out?
Ah cmon man ı want it to shlorp
@@mertarican5456why the fuck is your “I” circumcised
"you are a scientist, in charge of other scientists, all trying to communicate with an alien artifact that landed on earth 6 months ago."
"yes, thank you my wife who I met in chicago 20 years ago and have since been happily married to, who's favourite food is blueberry waffles"
This show's understanding of dark matter is like what every child imagines when they first hear the term.
much like Star Trek Into Darkness's understanding of "cold" fusion
Yeah, that cloudy shit is a nebula, not dark matter. Dark matter is the funky stuff that’s somewhere in the universe that is making the gravity different to what we think it should be doing. Dark matter could be anything, to a really big clump of dirt, to some type of undiscovered type of gravitational contributer, to a giant invisible space squid
Quantum cock.
@@noizepusher7594 I need a show that represents dark matter as a giant invisible space squid. If they're going to screw with science this badly, then why not add a space squid?
@@atree4627 The ending to the show Nightflyers (which I only just learned was made by George RR Martin) kind of has something like this. Decent show, completely forgot the name of it though but I liked it enough at the time, and it's only a small season.
>the ship is designed to fail completely when one small part fails
It was probably just designed by Apple
Sirius Cybernetics. Once they go into space, Apple becomes Sirius Cybernetics.
You need to cool it with the Apple hatred, Sonny Jim! Many people watching this video probably do so on an inovative and user friendly Apple Device!
@@NotoriousLightning It would tho. It's a fact that apple devices aren't sturdy and can break after one clumsy drop.
@@NotoriousLightning Easy up with the jokes, I'm figuratively dying of laughter
@@vanroyal244 clumsy drop? If i look at it with a angry face it will break
“I wouldn’t trust this crew with building an IKEA cabinet together without stabbing each other” - Made me laugh mate...
I've never actually hated every. single. character. in anything, ever... Until Another Life came along.
@@zubileegluckgluckthe bug that chewed through the wire:
51:33 “I’ll never be in the DSM” Um, what? How would finding a cure for depression get you in the DSM? The DSM doesn’t include treatments for disorders; it is purely descriptive. It’s a tool for diagnosis. It does not include a list of treatments and who discovered them.
Also, how does one "get into the DSM" anyway? Even if one were a psychologist who categorizes a new disorder, then it doesn't say "Ultra-depressive weeb disorder, discovered by Jimmy Neuron PhD"
Damn you didn't even touch on how one episode has "you're all sterilized now" be the only consequence of the gamma radiation and then having an accidental pregnancy be a plot a few episodes later
Excuse meWUT
Seriously WTF?!
The fuck????
Yeah true but your pfp is cringe
@@dexter2392 fascinating opinion, person who I don't know and didn't ask
Yeah! And i love the pfp, looks really cool :D
> "This show doesn't have plotholes, it is plotholes"
"Filling... in.. the gaps..."
- "It's not about what is in the plot, it's about what's not in the plot."
"Exactly"
This is great. You really tied everything together.
This is gold, this entire video in one statement
Truer words never spoken
This is a mission to save humanity! Let's send the most mentally unstable people we can find with zero discipline and all with completely different views on almost every topic.
Also we are gonna send like 7 of them, that's more than enough
@@navaryn2938 Gotta have those aliens underestimating us so we can have a handicap
Its just like in this other show, Away. Its not just about astronauts going to Mars, no its about a strong mother, which spends the entire mission preparation on the moon at the phone, arguing with her sick husbands doctors and theres a child with down syndrome which has a hard life but everyone is nice to her and she manages to go to highschool like a normal child. The entire mission team consists of mentally unstable egotists who try to cut each others throats and the mission basically almost fails because one solar panel needs to be manually deployed.
Theres gotta be some kind of guidelines they keep following there in order to mess it up that badly. It seems for netflix its really important to feed us unplausibly bad social drama, to depict how people should (not) interact with each other or something. Oh and theres some space stuff too.
Getting rid of them is what is supposed to save humanity.
@@fastenedcarrot9570 If they really want them gone, they should've picked a cheaper method than sending them to space
I worked on this show (S1) and thought it was some of the most brainless, easy cash i ever made. I'm only halfway through your review and i've been laughing my ass off the whole time. I don't regret working on this show, my only regret is having told my parents (post-production) the name of the show i had been working on over the last few months - my mum then told me she really enjoyed the show and asked if there would be another season coming out, 🤣💀
out of pure curiousity, what parts did you work on?
Hell yeah, easy money indeed. And condolences to your mom 😢📺🪐
@@benjiboy69420wait what happened
And another there was.
I mean, if I worked on a show that was just 10 hour long episodes of a brick wall and nothing else, my mom would say she loved it as well.
Maybe your mom just loves that you worked on the show, and that makes all the negatives easy to overlook.
It's worth mentioning RGB is based on how the human eye perceives light. That's the whole reason it's based on the colors red, green, and blue in the first place. There's absolutely no reason aliens would use any sort of similar scale.
Also, transforming the RGB of white into binary, it would be 111111110 111111110 111111110
Which is... well
@@bl4cksp1d3r actually it'd be full 1's, which is far more stupid.
@@chrismincey3246 oh of course full ones, my mistake!
@@bl4cksp1d3r This message says in binary, 111111111 111111111 111111111 !
it makes no sense the gaps would just all have hte same length unrelated to binary bfhgdgfh
at the very least hex is basically just rgb but the 255s are represented in base 16, so if you vconvert rgb and hex to binary I'm pretty sure they'd be the same but one had spaces
Furthermore, they say that the message is in "what they're not hearing" so the message is literally no sound at all.
also, 10% oxygen in the atmosphere! Let's ignore the oxygen in the atmosphere and take it out of the ground, which is NOT the amosphere!
You cant take oxygen out of the atmosphere idiot, thw oxygen in thr cave is frozen and formed into a crystal so its kinda easier to mine it than just to take it from the atmosphere
@@Arthemis20 But having 10% oxygen in the atmosphere doesn't mean there's any in the ground. How did they know it was in the ground? Maybe the AI but then why say there's 10% in the atmosphere and not say anything about the ground if the oxygen in the atmosphere is irrelevant.
@@Arthemis20 this entire comment is just so wrong...
@@Arthemis20
letmegooglethat.com/?q=Separating+oxygen+from+air
Idiot
I mean they could be extracting quartz crystals. They’re just silicon and oxygen
Unfortunately, this video is already out of date.
Netflix just released The I-Land.
loool
This show is a masterpiece compared to The I-Land.
Damn, I wanted to say this. I-Land is really pure garbage
Only reason i watched the I-land is because I was like "no way this is a matrix type thing, that would be so damn stupid...aw, damn, it totally is that"
Then i was like, "no way is this I-land a form of punishment for criminals... Aw, shit, it is"
Then i was like "no way is this going to be all plot twisty and it turns out this main character is actually not guilty of murdering her mother because that's too obvio- oh holy shit, who wrote this?!?"
Then i was like, "they better not do that whole plot-twist-within-a-plot-twist-thing and it turns out the main character is actually super old-SONOFABITCH!"
First thing I thought when I saw this video title pop up!
I like how the whole crew acts like my friends playing a new multiplayer game, no one is sure how the maps works, how the scanners work,what the ship can withstand, how to properly plan routes, the AI is desperately trying to get everyone to do the right thing for the mission to continue while we all just try random shit that damages the ship and destroys import equipment while we try to figure out how anything works.
Difference is when we blow up we can restart the mission.
If this crew is meant to be made up of all the best scientists or whatever, why does it look like it's made up entirely of 20-25 year old instagrammers in permanent makeup and hair product?
STEM was deemed too cis-hetero-patriarchal and banned, so everyone is actually a liberal arts student with a major in something inane like cultural studies, photography, gender-reassignment, slam poetry, or ukelele (every other instrument was too hard to learn or not soothing enough for their safe spaces...)
why is it strange that STEM majors look nice lmfaooooo
@@anjarose6074 I don't think the implication was that they looked nice, I mean, at a certain point makeup and product make you look trashy, like either a really crappy emo or one of those girls whose legs are in different states 24/7...
@@theapexsurvivor9538 damn, I am an instagramer
@@Skullbrothers *pats you on the back* it's okay, it's never too late to seek help.
To add to the "We might hit a planet" part of this review, aside from the space between planets there is also the space ABOVE and BELOW the planets. Unbeknownst to the creators of this show, unlike the graphs of the solar system you saw in school, planetary systems in fact reside within three dimensional space.
Yeah also planets are, in comparison, packed really really tight together in solar systems, the space between solar systems is so empty that you won't even find atoms there.
that's crazy, next thing you'll tell me is that earth is round and doesn't have invisible walls to stop us from falling off-
@D MAS
Absolute nonsense!
@@urbanberndtsson: simply madness
@@asmahasmalaria8596 it's comparable to the mistake most media makes about planet rings. They make them look like they're densely packed with rocks, but in reality, the rocks within planet rings are miiiiiiles apart.
This whole thing feels like if a 13 year old, star trek fan fiction writer, directed a Netflix show
I was under the impression that it was
That's an insult to teens.
I feel like a 12 year old with basic middle school literature comprehension could probably write a better story than this lol
The "infrasound" thing really bothers me for several reasons that are purely based on physical implementation.
For one, pigeons and elephants can PERCEIVE infrasound, but they don't commonly USE it to communicate in a meaningful way. So playing pigeon noises wouldn't matter because those noises wouldn't be "in infrasound" - the fact we can hear the pigeon noises literally means they AREN'T substantially in an audible range outside our own hearing. Further, the SPEAKERS playing the sounds are probably not tuned to such a range because almost no speakers ever made would be in a range *people can't hear* - they're speakers, the *point is to hear them*. Now, headphones commonly do include pretty wide ranges beyond what's "commonly" distinct and audible, notably a lot of "bass heavy" headphones will go down to 5Hz, but the purpose of that is the vibration it creates, which we can FEEL. The speakers shown in the show are isolated in a way that eliminates that reverberation - meaning even IF there's a meaningful amount of sub-20Hz frequency in the recording (there isn't), it's dying in the air and not in any way being actually transferred to the alien object. They brought up whales - whales can use extremely low (not infrasound, still) frequencies to communicate because they're in saltwater, a phenomenal carrier of "waveform" energy like sound, color (whole different rant about how colors die in water, fascinating though), electricity, etc. But stuff like that dies in clear dry air quickly. So playing these sounds on normal speakers in the regular clear air means that all the frequencies he's trying to use are dying about an inch from the speakers. The sounds are literally NOT REACHING THE ARTEFACT, they legitimately can't be, by the nature of how sound and physics works.
The other half that's nonsense is the idea that a symphony can be "dropped to 1Hz" and "turned into infrasound" - notes are literally, not metaphorically, I mean literally determined by their Hz. For example, let's say Beethoven's Fifth starts with the notes "G-G-G-F" - the lowest frequency those can literally possibly be are "24.5Hz-24.5Hz-24.5Hz-21.83Hz" and if you played it any lower, it would be literally different notes and therefore it would NOT be Beethoven's Symphony No. 5 anymore. It would possibly not even be recognizable by aliens as TRYING to be that song. And, you'll notice, the four most distinct notes to possibly ever open a song, which anyone anywhere would recognize, can at their LOWEST only be played ABOVE 20Hz. So... NOT infrasound.
Technically, every note on an octave is half the frequency of the equivalent note one octave up. So like, 24.5Hz is G0 and G1 would be 49Hz, G2 would be 98Hz, etc. So, by the logic, you *could* drop further octaves to something below 0, say maybe -4. In which case, G(negative four) would be 1.53125Hz - so saying "drop it to 1Hertz" would still be literal nonsense but would be an acceptable instruction to someone who knew what he actually meant by it. HOWEVER... To try to play MUSIC at that level would be impossible without playing it so slowly as to make it not music anymore - it would basically sound like playing four kick drums in a row, just four thumps and the fourth would not even sound lower like it's supposed to. The difference between playing "Beethoven's Fifth" and playing just literally random notes would be, like, nothing.
The only possible throughline for that would be if we had played those exact notes at that exact frequency into space *in the first place*... and in THAT situation it would have been silly and pointless to play literally any other rendition at first. Even setting aside the pigeon noises thing, if we played Beethoven's Fifth the normal way, there's no reason to think that playing it any other way would get a response motivated by "familiarity". If they initially had played it "in infrasound" or whatever, there would be no reason to start playing it *normally* and then "drop it down to 1Hz" - they'd have just played the literal exact same audio file they broadcast initially. Because again, why would the aliens "RECOGNIZE" different audio? You play the audio they would recognize, not NEW audio, not different pitches, not birds and elephants. And no one would hear or feel it happen either way because the speakers can't play sounds that low and/or they're isolated in the air instead of sitting on the ground like a SUBWOOFER NEEDS TO.
It's just such a complete, across-the-board misunderstanding of both advanced and basic physical and conceptual tenets of sound and human technology. Every aspect and combination of those words, all incorrect, all at once. It's literally ALL wrong and it's crazy that the writers on a *science fiction show* all just went with it, like they assumed that either the audience of a sci-fi show wouldn't care about the science - OR - the audience of a sci-fi show wouldn't know even the most basic amount about *an extremely common hobby* like, I dunno, let's say *music and audio quality*. Anyone who's ever mixed a song or a video would hear that scene and just want to vomit eeeeeverywhere.
So basically Jay is a hero for sitting through that and then continuing.
Great rant, 10/10. As an audio engineer I agree and also wanted to vomit everywhere
Wow, this was really informative. The first part about pigeons was really intuitive and I immediately thought "I can hear pigeons normally." I'm not a musician, or an audiophile, so the rest was new to me. But then again, the second part is really intuitive. If the original broadcast was normal, then either they wouldn't recognize the an altered version of it (because they heard the original version and would recognize that), or would somehow hear the original version in an altered context already (because they magically just interpret regular music as some infrasound nonsense). So, really, the writers failed in unimaginable ways. No matter which way you interpret their meaning, they are wrong. That's a really low bar to hit: being wrong in every possible scenario. It's actually kinda impressive.
I just want to applaud your dedication to pointing out the multiple levels of stupidity in such detail to this one small moment of the show. That was honestly quite impressive. I give you a slow clap at 1 Hz / sec. 😉
Many DAWs are pretty good at pitch shifting while maintaining tempo. Works/sounds better when going down down and I always do it with my practice songs, so I don't have to change tuning.
It's never going to sound perfectly 'clean', but the song would be recognisable, assuming we can perceive such low frequencies.
dawg you were so mad you started writing like Greg Heffely
All they had to do was change "planet" to "interstellar debris field" and it would've at least made SOME sense.
Smerg the Dargon they would have to know what those terms meant
Star Wars Episode 9 tried that with space cancer and they didn't do that properly either
A very dense asteroid field would indeed be dangerous, because even a small particle hits extremely hard at light speed. But most of space is still space.
If you're referring to the oxygen thing, it really wouldn't have if you have an understanding of cryogenics.
@@mitchellbarton7915 dark matter/planet thing
Imagine if, a few minutes into the first episode of the second season, someone yelled "Cut!," all the characters relaxed, and the camera moved out to show that they were on a set. The rest of the season is actually about a group of people making a really bad scifi show. The viewer can actually follow along with the plot of the show within the show, but only by piecing together snippets from the writing room, or the beginnings or ends of shots, or the actors complaining about the stupid plot points. But the real story is in the mishaps and relationships of the people making it.
It already got a second season though, and I just don't think it would fly for the third season. Sigh.
Slings and Arrows in Space!
That is a really nice premise LOL
That's actually a pretty good premise, I would watch it
that would require creativity so I think we are safe from an interesting premise
I would watch that.
29:13... that’s Jupiter. That’s Jupiter. They spent time photoshopping Saturn’s rings onto Jupiter instead of just getting a picture of Saturn...
Jesus christ
They also spent time photoshopping Saturn’s hexagonal polar storm. I mean, at that point really just use goddamn Saturn.
Oh god lmao
To be fair jupiter has rings
@@zamsaraguth yes, but they look nothing like that
have you ever seen a show so bad that your nervous system falls out?
I was about to write a joke where instead of someones nervous system falling out it would be something more stupid falling out. Yet i honestly cant think of something worse than someones nervous system...
@@jonhg92 an appendix maybe? Oh bone marrow but not bones that should do.
This should have been the cold open to the video.
You had me at "surprise moon."
They want to make all these space shows about ragtag rebels and renegades, and half the plot conflicts come from the characters going at each other over simple things...
Remember in old Star Trek and Star Gate when the explorers were a highly trained team of disciplined people who worked together and *gasp* followed orders?
Well said. That a team formed for such an important, crucial mission would be made up of these petty and incompetent people makes absolutely no sense to me.
Ethan Moon if you want to make a story on a ship about a ragtag bunch of misfits, don’t have them tasked with something professional or even important. Just give them some fools errand so there’s a reason they let a bunch of idiots on board like in MTMTE
This whole show really feels like stargate universe, but bad.
If it was them escaping aprison station with an old worn down ship you could excuse a fair amount of the ressource gathering and crew incompetency
A sci-fi show, but every few seconds the writer is a different child.
Blackholecicle that could be a clever idea. A great way to see how little kids minds work
That would be better than this show. That would actually be creative, funny and have some kind of consistency.
We have one of those already. It's on CBS All Access
that would be cute & sweet, seeing how far can children expand their creativity in writing. maybe some kid would write about awesome the future would become, with enthusiastic optimism.
this Netflix original is a fanfic with uninteresting executions without any impactful character development, alongside dead-end plot points & plotholes scattered about.
At least children can make stories that make sense
I kept waking up and falling back asleep while I was listening to the plot hole video(not because it’s bad, it was just very early in the morning when I put it on and I was still in that stage of waking up), and I didn’t realize a new one started playing so now that I’m fully awake I was laying here listening to this for so long trying to relate it to stuff from the plot hole video, waiting for it to cut back to the dude talking about plot contrivances.
this is really funny
That's how I was introduced to yms, after sideways
Congratulations on the transcendental experience
Also, dark matter is literally invisible, and, only way to detect it is to measure gravitational lensing of a massive object, like a galaxy, so their vision actually would be perfect.
Not to mention that dark matter is the reason for matter clustering in certain areas so they would have been traveling through dark matter even before they left Earth.
@@tianamaycry Actually yes. This is so stupid.
THANK YOU.
Well heres the thing buddy. Dark matter is a theory, there is no evidence that it is real. Please, tell me that you know that its a theory and not ever been observed or shown to exist. Please, let me know you are sane. Scientists say it must exist because they cant explain a whole bunch of things so they slap "dark matter" on to that great unknown, please, let me know you are sane. It is a hypothetical explanation, again, never been shown to exist.
And light speed is impossible
*The classic "we will hit a Planet" Plot line. No Story is complete without it*
Blind people have to deal with this every day
It makes no sense, none of this show is scientifically correct, I'm mad. I anger
Douglas Adams has the "falling and just missing the planet" trick. I guess that still fits as a subversion 😏
@@thomassgdf8270 At least you know Douglas Adams doesn't take his science seriously where as this show does the opposite.
No one expects... the lunar inquisition!
(Classic plot on its own)
Breaking news: Oven fire destroys highly advanced spaceship
XD
A gentle reminder to clean your oven.
Imagine somehow ending up on the writing team for this show and somebody says "okay, for this next scene we're gonna do a homage to the Ash/chestburster scene from Alien, but instead of an alien the character's nervous system falls out".
I would laugh, a lot.
@@Ackalan Then cry, knowing that you would need to sign up for unemployment very soon! (This show was SO Bad!!! Lol!)
I’m pretty sure “what if we copied this thing from this other iconic sci-fi story but made it dumb” is how 90% of the conversations in the writers room went
Better than "Let's bring in scientists so we can make sure everything is 100% scientifically accurate, and predictable and boring"...
"we might hit a planet"
Who wrote this script, a 10 year old who's only experience with space is playing Saints Row IV? What..
Well, the mission is supposed to last 6 months, it is a mission to a distant star... But the nearest star to earth is 4.22 light years away, and they pass through more than one solar system... So... What.
I honestly believe Saints Row IV has a better understanding of space than this show.
Why couldn't Ian say "We could run out of supplies if we take too many detours.". You know, give him an actual point?
Because that would be somewhat good writing.
"It's theoretically possible that the dark matter cloud could have anti matter as well. That would react rather violently to our ship."
@@codyopperman5930 We MiGhT hIt A pLaNeT
The thing is this was before their sleep tubes were broken, so the plan would be that they would spend most of the journey in cryo sleep so that excuse wouldn't work either
Jay Exci Oh, right. I guess they could still run out of fuel?
I miss when THIS was the worst show on Netflix
yeah
@@ebgbees Cuties
@@concept5631 What is Cuties? I’ve actually never heard of it.
@@geekgirl_luv4262 Good. Its for the best.
@@concept5631 Ok now I really want to know
I'm so glad you included the "one hertz per second" thing. That was the moment I knew I wouldn't make it to episode 2. It was borderline irrational how pissed off I got when I heard that line. Anyway, I was still slightly curious to know how the story (such as it is) evolved, so I read the summaries on Wikipedia and found your vid. Thanks so much for doing this!!
No, no, it was not irrational, these people are getting paid handsomely to insult us all.
I don't think you were borderline irrational. I can't tell you how mad I get when someone blatantly insults my intelligence, which is basically what those well- compensated idiots who couldn't be bothered to research what they were writing did. Now, me, I am kind of a blob head so they could have said hertz all day and I wouldn't have known. But I would have thought they were at least correct in fundamentals, I should know better. Anyway, fight the good fight. As long as people are mad over things like this, there's hope.
Nope not irrational at all, for me its when people say dogs have backwards knees and I find myself saying frequently that they have the same anatomy we would have if we walked on our tiptoes. That's one thing I get angry about lol
I can't possibly imagine why Netflix is in financial trouble.
Well this and the fact that Disney decided to launch their "yet another netflix clone I have to pay for this month" service...
Go woke, go broke baby. Managed 15-20 minutes of the first episode of this before turning off in disgust.
Their binge- watching shit broke their back too. (Basically netflix holds back episodes to release half the season in one one go so people can "binge watch" the episodes instead of just releasing episode by episode)
Wait what? Almost never (outside of some sitcoms) are seasons produced episode by episode nowadays. It is just cheaper that way. The ones holding episodes back are the ones that give you one episode a week. Also: Most shows that do that i just forget and may stumble across later again to watch it at my pace. episodic releases can just die for all i care.
@@florianh.6256
I think it's more associated with people being able to cancel subscriptions when they can watch all the good stuff within one month and then just wait a year and do it again. Weekly releases of episodes would usually require a subscription going at least 3-4 months, during which a new show could start that you enjoy and thus keep you subscribed after your first shows season has ended.
All the money of production for multiple shows that can be watched in a single month subscription.
You would think that an AI that controls the ship would be monitoring everything in every room simultaneously, thus any event i.e. the captain being attacked would be seen and other crew members warned instantly. Also uniforms might seem like a trope but they make sense, any space suit/emergency gear would work best without everyone's casual Friday attire.
The clothing was literally the first thing I noticed. This is apparently a life altering mission with only the best of the best and infinite funding and they’re not wearing uniforms? Or even anything that physical work can be done in? It’s not even like they’re wearing leggings or sweatpants like they’re wearing normal ugly clothes
@@Shibboleth_0 Or design a spaceship interior, that doesn't have protrusions that sleeves and belts will get caught in.
Yea of course they explain this when we discover that William is a defective AI & the one that was actually suppose to be running this trip has been deactivated by William during its download into the ship
So, how is the outreach project going? How did the humans react to the probe?
They, er, played it pigeon sounds, sir.
Pigeon sounds?
Pigeon sounds.
Okay... So ... we'll give them another 100 years and then try again?
I recommend 200, sir.
Sanna 300k
How about 40k
500k at least
It took me forever to figure out why I recognized the husband, Eric. He played Goku in that terrible live action Dragonball Evolution movie from like 2008. Explains a lot about the production of this show that one of the main characters is played by somebody who’s career was basically ruined. I’m gonna guess that he works for relatively cheap. He’s a perfectly adequate actor, unfortunately that’s how show business works
Now I am replaying that movie in my head with the occasional "cue pigeon sounds" and it's actually better.
This is a dystopian timeline where the leading scientist of Earth is Son Goku. Playing pigeon noises is the type of idea Goku would have.
he was also in the us version of the tv show shameless, which i have to say is far better than either of these two pieces of media and he does pretty well in.
Evolution's great. Stop looking at the world through weeb glasses.
@Danny Dimes.
Weak attempt at trolling.
The lighting on the ship is really bad, like that sickly orange hue to everything is just awful on the eyes
Still the best part of the show
The characters in this show were poorly written. We're supposed to believe that these highly trained, specially selected individuals are all juvenile babies with no emotion control? As opposed to the real-life Apollo 13, where the crew were facing death but acted as a team. I'm sorry, but I can't buy that if these people are supposed the only hope for the Earth they wouldn't get a few psych evals to check how they react to stress or with each other.
Tbh in season 2 when they wake up
this guy from SOMA he’s all confused as to who team 1 is. He even mentions to Niko why did they give you this team of under qualified people.
They are geniuses but are also incredibly dumb, highly trained and experienced but still babies, specially selected but have the emotional volatility of a preteen on drugs probably, the best in the world but aren't paid enough to pay their own bills? Absolutely nothing makes sense with those people
You forgot to mention the fact that all future plot points and motivations for Eric revolve around the daughter having cancer or whatever, when WHY WAS SHE THERE IN THE FIRST PLACE! WHY WAS A CHILD ALLOWED TO ENTER A SCIENTIFIC MILITARY INSTALLATION AND APPROACH THE ALIEN ARTIFACT THEY'RE STUDYING AAAAAAA!
The whole show is pure bullshit situations and bullshit decisions 😂
It was bring your daughter to work day
They having the knowledge to fly into space to far away planets, but not finding the cure for cancer 💀
@@PanThePan it's because even sangoku can't beat cancer
Not to mention after this clearly now alien-possessed woman kills a room full of people, he somehow thinks it is a good idea to help it because surely it will be true to its word!
“This is like someone being shot in the head with a bazooka and then going like, oh no I’ve lost my sense of smell” perhaps one of my favorite sentences to ever be spoken, thank you
15:58 Ok, so, let me get this straight. They point out that the Oxygen is in the Atmosphere, in a gaseous state, how are there Oxygen Crystals? Why not get Oxygen from the Atmosphere? Doesn't it have 10% Oxygen in the atmosphere? Can't you just, filter out the rest of the gas? Excuse me?
Also, how is that atmosphere only comprised of three elements, with absolutely no trace amounts of anything?
I didn't realise using the human colour spectrum to decode an alien message was the most logical method, considering we don't even know how the aliens view different colours and the light spectrum.
TheRadBread yeah they might even view light in a different spectrum than we do, if they even can see, as I don’t seeing is really the only way an organism could manipulate its environment and achieve sentience, maybe they use echolocation or smell to navigate and “see”.
@@Dell-ol6hb for all we know the closest concept they have to color isn't different wavelengths of light, but polarities.
@Anthony Ross In CE3K humans had at least had some form of primer over time .
@Saraneth But they don't have our way of codifying the color spectrum. The RGB system is a human invention.
@Saraneth iirc the rods and cones in human eyes are "better" at seeing certain visible wavelengths than others, I think the ones corresponding to green? Anyway, it's unclear that alien eyes would work the same as ours imo.
Just hearing about this, my brain cells developed lungs, mouths, and larynxes so they could scream as they committed suicide
Nictasaur stolen joke but brilliantly applied
F
More scientifically accurate than this show
AceArion the entire nervous system just *slips out*
@@Lumi8182 Casually. As it does
"we can't see through this dark matter, and we're scared we could hit a planet in there" is like saying "i've got no clue what's in my garden, the window is in the way, and there could be a thunder storm which could strike me with lightning"
Wait. I know the purpose of the dinner scene in episode three now. It was so they could do a painful and unearned Alien homage.
1. Person gets infected with alien thingy and is out of commission for a while
2. alien thingy seemingly goes away and the person appears to be fine
3. They have a meal with that person who at the meal has a thing burst out of them which kills them
yea it was a painfully obvious reference that wasn’t even remotely original and creative. It was basically the same scene, just devoid of logic.
how the fuck could that nervous system still crawl around. it doesnt have anything but a nervous system. no muscles, no bones, no nothing except that. wtf
@@cressent6496 It's an ALIEN thingy, that means it's magic!
@@jassijoanna3466 its the same with all the storylines, they just stole them from star trek and took all logic out
Why would they go onto to planet with alien lifeform without a helmet even though a few episodes ago they all got sick. Also what idiot brings back a flower that could have alien germs and iscects back onto the ship.
Ah, come on. It's not like they were literally dealing with a life threatening alien virus mere episodes ago or anything.
Don’t think about the show, you’ll lose too many brain cells
Just think of it as "Prometheus Syndrome"
Sheepless whats that?
My big thing is why did they think Hallucinating was a GOOD sign, especially to outright eat it? That means whatever toxin it is, it is affecting your nervous system... It could literally be a nerve agent.
"I wouldn't trust these people to build an Ikea cabinet without stabbing each other".
Random crew member: so we build the cabinet... but we still have spare (body) parts...?
Captain blondy: get the ducktape...
34:32 so they can see individual trees from four light years away but not a large moon in low orbit?
They really said the oxygen was in the atmosphere and then mined for it.
well, don't you know? that's how they do it in real life, since this show is 1000000% realistic /j
Hbomberguy makes giant, funny, constructive Essays
and so does Madvocate. Just so you know.
Dont you know that as long as a WahMan comes up with the plan, it has to be a good one? Wahman arent wrong in hollywood and they are the strongest smartest sharpest tool in the universe!
@@jonathansoko1085 I genuinly wanna hear the opinion of Random People on the internet, an opinion
on "Some More News" newest videos.
He does such great Research and calls out the Flaws of Goverment and History so well, i really
want more Peoples opinions,
so excuse the Randomness of me asking-around.
It's possible that oxygen being in the atmosphere indicates the presence of oxide minerals, and that those are a quicker way to obtain sufficient oxygen for a spaceship than just harvesting the gas, I'm not saying that's what the show intended but it could make sense.
How can you have sex with a hologram?
The writers are on bath salts again
You've never listened to erotic hypnosis lol
Hard light hologram?
@@comicconcarne bruh
holographic meatloaf again?
@@Insanity_Potato My favorite!
Why does the main actress look like she constantly got out of a shower without drying her hair?
and she is always smiling...even if she is stern or angry!
She looks like she's grunting out one particularly painful turd in every scene. Obviously the script.
It's like she let her hair air-dry, and left the conditioner in. This is coming from someone who has done that.
It's a side effect of either the cloning process they used to replace her after she died of brain hemorrhaging after completing a scene, or the lobotomy they performed to convince her this was a good idea...
@BLAIR M Schirmer "Katee Sackhoff isn't even 40, and she looks thoroughly reconstituted," LOL! What an excellent way of phrasing it.
You know what would have been a better idea?
If the crew actually dwindles across the episodes and they have to wake up new crew from an ever smaller reserve, providing a soft time limit for the mission.
And a light at the end of the tunnel for the arc. Please, just let it end ...
This literally happens in the show
Ignoring that hitting a planet in space is highly unlikely, couldn't the "gotta get home fast" dude have a better argument of: "We do not have enough resources to go that slow." Like say the mission takes three months, they prepared for six months (because that's what space missions tend to.) But it'll take them a year to get back to Earth at this pace. Thus they would die anyway but more slowly and it was be inevitable. Making the better choice of taking the chance of dying instantly but also having a better possibility of living.
Taylor Ramirez Well, if they had to slow down, that costs fuel, and then they would have to accelerate again, which obviously takes fuel too.
And there it is.... the slow descending weight of the knowledge..... that those writers are getting paid for this..... and we are not....
@@videorowtv5198
"Slingshot maneuvers", also known as gravity assists, mostly exist to change the direction of travel at little to no fuel cost. How a slingshot maneuver is supposed to cut travel time around a cloud of dark matter is beyond me.
For that matter, dark matter is called dark matter not because it's dark and scary, but because we know so little about it. It is "dark" to our knowledge. What we _do_ know about it is that it doesn't interact much with normal matter, nor with any wavelengths of electromagnetic radiation (which is basically light). The only way we even know it's there at all, is because it has mass, and therefore gravity. In other words, _it's invisible and intangible and could not possibly obscure your view of nearby stars and planets._ So _there is no reason they should even want to go around it, nor even know it's there._
@theuncalledfor
1) Everyone knows that the dark matter part is absolute bs
2) I don't know the exact physics behind acceleration of gravity assist / "slingshot maneuver". But Voyager 1 probe used it around Jupiter to escape our solar system.
This entire video is demonstrating a consistent lack of knowledge and logic on the writers' part... you're going to point to a single example and be like "this could fix things"?
"This is the conflict of the first episode. Guy wants to get home faster so he wants to risk killing everyone."
This is literally an argument my dad and mom always have when he's driving us home. I am not even kidding :D
I hate how the distances don’t make any sense whatsoever. The star they use in the first episode, Sirius A, is 8.6 light years away. This means that the ship can cross that much in a month, translating to one light year every 3.5 days. This means that the planet they’re going to is only 25 light years away. This is ridiculously close. There is no dark matter nor any black holes in this tiny corner of space. This is so close that we’d have likely have already discovered the planets from earth. And a distance of 25 light years isn’t exactly across the galaxy. They could have avoided this by not using Sirius as the star they slingshotted around.
> There is no dark matter nor any black holes in this tiny corner of space.
According to our current understanding dark matter is encompassing the visible matter in one gigantic web like structure (called the "cosmic web"), connecting all the star systems. So assuming this is accurate its basically everywhere around us, the solar system, everywhere except in the voids.
@@haraldhimmel5687 Whoops you’re right. But still, no giants clumps nearby.
And unlike the show seems to think dark matter isn't literally dark
There is most likely dark matter going through every person on earth at this very moment in smaller amounts, but a dark matter cloud containing hidden planets within 25 ligh years? not happening.
@@booombasa Actually, many models of dark matter suggest it could be not *that* plentiful, depending on how heavy the particles are (assuming they're even particles, which is only a likely assumption).
The idea that they're black hole singularities, for example, there'd be about 1 per city-sized area, according to PBS SpaceTime.
You know it's a particularly aggravating show when you have trouble listening to one of your favorite UA-camrs tear it apart
I hope season 2 does come out, and it's just ten episodes of pigeon noises.
EDIT: Turns out this show really is being renewed for a second season.
...Shit.
Lets be honest, that'd be better than what this is.
Nah the Earth story will be about the sinister machinations of the Cylons - er, the people with the brain implants - and Baltar... er, Nico's husband, working to further infiltrate the Earth. There will be cults worshipping the artifact and volunteering to be implanted, etc.Meanwhile the space mission has kind of gotten into its groove (clearly identified the aliens as hostile and resolved to blow 'em up) so they'll be battling across the stars with fewer filler plots now that the main plot is finally unveiled, but Baltar and the Secret Cylons will continue to impede their efforts to convey their findings to Earth for a while.
Finally, something I can watch and then talk about with the crows at work the next morning. It's so hard to find common ground with them, you know.
Most of these characters are stupid I like the plot but those characters are so I’d like to kill em myself
I’m just annoyed with the fact that they sort out their “feelings” WHILE DOING DANGEROUS FREAKIN PROCEDURES!! SORT OUT YOUR FEELINGS LATER MOW IS NOT THE TIME!!!
Apollo 13 crew: ground control, the entire ship is completely fucked. We're going to use duct time and a prayer to fix it.
TV writers: if a single cable on the ship is cut, everything breaks and is impossible to repair
Apollo 13 wasn’t that bad irl
@@MaticTheProto Yes, we know.
if i got to do a rewrite, id have the gamma radiation from a few eps back burn out some stuff.. make them fix a fuck up the created fixing things with stupid
@@MaticTheProto Apollo 13 very nearly didn't make it back after having many, many things go wrong, so your "wasn't that bad irl" is spectacularly silly.
@@BasketOfPuppies nah. They had all procedures in place, unlike what the movie shows
How to make a bad sci-fi movie 101:
1. Send a group of people on a humanity-saving mission.
2. Make them them the most inept and unqualified people in the galaxy.
3. Profitssss....
reminds me of prometheus.
@@bloodondope and Alien: Covenant
GOD DAMN GENUS
You forgot a flawed ship.
If you really want to make a space show with an inept crew make it a prsion ship and then flush the guards out the airlock or something.